Ryujin's FTDNA Results (aka True Ancestor)

**Sora** · 03-14-2020, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Where does Germanic influence in Balkan Turks come from? Anyone has an idea?

Target: Macedonian_Turk
Distance: 1.7809% / 1.78093526 | ADC: 0.25x
70.6 Greek
14.4 Germanic
9.4 Caucasus
4.0 Turkic
1.6 Slavic

I don't know. But probably an ancient thing according to this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_of_Yugoslavia

Due to incursions of the Huns in Europe and the associated migration period in the 4th century, Germanic people migrated to the Danube and the Mediterranean as early as the year 375. The first Germans settled in areas of former Yugoslavia approximately 800 years ago. The majority of Germans in the area lived in the Danube basin between Hungary, Croatia and Serbia, and were known as Danube Swabians.

**Kaspias** · 03-14-2020, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Where does Germanic influence in Balkan Turks come from? Anyone has an idea?

Target: Macedonian_Turk
Distance: 1.7809% / 1.78093526 | ADC: 0.25x
70.6 Greek
14.4 Germanic
9.4 Caucasus
4.0 Turkic
1.6 Slavic

It is not actual Germanic admixture. Think, a Balkanite has 25 NA and 25 Baltic. When person mixed with Turkic, in some cases, NA inherited but Baltic replaced with the admixture came from Turkic side. Expectedly algorithm prefers to give Germanic instead of Slavic

**Sora** · 03-14-2020, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

It is not actual Germanic admixture. Think, a Balkanite has 25 NA and 25 Baltic. When person mixed with Turkic, in some cases, NA inherited but Baltic replaced with the admixture came from Turkic side. Expectedly algorithm prefers to give Germanic instead of Slavic

It's not actually so too. You can find some at Wikipedia about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_of_Yugoslavia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube_Swabians

Even this Bosniak girl you've posted before is rather Germanic than Slavic:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...atch-results-2

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.73
2 Atlantic_Med 33.18
3 Caucasus 16.33
4 Gedrosia 7.09
5 Southwest_Asian 4.36
6 Siberian 1.2
7 Northwest_African 0.58
8 South_Asian 0.52

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 12.36
2 Hungarians (Behar) 12.56
3 French (Dodecad) 12.63
4 French (HGDP) 12.86
5 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 13.22
6 Romanians (Behar) 14.04
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 14.91
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.36
9 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.71
10 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.86
11 Kent (1000Genomes) 16.21
12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 16.58
13 English (Dodecad) 16.72
14 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.83
15 British_Isles (Dodecad) 18
16 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 18.03
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.11
18 British (Dodecad) 18.48
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 19.04
20 Irish (Dodecad) 19.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.39
2 57.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 42.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.47
3 50.4% Swedish (Dodecad) + 49.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.63
4 57.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 42.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.76
5 55.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
6 59.2% German (Dodecad) + 40.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.88
7 65.7% German (Dodecad) + 34.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
8 71.3% German (Dodecad) + 28.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.21
9 63.2% Dutch (Dodecad) + 36.8% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.27
10 53.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.5% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.3
11 71.3% German (Dodecad) + 28.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.34
12 56.8% Swedish (Dodecad) + 43.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.4
13 68.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 31.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.43
14 54.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 45.9% British (Dodecad) @ 2.46
15 51% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 49% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
16 66% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 34% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.49
17 58.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 41.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
18 63.9% German (Dodecad) + 36.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.51
19 52.7% French (Dodecad) + 47.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.55
20 62.5% German (Dodecad) + 37.5% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.56

**Deniz** · 03-14-2020, 12:09 PM

Yalnız hesaplayıcıda Batı Balkan örnekleri yok.

**~~Aileron~~** · 03-14-2020, 12:23 PM

Hayırlı olsun dostum, bende yaptıracağım.

**Kaspias** · 03-14-2020, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Sora

It's not actually so too. You can find some at Wikipedia about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_of_Yugoslavia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube_Swabians

Even this Bosniak girl you've posted before is rather Germanic than Slavic:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...atch-results-2

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.73
2 Atlantic_Med 33.18
3 Caucasus 16.33
4 Gedrosia 7.09
5 Southwest_Asian 4.36
6 Siberian 1.2
7 Northwest_African 0.58
8 South_Asian 0.52

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 12.36
2 Hungarians (Behar) 12.56
3 French (Dodecad) 12.63
4 French (HGDP) 12.86
5 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 13.22
6 Romanians (Behar) 14.04
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 14.91
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.36
9 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.71
10 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.86
11 Kent (1000Genomes) 16.21
12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 16.58
13 English (Dodecad) 16.72
14 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.83
15 British_Isles (Dodecad) 18
16 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 18.03
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.11
18 British (Dodecad) 18.48
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 19.04
20 Irish (Dodecad) 19.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.39
2 57.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 42.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.47
3 50.4% Swedish (Dodecad) + 49.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.63
4 57.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 42.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.76
5 55.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
6 59.2% German (Dodecad) + 40.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.88
7 65.7% German (Dodecad) + 34.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
8 71.3% German (Dodecad) + 28.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.21
9 63.2% Dutch (Dodecad) + 36.8% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.27
10 53.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.5% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.3
11 71.3% German (Dodecad) + 28.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.34
12 56.8% Swedish (Dodecad) + 43.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.4
13 68.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 31.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.43
14 54.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 45.9% British (Dodecad) @ 2.46
15 51% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 49% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
16 66% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 34% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.49
17 58.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 41.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
18 63.9% German (Dodecad) + 36.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.51
19 52.7% French (Dodecad) + 47.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.55
20 62.5% German (Dodecad) + 37.5% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.56

Germanic tribes such as Gepid might be influenced genetic pool of Balkanites. But those modern Swabian Germans have nothing to do with Balkanites.