Originally Posted by
Avicenna
Seems like you are nitpicking what suits your agenda.
Based on your own criteria, I will dismantle your flimsy argument. Not only have you not provided evidence of this qpadm, you purposely includee heavily mixed pashtuns with hindkowans/qasibgars etc. Let me dwelve a little further .
You make the claim, although quite one sided, that because Afghan pashtuns score "10-20%" AASI( inflated numbers as usual ) , they should be considered South Asian, whilst pamiris, who also score this AASI regardless of the amount shouldn't? Or what about Afghan tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks or even Iranians who score some AASI? Before you make the claim that it's based on your own perception of what's "substantial", I can make the exact claim and uno reverse card you, by saying 10%, 12% or whatnot isnt enough to qualify for this magical south Asian inclusion .
However, let's put that aside. Based on nmonte and qpadm in which a user on a blog ran some results of pashtuns came up with this.
42.2% BMAC/Oxus_Civ
25.3% Eurasian_Steppe
18.8% Iran_HG-related
8.6% AASI
5.1% East Asian/Siberian (MNG_East_N)
Keep in mind he's a Northeast pashtun from Pakistan, and seems to be quite representative of Northeast Pashtuns.
This is a Afghan pashtun of what I can only imagine to be Southern pashtun ( due to the slightly lower steppe and more BMAC affinity )
58.9% BMAC/Oxus_Civ
24.3% Eurasian_Steppe
7.2% AASI
6.2% Iran_HG-related
3.4% East Asian/Siberian
Just to show a comparison with what seems to be a pashtunised hindkowan mixed pashtun
39.4% Iran_HG-related
23.9% AASI
21.8% Eurasian_Steppe
13.2% BMAC/Oxus_Civ
1.7% East Asian/Siberian
Now let's look Rors, who are one of western shifted and highly steppe group of NW south Asia
43.4% Iran_HG-related
39.5% Eurasian_Steppe
14.9% AASI
2.2% BMAC/Oxus_Civ
Oh would you look at that?! Almost completely lacks a BMAC source, as evident from qpadm, in which they opt for more Iran Hunter Gatherer, more AASI and higher Steppe, compared to the unmixed pashtuns who opt for BMAC something very closely related to the Bronze Age civilization of southern Central Asia (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, etc).
The mixed pashtun/hindkowan reflects the admixture you would expect from a external influences what with the higher AASI and Iran HG, however unlike the Ror still scores a decent amount of BMAC, reflecting their partial pashtun ancestry.
Hence, as obvious as it is, Afghan pashtuns + FATA pashtuns and unmixed KPK pashtuns should be, and are, included as South central Asians, as evident from above, the indication should be the opting for a BMAC source. Let's not even get started on other factors.
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