what is future of Moldova?

[Blondie]

I have no motivation to lie or make anything up.

You have motivation to lie because you have no argument, thats why you are always talking about me instead of topic.

It must have been until you swapped accounts with your "sister", another TA gem moment I happen to remember

She used my profile for 2-3 week, she had no any nazi avatar. Lets speak about the topic.

As for considering the economy more important than national unity, I never said that, I said that one is intertwined with the other and that it's absurd not to take economic indicators into account. Maybe your love for the nation is all you need to survive and fortunately for you, you have probably someone to give you a roof over your head and pay your bills, whereas I am in the job market for almost 16 years and I don't live in a fairy tale.

Another personal things, you have nothing to do with my personal life.

I can agree with it:

I said that one is intertwined with the other and that it's absurd not to take economic indicators into account.

But the national unity is more important than economic indicators in my opinion.

[Mejgusu]

who loves Star Wars,

But Star Wars is nice :) Ok Luke kissed his sister but everything else is cool.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

If you don't like it to be personal then don't do it, as it was you who first picked up on a personal aspect of mine with disdain that was irrelevant to the topic: "Dear Cultural Christian". More amusingly, you tried to associate it with the "woke" movement. I don't think you even realize that Orbán is a Cultural Christian as well, maybe he's part of the "woke" movement too. You diverge the topics to issues that are not similar at all, drugs in Portugal, LGBT, etc., and I'm the one who has no arguments, ok, your loose mini-sentences such as "I think national unity is more important" without any explanation are excellent arguments. "And therefore you are a leftist who does not understand so I will not bother explaining" is also a great conclusion. For the second time, I didn't say that the economy is more important, just that it can't be dissociated from the concept of nation and must always be taken into account. As far as I'm concerned, I'm through talking to you, it's clearly not possible.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

But Star Wars is nice Ok Luke kissed his sister but everything else is cool.

As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with Star Wars. I used that and the other bits as a counter-argument because I think it's hypocritical to say you loathe the West and be a by-product of it at the same time. The Star Wars saga seems to be fun but I am really only familiar with the first three movies.

[Mejgusu]

As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with Star Wars. I used that and the other bits as a counter-argument because I think it's hypocritical to say you loathe the West and be a by-product of it at the same time. The Star Wars saga seems to be fun but I am really only familiar with the first three movies.

I don’t want to get involved in this discussion between you both, since I am not into this topic.

But no one has the right to say something bad about Star Wars

[black hole]

I still remember those drama days around her sister "using" her username account.

[Tommie]

I dont understand this GDP oriented thinking. The nation is not question of GDP or money, but family is family, poor members are also part of family tat belong to each other in good times or bad times.
The german unification was not qestion of GDP, but it was moral and national thing, and everyone is supported it, right and left. Family is more important than any money or GDP, this financial oriented mindset reminds me of prostitutes.

Difference is that East Germans are still pretty much German and not so different from West Germans.

Moldova is a different story, I would've considered Moldovans to be family long time ago, but now? No. There are many "fake" Moldovans, since the Soviets deported and killed many Moldovan/Romanian families after WW2 and brought others in their place. There are many ethnic Ukrainians, Russians and numerous other groups like Gagauz and others in Moldova. Russians are not only in Transnistria but also in Chisinau and adjacent places. And it's not as easy as to say we could just kick them out if Moldova joins Romania, because all those people consider Moldova their home now and lots, I mean lots of Moldovans are recently mixed. Many have connections with Russia. And from what I know, East Germans don't have a separate identity from West Germans, whereas it's not the case for Moldovans. Moldovans are also not very fond of Romania, they only see Romania as an advantage to obtain EU citizenship so they could move around freely.

So, again, why would I consider these people to be family?

[dviz]

Difference is that East Germans are still pretty much German and not so different from West Germans.

Moldova is a different story. The Soviets deported and killed many Moldovan/Romanian families after WW2 and brought others in their place. There are many Russians in Moldova, and not only in Transnistria, but also in Chisinau and adjacent places. And it's not as easy as to say we could just kick them out if Moldova joins Romania, because Russians in Moldova consider Moldova their home now and lots, I mean lots of Moldovans are recently mixed with Russians or Ukrainians and have connections with Russia. There are also the Gagauz, the Ukrainians and other ethnic groups. And from what I know, East Germans don't have a separate identity from West Germans, whereas it's not the case for Moldovans. Moldovans are also not very fond of Romania, they only see Romania as an advantage to obtain EU citizenship so they could move around freely.

So, why would like these people are family to me?

I'm sorry but this is not a valid argument. Romanians living close to the borders are mixed with the neighbors, and in most situations, are genetically closer to the neighbors than to Romanians on the other side of the country. The difference is not even small, the genetic distance to the neighbors is half the distance to their most distant Romanians. Come on, you should know this better, you're from Dobrogea, a region with a very mixed population.

Also, while Chisinau is a tsarist invention, and half of the population are foreign implants, they are also the most educated, realistic, and in the past 10 years, the most unionist Moldovans. Rural ethnic Romanians from Rep of Moldova, are far more Soviet-nostalgic, and quite anti-unionist. Yes, some Moldovans have mixed ancestry, but young Moldovans are Romania/EU oriented regardless of ethnic background, and this is what matters. Besides, it's not like Russian culture is such an unknown in Romania or a massive social disruptor.

[Tommie]

I'm sorry but this is not a valid argument. Romanians living close to the borders are mixed with the neighbors, and in most situations, are genetically closer to the neighbors than to Romanians on the other side of the country. The difference is not even small, the genetic distance to the neighbors is half the distance to their most distant Romanians. Come on, you should know this better, you're from Dobrogea, a region with a very mixed population.

Some Romanians are mixed, that doesn't mean we should now let everyone in. I don't want a country full of mutts.

Also, while Chisinau is a tsarist invention, and half of the population are foreign implants, they are also the most educated, realistic, and in the past 10 years, the most unionist Moldovans. Rural ethnic Romanians from Rep of Moldova, are far more Soviet-nostalgic, and quite anti-unionist. Yes, some Moldovans have mixed ancestry, but young Moldovans are Romania/EU oriented regardless of ethnic background, and this is what matters.

I'd rather want Romanians from abroad move back to Romania in large numbers instead of people of foreign background. I don't care if they're pro-union, I don't want more foreign minorities in my country. I support ethnic and cultural preservation.

Besides, it's not like Russian culture is such an unknown in Romania or a massive social disruptor.

Of course it is.

You'd believe that after all Russia has done to Romania, Romanians wouldn't want anything to do with Russia in their country.

[Cybele]

I dont understand this GDP oriented thinking. The nation is not question of GDP or money, but family is family, poor members are also part of family tat belong to each other in good times or bad times.

The question about the economic impact of the union and how that affects our countries financially, is totally valid imo. Because one has to talk about these practical aspects too. In South Korea, they have a Ministry of Unification in charge of developing plans on different issues like: infrastructure, economy, education, health, culture with a view in the unification of the two Koreas. To my knowledge there are no such governmental departments in Romania or R.of Moldova, to seriously think and discuss union. As a bigger country, Romania should probably take charge of this. But Moldovans should give their feedback (if they're really interested) and approve in majority for the union to happen (currently the percentage is under 50%).
Unification means that Romania commits to pay equal salaries, allowances, pensions and so on, for its citizens from both sides of the Prut river. Commits to develop equally the hospitals, schools, roads...
At the moment there are problems in all these sectors in Romania, so how would we handle to bring more people to our level (and that in maybe 20 years), which is already not the best? We haven't even sorted our own problems.
And our part of Moldova is already less developed than other regions, with less investments and higher rates of poverty in certain counties. And our Moldova region has been part of the country for a long time already. I believe Iasi county is the only one, which is doing best in the region.
We have to think the issue on all sides, not only based on emotions (talking about emotions: I don't even know if the feelings of brotherhood are so strong even).

Family is more important than any money or GDP

Right, but from my interaction with the Moldovans from Republic, they never viewed Romanians as family. They viewed Romania as a place where they have free education and easier to move afterwards to West. They were always more close, talkative and helpful to eachother, in their group, which is understandable as they identify more socially , culturally with one another, than with Romanians. I mean of course, we were on good terms but in their group they behaved differently. I had a Moldovan colleague and initially thought she's quite lonely, as she was only interacting more with only one Romanian roommate, but in reality she was much more in contact with her group of Moldovans.
Sorry, I don't believe in this family/ brotherhood stuff (I used to), as the attitude of Moldovans I've interacted with, demonstrated me.