What type of Nationalist are you?

[Zephyr]

Futile crap, you said it.

Don't play smart ass, I called futile crap to flag waving. And that's what it is.

[Aptrgangr]

Just like Germans usually do, you talk big at first but then you lose and stick your tails between your legs and run. Is this all you have? You attempted to insult my nation, post inane pictures, make false claims and shove your ideas about what I should think and believe down my throat, and when I confronted you on this you collapsed like a house of cards.

And yes, I will feel proud of my nation and people. Unlike you Germans, we still have a sense of pride and some backbone left. We still have the right to mention WWII without getting jailed, and we don't have groups advocating Turkish enclaves our land.

Your lies do not help you here, I clearly abstained from any insults, I do not lower myself to, like your standards or those of other basement dwellers/skinheads with a keyboard, but posted signs of a worsening situation with a reminder to turn the tide. If you were a nationalist, you would have understood that - but instead of that you continued your low-level trolling. Each time you made it very easy for me to debunk you as the hypocrite you are, no word of criticizm ever came over your lips about the oh so sovereign Norway bombing civilians in Libya, but at least you have your flag to wave. A small mind is satisfied with small things...

France it's the enlightenments, republicanism, human rights and the red cross (French Swiss). When it comes to low standards Germany plays in a league of its own.

In other words, nazi barbarism under the cloak of democracy, very original, the slain men, drowned children, raped woman, maimed elderly, bombed civilians and aborted fetuses clearly appreciate the difference, at least they have not been killed by an evil German.

[Gaztelu]

And an afroamerican identifying as US American is bad for white ethnic preservation? I'd rather have a French of algerian descent being loyal to the state rather than one who identifies with the ummah, riots and burns cars in the banlieu.

Civic nationalism is about giving your loyalty to the state, ethnic preservation is up to the people individually not a political stance, both things are independant from each other. Because civic nationalism isn't ethnically oriented doesn't mean that it seeks to destroy ethnicities and cultures.

The problem I see with civic nationalism is something you mentioned: loyalty is towards the state and only towards the state. If a European civic nationalist is to accept an African, Asian, or what not as a fellow countryman because they have a passport, it would be and indirect insult to his real ethnic countrymen because it undermines the ethnic foundations that said European state was built on.

States such as France, Germany, Russia, Spain, and the United Kingdom of GB were not built by Africans, Asians, nor aboriginal New Worlders.

[The Omen]

None of those really fit me because I don't identify as a nationalist. To be honest, one reason I don't is because nationalist politics is often a bad joke. I am all for cutting back immigration, a homogeneous ethnic population, and becoming more economically autarkic (even if it slows down our economic growth) though. I just don't think the nation should be at the forefront of people's lives, it should be in the background, I find state-worshipping fascist-types tasteless.

[Agrippa]

Ethno-Nationalist with clear Pan-European tendencies.
"Civic Nationalism" = Patriotism = uninteresting, uncritical, makes no sense.

I would never fight for a country, but only a people, values and ideals, a better society. If the state stands for that, I fight for this state, if not...

[Lisa]

I support the Russian Imperial society, but with limited for interethnic marriage.

[hajduk]

I support the Russian Imperial society, but with limited for interethnic marriage.

So you want to enslave again nations that have nothing to do with Russia, but not to intermarry with Russans? What about making them slaves, its dumb

[Raskolnikov]

"Civic Nationalism" = Patriotism = uninteresting, uncritical, makes no sense.

That Civic Nationalism is but patriotism is the love for one's own blood and soil which is abused by politicians and ideologues, not blind allegiance to a nation-state or, actually, any particular political idea.

[Laubach]

My vision is of cooperation between all European ethnic groups. I would love that would end the historic rivalries and all turn their attention to preserving their cultures and backgrounds, which is the common goal.

And I have a strong patriotic connection with France, Italy and Austria and can not get the same for Germany, which also have origin.

Lately I've been increasingly disappointed with the way Germany and the Germans act. To tell the truth, not only today

[Lisa]

So you want to enslave again nations that have nothing to do with Russia, but not to intermarry with Russans? What about making them slaves, its dumb

Bulgaria does not come within the scope of the interests of Russia.