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    Quote Originally Posted by BrudnyZydMalpa View Post
    Poland has been catching up.

    Germans in Poland Looking for Work | People & Politics

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    Riches in the East - German guest workers in Poland | Made in Germany

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    Poland's economic muscle has made its voice louder. Since 2008, its gross domestic product grew by 20 percent. The euro zone economy as a whole shrank over the same period. It is now the sixth biggest European Union economy, matching its place as the sixth most populous EU state.

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    Polish City Offers Lifeline to Struggling German Neighbor.
    Jozef Walukiewicz, his wife Anna and daughter Katarzyna stand inside their renovated house in the village of Rosow, Germany, located near the Polish border, April 7, 2013.

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    GARTZ, GERMANY — Like most people in Szczecin, a port city on the western edge of Poland, businessman Zbigniew Sawicki thought that when his country joined the European Union a decade ago, wealthier German neighbors would pour in and buy up the city.

    But events took an unexpected turn. Large numbers of well-to-do Poles from Szczecin, including many of Sawicki's friends, are moving into Germany and buying properties on such a scale that sleepy Prussian villages are taking on a Polish air.

    “Polish people are buying a lot of houses. Thousands of houses,” said Sawicki, in his metal-working factory near the border. “It is a positive surprise.”

    Polish migrant workers have arrived in huge numbers all over western Europe over the past decade. But what is happening around Szczecin is different. What flows from east to west here is not cheap labor but capital and economic influence.

    Szczecin, which until borders were redrawn at the end of World War II was the German city of Stettin, has become the economic center of gravity for a chunk of eastern Germany now struggling with decline.

    The trend might hold clues about future trends in the continent, showing the potential for Europe's poorer east, with its rapid growth and younger population, to catch up with “old Europe'' with its aging workers and less dynamic growth.

    Last year, Poland's economy slowed dramatically as it felt the effect of the euro zone slowdown, but it still grew by 2 percent. Germany's economy flat-lined with 0.7 percent growth.
    Just look at the statistics, about 1.5 million Poles are living in Germany and around 150.000 Germans are living in Poland (a lot of those the remaining German population who were not expelled).
    So while the examples you mentioned surely exist, they are not the norm and Poland is still lagging behind a good deal.
    Even if Polish economic growth is steadily more than German growth it will take decades to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geminus View Post
    Just look at the statistics, about 1.5 million Poles are living in Germany and around 150.000 Germans are living in Poland (a lot of those the remaining German population who were not expelled).
    So while the examples you mentioned surely exist, they are not the norm and Poland is still lagging behind a good deal.
    Even if Polish economic growth is steadily more than German growth it will take decades to catch up.
    Well of course Germany wasn't all communist & had the Marshall Plan.

    Poland was left with the worst damages & left with economically stagnating communism.

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    Nope. West Poland was originally Germanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Nope. West Poland was originally Germanic.
    So why does West Poland show the same genetics since the iron age!?

    http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2012...f-genetic.html

    First direct evidence of genetic continuity in West and Central Poland from the Iron Age to the present

    I've just been sent a fascinating paper on the mtDNA of Iron Age and Medieval samples from Poland. It's a thesis by a PhD student from Poznan, Anna Juras, which suggests direct genetic continuity between Iron Age samples belonging to the Przeworsk and Wielbark Cultures of what is now West and Central Poland and modern Poles. Here's the English summary of the thesis, and a map of the sites under study:

    For many years the origin of the Slavs has been the subject-matter in archaeology, anthropology, history, linguistics and recently also modern human population genetics. By now there is no unambiguous answer to a question where, when and in what way the Slavs originated. For the purposes of this dissertation, the analysis of ancient human mitochondrial DNA was applied. The ancient DNA was isolated from 72 specimens which came from Iron-Age and medieval graveyards from the area of current Poland. Ancient mtDNA was extracted from two teeth from each individual and reproducible sequence results were obtained for 20 medieval and 23 Iron-Age specimens. On the basis of HVR I mtDNA mutation motifs and coding region SNPs each specimen was assigned to a mitochondrial haplogroup. The obtained results were used together with other ancient and modern populations to analyse shared haplotypes and population genetic distances illustrated by multidimentional scaling plots (MDS). The differences on genetic level and quite high genetic distances (FST) between medieval and Iron-Age populations as well as significant number of shared informative haplotypes with Belarus, Ukraine and Bulgaria may evidence genetic discontinuity between medieval and Iron Ages. From the other side, the highest number of shared informative haplotypes between Iron-Age and extant Polish population as well as the presence of subhaplogroup N1a1a2, can confirm that some genetic lines show continuity at least from Iron Age or even Neolithic in the areas of present day Poland. The results obtained in this work are considered to be the first ancient contribution in genetic history of the Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrudnyZydMalpa View Post
    So why does West Poland show the same genetics since the iron age!?

    http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2012...f-genetic.html

    First direct evidence of genetic continuity in West and Central Poland from the Iron Age to the present

    I've just been sent a fascinating paper on the mtDNA of Iron Age and Medieval samples from Poland. It's a thesis by a PhD student from Poznan, Anna Juras, which suggests direct genetic continuity between Iron Age samples belonging to the Przeworsk and Wielbark Cultures of what is now West and Central Poland and modern Poles. Here's the English summary of the thesis, and a map of the sites under study:

    For many years the origin of the Slavs has been the subject-matter in archaeology, anthropology, history, linguistics and recently also modern human population genetics. By now there is no unambiguous answer to a question where, when and in what way the Slavs originated. For the purposes of this dissertation, the analysis of ancient human mitochondrial DNA was applied. The ancient DNA was isolated from 72 specimens which came from Iron-Age and medieval graveyards from the area of current Poland. Ancient mtDNA was extracted from two teeth from each individual and reproducible sequence results were obtained for 20 medieval and 23 Iron-Age specimens. On the basis of HVR I mtDNA mutation motifs and coding region SNPs each specimen was assigned to a mitochondrial haplogroup. The obtained results were used together with other ancient and modern populations to analyse shared haplotypes and population genetic distances illustrated by multidimentional scaling plots (MDS). The differences on genetic level and quite high genetic distances (FST) between medieval and Iron-Age populations as well as significant number of shared informative haplotypes with Belarus, Ukraine and Bulgaria may evidence genetic discontinuity between medieval and Iron Ages. From the other side, the highest number of shared informative haplotypes between Iron-Age and extant Polish population as well as the presence of subhaplogroup N1a1a2, can confirm that some genetic lines show continuity at least from Iron Age or even Neolithic in the areas of present day Poland. The results obtained in this work are considered to be the first ancient contribution in genetic history of the Slavs.
    Poland is Germany!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Poland is Germany!
    Albania is Turkey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrudnyZydMalpa View Post
    Albania is Turkey!
    You are a Nazi
    Also welcome back

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrudnyZydMalpa View Post
    Albania is Turkey!
    POLAND IS GERMANY
    BELARUS IS LITHUANIA
    SLAVS BELONG IN UKRAINE
    TURKEY IS BETTER THAN POLAND
    Originally posted by CrystalMaiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    POLAND IS GERMANY
    BELARUS IS LITHUANIA
    SLAVS BELONG IN UKRAINE
    TURKEY IS BETTER THAN POLAND
    Slavs belong to Poland!

    That is why R1a M458 is highest in Poland!



    How is Turkey better than Poland!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrudnyZydMalpa View Post
    Slavs belong to Poland!

    That is why R1a M458 is highest in Poland!




    How is Turkey better than Poland!?
    Because Turkey is better than Poland.
    Western Poland is Germany.
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