Kartvelian Spain (Connections between Iberias)

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 01-23-2018, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by greasycaveman

lmao this man is white asf and has brownish blonde hair..

Having blonde hair does not make you white. He is not white, has very clear Mongoloid influences.

**Sebastianus Rex** · 01-23-2018, 10:50 AM

It would be interesting if the two opposite extremes of Europe were somehow connected but I don't think that makes sense, Basques and Iberians in general have no or very low Caucasus admixture. If there's an acient cultural connection can only be indirect.

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 01-23-2018, 10:56 AM

Cante Alentejano (part of the UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists) comes from ancient Georgian polyphonic singing

**Mens-Sarda** · 01-23-2018, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Nosferatu_

A very interesting video explaining the links between Iberias(Spanish and Georgian and not only) and why Basque is so similar to Kartvelian languages.

Is the soundtrack in Georgian? The polyphonic singing style sounds very similar to that of Sardinia and Corsica. This kind of singing style with four voices is very typical in both islands. In Corsica is known as Cantu in Paghjella, while in Sardinia is named "Cantu a Tenore", it's divided in various styles in different regions of Sardinia :

Cantu a Cuntrattu (Latin "Cum Tractus" = with ardor / feeling)
Cantu a Cuncordu (Latin "Cum Cordis" = with heart)
Cantu a Cunsonu (Latin "Cum Sonus" = with sound / assonance / harmony)

Sardinian : Cantu a Cuncordu

Corsica : Cantu in Paghjella

**Nosferatu_** · 01-23-2018, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda

Is the soundtrack in Georgian? The polyphonic singing style sounds very similar to that of Sardinia and Corsica. This kind of singing style with four voices is very typical in both islands. In Corsica is known as Cantu in Paghjella, while in Sardinia is named "Cantu a Tenore", it's divided in various styles in different regions of Sardinia :

Cantu a Cuntrattu (Latin "Cum Tractus" = with ardor / feeling)
Cantu a Cuncordu (Latin "Cum Cordis" = with heart)
Cantu a Cunsonu (Latin "Cum Sonus" = with sound / assonance / harmony)

Sardinian : Cantu a Cuncordu

Corsica : Cantu in Paghjella

Yes,indeed they sound similar.very interesting,Georgia Sardinia and Corsica are the only places where this kind of folklore music exists as I know

They even sing together

**~~greasycaveman~~** · 01-23-2018, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

Having blonde hair does not make you white. He is not white, has very clear Mongoloid influences.

yea sure.
mongoloid influence doesnt make you a different race.
plus, you wouldnt even be able to tell if he is partly mongoloid in real life.

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 01-23-2018, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by greasycaveman

yea sure.
mongoloid influence doesnt make you a different race.
plus, you wouldnt even be able to tell if he is partly mongoloid in real life.

**ovidiu** · 02-23-2018, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Longobarda

Nosferatu, don't forget that in Georgia there was also a caucasian ALBANIA. And what I've noticed in Spain is also the toponim OSSA (prefix or suffix), together with the surname De Ossa. Does it sound familiar to you, caucasian guy?

Another thing, Lazio has always remembered to me the Lazi tribe, Lazighe. Adige river in Veneto, the Adighei. And there are more that now I don't remember. Anyway you should Google "Iberi" (the spanish iberi) and see how they did look like, because if I am not wrong, the toponims you have found in Spain which in your view are caucasian iberians, are relevant to iberi tribes mostly. In my view they are very similarly dressed as caucasian people or better, like Karakalpaks of Kazakistan. It could be true what Strabo wrote about the ancient Mediterranean sea? "The most ancient populations of the mediterranean were the Liguri, the Libu (apparently an iberian tribe) and the Scythians".... what's the connection with caucasian Iberia in the Mediterranean sea? In my view with the scythians.

Lazio is just the Italianized version of the Latin name Latium. It's just coincidence. And Adige river is a corruption of the Latin Athesis over time apparently.

This Iberia theory, it's a cool little connection but in reality I think it's just a lot of superficial coincidence, and don't think too much should be read into it. Same for Albania. I've been to Georgia before, they have their own distinct look for the most part. But they're pretty nice people, that's for sure. I had a good time. And the food is delicious but heavy as hell.

**Rumata** · 02-23-2018, 06:49 PM

Attempts of connections of isolated Caucasian language groups to Basque (also an isolate) aren't new.

P. S. Stop calling Nosferatu_ 'boy', 'guy' etc. She's a girl

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 02-23-2018, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by ovidiu

Lazio is just the Italianized version of the Latin name Latium. It's just coincidence. And Adige river is a corruption of the Latin Athesis over time apparently.

This Iberia theory, it's a cool little connection but in reality I think it's just a lot of superficial coincidence, and don't think too much should be read into it. Same for Albania. I've been to Georgia before, they have their own distinct look for the most part. But they're pretty nice people, that's for sure. I had a good time. And the food is delicious but heavy as hell.

Georgia must be a very good country to visit and even to live.