are dark eyes almost absent in the british isles?

[Oliver109]

Yes, Galicians are the lightest
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Pontevedra-FC

Excellent example of a Spanish/continental Nordic, he has the well tanned skin but a clear Nordic phenotype, such types in England are only really found in the South and Midlands.

[Supercomputer]

For God sake, let clarify the facts:

1) the such Hoyos Sáinz makes a super "study" in the century xix where he analyzes the fabulous amount of... 3.000 Spaniards to that people like you make an idea about how a nation of several dozens of millions of persons looks in 2021. Ie he analyzed the 0,00638% of all Spain.

2) he included for that mega "study" blue, grey, green, brown and whatnot colours for eyes, as it is logical.

3) then modern anthroretards make a map and title it "Light eyes for Spain" but only include blue eyes, or blue + grey eyes, does not matter. Of course the figures are lower than if they had included the green eyes, since the title says "Light eyes".

A big LOL.

1. How many times do I have to tell you that population size has no effect on the margin of error. The overall sample size of 3000 is enough get a very close approximate of the actual share of light eyes in the country. You still don't understand how sampling works. As for the study being old - there are no more modern studies. Either produce one, or shut up about it.

2. Many anthropologists as well as many people don't consider green eyes as light, but classify them as mixed.

3. He did not count green eyes under light. I'm citing him, that's why I'm using his definition. As for the title of the map, you are free to change it, I'm too lazy/uninterested. And I'm not any kind of an "anthrotard". I simply make maps of existing studies. If you have a problem with them go complain to the author or the publisher.

[Septentrion]

What a load of bull crap!

Southern Europeans have less frequency of light hair and eyes compared to other Europeans, but still have their decent share of people with light hair tones and light eyes.

And most of them have a fair skin tone very well into the European norm, and are as light skinned as most Europeans (extremely ghostly pale people aside).

Stop with your ridiculous stereotypes.

The load of bull crap is what you have uttered. I know that many Iberians have a complex of inferiority, but there is no need for it. This is why you get so stupidly defensive. First of all I do not question the fact that Southern Europeans are just as Europeans as any other European whether Northern, Eastern or Central, etc..... The reality is that, we are also different, the highest frequency of blondes in the north, gingers in the north - west, highest frequency of brown eyes in Southern Europe.

[Septentrion]

Sometimes anthropologists include green eyes under light, sometimes under mixed. Is that too difficult to you?

For Slovenia and Croatia they included Green under mixed:






For England they're even grouped with "dark"

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Stop being so butt hurt about science says about pigmentation of your country. I just made HQ versions of maps already done by anthropologists. I'm not the one who came up with the numbers nor am I responsible of how Hoyos Sainz grouped eye colours. You're acting like a child.

And I the maps I posted of Spain are not just for Blue eyes, but for Blue and Grey. For pure blue eyes Spain is the following:

This is pretty close to a much more recent study, where 11.32% of Spaniards have blue eyes. I totally disagree when green eyes are classified under dark, this is nonsense or just 18th/19th century old anthropology. Green eyes are light eyes, and are just as recessive genetically as light eyes. Therefore the truth is for England, the figure for light eyes should be 77%.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Excellent example of a Spanish/continental Nordic, he has the well tanned skin but a clear Nordic phenotype, such types in England are only really found in the South and Midlands.

Well said, especially in Wales and Cornwall.

[Supercomputer]

This is pretty close to a much more recent study, where 11.32% of Spaniards have blue eyes. I totally disagree when green eyes are classified under dark, this is nonsense or just 18th/19th century old anthropology. Green eyes are light eyes, and are just as recessive genetically as light eyes. Therefore the truth is for England, the figure for light eyes should be 77%.

We have a different thing in mind when we speak about "green" eyes.



These eyes some people call "green" while others call them "hazel"

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[Damião de Góis]

Portugal has very high variation in eye colour. Light eyes in Portugal according to Eusebio Tamagnini spread from 13% to 29% depending on the region:

I'm sure differences in frequencies exists, but they really aren't noticeable in real life. There are no stereotype towards any regions regarding lighter or darker pigmentation, including the islands.

Andalusia is not as dark as some people think, historic migrations across Spain means that many in Andalusia have ancestry from the north and east of the country while Galicia being more remote was less settled than Andalusia, being next to Portugal means that they also have a lot in common phenotypically with the Portuguese. I have known a few Galicians and many were quite dark, the gradient of pigmentation in Spain is more N-SW in general.

That's very nice, i'm sure CV appreciated the lesson on internal migrations in Spain.

I know that many Iberians have a complex of inferiority

Towards who exactly?

I think Spain has more lighter blondes than Portugal while most of the blondes in noticed in Portugal generally had more of a dark blonde mousy colour, in Alicante for example it is quite usual to see blondes that have very tanned skin so you can tell that they are Spanish but their hair is quite light, interestingly a lot of the blondes in Portugal often have a more typically central Euro complexion in general, Iberia is a fascinating part of the world.

Another fascinating analysis. Maybe you should start a thread on this subject with examples of spanish light blondes, portuguese dark blondes, alicante tanned light blondes and central euro portuguese blondes.

[MINARDOWICZ]

You need to take a book and read. Why do you think studies are made? As I told you before, you don’t need to take the entire population of Spain to find out many things. Your argument stands on nothing. The vast majority of Spaniards and other Southern Europeans are predominantly dark - haired and dark - eyed anyway. I don’t why many Spaniards have some sort of inferiority complex, so what if you are mostly dark? It is Ok, nothing wrong with it. There are literally millions of Northern Europeans who are trying to tan their skin to look like Mediterranean people. Don’t get me wrong either, when I say that Spaniards or Portuguese or Italians, etc.... are «dark», this is in comparison to many European countries, but on a worldwide scale, Spain or Portugal is still pretty pale. You get emotional for nothing.

You are correct and Christiano Viejo is an idiot. Spanish are darker pigmented because of their location. It only makes sense. Southern Italians and Sardinians are as well. Portuguese may be even darker!

[alnortedelsur]

The load of bull crap is what you have uttered. I know that many Iberians have a complex of inferiority, but there is no need for it. This is why you get so stupidly defensive. First of all I do not question the fact that Southern Europeans are just as Europeans as any other European whether Northern, Eastern or Central, etc..... The reality is that, we are also different, the highest frequency of blondes in the north, gingers in the north - west, highest frequency of brown eyes in Southern Europe.

I was responding to your stupid comment talking about south Europeans like if they are always dark haired and dark eyed, and even darker skinned than the rest of Europe, when most of them have a very light/fair skin tone, very well into the European norm.

I won't talk for me, because I'm not even full Spanish, but Spaniards are proud as fuck of themselves, and would never look up to other Europeans. Some of them even feel superior to other Europeans.

[Damião de Góis]

You are correct and Christiano Viejo is an idiot. Spanish are darker pigmented because of their location. It only makes sense. Southern Italians and Sardinians are as well. Portuguese may be even darker!

Darker than darks. Woman on the left would make the eye color maps though.