Blue eyes in Southern Europe

[Dick]

It's posible that Dick's paternal ancestor as well was Saxon miner which arrived to Serbia in the middle age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia

Yes

[Kelmendasi]

Which haplogroups? How ancient and what's the percentage compare to Croatians?

E1b-L618(6400-5500 BCE Dalmatia, Impresso/Cardium pottery culture), J2b-L283(1700-1500 BCE Dalmatia), and R1b-Z2103(2800-2500 BCE Vucedol).

[Voskos]

@Hulu, Im talking of R1b L23 and J2b2 iirc.

[Hulu]

E1b-L618(6400-5500 BCE Dalmatia, Impresso/Cardium pottery culture), J2b-L283(1700-1500 BCE Dalmatia), and R1b-Z2103(2800-2500 BCE Vucedol).

Any others that relate to modern Croatians haplos?

[Token]

And Croatia is not closer genetically to north Europeans than to southern.

It is, by a large margin.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I don't remember all the previous posts but I don't think he denied connection of Greeks with Albanians ,he just used sources you don't like about your own people being closer to albos than centrals too,why would a Greek hate on Croats there's nothing to fight about so don't see it in a nationalistic way.

His sources are laughable. They say Russians cluster with Germans lmao and other kind of nonsense

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

E1b-L618(6400-5500 BCE Dalmatia, Impresso/Cardium pottery culture), J2b-L283(1700-1500 BCE Dalmatia), and R1b-Z2103(2800-2500 BCE Vucedol).

well those are Illyrians markers and since Albos are mainly Illyrians it's logical they will be found among them.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

@kelmendasi, see the other study i linked. It shows all west balkanites as well as Greeks share the most IBD with Kosovo and Albania.

Get serious, why would north Croatia share IBD with Kosovo and Albania since Albanians never lived there, ever.

[Voskos]

My sources are all from scientific databases and journals like PLOSone and biorxiv. Nato, you cannot respond to that by your personal results in some random calculator.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

This study https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...one.0105090#s3 showed that all western Balkan countries had high IBD sharings with each other, apart from Kosovar Albanians(shared most with Greeks and Italians). Croats did have the most IBD sharing with Bosniaks but still shared with Serbs and Montenegrins. Though Croats and Bosniaks did show more of a shift to central Europe in terms of autosomal make up.

Many Serbs originate from Croatia like Ayetooney and Pribislav. Also Croats live in northern Serbia. That's where similarity comes from.