classify this new proto indo iranian facial reconstruction i commissioned for where does he pass

[Babak]

If proto Indo Iranians were Germanic looking, why don't modern day Iranics or Indo Aryans look atleast partially Germanic? Are BMAC and IVC genes that strong that it completely washed out the Germanic input? That seems iffy man, something doesn't add up. And before you bring up Nuristanis, they score similar levels of Steppe and IVC with their surrounding neighbours unlike pamiris or southeast pashtuns with higher Steppe levels and yet dont look Germanic at all.

I mean pamiris don't look Germanic at all, not even a little bit, I see zero resemblance between OP and pamiris, and yet the latter are approx 40% Sintashta . Pamiris non steppe DNA isn't even that foregn for them not to be show atleast sone Germanic phenotypes, so you can't use a extreme example like a half English person and half SSA.

And pamiris are like..50% steppe lol. Pashtuns score up to 30. Germanic my ass lmao. Proto iranics looked exactly like todays east iranics.

[Nationofsymbol]

If proto Indo Iranians were Germanic looking, why don't modern day Iranics or Indo Aryans look atleast partially Germanic? Are BMAC and IVC genes that strong that it completely washed out the Germanic input? That seems iffy man, something doesn't add up. And before you bring up Nuristanis, they score similar levels of Steppe and IVC with their surrounding neighbours unlike pamiris or southeast pashtuns with higher Steppe levels and yet dont look Germanic at all.

I mean pamiris don't look Germanic at all, not even a little bit, I see zero resemblance between OP and pamiris, and yet the latter are approx 40% Sintashta . Pamiris non steppe DNA isn't even that foregn for them not to be show atleast sone Germanic phenotypes, so you can't use a extreme example like a half English person and half SSA.

UGH, this again man??? its so easy to counter you, anyways, lets say, look up half south indian, or any half oriental mixture and half scandanvian mixture and 99 percent of the time they will ALWAYS have major ethnic features, they will ALWAYS end up looking like middle easterns or south east europeans at most, also the problem with "pamiris" being 40 percent "steppe_MLBA" is that they are NO WHERE near having that steppe_MLBA percentage as pure unadmixed steppe_MLBA, within that cluster they derive from is admixed with kumsay-botai ancestry, or tarim_EMBA like ancestry since most of them derive their ancestry from a dasty kohzy_MLBA or dali_MLBA cluster, not Sintastha_MLBA cluster or Maitan_MLBA or kairan_MLBA which is the original germanic looking people im talking about, they are the TRUE proto indo iranians of the steppe who were unadmixed with any botai or wshg or kumsay ancestry, what else you got?

[Nationofsymbol]

And pamiris are like..50% steppe lol. Pashtuns score up to 30. Germanic my ass lmao. Proto iranics looked exactly like todays east iranics.

LMAO, its craniometrically proven that unadmixed steppe_MLBA without any botai or kumsay ancestry looked germanic, read the post i wrote to avenicca, even then uuuuuuuuh why dont half indians half scandanvians dont look scandanvian again? answer that pweeese!!! if you can ansewr that than same can be applied to these "50 percent steppe" mixed pamiris LMAO which dont even derive their "Steppe" from the sintashta_MLBA unadmixed corded ware cluster, the cluster they derive from are from dali_MLBA or dashty kozhi_MLBA you buffoon, which were HEAVILY deviated genetically from the original fatyanovo or sintashta_MLBA cluster, try again, your logic makes zero sense LMAO

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why are you so retarded?

[Nationofsymbol]

If proto Indo Iranians were Germanic looking, why don't modern day Iranics or Indo Aryans look atleast partially Germanic? Are BMAC and IVC genes that strong that it completely washed out the Germanic input? That seems iffy man, something doesn't add up. And before you bring up Nuristanis, they score similar levels of Steppe and IVC with their surrounding neighbours unlike pamiris or southeast pashtuns with higher Steppe levels and yet dont look Germanic at all.

I mean pamiris don't look Germanic at all, not even a little bit, I see zero resemblance between OP and pamiris, and yet the latter are approx 40% Sintashta . Pamiris non steppe DNA isn't even that foregn for them not to be show atleast sone Germanic phenotypes, so you can't use a extreme example like a half English person and half SSA.

heres a preemptive strike at you bud

dont bother



legit, fedorovo samples were preferred more over sintashta_MLBA samples LOL

[Nationofsymbol]

And pamiris are like..50% steppe lol. Pashtuns score up to 30. Germanic my ass lmao. Proto iranics looked exactly like todays east iranics.

half asian half swedish model

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w-w-w-w--w-why doesnt he look scandanvian IMPOSSIBRU!!!!

[Avicenna]

LMAO, its craniometrically proven that unadmixed steppe_MLBA without any botai or kumsay ancestry looked germanic, read the post i wrote to avenicca, even then uuuuuuuuh why dont half indians half scandanvians dont look scandanvian again? answer that pweeese!!! if you can ansewr that than same can be applied to these "50 percent steppe" mixed pamiris LMAO which dont even derive their "Steppe" from the sintashta_MLBA unadmixed corded ware cluster, the cluster they derive from are from dali_MLBA or dashty kozhi_MLBA you buffoon, which were HEAVILY deviated genetically from the original fatyanovo or sintashta_MLBA cluster, try again, your logic makes zero sense LMAO

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why are you so retarded?

Could you explain this in layman terms please as not everyone is an expert regarding this

[Nurzat]

Keltid

[Nationofsymbol]

Could you explain this in layman terms please as not everyone is an expert regarding this

which part? as for the genetic element, the problem with their supposed "steppe_MLBA" ancestry is, such clusters varied from region to region, like theres a strong contrast between the alakul and the fedorovo regions of the culture variant of the andronovo sphere which modern iranics and indo aryans derive their steppe_MLBA ancestry from, the ancestry that modern iranics or south asians and central asians derive are from the the cluster called the "fedorovo" cluster mostly, which in itself was around 60-70 sintashta_MLBA derived and rest was from kumsay-botai cluster, some of them, especially the ones settled on the southern fringes of the greater andronovo sphere, were also admixed with naryn like ancestry which was another mykop like race, so therefore, such admixing can make the original sintashta_MLBA more diverged from the original progenitors whom were of course the sintashta-abashevo nomads themselves, it makes their phenotypes and genetics more "drifted" as you probably know, phenotypes are a very complex topic in itself so even 1-5 percent exogenous admixture for lets say a dutch persons gene pool, can create looks relatively different or have at least few ethnic features, overall their specific craniometric details would be different than the original dutch cluster, same can be said for the genetic element. but of course, there is also the case of among multiple samples where the andronovo ancestry can be derived from more than one clusters, like maitan_MLBA alongside with dashtikhozy and dali_MLBA, but the predominant is always the wshg-kumsay rich andronovo MLBA clusters.

wshg= was a result between eastern european hunter gatherer and ancient north eurasian like cluster with additonal saymeodic east eurasian ancestry

kumsay= was a result between genetically similar to CHG like race called the mykop and the west siberian hunter gatherer or wshg cluster

dashtiKhozy like cluster= was a result between sintastha_MLBA which was the original proto indo iranian pure unadmixed cluster which derive 100 percent of their ancestry from the corded ware culture like the fatyanovo, abashevo and the russian variant of srubnaya culture and with kumsay-wshg ancestry

naryn=were essentially predominantly mykop with additional Iranian neolithic like ancestry

maitan_MLBA= was essentially the unadmixed sintashta_MLBA cluster without any admixture from other "native" tribes living in kazkhstan same can be said for kairan_MLBA or liskovsiky_MLBA perhaps also the karkghas_MLBA

[Roy]

Proto-Nordid

[HectorOfTroy]

wow, you didnt say this when i posted the proto indo iranian who looked clearly danish in the last post, sorry but proto indo iranians will never ever look slavic or oriential, they always looked germanic no matter what, also this guy comes from the srubnaya-alakul cluster which wasnt even pure steppe_mlba, it had infused elemets of previous kumsay populations, so what are you gonna use to counter againts this? i have abuandance on abundance of evidence supporting they looked primiraly germanic, at least the ones who were 100 steppe_MLBA which was obviously a majoirty

I recall you posted a guy who looked pretty scando/Swedish before. That other guy has a bit of a different look lol, so of course I didn't say the same thing.
This guy could be a slavic nordic hence the "East Nordic" in my post you quoted, so if the soft tissues are accurate here, then some clearly could be considered slavic looking.