Who's hotter to women?

[~Elizabeth~]

Why does it even surprise you? Jacked models almost always take them. You won't get an honest answer if you get one at all. Honesty about PEDs use is extremely rare in the fitness community.

The other forum I'm on has a thread for White bodybuilders. Most of the men in that thread look like they were on steroids. Here is the last one that was posted yesterday. I think his name is Branch Warren (it is in the link). I can believe Branch Warren takes steroids, not Lasse Matberg who looks natural to me. I don't like that most tan/brown their skin for competitions. Tanning is hideous.

[oszkar07]

Even today, I would still argue that money is as big if not a bigger plus for men than a hot body.

Trump would be considered obese if not morbidly obese.

He has height and who ever dresses him chooses clothes that dont over emphasise his fatness.

Elon Musk in a recent photo with his shirt off also looks out of shape with quite a pudgy belly.
I would guess Elon is probably close to 100kg.

[Marmara]

The other forum I'm on has a thread for White bodybuilders. Most of the men in that thread look like they were on steroids. Here is the last one that was posted yesterday. I think his name is Branch Warren (it is in the link). I can believe Branch Warren takes steroids, not Lasse Matberg who looks natural to me. I don't like that most tan/brown their skin for competitions. Tanning is hideous.

Professional bodybuilders use much heavier doses, and for much longer periods of time. They also have excellent genetics as being top tier athletes. And finally, these people are very lean (stage lean) with unhealthy low levels of bodyfat.

Other dude looks natural to you because he is not very lean, doesn't have top tier athlete genetics and his cycle isn't as heavy as of a professional bodybuilder. His body is still unrealistic for natty standards.

Tanning in done in competitions to even out skin colors and bring out the muscle definition. They aren't trying to be sexy on stage

[Insuperable]

Professional bodybuilders use much heavier doses, and for much longer periods of time. They also have excellent genetics as being top tier athletes. And finally, these people are very lean (stage lean) with unhealthy low levels of bodyfat.

Other dude looks natural to you because he is not very lean, doesn't have top tier athlete genetics and his cycle isn't as heavy as of a professional bodybuilder. His body is still unrealistic for natty standards.

Tanning in done in competitions to even out skin colors and bring out the muscle definition. They aren't trying to be sexy on stage

Lasse looks natty. What makes him questionable is his height since it's much harder for taller persons to throw in some muscles.

[Voskos]

You should have posted a black guy too for the thread to be even funnier than it already is.

[oszkar07]

The other forum I'm on has a thread for White bodybuilders. Most of the men in that thread look like they were on steroids. Here is the last one that was posted yesterday. I think his name is Branch Warren (it is in the link). I can believe Branch Warren takes steroids, not Lasse Matberg who looks natural to me. I don't like that most tan/brown their skin for competitions. Tanning is hideous.

Im not female and not into men but personally I dont see how this type of body is attractive, with the unnaturally over blown thigh muscles and veins sticking out everywhere.

I do understand in a freak show way how it is in a sense impressive to see this over the top Gorilla like Strong looking body.

I do think some types of body building some where between body sculpting and a certain level of body building can produce
athletique and jacked bodys that look reasonably good but i feel the overly huge and jacked bodies start looking freak show ish.

[~Elizabeth~]

Trump would be considered obese if not morbidly obese.

He has height and who ever dresses him chooses clothes that dont over emphasise his fatness.

Elon Musk in a recent photo with his shirt off also looks out of shape with quite a pudgy belly.
I would guess Elon is probably close to 100kg.

I like both Trump and Elon Musk as is.

[oszkar07]

1) Dad bod, 195 cm tall.

Spoiler!

2) Jacked, 170 cm tall

Spoiler!

Current world heavy weight champion Tyson Fury's walking around body resembles much more Dad bod guy 1) above than jacked guy bod 2).

Jacked muscles imply a certain level of strength and athleticness but are not necessarily indicative of fighting capacity.
There are quite a few Dad bod ish guys that could beat the pants of many gym jacked guys in a fist fight.

[~Elizabeth~]

Professional bodybuilders use much heavier doses, and for much longer periods of time. They also have excellent genetics as being top tier athletes. And finally, these people are very lean (stage lean) with unhealthy low levels of bodyfat.

Other dude looks natural to you because he is not very lean, doesn't have top tier athlete genetics and his cycle isn't as heavy as of a professional bodybuilder. His body is still unrealistic for natty standards.

Tanning in done in competitions to even out skin colors and bring out the muscle definition. They aren't trying to be sexy on stage

I complained about the tanning on the other forum a long time ago and was told it was for muscle definition. I think it looks horrible.

Btw, I didn't get a quote notification.

[~Elizabeth~]

Im not female and not into men but personally I dont see how this type of body is attractive, with the unnaturally over blown thigh muscles and veins sticking out everywhere.

I do understand in a freak show way how it is in a sense impressive to see this over the top Gorilla like Strong looking body.

I do think some types of body building some where between body sculpting and a certain level of body building can produce
athletique and jacked bodys that look reasonably good but i feel the overly huge and jacked bodies start looking freak show ish.

I didn't get a quote notification for this post either.

I don't like the veins sticking out everywhere.