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    Quote Originally Posted by 746384374837483 View Post
    Slovakia's place in that coordinate system seems like a mistake or at least an interesting case to me...

    Nonetheless if that coordinate system is good it seems to me that distances between:
    HU and Germanic countries(NL,SE,DE,...)
    HU and Slavic countries(PL,RU,UA,...)
    HU and FI
    are the same.

    Biggest distances:
    HU-CY
    HU-PT+ES
    HU-TR

    Btw is this data depends on ethnicity or nationality?
    (There are Hungarians in the neighbouring countries)
    I think, they have one sample when doing that map, and it was obviously mixed. Considering Slavs, you are relatively close to all Slavic peoples (genneticaly speaking, neigbiurghing being closeset)

    Data are on basis of place of origin. But, altough there is no siezable population of Hungarians in Czech Republic which is closest, nor in Bosnia which is pretty close as well.
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    In Karelia? Japs won that one too. The Japanese were impressed with massed artilery, but soviets lacked the tactics and lost it.
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    I see, explain to me why is Anatolia who was ruled by Ottomans for longer in better shape than Turkey
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    Serbia was a vasal state of the Ottomans ever since the Battle of Maritsa. It even participated in attack on Bosnia
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    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    Because slavs are their neighbors and like all the other people on earth, Hungarians looks similar with their neighbors too. They are not unique on this issue.

    Also Slovenians, Austrians, Slovaks, Romanians, some Serbians looks like Hungarians, as much as Hungarians looks like them.

    This is not an argument but it`s an ordinary phenomenon which can be seen anywhere on earth. If you think this is a valid argument, then you better explain to me why you look similar with Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians and Greeks.
    Well that's the point people.. it shows that their genes are not Turanic but Slavic, Germanic etc. like the other nations around them. You have to be really blind to not see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Hungarians call themselves Mogyers.
    Yes, but it is rather Magyar (pl. Magyarok) with "a".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak_Hĺkan View Post
    Nothing new for me my friend But relevance here? Don't forget "Hun" is a multiethnic term.
    We never call ownselvez as "Hun" or "Hungarians". This word came from the Bulgar-Turkish On Ogur (Ten Arrow, Ten Tribes). It has been started to use by the western authors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Hungarians are not Turks. They do not speak Turkic language, they do not look like Turks, they gennetically cluster with Slavs (acctually right in middle of us )...
    And they have nothing to do with Odin
    Some often used word of our language came from the Bulgar-Turkish dialects. F.e. Gyűrű (Ring), Tenger (Sea), Sárga (Yellow). Physically we may look like as the Slavs and we have more Slavic word than Turkish. One part of scientist of us forced the Turkish root, one part of them forced the Finno-Ugric root, one part of them forced the relationship of our neighbours. Books and articles of this topic can load whole libraries. It is possible to link source about every trend ad infinitum.

    Our traditional clothes and folks culture seem similar to the Slavs and the Balkanics. Balkanic music and costums look more Asiatic and Eastern for me.

    F.e. a very common Hungarian folk song. I use to croon this.

    [YOUTUBE]YsNY8eQ5-iY[/YOUTUBE]

    Typical traditional folk costum of us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Géza View Post
    Yes, but it is rather Magyar (pl. Magyarok) with "a".



    We never call ownselvez as "Hun" or "Hungarians". This word came from the Bulgar-Turkish On Ogur (Ten Arrow, Ten Tribes). It has been started to use by the western authors.



    Some often used word of our language came from the Bulgar-Turkish dialects. F.e. Gyűrű (Ring), Tenger (Sea), Sárga (Yellow). Physically we may look like as the Slavs and we have more Slavic word than Turkish. One part of scientist of us forced the Turkish root, one part of them forced the Finno-Ugric root, one part of them forced the relationship of our neighbours. Books and articles of this topic can load whole libraries. It is possible to link source about every trend ad infinitum.
    Closest languages to yours are Finnish and Estonian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Géza View Post
    Our traditional clothes and folks culture seem similar to the Slavs and the Balkanics. Balkanic music and costums look more Asiatic and Eastern for me.


    Verry asiatic. Common man. It does not look Asiatic nor Turkic. Balkans Oriental influences are in mentality, loanwords, partialy in music and cusine. Not in folk culture.
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    In Karelia? Japs won that one too. The Japanese were impressed with massed artilery, but soviets lacked the tactics and lost it.
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    I see, explain to me why is Anatolia who was ruled by Ottomans for longer in better shape than Turkey
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    Serbia was a vasal state of the Ottomans ever since the Battle of Maritsa. It even participated in attack on Bosnia
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    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Verry asiatic.
    Indeed

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    There is some Hungar theory about alien origins. I am not joking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žołnir View Post
    There is some Hungar theory about alien origins. I am not joking!
    But they are. Thankfully.

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    No wonder why Turkics try to link Hungaryans with themselves. Inferior people trying to link themselves with the superior, nothing new.
    I just do not understand why some Hungarians degrade themselves with pan Turanian shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    No wonder why Turkics try to link Hungaryans with themselves. Inferior people trying to link themselves with the superior, nothing new.
    I just do not understand why some Hungarians degrade themselves with pan Turanian shit.
    What makes you think we have inferiority? While we have such a great history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcan View Post
    What makes you think we have inferiority? While we have such a great history.
    Hungarians are superior to all Turkics combined.

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