Who's hotter to women?

[Mortimer]

He does not appear to be morbidly obese (Class III obesity), but he is no doubt obese, not just overweight. I'd guess Class II obesity. I bet the guy in the second picture is putting less strain on his heart roiding than the first guy is by simpling existing at that weight.

I think he looks like a average middle aged american man visually he looks fat to me but not obese but i agree that if they calculate his BMI he would probably obese

[Universe]

How is this a debate lol

Let's change the first man's height to 195 cm. Maybe I will edit the first post.

Done.

[Mr.G]

What about James Haskell, or the guy I just posted above (Harry Aikines)?

For some reason I'm not seeing your link to Haskell, in this thread. But yeah Harry is another guy with sick genetics. Now if we are talking about steroid use and professional athletes, I have always sort of taken the stance that they probably all use or have used them. However, with the stringent testing nowadays, like VADA in boxing, I'm not sure what to think anymore. Have the cheater's just gotten better at cheating? I'm not in that world so I just don't know. Regardless, Harry Aikines would have a phenomenal physique with just resistance training and a reasonable diet. In fact, he is so mesomorphic he would still look good if he did nothing.

[MrCuriosity]

I just find it a double standard that men need a gym body or be as jacked as the second guy nowadays but women are healthy when they are about as fat as the second guy and society complains about unrealistic beauty standards for female models

I don't know if they are healthy, but they are considered hot nowadays with fat asses and stretch marks and even a little tummy, while a guy has to be really thin or jacked like you said. But guy doesn't have to be hot to get even hot woman. He can compensate with money or other criteria, but you are still kind of right. Now they even have fat models and fat women in commercials, but you would never see a fat guy being promoted like that just for being fat and for people to pretend he is OK looking.
Anyway, about the first guy in photos: he is not obese at all. He is just a little fat. Maybe he is unhealthy, but how can people call that obese?! And then maybe same people post photos of fat cows in their thongs on some other thread and say they are so hot!

[MrCuriosity]

LOL I voted no1 by mistake. Even I think no2 guy looks way better. But no1 guy is just an average fat guy, not obese at all.

[Hektor12]

Let's change the first man's height to 195 cm.

That would be exactly Zlatan-Messi then.

[Blondie]

Anyway, about the first guy in photos: he is not obese at all. He is just a little fat. Maybe he is unhealthy, but how can people call that obese?!

I don't understand it either. First guy is not so bad looking. Looking at the second guy, i associate to steroids.

[Tooting Carmen]

For some reason I'm not seeing your link to Haskell, in this thread. But yeah Harry is another guy with sick genetics. Now if we are talking about steroid use and professional athletes, I have always sort of taken the stance that they probably all use or have used them. However, with the stringent testing nowadays, like VADA in boxing, I'm not sure what to think anymore. Have the cheater's just gotten better at cheating? I'm not in that world so I just don't know. Regardless, Harry Aikines would have a phenomenal physique with just resistance training and a reasonable diet. In fact, he is so mesomorphic he would still look good if he did nothing.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Anthony-Joshua

[Insuperable]

I don't know if they are healthy, but they are considered hot nowadays with fat asses and stretch marks and even a little tummy, while a guy has to be really thin or jacked like you said. But guy doesn't have to be hot to get even hot woman. He can compensate with money or other criteria, but you are still kind of right. Now they even have fat models and fat women in commercials, but you would never see a fat guy being promoted like that just for being fat and for people to pretend he is OK looking.
Anyway, about the first guy in photos: he is not obese at all. He is just a little fat. Maybe he is unhealthy, but how can people call that obese?! And then maybe same people post photos of fat cows in their thongs on some other thread and say they are so hot!

He is not just a little fat. He is fat.

[MrCuriosity]

He is not just a little fat. He is fat.

So? I agree second guy is much more attractive, but let's not pretend the admittedly fat first guy is some freak or rare or even obese. He has a very common body. Lots of people are fat these days. It's not healthy, but it's not rare either.