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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Oh yeah, great article. That IA Turkmenistan sample was on GEDmatch too, not sure if it's still available

    HarappaWorld Oracle results:
    23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 34.3
    2 NE-Euro 34.07
    3 Caucasian 23.64
    4 Mediterranean 2.75
    5 S-Indian 2.26
    6 American 1.33
    7 W-African 1.04
    8 Beringian 0.39
    9 Siberian 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 tajik (yunusbayev) 18.92
    2 urkarah (xing) 20.73
    3 stalskoe (xing) 22.19
    4 lezgin (behar) 24.95
    5 pashtun (harappa) 26.69
    6 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.92
    7 nogai (yunusbayev) 29.18
    8 kalash (hgdp) 29.37
    9 haryana-jatt (harappa) 29.63
    10 chechen (yunusbayev) 29.7
    11 kumyk (yunusbayev) 29.79
    12 pathan (hgdp) 29.84
    13 burusho (hgdp) 32.36
    14 romanian-a (behar) 32.45
    15 bhatia (harappa) 32.62
    16 iranian (harappa) 32.8
    17 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 33.13
    18 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 33.27
    19 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 33.37
    20 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 33.56

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 52.5% makrani (hgdp) + 47.5% russian (behar) @ 12.61
    2 76.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 23.3% lithuanian (behar) @ 12.98
    3 53% balochi (hgdp) + 47% russian (behar) @ 13
    4 51.2% brahui (hgdp) + 48.8% russian (behar) @ 13.18
    5 74.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 25.2% belorussian (behar) @ 13.4
    6 74.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 25.6% russian (behar) @ 13.42
    7 80.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 19.6% finnish (1000genomes) @ 13.64
    8 50.2% makrani (hgdp) + 49.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 13.66
    9 72.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 27.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 13.67
    10 53.1% makrani (hgdp) + 46.9% belorussian (behar) @ 13.71
    11 73% tajik (yunusbayev) + 27% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 13.78
    12 72.8% urkarah (xing) + 27.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 13.8
    13 50.2% makrani (hgdp) + 49.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 13.89
    14 50.6% balochi (hgdp) + 49.4% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 14.05
    15 60% kalash (hgdp) + 40% russian (behar) @ 14.08
    16 53.5% balochi (hgdp) + 46.5% belorussian (behar) @ 14.09
    17 74.8% urkarah (xing) + 25.2% lithuanian (behar) @ 14.11
    18 50.6% balochi (hgdp) + 49.4% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 14.13
    19 72% urkarah (xing) + 28% russian (hgdp) @ 14.25
    20 70% urkarah (xing) + 30% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 14.3

    Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 35.97
    2 North_European 32.42
    3 Caucasus 19.16
    4 Atlantic_Med 8.33
    5 South_Asian 2.23
    6 Siberian 1.19
    7 Sub_Saharan 0.71

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 17.56
    2 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.43
    3 Lezgins (Behar) 27
    4 Pathan (HGDP) 29.58
    5 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 31.75
    6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 32.91
    7 Burusho (HGDP) 32.93
    8 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 33.49
    9 Iranians (Behar) 33.52
    10 Iranian (Dodecad) 33.59
    11 Kurd (Dodecad) 34.39
    12 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 34.83
    13 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 35.19
    14 Jatt (Dodecad) 35.24
    15 Romanians (Behar) 35.37
    16 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 37.16
    17 Hungarians (Behar) 37.25
    18 Uzbeks (Behar) 37.66
    19 German (Dodecad) 38.79
    20 Turks (Behar) 38.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 52.9% Makrani (HGDP) + 47.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 11.06
    2 52.1% Balochi (HGDP) + 47.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 11.09
    3 50.6% Balochi (HGDP) + 49.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 11.1
    4 51.4% Makrani (HGDP) + 48.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 11.33
    5 50.5% Makrani (HGDP) + 49.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 11.51
    6 50.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 49.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 11.65
    7 53.7% Makrani (HGDP) + 46.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 11.68
    8 51.3% Balochi (HGDP) + 48.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 11.74
    9 52.9% Balochi (HGDP) + 47.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 11.76
    10 52.1% Makrani (HGDP) + 47.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 11.76
    11 52.5% Makrani (HGDP) + 47.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 11.8
    12 51.7% Balochi (HGDP) + 48.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 11.94
    13 52.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 47.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.39
    14 51.1% Russian_B (Behar) + 48.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.59
    15 55.8% Makrani (HGDP) + 44.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 12.61
    16 81.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 18.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 12.62
    17 52.5% Makrani (HGDP) + 47.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 12.64
    18 51.7% Balochi (HGDP) + 48.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 12.64
    19 80.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.7% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 12.72
    20 79.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 20.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 12.84

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asian 46.02
    2 North_Atlantic 22.95
    3 Baltic 21.56
    4 South_Asian 8.06
    5 Amerindian 0.73
    6 East_Med 0.69

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tabassaran 14.06
    2 Lezgin 17.42
    3 Chechen 17.58
    4 Kabardin 21.75
    5 Tadjik 22.58
    6 North_Ossetian 23.02
    7 Adygei 23.55
    8 Kumyk 23.61
    9 Afghan_Pashtun 23.96
    10 Balkar 24.03
    11 Ossetian 24.25
    12 Afghan_Tadjik 28.29
    13 Nogay 28.32
    14 Kalash 29.63
    15 Turkmen 30.77
    16 Georgian 30.96
    17 Balochi 31.37
    18 Brahui 32.99
    19 Abhkasian 32.99
    20 Makrani 33.1

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.1% Tabassaran + 15.9% Swedish @ 11.57
    2 84.4% Tabassaran + 15.6% Norwegian @ 11.6
    3 84.6% Tabassaran + 15.4% North_Swedish @ 11.69
    4 84.7% Tabassaran + 15.3% Irish @ 11.74
    5 85.2% Tabassaran + 14.8% West_Scottish @ 11.81
    6 84.7% Tabassaran + 15.3% Danish @ 11.85
    7 84.8% Tabassaran + 15.2% North_Dutch @ 11.85
    8 84.2% Tabassaran + 15.8% North_German @ 11.92
    9 85.6% Tabassaran + 14.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 11.93
    10 85.4% Tabassaran + 14.6% Orcadian @ 11.94
    11 86.5% Tabassaran + 13.5% La_Brana-1 @ 11.99
    12 86.2% Tabassaran + 13.8% Estonian @ 12.01
    13 86.1% Tabassaran + 13.9% Finnish @ 12.03
    14 86.1% Tabassaran + 13.9% Southwest_English @ 12.1
    15 86.7% Tabassaran + 13.3% Lithuanian @ 12.18
    16 86.8% Tabassaran + 13.2% East_Finnish @ 12.22
    17 86.5% Tabassaran + 13.5% Southeast_English @ 12.29
    18 86% Tabassaran + 14% Polish @ 12.37
    19 86.3% Tabassaran + 13.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 12.41
    20 87.1% Tabassaran + 12.9% Belorussian @ 12.49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    But how close in your opinion is their relation to the modern groups that call themselves Tatars? In particular Volga and Crimean Tatars.
    It has a lot to do with Russian and European continued use of the term "Tatar" for these aforementioned peoples. The name stuck and was later applied to peoples who were conquered by Tatars aka Mongols in this context.

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    North Indians due to Aryan and Dravidian ancestry, Kurds on other hand are Aryanised Middle Eastern Farmers.

    east Iranian Pashtuns, Tajiks, Pamiris and Upper Caste North Indians such as Brahmins have high percentage of R1a_z93 bloodline and original Aryan ancestry, its real shame that followers of blond haired, blue eyed Indra became what they are today.

    a lessen to learn and a thing to remember for Germanics and Nords.

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    north indian is such a broad term. It covers kashmir to uttar pradesh/bihar area depending on the definition. If its northwest india like punjab, kashmir, haryana, himachal, some rajasthani groups then yeah pashtuns are probably closer to them than to kurds. However, pashtuns are closer to kurds than to UP/bihar folks in general, even upper castes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokoto View Post
    You made a great statement bro. congratulations. you spit the truth!
    bro lol why are you trolling so much on pashtun threads recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    bro lol why are you trolling so much on pashtun threads recently?
    Its all because of me.

    On his forum, at one point(many months ago, perhaps back to january?), he asked us all what he looks like. Of course we all said gypsy or south iranian. He didnt accept it well, especially with me, so he took it out on me by trying to constantly make afghans indians. He stopped at one point, but started with this bullshit again.
    Looking indian has a huge mental impact on him(which is why he constantly talk about looking like an indian on reddit, theapricity + other forums, and is obsessed with afghans)


    You dont believe me? Go to anthroworld, ask people how bokoto was like before and AFTER i said he looks like a gypsy
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