Serbian autosomal DNA #2

**Dušan** · 10-15-2025, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Varda

Banija and Kordun it seems. I have seen few results of Kordun Serbs with high NA for Serbian standard.

P. Demić have no any non-Serbian ancestor among great-grandparents (8 ancestors from both sides), but maybe he has some earlier Croatian kaykavian ancestry. Kaykavians exist in Glina area. Or maybe Celto-Germanic element is older among Banija/Kordun Serbs, from the period before their ancestors settled to Banija and Kordun several centuries ago.

Banija and Kordun were empty due Ottoman wars when Serbs settled there.

This Kordun Serb has low North Atlantic, almost on mine level.

SerbKarlovac,23.07,33.52,19.41,2.23,17.89,0.77,1,0 .74,0.79,0.57,0,0,0

I saved it only in this form, cant remember the gedmetch kit.

**Varda** · 10-15-2025, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dušan

Banija and Kordun were empty due Ottoman wars when Serbs settled there.

This Kordun Serb has low North Atlantic, almost on mine level.

SerbKarlovac,23.07,33.52,19.41,2.23,17.89,0.77,1,0 .74,0.79,0.57,0,0,0

I saved it only in this form, cant remember the gedmetch kit.

That guy Is from Karlovac i think. By both Baltic and NA score he is close to you.

**majevica** · 10-15-2025, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Varda

Banija and Kordun it seems. I have seen few results of Kordun Serbs with high NA for Serbian standard.

P. Demić have no any non-Serbian ancestor among great-grandparents (8 ancestors from both sides), but maybe he has some earlier Croatian kaykavian ancestry. Kaykavians exist in Glina area. Or maybe Celto-Germanic element is older among Banija/Kordun Serbs, from the period before their ancestors settled to Banija and Kordun several centuries ago.

I'd say it's North Illyrian rather than Celto-Germanic element since he also scores high West_Med

1.459 Glina = 84% Bosniak_Northeast + 16% Spanish_Aragon
1.659 Glina = 81% Bosniak_Northeast + 19% Spanish_Catalonia
1.994 Glina = 50% Italian_Veneto + 50% Russian_Ryazan

North Illyrians were close to North Italians/Iberians

**Usernotfound** · 10-15-2025, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Varda

That guy Is from Karlovac i think. By both Baltic and NA score he is close to you.

Did you ever tested? It would be interesting to see your results.

**Varda** · 10-15-2025, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Usernotfound

Did you ever tested? It would be interesting to see your results.

When i get tested you will be notified.

I have to see about the procedure...

**Dušan** · 10-15-2025, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by majevica

I'd say it's North Illyrian rather than Celto-Germanic element since he also scores high West_Med

1.459 Glina = 84% Bosniak_Northeast + 16% Spanish_Aragon
1.659 Glina = 81% Bosniak_Northeast + 19% Spanish_Catalonia
1.994 Glina = 50% Italian_Veneto + 50% Russian_Ryazan

North Illyrians were close to North Italians/Iberians

Compare his result with Banija-Kordun average.

2.020 P.Demić = 53% Serb_CentralCroatia + 47% Austrian_Styria
2.312 P.Demić = 100% Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium + 0% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.338 P.Demić = 64% Hungarian_Slovakia_West + 36% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.393 P.Demić = 60% Serb_CentralCroatia + 40% German_County_Glatz
2.447 P.Demić = 59% Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West + 41% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.463 P.Demić = 62% Hungarian_Transdanubia_South + 38% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.479 P.Demić = 66% Hungarian_Central+Budapest + 34% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.508 P.Demić = 75% Serb_CentralCroatia + 25% German_Brandenburg_Northwest
2.564 P.Demić = 60% Croat_GorskiKotar + 40% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.629 P.Demić = 77% Serb_CentralCroatia + 23% German_Hither_Pomerania
2.631 P.Demić = 68% Serb_CentralCroatia + 32% German_Saxony
2.642 P.Demić = 81% Serb_CentralCroatia + 19% Swedish_East-Svealand
2.647 P.Demić = 52% Serb_CentralCroatia + 48% Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
2.751 P.Demić = 81% Serb_CentralCroatia + 19% Swedish_Norrland
2.754 P.Demić = 68% Serb_CentralCroatia + 32% German_North_Bohemia
2.789 P.Demić = 68% Serb_CentralCroatia + 32% German_Thuringia_East
2.809 P.Demić = 82% Serb_CentralCroatia + 18% Swedish_West-Svealand
2.828 P.Demić = 79% Serb_CentralCroatia + 21% German_Mecklenburg_West
2.870 P.Demić = 88% Csángó-Ceangău + 12% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.873 P.Demić = 51% Serb_CentralCroatia + 49% Slovene

**Varda** · 10-16-2025, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dušan

Banija and Kordun were empty due Ottoman wars when Serbs settled there.

This Kordun Serb has low North Atlantic, almost on mine level.

SerbKarlovac,23.07,33.52,19.41,2.23,17.89,0.77,1,0 .74,0.79,0.57,0,0,0

I saved it only in this form, cant remember the gedmetch kit.

In 18th century kaykavians from NW Croatia and Gorski Kotar setlled around Glina, Petrinja and Kostajnica. In the same period in southern part of Banija around Dvor settled some Bunjevci from Lika. Kaykavians returned in 18th century in the parts of Banija after over 200 years, since Banija before Ottomans was kaykavian.

Map of kaykavian about 100 years ago, as you can see parts of Banija are kaykavian zones. Serbs were majority in Banija until 1990s, but among Croatian minority most mumerous were kaykavians.