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    Default Cypriots are Middle easterner?

    Is common to find Cypriots in U.K, I've always considered them as White like Greek, Spanish, Italian type..... but it seems they are more related with the Syrian Arabs, nothing wrong with it just surprised that their European admixture is so small like 13%.


    Auteur(s) / Author(s) BAYSAL E. (1) ; INDRAK K. ; BOZKURT G. ; BERKALP A. ; ARITKAN E. ; OLD J. M.
    ; IOANNOU P. ; ANGASTINIOTIS M. ; DROUSHIOTOU A. ; YÜREGIR G. T. ; HUISMAN T. H. J. ;
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    We have identified the β-thalassaemia alleles in nearly all known Turkish
    Cypriot β-thalassaemia homozygotes and in over 700 Greek Cypriot β-
    thalassaemia heterozygotes living on the island of Cyprus. The data
    confirmed earlier observations that the IVS-I-100 (G→A) mutation is present
    for about 74–80%, while three other alleles [IVS-II-745 (C→G), IVS-I-6 (T→
    C), IVS-I-1 (G→A)] occur at frequencies of 5–8%. Nearly identical
    percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from
    those for β-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests
    close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries
    without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish β-thalassaemia
    carriers.

    Revue / Journal Title British journal of haematology ISSN 0007-1048 CODEN BJHEAL Source / Source 1992, vol. 81, no4, pp. 607-609 (1/4 p.)

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1390250

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    However, this can be problematic for some Cypriots considering the division
    of the island and political problems enshrouding it. Which community do we
    look to, “in Cyprus there are only ever Greeks or Turks” right? So do we
    mean Greek or Turkish Cypriots? Not so, one Medical Doctor and Researcher
    Dr. Geoffrey Dean claims: “there is little genetic difference between Greek
    and Turkish Cypriots.” Historically, he argues that Ottoman soldiers who
    took up residence in Cyprus after the Conquest of 1571 were known to take up to four Greek Christian wives and that intermarriage was more common than people think. Pointing to another blood disease, Dr Dean argues that the fact that the Thalessemia gene is prevalent in 16% of all ‘Greek’ and
    ‘Turkish’ Cypriots is evidence that their blood group is very similar and
    quite different to Greeks and Turks. In fact, Dr Dean says: “They are
    Cypriots not Greeks or Turks.”

    contrast Syrian genetic make-up
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/90/imagenbgl6.png/
    with Cypriot and see how similar they are.

    Y-Dna haplogroups are found at the following frequencies in Cyprus : J (43.07% including 6.20% J1), E1b1b (20.00%), R1 (12.30% including 9.2% R1b), F (9.20%), I (7.70%), K (4.60%), A (3.10%).[117] J, K, F and E1b1b

    They are do not cluster with Greeks or any other Europeans on the genetic map.


    Their closest relatives are Syrians, Druze, Jews and Lebanese.

    Recent genetic clustering analyses of ethnic groups are consistent with the close ancestral relationship between the Druze and Cypriots, and also identified similarity to the general Syrian and Lebanese populations, as well as a variety of Jewish lineages (Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Iraqi, and Moroccan) (Behar et al 2010).[52]

    http://www.technologyreview.com/news...map-of-europe/

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    Most of them are Arabo-Euro mutts.

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    Yes, it's true. Cypriots are technically Levantine.
    Spoiler!

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    Historically, he argues that Ottoman soldiers who took up residence in Cyprus after the Conquest of 1571 were known to take up to four Greek Christian wives
    Nonsense.

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    I have seen both Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots and I have noticed that The Turkish Cypriots look more European then the Greeks.

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    and now Haplogroups count because it's not Malta ,

    oh the hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    Most of them are Arabo-Euro mutts.
    Levantine is Levantine and Arab is Arab, just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malta1066Falzon View Post
    and now Haplogroups count because it's not Malta ,
    Haplogroups are a very small part of DNA. Autosomal Dna is what really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    Haplogroups are a very small part of DNA. Autosomal Dna is what really matters.
    Don't you worry. I found autosomal proof, too. Just don't be a lazy levantine and Czech it out on my blog.

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    ^ Yeah 5 STRs... I guess it makes sense that Germans are closer to Spaniards than to Slovenians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    ^ Yeah 5 STRs... I guess it makes sense that Germans are closer to Spaniards than to Slovenians.
    Hahah, you're an asshole. Are you accusing me that we're cherrypicking people? It's time for you to give me proof that South Italians are more European than us, and don't come with me with this Campanian bullshit. S.Italians are in fact more Levantine than us. Stop trying to take away (due to your strong inferiority complex) what is rightfully ours, which is our European identity.

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