Alnortedelsur Ancestry DNA Results are Finally Here

[Survivor]

It doesn't make you one of them. Afrocentrists are no less selective when it comes to accepting mixed people as blacks, that's way too low, I absolutely don't belive your story.

They just said I had to marry an African girl to be Black. If I got a White woman, I would be a White boy in their eyes.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

LMAOO smh that nigga is so stupid and he sounds old as hell
you shouldve been like "you gonna rip my lips off the same way your momma ripped yours off? is that why you are missing your lips?"

white people get in their feelings when you make fun of their non-existent as lips
https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-11-2013/njz2SG.gif

Lmao yeah. He sounds like a pathetic old fat living on his momma basement the stupod idiot. He indeed must be a non-lip looking pig, lol.

I told him some shit and he was going wild like a hairy monkey on the lose

[Heather Duval]

Go tell that to real Africans Blacks and see if they will accept you in their tribe...even Aframs aren't considered pure enough by many of them

You are just a wannabe.

"even Aframs aren't considered pure enough by many of them" you are full of shits lol
beyonce is very popular in african countries like nigeria and they think she is black
even a nigerian nigga started a rumour that she is the real mother of beyonce :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNj7wJg8knw
Lupita Nyong'o who is African, made a speech about black women and she support light skinned and chocolate ones and consider all blacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPCkfARH2eE
:lol:
I think you should talk for yourself, not for us black people

[Carlito's Way]

"even Aframs aren't considered pure enough by many of them" you are full of shits lol
beyonce is very popular in african countries like nigeria and they think she is black
even a nigerian nigga started a rumour that she is the real mother of beyonce :lol:

Lupita Nyong'o who is African, made a speech about black women and she support light skinned and chocolate ones and consider all blacks

:lol:
I think you should talk for yourself, not for us black people


reminds me of when Serena and Venus Williams were thought to be from Nigeria since there were rumors about them going on in Nigeria about them being Nigerians

The Williams sisters, Venus and Serena Wednesday put paid to insinuations that they were from Nigeria, when they said that they were proud to be American citizens. Speaking at the Federal Palace Hotel, Venus, in a response to a question on their true origin, said that while they love Nigeria, the fact was that they were from the United States of America.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/10/sorry-we-are-not-nigerians-say-williams-sisters/
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yhVEPotitO0/U_-EyqX0hUI/AAAAAAAAFU8/W-rntUV1IJ4/s1600/venus-serena-williams-win-wimbledon-doubles-crown-10.jpg

[Smitty]

I dont think the example is comparable as an african american is pred non british and alnortedelsur is pred iberian.


African American = 25% anglo
Alnorte =87% european

If a white american was 90% german 10% british , do you think he would indentify as an european mutt? or as german american? I think the answer is obvious.

In fact most "italian american" in this site are not of 100% italian ancestry.

I think its a double standard.

It wasn't a comparison. It was an example - an extreme one to make a point. But I should have known mentioning blacks would further stir the pot.

[Smitty]

And however, IRL, as Annie said, when I turn off my computer and go to the outside world, everybody sees me as white without question, EVERYBODY, even white North Americans themselves. I am not white according to your strict standards, but in the social sense of being perceived as white and treated as white, I am white socially speaking.

I don't give a fuck about your internet opinion and your stupid one drop rule.

If you don't care, then why get mad at me? I've never picked on you, nor am I doing so here. And I'm not a one-drop-ruler, as you also know from past conversations.

Yes, you may be seen as white, going only by your looks. So is MyAnthropologies, as he mentioned in one of his posts. But when someone finds out he's Afghan, he says they no longer consider him white. That's the reality. Just because people can't see non-white admixture doesn't mean they don't count it once they know about it. Hailee Steinfeld is another example. I daresay most Americans consider her white. But if those same Americans knew she is 1/8 Filipino and 1/8 black American, I'd guess most would change their opinion.

I'm done, though. You all can hash this out.

[Heather Duval]

If you don't care, then why get mad at me? I've never picked on you, nor am I doing so here. And I'm not a one-drop-ruler, as you also know from past conversations.

Yes, you may be seen as white, going only by your looks. So is MyAnthropologies, as he mentioned in one of his posts. But when someone finds out he's Afghan, he says they no longer consider him white. That's the reality. Just because people can't see non-white admixture doesn't mean they don't count it once they know about it. Hailee Steinfeld is another example. I daresay most Americans consider her white. But if those same Americans knew she is 1/8 Filipino and 1/8 black American, I'd guess most would change their opinion.

I'm done, though. You all can hash this out.

Mariah carey was seen as white before she speak out.
"Mariah Carey in 1990: Critics Loved Her, Thought She Was White ... http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6699720/mariah-carey-1990-critics-white

[alnortedelsur]

If you don't care, then why get mad at me? I've never picked on you, nor am I doing so here. And I'm not a one-drop-ruler, as you also know from past conversations.

Yes, you may be seen as white, going only by your looks. So is MyAnthropologies, as he mentioned in one of his posts. But when someone finds out he's Afghan, he says they no longer consider him white. That's the reality. Just because people can't see non-white admixture doesn't mean they don't count it once they know about it. Hailee Steinfeld is another example. I daresay most Americans consider her white. But if those same Americans knew she is 1/8 Filipino and 1/8 black American, I'd guess most would change their opinion.

I'm done, though. You all can hash this out.

You're entitled to your opinion. Is just that by the way some people on here speaks, including you, it looks like if I am begging to be accepted as white, when I am happy with whatever I am. I just claim to have all my right to feel mostly identified with my European side, since I am mostly Euro.

PS: and still, I have always claimed to feel very proud of having some Amerindian mixture.

[Smitty]

You're entitled to your opinion. Is just that by the way some people on here speaks, including you, it looks like if I am begging to be accepted as white, when I am happy with whatever I am. I just claim to have all my right to feel mostly identified with my European side, since I am mostly Euro.

PS: and still, I have always claimed to feel very proud of having some Amerindian mixture.

I get that. Like I said before, I think you're getting a lot of grief because of your racial views, and I think it's uncalled for. You absolutely have the right to consider yourself majority European and favor that ancestry. My reference to black Americans was to demonstrate that having any amount of blood from a given ethnic group is enough to warrant a connection to that group. I have very small amounts of Welsh and Danish, and I still feel a bond with those nations, so it goes without saying that you should feel a connection with Spain.

[Heather Duval]

"I just claim to have all my right to feel mostly identified with my European side, since I am mostly Euro. " Even Roberto Grande is probably mostly European and you used to blame him. :lol:

[alnortedelsur]

"I just claim to have all my right to feel mostly identified with my European side, since I am mostly Euro. " Even Roberto Grande is probably mostly European and you used to blame him. :lol:

He was constantly trolling Spaniards, and that's why I trolled him back. And I pass much better in Italy and Spain (without mentioning even further north, in places like France, British Islands, or Central Europe) than him.

[Argentano]

It wasn't a comparison. It was an example - an extreme one to make a point. But I should have known mentioning blacks would further stir the pot.

yes i get your point but an extreme example cannot be used whe the whole discussion is about the importance of proportions. Maybe with your optic you example is correct but with my optic your example (with different %) changes everything, and thats exactly is what is being discussed.

Do i explain myself?

[Vascontelo]

Great results!

[Smitty]

yes i get your point but an extreme example cannot be used whe the whole discussion is about the importance of proportions. Maybe with your optic you example is correct but with my optic your example (with different %) changes everything, and thats exactly is what is being discussed.

Do i explain myself?

I'm sorry. I don't understand. My point was separate from the broader discussion. I have no problem with Carlito's Way identifying with his paltry black blood (although I think it's silly); therefore, why would I have a problem with alnorte identifying with his substantial Spanish blood?

[Argentano]

I'm sorry. I don't understand. My point was separate from the broader discussion. I have no problem with Carlito's Way identifying with his paltry black blood (although I think it's silly); therefore, why would I have a problem with alnorte identifying with his substantial Spanish blood?

oh ok sorry then i misunderstood you .:thumb001:

[Longbowman]

This(op)white passing latino is 13/14% non Euro
"mn the loki ta son" is the same genetically and is called tri racial here, why?

mn is 45% euro.

[Jana]

...

You claimed being German, Italian, and now you're Black ? Rather a pathological liar. Beyonce is predominately of African ancestry and looks mostly black, nothing like this braindead 10-13% wannabe-blacks who wouldn't be accepted by no African as one of their own.
Such clowns equal if some African who are 10-15% percent white tries to present himself as European, ridiculous and delusional. You pretend to be a liberal, but are illiterate racist in reality as other ghetto dwellers.

[Rethel]

Rather a pathological liar.

This is rather how ends autosomalism.

Or maybe this is a double of King Niko - he also thought, he is negro, being from Turkey :)

[Heather Duval]

You claimed being German, Italian, and now you're Black ? Rather a pathological liar. Beyonce is predominately of African ancestry and looks mostly black, nothing like this braindead 10-13% wannabe-blacks who wouldn't be accepted by no African as one of their own.
Such clowns equal if some African who are 10-15% percent white tries to present himself as European, ridiculous and delusional. You pretend to be a liberal, but are illiterate racist in reality as other ghetto dwellers.

So what? You said African american, bitch. She is African american and the lighter one, because African american in average are blacker than her and she still considered black by Nigerians and her african fans. So, theres no such thing as you claimed about African's views on our black AMERICANS people.
"Light skinned and dark skinned black girls, we are all beautiful" - Lupita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPCkfARH2eE
She is African, see? The thing there is the same in America, they think light skinned and dark skinned are all part of Black race. Lick it up.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/227e8bf3630d2b76aaf66cd3c3da14b8/tumblr_n0qsr2Ulgp1tsztu5o1_500.jpg

[Heather Duval]

He was constantly trolling Spaniards, and that's why I trolled him back. And I pass much better in Italy and Spain (without mentioning even further north, in places like France, British Islands, or Central Europe) than him.

It doesnt matter. He still genetically mostly European and you should back down if he wants to consider himself such thing. He looks like 70-82% European.

[Jana]

So what? You said African american, bitch. She is African american and the lighter one, because African american in average are blacker than her and she still considered black by Nigerians and her african fans. So, theres no such thing as you claimed about African's views on our black AMERICANS people. Lick it up.

They are conidered mixed by most, and that is what they are. Now piss off.

[Heather Duval]

They are conidered mixed by most, and that is what they are. Now piss off.

Any SOURCE for what are you claiming? Because in my case I showed you many :lol:

[Heather Duval]

They say light skinned and dark skinned black in Africa and America, Its the same thing, they all are black for them. Lupita who is from Africa, has said many times that she was afraid of not being famous because she only saw LIGHT SKINNED black women in the magazines. :lol:

[Heather Duval]

You dumb ass bitch. The world is not TA. :lol:

[Jana]

Any SOURCE for what are you claiming? Because in my case I showed you many :lol:
In my school were native Africans too (from Namibia, Zimbabwe, Nigeria). And they said Aframs don't look like them because of their lighter skin. Btw they were friendly towards Aframs and seen them as blacks but certanly not the same as themself.
Also because Aframs forgot their native languages.

[Jana]

You dumb ass bitch. The world is not TA. :lol:
You are reported, subhuman.

[Heather Duval]

In my school were native Africans too (from Namibia, Zimbabwe, Nigeria). And they said Aframs don't look like them because of their lighter skin. Btw they were friendly towards Aframs and seen them as blacks but certanly not the same as themself.
Also because Aframs forgot their native languages.

Light skinned Africans is more common than you think. Nigeria, South africa, Igbo, many of them and more are.
Igbo from Nigeria
99.7% West Africa and 0.3% Central Africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvrfB7ENqvY

[Heather Duval]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ux5vdyvDow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSnxJrk465Y
STUPID BITCH
DUMB AS FUCK
WOMEN SHOULD NOT ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU ARE ALL DUMB

[Heather Duval]

You are reported, subhuman.

Subhuman? You look like a car has ruined your face, and also your brain because you are a woman and therefore dumb.

[Jana]

Subhuman? You look like a car has ruined your face, and also your brain because you are a woman and therefore dumb.
Actually, my face was ruined by bike accident where my brains were sticking out, dumbass. I had two facial reconstrucions surgeries, wouldn't wish it to my greatest enemies.

Yes, you are subhuman, not because of your race, but because of your low language and spam that pollute many threads. I'm sick of clows like you insulting me because of your hatred for colonials who abused your ancestors.
Slavs never took part in it. Now go away!

[Heather Duval]

Actually, my face was ruined by bike accident where my brains were sticking out, dumbass. I had two facial reconstrucions surgeries, wouldn't wish it to my greatest enemies.

Yes, you are subhuman, not because of your race, but because of your low language and spam that pollute many threads. I'm sick of clows like you insulting me because of your hatred for colonials who abused your ancestors.
Slavs never took part in it. Now go away!

Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/raVLLLmv8VM/maxresdefault.jpg

[Jana]

Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/raVLLLmv8VM/maxresdefault.jpg

Fuck off you ! I'm staying here :o :o

[Jana]

Black crimes against Croatians
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/53a217966bb3f780096c6f18/alex-song-red-card.gif

[Costas]

That's interesting, because I remember saying plenty of times "I think someone is white if they look white, whether they're 70%, 80% or 90% European", and then I said people in Britain usually asked if I was Italian or Spaniard (because I'm tall, I've got olive skin and brown hair and eyes).

BUT you, Argentano and most of the other Latinos were like "oh no, White is someone who is over 85% European.. it doesn't matter if someone looks European, if they're under 85% European they're not White".. and I'm like ok I disagree but whatever

anddd now you've got a test putting YOU at under 85% European, when you always thought you'd be above that.. so what will your reaction be? That's interesting

As expected, I just saw that you said that "even if I'm not over 85% European most people see me as White so whatever" and I'm like that's EXACTLY what I said so many times?????

So yes, see? I was right all along my dear


Ps: Also it's funny that we've argued because I've had to DEFEND African-descended people from you.. which now seems pretty ridiculous considering I'm under 0.5% SSA and you're 8% SSA according to this.

[alnortedelsur]

That's interesting, because I remember saying plenty of times "I think someone is white if they look white, whether they're 70%, 80% or 90% European", and then I said people in Britain usually asked if I was Italian or Spaniard (because I'm tall, I've got olive skin and brown hair and eyes).

BUT you, Argentano and most of the other Latinos were like "oh no, White is someone who is over 85% European.. it doesn't matter if someone looks European, if they're under 85% European they're not White".. and I'm like ok I disagree but whatever

anddd now you've got a test putting YOU at under 85% European, when you always thought you'd be above that.. so what will your reaction be? That's interesting

As expected, I just saw that you said that "even if I'm not over 85% European most people see me as White so whatever" and I'm like that's EXACTLY what I said so many times?????

So yes, see? I was right all along my dear


Ps: Also it's funny that we've argued because I've had to DEFEND African-descended people from you.. which now seems pretty ridiculous considering I'm under 0.5% SSA and you're 8% SSA according to this.

Not 8% lol, but 6% or even less than that (taking into account that it gives me <1% Cameroon-Congo and <1% Mali). Still irrelevant to have any effect on my phenotype or in anything. I won't argue this with you, because I already told Mortimer what I had to say on the first page on this thread.

And I am over 85% European on 23Andme (87.3% European, to be more exact). If I score 79% European on Ancestry DNA, is because some of the elements that are marked as "Middle Easterner" and "Caucasus" on Ancestry DNA, that are normally present in southern Europeans, Ancestry DNA brake them down from what they consider more "strictly European".

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Not 8% lol, but 6% or even less than that (taking into account that it gives me <1% Cameroon-Congo and <1% Mali). Still irrelevant to have any effect on my phenotype or in anything. I won't argue this with you, because I already told Mortimer what I had to say on the first page on this thread.

And I am over 85% European on 23Andme (87.3% European, to be more exact). If I score 79% European on Ancestry DNA, is because some of the elements that are marked as "Middle Easterner" and "Caucasus" on Ancestry DNA, that are normally present in southern Europeans, Ancestry DNA brake them down from what they consider more "strictly European".No its because it is middle eastern. The way they test on23andme is less effective. I dont remember the exact reason but it had to do with them testing longer bits vs shorter which is more into the past past 500 years. 23andme is accurate for more recent time. 23andme is also the only kne where i dont get more than 2 peecent middle eastern. All other commercial dna test i get 11 percent. Get yours looked at by doug mcdonald. I bet you will get more middle eastern.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

No its because it is middle eastern. The way they test on23andme is less effective. I dont remember the exact reason but it had to do with them testing longer bits vs shorter which is more into the past, past 500 years. 23 andme is accurate for more recent time. 23andme is also the only one where i dont get more than 2 percent middle eastern. All other commercial dna test i get 11 percent. Get yours looked at by doug mcdonald. I bet you will get more middle eastern.

[Costas]

Not 8% lol, but 6% or even less than that (taking into account that it gives me <1% Cameroon-Congo and <1% Mali). Still irrelevant to have any effect on my phenotype or in anything. I won't argue this with you, because I already told Mortimer what I had to say on the first page on this thread.

And I am over 85% European on 23Andme (87.3% European, to be more exact). If I score 79% European on Ancestry DNA, is because some of the elements that are marked as "Middle Easterner" and "Caucasus" on Ancestry DNA, that are normally present in southern Europeans, Ancestry DNA brake them down from what they consider more "strictly European".

Ok 8% African then.. not strikingly different tbh.

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Yes but you're not over 85% European here, which is my point.

You change your "requisites" to be considered White in accordance to whether those requisites include you or don't, which is extremely ridiculous.

At the same time, Middle Easterners are not White except for some people. Just go to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, etc. and you'll see.

[Heather Duval]

"If I score 79% European on Ancestry DNA, is because some of the elements that are marked as "Middle Easterner" and "Caucasus" on Ancestry DNA, that are normally present in southern Europeans, Ancestry DNA brake them down from what they consider more "strictly European"."

Demi Lovato is Mexican, and look what her Ancestry DNA results is:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5e58yTU0AAGXZh.jpg:large

[Kriptc06]

Ok 8% African then.. not strikingly different tbh.

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Yes but you're not over 85% European here, which is my point.

You change your "requisites" to be considered White in accordance to whether those requisites include you or don't, which is extremely ridiculous.

At the same time, Middle Easterners are not White except for some people. Just go to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, etc. and you'll see.

In my case at least, my percentages of east-med (4%) comes from sefarad jews, as I dont have direct ancestors from middle-east north africa, but from europe, proxying that dna. I also believe I have ashkenazim, from my eastern euro side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep_35FTnYVA

[alnortedelsur]

Ok 8% African then.. not strikingly different tbh.

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Yes but you're not over 85% European here, which is my point.

You change your "requisites" to be considered White in accordance to whether those requisites include you or don't, which is extremely ridiculous.

At the same time, Middle Easterners are not White except for some people. Just go to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, etc. and you'll see.

I don't claim to be white (which at the end is a very subjective concept). I just claim to be mostly European, which is true. I have said this through all this thread (check it).

But I can be considered "white" under the concept of being easily mistaken as being full white-European, and socially accepted as such.

PS: and is 6% African (or even less), NOT 8%, lol. You made the same mistake again.

[Argentano]

That's interesting, because I remember saying plenty of times "I think someone is white if they look white, whether they're 70%, 80% or 90% European", and then I said people in Britain usually asked if I was Italian or Spaniard (because I'm tall, I've got olive skin and brown hair and eyes).

BUT you, Argentano and most of the other Latinos were like "oh no, White is someone who is over 85% European.. it doesn't matter if someone looks European, if they're under 85% European they're not White".. and I'm like ok I disagree but whatever

anddd now you've got a test putting YOU at under 85% European, when you always thought you'd be above that.. so what will your reaction be? That's interesting

As expected, I just saw that you said that "even if I'm not over 85% European most people see me as White so whatever" and I'm like that's EXACTLY what I said so many times?????

So yes, see? I was right all along my dear


Ps: Also it's funny that we've argued because I've had to DEFEND African-descended people from you.. which now seems pretty ridiculous considering I'm under 0.5% SSA and you're 8% SSA according to this.

i think that on average most people scoring 85% euro and over will look white. Obviously you can be 70% euro and look white but i dont think most people scoing 30% non white will look white.

Isnt alnorte like 87% euro?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I don't claim to be white (which at the end is a very subjective concept). I just claim to be mostly European, which is true. I have said this through all this thread (check it).

But I can be considered "white" under the concept of being easily mistaken as being full white-European, and socially accepted as such.

PS: and is 6% African (or even less), NOT 8%, lol. You made the same mistake again.You claimed to be white until now. What changed your mind

[alnortedelsur]

You claimed to be white until now. What changed your mind

I claim to be white under the concept of passing as full Euro and be treated as white everywhere I go. After all, in this universe, things are not black or white, but more like a gradation, and it that set of hues, I am vastly European, whether some people on here likes it or not.

[alnortedelsur]

i think that on average most people scoring 85% euro and over will look white. Obviously you can be 70% euro and look white but i dont think most people scoing 30% non white will look white.

Isnt alnorte like 87% euro?

I am 87% Euro on 23Andme, but now it comes that suddenly, for some people on here (who claim that I should consider myself like a non-white mongrel), 23Andme results have not value at all, in order to fit their agenda against me.

[alnortedelsur]

No its because it is middle eastern. The way they test on23andme is less effective. I dont remember the exact reason but it had to do with them testing longer bits vs shorter which is more into the past past 500 years. 23andme is accurate for more recent time. 23andme is also the only kne where i dont get more than 2 peecent middle eastern. All other commercial dna test i get 11 percent. Get yours looked at by doug mcdonald. I bet you will get more middle eastern.

I don't have any known recent middle eastern ancestry. My mom is full Spanish (born in Spain, and her parents and all her ancestors being from Spain), and my Venezuelan dad has a lot of Spanish creole ancestry, and some Italian.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I don't have any known recent middle eastern ancestry. My mom is full Spanish (born in Spain, and her parents and all her ancestors being from Spain), and my Venezuelan dad has a lot of Spanish creole ancestry, and some Italian.Me neither. That wasnt any good point. I share a small centimorgan segment with an ecuadorian from Quito ecuador but i have no known ecuador ancestry either. And the ecuadorian is half eastern european.

[Costas]

I don't claim to be white (which at the end is a very subjective concept). I just claim to be mostly European, which is true. I have said this through all this thread (check it).

But I can be considered "white" under the concept of being easily mistaken as being full white-European, and socially accepted as such.

PS: and is 6% African (or even less), NOT 8%, lol. You made the same mistake again.

I was talking about before you got your results my dear :)

And so what you're basically saying is North AFRICANS are not Africans??? :lol:


i think that on average most people scoring 85% euro and over will look white. Obviously you can be 70% euro and look white but i dont think most people scoing 30% non white will look white.

Isnt alnorte like 87% euro?

Umm yeah I wasn't talking to you

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I was talking about before you got your results my dear :)

And so what you're basically saying is North AFRICANS are not Africans??? [emoji38]



Umm yeah I wasn't talking to youHe's 6 percent middle eastern plus 2 percent north african thats roughly his berber ancestry = 8 percent. I have a bit more than him though

[Neon Knight]

I am 87% Euro on 23Andme, but now it comes that suddenly, for some people on here (who claim that I should consider myself like a non-white mongrel), 23Andme results have not value at all, in order to fit their agenda against me.
I think it makes sense for West Asian and North African ancestry to have a half-European weighting, so by that you still come out as about 87% European on this test.

[Dominicanese]

argh fuck the dumb idiots that say in order to classify as such one has to be pure, no ones pure

alnortedelsur, they may not agree but i say your white and i classify you as white

[alnortedelsur]

I was talking about before you got your results my dear :)

I haven't changed anything of what I claim regarding me. I am white under the concept of being regarded as white by everybody, everywhere you go. But since "white" is a loose concept, and there is not a general consensus about what "white" means (for some people is somebody that is 100% Euro, for some other people is somebody that is full Caucasian, no matter if Euro or not, and for some other people is somebody that pass as full European, no matter if the person is full European or not), I just say that I don't claim to be "white" (since given its different interpretations is not a serious scientific term) but mostly Euro descent, and happy with what I am, to shut the fuck up to those people who accuse me of being a white-wannabe "begging" to be considered white.


And so what you're basically saying is North AFRICANS are not Africans??? :lol:

I thought you were talking about my SSA admixture, my bad.

[Leto]

The Middle Eastern/Caucasian on ADNA is normal for Southern Europeans, that's not some Arab admxiture. And only Sub-Saharan Africans are genuinly black, North Africans are primarily West Eurasian with a varying degree of SSA admixture.

[pmv74]

Yes I can also attest that the results of ancestry dna and 23 and me are different. My 23 and me only gave me 2.5 percent Middle Eastern ancestry and ancestry gave me 23 percent combined Middle Eastern and Causcaus. The only thing I can figure that accounts for this discrepancy is the way each company measures the DNA. 23 and me looks at the DNA that shows the last 500 years and ancestry dna looks at the last 1000-2000 years. Being southern Italian, the middle eastern was probably from way back which the ancestry sees but the 23 and me did not


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[Costas]

argh fuck the dumb idiots that say in order to classify as such one has to be pure, no ones pure

alnortedelsur, they may not agree but i say your white and i classify you as white

I didn't say that by the way, I've always said that to me white = passes as white.

On the other hand, it's Alnorte who has said that genetics are more important.. so what you're saying is basically that Alnorte is a dumb idiot because he is the one who emphasises a relative genetic "purity" in order to be classified as white.

[Costas]

I haven't changed anything of what I claim regarding me. I am white under the concept of being regarded as white by everybody, everywhere you go. But since "white" is a loose concept, and there is not a general consensus about what "white" means (for some people is somebody that is 100% Euro, for some other people is somebody that is full Caucasian, no matter if Euro or not, and for some other people is somebody that pass as full European, no matter if the person is full European or not), I just say that I don't claim to be "white" (since given its different interpretations is not a serious scientific term) but mostly Euro descent, and happy with what I am, to shut the fuck up to those people who accuse me of being a white-wannabe "begging" to be considered white.



I thought you were talking about my SSA admixture, my bad.

Haha I do know that. I was just saying that it's funny that you emphasise phenotype now whilst in the past you tended to focus on genetics.. now that you know that some tests put you under 80% European you emphasise phenotype.. that's it haha

And I don't think anyone has said you're a white wannabe so maybe you could shut the fuck up? :) haha

[Rethel]

i classify you as white

Being caucasoid doesn't = white.
Waadad is also caucasoid, but you cannot say, he is white.

[RN97]

I didn't say that by the way, I've always said that to me white = passes as white.

On the other hand, it's Alnorte who has said that genetics are more important.. so what you're saying is basically that Alnorte is a dumb idiot because he is the one who emphasises a relative genetic "purity" in order to be classified as white.

The thing is that most people who aren't genetically European do not pass for white.

[Costas]

The thing is that most people who aren't genetically European do not pass for white.

I've seen many Castizos who look more "stereotypically" European than many Romanians

[RN97]

I've seen many Castizos who look more "stereotypically" European than many Romanians

Because there are some Romanians that might not be actually 100% "Romanian" since everyone from Turkic people, jews, Armenians and gypsies have lived there. I'd still doubt it anyhow. Unless that castizo is more "European" than you'd think.
Judging by your posts (and I might be wrong) you seem to think you look "white" or European. However I would know that you're not European immediately because you don't look so (and that's not due to pigmentation). I understand that in latin America someone white is someone with a fair pigmentation with somewhat caucasoid features. In Europe we do not even use "white", but a fair bit of latin American "whites" would not fit in among any European nations.

[alnortedelsur]

Haha I do know that. I was just saying that it's funny that you emphasise phenotype now whilst in the past you tended to focus on genetics.. now that you know that some tests put you under 80% European you emphasise phenotype.. that's it haha

And I don't think anyone has said you're a white wannabe so maybe you could shut the fuck up? :) haha

I give importance to both genetics and phenotype, and I still maintain that I am vastly Euro by genetics. I always said, before I got tested, that I was sure that I would be at least 85% Euro, though not full Euro, because I was sure that I also had got some Amerindian. Then, after getting tested, I came up being more than 85% European (at least on 23 Andme), as I predicted, and about 7% Amerindian (again, as I predicted, since I always said that I could be between 6-12% Amerindian). The only thing that didn't come up as I predicted, was to score some SSA (though still not enough to affect my phenotype in the least) but some people on here make a big deal about it.

Look: I had the balls to show EVERYTHING of my genetic results because there is not reason to be ashamed of anything about myself.

And regarding people who accuse me of being white wannabe (not directly, but they treat me as if I beg to be considered white by them): I DIDN'T mean you, but other people on this forum. No need to come here and react like a bitch.

[Dominicanese]

alnortedelsur; ya deja lo asi

alot a these guys get offended for the stupidest shit, if there was an catostrophic event, i will put money down that these guys would be the first ones to die cause if their complaining about whos more whiter and who can or cannot be classified as white then god help em all

btw to the users on here no one on my island is 100% euro just to let you know, so does that mean that DR is 0% white?

[Costas]

I give importance to both genetics and phenotype, and I still maintain that I am vastly Euro by genetics. I always said, before I got tested, that I was sure that I would be at least 85% Euro, though not full Euro, because I was sure that I also had got some Amerindian. Then, after getting tested, I came up being more than 85% European (at least on 23 Andme), as I predicted, and about 7% Amerindian (again, as I predicted, since I always said that I could be between 6-12% Amerindian). The only thing that didn't come up as I predicted, was to score some SSA (though still not enough to affect my phenotype in the least) but some people on here make a big deal about it.

Look: I had the balls to show EVERYTHING of my genetic results because there is not reason to be ashamed of anything about myself.

And regarding people who accuse me of being white wannabe (not directly, but they treat me as if I beg to be considered white by them): I DIDN'T mean you, but other people on this forum. No need to come here and react like a bitch.

I know mate, I do think you're vastly European and, according to you you look European as well (I can't tell because in spite of asking you plenty of times to show a picture of you you have not done so, which I think it's strange but anyway). My point was you changing what you thought as the most important thing.

Also I don't think it's very nice of you to call me a bitch. Very very not polite, unkind and even a bit of ghetto.


alnortedelsur; ya deja lo asi

alot a these guys get offended for the stupidest shit, if there was an catostrophic event, i will put money down that these guys would be the first ones to die cause if their complaining about whos more whiter and who can or cannot be classified as white then god help em all

btw to the users on here no one on my island is 100% euro just to let you know, so does that mean that DR is 0% white?

I hope by "these guys" and "users on here" you don't mean me because that'd be actually the most idiotic thing I would've read this week.


Because there are some Romanians that might not be actually 100% "Romanian" since everyone from Turkic people, jews, Armenians and gypsies have lived there. I'd still doubt it anyhow. Unless that castizo is more "European" than you'd think.
Judging by your posts (and I might be wrong) you seem to think you look "white" or European. However I would know that you're not European immediately because you don't look so (and that's not due to pigmentation). I understand that in latin America someone white is someone with a fair pigmentation with somewhat caucasoid features. In Europe we do not even use "white", but a fair bit of latin American "whites" would not fit in among any European nations.

I don't think I look white –I know I'm a castizo and that's it.

I said most people in England thought I was European, and that's not my fault.

Also don't come to me with your "In Europe we" because I can tell you're not very well travelled. I've been to Spain, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Czechia, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia and Italy.. so don't try to lecture me on Europe my friend.

At the same time, in my experience in England people didn't care much about whether you were or not European.. in fact, in England it's a thousand times preferable to say you're from Chile or Brazil (non-European) than from Romania or Bulgaria (European).

[alnortedelsur]

I know mate, I do think you're vastly European and, according to you you look European as well (I can't tell because in spite of asking you plenty of times to show a picture of you you have not done so, which I think it's strange but anyway). My point was you changing what you thought as the most important thing.

Also I don't think it's very nice of you to call me a bitch. Very very not polite, unkind and even a bit of ghetto.

And why do I need to send you my pictures to "demonstrate" anything??

Several other users have seen several pics of mine (including very close pics), and they all agree that I look very Euro, and that's enough. No offense, but I don't want to show my pics to everybody.

However, I posted a couple of pics of mine in the member's pictures thread, though I deleted them after a while.

And you were the one who said that I should shut my fuck up, and that's like a way of insulting. Then, don't get surprised if my response wasn't very nice.

[Costas]

And why do I need to send you my pictures to "demonstrate" anything??

Several other users have seen several pics of mine (including very close pics), and they all agree that I look very Euro, and that's enough. No offense, but I don't want to show my pics to everybody.

However, I posted a couple of pics of mine in the member's pictures thread, though I deleted them after a while.

And you were the one who said that I should shut my fuck up, and that's like a way of insulting. Then, don't get surprised if my response wasn't very nice.


Umm I would never say "shut your fuck up" because that's grammatically incorrect and my English is better than yours even though I don't live in America :)

Also that's convenient that you've only shown your photo to certainly people. No offence, but I don't believe you shit.

[alnortedelsur]

Umm I would never say "shut your fuck up" because that's grammatically incorrect and my English is better than yours even though I don't live in America :)

Also that's convenient that you've only shown your photo to certainly people. No offence, but I don't believe you shit.

You don't need to remind me every time how well you speak English, like an English man, and how much better than me, LORD.

And I have only sent my pics to some few people I get along with. If that offends you, is not my fault.

Robocop, All-In, Sikeliot, DeBurgh II, Cristiano Viejo, Leto, Ilma, Annie999 (to name a few) can attest that I am not lying. But think whatever you want. I don't give a shit.

[Rethel]

Why do you want to be admit as white at all? What a difference? :picard2:

[Bet012]

Nice results.

[Rethel]

Nice results.

But still a Semite.

[Bet012]

Una pregunta Alnorte con Ancestry dna puedes ver los resultados de otros o compartir como en 23andme?

[Bet012]

But still a Semite.

and who are you to judge???

[Rethel]

and who are you to judge???

A reader of his result which he said about.

[alnortedelsur]

Una pregunta Alnorte con Ancestry dna puedes ver los resultados de otros o compartir como en 23andme?

Si, igual que en 23Andme.

[Bet012]

Si, igual que en 23Andme.

Que bien tengo una prima que salio 98% Europea ella vive en USA si de aqui en Enero no llega tomare 23andme cuando viaje a Canada en febrero.

[alnortedelsur]

Why do you want to be admit as white at all? What a difference? :picard2:

OMG :picard1:

I don't claim or negate to be "white" which is not a scientific concept but something different according to different people and their different definitions of being white (I am white under my definition of white, but not for other people, and I don't care about their opinion). I just claim to be mostly European genetically, which is true. And my minor non-European mixtures make my results interesting.

Stop assuming I am "begging" to be considered white. I am very happy with myself, and I proudly show with my results where I stand genetically, no matter who likes them or not.

[Alessio]

CongratS! You have some serious SSA.

[alnortedelsur]

CongratS! You have some serious SSA.

My SSA is not insignificant, but is not relevant either.

[Dominicanese]

I hope by "these guys" and "users on here" you don't mean me because that'd be actually the most idiotic thing I would've read this week.

te dolio eh?

thats what im talking about, dont be a little bitch, whats more idiotic is that this thread is over 30 pages long of ppl getting offended and argueing about whiteness and whats considered white and or whos whiter i dont give a fuck, idk if its you, but i didnt read all the pages, i didnt need once a i saw the first few and these last ones

to me alnortedelsur is white

[Rethel]

Stop assuming I am "begging" to be considered white.

It looks like you want to be admit as white, over and over again.

[Dominicanese]

CongratS! You have some serious SSA.

no

i have some sagnificant ssa, he has some

[alnortedelsur]

It looks like you want to be admit as white, over and over again.

I just respond to people like you who insist that I beg to be "admitted" as white.

[Dominicanese]

question is how much ssa do iberians and canarians score?

[Rethel]

I just respond to people like you who insist that I beg to be "admitted" as white.

So you see - not only I noticed this. So it should give you to think.

[Neogranadino]

I suppose alnorte looks white, so he is white. I don't get why people make a fuss about it.

[Rethel]

I suppose alnorte looks white, so he is white. I don't get why people make a fuss about it.

They have some issues.

[Dominicanese]

I suppose alnorte looks white, so he is white. I don't get why people make a fuss about it.

because those people are a bunch a pendejos thats why

[Bet012]

Who cares if he has a lot SSA people outside of race forums im sure he will be seen as White. Tu no te aguites al Norte.

[Rethel]

he will be seen as White

Who cares?

[alnortedelsur]

Who cares if he has a lot SSA people outside of race forums im sure he will be seen as White. Tu no te aguites al Norte.

Thanks mate :), but I don't think that 4-6% SSA (4% according to 23AndMe) counts like "a lot". A lot of SSA would be an amount that has incidence on phenotype, and makes the person look mulatto, quarteroon or triracial.

As I said, my SSA is not insignificant, but is not relevant either.

[alnortedelsur]

Una pregunta Alnorte con Ancestry dna puedes ver los resultados de otros o compartir como en 23andme?


Que bien tengo una prima que salio 98% Europea ella vive en USA si de aqui en Enero no llega tomare 23andme cuando viaje a Canada en febrero.

Aunque en Ancestry DNA solo puedes ver cuales son tus matches. Pero para tener acceso a sus resultados, o a los detalles de cual es tu conexion entre tu y ellos, tienes que subscribirte a un servicio en que pagas una cantidad mensual para tener acceso.

[Costas]

te dolio eh?

thats what im talking about, dont be a little bitch, whats more idiotic is that this thread is over 30 pages long of ppl getting offended and argueing about whiteness and whats considered white and or whos whiter i dont give a fuck, idk if its you, but i didnt read all the pages, i didnt need once a i saw the first few and these last ones

to me alnortedelsur is white

Don't be a little bitch?

Why do you wanna suck his cock so fucking much? Do you fancy him? Cos you seem obsessed with him and it's pretty disturbing

Also don't call me a bitch mate, you should be thankful I'm even talking to you – to me you're an uneducated illiterate ghetto Dominican who can't even fit in in fucking Miami

Go back to your fucking island mate, you're a fucking disgrace

[Costas]

I suppose alnorte looks white, so he is white. I don't get why people make a fuss about it.

Because Alnorte was the one saying "looking white" wasn't enough :lol: That's why.

[Dominicanese]

Don't be a little bitch?

Why do you wanna suck his cock so fucking much? Do you fancy him? Cos you seem obsessed with him and it's pretty disturbing

Also don't call me a bitch mate, you should be thankful I'm even talking to you – to me you're an uneducated illiterate ghetto Dominican who can't even fit in in fucking Miami

Go back to your fucking island mate, you're a fucking disgrace

your right about not fitting in miami, i dont wanna be part of this fake ass city anyways mate

you care alot bout class huh, im from the rural part of DR not the city mate

i aint ghetto at all, soy campesino, ghetto dominican spanish you wouldnt understand shit

and in miami everyone wants to be ghetto and that is seen as the norm here so, i can tell u havent traveled much (aver si te dolio esa)

[Costas]

your right about not fitting in miami, i dont wanna be part of this fake ass city anyways mate

you care alot bout class huh, im from the rural part of DR not the city mate

i aint ghetto at all, soy campesino, ghetto dominican spanish you wouldnt understand shit

and in miami everyone wants to be ghetto and that is seen as the norm here so, i can tell u havent traveled much (aver si te dolio esa)

Haha I've been to DC, NYC and Boston bro, not to some fucking tacky tasteless city like Miami. I've also been to Europe three times :)

I doubt you've ever even left the Americas.

And also.. you're not ghetto? Mate you can't even tell the difference between "your" and "you're", you're clearly very stupid, ignorant and uneducated.

Go sell some fucking burritos on the street man, it's probably what you do best.

Also you're ugly as fuck and you look like an Puerto Rican tranny with pubes on her face.

[Carlito's Way]

because those people are a bunch a pendejos thats why

Nigga, if you saw his past post about what he considered white, you'd know he wouldn't have qualified, simply just by his SSA alone, which to him someone with more than 3% SSA would not be considered white

But because he now knows his SSA is 7%, he changes his mind, and it's 7% based on AncestryDNA since on 23andMe, they underestimate the Amerindian and SSA

This is why it had people talking, don't nobody give a fuck at the end of the day, but he needs to stop contradicting himself

This is why he should've done a DNA test before talking

His Venezuelan parent would be more than 7% SSA, but according to him SSA is hard to dilute and anyone with more than 10% SSA would easily show on their phenotype, but since according to him none of his family members how SSA, then things have changed


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[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Doesnt matter if he he is white or not. He has ssa ancestors and he hates them

[alnortedelsur]

Nigga, if you saw his past post about what he considered white, you'd know he wouldn't have qualified, simply just by his SSA alone, which to him someone with more than 3% SSA would not be considered white

But because he now knows his SSA is 7%, he changes his mind, and it's 7% based on AncestryDNA since on 23andMe, they underestimate the Amerindian and SSA

This is why it had people talking, don't nobody give a fuck at the end of the day, but he needs to stop contradicting himself

This is why he should've done a DNA test before talking

His Venezuelan parent would be more than 7% SSA, but according to him SSA is hard to dilute and anyone with more than 10% SSA would easily show on their phenotype, but since according to him none of his family members how SSA, then things have changed


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First of all, I didn't say that somebody with more than 3% SSA would not be considered white, retard. I just said that the limit to be considered white, according to my criteria (because there is not a universal criteria of what is being white), would normally be to be equal ore more than 85% European, and that your non-Euro admixture be all or mostly Amerindian or any other non-black race. And that IF there is some SSA admix, this should not exceed 5% (NOT 3% you idiot), and being able to pass as full Euro to most people.

I came up being 4% SSA on 23Andme and only a fucking 1% above 5% SSA on Ancestry DNA. And aside of that fucking 1% over the 5% limit, I still fulfill all the rest of the criteria for what I said I consider "being white". That fucking 1% over 5% still don't rule me out of considering myself white under my criteria because if I did set that limit, I did it in a general way, because I considered it to be the benchmark under which it can be taken for granted that nobody with that percentage or less of SSA would show any SSA traits. But given the case that neither me nor any of my siblings show any SSA traits (and not even my dad or any of his deceased brothers showed any SSA traits), and I get easily perceived as white by everybody, everywhere I go, I won't change the way I see myself, for only a fucking 1% SSA over the 5% limit that I set.

Secondly, I am equal (or even less than) 6% SSA according to Ancestry DNA, NOT 7%, stupid idiot. Read the OP again, and stop getting numbers out of your ass to inflate my SSA. And even if I was 7% SSA (only a fucking 2% over the limit that I set), my point would still stand.

Thirdly, if I talked what I talked before getting my DNA tested, you can figure out how heavily Euro I look to have said what I said before having known that I would score 4% SSA on 23AndMe and 6% or less SSA on Ancestry DNA.

Fourthly, I never said that EVERYBODY who scores 10% SSA, this would show on his/her phenotype. Stop talking out of your ass, putting words on my mouth, that I didn't say. Quite the contrary: I have said, on this same thread, that many people with 10-12% SSA or even some more, don't show it, or hardly show it on their phenotype (without negating that there are also many people with 10-12 SSA who show it on their phenotype), and neither my dad or any of his deceased full brothers showed any SSA traits whatsoever.

And fifth and lastly, you and the idiots that second you, criticize me for having despised black people, when it comes that I ended up scoring some SSA. But YOU, being over 90% European (according to yourself) talk shit about white people, like them being thieves on Latin American soil, and stuff like that, and even said once that if you were the Venezuelan government, you would slaughter all white Venezuelans :picard1:

I just have said that I dislike black people collectively (NOT that I hate them), but also have made clear that I'm open minded enough to admit that there might be some honorable exceptions among them, including some few blacks with high IQ, and some cool and nice people among them, who I wouldn't mind being friends with. And NEVER have talked about hating all of them, or about exterminating them. While you have even talked about exterminating whites, being YOU over 90% European (according to yourself).

But then, you have the freaking balls of critizising me for having a bad concept of blacks in general, being myself not more than 6% SSA.

So, now it comes that when somebody is only 6% SSA and this person dislikes (don't hate) black people in general, that's awfully bad, and that merits the lynching of that person, but if somebody is over 90% Euro, and hates white people and talks shit about white people, that's cool.

Fuck with you and your hypocritical double standards.

[Dominicanese]

Haha I've been to DC, NYC and Boston bro, not to some fucking tacky tasteless city like Miami. I've also been to Europe three times :)

I doubt you've ever even left the Americas.

And also.. you're not ghetto? Mate you can't even tell the difference between "your" and "you're", you're clearly very stupid, ignorant and uneducated.

Go sell some fucking burritos on the street man, it's probably what you do best.

Also you're ugly as fuck and you look like an Puerto Rican tranny with pubes on her face.

dude i work for american airlines and have been to 35 countries, do not compare yourself to me when it comes to traveling i will own you, i travel for free dont have to pay shit iv been to europe about 6 times, wanna keep at it and iv been to your damn country too and iv told u about it

and me ugly? yeah sure, thats not what the chicks tell me dude

now you brought up looks i never insulted you on your looks, but since you brought it up you look like a fucking pinguin with that nose of yours and have the body of a chick likely you will have no chance against a real man in a fight i wana see just how easy he will dominate your lil bitch ass, i will fuck you up till u love me bitch

a man who comes all this way in offense like u has alot of problems, i guess when a man lives long enough he sees everythin and imean everything, ppl like u i know so well

mucho hablan, nada hacen

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

First of all, I didn't say that somebody with more than 3% SSA would not be considered white, retard. I just said that the limit to be considered white, according to my criteria (because there is not a universal criteria of what is being white), would normally be to be equal ore more than 85% European, and that your non-Euro admixture be all or mostly Amerindian or any other non-black race. And that IF there is some SSA admix, this should not exceed 5% (NOT 3% you idiot), and being able to pass as full Euro to most people.

I came up being 4% SSA on 23Andme and only a fucking 1% above 5% SSA on Ancestry DNA. And aside of that fucking 1% over the 5% limit, I still fulfill all the rest of the criteria for what I said I consider "being white". That fucking 1% over 5% still don't rule me out of considering myself white under my criteria because if I did set that limit, I did it in a general way, because I considered it to be the benchmark under which it can be taken for granted that nobody with that percentage or less of SSA would show any SSA traits. But given the case that neither me nor any of my siblings show any SSA traits (and not even my dad or any of his deceased brothers showed any SSA traits), and I get easily perceived as white by everybody, everywhere I go, I won't change the way I see myself, for only a fucking 1% SSA over the 5% limit that I set.

Secondly, I am equal (or even less than) 6% SSA according to Ancestry DNA, NOT 7%, stupid idiot. Read the OP again, and stop getting numbers out of your ass to inflate my SSA. And even if I was 7% SSA (only a fucking 2% over the limit that I set), my point would still stand.

Thirdly, if I talked what I talked before getting my DNA tested, you can figure out how heavily Euro I look to have said what I said before having known that I would score 4% SSA on 23AndMe and 6% or less SSA on Ancestry DNA.

Fourthly, I never said that EVERYBODY who scores 10% SSA, this would show on his/her phenotype. Stop talking out of your ass, putting words on my mouth, that I didn't say. Quite the contrary: I have said, on this same thread, that many people with 10-12% SSA or even some more, don't show it, or hardly show it on their phenotype (without negating that there are also many people with 10-12 SSA who show it on their phenotype), and neither my dad or any of his deceased full brothers showed any SSA traits whatsoever.

And fifth and lastly, you and the idiots that second you, criticize me for having despised black people, when it comes that I ended up scoring some SSA. But YOU, being over 90% European (according to yourself) talk shit about white people, like them being thieves on Latin American soil, and stuff like that, and even said once that if you were the Venezuelan government, you would slaughter all white Venezuelans :picard1:

I just have said that I dislike black people collectively (NOT that I hate them), but also have made clear that I'm open minded enough to admit that there might be some honorable exceptions among them, including some few blacks with high IQ, and some cool and nice people among them, who I wouldn't mind being friends with. And NEVER have talked about hating all of them, or about exterminating them. While you have even talked about exterminating whites, being YOU over 90% European (according to yourself).

But then, you have the freaking balls of critizising me for having a bad concept of blacks in general, being myself not more than 6% SSA.

So, now it comes that when somebody is only 6% SSA and this person dislikes (don't hate) black people in general, that's awfully bad, and that merits the lynching of that person, but if somebody is over 90% Euro, and hates white people and talks shit about white people, that's cool.

Fuck with you and your hypocritical double standards.Alright you "Dislike" your black ancestors collectively.

[SupaThug]

Nice results,I think mine would be quite similar

[Gangrel]

First of all, I didn't say that somebody with more than 3% SSA would not be considered white, retard. I just said that the limit to be considered white, according to my criteria (because there is not a universal criteria of what is being white), would normally be to be equal ore more than 85% European, and that your non-Euro admixture be all or mostly Amerindian or any other non-black race. And that IF there is some SSA admix, this should not exceed 5% (NOT 3% you idiot), and being able to pass as full Euro to most people.

I came up being 4% SSA on 23Andme and only a fucking 1% above 5% SSA on Ancestry DNA. And aside of that fucking 1% over the 5% limit, I still fulfill all the rest of the criteria for what I said I consider "being white". That fucking 1% over 5% still don't rule me out of considering myself white under my criteria because if I did set that limit, I did it in a general way, because I considered it to be the benchmark under which it can be taken for granted that nobody with that percentage or less of SSA would show any SSA traits. But given the case that neither me nor any of my siblings show any SSA traits (and not even my dad or any of his deceased brothers showed any SSA traits), and I get easily perceived as white by everybody, everywhere I go, I won't change the way I see myself, for only a fucking 1% SSA over the 5% limit that I set.

Secondly, I am equal (or even less than) 6% SSA according to Ancestry DNA, NOT 7%, stupid idiot. Read the OP again, and stop getting numbers out of your ass to inflate my SSA. And even if I was 7% SSA (only a fucking 2% over the limit that I set), my point would still stand.

Thirdly, if I talked what I talked before getting my DNA tested, you can figure out how heavily Euro I look to have said what I said before having known that I would score 4% SSA on 23AndMe and 6% or less SSA on Ancestry DNA.

Fourthly, I never said that EVERYBODY who scores 10% SSA, this would show on his/her phenotype. Stop talking out of your ass, putting words on my mouth, that I didn't say. Quite the contrary: I have said, on this same thread, that many people with 10-12% SSA or even some more, don't show it, or hardly show it on their phenotype (without negating that there are also many people with 10-12 SSA who show it on their phenotype), and neither my dad or any of his deceased full brothers showed any SSA traits whatsoever.

And fifth and lastly, you and the idiots that second you, criticize me for having despised black people, when it comes that I ended up scoring some SSA. But YOU, being over 90% European (according to yourself) talk shit about white people, like them being thieves on Latin American soil, and stuff like that, and even said once that if you were the Venezuelan government, you would slaughter all white Venezuelans :picard1:

I just have said that I dislike black people collectively (NOT that I hate them), but also have made clear that I'm open minded enough to admit that there might be some honorable exceptions among them, including some few blacks with high IQ, and some cool and nice people among them, who I wouldn't mind being friends with. And NEVER have talked about hating all of them, or about exterminating them. While you have even talked about exterminating whites, being YOU over 90% European (according to yourself).

But then, you have the freaking balls of critizising me for having a bad concept of blacks in general, being myself not more than 6% SSA.

So, now it comes that when somebody is only 6% SSA and this person dislikes (don't hate) black people in general, that's awfully bad, and that merits the lynching of that person, but if somebody is over 90% Euro, and hates white people and talks shit about white people, that's cool.

Fuck with you and your hypocritical double standards.

lmao you can feel the butthurt radiating off this post

[alnortedelsur]

Alright you "Dislike" your black ancestors collectively.

And that fucking idiot of Carlitos hates his more than 90% Euro ancestry. And you dislike and talk shit about your Spanish ancestry.

[alnortedelsur]

lmao you can feel the butthurt radiating off this post

Yes, sure, I'm so butt hurt, lol

[Carlito's Way]

I would slaughter all the whites in Venezuela, from women to children to men and elders, in front of the world, as revenge for what they committed on this continent, the front viewers will be Amerindians and black Venezuelans, they would be my guest of honor




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[alnortedelsur]

I would slaughter all the whites in Venezuela, from women to children to men and elders, in front of the world, as revenge for what they committed on this continent, the front viewers will be Amerindians and black Venezuelans, they would be my guest of honor




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You're either a self hater, or you lie about being more than 90% Euro, and you're a self-hating mulatto, as Argentano has said.

In any case, I just reported your post, for inciting to genocide.

[Gangrel]

Yes, sure, I'm so butt hurt, lol

You spent god knows how long typing up an essay for some random nigga whos not even going to read it (most of which was bullshit by the way), and now you're pretending it didn't annoy you. Lol shut the fuck up you tard, you think you're fooling children?

[alnortedelsur]

You spent god knows how long typing up an essay for some random nigga whos not even going to read it (most of which was bullshit by the way), and now you're pretending it didn't annoy you. Lol shut the fuck up you tard, you think you're fooling children?

Bull shit is what he said, I just responded to it. And it didn't take me too long to respond to him, since my words to respond to his imbecilities, came up from me spontaneously.


Mind your own business, dumb ass.

[Gangrel]

Bull shit is what he said, and I just responded to it. Mind your own business, ass hole.

I'm not the self hating hypocrite who would exterminate harmless folk because they are black, and I'm the asshole? Every time I read one of your comments I lose brain cells.

I love the "minor SSA" part of your profile btw, even though it's 6% while your Native is 7% and it's somehow not "minor" LOL

[alnortedelsur]

I'm not the self hating hypocrite who would exterminate harmless folk because they are black, and I'm the asshole? Every time I read one of your comments I lose brain cells.

It is obvious that you have reading comprehension problems, since I have never meant to exterminate anybody on any of my posts (on this thread or in any other thread).

Don't worry if you think you lose brain cells. I think there is not much to lose in your case.

PS: and tell that to Carlitos, who hates his white ancestry, and directly talks about exterminating whites.

[Gangrel]

It is obvious that you have reading comprehension problems, since I have never meant to exterminate anybody on any of my posts (on this thread or in any other thread).

Don't worry if you think you lose brain cells. I think there is not much to lose in your case.

Referring to your comment in this thread

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?220605-If-you-could-make-any-country-in-the-world-disappear-with-the-press-of-a-button-which-wld-it-be

You claim it's due to them being a '4th world country' but we all know better.

[alnortedelsur]

Referring to your comment in this thread

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?220605-If-you-could-make-any-country-in-the-world-disappear-with-the-press-of-a-button-which-wld-it-be

You claim it's due to them being a '4th world country' but we all know better.

And I responded to you that I wasn't talking about killing anybody, on that same thread, dumb ass.

[Gangrel]

And I responded to you that I wasn't talking about killing anybody, on that same thread, dumb ass.

We all know better.

[Gangrel]

By the way, 6% is definitely relevant, whether you want to deny it or not

[Costas]

Nigga, if you saw his past post about what he considered white, you'd know he wouldn't have qualified, simply just by his SSA alone, which to him someone with more than 3% SSA would not be considered white

But because he now knows his SSA is 7%, he changes his mind, and it's 7% based on AncestryDNA since on 23andMe, they underestimate the Amerindian and SSA

This is why it had people talking, don't nobody give a fuck at the end of the day, but he needs to stop contradicting himself

This is why he should've done a DNA test before talking

His Venezuelan parent would be more than 7% SSA, but according to him SSA is hard to dilute and anyone with more than 10% SSA would easily show on their phenotype, but since according to him none of his family members how SSA, then things have changed


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Isn't his mum Spanish?

That means his father is like 14% Black.. woah woah woah.

He's gonna want to take back what he said about Black people being lazy and stuff.. otherwise he'd be insulting his own father.

Tough shit.


dude i work for american airlines and have been to 35 countries, do not compare yourself to me when it comes to traveling i will own you, i travel for free dont have to pay shit iv been to europe about 6 times, wanna keep at it and iv been to your damn country too and iv told u about it

and me ugly? yeah sure, thats not what the chicks tell me dude

now you brought up looks i never insulted you on your looks, but since you brought it up you look like a fucking pinguin with that nose of yours and have the body of a chick likely you will have no chance against a real man in a fight i wana see just how easy he will dominate your lil bitch ass, i will fuck you up till u love me bitch

a man who comes all this way in offense like u has alot of problems, i guess when a man lives long enough he sees everythin and imean everything, ppl like u i know so well

mucho hablan, nada hacen

Hahahahaha mate you're bragging about working for American Airlines? Oh my God that's hysterical.

Hahaha and I thought you weren't ghetto??

Learn some fucking English (or Spanish for that matter) you illiterate trashy cunt.

I don't care if you think I look like a penguin (lol), at least I'm not a fat cunt who looks like a transexual with pubes on his chin.

[Costas]

You're either a self hater, or you lie about being more than 90% Euro, and you're a self-hating mulatto, as Argentano has said.

In any case, I just reported your post, for inciting to genocide.

HAHAHAHA YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS :lol:

[Carlito's Way]

You're either a self hater, or you lie about being more than 90% Euro, and you're a self-hating mulatto, as Argentano has said.

In any case, I just reported your post, for inciting to genocide.

Argentino is just upset because he can't find a picture of me anywhere no matter who he begs, the guy he tried so hard to claim was me here is actually some Israeli Jew lmao which I have that niggas pictures saved up and the night club that photo was taken in which was in Israel, which didn't surprise me, I knew that nigga looked middle eastern as hell

The probablemente with you and other mix mutts who want to be white so bad is that you have a hard time believing someone as euro as me can be anti-white because to you whiteness is like a special badge wearing it with honor, it me it isn't the case

I don't hate whites, I actually like southern euros, Russians and Dutch people, especially Russians who I consider the toughest whites in the world, the most fearful whites in this universe

See, there is a difference with liking them and one worshipping them as if they were gods, I don't do that unlike you with whiteness

I also don't agree with their stupid views on people of color here, this is why I talk shit about the white race to give them a taste of their own medicine


Now when you learn to accept yourself as a non-white person, then you'll be much happier instead of trying to be accepted into the white race based on your phenotype alone

Whiteness = purity
And that is something they have always pride themselves in
They don't pride themselves in mutts like you




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[RN97]

Whiteness = purity
And that is something they have always pride themselves in
They don't pride themselves in mutts like you


People tend to believe that, but how do you define purity then? Obviously Europeans differ so then who are the "pure ones"? The ones with more indo-European ancestry? The ones with the most native European HG ancestry? The ones with the most "Caucasoid" ancestry? It's up to the individual. Are Finns (who average around 5% Siberian) white? Are Sicilians (who have a low amount of Euro HG admixture) white? etc. However alnorte is not white (better term is European IMO) racially due to him not being similar to any European people. When he runs his results through a calculator that's designed not only for Europeans (puntDNAL k13 is the calc. here) he gets half Spanish and half Puerto Rican (the sample is mostly Euro though).
https://i.imgur.com/fpruMei.png
However the idea that white= pure is also quite American and you probably have it due to living there. In Australia they wanted to actually "whiten" mixed people by making them breed only with full-whites. I am somewhere in between personally. If you think about it, Alnorte's great grandchildren(granted he and his descendants only mix with pure Spaniards) will basically be Spanish. Obviously such integration works only if people like alnorte do not make up a huge percentage of the host population, but IMO it fully works. Overall if people like him are say.... 2% of Spain's pop, they increase the non-Euro blood by like 0.0000000001% or something like that.

[Costas]

To Alnorte lol:

https://vocaroo.com/i/s16PvMuw8PrR

[Black Panther]

I wonder who is Blacker, Alnorte or Carlitos?

[Kriptc06]

I wonder who is Blacker, Alnorte or Carlitos?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1k1GcZRww

[Carlito's Way]

People tend to believe that, but how do you define purity then? Obviously Europeans differ so then who are the "pure ones"? The ones with more indo-European ancestry? The ones with the most native European HG ancestry? The ones with the most "Caucasoid" ancestry? It's up to the individual. Are Finns (who average around 5% Siberian) white? Are Sicilians (who have a low amount of Euro HG admixture) white? etc. However alnorte is not white (better term is European IMO) racially due to him not being similar to any European people. When he runs his results through a calculator that's designed not only for Europeans (puntDNAL k13 is the calc. here) he gets half Spanish and half Puerto Rican (the sample is mostly Euro though).
https://i.imgur.com/fpruMei.png
However the idea that white= pure is also quite American and you probably have it due to living there. In Australia they wanted to actually "whiten" mixed people by making them breed only with full-whites. I am somewhere in between personally. If you think about it, Alnorte's great grandchildren(granted he and his descendants only mix with pure Spaniards) will basically be Spanish. Obviously such integration works only if people like alnorte do not make up a huge percentage of the host population, but IMO it fully works. Overall if people like him are say.... 2% of Spain's pop, they increase the non-Euro blood by like 0.0000000001% or something like that.

Well these type of calculators are irrelevant to me, because of course Europeans are "mixed" with ancient people from the Middle East, North Africa and such. When I say pure, I mean those with full European ancestors, not recent non-white heritage within 500 years like it's found in many "white" Latinos.

So yes a Finnish would be white just like a Sicilian would because their admixture if very old

Just like a wouldn't consider horn of Africans mix race, their admixture is very old, and to me they are their own people

But a mulatto from Barbados would be mix race to me
So there are differences, ancient admixture is irrelevant to me


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[Carlito's Way]

I wonder who is Blacker, Alnorte or Carlitos?

I am, if my North African is included, plus I'm a Bantu king so yes that makes me blacker and superior than alnorte

I'm more African than him, enough said


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[Black Panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1k1GcZRww

Only difference is one is trying to be as Black as possible while the other wants to be as White as possible.

[Black Panther]

I am, if my North African is included, plus I'm a Bantu king so yes that makes me blacker and superior than alnorte

I'm more African than him, enough said


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Lol. Percentage-wise though, how much of you is SSA? I think I am the Blackest member around since Wadaad is a dark-skinned Caucasoid.

[Carlito's Way]

Only difference is one is trying to be as Black as possible while the other wants to be as White as possible.

Smh I'm not trying to be anything, I'm just proud of my black ancestors and unlike others who have been programmed through colonialism to hate their African ancestors, I honor and worship mine because they never did anything wrongful that I should be ashamed of




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[Black Panther]

Smh I'm not trying to be anything, I'm just proud of my black ancestors and unlike others who have been programmed through colonialism to hate their African ancestors, I honor and worship mine because they never did anything wrongful that I should be ashamed of




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I feel the same way honestly. I hate Latin America's colonial mentality with a passion.

[Carlito's Way]

Lol. Percentage-wise though, how much of you SSA? I think I am the Blackest member around since Wadaad is a dark-skinned Caucasoid.

How black are you? I think you might be the third blackest because we have the Hispanic Caribbeans here and they are around 30 percent ssa

Yeah wadaad is a dark caucasoid


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[Black Panther]

How black are you? I think you might be the third blackest because we have the Hispanic Caribbeans here and they are around 30 percent ssa

Yeah wadaad is a dark caucasoid


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I am around 20~25% SSA.

[Leto]

However alnorte is not white (better term is European IMO) racially due to him not being similar to any European people. When he runs his results through a calculator that's designed not only for Europeans (puntDNAL k13 is the calc. here) he gets half Spanish and half Puerto Rican (the sample is mostly Euro though).
He's not fully European genetically, but he is majority European and looks like a white person. In fact, for Latin America he is among the whitest people out there. He's 87% European on 23andme, very few Latinos are more than that, apart from pockets of South Americans such as Argentines, South Brazilians, etc.

[Leto]

I think I am the Blackest member around since Wadaad is a dark-skinned Caucasoid.
Somalis are at least 50% Sub-Saharan African.

[Black Panther]

Somalis are at least 50% Sub-Saharan African.

Somalis are their own race. Besides, West Africans are the true Blacks imo.

[Leto]

Somalis are their own race.
No. They are a mix of Sub-Saharan Negroids and Arabian-like people. Basically mix a Kenyan with a Saudi and you'll get something similar to Somalis.

[Black Panther]

No. They are a mix of Sub-Saharan Negroids and Arabian-like people. Basically mix a Kenyan with a Saudi and you'll get something similar to Somalis.

They are East African SSA admixed. True Blacks are the West Africans imo.

[RN97]

Well these type of calculators are irrelevant to me, because of course Europeans are "mixed" with ancient people from the Middle East, North Africa and such. When I say pure, I mean those with full European ancestors, not recent non-white heritage within 500 years like it's found in many "white" Latinos.

So yes a Finnish would be white just like a Sicilian would because their admixture if very old

Just like a wouldn't consider horn of Africans mix race, their admixture is very old, and to me they are their own people

But a mulatto from Barbados would be mix race to me
So there are differences, ancient admixture is irrelevant to me


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Not all Europeans have only ancient admixture. Iberians, s. Italians, Russians, Romanians are just examples of Europeans that are typically considered white, but have recent non-Euro admixture. What is also the point of it being recent or not? How can that possibly matter?
On 23andme this Finn would score 100% European
https://i.imgur.com/aU3WM9o.jpg
While an American that's white might score 98.7% European and 1.3% native American and look a lot more like a European. If 23andme decides to create a population counted as European that's "Finnish" and already includes Siberian admixture why does it matter if someone scores basically 100% Finnish? This man for example scored 1.3% SSA
https://youtu.be/Zdw4ozDD2XU?t=4m42s
Would you actually count him as non-white? I doubt it.... Ancient admixture matters because it influences looks just as much as modern one. Siberians and Amerindians are quite similar and having 5% Amerindian is not much different from 5% Siberian. 23andme is designed more towards figuring out ethnicity, not race. That's why it's designed in such a fashion that most European ethnic groups(though not all) already have whatever their admixture is counted as "Finnish", "Iberian" etc. I even seriously doubt that they can indeed pinpoint the admixture to be 500 years old or not. Probably a lot of guesswork involved as well. That's why GEDMatch can be a useful tool. Apparently I have around 1.5-2% south Asian admixture, but I'd never figure that out if I had never used GEDMatch.

[Fustan]

LMAOOOOOO

[Black Panther]

Not all Europeans have only ancient admixture. Iberians, s. Italians, Russians, Romanians are just examples of Europeans that are typically considered white, but have recent non-Euro admixture. What is also the point of it being recent or not? How can that possibly matter?
On 23andme this Finn would score 100% European
https://i.imgur.com/aU3WM9o.jpg
While an American that's white might score 98.7% European and 1.3% native American and look a lot more like a European. If 23andme decides to create a population counted as European that's "Finnish" and already includes Siberian admixture why does it matter if someone scores basically 100% Finnish? This man for example scored 1.3% SSA
https://youtu.be/Zdw4ozDD2XU?t=4m42s
Would you actually count him as non-white? I doubt it.... Ancient admixture matters because it influences looks just as much as modern one. Siberians and Amerindians are quite similar and having 5% Amerindian is not much different from 5% Siberian. 23andme is designed more towards figuring out ethnicity, not race. That's why it's designed in such a fashion that most European ethnic groups(though not all) already have whatever their admixture is counted as "Finnish", "Iberian" etc. I even seriously doubt that they can indeed pinpoint the admixture to be 500 years old or not. Probably a lot of guesswork involved as well. That's why GEDMatch can be a useful tool. Apparently I have around 1.5-2% south Asian admixture, but I'd never figure that out if I had never used GEDMatch.

23andme is only useful for us New World mutts.

[Leto]

Not all Europeans have only ancient admixture. Iberians, s. Italians, Russians, Romanians are just examples of Europeans that are typically considered white, but have recent non-Euro admixture. What is also the point of it being recent or not? How can that possibly matter?
At what point is admixture considered 'recent' in the first place? I'm 4% Siberian on FamilyFinder and around 6-7% Siberian/East Asian on most GEDmatch calcs. However, my parents and grandparents don't have anything Asian in their features. We are not from Siberia, so I don't have any direct admixture from Siberia and the Far East of Russia. My admixture comes from medieval mixing between Slavs and Finnic people, I suppose.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

And that fucking idiot of Carlitos hates his more than 90% Euro ancestry. And you dislike and talk shit about your Spanish ancestry.Hes italian ancestry majorily. He doesnt hate his italian ancestry. Hes not even spanish admixed much. Carlito hates non mexican whites like anglo americans. Not mexican whites.

But you still dislike your black ancestors. If carlito hated his white ancestors thats on him and you still dislike your black ancestors.

I have ancestors that were probably scum bags. So what. My reasons arent snobby like [Im "insert race" so im better than them.]
They were scum bags. They happened to be spaniards too.

[Cristiano viejo]

Hes italian ancestry majorily. He doesnt hate his italian ancestry. Hes not even spanish admixed much. Carlito hates non mexican whites like anglo americans. Not mexican whites.

But you still dislike your black ancestors. If carlito hated his white ancestors thats on him and you still dislike your black ancestors.

I have ancestors that were probably scum bags. So what. My reasons arent snobby like [Im "insert race" so im better than them.]
They were scum bags. They happened to be spaniards too.

They are the only good part of your very big genealogic tree dont complain

[Antimage]

Not all Europeans have only ancient admixture. Iberians, s. Italians, Russians, Romanians are just examples of Europeans that are typically considered white, but have recent non-Euro admixture. What is also the point of it being recent or not? How can that possibly matter?
On 23andme this Finn would score 100% European
https://i.imgur.com/aU3WM9o.jpg
While an American that's white might score 98.7% European and 1.3% native American and look a lot more like a European. If 23andme decides to create a population counted as European that's "Finnish" and already includes Siberian admixture why does it matter if someone scores basically 100% Finnish? This man for example scored 1.3% SSA
https://youtu.be/Zdw4ozDD2XU?t=4m42s
Would you actually count him as non-white? I doubt it.... Ancient admixture matters because it influences looks just as much as modern one. Siberians and Amerindians are quite similar and having 5% Amerindian is not much different from 5% Siberian. 23andme is designed more towards figuring out ethnicity, not race. That's why it's designed in such a fashion that most European ethnic groups(though not all) already have whatever their admixture is counted as "Finnish", "Iberian" etc. I even seriously doubt that they can indeed pinpoint the admixture to be 500 years old or not. Probably a lot of guesswork involved as well. That's why GEDMatch can be a useful tool. Apparently I have around 1.5-2% south Asian admixture, but I'd never figure that out if I had never used GEDMatch.

6% SSA is and 7% Amerindian that alnorte have is completely alien to a white/euro person. People irl don't care about dna however, if he looks white, he will be white. I don't give a shit if he's white or not btw.

[alnortedelsur]

6% SSA is and 7% Amerindian that alnorte have is completely alien to a white/euro person. People irl don't care about dna however, if he looks white, he will be white. I don't give a shit if he's white or not btw.

And I have never claimed to be genetically just like full Europeans, which I am not. I just embrace that I am mostly European descent, by a big margin.

Some people on here (NOT you, and I appreciate your neutral position) don't understand that I have all my right to do so, as a nigga who is 87% SSA and looks like he just stepped out of the Congo, would have all his right to embrace his African heritage. And being the case that I pass as full Euro everywhere I go (on top of being mostly Euro genetically), is natural that I will feel mostly identified with my European background.

Is funny how some people on here, interprets my position as "wanting to be accepted as white", when I just claim that I am mostly European descent. If that's being "white" or not, I don't fucking care.

[Wrong]

Hahaha you're a nibba.

[Rethel]

as a nigga who is 87% SSA and looks like he just stepped out of the Congo, would have all his right to embrace his African heritage.

If he would not be descendent from any african tribe, then he
would not have any right. He would be a fraud and a wannabe.


If that's being "white" or not, I don't fucking care.

But still you are conbstanly talking about it, and showing your quite
butthurtness towards the people, who claim, that you are not white.

[alnortedelsur]

If he would not be descendent from any african tribe, then he
would not have any right. He would be a fraud and a wannabe.

He would not be a wannabe nor a fraud, dumb ass. He would have all his right to feel mostly black, which is what he actually would be.

And shove the African tribe example in your ass. My mom is full Spanish from Spain, which means that I have very recent direct Spanish ancestry (a concrete European ethnicity). So I would be more European, in regards of having direct European ancestry from one of my parents, than somebody that is 87% African but none of his parents is from Africa itself (or from any particular African tribe).



But still you are conbstanly talking about it, and showing your quite
butthurtness towards the people, who claim, that you are not white.

I'm not butt hurt. I am just pissed up that some people think that somebody like me should feel like a mongrel, and don't have any right to embrace the biggest part of my ancestry.

If somebody told me that he doesn't consider me white (because for him being white is being full Euro, or whatever) but he agrees that is valid that I embrace that I am mostly European descent, I would be OK with that (like the user Smitty). But some people on here, keep repeating that I am not white to them, in an attitude of despising me, and treating me like if I wannabe considered white by them. Fuck with you and with all of them.

[Rethel]

He would not be a wannabe nor a fraud, dumb ass.

I see, you want to convinced us, that your behaviour is typical for non-whites... wonderfull.


He would have all his right to feel mostly black, which is what he actually would be.

So does a Papuan can feel Congo too?
If someone has blue eyes, can he rightfully feel swedish becasue of that? :picard2:

Only women care about their appirience, but for her is a simple way to fit t her dream - getting married.
When a guy is talking such nonsense, Idk what to do? Laugh or cry? :picard1:


And shove the African tribe example in your ass.

Very unwhite beheviour... you fit to nonwhites...
And you just proving with every post, that you "I dont care" is laughable.
You care deeply to be white, whatever it takes.


My mom is full Spanish from Spain, which means that I have very recent direct Spanish ancestry

https://media.tenor.com/images/0489fb2f025d80cb993ac1e2712682fa/tenor.gif


(a concrete European ethnicity).

So concrete as the wall. :laugh:
Pity, that you are not a Spaniard...


So I would be more European, in regards of having direct European ancestry from one of your parents,

My parents? :shocked:
What did you smoke today?


than somebody that is 87% African but none of his parents is from Africa itself (or from any particular African tribe).

And what? :picard2:
Appirience does not makes somebody someone.


I'm not butt hurt. I am just pissed up

Oxymoron. How can you write this in one slentence? :picard1:


that some people think that somebody like me should feel like a mongrel,

I do not care how you care - I only say, don;t feel wrongly.


and don't have any right to embrace the biggest part of his ancestry.

As far as these are not your ancestors (what you
just did confess to be true) then they are right.


If somebody told me that he doesn't consider me white

You said you don;t care, and here we are - you constantly are talking about it.
Btw, why do you want to be white, if you are not IE anyway? It has no sense.


(because for him being white is being full Euro, or whatever) but he agrees that is valid that I embrace that I am mostly European descent,

Whiteness is not euqal to being european, neither both are any real identity subjects.


I would be OK with that (like the user Smitty). But some people on here, keep repeating that I am not white to them, in an attitude of despising me, and treating me like if I wannabe considered white by them. Fuck with you and with all of them.

So, do you care or not?
If you do - then it has no sense so they are partialy right,
if you don;t - why are you affended. Can you finally decide
what you want and stick to it?

[alnortedelsur]

I see, you want to convinced us, that your behaviour is typical for non-whites... wonderfull.



So does a Papuan can feel Congo too?
If someone has blue eyes, can he rightfully feel swedish becasue of that? :picard2:

Only women care about their appirience, but for her is a simple way to fit t her dream - getting married.
When a guy is talking such nonsense, Idk what to do? Laugh or cry? :picard1:



Very unwhite beheviour... you fit to nonwhites...
And you just proving with every post, that you "I dont care" is laughable.
You care deeply to be white, whatever it takes.



https://media.tenor.com/images/0489fb2f025d80cb993ac1e2712682fa/tenor.gif



So concrete as the wall. :laugh:
Pity, that you are not a Spaniard...



My parents? :shocked:
What did you smoke today?



And what? :picard2:
Appirience does not makes somebody someone.



Oxymoron. How can you write this in one slentence? :picard1:



I do not care how you care - I only say, don;t feel wrongly.



As far as these are not your ancestors (what you
just did confess to be true) then they are right.



You said you don;t care, and here we are - you constantly are talking about it.
Btw, why do you want to be white, if you are not IE anyway? It has no sense.



Whiteness is not euqal to being european, neither both are any real identity subjects.



So, do you care or not?
If you do - then it has no sense so they are partialy right,
if you don;t - why are you affended. Can you finally decide
what you want and stick to it?

I did't even read all of your shit. If I am repeating myself is because I am responding to the obtuse posters like you that keep on attacking me.

When people talk shit about me, misinterpreting everything of what I say as wannaberism, you cannot pretend that I stay quiet.



As far as these are not your ancestors (what you
just did confess to be true) then they are right.

I meant the biggest part of MY ancestry, NOT his ancestry. That was a typo. I didn't "confess" to be mostly African :picard1:, lol

[alnortedelsur]

We all know better.

You don't know a shit


By the way, 6% is definitely relevant, whether you want to deny it or not

If you call "relevant" to a 6% SSA against 87% European and 7% Amerindian... OK :rolleyes:

And if we go by that, my European ancestry is much more relevant, but the bunch of idiots that keep on attacking me don't say anything about it.

[alnortedelsur]

Isn't his mum Spanish?

That means his father is like 14% Black.. woah woah woah.

He's gonna want to take back what he said about Black people being lazy and stuff.. otherwise he'd be insulting his own father.

Tough shit.



Are you retarded like Carlitos, or what? I'm 6% SSA on Ancestry DNA, NOT 7%. And this is the third time that I say this to you :picard1:

Then my dad would be 12% SSA NOT 14%. And he doesn't show it on his phenotype.

[alnortedelsur]

Argentino is just upset because he can't find a picture of me anywhere no matter who he begs, the guy he tried so hard to claim was me here is actually some Israeli Jew lmao which I have that niggas pictures saved up and the night club that photo was taken in which was in Israel, which didn't surprise me, I knew that nigga looked middle eastern as hell

The probablemente with you and other mix mutts who want to be white so bad is that you have a hard time believing someone as euro as me can be anti-white because to you whiteness is like a special badge wearing it with honor, it me it isn't the case

I don't hate whites, I actually like southern euros, Russians and Dutch people, especially Russians who I consider the toughest whites in the world, the most fearful whites in this universe

See, there is a difference with liking them and one worshipping them as if they were gods, I don't do that unlike you with whiteness

I also don't agree with their stupid views on people of color here, this is why I talk shit about the white race to give them a taste of their own medicine


Now when you learn to accept yourself as a non-white person, then you'll be much happier instead of trying to be accepted into the white race based on your phenotype alone

Whiteness = purity
And that is something they have always pride themselves in
They don't pride themselves in mutts like you




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You talked TWICE about slaughtering white Venezuelans, and you say that you don't hate whites?!?!:picard1:

And I accept myself as what I am: A mostly Euro descent person with some minor non-European admixture, not an Hugo Chavez like mongrel.

I had no problem in showing my genetic results just like what they are (with my SSA, Amerindian and everything).

And I have repeated ad nausea that I am also very proud of my Amerindian mixture, and have even opened threads about Amerindians, and have proudly shown pictures of Amerindians from my native country.

And I don't "worship" being white or being European, I just embrace that I am mostly European descent.

I don't understand what's the big deal of embracing what is most of my ancestry? really :picard1:

[Rethel]

I did't even read all of your shit. If I am repeating myself is because I am responding to the obtuse posters like you that keep on attacking me.

And where did I attack you? :picard2:


When people talk shit about me, misinterpreting everything of what I say as wannaberism, you cannot pretend that I stay quiet.

And where I said here previously, that you are wannabe?


I meant the biggest part of MY ancestry, NOT his ancestry. That was a typo. I didn't "confess" to be mostly African :picard1:, lol

No, but you said that most of your ascendants are Spaniards and that
they make you one of them - what is obviously a nonsense and wannabeism.

Even if you really want us to convinst, that you are mentaly castrated
henpecked pantywaist (as majority of TAtards), it will not make you a Spaniard.

[Kriptc06]

If I were you id take a picture holding the spanish passport and flipping everyone, you are a citizen, nothing else matters.

[alnortedelsur]

And where did I attack you? :picard2:



And where I said here previously, that you are wannabe?

Yes sure, you're not attacking me, and treating me like a wannabe :rolleyes:




No, but you said that most of your ascendants are Spaniards and that
they make you one of them - what is obviously a nonsense and wannabeism.

Even if you really want us to convinst, that you are mentaly castrated
henpecked pantywaist (as majority of TAtards), it will not make you a Spaniard.

I have said that most of my background is Spanish (aside of being son of a full Spanish mom), but not that I am like a full Spanish person. Stop putting words on my mouth.

Is just natural that I feel a strong kinship with them, and then, with Europeans and full European descent people in general, without meaning with it, that I am one of them.

[Rethel]

Yes sure, you're not attacking me, and treating me like a wannabe :rolleyes:

I ask about previously - I just said you are wannabe when you
said, about your ascendants. Earlier - what you reffered to - not.


I have said that most

There is no most.
Either you are or not.


of my background is Spanish (aside of being son of a full Spanish mom),

But it doesn not make you a spanish. :picard2:


but not that I am like a full Spanish person. Stop putting words on my mouth.

I do not putting, becasue there is no such thing as full or not full.
Either you are or not. You are obviously not. Especially, that if I am
remember correctly you aren an Italian. Now we know that from the
ME, so, the more reasons to not be a Spaniard. You have no spanish
roots, your ancestors did not emerged in Spain, you dont beling to
any spanish family, neither you have such ancestors. In addition
you live in Ohio and you personaly came from Venezuela. So, what
makes you spanish? If you have a passpost - ok, but it does not
make you inheretibly spanish, neither shows any real bond with
Spain as long as you do not live there. But anyway, we are not
talking here about citizenship or place of habitation, so you are
not spanish at all in the terms of inheritance. None.


Is just natural that I feel a strong kinship with them,

No, it is a perversion.


and then, with Europeans and full European descent people in general, without meaning with it, that I am one of them.

But not spanish.
And anyway it is irrelevant, as you are originaly from ME.
Repeating constantly that you are from europe changes nothing.
Everyday thousands of negros became Europeans - and what?
Does it change the fact, that they are Negros?

[alnortedelsur]

I ask about previously - I just said you are wannabe when you
said, about your ascendants. Earlier - what you reffered to - not.



There is no most.
Either you are or not.

NOT. Things are not only black or white. The world doesn't work like that, but more like a gradation. And in that set of hues I am much closer to full Europeans (without meaning that I want to be full Euro like them) than to people like Hugo Chavez. I am much closer to them not only in looks, but also by things in common, like having same culture and values, and in being able to adapt much better to their societies than to people like Hugo Chavez.


But it doesn not make you a spanish. :picard2:

Again, I am not one of them, but I am very akin to them in all senses.



I do not putting, becasue there is no such thing as full or not full.
Either you are or not. You are obviously not. Especially, that if I am
remember correctly you aren an Italian. Now we know that from the
ME, so, the more reasons to not be a Spaniard. You have no spanish
roots, your ancestors did not emerged in Spain, you dont beling to
any spanish family, neither you have such ancestors. In addition
you live in Ohio and you personaly came from Venezuela. So, what
makes you spanish? If you have a passpost - ok, but it does not
make you inheretibly spanish, neither shows any real bond with
Spain as long as you do not live there. But anyway, we are not
talking here about citizenship or place of habitation, so you are
not spanish at all in the terms of inheritance. None.

My ancestors from my mom's side (including my own mom) are all from Spain, and my Venezuelan dad has a lot of Colonial Spanish ancestry, and some Italian, and I am not making that up. Then, most of my ancestry comes from Europe, as my DNA tests show. Like it or not.

I live in Ohio, and I was born and grew up in Venezuela, but I also lived in Spain, and became citizen (but that's not relevant, because that's just documents) and have a lot of ancestry from there, so I have all my right to feel strong ties with Spain.


No, it is a perversion.[

Is not a perversion, is just claiming my true heritage (which I don't deny that also includes some Amerindian and some SSA).



But not spanish.
And anyway it is irrelevant, as you are originaly from ME.

My autosomal results are way more important than my paternal Halogroup. And if we go by that, my maternal halogroup (H) is very European.


Repeating constantly that you are from europe changes nothing.
Everyday thousands of negros became Europeans - and what?
Does it change the fact, that they are Negros?

I don't say I am from Europe, but just that I am mostly of European stock (be it "white" or not).

And please don't compare me to negros who become European. There are light years of difference between me and them.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

They are the only good part of your very big genealogic tree dont complainMost of them were scum bags.

[alnortedelsur]

Most of them were scum bags.

There we go. You hate your Spanish ancestors.

[Rethel]

NOT. Things are not only black or white.

Yes, they are.
Only for wannabes are not.
So do not be shocked, that people see you like that.


The world doesn't work like that,

Yes, it does. Only ignorants do not know this.


but more like a gradation. And in that set of hues I am much closer to full Europeans (without meaning that I want to be full Euro like them)

But it is really irrelevant to who you are closer by your look.
Noone cares. Only you, like a woman. :picard1:


like having same values,

No, you definitly have not the same values as Europeans.
If you would have, you wouldn't be saying what you are saying.
You would agree with me if you would share the same euro values.


Again, I am not one of them, but I am very akin to them in all senses.

Similarity doesn;t matter.


My ancestors from my mom's side (including my own mom) are all from Spain,

Doesn;t matter.
These are you mother's ancestors and family - not your.
But if you insist on being mentaly castrated henpecked pantywaise,
then you insist to not have any respect for you. Do you?


dad has a lot of

Don;t make from your father a bunch of meat.
It is enaugh that you are ashaming yourself.


and have a lot of ancestry from there, so I have all my right to feel strong ties with Spain.

By living and papers - but you have none birth right.


Is not a perversion, is just claiming my true heritage

The problem is, that you don't.


My autosomal results are way more important

Your neighbour can be more important for you if you want, but it has any
affect on, what people will think about it, and about your peovenances
and what the real provenance of your is.


And if we go by that, my maternal halogroup (H) is very European.

:picard2:

You really insist to have no respect for you.


And please don't compare me to negros who become European. There are light years of difference between me ant them.

But they are european.
Some of them were born here since 10-15 generations...

[alnortedelsur]

Yes, they are.
Only for wannabes are not.
So do not be shocked, that people see you like that.



Yes, it does. Only ignorants do not know this.



But it is really irrelevant to who you are closer by your look.
Noone cares. Only you, like a woman. :picard1:



No, you definitly have not the same values as Europeans.
If you would have, you wouldn't be saying what you are saying.
You would agree with me if you would share the same euro values.



Similarity doesn;t matter.



Doesn;t matter.
These are you mother's ancestors and family - not your.
But if you insist on being mentaly castrated henpecked pantywaise,
then you insist to not have any respect for you. Do you?



Don;t make from your father a bunch of meat.
It is enaugh that you are ashaming yourself.



By living and papers - but you have none birth right.



The problem is, that you don't.



Your neighbour can be more important for you if you want, but it has any
affect on, what people will think about it, and about your peovenances
and what the real provenance of your is.



:picard2:

You really insist to have no respect for you.



But they are european.
Some of them were born here since 10-15 generations...

The family of my mom is part of my family. Not less than half of my whole ancestry, to be more exact. Like it or not.

And stop assuming that all Europeans think like you, and that that's the European mentality.

I meant that I have their same mentality in the way they see life (including sharing same cultural tastes, and in many different aspects, not only in what is being discussed here), and in being on behalf of their preservation, but without going to ridiculous one drop rule extremes, like you.

[Rethel]

The family of my mom is part of my family.

But you are not a part of that the Family.
Aren't you aware that the word family has couple of meanings?
In it's basic meaning does not mean "people close to me".

The fact, that some mother's relatives are close
to you, yet not make you a part of her Family.

Btw, the very fact, that you use the childlish word for your mother
witness, that you are totaly not mature to lead such disscussions.


Not less than half of my whole ancestry, to be more exact. Like it or not.

And what? They are not your ancestors, yet-man, but your mother's.
Are you your own mother, that you claim them? :picard2:


And stop assuming that all Europeans think like you, and that that's the European mentality.

I do not care what average european pleb thinks, I was talking about
european culture and values to which you yourself did refer. Obviously,
you have no idea what are you talking about, so, stop better be talking
about things you have no idea about, and go educate yourself.


I meant that I have their same mentality in the way they see life (including sharing same cultural tastes, and in many different aspects, not only in what is being discussed here),

And what? If I will have such mentality and way of life, will I be an inheritable Spaniard too? :picard1:


and in being on behalf of their preservation,

The what? You can the same way like chinese culture, but it does not make you a Chinese.


but without going to ridiculous one drop rule extremes, like you.

And where I did say it? :picard2:

[Cristiano viejo]

Most of them were scum bags.

You descend of scumbags.
And even so they were the best part of your ancestors. At least they were Alpha.

[alnortedelsur]

But you are not a part of that the Family.
Aren't you aware that the word family has couple of meanings?
In it's basic meaning does not mean "people close to me".

The fact, that some mother's relatives are close
to you, yet not make you a part of her Family.

I don't know what do you mean when you say that my mom's family, is not part of my family. Then my Spanish maternal grandma (RIP) wasn't part of my family, being my own grandma?:picard1: or the father of my mom (RIP) was not part of my family either??

And if you mean that your concept of family only includes mom, dad, siblings, and children, then my mom, who IS full Spanish, is part of MY family in its most basic meaning.

Is just natural that anybody that is child of a parent of X nationality, feels close to the nationality of his/her parent of that X nationality. There is not any wannaberism in that.

I find it really funny how when somebody who is a child of an Italian father and a French mother (to put an example), feels close to both Italian and French people, that's fine and nobody criticize him/her for that, but if somebody that is not full European, but is a child of a parent, who is full native of certain European nationality, such person is criticized and judged as wannabe for feeling close to the nationality of his/her European parent. And in my case we are not talking about a mulatto, triracial, or mestizo who is only 50% Euro, but about somebody who is more than 87% European by genetics.


Btw, the very fact, that you use the childlish word for your mother
witness, that you are totaly not mature to lead such disscussions.

If I bring up that my mom is full native Spanish, is to show that you're not talking to an X typical mixed Latin American fancy boy, with not direct links to Europe, who wants to pose as being very linked to Europe, only based of having an indirect and uncertain European background. Then, bringing that my own mom is full European from Europe, is relevant to the discussion with somebody who pretends that I am as much alien to Europeans as a Chinese.


And what? They are not your ancestors, yet-man, but your mother's.
Are you your own mother, that you claim them? :picard2:

My mother's ancestors ARE also my ancestors, just like my father's ancestors are my ancestors too. I don't know what the fuck you mean.



I do not care what average european pleb thinks, I was talking about
european culture and values to which you yourself did refer. Obviously,
you have no idea what are you talking about, so, stop better be talking
about things you have no idea about, and go educate yourself.

Are you fucking kidding me?

My mom, though she was brought to Venezuela when she was still a child, was raised by her Spanish parents, and then my mom raised me and my siblings. How the hell you pretend that my idiosyncrasy and way of thinking was not influenced by the European values and mentality, in any way??

And even my Venezuelan dad, despite of not being son of an European mother or father, he still shares those same values and mentality, I guess, because he has a lot of European ancestry (even if he is far from being full white) and he got those values transmitted from generation by generation up to him. He is grand grand son of an Italian immigrant.

And I talk about values like working hard to achieve your goals and not living at the expenses of the governments; handling family relations in a similar way as in the European homeland, having Western cultural tastes that are commonly shared not only by Europeans from Europe, but by full or mostly Euro descent people abroad, like classic music, rock music, having some interest on philosophy, love reading (each of these, depending on the person, of course)... IDK, many details like that. It's hard to explain because it covers many aspects of life, but I can feel it, because I feel like in home when surrounded by white people, or being in places where whites are the norm, NOT because I wannabe like them, but because I feel that I see life from the same prism as them.


And what? If I will have such mentality and way of life, will I be an inheritable Spaniard too? :picard1:

Not, but I didn't acquired that mentality and way of life by casualty, but because it was transmitted to me by my Spanish mom, and indirectly from my dad, who also mostly descend from European ancestors.



The what? You can the same way like chinese culture, but it does not make you a Chinese.

I am on behalf of the preservation of all human races. But I am very on behalf of the preservation of European and Euro descent people in particular, because I want the preservation of the people who my mom belongs to, and from whom most of my ancestry comes from (like it or not), NOT for being a fan of them, like somebody who likes Chinese culture and has nothing to do with Chinese people, lol.


And where I did say it? :picard2:

And you still ask?? when you haven't stopped despising me for not being a full European born and raised in Europe, when you say that I don't have any right to feel any kinship with Europeans and full Euro descent people??

[Smitty]

I don't know what do you mean when you say that my mom's family, is not part of my family. Then my Spanish maternal grandma (RIP) wasn't part of my family, being my own grandma?:picard1: or the father of my mom (RIP) was not part of my family either??

And if you mean that your concept of family only includes mom, dad, siblings, and children, then my mom, who IS full Spanish, is part of MY family in its most basic meaning.

Is just natural that anybody that is child of a parent of X nationality, feels close to the nationality of his/her parent of that X nationality. There is not any wannaberism in that.

I find it really funny how when somebody who is a child of an Italian father and a French mother (to put an example), feels close to both Italian and French people, that's fine and nobody criticize him/her for that, but if somebody that is not full European, but is a child of a parent, who is full native of certain European nationality, such person is criticized and judged as wannabe for feeling close to the nationality of his/her European parent. And in my case we are not talking about a mulatto, triracial, or mestizo who is only 50% Euro, but about somebody who is more than 87% European by genetics.



If I bring up that my mom is full native Spanish, is to show that you're not talking to an X typical mixed Latin American fancy boy, with not direct links to Europe, who wants to pose as being very linked to Europe, only based of having an indirect and uncertain European background. Then, bringing that my own mom is full European from Europe, is relevant to the discussion with somebody who pretends that I am as much alien to Europeans as a Chinese.



My mother's ancestors ARE also my ancestors, just like my father's ancestors are my ancestors too. I don't know what the fuck you mean.




Are you fucking kidding me?

My mom, though she was brought to Venezuela when she was still a child, was raised by her Spanish parents, and then my mom raised me and my siblings. How the hell you pretend that my idiosyncrasy and way of thinking was not influenced by the European values and mentality, in any way??

And even my Venezuelan dad, despite of not being son of an European mother or father, he still share those same values and mentality, I guess, because he has a lot of European ancestry (even if he is far from being full white) and he got those values transmitted from generation by generation up to him. He is grand grand son of an Italian immigrant.

And I talk about values like working hard to achieve your goals and not living at the expenses of the governments; handling family relations in a similar way as in the European homeland, having Western cultural tastes that are commonly shared not only by Europeans from Europe, but by full or mostly Euro descent people abroad, like classic music, rock music, having some interest on philosophy, love reading (each of these, depending on the person, of course)... IDK, many details like that. Is hard to explain because it covers many aspects of life, but I can feel it, because I feel like in home when surrounded by white people, or being in places where whites are the norm, NOT because I wannabe like them, but because I feel that I see life from the same prism as them.

People like you, in your big ignorance, think that in countries like Venezuela, all the people are scummy and dependent of the gifts of the government in turn, like the bunch of triracials and mulattoes followers of Chavism-Madurism, only likes tropical music, etc... but NOT. There are also many middle to upper class Venezuelans who are children or grand children of recent European immigrants who are NOT like that, and many of them leave the country because they're sick of seeing their country being destroyed by the scummy people with third world mentality like Maduro and his followers. Those Venezuelans with very recent European ancestry (full or not, and me included) feel like in home in places like Spain, Italy, France, Argentina, etc, because they share many things in common with those populations, and feel more in common with them (not only racially, but also in mentality, and culturally) than with the chavist/madurist scummy mass.

So, is me who tells you to go and educate yourself.



Not, but I didn't acquired that mentality and way of life by casualty, but because it was transmitted to me by my Spanish mom, and indirectly from my dad, who also mostly descend from European ancestors.




I am on behalf of the preservation of all human races. But I am very on behalf of the preservation of European and Euro descent people in particular, because I want the preservation of the people who my mom belongs to, and from whom most of my ancestry comes from (like it or not), NOT for being a fan of them, like somebody who likes Chinese culture and has nothing to do with Chinese people, lol.



And you still ask?? when you haven't stopped despising me for not being a full European born and raised in Europe, when you say that I don't have any right to feel any kinship with Europeans and full Euro descent people??

I'll save you some time and tell you that Rethel considers only your patrilineal line worthy of consideration. That's his worldview, and he couldn't be further from a purist.

[alnortedelsur]

I'll save you some time and tell you that Rethel considers only your patrilineal line worthy of consideration. That's his worldview, and he couldn't be further from a purist.

I suspected something like that. Now everything makes more sense to me.

[Rethel]

I suspected something like that. Now everything makes more sense to me.

What is to suspection, if I always am saying the same.
You just do not read what is written to you or what?

[Rethel]

I'll save you some time and tell you that Rethel considers only your patrilineal line worthy of consideration. That's his worldview, and he couldn't be further from a purist.

So now explain me, how exists any other than paternal line?

To which other line you belong, how this "line" is called, what
name it bears, what is the nest of this line, what coat this line
have, and how it is unbroken line and what is the story of it,
and how do you represent the founder of this other line(s)??

[Cristiano viejo]

So now explain me, how exists any other than paternal line?

To which other line you belong, how this "line" is called, what
name it bears, what is the nest of this line, what coat this line
have, and how it is unbroken line and what is the story of it,
and how do you represent the founder of this other line(s)??

No that I consider alnortedelsur as Spanish, I dont... but why did you consider Michelle Jenner as Spanish even when I told you her mother is French then?

[Rethel]

but why did you consider Michelle Jenner as Spanish even when I told you her mother is French then?

I never said, that I consider her spanish ancestrally, but she has spanish citizenship
and lives in Spain, so I consider her Spainlander. And women are changeable anyway.
When she will marry a Spaniard, she will be 100% spanish regardless ius soli or sanguinis.

But Adolouscer does not live in Spain, is from Italy, and
he himself is admitting that his spanishness is paperic.

This one is for example a Polanderess also, and bothered me not at all.
But she obviously is not "descendent" from legendary Lech so cannot
be consider native, the same as me... until she married :)
If her father would be a Pole, I would say she is 100% native, as I am
saying about Poles from western Hispaniola (and as anybody see them too).

http://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/HlYktkpTURBXy9kMmE5Yjk1MjU1MzQ5MzFkZDU0NmRkM2UxYWQ xNjFmZi5qcGeRkwIAzQHk

[Smitty]

So now explain me, how exists any other than paternal line?

To which other line you belong, how this "line" is called, what
name it bears, what is the nest of this line, what coat this line
have, and how it is unbroken line and what is the story of it,
and how do you represent the founder of this other line(s)??

I don't claim to belong to any other line, only to descend from all my ancestors, whatever their relation to me. You discount them entirely. I do not. But this is really off-topic.

[Tobi]

Damn, Alnorte, you are very mixed for someone racist as you xD

[Cristiano viejo]

Damn, Alnorte, you are very mixed for someone racist as you xD

Humm, it is not question about racism. He just defends that in Spain the immigrants should not remain.

Let say we Spaniards are all super mixed, we look like Somalians and whatever. Still we have, or should have, the right to not wanting foreigners, dont you think?

[Cristiano viejo]

Damn, Alnorte, you are very mixed for someone racist as you xD

Humm, it is not question about racism. He just defends that in Spain the immigrants should not remain.

Let say we Spaniards are all super mixed, we look like Somalians and whatever. Still we have, or should have, the right to not wanting foreigners, dont you think?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

You descend of scumbags.
And even so they were the best part of your ancestors. At least they were Alpha.Yes my spanish ancestors were scum bags. Except ones past 1840. Most were probably scum bags before 1840
They were not the best neither. My paternal line isnt spanish neither. Ydna isnt spanish.

[Leto]

Damn, Alnorte, you are very mixed for someone racist as you xD
Yet he is more European than someone else here...

[Dominicanese]

Isn't his mum Spanish?

That means his father is like 14% Black.. woah woah woah.

He's gonna want to take back what he said about Black people being lazy and stuff.. otherwise he'd be insulting his own father.

Tough shit.



Hahahahaha mate you're bragging about working for American Airlines? Oh my God that's hysterical.

Hahaha and I thought you weren't ghetto??

Learn some fucking English (or Spanish for that matter) you illiterate trashy cunt.

I don't care if you think I look like a penguin (lol), at least I'm not a fat cunt who looks like a transexual with pubes on his chin.

dude chillout

coñazo que el diablo te pasa? muchacho freco coño

you got offended over something that possibly wasnt directly to you

then u wonder y u get in so many fights, tu si pelea mucho aqui pero enverdad eres un flojo y se te nota bastante

tu eres mas feo que el diablo mismo, mal bao parece como un enfermo to asi gofiao

[Costas]

dude chillout

coñazo que el diablo te pasa? muchacho freco coño

you got offended over something that possibly wasnt directly to you

then u wonder y u get in so many fights, tu si pelea mucho aqui pero enverdad eres un flojo y se te nota bastante

tu eres mas feo que el diablo mismo, mal bao parece como un enfermo to asi gofiao

Flojo??? Do you even fucking know what that means??

Nice fucking hat btw you little ridiculous piece of shit

[Dominicanese]

Flojo??? Do you even fucking know what that means??

Nice fucking hat btw you little ridiculous piece of shit

hahaha

not gonna lie that was pretty good you fucking moron

[Costas]

hahaha

not gonna lie that was pretty good you fucking moron

Whatever mate I'm still smarter, hotter and richer than you are :)

[Dominicanese]

Whatever mate I'm still smarter, hotter and richer than you are :)

hotter? definitely not, i dont judge men like a fag such as yourself

smarter? nope, otherwise u would have better comebacks and not high school ones

richer? yeah maybe, unlike u i dont need money to survive and get my needs i travel alot for free and i have everything i want for now

[Costas]

hotter? definitely not, i dont judge men like a fag such as yourself

smarter? nope, otherwise u would have better comebacks and not high school ones

richer? yeah maybe, unlike u i dont need money to survive and get my needs i travel alot for free and i have everything i want for now

If you don't judge men then why do you "definitely not"? Like that's literally a judgment...

And about your comebacks :lol:

[Carlito's Way]

Lmaooo @ costas and dominicanese comebacks


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[RN97]

Awww sheeeit, mulatto and mestizo fight!

[Dominicanese]

Awww sheeeit, mulatto and mestizo fight!

lol

[Dominicanese]

If you don't judge men then why do you "definitely not"? Like that's literally a judgment...

And about your comebacks :lol:

better than yours maricon :thumb001:

[Costas]

Awww sheeeit, mulatto and mestizo fight!

You can jump in so we've got a gypsy


better than yours maricon :thumb001:

Yeah go shave those pubes under your chin

[RN97]

You can jump in so we've got a gypsy



Yeah go shave those pubes under your chin

Relax Juan, I'm not the brown little gay guy here, mmkay?

[Dominicanese]

You can jump in so we've got a gypsy



Yeah go shave those pubes under your chin

the funny thing is, my chin is actually straight/wavy hairs and brown (light brown under lighting), you gotta get your eyes checked little mestizo boy

btw i hope u know what pubes are cause from i can tell u proly have to shave it to find your dick

[Costas]

Relax Juan, I'm not the brown little gay guy here, mmkay?

I'm relaxed Django.. am I the brown little gay guy? :lol:

No worries mate, you've got it hard enough being a working-class half-Balkanic living in Norway.. so I'm gonna give you a free pass alright? :)

[Costas]

the funny thing is, my chin is actually straight/wavy hairs and brown (light brown under lighting), you gotta get your eyes checked little mestizo boy

btw i hope u know what pubes are cause from i can tell u proly have to shave it to find your dick

"From what I can tell"?? What can you tell and why are you even talking about my cock? I thought I was the gay one...

Also good luck calling me "little Mestizo boy" haha that's not gonna change the fact that you look Black (which isn't even good or bad) and I look Mediterranean

[RN97]

I'm relaxed Django.. am I the brown little gay guy? :lol:

No worries mate, you've got it hard enough being a working-class half-Balkanic living in Norway.. so I'm gonna give you a free pass alright? :)

Well, you sorta look gay and I see that I'm not the only one to find that out. You don't mention my other side for some reason, but I've never been ashamed of being half-Romanian nor being working class (which in Norway is being richer than 80% of Chileans). However you don't seem to content with what you are, lol. "Mediterranean looking". You're like around 40% amerindian if I recall correctly and it shows.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Well, you sorta look gay and I see that I'm not the only one to find that out. You don't mention my other side for some reason, but I've never been ashamed of being half-Romanian nor being working class (which in Norway is being richer than 80% of Chileans). However you don't seem to content with what you are, lol. "Mediterranean looking". You're like around 40% amerindian if I recall correctly and it shows.He doesnt look mestizo if thats him in the middle of his profile pick. He looks polish a bit and spanish mostly. (Northen spanish)

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Dominicanese is more masculine thats true.

[Cristiano viejo]

He doesnt look mestizo if thats him in the middle of his profile pick. He looks polish a bit and spanish mostly. (Northen spanish)

hahahahahaha

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

hahahahahaha?

[Kouros]

He's not white period. He can identify as a "white latino", but that would destroy the meaning of white... White= Someone of European decent. There are some admixture you can have, but IMO even 5% is stretching it. 15+% is just not white at all. I haven't seen a clear photo of him, but I told him before this test that he didn't look fully European to me based upon a unclear photo of him I saw. He admitted before this test that he did indeed have amerindian admixture so I just figured that it was the reason. The photo was to unclear for me to pinpoint SSA so IDK. At around 5-6% SSA, he might have no visible SSA, it's happened before.
On a different note, this forum has thought me that Latin America is sort of a warning of the dangers of mixing relating to identity issues and inferiority complexes...

White = Germanic/Nordid phenotype. Everybody else should be proud to be whatever other nationality they are. That's just how I see it anyway...

[Cristiano viejo]

?

According the expert: Chileans look like Spanish and real Spanish dont look Spanish but Italian :laugh:

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

According the expert: Chileans look like Spanish and real Spanish dont look Spanish but Italian [emoji23]I said he was atypical. And the chilean looks spanish but polish mixed or something.

[RN97]

I said he was atypical. And the chilean looks spanish but polish mixed or something.

Try Amerindian buddy.

[Cristiano viejo]

I said he was atypical. And the chilean looks spanish but polish mixed or something.

Try Amerindian buddy.

[Rethel]

I don't know what do you mean when you say that my mom's family, is not part of my family.

So, look into the dictionary.
It is not my fault, that english is a poor language, and that
you neither understand the word in all of his meaning neither
you was taught proper values at home/scholl etc. European
I mean, to which you referred.

And I allready said couple of times to you, that I did not use
that word in the meaning of closeness to you. It should give
you some idea what is talking about.

Sometimes really, I have the feeling that
I am talking with people of special care.


Then my Spanish maternal grandma (RIP) wasn't part of my family, being my own grandma?:picard1: or the father of my mom (RIP) was not part of my family either??

Of course they weren't the part of the family.
Adult man, who through decades didn;t know that... :picard1:
I knew it when I was 4 years old, not fourty like you.


And if you mean that your concept of family only includes mom, dad, siblings, and children, then my mom, who IS full Spanish, is part of MY family in its most basic meaning.

:picard2:

I really do not have power to talk with you? I know that American are usually laught for their
stupidness, but I thought, that someone who is inteligent enugh to make DNA test is a little wiser.
You do not even know basic social concepts, history, culture and meaning of words.


Is just natural that anybody that is child of a parent of X nationality, feels close to the nationality of his/her parent of that X nationality. There is not any wannaberism in that.

Ok, so logicaly you should feel Italian, not spanish, as you the parent was an Italian.


I find it really funny how when somebody who is a child of an Italian father and a French mother (to put an example), feels close to both Italian and French people,
But it is not your case. You put your italianness into trash.


that's fine and nobody criticize him/her for that, but if somebody that is not full European, but is a child of a parent, who is full native of certain European nationality, such person is criticized and judged as wannabe for feeling close to the nationality of his/her European parent.

No, is not, I don;t know whom you read, but certainly not me.
You are a wannabe, becasue you want to be spanish not having any nacestral ties to it.


And in my case we are not talking about a mulatto, triracial, or mestizo who is only 50% Euro, but about somebody who is more than 87% European by genetics.

I do not care. about you stupid percentages, and I did not say (probably) anything about them.
You can be even 100% white, and still you will not be Spaniard.


If I bring up that my mom is full native Spanish,

So, good for her.
What it has to do with you? :picard1:


is to show that you're not talking to an X typical mixed Latin American fancy boy, with not direct links to Europe,

Where did I deny your direct link to Europe? WHERE!!!
can you stop speak with fictional me. It begins to be very annoing.


who wants to pose as being very linked to Europe, only based of having an indirect and uncertain European background. Then, bringing that my own mom is full European from Europe, is relevant to the discussion with somebody who pretends that I am as much alien to Europeans as a Chinese.

The what? :confused: :picard1:


My mother's ancestors ARE also my ancestors, just like my father's ancestors are my ancestors too.

No, they are not, becasue you do not belong to two families,
the same as you do not belong to four families of your granns,
to eight of your greatgranns, to sicteen aso... as long as you
are not a delusionist, idiot ot schizophrenic. Are you?


I don't know what the fuck you mean.

And this is the problem, that you do not understand eurolanguage.
The talk with you is like with a person from the forest, but I presume,
that even Bushmen are more civilized than you. MENA people certainly
are, and even with Somalis I have no problems to understand each other.
But with you, who claim to be european, I feel like I am talking with total
alien, who cannot grasp even very basics of european culture.

If you had not any natural instinct in your brain, if you were not taught by
your parents, if you was not focusing in the sunday school, if you do not
even was able to learn at school - then you should replenish your shortages
of upbringing and education on your own. You obviously didn't, and the result
is, that you are trying to fit to the sphere of life and judge it, not understanding
it at all, and not being even able to understand, if you do not even know the
basic meaning of the words wich you are using, and concepts which are you
talking about. You are talking about Family, but you do not know, what the
word means. At least you could learn from the Game of Thrones in TV, insted
of picking up the dictionary, but it seems even this was to hard for you. You
are talking about ancestors, but you do not even know, who the ancestor is,
and you despise you won forefathers. So, what you want to offer me?

Some henpecked sissi pantywaist pulp for three years old whoresons? Really? :picard1:


Are you fucking kidding me?

I was for a long time thinking, that you are doing this, but obviously you not.
You simply either are so deeply deprived of any idea, of you are doing this
purpously - shitting yourself. But why? You can only hurt yourself and yor
own children, not me. Lets assume, that you don;t care about yourself,
and hate your father (do you?) but you really want to harm your children?


My mom, though she was brought to Venezuela when she was still a child, was raised by her Spanish parents, and then my mom raised me and my siblings. How the hell you pretend that my idiosyncrasy and way of thinking was not influenced by the European values and mentality, in any way??

you did not even understand the term "european values'.
You really think, that "european values" means - mommy
feed me, mommy clothed me, mommy said she loves me. :picard1:


And even my Venezuelan dad, despite of not being son of an European mother or father, he still shares those same values and mentality, I guess, because he has a lot of European ancestry (even if he is far from being full white) and he got those values transmitted from generation by generation up to him. He is grand grand son of an Italian immigrant.

So, why you have problem with him? And obviously, he was
not taught proper european values, or he did not taught you,
if you despise him so much and all his ancestors.


And I talk about values like working hard to achieve your goals and not living at the expenses of the governments;

Wow! I just get, that through all this disscussion we are talking about work! :picard1:


handling family relations in a similar way as in the European homeland,

Interesting - it is not visibly in you.


having Western cultural tastes that are commonly shared not only by Europeans from Europe, but by full or mostly Euro descent people abroad, like classic music, rock music, having some interest on philosophy, love reading (each of these, depending on the person, of course)...

Wow2! And know I got, that exept work we were arguing about tastes,
music, philosophy, and reading the books! Amazing! Why I didn;t know
what I am disscusing until now?! :confused: :picard1:


IDK,

Agree. This is the main problem here.


many details like that. It's hard to explain because it covers many aspects of life,

We were even disscusing the life... why I did not get it earlier? :confused:


but I can feel it, because I feel like in home when surrounded by white people, or being in places where whites are the norm, NOT because I wannabe like them, but because I feel that I see life from the same prism as them.

90% of your presence on this forum is about you being white,
and you are very upset and displeased every time, when someone
does not support your view. It is OWD wannabeism.


Not, but I didn't acquired that mentality and way of life by casualty, but because it was transmitted to me by my Spanish mom,

So, if it would be taught to be my my mother, would I be inhertable Spaniard too? :shock:


and indirectly from my dad, who also mostly descend from European ancestors.

Italians transmitting spanishness... interesting... :coffee:


I am on behalf of the preservation of all human races. But I am very on behalf of the preservation of European and Euro descent people in particular, because I want the preservation of the people who my mom belongs to,

Aha... mommy's race is importand, daddy's not... :picard1:


and from whom most of my ancestry comes from (like it or not), NOT for being a fan of them, like somebody who likes Chinese culture and has nothing to do with Chinese people, lol.

Sure... :coffee:


And you still ask?? when you haven't stopped despising me for not being a full European born

You clearly have some delusions what I was talking about.


and raised in Europe, when you say that I don't have any right to feel any kinship with Europeans and full Euro descent people??

Delusion is going deeper I see... :bored:

[alnortedelsur]

So, look into the dictionary.
It is not my fault, that english is a poor language, and that
you neither understand the word in all of his meaning neither
you was taught proper values at home/scholl etc. European
I mean, to which you referred.

And I allready said couple of times to you, that I did not use
that word in the meaning of closeness to you. It should give
you some idea what is talking about.

Sometimes really, I have the feeling that
I am talking with people of special care.



Of course they weren't the part of the family.
Adult man, who through decades didn;t know that... :picard1:
I knew it when I was 4 years old, not fourty like you.



:picard2:

I really do not have power to talk with you? I know that American are usually laught for their
stupidness, but I thought, that someone who is inteligent enugh to make DNA test is a little wiser.
You do not even know basic social concepts, history, culture and meaning of words.



Ok, so logicaly you should feel Italian, not spanish, as you the parent was an Italian.


But it is not your case. You put your italianness into trash.



No, is not, I don;t know whom you read, but certainly not me.
You are a wannabe, becasue you want to be spanish not having any nacestral ties to it.



I do not care. about you stupid percentages, and I did not say (probably) anything about them.
You can be even 100% white, and still you will not be Spaniard.



So, good for her.
What it has to do with you? :picard1:



Where did I deny your direct link to Europe? WHERE!!!
can you stop speak with fictional me. It begins to be very annoing.



The what? :confused: :picard1:



No, they are not, becasue you do not belong to two families,
the same as you do not belong to four families of your granns,
to eight of your greatgranns, to sicteen aso... as long as you
are not a delusionist, idiot ot schizophrenic. Are you?



And this is the problem, that you do not understand eurolanguage.
The talk with you is like with a person from the forest, but I presume,
that even Bushmen are more civilized than you. MENA people certainly
are, and even with Somalis I have no problems to understand each other.
But with you, who claim to be european, I feel like I am talking with total
alien, who cannot grasp even very basics of european culture.

If you had not any natural instinct in your brain, if you were not taught by
your parents, if you was not focusing in the sunday school, if you do not
even was able to learn at school - then you should replenish your shortages
of upbringing and education on your own. You obviously didn't, and the result
is, that you are trying to fit to the sphere of life and judge it, not understanding
it at all, and not being even able to understand, if you do not even know the
basic meaning of the words wich you are using, and concepts which are you
talking about. You are talking about Family, but you do not know, what the
word means. At least you could learn from the Game of Thrones in TV, insted
of picking up the dictionary, but it seems even this was to hard for you. You
are talking about ancestors, but you do not even know, who the ancestor is,
and you despise you won forefathers. So, what you want to offer me?

Some henpecked sissi pantywaist pulp for three years old whoresons? Really? :picard1:



I was for a long time thinking, that you are doing this, but obviously you not.
You simply either are so deeply deprived of any idea, of you are doing this
purpously - shitting yourself. But why? You can only hurt yourself and yor
own children, not me. Lets assume, that you don;t care about yourself,
and hate your father (do you?) but you really want to harm your children?



you did not even understand the term "european values'.
You really think, that "european values" means - mommy
feed me, mommy clothed me, mommy said she loves me. :picard1:



So, why you have problem with him? And obviously, he was
not taught proper european values, or he did not taught you,
if you despise him so much and all his ancestors.



Wow! I just get, that through all this disscussion we are talking about work! :picard1:



Interesting - it is not visibly in you.



Wow2! And know I got, that exept work we were arguing about tastes,
music, philosophy, and reading the books! Amazing! Why I didn;t know
what I am disscusing until now?! :confused: :picard1:



Agree. This is the main problem here.



We were even disscusing the life... why I did not get it earlier? :confused:



90% of your presence on this forum is about you being white,
and you are very upset and displeased every time, when someone
does not support your view. It is OWD wannabeism.



So, if it would be taught to be my my mother, would I be inhertable Spaniard too? :shock:



Italians transmitting spanishness... interesting... :coffee:



Aha... mommy's race is importand, daddy's not... :picard1:



Sure... :coffee:



You clearly have some delusions what I was talking about.



Delusion is going deeper I see... :bored:

OK, only the paternal line counts (generation after generation), and I am Italian. I got your point.

End of discussion.

[Rethel]

I am Italian. I got your point.

Wonderfull. But you forgot to add, that an italian Semite :)

[Cristiano viejo]

Wonderfull. But you forgot to add, that an italian Semite :)

If you are Italian you are Semite per definition.

[Rethel]

If you are Italian you are Semite per definition.

Eeeee.... only 3 or 19%

[Leto]

I'm relaxed Django.. am I the brown little gay guy? :lol:

No worries mate, you've got it hard enough being a working-class half-Balkanic living in Norway.. so I'm gonna give you a free pass alright? :)
He has two European parents and is similar genetically to Central Europeans while you are 1/4 Mapuche and look accordingly. Sorry, bro, but let the truth be told. You are less white than Alnorte, let alone RN97. Now RANT!

[Costas]

Well, you sorta look gay and I see that I'm not the only one to find that out. You don't mention my other side for some reason, but I've never been ashamed of being half-Romanian nor being working class (which in Norway is being richer than 80% of Chileans). However you don't seem to content with what you are, lol. "Mediterranean looking". You're like around 40% amerindian if I recall correctly and it shows.

Umm first, since when is "looking gay" something bad? I don't give a fuck to be honest and most people in Norway would think you're retarded for saying something like that.

Secondly, 40% Amerindian? Well I guess you can't recall correctly.

Thirdly, I don't care what sort of weird fixation you've got towards me (because you're always quoting me and making comments about me etc.), but I'm happy being Chilean.

And fourthly, even if I was a Romanian like you.. I'm a bilingual lawyer, I've got a nice family, a nice house, cool friends. You say you're richer than 80% of Chileans.. well congrats. It's sad that I'm not included within that 80%. Another thing I beat you at :)

Bye bye




He has two European parents and is similar genetically to Central Europeans while you are 1/4 Mapuche and look accordingly. Sorry, bro, but let the truth be told. You are less white than Alnorte, let alone RN97. Now RANT!

First, I never said I was whiter than them.

Secondly, I don't care. Chileans are treated better than Romanians in most countries, e.g. Spain or the UK.

Thirdly, Alnorte might be white but his English sucks and he's never even lived in his "country".

[Costas]

Also the Romanian guy looks like this meme:

https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/682/6d/454a0de35887a531.png

[Leto]

Thirdly, Alnorte might be white but his English sucks and he's never even lived in his "country".
Why do you always act like you're a native speaker of English that should correct others' mistakes? I thought you liberals were supposed to be tolerant to anyone. For many people here English is not even a second language. Alnorte writes in good English and everyone understands him. Some minor errors are absolutely forgivable for a non-native speaker.

[Rethel]

1/4 Mapuche and look accordingly.

:picard2:

[Costas]

Why do you always act like you're a native speaker of English that should correct others' mistakes? I thought you liberals were supposed to be tolerant to anyone. For many people here English is not even a second language. Alnorte writes in good English and everyone understands him. Some minor errors are absolutely forgivable for a non-native speaker.

Umm I vote Conservative so what are you talking about?

Also what do you mean "here"? Fucking Bielorrusia? Mate you can't even have a democracy and you're thinking about people learning English? Haha step by step man.

[SupaThug]

Damn Costas...is there any member who you get along with well?It seems that you're always fighting someone else for the most trivial reasons.

[Leto]

Umm I vote Conservative so what are you talking about?

Also what do you mean "here"? Fucking Bielorrusia? Mate you can't even have a democracy and you're thinking about people learning English? Haha step by step man.
'Here' means TA. And I'm not a demo-rat, so that remark missed the point.

[Costas]

Damn Costas...is there any member who you get along with well?It seems that you're always fighting someone else for the most trivial reasons.

I try to be nice to everyone..

About Alnorte, I don't like him because he's made some racist remarks towards Black people and so I thought it was funny to come here and see how he's like 6 times Blacker than I am.

About the Romanian guy, he is always always quoting me, making remarks about me, commenting about what I say, etc. I literally have no idea why –I didn't even know who he was until he started doing it.

And that'd be it.


'Here' means TA. And I'm not a demo-rat, so that remark missed the point.

(?)

You were the one calling me liberal when I vote Conservative.

And also I didn't call you a Democrat I said Belarus isn't a democracy which has nothing to do with being a Democrat or a Republican.

[Rethel]

You were the one calling me liberal when I vote Conservative.

Being pro fags you call conservative? :picard2:

[Leto]

And also I didn't call you a Democrat I said Belarus isn't a democracy which has nothing to do with being a Democrat or a Republican.
No, I mean I don't believe in democracy. Even in the supposedly most free countries like the US or UK or Germany they have like 2-3 parties which are roughly the same, but have some superficial differences. And those parties switch every 4-5 years while banks and the media remain controlled by a limited number of people.

[Costas]

Being pro fags you call conservative? :picard2:

"Fags"? Don't come to me with that homophobic shit.

A Conservative Head of Government approved gay marriage in the UK, Sweden and Germany by the way.. and why would you even care what I vote for.




No, I mean I don't believe in democracy. Even in the supposedly most free countries like the US or UK or Germany they have like 2-3 parties which are roughly the same, but have some superficial differences. And those parties switch every 4-5 years while banks and the media remain controlled by a limited number of people.

So you're basically an old school communist.. very nice.

See ya mate.

[Leto]

So you're basically an old school communist.. very nice.

No. I'm a conservative right-wing person. But I'm a real (paleo)conservative ('far-right', as they call us), not a cuck-servative like you.

[RN97]

Umm first, since when is "looking gay" something bad? I don't give a fuck to be honest and most people in Norway would think you're retarded for saying something like that.

Secondly, 40% Amerindian? Well I guess you can't recall correctly.

Thirdly, I don't care what sort of weird fixation you've got towards me (because you're always quoting me and making comments about me etc.), but I'm happy being Chilean.

And fourthly, even if I was a Romanian like you.. I'm a bilingual lawyer, I've got a nice family, a nice house, cool friends. You say you're richer than 80% of Chileans.. well congrats. It's sad that I'm not included within that 80%. Another thing I beat you at :)

Bye bye





First, I never said I was whiter than them.

Secondly, I don't care. Chileans are treated better than Romanians in most countries, e.g. Spain or the UK.

Thirdly, Alnorte might be white but his English sucks and he's never even lived in his "country".
Listen Pedro. I've barely interacted with you here. I don't have any obsession with you. I was sitting back enjoying your fight with Dominicanise when I proceeded to make a witty comment. Dominicanese just laughed it off because it was a joke, but apparently you your panties in a bunch and looking at you, I'm not going to say got butthurt because I know you enjoy that. I never got into any beef just laughed at you and Dominicanise's beef.
I don't care how amerindian you are, but you don't look simply med and the amerindian shows clearly. It could easily be 40% or more. You clearly are a wannabe white or else you wouldn't omit half of my ethnic composition.
Chileans are just descendants of Spaniard rapists and Amerindian rape victims. All your note-worthy history is Spanish history. Most note-worthy Chileans are European, not mongrels like you. It's like mulattoes being proud of conquering north America or inventing the Auto-mobile because they're "Americans". No one knows you're Chilean either way. If you went to the US, people would mistake you for a Mexican. If you went to eastern Europe, people would maybe even mistake you for a gypsy, who know? Either way, there is a reason for why Romanians have a bad reputation and I'll let you figure that one out, but I'll say this. If we went to the UK. You'd be more likely to be mistaken for a "Romanian". No one has even mistaken me for a Romanian. I also do not care.
Another thing I couldn't care less about is your life bro. Good for you, but I'm 19 so even making a comparison is sad. Being overtly braggadocios is even sadder as it reeks of some sort of insecurity. Not to mention that I'm the wrong guy to brag about languages too since I speak three languages which should be obvious, but somehow you miss that.

Also the Romanian guy looks like this meme:

https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/682/6d/454a0de35887a531.png

I wouldn't be talking about looks if I was you man. I'm being serious, you can even make a thread if you wanna know who's better looking out of us two.

[Costas]

No. I'm a conservative right-wing person. But I'm a real (paleo)conservative ('far-right', as they call us), not a cuck-servative like you.

Haha okay congratulations? lol

[Costas]

Listen Pedro. I've barely interacted with you here. I don't have any obsession with you. I was sitting back enjoying your fight with Dominicanise when I proceeded to make a witty comment. Dominicanese just laughed it off because it was a joke, but apparently you your panties in a bunch and looking at you, I'm not going to say got butthurt because I know you enjoy that. I never got into any beef just laughed at you and Dominicanise's beef.
I don't care how amerindian you are, but you don't look simply med and the amerindian shows clearly. It could easily be 40% or more. You clearly are a wannabe white or else you wouldn't omit half of my ethnic composition.
Chileans are just descendants of Spaniard rapists and Amerindian rape victims. All your note-worthy history is Spanish history. Most note-worthy Chileans are European, not mongrels like you. It's like mulattoes being proud of conquering north America or inventing the Auto-mobile because they're "Americans". No one knows you're Chilean either way. If you went to the US, people would mistake you for a Mexican. If you went to eastern Europe, people would maybe even mistake you for a gypsy, who know? Either way, there is a reason for why Romanians have a bad reputation and I'll let you figure that one out, but I'll say this. If we went to the UK. You'd be more likely to be mistaken for a "Romanian". No one has even mistaken me for a Romanian. I also do not care.
Another thing I couldn't care less about is your life bro. Good for you, but I'm 19 so even making a comparison is sad. Being overtly braggadocios is even sadder as it reeks of some sort of insecurity. Not to mention that I'm the wrong guy to brag about languages too since I speak three languages which should be obvious, but somehow you miss that.


I wouldn't be talking about looks if I was you man. I'm being serious, you can even make a thread if you wanna know who's better looking out of us two.

Wow, your father abandoning you must have really hurt you to make all those racist and homophobic comments.

Also lol at you for saying "if you went to the US", "if you went to Eastern Europe" haha. I've already been to the US and Eastern Europe..

Just two small things:

(1) If you don't care about me why such a long post?

(2) You do have an obsession.. just check your posts. You're always quoting me and whatever. Who knows? Maybe you're the gay one. You know the very homophobic ones always end up being gay.. good luck Jewfro guy.

[Dominicanese]

I try to be nice to everyone..

About Alnorte, I don't like him because he's made some racist remarks towards Black people and so I thought it was funny to come here and see how he's like 6 times Blacker than I am.

About the Romanian guy, he is always always quoting me, making remarks about me, commenting about what I say, etc. I literally have no idea why –I didn't even know who he was until he started doing it.

And that'd be it.



(?)

You were the one calling me liberal when I vote Conservative.

And also I didn't call you a Democrat I said Belarus isn't a democracy which has nothing to do with being a Democrat or a Republican.

oye calm down dude

idk if these posts really bother you or your just fucking around ranting, if this bothers you, dont react

i used to get butthurt when i first join these forums, my first one was ABF cause i didnt know better and i got banned, theres alot a trolls and ppl that dont give a shit about the purpose of these forums which is about anthropology, history, and the study of human related subjects such as race etc... i dont react or take yours or anyone else's comments or posts seriously unless its something to do about subject matter or interests; reason being cause if i saw anyone one you in person ill greet in a friendly manner, its like when your driving a car in a city full of reckless drivers and its crowdy (many drivers are good but they dont know whos doing what) and you fuck up or the other person and you flip em off or honk the horn and feel like kill them or them on you, that same person u find em in a store somewhere or the beach and u get along well despite not knowing that that was the same guy that u almost faught

the way i talk/type is very old school, you know this im dominican campesino and we express ourselves very strongly, if ppl get offended easily we tell em stop being a little bitch about it but we'er not saying the person is a lil bitch, thats political incorrectness and political correctness doesnt work at all, i hate that bullshit, im like a trump bro, im very straight up in person and online i say what i say and i dont bullshit ppl

relax bro

[Costas]

oye calm down dude

idk if these posts really bother you or your just fucking around ranting, if this bothers you, dont react

i used to get butthurt when i first join these forums, my first one was ABF cause i didnt know better and i got banned, theres alot a trolls and ppl that dont give a shit about the purpose of these forums which is about anthropology, history, and the study of human related subjects such as race etc... i dont react or take yours or anyone else's comments or posts seriously unless its something to do about subject matter or interests; reason being cause if i saw anyone one you in person ill greet in a friendly manner, its like when your driving a car in a city full of reckless drivers and its crowdy (many drivers are good but they dont know whos doing what) and you fuck up or the other person and you flip em off or honk the horn and feel like kill them or them on you, that same person u find em in a store somewhere or the beach and u get along well despite not knowing that that was the same guy that u almost faught

the way i talk/type is very old school, you know this im dominican campesino and we express ourselves very strongly, if ppl get offended easily we tell em stop being a little bitch about it but we'er not saying the person is a lil bitch, thats political incorrectness and political correctness doesnt work at all, i hate that bullshit

relax bro

Haha chill mate I'm just having a laugh.

If someone says something racist or homophobic I'll reply because that's not cool in the fucking 21st century.. but other than that I'm not serious at all, no worries

I'm not the one with the weird obsession around here haha the guy with the Jewfro is

[Rethel]

"Fags"? Don't come to me with that homophobic shit.

Actualy, shit it is what fags like - you seem too... :puke:


A Conservative Head of Government approved gay marriage in the UK, Sweden and Germany by the way..

Surrprize!
They are not conservatives, like Commies in china are not Commies...
Don't tell me that you can be bought by the name? :coffee:


and why would you even care what I vote for.

I do not care.
Yop simply was trying to lie to us, that you are
a conservative, so, I just uncover your deceiving.

[Costas]

and why would you even care what I vote for.

I do not care.
Yop simply was trying to lie to us, that you are
a conservative, so, I just uncover your deceiving.

I didn't say I'm a conservative, I said I voted for the Conservatives, as in I vote for the centre-right coalition in my country.

I'm just starting to think people at this forum are plain mentally handicapped??

[Rethel]

I didn't say I'm a conservative, I said I voted for the Conservatives, as in I vote for the centre-right coalition in my country.

You were opposing calling you liberal by saying you vote for conservatives.

It is a clear message. If you do not understand what you are
supposing, then maybe you are mentaly handicapped?

[Like Lokuss]

Do you look fully white?

[Costas]

You were opposing calling you liberal by saying you vote for conservatives.

It is a clear message. If you do not understand what you are
supposing, then maybe you are mentaly handicapped?

Liberal = left-wing.

I vote for the centre-right coalition.

Not too hard mate, try again.

[Rethel]

Liberal = left-wing.

I vote for the centre-right coalition.

Not too hard mate, try again.

Doesn;t matter. If you support fags, you are leftist. Period.

[Costas]

Doesn;t matter. If you support fags, you are leftist. Period.

Good thing you're a minority in Liechtenstein :)

Wish you luck being a homophobic in Western Europe lol

[Cristiano viejo]

Good thing you're a minority in Liechtenstein :)
He is Polish, boy.


Wish you luck being a homophobic in Western Europe lol
It is faggots who need it, you should wish it to them.

[Dominicanese]

interesting, looking back at alnortdelsur's ancestrydna results

it seems that he lacks the moorish/berber ancestry that most of us have, but is directly mena

cause he's 6% direct mena

[Kriptc06]

interesting, looking back at alnortdelsur's ancestrydna results

it seems that he lacks the moorish/berber ancestry that most of us have, but is directly mena

cause he's 6% direct mena

I suspect that clonials were a bit more mena than todays iberians, or at least maney were jews/morisco. Alnorte has very small colonial iberian imput, hes 1/4 italian instead. 50% iberian mother + 1/4 Italian = 75% to 87 = 12% only.

[Cristiano viejo]

I suspect that clonials were a bit more mena than todays iberians, or at least maney were jews/morisco. Alnorte has very small colonial iberian imput, hes 1/4 italian instead. 50% iberian mother + 1/4 Italian = 75% to 87 = 12% only.

Many Jews and Moriscos fleed to America indeed.

[Costas]

He is Polish, boy.


It is faggots who need it, you should wish it to them.

Polish is getting very westernised anyway :p

[Rethel]

Wish you luck being a homophobic in Western Europe lol

Do you really think, that Western Europe is allready so degenerated,
that it is hard to be normal, and there is need for a luck? I would
argue, that South america is much more degenerated. Tolerance
for satanists and perverts was famous there even before it was
officialy admitted - when in Wester Europe was not at all. Such
pervert animalistic behaviour was pubishable by law.



He is Polish, boy.
It is faggots who need it, you should wish it to them.

We have one rasta-guy (white, Pole) who did make a song
about fags and lesbs, that they should be killed, shootted
and similar. I didn't hear ever that he had some problems
because of that, and the song is still available on youtube :laugh:

[Cristiano viejo]

Do you really think, that Western Europe is allready so degenerated,
that it is hard to be normal, and there is need for a luck?

Very good point...

[Costas]

Do you really think, that Western Europe is allready so degenerated,
that it is hard to be normal, and there is need for a luck? I would
argue, that South america is much more degenerated. Tolerance
for satanists and perverts was famous there even before it was
officialy admitted - when in Wester Europe was not at all. Such
pervert animalistic behaviour was pubishable by law.



Haha sorry to break it up to you mate but at this point being homophobic is the "unnormal" thing in Western Europe :)

So yeah, good luck holding your views. I don't really care because I don't treat with people like you in my daily life –I tend to have a rather educated circle.

However, I do think you don't share your views in public, e.g. at work, public places, etc. because of the problems it might cause you.

See ya.

[Rethel]

Haha sorry to break it up to you mate but at this point being homophobic is the "unnormal" thing in Western Europe

It doesn;t change the fact, that it is unnormal.
Btw, God says, that he is abhored by this, and that every fag should be killed.
And through 99,99% of history of mankind fags were see as unnormal - according
to standarts of normality, which are obviously foreign to you.


So yeah, good luck holding your views. I don't really care because I don't treat with people like you in my daily life –I tend to have a rather educated circle.

You are so educated, and you do not know, what the sex and sexual organs are?
So educate, but you do not know, that + and + or - and - doesn;t work?
So educate, and you do not even know, for what serve the ass?

But yea, modern schools produce many idiots - mostly becasue some people
should nave be educated, to not think, that they are wise. Idiot will think, that
this what he was tought makes him wise. But it isn;t the case. People like you yet
70 years ago did send people into gas chambers, only, becasue they were educated
by those, who knew better, and they, as "modern", "XXcentury", "educated" morons,
did follow, what mainstream thaught was right. Now you think, that people who not only
put their dicks into another man ass, but also molestate children and literally eat shit, are
normal, and the criterion of normality. If you really think like that, then you are totaly brainless.


However, I do think you don't share your views in public, e.g. at work, public places, etc. because of the problems it might cause you.

Yes, I do. We did even disscused it on language courses. There was so clever and modern
Belarussian teacheress, who was absorbing everything what was from the west. Such lessons
were glorious - stupidity was debunked totaly. And we do not yet live in gayland like maybe
you, so we can say whatever we wish. Even in TV people can say, what they really think
about fags. Here is free country, and everybody has the right to free say what he thinks.
Not like in pervert totalitarian land of idiots in which probably you live, claiming to be a
democrat, but suggesting, that some people have not right to speak their opinions.
So you are a fraud and a liar.

[Costas]

It doesn;t change the fact, that it is unnormal.
Btw, God says, that he is abhored by this, and that every fag should be killed.
And through 99,99% of history of mankind fags were see as unnormal - according
to standarts of normality, which are obviously foreign to you.



You are so educated, and you do not know, what the sex and sexual organs are?
So educate, but you do not know, that + and + or - and - doesn;t work?
So educate, and you do not even know, for what serve the ass?

But yea, modern schools produce many idiots - mostly becasue some people
should nave be educated, to not think, that they are wise. Idiot will think, that
this what he was taugh makes him wise. But it isn;t the case. People like you yet
70 years ago did send people into gas chamber, only, becasue they were educated
by those, who knew better, and they, as "modern", "XXcentury", "educated" morons,
did follow. what mainstream thaught was right. Now you think, that people who not only
put their dicks into another man ass, but also molestate children and literally eat shit, are
normal, and the criterion of normality. If you really think like that, then you are totaly brainless.



Yes, I do. We did even disscused it on language courses. There was so clever and modern
Belarussian teacheress, who was absorbing everything what was from the west. Such lessons
were glorious - stupidity was debunked totaly. And we do not yet live in gayland like maybe
you, so we can say whatever we wish. Even in TV people can say, what they really think
about fags. Here is free country, and everybody has the right to free say what he thinks.
Not like in pervert totalitarian land of idiots in which probably you live, claiming to be a
democrat, but suggesting, that some people have not right to speak their opinions.
So you are a fraud and a liar.

Hahahaha oh my god..

I thought you were from Poland? If you're from Belarus well that makes sense.

I don't get why you've got Liechtenstein on your profile though.. Embarrassed of your country?

[Rethel]

Hahahaha oh my god..

Don't involve god on this becasue he do not like perverts, neither those who supports them.


I thought you were from Poland? If you're from Belarus well that makes sense.

:picard2:


I don't get why you've got Liechtenstein on your profile though.. Embarrassed of your country?

I honour the only state in Europe who resigned from d***cracy in public referendum
on behalf of their monarch - and actualy the owner of own land named by his name.

[Costas]

Don't involve god on this becasue he do not like perverts, neither those who supports them.

:picard2:

I honour the only state in Europe who resigned from d***cracy in public referendum
on behalf of their monarch - and actualy the owner of own land named by his name.

Hahaha do you happen to have Asperger???

[Dominicanese]

I suspect that clonials were a bit more mena than todays iberians, or at least maney were jews/morisco. Alnorte has very small colonial iberian imput, hes 1/4 italian instead. 50% iberian mother + 1/4 Italian = 75% to 87 = 12% only.

it seems that way yeah, colonials likely were more mena

i remember barbaro told me there were many towns that became almost empty due to bandolerismo in andaluzia and took on the ocean for inbound to the americas via cadiz and that these were more true spaniards, but then they had to send many spaniards from the north including non spaniard euros to re populate these areas and this was during the 1500s and possibly a little later

[Cristiano viejo]

it seems that way yeah, colonials likely were more mena

i remember barbaro told me there were many towns that became almost empty due to bandolerismo in andaluzia and took on the ocean for inbound to the americas via cadiz and that these were more true spaniards, but then they had to send many spaniards from the north including non spaniard euros to re populate these areas and this was during the 1500s and possibly a little later

Read this, I know you can read Spanish. It is about the repopulations of North Andalusia with people from Germany, Switzerland and Flanders.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuevas_Poblaciones_de_Andaluc%C3%ADa_y_Sierra_More na

[Rethel]

Read this, I know you can read Spanish. It is about the repopulations of North Andalusia with people from Germany, Switzerland and Flanders.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuevas_Poblaciones_de_Andaluc%C3%ADa_y_Sierra_More na

How, where, when and why?

[Cristiano viejo]

How, where, when and why?
Colonization of Sierra Morena was a project implemented by Pablo de Olavide, whereby some six thousand European colonists settled in an area located on the southern slope of the Sierra Morena, in Spain, in the current provinces of Jaén, Córdoba and Seville. Colonization, financed by the state, was intended to encourage agriculture and industry in an unpopulated area threatened by banditry.

How: attracting Central European Catholic families by offering them lands exempt from taxes, they were offered to Spain by the Bavarian official Johann K***** Thürriegel https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_K*****_Th%C3%BCrriegel

The bleak Sierra Morena mountains were also notorious in former times for being a haunt of bandits and highwaymen.
The Nuevas Poblaciones de Andalucía y Sierra Morena administrative division was started in 1767 during the reign of Charles III of Spain in order to populate the mountainous zone.As a consequence the area around La Carolina was settled with farmers that included German, Swiss and Flemish families. One of the goals of the project was to have safe stopover points for carriages in the desolate region that would be within reasonable distance from each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Morena#History

[Dominicanese]

Read this, I know you can read Spanish. It is about the repopulations of North Andalusia with people from Germany, Switzerland and Flanders.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuevas_Poblaciones_de_Andaluc%C3%ADa_y_Sierra_More na

yupp, just as i suspected

makes alot of sense, we could be true andaluzians here in the new world and we dont even know it, but amazingly this was all just for safely and protection for their families by the idiots gunning down and killing innocent ppl in the hills and roads of the back country, fucking mamaguevasos de mierda eso bandidos, basta a todo esos charlatanes

they left their homes for this shit hole side of the world where you would likely die before 60 from dengue, malaria, colera, yaws, and hookworms, etc... and if not that then from lethal weaponry, slave revolts, and piracy

and i bet your ass that half of em didnt even make it across the ocean

[MercifulServant]

Would you have preferred to have higher euro results?

[alnortedelsur]

Would you have preferred to have higher euro results?

I'm OK with who I am.

[MercifulServant]

I'm OK with what I am.

You're mostly euro anyway do you think you're 23andme results are more accurate when it comes to the euro amount or you're ancestry results?

[alnortedelsur]

You're mostly euro anyway do you think you're 23andme results are more accurate when it comes to the euro amount or you're ancestry results?

I think (though I might be wrong, because I'm not an expert) that Ancestry DNA is interpreting some of my Neolithic Euro ancestry as "West Asian" so yeah, I think that my Euro estimate from 23AndMe is more accurate.

I also find very interesting my results from Ancestry DNA, though.

[MercifulServant]

I think (though I might be wrong, because I'm not an expert) that Ancestry DNA is interpreting some of my Neolithic Euro ancestry as "West Asian" so yeah, I think that my Euro estimate from 23AndMe is more accurate.

I also find very interesting my results from Ancestry DNA, though.

Maybe it could be somewere in between I guess, AncestryDNA gives the west Asian result to a lot of people and a lot of the time the west Asian is too high and seems impossible I watched this family test on AncestryDNA and there son who was Nordic looking and was a normal white American of like Irish and Scandinavian descent I think got like 4 percent west Asian or something which I find hard to believe I have also seen balkanites get some high amounts of west Asian results I am actually waiting for my ancestry DNA results I might also do 23andme in the future