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    The west-african at Dodecad is 0.1% which is the same as the east-asian score, and is what the Brits have also. On the other hand, Greeks are only about 68% european while Spaniards 90% (same as French or Dutch) and Basques 98%. The Greeks have like 25% anatolian/caucasus (West-Asian) and 5% arabian (southwest asian).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    The west-african at Dodecad is 0.1% which is the same as the east-asian score, and is what the Brits have also. On the other hand, Greeks are only about 68% european while Spaniards 90% (same as French or Dutch) and Basques 98%. The Greeks have like 25% anatolian/caucasus (West-Asian) and 5% arabian (southwest asian).
    In the last K-12 run, the results were as I stated:
    http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/06/...olling-in.html

    I wouldn't count East African as simply Negrid though and the rest of 0,6 is close to noise in some individuals...

    Also, you can't really compare Europid influences, including North Western African by the way, with extra-Europid racial influences, with West Asian being closest to the more exclusively (but not fully exclusively neither quite often) European components from all.

    Typically European are rather the proportions of components it seems, rather than one (or more) specific components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    In the last K-12 run, the results were as I stated:
    http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/06/...olling-in.html
    Somewhat off-topic, but I can't understand one thing. In the Dodecad run, I have 26.6% "Mediterranean" and 10.8% "West Asian" ... but in Polako's run I only register 18% Mediterranean, which supposedly INCLUDES the West Asian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    In the last K-12 run, the results were as I stated:
    http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/06/...olling-in.html

    I wouldn't count East African as simply Negrid though and the rest of 0,6 is close to noise in some individuals...

    Also, you can't really compare Europid influences, including North Western African by the way, with extra-Europid racial influences, with West Asian being closest to the more exclusively (but not fully exclusively neither quite often) European components from all.

    Typically European are rather the proportions of components it seems, rather than one (or more) specific components.
    The unique european compoments are West, East euro and Med. In the standard K=10 run it's only North and South euro. It all makes sense. Add them and see the european score. Basques/Lithuanians are at the top, and Sicilians/Greeks at the bottom. Obviously West-Asian is Cacuasoid, but not european. Otherwise Turks, Iranians, Lebanese, Georgians,etc would be as much european as any Western-European, which doesn't make any sense, considering they don't cluster with euros, and these components doesn't peak in Europe.

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    West Asians:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Apotheosis View Post
    West Asians:

    The one in the left looks russian admixed. Would be interesting too see how much East and North euro she has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    The one in the left looks russian admixed. Would be interesting too see how much East and North euro she has.
    West Asia used to be inhabited by Scythians and they were much alike to Europeans. I think you are just putting off West Asian as non-European to make yourself feel better since this type is lacking in Spain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Apotheosis View Post
    West Asia used to be inhabited by Scythians and they were much alike to Europeans. I think you are just putting off West Asian as non-European to make yourself feel better since this type is lacking in Spain.
    Do you realize that Iranians, Assyrians, Turks, Lebanese, etc are more than 50 % West-Asia ? Do you really believe these populations are half european ? Without it, they are only 20-30% euroepan, makes much more sense. Btw it's not just spaniards who have very low, Lithuanians, Polish, Scandinavians have also low levels of it. The Basques without it are already 99% European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Somewhat off-topic, but I can't understand one thing. In the Dodecad run, I have 26.6% "Mediterranean" and 10.8% "West Asian" ... but in Polako's run I only register 18% Mediterranean, which supposedly INCLUDES the West Asian.

    Every West Asian component that I've seen so far seems to be closely related with Northern European and specifically with NW European components. Your West Asian affinity is probably being represented and included in your Northern European affinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    Do you realize that Iranians, Assyrians, Turks, Lebanese, etc are more than 50 % West-Asia ? Do you really believe these populations are half european ? Without it, they are only 20-30% euroepan, makes much more sense. Btw it's not just spaniards who have very low, Lithuanians, Polish, Scandinavians have also low levels of it. The Basques without it are already 99% European.
    How do you assign the quality "European" to these groups? Obviously, it's not as simple as that. There are overlaps, and West Asian is present in most of Europe as a minority element, so it's nothing strange or foreign really. It is common knowledge that other Caucasoids like Iranians, Assyrians etc are closely related to Europeans - and one can see it phenotypically in many of them as well. Overall they are all part of the Caucasoid race, including Europeans.
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