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    Quote Originally Posted by Valenman View Post
    They are from Navarra
    and in Navarra there are two areas, one Basque speaking (North) and the other Spanish speaking (South)
    Almost no one speaks Basque in Navarra. It's like 10% of the population. Do people in Navarra view themselves as ethnic Basques?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketchup View Post
    Basques should be lighter than other Spaniards
    I doubt Basques are lighter-haired than any other Spanish group, they actually seemed to be darker than some groups to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Almost no one speaks Basque in Navarra. It's like 10% of the population. Do people in Navarra view themselves as ethnic Basques?
    Basque nationalist parties spread in Navarra, although they are not as radical as in the Basque Country as far as I know. Here I leave a map of Basque-speaking municipalities in Navarra (Green color), They are all in mountainous rural areas that in total make up less than 10% of the population, then There are Mixed zones (Orange).

    Then there is a population that knows how to speak Basque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketchup View Post
    Basques should be lighter than other Spaniards
    Aranzadi found 23% blond in his Basque sample but almost certainly did not distinguish between blond and light brown. Sanchez Fernandez in his survey of Spanish soldiers found the Basque country actually darker haired than average.

    One of the few scaled observations of Spaniards was from Santiago Alcobé concerning Catalans of the Pyrenees valleys such as Val d'Aran and found 20.9% pure blue Martin-Schultz 1-2b about the same as what J. Schaeuble found among the mixed German/Spanish population of former 18th century German colonies in Andalusia. I suspect that some of the lightest pigmented Iberian populations are found in the Pyrenees valleys. Andorra itself has significant foreign influence so perhaps less representative but there are other areas more isolated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Almost no one speaks Basque in Navarra. It's like 10% of the population. Do people in Navarra view themselves as ethnic Basques?
    There has always been a certain feeling of "brotherhood", but the Navarrese felt themselves as "different" . In the last 20-30 years, there has been a "Basqueization" caused by the nationalist sector that was extremely minority in the past, and supported by Basque nationalists of the Basque Country.

    Until 20-30 years ago, Navarra was one of the most "Spanish" regions that could exist, in a couple of generations, that is not entirely the case anymore.

    The use of Basque in Navarra, as you say, is very minority in the region as a whole, although majority in most of the north. The number of people who "know it" has undoubtedly increased because it is being taught more and more in schools, but as in the Basque country, the percentage of real use on a daily basis, of people who speak it daily , barely manages to grow despite everything they insist on achieving it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    There has always been a certain feeling of "brotherhood", but the Navarrese felt themselves as "different" . In the last 20-30 years, there has been a "Basqueization" caused by the nationalist sector that was extremely minority in the past, and supported by Basque nationalists of the Basque Country.

    Until 20-30 years ago, Navarra was one of the most "Spanish" regions that could exist, in a couple of generations, that is not entirely the case anymore.

    The use of Basque in Navarra, as you say, is very minority in the region as a whole, although majority in most of the north. The number of people who "know it" has undoubtedly increased because it is being taught more and more in schools, but as in the Basque country, the percentage of real use on a daily basis, of people who speak it daily , barely manages to grow despite everything they insist on achieving it.
    with "Navarra was one of the most "Spanish", you mean that only ethnicaly spaniards lived there in Navarra province and no one which was gitano y marroquíes y otros grupos étnicos?
    or I get you wrong?

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