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Thread: The Cyrilic alphabet. Bulgarian or not?

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    Default The Cyrilic alphabet. Bulgarian or not?

    The Cyrillic script was created in the First Bulgarian Empire[9] and is derived from the Greek uncial script letters, augmented by ligatures and consonants from the older Glagolitic alphabet for sounds not found in Greek. Tradition holds that Cyrillic and Glagolitic were formalized either by the two Greek brothers born in Thessaloniki, Saints Cyril and Methodius who brought Christianity to the southern Slavs, or by their disciples.[10][11][12][13] Paul Cubberley posits that while Cyril may have codified and expanded Glagolitic, it was his students in the First Bulgarian Empire that developed Cyrillic from the Greek letters in the 890s as a more suitable script for church books.[9] Later Cyrillic spread among other Slavic peoples: Russians, Serbs and others, as well as among non-Slavic Vlachs and Moldavians.
    Cyrillic and Glagolitic were used for the Church Slavonic language, especially the Old Church Slavonic variant. Hence expressions such as "И is the tenth Cyrillic letter" typically refer to the order of the Church Slavonic alphabet; not every Cyrillic alphabet uses every letter available in the script.

    The Cyrillic script came to dominate Glagolitic in the 12th century. The literature produced in the Old Bulgarian language soon spread north and became the lingua franca of the Balkans and Eastern Europe, where it came to also be known as Old Church Slavonic.
    I would add that the Cyrilic alphabet has influences from the Bulgar runic symbols.

    The Bulgar runic symbols:



    The people who use Cyrilic will notice that letters such as Б, Ж, З, У, Ф, Ш, Ъ come from the Bulgars.


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    Nope, it's Vinčan.

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    Slavic>>>Greek>>>Phoenician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medvjed View Post
    Nope, it's Vinčan.
    Protect yourself with facts.

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    Bulgarians (lets say that way) adapted Greek Maiuscule for use of Old Church Slavonic. Person who do not know OCS or Koine Greek could not ditinguish Slavic and Greek Icons, Frescos or Mosaics.

    Ш is from Glagolitic, as you could see. And verry similar or same forms could be find in Coptic, Aramiac, and Ethiopean alphabets. (ሠ, ש, ϣ).


    Ъ is modification of Glagolitic

    Lol at Ф, have you ever saw Greek alphabet, it is same even today.
    Same with У (wariation of Y) and З (taken directly from medieval Greek Maiusculae)

    Б is just variation of В (two verry similar sounds are used for them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Bulgarians (lets say that way) adapted Greek Maiuscule for use of Old Church Slavonic.
    So you agree that Bulgarians invented it.

    Thanks.

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    Konstantin of Preslav adopted it, and he was Bulgarian. I am allways for hystorical truth.
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    It's a greek alphabet, like the standard greek and the latin (chalkidean) one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkophagos View Post
    It's a greek alphabet, like the standard greek and the latin (chalkidean) one.


    The least you Barbarians can do is to be grateful to your Greek masters.
    We can give you taxes for using it if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkophagos View Post
    It's a greek alphabet, like the standard greek and the latin (chalkidean) one. The least you Barbarians can do is to be grateful to your Greek masters.
    Byzantine writers stoped to call Slavs Barbarians 1000 years ago. Comon, we are best friends evah after all
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