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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    What if immigrants will rely on government assistance more than native spaniards? What then? That would make the whole immigration pointless. How do you make sure that doesn't happen?
    The same as if more than half of the native Spaniards live on social assistance, something like venezuela.
    Immigration is the easy way out (and in my opinion much more negative) for problems, the difficult thing would be to face the problem and change the pension system. But no government dares to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    The solution isn't more immigrants.
    The solution is more babies.
    More babies is impossible to achieve, we are at a decline stage of Western civilization:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...a-dziedziczona - about epigenetic inheritance

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB8...Pn2NAEA/videos - Biohistory theory



    The only solution is more immigrants, we need to Transform. Tips for a Better Europe:



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    Edit:
    Unless you follow the example of Rachel Krishevski:

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...778275,00.html

    Super Mama's story for Mother's Day:

    "Woman dies at 99, leaves behind 1400 descendents

    One of Jerusalemite Rachel Krishevsky's grandchildren says with pride, 'Grandma knew all of her descendents'
    The commandment to "be fruitful and multiply" the Krishevsky family follows quite closely. Last Saturday, the great grandmother, Rachel Krishevsky passed away at the age of 99, leaving behind no less than 1,400 children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and even great-great-grandchildren.

    Krishevsky got married to her cousin, Yitzhak, just before turning 19. The couple brought seven sons and four daughters into the world. In accordance with haredi custom, Krishevsky brought up her children to see children as a great joy. Her children subsequently adopted her outlook and produced 150 children of their own.

    These 150 children continued the commitment to be fruitful and multiply and themselves had no less than 1000 children. From here, the lineage continued even further, and Rachel Krishevsky was blessed with a few hundred great-great-grandchildren.


    Rachel Krishevsky died on Saturday surrounded by loving descendents.

    Due to their great numbers, the family is not quite clear on precisely how many descendents there are. "The estimate in the family is that we are about 1,400 people since almost all of those from the family line were blessed with many children," said one of the grandchildren Wednesday.

    Though she lived a full and long life, the family is saddened by Rachel's passing. Krishevsky lived nearly her whole live next to Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda open-air market.

    "Grandma was a God-fearing woman her whole life, and her door was always open to the homeless and poor near the market who were looking for a place to eat," added the grandchild.

    "She knew the entire book of Psalms by heart, and participated in all the family events, happy and sad, up until two years ago. She knew all of her descendents. We are sad about her death, but proud of what she achieved in her life and her righteousness and compassion."

    Though Krishevsky certainly produced many offspring, she did was not a record-breaker. In the haredi sector, there are two well-known cases of living people having great-great-great-grandchildren. One such case is in a Hassidic family living in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Mea Shearim. Another such family is that of Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, the leader of the Lithuanian branch of haredi Judaism. A few months ago, his great-great-grandson had his first child."



    Shekels, babies, tradition. Not such a bad recipe for life.
    Last edited by Peterski; 05-26-2021 at 12:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domingo de Soto View Post
    The same as if more than half of the native Spaniards live on social assistance, something like venezuela.
    Immigration is the easy way out (and in my opinion much more negative) for problems, the difficult thing would be to face the problem and change the pension system. But no government dares to do that.
    Privatizing it is the solution, same I want for Germany.
    The current system cant be saved, even if we suddenly and unrealistically hit a 2.0 birthrate that cant neglect at least 3 low birthrate generations. Everyone below 40 should have the option of not contributing to the state pension funds anymore and instead find privatized solutions. First it will be a huge investment gab but still cheaper than what immigration costs us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    More babies is impossible to achieve, we are at a decline stage of Western civilization:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...a-dziedziczona - about epigenetic inheritance

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB8...Pn2NAEA/videos - Biohistory theory



    The only solution is more immigrants, we need to Transform. Tips for a Better Europe:

    ^^^
    Without mass immigration, this happens - complete extinction:



    Only the influx of "fresh blood" can prevent total extinction.

    Thanks to such influx, Europeans will survive as a "mixed-race" population.

    Without immigration, there will be neither mixed nor full-blood Europeans.

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    Fuck off Peterski. One of TA most annoying and sneakiest members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    You already have incredible unemployment numbers, its not like you economy lacks workforce, the workforce lacks a growing economy.

    So you invite immigrants who are ususlly 2/3 young adult men, that will have no jobs, face a gender disbalance, are barrelly qualified and educated?

    Thats good stuff for French and German like ethnic tensions and battles.

    At the end the liberals try to fix the issues they caused with more liberal ideas, the only way to fix this is the abolishment of the liberal democracy.
    The Spanish economy grew before the covid, but unemployment is something structural in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Fuck off Peterski. One of TA most annoying and sneakiest members.
    I was thinking about this a lot and I came to this conclusion, being an ENTP-Assertive type of thinker:

    https://www.16personalities.com/entp-personality

    All you can say is "fuck off" because you have no constructive counter-arguments to prove me wrong.

    You don't know how to prove me wrong because you actually know I'm right.

    It is impossible to rise fertility rates above 2.0 in this degenerate continent.

    Only after the next "Dark Ages" fertility will increase again, but this will be already another civilization.

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    OK let's start a poll, how many of TA self-declared "white nationalists" have 2 or more white babies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^
    Without mass immigration, this happens - complete extinction:



    Only the influx of "fresh blood" can prevent total extinction.

    Thanks to such influx, Europeans will survive as a "mixed-race" population.

    Without immigration, there will be neither mixed nor full-blood Europeans.
    No, There are like 500 million Europeans so they wouldn't go extinct for a very, very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domingo de Soto View Post
    The Spanish economy grew before the covid, but unemployment is something structural in this country.
    This can be a cause of improving profits of existing industries and doesnt have to necceserarly reflect in creation of new jobs.

    Open borders in combination with welfare obviously fails, has failed and will continue to fail.
    The price you pay if shit hits the fan can never be fixed.
    wake up, if all you concerned about is economic success isolated from preserving the ethno-cultural identity of your people, then move to Germany or any other soulless economic successfull shithole.

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