Alnortedelsur Ancestry DNA Results are Finally Here

[alnortedelsur]

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[Noman]

Hey congratz!

You are from Spain, so I know why you have African admixture.
Could you also upload your data to genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php

[alnortedelsur]

Hey congratz!

You are from Spain, so I know why you have African admixture.
Could you also upload your data to genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php

Most of my SSA admixture must come from my Venezuelan dad. Full Spaniards don't score that high as 6%SSA. They score from zero to less than 1% SSA in most cases.

[Mortimer]

Do you still consider yourself white?

[alnortedelsur]

Do you still consider yourself white?

I just see myself as a mostly European descent person. I don't care if that qualifies as "white" (a very elastic concept) or not.

I might not be considered white (genetically) by some people. But that I am mostly Euro descent is absolutely true, and I easily get mistaken as being full white.

[Mortimer]

I just see myself as a mostly European descent person. I don't care if that qualifies as "white" (a very elastic concept) or not.

I might not be considered white (genetically) by some people. But that I am mostly Euro descent is absolutely true, and I easily get mistaken as being full white.

I remember you yourself once said for africans 3% is enough to be non-white or even 1% but you can be 15% amerindian and white, that was when you believed you are only amerindian. But congrats to your results.

[alnortedelsur]

I remember you yourself once said for africans 3% is enough to be non-white or even 1% but you can be 15% amerindian and white, that was when you believed you are only amerindian. But congrats to your results.

Yeah, I said that. However I am still mostly Euro descent, and look white. I don't care if I said that, I am very happy with what I am, be it "white" or not.

[Mortimer]

Yeah, I said that. However I am still mostly Euro descent, and look white. I don't care if I said that, I am very happy with what I am, be it "white" or not.

will you still be racist in future? and what about racism towards africans?

[alnortedelsur]

will you still be racist in future? and what about racism towards africans?

What I think regarding them as a whole, won't change after knowing that I have a bit of them. After all 6% is too little to have effect in your intelligence or phenotype

I have always said however, that what I think about them is at a collective level, and that I am open minded enough to admit that there are exceptions to the rule.

I am willing, however to embrace that minor SSA admixture, thinking that they must have something positive as a race, after all (despite of what I think about them collectively).

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Most of my SSA admixture must come from my Venezuelan dad. Full Spaniards don't score that high as 6%SSA. They score from zero to less than 1% SSA in most cases.

Yeah, yours and mine obvious are from the new world. 6% SSA

[Kamal900]

Yeah, yours and mine obvious are from the new world. 6% SSA

I think it's what the average SSA admixture in most Mexican groups are which is around 6 to 8% which is on the same level as most Palestinians and other southern Levantine peoples(the SSA admixture in most Palestinians is east Africans while the SSA admixture in the new world is west African).

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I think it's what the average SSA admixture in most Mexican groups are which is around 6 to 8% which is on the same level as most Palestinians and other southern Levantine peoples(the SSA admixture in most Palestinians is east Africans while the SSA admixture in the new world is west African).

The avarage SSA for Mexican is 1-3. I score 6%, which is consider high for avarage Mexican.

I score more like Venezuelans or something.

[Heather Duval]

What I think regarding them as a whole, won't change after knowing that I have a bit of them. After all 6% is too little to have effect in your intelligence or phenotype

I have always said however, that what I think about them is at a collective level, and that I am open minded enough to admit that there are exceptions to the rule.

I am willing, however to embrace that minor SSA admixture, thinking that they must have something positive as a race, after all (despite of what I think about them collectively).

What Affected your low intelligence is your Spanish ancestry.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

What Affected your low intelligence is your Spanish ancestry.

LMAO!!

[Dominicanese]

Yeah, I said that. However I am still mostly Euro descent, and look white. I don't care if I said that, I am very happy with what I am, be it "white" or not.

your white to me

nice results btw

your basically a euro version of the average venezuelan

you have senegambian blood as predomiantly in your SSA, they were among the first in the slave trade via cape verde (1500s), so your def venezuelan in your dads side

curacao and Bonaire also has high senegambian since they had connections with CV and the portuguese, and theyr right tyhere by venezuela, possibly a possible connection idk

[Kamal900]

LMAO!!

I know, It's stupid. The reality is that people with high SSA admixture tend to be more violent than other peoples.

[Heather Duval]

I have black friends in college and they are the most dedicated to studies because they did not come from rich families, they are ambitious.
While I see many spoiled whites who are more stupid than Paris Hilton.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Iberians can be 6% north African but not subsaharian lol m, its slaves ancestry

[Heather Duval]

The avarage SSA for Mexican is 1-3. I score 6%, which is consider high for avarage Mexican.

I score more like Venezuelans or something.

Yes, you scored the same as him but I remember people calling you Tri racial just because they hates you.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Yes, you scored the same as him but I remember people calling you Tri racial just because they hates you.

Yeah, haters gonna talk shit.

They have call me all kinds of shit...All kinds. From mestizo to Tri racial to Mulatto to Quadroon and even "black" at times, lol. Thinking it will offend me. But nah. They make me laugh actually. My haters.

[Heather Duval]

Yeah, haters gonna talk shit.

They have call me all kinds of shit...All kinds. From mestizo to Tri racial to Mulatto to Quadroon and even "black" at times, lol. Thinking it will offend me. But nah. They make me laugh actually. My haters.

Lightshade25 and that gypsy with curly hair
I FORGOT HIS NAME

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Lightshade25 and that gypsy with curly hair
I FORGOT HIS NAME

Those stupid idiots made the list. Of stupid idiots.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Lightshade must have some black blood running threw his vains, the motherfucka don't look "white". But kind of mixed.

[Heather Duval]

Those stupid idiots made the list. Of stupid idiots.

http://www.wnyc.org/i/620/372/c/80/1/KeithSPicedit.jpg

[Lightshade25]

Lightshade must have some black blood running threw his vains, the motherfucka don't look "white". But kind of mixed.

Through* veins* doesn't*

Go back to school, illiterate beaner. I don't even care if you think I look black, white or blue. You're delusional asf.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

http://www.wnyc.org/i/620/372/c/80/1/KeithSPicedit.jpg


Through* veins* doesn't*

Go back to school, illiterate beaner. I don't even care if you think I look black, white or blue. You're delusional asf.

http://www.chicagonow.com/moms-who-drink-and-swear/files/2014/01/b94898abf8e0ca1a2a34188b1b3364d0ae905edc5a1497fac7 78450cdd9f1b78.jpg

[Leto]

Congrats on your new results. Basically 87% Caucasoid, 7% Amerindian and 6% SSA. Update your ethnicity information.
Don't know why people are so obsessed with your SSA admixture. You are literally like 1/16 Sub-Saharan. Not even an octoroon level.

[Kriptc06]

I think it's what the average SSA admixture in most Mexican groups are which is around 6 to 8% which is on the same level as most Palestinians and other southern Levantine peoples(the SSA admixture in most Palestinians is east Africans while the SSA admixture in the new world is west African).

the ssa can be minor eastern bantu (Mozambique), specially in south america, Ive seen other Brazilian results some of them have east africa.

My SSA in particular, seems to be from Ghana and Nigeria, and it makes sense (check the map - Recife). recently I was contacted by someone from Ghana who was 100% african, from gedmatch.

https://content.openclass.com/eps/pearson-reader/api/item/33c1ac75-46ce-4867-ae30-5281538f14a6/1/file/RubensteinCHG3-071415-MB/OPS/img/imported_files02/rube_070402--slave_trade.png

[Kriptc06]

Congrats on your new results. Basically 87% Caucasoid, 7% Amerindian and 6% SSA. Update your ethnicity information.
Don't know why people are so obsessed with your SSA admixture. You are literally like 1/16 Sub-Saharan. Not even an octoroon level.

depends on the Amerindian tribe, not all amerindians are fully mongoloid, they can be a quarter or a third caucasoid (the unmixed ones, yes), as they have ANE-like dna, and some of them look like it.

[alnortedelsur]

What Affected your low intelligence is your Spanish ancestry.

And what part of your ancestry did affect your very low intelligence and being such a dumb ass??

[Carlito's Way]

Congrats on your new results. Basically 87% Caucasoid, 7% Amerindian and 6% SSA. Update your ethnicity information.
Don't know why people are so obsessed with your SSA admixture. You are literally like 1/16 Sub-Saharan. Not even an octoroon level.

Because it is very high for a so called mestizo which according to him he was only Euro and Amerindian, you can imagine how his family scores the non-spaniard ones score
and it also debunks his claims that Venezuela is filled with many mestizos with little to non SSA, and how does he make such claims? based on phenotypes
hopefully he learned that phenotypes mean shit when it comes to genotype

[Erronkari]

8% SSA you????? I suspect that 23andme is more accurate...

[alnortedelsur]

8% SSA you????? I suspect that 23andme is more accurate...

6% not 8%.

[Erronkari]

6% not 8%.

Even, 23 gave you 4%. I still think it's more accurate than this, although 6% doesn't show in your phenotype.
The other point which is weird for me is that you scored more italian than iberian (?)
But it's ok... any calculator interprats values in their own way.
Indeed you are lucky... because in your country you can recive the packets and you can send the samples without troubles.
Here it's very difficult, that's the reason why I just want all the time calculators which I can access with my Raw Data. This country is too much bureaucratic... :(
So, congrats for that! :D

[alnortedelsur]

Because it is very high for a so called mestizo which according to him he was only Euro and Amerindian, you can imagine how his family scores the non-spaniard ones score
and it also debunks his claims that Venezuela is filled with many mestizos with little to non SSA, and how does he make such claims? based on phenotypes
hopefully he learned that phenotypes mean shit when it comes to genotype

I have never said that Venezuela is a mestizo country with not SSA, dumb ass.

I have only claimed that Venezuela is not predominately African overall, but a mestizo-leaning triracial country on average (more European and Amerindian than SSA admixture when averaging its whole population) with decent amounts of whites and mestizos, and without negating that there is also a significant griffe segment on its population.

But that the overall average of the country is a mixture with more Euro/Amerindian than black.

That's not the same as saying that Venezuela is strictly an Euro/Amerindian mestizo country with zero SSA (something that I have NEVER said) retard.

[Rethel]

Y?

[TrueIndepence]

Now you can be president of the NAACP!

[Kriptc06]

Y?

hes J

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelans#Mestizos


Many of the indigenous peoples were absorbed into the Mestizo population, because of the heavy mixture of European and African people. They represent over half of the country's population (about 51.6%).[16] The autosomal DNA genetic composition of mestizo population in Venezuela, is 60.60% of European contribution, 23% of indigenous contribution, and 16.30% of African contribution.[20]

[Annie999]

Do you still consider yourself white?

I've seen his pictures it would be ridiculous if he didn't consider himself white

[Myanthropologies]

Congrats on your results! My sample just arrived to the ancestryDNA lab today. How long did take them to transfer it to the lab after it arrived? And how long did it take for your results to be ready from there?

Also, I guess our have to change "mostly Spanish, some slight italian mixture" to "mostly Italian, some slight Spanish admixture," cause it appears you're more Italian than Iberian ;) jkjkjk.

[Heather Duval]

Because it is very high for a so called mestizo which according to him he was only Euro and Amerindian, you can imagine how his family scores the non-spaniard ones score
and it also debunks his claims that Venezuela is filled with many mestizos with little to non SSA, and how does he make such claims? based on phenotypes
hopefully he learned that phenotypes mean shit when it comes to genotype

This(op)white passing latino is 13/14% non Euro
"mn the loki ta son" is the same genetically and is called tri racial here, why?

[Heather Duval]

God is amazing
This nigga hates Italians and black but is descent of both

[Annie999]

This(op)white passing latino is 13/14% non Euro
"mn the loki ta son" is the same genetically and is called tri racial here, why?

Mn is concidered triracial because he looks triracial. Alnortedelsur looks white so he's white. In the real world people pass for what they look like, no one ever comes and ask for a DNA test.

[Erronkari]

Honestly, I've never seen any comment of him against italians...

[alnortedelsur]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelans#Mestizos

LOL... That's the Venezuelan average,moron. It doesn't mean that ALL mixed Venezuelans have those percentages. There are also Venezuelans who are heavily African AS WELL as many Venezuelans who are more strictly mestizos (in diverse proportions) with very little to none SSA. What an idiot :picard1:

[Heather Duval]

Honestly, I've never seen any comment of him against italians...

Yeah. Italicroots hates him for no reason.

[Heather Duval]

Mn is concidered triracial because he looks triracial. Alnortedelsur looks white so he's white. In the real world people pass for what they look like, no one ever comes and ask for a DNA test.

Eh? Ariana Grande the biggest Mexican you ever seen.

[alnortedelsur]

Congrats on your results! My sample just arrived to the ancestryDNA lab today. How long did take them to transfer it to the lab after it arrived? And how long did it take for your results to be ready from there?

Also, I guess our have to change "mostly Spanish, some slight italian mixture" to "mostly Italian, some slight Spanish admixture," cause it appears you're more Italian than Iberian ;) jkjkjk.

It took around one month since the moment they received it until they started lab processing it. But it only took about one week in the lab processing stage.

But that was in my case. I have read that it doesn't take the same time on each person.

[Erronkari]

Yeah. Italicroots hates him for no reason.

I really don't know italicroots.
I've never participated in that site... so... I have no idea...

[alnortedelsur]

God is amazing
This nigga hates Italians and black but is descent of both

I have never said that I hate black people, and I have always claimed to be proud of having a bit of Italian, and have never participated directly in the Italian/Iberian wars.

I have only defended my Iberian side from Italian trolls, but without saying anything against Italy and Italians.

You should stop smoking so much pot.

[Heather Duval]

In that case exotic fully Euros like Ariana Grande should consider themselves non white because they are not white enough as white passings :lol:

[alnortedelsur]

Yeah. Italicroots hates him for no reason.

Those bunch of Idiots hate many people from Apricity, and wrongly mistake me for an anti-Italian troll, when I am not.

I troll them, insult them, and make fun of them as the bunch of idiots that they are, but without insulting Italians as a whole, but only to them.

I have a very good general opinion about Italy and Italians, and I am very proud of having a bit of Italian on me.

[Heather Duval]

If the phenotype is very important I have the right to consider such Iberians like Viriato not white because everyone could assume that nigga is a mixed latino or Turkish

[Heather Duval]

Those bunch of Idiots hate many people from Apricity, and wrongly mistake me for an anti-Italian troll, when I am not.

I troll them, insult them, and make fun of them as the bunch of idiots that they are, but without insulting Italians as a whole, but only to them.

I have a very good general opinion about Italy and Italians, and I am very proud of having a bit of Italian on me.

u never mentioned to have italian lol you were always showing iberian proud and bla bla
you really need help

[alnortedelsur]

u never mentioned to have italian lol you were always showing iberian proud and bla bla
you really need help

I have made some comments in different threads about being proud of having a bit of Italian. I'm sure some posters on here can attest it.

And I even proudly indicate that I have some Italian mixture on my profile.

You're the one who needs help, attention whore tranny.

[Myanthropologies]

Even, 23 gave you 4%. I still think it's more accurate than this, although 6% doesn't show in your phenotype.
The other point which is weird for me is that you scored more italian than iberian (?)
But it's ok... any calculator interprats values in their own way.
Indeed you are lucky... because in your country you can recive the packets and you can send the samples without troubles.
Here it's very difficult, that's the reason why I just want all the time calculators which I can access with my Raw Data. This country is too much bureaucratic... :(
So, congrats for that! :D

I think it's 4% too. He only scored 4% Senegal on ancestry. North African is caucasoid and the <1% is probably just noise.

[alnortedelsur]

Even, 23 gave you 4%. I still think it's more accurate than this, although 6% doesn't show in your phenotype.
The other point which is weird for me is that you scored more italian than iberian (?)
But it's ok... any calculator interprats values in their own way.
Indeed you are lucky... because in your country you can recive the packets and you can send the samples without troubles.
Here it's very difficult, that's the reason why I just want all the time calculators which I can access with my Raw Data. This country is too much bureaucratic... :(
So, congrats for that! :D

I'm still very surprised that I came up scoring some SSA, even if minor. And my family is even more shocked with it. My mom is full Spanish, and she is full European for sure, while my dad was very white passing in his younger years. He is even blue eyed and had a light chestnut hair color when he had hair (he became bald since he was a young adult). But after getting older, his Amerindian mixture has became more noticeable (but still looking mostly like Euro-mestizo).

His dad (who was grandson of an Italian immigrant) was very pale, blonde and had blue eyes. And then my paternal grandma (my mom's dad) didn't look much different from many of the Venezuelan harnizas and castizas I have opened threads about. That's why we are very surprised that I scored some SSA.

[Ranger0075]

Italian score on AncestryDNA is bullshit, even chileans and mexicans can score more italian/greek than iberian there. That's misunderstood iberian score.

[Isleño]

...

[Isleño]

If the phenotype is very important I have the right to consider such Iberians like Viriato not white because everyone could assume that nigga is a mixed latino or Turkish

Many Spaniards could pass as "Latino" because there are white Latinos.

[EL_BARBARO]

Many Spaniards could pass as "Latino" because there are white Latinos.


In fact, we would indeed be the true "latinos", along with the italian, the french, the portuguese, the romanian &c

The term "latino" in the Americas was born more like a political concept rather than an ethnic one.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

LOL... That's the Venezuelan average,moron. It doesn't mean that ALL mixed Venezuelans have those percentages. There are also Venezuelans who are heavily African AS WELL as many Venezuelans who are more strictly mestizos (in diverse proportions) with very little to none SSA. What an idiot :picard1:

Calm down you autists. All i did was qoute the Average from wiki for half of the venezuelan population... idiot

Why are you so dumb. Can't you read?
It said it was for the mestizo pop at 51 %

[Rethel]

hes J

In that case, he can deny his italianness as much as he wish :laugh:

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

In that case, he can deny his italianness as much as he wish [emoji23]
Hes J1 actually though.

[Rethel]

Hes J1 actually though.

A Jew? :laugh:

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

A Jew? [emoji23]
Probably berber or lebanese phonecian. I dont know if guanches had j1 though.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

A Jew? [emoji23]
Probably berber or lebanese phonecian. I dont know if guanches had j1 though.

[Rethel]

Probably berber or lebanese phonecian. I dont know if guanches had j1 though.

In first and second century AD hundrets of thosends of Jews were
captured and sold into Italy. He could be. He should check the subclade.
Not mentioning the converts during last 1700 years...

[Heather Duval]

Many Spaniards could pass as "Latino" because there are white Latinos.

He is not Spaniard and doesnt look like one, he is Portugrease. Remember when even CV used to see him as non white before his 23andme came out, and this whole forum too. Let white latinos alone, that nigga is exotic as fuck.

[Bradshaw]

I guess this means that you're not white lol

[Kriptc06]

In that case, he can deny his italianness as much as he wish :laugh:

hes J-M267 (J1)
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?211120-Alnortedelsur-23Andme-Results-Are-Finally-Here

I dont know much about J, all i know is that its near eastern, and can be often jew.

[alnortedelsur]

I guess this means that you're not white lol

Hi there, sock account of Carlitos :wave:

Now that you said it, I won't be able to sleep tonight :rolleyes:

[alnortedelsur]

How do I access my raw data from ancestry DNA?? I don't see it anywhere. Does somebody know??

[Isleño]

He is not Spaniard and doesnt look like one, he is Portugrease. Remember when even CV used to see him as non white before his 23andme came out, and this whole forum too. Let white latinos alone, that nigga is exotic as fuck.
I could care less about that dude. I was just saying Spaniards could pass as "Latino" because their are white Latinos. It was because you mention dude being Iberian, but could pass as "Latino". Many races on this planet could pass as "Latino" since there are "Latinos" of many races.

[Isleño]

In fact, we would indeed be the true "latinos", along with the italian, the french, the portuguese, the romanian &c

The term "latino" in the Americas was born more like a political concept rather than an ethnic one.Yes, the true Latinos are those that Latin America was named after, the Latin Europeans. Very true. Unfortunately, in the Americas, the word Latino has come to mean any race of person from Latin America. But in a sense, they have become Latinized due to the influences of Latin Europeans and their languages and culture. But yes, you are right.

[Argentano]

Congrats Alnorte, interesting to see the difference between Ancestry Dna and 23andme, still similar caucasian/african/amerindian

[Heather Duval]

I could care less about that dude. I was just saying Spaniards could pass as "Latino" because their are white Latinos. It was because you mention dude being Iberian, but could pass as "Latino". Many races on this planet could pass as "Latino" since there are "Latinos" of many races.

No, you dumb. I said that dude looks like a MIXED latino, not a white latino. And also can pass for Turkish.

[Bradshaw]

Hi there, sock account of Carlitos :wave:

Now that you said it, I won't be able to sleep tonight :rolleyes:

You're still not white. You have more black admixture than Native American. Boy, you better make sure you change your ancestry description other wise mr magoo will do it for you :lol:. How does it feel having some of that nigger admixture you loathe so much? :lol: I will make sure that I will mark this day as a national holiday, hip hip hooray!

[Bradshaw]

Yes, the true Latinos are those that Latin America was named after, the Latin Europeans. Very true. Unfortunately, in the Americas, the word Latino has come to mean any race of person from Latin America. But in a sense, they have become Latinized due to the influences of Latin Europeans and their languages and culture. But yes, you are right.

Wtf? Who made you the gate keeper of Latin American phenotypes? The only thing you know is how to make YouTube videos in your spare time lol. You have some serious insecurities coming here in this forum schooling brown folks like me about what is considered white and what is not.

[alnortedelsur]

You're still not white. You have more black admixture than Native American. Boy, you better make sure you change your ancestry description other wise mr magoo will do it for you :lol:. How does it feel having some of that nigger admixture you loathe so much? :lol: I will make sure that I will mark this day as a national holiday, hip hip hooray!

I'm not more SSA than Amerindian, retard. I am not more than 6% SSA, and at least 7% Amerindian on ancestry DNA. And I am only 3.9% SSA, and almost 7% Amerindian on 23 Andme. In both of those companies, and in all other websites where I sent my raw data I am either as much Amerindian as SSA (in some gedmatch calculators) or more Amerindian than SSA (in most cases). Learn to count moron.

[alnortedelsur]

Congrats on your results! My sample just arrived to the ancestryDNA lab today. How long did take them to transfer it to the lab after it arrived? And how long did it take for your results to be ready from there?

Also, I guess our have to change "mostly Spanish, some slight italian mixture" to "mostly Italian, some slight Spanish admixture," cause it appears you're more Italian than Iberian ;) jkjkjk.

Indeed, see how much Italian I score, according to My Heritage:

https://i.imgur.com/FbH8P0m.png
https://i.imgur.com/6S92V3x.png

And according to DNA Land, I score 11% south Central European (which corresponds to Italy) and 13% Balkan, which could actually be part of my Italian heritage too, since Italy received some Balkan blood via Greeks and through human movements from territories of the current Balkan countries (ex-Yugoslavian republics) to the other shores of the Adriatic in the eastern Italian coasts, through history.

For me is cool to find out that I score more Italian than expected, but I'm really surprised about it.

The only explanations that come to my mind when I think about it (besides of having an Italian second grand grandpa from my Venezuelan dad's side), are:

That my Spanish mom is native from Mallorca, and that's something that could help to increase my Italian score. I think is very likely that eastern Spaniards (and particularly more Balearic Islanders) have more chances to score some more Italian on genetic tests than other Iberians.

That is very likely that my Venezuelan dad has some Canarian ancestry (some of his family last names are mostly common in Canary Islands) and Canary Islands were not only settled by Spanish and Portuguese, but also by some Italians, among others.

I know I might be wrong, but those are the only two explanations that come to my mind.

[Aurelio]

I'm not more SSA than Amerindian, retard. I am not more than 6% SSA, and at least 7% Amerindian on ancestry DNA. And I am only 3.9% SSA, and almost 7% Amerindian on 23 Andme. In both of those companies, and in all other websites where I sent my raw data I am either as much Amerindian as SSA (in some gedmatch calculators) or more Amerindian than SSA (in most cases). Learn to count moron.

You have around a balanced level of SSA and Amerindian (slightly more Native). However i think it's still not that much to make you a "Triracial" more like a Spanish of Colonial heritage.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Hi there, sock account of Carlitos :wave:

Now that you said it, I won't be able to sleep tonight :rolleyes:

Hes not carlito. Hes another old member who doesnt post here really anymore.

[Jana]

He is pred. European descended person with some native and SSA admixture= white Latino, usual and expected for the new world.
This people that make him feel bad about some minor african admixture are pathetic clowns. It's not like white-looking guy from US who has one European parent need to identify as ''man of color'' to satisfy someone's complexes.
And there is nothing bad about amerindian and SSA admixture, neither is he a triracial :picard1:
Should Finns with up to 10% Siberian admixture identify as mestizo, or med islanders of southern Europe with minor MENA admixture as ''brown'' ?
Don't make me laugh.


You have around a balanced level of SSA and Amerindian (slightly more Native). However i think it's still not that much to make you a "Triracial" more like a Spanish of Colonial heritage.
+1

[Heather Duval]

He is pred. European descended person with some native and SSA admixture= white Latino, usual and expected for the new world.
This people that make him feel bad about some minor african admixture are pathetic clowns. It's not like white-looking guy from US who has one European parent need to identify as ''man of color'' to satisfy someone's complexes.
And there is nothing bad about amerindian and SSA admixture, neither is he a triracial :picard1:
Should Finns with up to 10% Siberian admixture identify as mestizo, or med islanders of southern Europe with minor MENA admixture as ''brown'' ?
Don't make me laugh.


+1

He is a Euro tri racial. Likely over 13% non European, if we didnt count the north African too. Mn has the same % and people call him mixed in this forum, phenotype its nothing
Reasoning many Mexicans you think are white, has brothers who looks mestizos.

[alnortedelsur]

Hes not carlito. Hes another old member who doesnt post here really anymore.

He always appears when Carlitos is around. He might be a different poster, but it looks like if he was another account of Carlitos.

[Bradshaw]

Hes not carlito. Hes another old member who doesnt post here really anymore.

Your postings seem very familiar, who are you again?

[Aurelio]

Some Latin Americans are probably jealous of your result. They either want to be full Native or Full European, usually the latter.

[Survivor]

Some Latin Americans are probably jealous of your result. They either want to be full Native or Full European, usually the latter.

And that is the case because of the system of White Supremacy.

[Heather Duval]

If we latinos need so much to be white, why should be jealous of someone who is not even 91% European? Carlitos scored 96% Euro on Ancestry. Just saying

[alnortedelsur]

He is a Euro tri racial. Likely over 13% non European, if we didnt count the north African too. Mn has the same % and people call him mixed in this forum, phenotype its nothing
Reasoning many Mexicans you think are white, has brothers who looks mestizos.

Yeah sure, a "triracial" who is always mistaken for white North American by Latinos to whom I talk in Spanish, and they always respond saying things like "where did you learn Spanish?" or " Oh, I though you were a gringo", and who is always asked if he is Russian by white North Americans when they notice his foreign accent :rolleyes:

And none of my siblings look triracial, moron.

[Heather Duval]

Yeah sure, a "triracial" who is always mistaken for white North American by Latinos to whom I talk in Spanish, and always respond saying things like "where did you learn Spanish" or "I though you were a gringo", and who is always asked if he is Russian by white North Americans when they notice his foreign accent :rolleyes:

And none of my siblings look triracial, moron.

EURO TRI RACIAL, learn to read and learn that phenotype is not the same as genotype

[alnortedelsur]

EURO TRI RACIAL, learn to read and learn that phenotype is not the same as genotype

I'm not mixed enough to count as triracial. To be triracial you have to be more mixed with SSA and Amerindian and look triracial, retard.

[Heather Duval]

I'm not mixed enough to count as triracial. To be triracial you have to be more mixed with SSA and Amerindian and look triracial, retard.

You dont need to look mixed to be mixed.
Halsey is mixed herself and looks pred European
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20170211/120217_clive_davis_pre_grammy_gala/clive-davis-pre-grammy-gala-salute_5570873.jpg
Phenotype =/= genotype
Whats says you are mixed is your genotype, not your look
you are more than 12% non white, and thats enough
Euro tri racials doesnt look like A TRI RACIAL, they look white passing or something

[alnortedelsur]

You dont need to look mixed to be mixed.
Halsey is mixed herself and looks pred European
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20170211/120217_clive_davis_pre_grammy_gala/clive-davis-pre-grammy-gala-salute_5570873.jpg
Phenotype =/= genotype
Whats says you are mixed is your genotype, not your look
you are more than 12% non white, and thats enough
Euro tri racials doesnt look like A TRI RACIAL, they look white passing or something

:blah::blah::blah::blah:

yeah sure, whatever you say :rolleyes:

[Heather Duval]

:blah::blah::blah::blah:

yeah sure, whatever you say :rolleyes:

She is mixed like you, her genotype would tell. Her father is African american :lol:

[Isleño]

No, you dumb. I said that dude looks like a MIXED latino, not a white latino. And also can pass for Turkish.
....

[Heather Duval]

I'm far from dumb. I've been around here, you just got here, better ask somebody. You wrote "Latino", you didn't write "mixed Latino". .

If the phenotype is very important I have the right to consider such Iberians like Viriato not white because everyone could assume that nigga is a mixed latino or Turkish
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212981-Alnortedelsur-Ancestry-DNA-Results-are-Finally-Here/page6

[Isleño]

Yeah sure, a "triracial" who is always mistaken for white North American by Latinos to whom I talk in Spanish, and they always respond saying things like "where did you learn Spanish?" or " Oh, I though you were a gringo", and who is always asked if he is Russian by white North Americans when they notice his foreign accent :rolleyes:

And none of my siblings look triracial, moron.You are vastly European. To me you are white, just with a little admixture.

[Heather Duval]

You are vastly European. To me you are white, just with a little admixture.

Little = over 12% non white genes.

[Isleño]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212981-Alnortedelsur-Ancestry-DNA-Results-are-Finally-Here/page6
Ok cool. I take that part back about the mixed Latino. I was commenting out of memory. I should have checked the comment. But still, you are making this a big deal when it's not. All I said was any Spaniard (or Iberian) could be a white Latino. I don't know why you are making what I said a big deal.

[Heather Duval]

Ok cool. I take that part back about the mixed Latino. I was commenting out of memory. I should have checked the comment. But still, you are making this a big deal when it's not. All I said was any Spaniard (or Iberian) could be a white Latino. I don't know why you are making what I said a big deal.

I dont even replied your comment about that point :lol:

[Isleño]

Little = over 12% non white genes.
That's not a lot. In colonial times in Latin America, one could have as much as 13% admixture and be considered criollo (Creole- a local white Latino) So alnorte is similar to that, not the same, but not that far off. I see alnorte as white, with a little something extra.

[Isleño]

I dont even replied your comment about that point :lol:

Just drop it bro

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

That's not a lot. In colonial times in Latin America, one could have as much as 13% admixture and be considered criollo (Creole- a local white Latino) So alnorte is similar to that, not the same, but not that far off. I see alnorte as white, with a little something extra.

You have a source for that?

[Erronkari]

You are vastly European. To me you are white, just with a little admixture.

Absolutely agree.

[Argentano]

Alnorte es white !

[Carlito's Way]

Little = over 12% non white genes.

even alnorte claimed someone with more than 1% ssa couldnt be white or some shit like that LOL smh this is why niggas shouldnt talk unless theyve taken their dna test cause shit like this can bite a nigga right in the ass

i dont consider alnorte white at all and hes pred euro triracial because his percentages are almost balanced out, the same way its with puerto ricans
i think niggas are considering him white because they are friends with him and think by them claiming white will make him feel better LOL and we all know why, because whiteness is valued way too much in Latin America smh

if he has a son with a white girl, his son will be like me, yet we got sudaca niggas here making fake accounts on Youtube calling me Negrito (nigger) :lol: the irony

[Heather Duval]

and think by them claiming white will make him feel better LOL

He actually feels better because of it. But the funny is not that, they are saying " but he is only 6% black..." but in fact he is over 13% non European, or they think natives are white?

[Carlito's Way]

He actually feels better because of it. But the funny is not that, they are saying " but he is only 6% black..." but in fact he is over 13% non European, or they think natives are white?

he is 6% SSA, and AncestryDNA is better with the African because of its higher African reference samples
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2w5im8j.jpg

and 7% Amerindian
http://oi64.tinypic.com/2qcq92s.jpg



his Venezuelan parent will double what he is scoring, making them a lot more triracial, and who knows how his other Venezuelan family members would be scoring, again their percentages will be balanced out because Venezuela is a triracial nation and not a mestizo one, therefore its nothing surprising, I was more surprised he thought he didn't have any SSA because according to him none of his family members show SSA traits, and I thought that was dumb because phenotype doesnt equal genotype


but niggas here like I said will tell him they consider him white is only because they know how much latinos value whiteness and also because they are friends with him, but let that nigga one day trigger on them and they will started calling him a nigger or a white wannabe, and post his ancestry results everywhere and make fun of him because that is how niggas here are, if they do it me and im over 90% euro, but they do it to me because i dont kiss anyone's ass around here and i could also careless how they see me, i dont want to be white at all, so none of that shit fades me


trust me niggas, you will not hurt any latino here if you dont consider them white, unless they are self haters


this is every race ancient mother, she is a black woman, creator of all races and where all haplogroups originated from
https://0515f2af61d5e3d37aec-a1d11e7882f6a6aa49a62729309b6434.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/2017/05/POC_Aclan.jpg

http://www.kerchner.com/images/dna/mtdna_migrationmap_(FTDNA2006).jpg



why should we allow whites make us feel ashamed of our blackness, black heritage, black roots, and mother africa??? they come from us, we dont come from them
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/89/e0/84/89e084fcc3d809e488cd8d7bdb4e3f67.jpg

[Heather Duval]

he is 6% SSA, and AncestryDNA is better with the African because of its higher African reference samples
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2w5im8j.jpg

and 7% Amerindian
http://oi64.tinypic.com/2qcq92s.jpg



his Venezuelan parent will double what he is scoring, making them a lot more triracial, and who knows how his other Venezuelan family members would be scoring, again their percentages will be balanced out because Venezuela is a triracial nation and not a mestizo one, therefore its nothing surprising, I was more surprised he thought he didn't have any SSA because according to him none of his family members show SSA traits, and I thought that was dumb because phenotype doesnt equal genotype


but niggas here like I said will tell him they consider him white is only because they know how much latinos value whiteness and also because they are friends with him, but let that nigga one day trigger on them and they will started calling him a nigger or a white wannabe, and post his ancestry results everywhere and make fun of him because that is how niggas here are, if they do it me and im over 90% euro, but they do it to me because i dont kiss anyone's ass around here and i could also careless how they see me, i dont want to be white at all, so none of that shit fades me


trust me niggas, you will not hurt any latino here if you dont consider them white, unless they are self haters


this is every race ancient mother, she is a black woman, creator of all races and where all haplogroups originated from
https://0515f2af61d5e3d37aec-a1d11e7882f6a6aa49a62729309b6434.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/2017/05/POC_Aclan.jpg

http://www.kerchner.com/images/dna/mtdna_migrationmap_(FTDNA2006).jpg



why should we allow whites make us feel ashamed of our blackness, black heritage, black roots, and mother africa??? they come from us, we dont come from them
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/89/e0/84/89e084fcc3d809e488cd8d7bdb4e3f67.jpg
That black woman looks like a black girl ive studied with, but she is a bit lighter
Same traits, face etc
Yes, Just look how they treat me and you here: Sometimes I am mulatto, then tri racial, then black for them just because I dont kiss anyone ass here and i am not a self hated.

[Argentano]

yet we got sudaca niggas here making fake accounts on Youtube calling me Negrito (nigger) :lol: the irony

who are you talking about? I am the only "sudaca" here who has called you a nigger several times, but i didnt do any youtube video/account. I have honestly no idea what you are talking about.

Check things before saying bullshit

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

He always appears when Carlitos is around. He might be a different poster, but it looks like if he was another account of Carlitos.
Hes not carlito. Ive been here alot longer than you. And he rarely ever posted here. He was another account of someone.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

he is 6% SSA, and AncestryDNA is better with the African because of its higher African reference samples
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2w5im8j.jpg

and 7% Amerindian
http://oi64.tinypic.com/2qcq92s.jpg



his Venezuelan parent will double what he is scoring, making them a lot more triracial, and who knows how his other Venezuelan family members would be scoring, again their percentages will be balanced out because Venezuela is a triracial nation and not a mestizo one, therefore its nothing surprising, I was more surprised he thought he didn't have any SSA because according to him none of his family members show SSA traits, and I thought that was dumb because phenotype doesnt equal genotype


but niggas here like I said will tell him they consider him white is only because they know how much latinos value whiteness and also because they are friends with him, but let that nigga one day trigger on them and they will started calling him a nigger or a white wannabe, and post his ancestry results everywhere and make fun of him because that is how niggas here are, if they do it me and im over 90% euro, but they do it to me because i dont kiss anyone's ass around here and i could also careless how they see me, i dont want to be white at all, so none of that shit fades me


trust me niggas, you will not hurt any latino here if you dont consider them white, unless they are self haters


this is every race ancient mother, she is a black woman, creator of all races and where all haplogroups originated from
https://0515f2af61d5e3d37aec-a1d11e7882f6a6aa49a62729309b6434.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/2017/05/POC_Aclan.jpg

http://www.kerchner.com/images/dna/mtdna_migrationmap_(FTDNA2006).jpg



why should we allow whites make us feel ashamed of our blackness, black heritage, black roots, and mother africa??? they come from us, we dont come from them
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/89/e0/84/89e084fcc3d809e488cd8d7bdb4e3f67.jpg
He didnt realize his dad was tri racial and now hes exposed.

[Argentano]

He didnt realize his dad was tri racial and now hes exposed.

alnorte is an 87% european latin american. If we talk about "common" latinos he could only be a white cuban or white brazilian. Those are considered whites in latin america.

[RN97]

He's not white period. He can identify as a "white latino", but that would destroy the meaning of white... White= Someone of European decent. There are some admixture you can have, but IMO even 5% is stretching it. 15+% is just not white at all. I haven't seen a clear photo of him, but I told him before this test that he didn't look fully European to me based upon a unclear photo of him I saw. He admitted before this test that he did indeed have amerindian admixture so I just figured that it was the reason. The photo was to unclear for me to pinpoint SSA so IDK. At around 5-6% SSA, he might have no visible SSA, it's happened before.
On a different note, this forum has thought me that Latin America is sort of a warning of the dangers of mixing relating to identity issues and inferiority complexes...

[Heather Duval]

alnorte is an 87% european latin american. If we talk about "common" latinos he could only be a white cuban or white brazilian. Those are considered whites in latin america.

lol
dont forget brazilians consider mariah carey white
https://br.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130413094222AAEzXdz

[Argentano]

He's not white period. He can identify as a "white latino", but that would destroy the meaning of white... White= Someone of European decent. There are some admixture you can have, but IMO even 5% is stretching it. 15+% is just not white at all. I haven't seen a clear photo of him, but I told him before this test that he didn't look fully European to me based upon a unclear photo of him I saw. He admitted before this test that he did indeed have amerindian admixture so I just figured that it was the reason. The photo was to unclear for me to pinpoint SSA so IDK. At around 5-6% SSA, he might have no visible SSA, it's happened before.
On a different note, this forum has thought me that Latin America is sort of a warning of the dangers of mixing relating to identity issues and inferiority complexes...

He identifies as white because he looks white and is 86% european. The same way a brazilian who is 70% SSA 30% european will identify as black.

whats the inferiority complex in the brazilian? that he identifies as black even when he is 30% euro? he is ashamed of being euro? People identify depending on how they look like. Its not as complicated as you want it to be.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

alnorte is an 87% european latin american. If we talk about "common" latinos he could only be a white cuban or white brazilian. Those are considered whites in latin america.

hes not a white cuban or a white Brazilian

[Heather Duval]

hes not a white cuban or a white Brazilian

im trying to figure out what kind of " white" brazilian he would be
like this(the daughter of german immigrants)
http://www.correiodeuberlandia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/vera.jpg
or someone like Roberto grande? Both are considered white here, Roberto even told he was never considered pardo or mixed in this country because light skin means white here

[alnortedelsur]

He's not white period. He can identify as a "white latino", but that would destroy the meaning of white... White= Someone of European decent. There are some admixture you can have, but IMO even 5% is stretching it. 15+% is just not white at all. I haven't seen a clear photo of him, but I told him before this test that he didn't look fully European to me based upon a unclear photo of him I saw. He admitted before this test that he did indeed have amerindian admixture so I just figured that it was the reason. The photo was to unclear for me to pinpoint SSA so IDK. At around 5-6% SSA, he might have no visible SSA, it's happened before.
On a different note, this forum has thought me that Latin America is sort of a warning of the dangers of mixing relating to identity issues and inferiority complexes...

I don't give a shit if you consider me white or not.

[alnortedelsur]

hes not a white cuban or a white Brazilian

No, I am a white Venezuelan... or wait... lets better say that I am a mostly Euro descent Venezuelan, because I don't wannabe judged as a white wannabe.

I have always said that I don't give a fuck about being full European, but that I am mostly Euro is absolutely true, and I have all my right to identify myself as such.

[Argentano]

hes not a white cuban or a white Brazilian

I meant people scoring like that are very euro for latin american standards and wil be considered white.


im trying to figure out what kind of " white" brazilian he would be
like this(the daughter of german immigrants)

or someone like Roberto grande? Both are considered white here, Roberto even told he was never considered pardo or mixed in this country because light skin means white here

White brazilians are heavily euro in genetic studies. I meant an average for white brazilian(85% euro).


No, I am a white Venezuelan... or wait... lets better say that I am a mostly Euro descent Venezuelan, because I don't wannabe judged as a white wannabe.

I have always said that I don't give a fuck about being full European, but that I am mostly Euro is absolutely true, and I have all my right to identify myself as such.

Thats the part i dont get you always said that you were pred european with some admixture. Your genetic study came out like that. Whats the big problem?

[alnortedelsur]

im trying to figure out what kind of " white" brazilian he would be
like this(the daughter of german immigrants)
http://www.correiodeuberlandia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/vera.jpg
or someone like Roberto grande? Both are considered white here, Roberto even told he was never considered pardo or mixed in this country because light skin means white here

You don't get tired of saying stupidities after stupidities.

[Heather Duval]

I meant people scoring like that are very euro for latin american standards and wil be considered white.



White brazilians are heavily euro in genetic studies. I meant an average for white brazilian(85% euro).



Thats the part i dont get you always said that you were pred european with some admixture. Your genetic study came out like that. Whats the big problem?

No, these people are not white or white Brazilian, they believe to be. Real white Brazilian are Alessandra Ambrosio, Gisele etc they are more than 97% Euro FOR SURE.
"Thats the part i dont get you always said that you were pred european with some admixture. " So Roberto grande, and OP used to blame him a lot. Ro is about 70-82 white.

[alnortedelsur]

He didnt realize his dad was tri racial and now hes exposed.

My father must score at least 74% Euro, and at least 14% Amerindian. Very far from the stereotypical triracial that comes to people's minds.

And guess what?? He doesn't show any African traits whatsoever.

Many people with 12% SSA admixture (which is the maximum he could score) don't show any African traits.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

even alnorte claimed someone with more than 1% ssa couldnt be white or some shit like that LOL smh this is why niggas shouldnt talk unless theyve taken their dna test cause shit like this can bite a nigga right in the ass

i dont consider alnorte white at all and hes pred euro triracial because his percentages are almost balanced out, the same way its with puerto ricans
i think niggas are considering him white because they are friends with him and think by them claiming white will make him feel better LOL and we all know why, because whiteness is valued way too much in Latin America smh

if he has a son with a white girl, his son will be like me, yet we got sudaca niggas here making fake accounts on Youtube calling me Negrito (nigger) :lol: the irony

Yeah brah and that stupid sudaca also is posting to me on my videos saying bullshit with it. The butthurt sudaca nigga who made it trying to hard.

[Heather Duval]

Yeah brah and that stupid sudaca also is posting to me on my videos saying bullshit with it. The butthurt sudaca nigga who made it trying to hard.

what videos are u guys talking about?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

what videos are u guys talking about?

There is a pussy ass sudaca nigga making fake accounts of Carlitos on Youtube calling himself "negrito" and at sametime saying rubbish to me too, calling me basically a "negrito" too.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Who, I won't throw a name here. That remains in queation right now. But this phony clown seems to know Spanish. All I will say is, who ever he is, he's a bitch. He's a bitch ass puto.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

My father must score at least 74% Euro, and at least 14% Amerindian. Very far from the stereotypical triracial that comes to people's minds.

And guess what?? He doesn't show any African traits whatsoever.

Many people with 12% SSA admixture (which is the maximum he could score) don't show any African traits.

he was likely 12 percent ssa and 14 amerindian. Thats tri racial

[Leto]

He's not white period. He can identify as a "white latino", but that would destroy the meaning of white... White= Someone of European decent. There are some admixture you can have, but IMO even 5% is stretching it. 15+% is just not white at all. I haven't seen a clear photo of him, but I told him before this test that he didn't look fully European to me based upon a unclear photo of him I saw. He admitted before this test that he did indeed have amerindian admixture so I just figured that it was the reason. The photo was to unclear for me to pinpoint SSA so IDK. At around 5-6% SSA, he might have no visible SSA, it's happened before.
On a different note, this forum has thought me that Latin America is sort of a warning of the dangers of mixing relating to identity issues and inferiority complexes...
Well, 'white' is not really an Old World term originially, to begin with. That all depends on the country as well. In South America people like Alnorte are obviously white, I would guess. Compare him to the likes of Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales. Come on, folks, the guy's like 7/8 European, what's your problem with him? Nobody has a problem with Barack Obama's daughters being black, although they are at least 30% European (Barack is 50%, Michelle must be at least 10% or higher). Virtually everyone here would agree they are 'black' or African-American.

IMO even 5% is stretching it. 15+% is just not white at all.
For the record. Full Russians with four Russian grandparents can have up to 10% Siberian/East Asian. I'm saying it based on like 150-200 GEDmatch samples I have. I'm personally between 5 and 8% Asian on various calculators (I usually go for 6% or so).

[Isleño]

alnorte is an 87% european latin american. If we talk about "common" latinos he could only be a white cuban or white brazilian. Those are considered whites in latin america.

Not to mention African American blacks are up to 30% European regularly with a 20% median European score and are seen as blacks by the world. No one ever questions their blackness. Al Norte is just as white as many people that live lives as whites, all over the Americas. Case-in-point, I know a Cajun guy here in Louisiana in the southern US that lives life as white, never once questioned. He took a DNA test and was 83% European, 11% Amerindian and 6% black (I have his results for proof) He is an exception, because most Cajuns descend from fully European ancestry. But he was living life as a white person. So were his parents (this may have been central to their particular family and the admixtures were probably spread out through the family) None were ever questioned because they were predominantly white and looked like whites. It's only because of a DNA test he found this, but if he would never have tested, he would have thought his genetics were the exact same as all the other Cajuns he lived around.

That's because terms like white, black, brown, yellow and red are all social race and one doesn't even need to be purely of the core descent to be a member, they just have to be predominant of the core descent and look like that descent. social race and biological race is not always the same. Another guy I know here in Louisiana identified as a white person. He took a test and it identified that he was 17% Amerind. He has blond hair and blue eyes and looks like he came from northern Germany or something. Well the majority of his ancestry was in fact German. He was from a community 45 miles outside of New Orleans where Germans settled during colonial times. It's likely the Amerind was Choctaw. Anyway, he was shocked, because he and his entire family was living life as pure white people. So I see al Norte as like these people.

[Rethel]

I'm personally between 5 and 8% Asian on various calculators (I usually go for 6% or so).

Not only a jewrej, but also a cziurka... :laugh:


what's your problem with him?

None. We just razgawariwajem.
Rether you used to have such kind of problems...

But nice too know, that you are ready
to defend your israelitish little brother :thumb001:

[Leto]

Not only a jewrej, but also a cziurka... :laugh:
Please spare me this shit. I don't come here for stupid trolling like that. Don't bother me if you have nothing serious to say, will you?

[Rethel]

why should we allow whites make us feel ashamed of our blackness, black heritage, black roots, and mother africa??? they come from us, we dont come from them

Make all people black again? :confused:

[Rethel]

Please spare me this shit. I don't come here for stupid trolling like that. Don't bother me if you have nothing serious to say, will you?

I just imitate you... Not fine, when it is directed into your direction? Interesting...

[Leto]

I just imitate you... Not fine, when it is directed into your direction? Interesting...
Why the hell are you obsessed with me? I don't pick on anyone. You made up a silly joke and keep repeating it, although it has literally no truth, nor fun in it. So I'm asking you again: leave me alone, I don't like you and don't want to waste my time on you.

[alnortedelsur]

Not to mention African American blacks are up to 30% European regularly with a 20% median European score and are seen as blacks by the world. No one ever questions their blackness. Al Norte is just as white as many people that live lives as whites, all over the Americas. Case-in-point, I know a Cajun guy here in Louisiana in the southern US that lives life as white, never once questioned. He took a DNA test and was 83% European, 11% Amerindian and 6% black (I have his results for proof) He is an exception, because most Cajuns descend from fully European ancestry. But he was living life as a white person. So were his parents (this may have been central to their particular family and the admixtures were probably spread out through the family) None were ever questioned because they were predominantly white and looked like whites. It's only because of a DNA test he found this, but if he would never have tested, he would have thought his genetics were the exact same as all the other Cajuns he lived around.

That's because terms like white, black, brown, yellow and red are all social race and one doesn't even need to be purely of the core descent to be a member, they just have to be predominant of the core descent and look like that descent. social race and biological race is not always the same. Another guy I know here in Louisiana identified as a white person. He took a test and it identified that he was 17% Amerind. He has blond hair and blue eyes and looks like he came from northern Germany or something. Well the majority of his ancestry was in fact German. He was from a community 45 miles outside of New Orleans where Germans settled during colonial times. It's likely the Amerind was Choctaw. Anyway, he was shocked, because he and his entire family was living life as pure white people. So I see al Norte as like these people.

Same happens to me IRL, I have fair skin, medium/light brown hair (depending on the lighting) and blue eyes, and I am always seen as white, and never questioned as being mixed anywhere I go. And here in US I am never seen as "latino" but assumed as being a regular white North American, until I open my mouth and they notice my foreign accent, and when that happens, they always ask me if I am from Russia, and things like that. Go and figure how "triracial" I look, lol.

[Isleño]

You have a source for that?

It comes from this literature

https://utpress.utexas.edu/books/carima

This is the quote " According to the Casta system, a criollo could have up to 1/8 Amerindian ancestry without losing social place."

[Rethel]

Why the hell are you obsessed with me? I don't pick on anyone. You made up a silly joke and keep repeating it, although it has literally no truth, nor fun in it. So I'm asking you again: leave me alone, I don't like you and don't want to waste my time on you.

Don't be so butthurt chinky jewish bro... keep easy :)
As long as you are racist and autosomalist you must bear this burden :p

p.s. what is untrue?
You have enaugh jewish-like autosomal for at least grandma
to be one, and you yousefl said, that you are kitajec:


I'm personally between 5 and 8% Asian on various calculators (I usually go for 6% or so).

If au is important then you are chinky, and if race is important than you are a metis.

:laugh:

[Isleño]

he was likely 12 percent ssa and 14 amerindian. Thats tri racial

In my community, we call it "tornatrás" is white/near white (appears phenotypically white) born from a Euro dominant mixed race person mixing with a white person to produce a white/near white person (appears phenotypically white). The name implies to turn back into white.

[Isleño]

Same happens to me IRL, I have fair skin, medium/light brown hair (depending on the lighting) and blue eyes, and I am always seen as white, and never questioned as being mixed anywhere I go. And here in US I am never seen as "latino" but assumed as being a regular white North American, until I open my mouth and they notice my foreign accent, and when that happens, they always ask me if I am from Russia, and things like that. Go and figure how "triracial" I look, lol.
Yes, you are like the people I described. I'm in a similar situation as you. I'm Canarian Spanish. I've DNA tested and I am 90% European 10% North African. I look completely European. I identify as white race of Hispanic origin (Hispanic white). I never in my life anyone think I was North African. So I wouldn't worry about what some people here say. If you look white and everyone sees you as white and you live life as white, then you are white.

Next time someone disagrees, bring up the black Americans that NO ONE has a problem with as far as blackness or ever questions, yet are admixed with 30% European commonly and 20% European on average. They are seen as black 100% of the time.

[RN97]

He identifies as white because he looks white and is 86% european. The same way a brazilian who is 70% SSA 30% european will identify as black.

whats the inferiority complex in the brazilian? that he identifies as black even when he is 30% euro? he is ashamed of being euro? People identify depending on how they look like. Its not as complicated as you want it to be.

I wasn't specifically talking about him. Clearly in latin America there seems to be a "prestige" to identify as white so obviously I feel like when even people who are only 60% European try to find their identity within Spaniards it's crazy. It's clear to me that a lot of people from latin America feel like they have no real identity as "Mexican", "Brazilian" etc. just doesn't cut it. It's not really a proper identity. In the USA, the prestige of identifying as white is pretty much gone, however the thirst for a proper identity among mixed latinos is still there. Just look at this video:

https://youtu.be/NO5fBC8ly1U
Does that fella really look black? I've seen other people like that with lightish eyes, light brown skin etc. claiming they're just black when they're clearly mixed..... It is actually as complicated as I make it out to be because people can't grasp the idea of themselves being (no offence) basically mongrels. Rather they claim to be Native, white or black.... Do you think that 30% white "black" guy would be accepted in Nigeria as a Nigerian? I doubt it seriously..... Latin America is basically a place filled with people struggling to find a identity as many feel that their nationality isn't cutting it for obvious reasons....
http://i.imgur.com/k0eiKZO.jpg

[Annie999]

I really can't imagine a situation where someone scores 85% SSA, looks black, identifies as black but people around desperately try to convince him that he can't be black because of the remaining percentage of something else. Apparently for blacks, asians or arabs is not necesary to score 100% to be concidered that, but for europeans suddenly the one drop rule is applied .

[RN97]

I really can't imagine a situation where someone scores 85% SSA, looks black, identifies as black but people around desperately try to convince him that he can't be black because of the remaining percentage of something else. Apparently for blacks, asians or arabs is not necesary to score 100% to be concidered that, but for europeans suddenly the one drop rule is applied .

1. Caucasians have more recessive traits so it's harder to identify white admixture in mostly black persons than the other way around.
2. IDK where you're talking about, but if you told a Norwegian you were 85% SSA and 15% white, you'd be considered mixed, not black or African.

[Survivor]

I really can't imagine a situation where someone scores 85% SSA, looks black, identifies as black but people around desperately try to convince him that he can't be black because of the remaining percentage of something else. Apparently for blacks, asians or arabs is not necesary to score 100% to be concidered that, but for europeans suddenly the one drop rule is applied .

To be fair, this is to blame on White people themselves. It is mostly Whites who went around saying any drop of Black makes you Black.

[Annie999]

1. Caucasians have more recessive traits so it's harder to identify white admixture in mostly black persons than the other way around.
2. IDK where you're talking about, but if you told a Norwegian you were 85% SSA and 15% white, you'd be considered mixed, not black or African.

The real world is not TA. People dont go speaking of racial percentages. If you look white you are white, if you look mixed you are mixed and so on. This argument about whether alnortedelsur is concidered white or not is pointless, once he logs out from TA he'll be concidered white again.

[Leto]

1. Caucasians have more recessive traits so it's harder to identify white admixture in mostly black persons than the other way around.
2. IDK where you're talking about, but if you told a Norwegian you were 85% SSA and 15% white, you'd be considered mixed, not black or African.
Nah. I'm pretty sure half-Norwegian mulattos are seen as black in Norway by many people.
By the way, Alnorte looks pretty European, he even has light eyes. Which is not surprising given that he is not your typical South American.

[Leto]

I feel like when even people who are only 60% European try to find their identity within Spaniards it's crazy.
If they are 60% Spanish, at least hypothetically, why can't they identify with Spain? You identify with Romania, although you are half Romanian and were born in Norway and assimilated there completely. By the same token, Alnorte can as well identify with Spain, 'cause he has both recent and older/colonial Spanish ancestry. He also speaks Spanish as a first language, which is also very important for one's identity.

[Benacer]

To be fair, this is to blame on White people themselves. It is mostly Whites who went around saying any drop of Black makes you Black.

Mostly a North American thing. This is not the case here in the South, just more recently there has been a trend of people who are clearly mixed or even mostly Euro to identify as their non-Euro ancestry and ignore all the rest, due to North American influence and identity politics. People normally just went by what they looked like, which in the case of Latin America a lot of the time is not identical with the genetic background.

[RN97]

If they are 60% Spanish, at least hypothetically, why can't they identify with Spain? You identify with Romania, although you are half Romanian and were born in Norway and assimilated there completely. By the same token, Alnorte can as well identify with Spain, 'cause he has both recent and older/colonial Spanish ancestry. He also speaks Spanish as a first language, which is also very important for one's identity.

I identify more with Norway and Norwegians, but I never deny being of mixed European ancestry. I've never claimed to be Norwegian or Romanian, but a mix of the two.

[Survivor]

Mostly a North American thing. This is not the case here in the South, just more recently there has been a trend of people who are clearly mixed or even mostly Euro to identify as their non-Euro ancestry and ignore all the rest, due to North American influence and identity politics. People normally just went by what they looked like, which in the case of Latin America a lot of the time is not identical with the genetic background.

But in Brazil, people of African ancestry were/are usually called Black, even the light-skinned ones, no? Would Neymar be called mixed 100 years ago? Especially with his natural curly hair?

[Survivor]

If they are 60% Spanish, at least hypothetically, why can't they identify with Spain? You identify with Romania, although you are half Romanian and were born in Norway and assimilated there completely. By the same token, Alnorte can as well identify with Spain, 'cause he has both recent and older/colonial Spanish ancestry. He also speaks Spanish as a first language, which is also very important for one's identity.

Can Neymar identify as Portuguese? LOL.

[Benacer]

But in Brazil, people of African ancestry were/are usually called Black, even the light-skinned ones, no? Would Neymar be called mixed 100 years ago? Especially with his natural curly hair?

It really depends on how African they look. Neymar isn't really considered Black here, he's more like pardo or "brown". This is just a formality either way, as in just a characteristic which most people who aren't involved with identity politics wouldn't expect to be a defining trait of his self-image or personality.

[Jana]

even alnorte claimed someone with more than 1% ssa couldnt be white or some shit like that LOL smh this is why niggas shouldnt talk unless theyve taken their dna test cause shit like this can bite a nigga right in the ass
i dont consider alnorte white at all and hes pred euro triracial because his percentages are almost balanced out, the same way its with puerto ricans
i think niggas are considering him white because they are friends with him and think by them claiming white will make him feel better LOL and we all know why, because whiteness is valued way too much in Latin America smh
if he has a son with a white girl, his son will be like me, yet we got sudaca niggas here making fake accounts on Youtube calling me Negrito (nigger) :lol: the irony

He isn't a triracial neither would anyone in Europe consider him so. Puerto-Ricans, please, I went to school with them, they are true triracials and look more exotic than average Gypsie on average.
I saw his pictures and he looks European white and while he isn't ''White European'' but ''White Latino'' nobody would notice him in Europe, he wouldn't stand out a bit. Keep in mind many pure Europeans look more exotic/swarthy than him without SSA/amerindian admixture and nobody considers them foreign kind in their own continent.

Your post about him being triracial (utter bu***t) was tumbed up by two non-Europeans, Heather and Loki MN who doesn't look European but mixed Latino. I am fully European with nordic phenotype and to me he looks white.
Nobody in Europe cares so much about whiteness , one drop rule.....and other similar shit coming from new world where people without much identity seek ways to compensate their confusion.

His mom is European, his father Latin American, he has right to embrace both sides of his identity without being called ''tri-racial.''

[Leto]

Can Neymar identify as Portuguese? LOL.
I didn't say AS, I said WITH. I don't know how much Portuguese Neymar is, but obviously Alnorte is much more Spanish than Neymar is Portuguese. Also, he has a Spanish mother. Does Neymar have a Portuguese mother? No.
I blame liberalism for that nonsense. It systematically discourages people from identifying with their European roots. To them identiying with your black/Amerindian great-grandparent is fine, but with your European parent is not.

[Isleño]

He isn't a triracial neither would anyone in Europe consider him so. Puerto-Ricans, please, I went to school with them, they are true triracials and look more exotic than average Gypsie on average.
I saw his pictures and he looks European white and while he isn't ''White European'' but ''White Latino'' nobody would notice him in Europe, he wouldn't stand out a bit. Keep in mind many pure Europeans look more exotic/swarthy than him without SSA/amerindian admixture and nobody considers them foreign kind in their own continent.

Your post about him being triracial (utter bu***t) was tumbed up by two non-Europeans, Heather and Loki MN who doesn't look European but mixed Latino. I am fully European with nordic phenotype and to me he looks white.
Nobody in Europe cares so much about whiteness , one drop rule.....and other similar shit coming from new world where people without much identity seek ways to compensate their confusion.

His mom is European, his father Latin American, he has right to embrace both sides of his identity without being called ''tri-racial.''
Well said :thumb001:

[Rethel]

Also, he has a Spanish mother.
Does Neymar have a Portuguese mother? No.

You see, jewishness is even in your mentality :p

Please, do not inforce talmudic teachings on Spanish
people. They are normal IEs and Christians. Keep your
jewish nonsense in synagoge, where it belongs. Thanx.

[RN97]

All these Europeans claiming he is white are probably the same ones that would approve of their sisters, daughters etc. getting married with him based upon his genetic results, but that's none of my bithnith.

[Ylla]

All these Europeans claiming he is white are probably the same ones that would approve of their sisters, daughters etc. getting married with him based upon his genetic results, but that's none of my bithnith.

Have you seen where he plots? More northern than Greek Albanian and Italian members for sure & just below iberians :)

[RN97]

Have you seen where he plots? More northern than Greek Albanian and Italian members

The amerindian does that and most calculators made for Europeans won't really work if you're mixed, but where did he post that?

[Leto]

All these Europeans claiming he is white are probably the same ones that would approve of their sisters, daughters etc. getting married with him based upon his genetic results, but that's none of my bithnith.
His children with a fully European wife would be over 90% European genetically. What is your problem?:confused:

[RN97]

His children with a fully European wife would be over 90% European genetically. What is your problem?:confused:

lol, I have no problem, I was just stating my opinion. Is his genetic results an attack on him now, lol? Is 23andme and ancestryDNA trolling him?
I never attacked him, I just stated my opinion, that's all.

[Argentano]

But in Brazil, people of African ancestry were/are usually called Black, even the light-skinned ones, no? Would Neymar be called mixed 100 years ago? Especially with his natural curly hair?


Can Neymar identify as Portuguese? LOL.

Neymar is a pardo. He probably scores around 60% euro yet people will consider him a pardo (light black).

Im not saying somebody who is 60% euro should be considered white (even when they are predominantely white) but 87% i almost all your anacestry, its a complete different thing.

if somebody who is 50% SSA can indentify as black, i dont get why somebody who is 87% euro cannot identify as white.

And its not a matter of being complexed its a matter of identifying depending on both your genotype (87% euro) and phenotype (white)

[Argentano]

lol, I have no problem, I was just stating my opinion. Is his genetic results an attack on him now, lol? Is 23andme and ancestryDNA trolling him?
I never attacked him, I just stated my opinion, that's all.

you dont seem to be attacking him but you know that several users in this thread are trying to troll him

[Erronkari]

Neymar is a pardo. He probably scores around 60% euro yet people will consider him a pardo (light black).

Im not saying somebody who is 60% euro should be considered white (even when they are predominantely white) but 87% i almost all your anacestry, its a complete different thing.

if somebody who is 50% SSA can indentify as black, i dont get why somebody who is 87% euro cannot identify as white.

And its not a matter of being complexed its a matter of identifying depending on both your genotype (87% euro) and phenotype (white)

Something like 60 euro, 30 SSA and 10 Native American I guess...

[Survivor]

Neymar is a pardo. He probably scores around 60% euro yet people will consider him a pardo (light black).

Im not saying somebody who is 60% euro should be considered white (even when they are predominantely white) but 87% i almost all your anacestry, its a complete different thing.

if somebody who is 50% SSA can indentify as black, i dont get why somebody who is 87% euro cannot identify as white.

And its not a matter of being complexed its a matter of identifying depending on both your genotype (87% euro) and phenotype (white)

But can you seriously picture a guy like Neymar saying he identifies WITH his Portuguese ancestry? It would be laughable, right?

[Rethel]

lol, I have no problem, I was just stating my opinion. Is his genetic results an attack on him now, lol? Is 23andme and ancestryDNA trolling him?
I never attacked him, I just stated my opinion, that's all.

Good point.
But some racists have always problem
with such stuff so they troll themselves.

[Argentano]

But can you seriously picture a guy like Neymar saying he identifies WITH his Portuguese ancestry? It would be laughable, right?

i would have found that laughable 2 years ago. I dont nowadays.

[Argentano]

niggers please vote here

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213465-What-of-euro-blood-is-your-limit-to-consider-somebody-white

[Survivor]

i would have found that laughable 2 years ago. I dont nowadays.

99% would find it laughable, including "Pardos" themselves.

[Leto]

lol, I have no problem, I was just stating my opinion. Is his genetic results an attack on him now, lol? Is 23andme and ancestryDNA trolling him?
I never attacked him, I just stated my opinion, that's all.
Well, as soon as he posted his results, some people appeared and started calling him triracial and non-white. I didn't mean you exactly.
I think we should make it clear: 1) Alnorte is overwhelmingly European by ancestry 2) He has light skin and eyes. So I don't see anything strange if he identifies with his main ancestry. Should he identify as Amerindian or African? I guess he identifies first and foremost with Spain and Venezuela, not with some generic 'Europeanness'. Just as you identify with Norway and Romania.

[Rethel]

Should he identify as Amerindian or African?

Definitly not.
He is a Semite (maybe even an Israelite)
and he should identyfy himself according
to who he really is, little kaifeng bro... ;)

[Rethel]

niggers please vote here

Only niggers are autosomalorards, or being an autosomalotard makes someone a nigger?

[Argentano]

Only niggers are autosomalorards, or being autosomalotard makes someone a nigger?

both

[Carlito's Way]

who are you talking about? I am the only "sudaca" here who has called you a nigger several times, but i didnt do any youtube video/account. I have honestly no idea what you are talking about.

Check things before saying bullshit

the shoe fits you nigga, dont make me put your families info online, my nigga will make a youtube video about you and your friends, keep playing with me you sand nigger and i will do some major exposing

[Carlito's Way]

He isn't a triracial neither would anyone in Europe consider him so. Puerto-Ricans, please, I went to school with them, they are true triracials and look more exotic than average Gypsie on average.
I saw his pictures and he looks European white and while he isn't ''White European'' but ''White Latino'' nobody would notice him in Europe, he wouldn't stand out a bit. Keep in mind many pure Europeans look more exotic/swarthy than him without SSA/amerindian admixture and nobody considers them foreign kind in their own continent.

Your post about him being triracial (utter bu***t) was tumbed up by two non-Europeans, Heather and Loki MN who doesn't look European but mixed Latino. I am fully European with nordic phenotype and to me he looks white.
Nobody in Europe cares so much about whiteness , one drop rule.....and other similar shit coming from new world where people without much identity seek ways to compensate their confusion.

His mom is European, his father Latin American, he has right to embrace both sides of his identity without being called ''tri-racial.''

its not up to you, even Cristiano Viejo voted that you needed to be 100% European to be considered white, and sorry nigga but his ancestry (majority of it) comes from Spain, therefore not even Spaniards would consider him white at all
i dont give a fuck what you consider white or if he looks white, genetically speaking he is not white he is 13% non-white, hes not white

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

the shoe fits you nigga, dont make me put your families info online, my nigga will make a youtube video about you and your friends, keep playing with me you sand nigger and i will do some major exposing

He told me it's not him...Wonder who can be...But the motherfucker who ever it is, is fuckin with the best here. If want war we give war.

Who uses those words make the list.

[Smitty]

Mulattoes being considered black is irrelevant. Of course, whites consider them black; we recognize deviation from our average more easily than deviation from the black average. And just because blacks have a loose standard for themselves doesn't mean whites must also.

Alnortedelsur is getting a lot of flak here, and that's regrettable. I don't care what race he considers himself. But I am getting tired of the South American crowd consistently getting their panties in a twist over the fact that 87% white isn't white in the US (and possibly in Europe; I'll leave that to the Europeans). You all have a looser standard, and that's fine. But don't be surprised if others disagree.

[Argentano]

the shoe fits you nigga, dont make me put your families info online, my nigga will make a youtube video about you and your friends, keep playing with me you sand nigger and i will do some major exposing

dude are you a retard? im telling you i dont have idea what you are talking about. I had your pics for 2 years and never posted them nor shared them with anybody. I only posted them because you dared me to do it. I also have pics of martin family and your family. Do you see them psoted anywhere? NO, because I stopped trolling as arranged with martin.

So shut the fuck up and leave me away of your stupid internet fights. I am not the ones who is trolling you. And i have no idea who he is.

[Argentano]

the shoe fits you nigga, dont make me put your families info online, my nigga will make a youtube video about you and your friends, keep playing with me you sand nigger and i will do some major exposing

martin why the fuck do you thumb up this? you really think i am the one of the youtube account? honestly i dont give a fuck about you guys lol i stopped trolling a month ago...

[Carlito's Way]

I really can't imagine a situation where someone scores 85% SSA, looks black, identifies as black but people around desperately try to convince him that he can't be black because of the remaining percentage of something else. Apparently for blacks, asians or arabs is not necesary to score 100% to be concidered that, but for europeans suddenly the one drop rule is applied .

lets see, what is blacks who wanted to remain as pure as possible in the Americas? where they the ones who installed one drop rules to reject those with one drop of non-black ancestry? and dont come here saying that bullshit when you yourself consider African Americans black smh

13% non-white is A LOOOOT

whiteness pride themselves on purity, blackness on the other hand do not because they were too busy getting the rejects (mulattoes, quadroons, rape product babies, triracials, zambos etc)
people see Obama as black, not white, not mix, and im sure if I google something about Obama in your country, he will be classified as a black president and im sure the racist in your country will make fun of his blackness, not his whiteness
or in Europe during soccer games where they chant monkey noises at "black" players or throw bananas at them, i mean it must be because of their white heritage, right?

whites were too busy putting caste systems, they were not accepting harnizos, mestizos, indo-mestizos, castizos, triracials, mulattos, quadroons etc in their whiteness


so please dont be stupid, learn some history and why there are double standards
only niggas who are desperate enough to prove how lose whiteness is in Latin America therefore Latin America is 40% white will consider him white
or my country is over 80% white because here I consider those with 85% european to be white smh that is being desperate to prove your country is white

you niggas have a low self a stem, Latinos in general do


im sure your people would've called them a monkey to insult them, they wouldnt go like "hold up you mix race mutts you cracker porch monkeys cave whiteys, you all dont belong in my nation!!"
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cf/53/12/cf53124ec6f4a65d4522f31530ce108e.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lwGMKStddhM/maxresdefault.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

dude are you a retard? im telling you i dont have idea what you are talking about. I had your pics for 2 years and never posted them nor shared them with anybody. I only posted them because you dared me to do it. I also have pics of martin family and your family. Do you see them psoted anywhere? NO, because I stopped trolling as arranged with martin.

So shut the fuck up and leave me away of your stupid internet fights. I am not the ones who is trolling you. And i have no idea who he is.

the person isnt even me, you are a dumbass

[Argentano]

the person isnt even me, you are a dumbass


Again leave me away from your stupid internet fights. The same for martin. Im not the one making fake accounts so cut the crap with the "Sudaca" comments.

[Argentano]

Mulattoes being considered black is irrelevant. Of course, whites consider them black; we recognize deviation from our average more easily than deviation from the black average. And just because blacks have a loose standard for themselves doesn't mean whites must also.

Alnortedelsur is getting a lot of flak here, and that's regrettable. I don't care what race he considers himself. But I am getting tired of the South American crowd consistently getting their panties in a twist over the fact that 87% white isn't white in the US (and possibly in Europe; I'll leave that to the Europeans). You all have a looser standard, and that's fine. But don't be surprised if others disagree.

i get you but the ones disagreeing are other latin americans. But well everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

dude are you a retard? im telling you i dont have idea what you are talking about. I had your pics for 2 years and never posted them nor shared them with anybody. I only posted them because you dared me to do it. I also have pics of martin family and your family. Do you see them psoted anywhere? NO, because I stopped trolling as arranged with martin.

So shut the fuck up and leave me away of your stupid internet fights. I am not the ones who is trolling you. And i have no idea who he is.

I see, you still got puctures save of my family? lol Really? wheh I clean out my whole computer...Hmm

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

That's no good, as you say have pics of my family, but most of "his" aren't, accept a cousin, so basically you have mostly of ny family....By thats no good, you know what I mean. How that sits

[Argentano]

I see, you still got puctures save of my family? lol Really? wheh I clean out my whole computer...Hmm

I have your facebook accounts unless you erased them. what i am trying to tell you is that if i wanted to troll you i could do 200 things. But i havent done anything. So leave me away from your stupid internet fights.

Someone else is trolling you not me.

I take responsability for the things i have done, but i wont take responsability for things someone else did. I made no account so leave me out of this.

[Annie999]

lets see, what is blacks who wanted to remain as pure as possible in the Americas? where they the ones who installed one drop rules to reject those with one drop of non-black ancestry? and dont come here saying that bullshit when you yourself consider African Americans black smh

13% non-white is A LOOOOT

whiteness pride themselves on purity, blackness on the other hand do not because they were too busy getting the rejects (mulattoes, quadroons, rape product babies, triracials, zambos etc)
people see Obama as black, not white, not mix, and im sure if I google something about Obama in your country, he will be classified as a black president and im sure the racist in your country will make fun of his blackness, not his whiteness
or in Europe during soccer games where they chant monkey noises at "black" players or throw bananas at them, i mean it must be because of their white heritage, right?

whites were too busy putting caste systems, they were not accepting harnizos, mestizos, indo-mestizos, castizos, triracials, mulattos, quadroons etc in their whiteness


so please dont be stupid, learn some history and why there are double standards
only niggas who are desperate enough to prove how lose whiteness is in Latin America therefore Latin America is 40% white will consider him white
or my country is over 80% white because here I consider those with 85% european to be white smh that is being desperate to prove your country is white

you niggas have a low self a stem, Latinos in general do


im sure your people would've called them a monkey to insult them, they wouldnt go like "hold up you mix race mutts you cracker porch monkeys cave whiteys, you all dont belong in my nation!!"
hpg
htg

If someone looks white there is not impurity to "make fun" of in the first place, regardless of their DNA. If they look white people will treat them as white, period. That's the case with alnortedelsur (in his case in USA he will be treated as a white foreigner). The only reason people are questioning his "whitness" here is because of a DNA test, but genetic tests don't have weight in the real world.

[Argentano]

That's no good, as you say have pics of my family, but most of "his" aren't, accept a cousin, so basically you have mostly of ny family....By thats no good, you know what I mean. How that sits

Again i stopped trolling a month ago. Leave me out of this.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I have your facebook accounts unless you erased them. what i am trying to tell you is that if i wanted to troll you i could do 200 things. But i havent done anything. So leave me away from your stupid internet fights.

Someone else is trolling you not me.

I take responsability for the things i have done, but i wont take responsability for things someone else did. I made no account so leave me out of this.

What accounts, I only have one.

I will say this, I aint makin no moves. I will find out that person, hack the Youtube account. Workin on it.

So don't worry about ittt.

[Carlito's Way]

If someone looks white there is not impurity to "make fun" of in the first place, regardless of their DNA. If they look white people will treat them as white, period. That's the case with alnortedelsur (in his case in USA he will be treated as a white foreigner). The only reason people are questioning his "whitness" here is because of a DNA test, but genetic tests don't have weight in the real world.

Mariah Carey wasnt treated as white and she looks white

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Again i stopped trolling a month ago. Leave me out of this.

I ain't makin a move against you. Neither Carlitos Way. Not yet.

We gonna hunt down that Youtube sock puppet, hack that nigga behind it.

Here I tell ya, we just saying. Don't worry.

You know how I am. I'm like a predator. First I look for my pray.

[Leto]

Mariah Carey wasnt treated as white and she looks white
No, she looks sort of 1/3 African, 2/3 European. Obviously not fully European.

[Argentano]

What accounts, I only have one.

I will say this, I aint makin no moves. I will find out that person, hack the Youtube account. Workin on it.

So don't worry about ittt.



I ain't makin a move against you. Neither Carlitos Way. Not yet.

We gonna hunt down that Youtube sock puppet, hack that nigga behind it.

Here I tell ya, we just saying. Don't worry.

You know how I am. I'm like a predator. First I look for my pray.

Lol ok good luck with that.

But stop saying its a sudaca because you dont know who he is. And you dont want us south americans to start calling mexicans beaners, ok? You asked me to stop trolling and to erase the thread, do the same and honor your word.

[Survivor]

Mariah Carey wasnt treated as white and she looks white

Well, Mariah Carey looks non-White. She doesn't look White to me anyway.

[Carlito's Way]

we will be doing major take downs soon....

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Well, Mariah Carey looks non-White. She doesn't look White to me anyway.

In Venezuela she was consider white by looks.

[Carlito's Way]

Well, Mariah Carey looks non-White. She doesn't look White to me anyway.

sorry but people thought she was white until she made it clear that she was black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfRNRymrv9k

[Survivor]

In Venezuela she was consider white by looks.

Latin America has a confusing way of seeing race for the most part. But then again, the US came up with the one drop rule so...

[Survivor]

sorry but people thought she was white until she made it clear that she was black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfRNRymrv9k

For real? It is quite obvious she is African admixed. I'd think even average people would be able to detect that.

[Carlito's Way]

Mariah Carey in 1990: Critics Loved Her, Thought She Was White

When Mariah Carey entered the music world via her blockbuster self-titled debut in 1990, many critics hailed her practically peerless voice and parade of No. 1 hits. Some were less enthused, however, praising her technical talents but opining she needed to develop a more distinct musical approach.

Whether critics were right about Carey's style circa 1990 is a matter for discussion, but one prevalent viewpoint espoused by several writers 25 years ago is just plain wrong.

Namely, that Mariah Carey is white.

As (hopefully) everyone knows at this point, Mariah Carey is not white -- or perhaps more specifically, she's not just white. She's African-American and Venezuelan on her father's side and white Irish on her mother's. But publications from Los Angeles Daily News to Playboy to the Herald Sun described her as "white" throughout 1990, an error that at least two publications (New York Post and USA Today) wrote to correct.



In an article from Dec. 6, 1990, Australia's Herald Sun described Carey as "the new white U.S. soul singer with a reputed eight-octave range." That's wrong on two counts: Aside from not being white, Carey's range is five octaves.



After Playboy ran an article about Carey in 1990 that described her as a "white girl who can sing," reports surfaced via New York Post that she was furious with the writer of the piece. Shortly after, a spokesperson for Carey set the record straight to USA Today.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq09UkPRdFY

http://ilosm.cdnize.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/mariah-her-dad-and-nephew.jpg
http://www.arogundade.com/Resources/mariah-carey-and-mother-young.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I'll be blacks later. I will see you niggas later here

[Survivor]

I'll be blacks later. I will see you niggas later here

Alright my NNigga (Non-White Nigga).

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Alright my NNigga (Non-White Nigga).

I embrase my black admixture. You SSA admix should too.

[Survivor]

I embrase my black admixture. You SSA admix should too.

I do embrace it. I am 100% Congolese phenotype.

[RMuller]

For real? It is quite obvious she is African admixed. I'd think even average people would be able to detect that.

Agree,her SSA is obvious.

[Leto]

Mulattoes being considered black is irrelevant. Of course, whites consider them black; we recognize deviation from our average more easily than deviation from the black average. And just because blacks have a loose standard for themselves doesn't mean whites must also.

Alnortedelsur is getting a lot of flak here, and that's regrettable. I don't care what race he considers himself. But I am getting tired of the South American crowd consistently getting their panties in a twist over the fact that 87% white isn't white in the US (and possibly in Europe; I'll leave that to the Europeans). You all have a looser standard, and that's fine. But don't be surprised if others disagree.
I think the thing is that some people are trolling him for identifying with his Spanish roots, aren't they? And I don't understand why he can't do that given that he is overwhelmingly Spanish by ancestry, much of which is very recent, not going back to the previous centuries. No matter which definition of whiteness you choose. If I remember correctly, he has always said 'near-white' or something like that, even before doing the test.

[Smitty]

I think the thing is that some people are trolling him for identifying with his Spanish roots, aren't they? And I don't understand why he can't do that given that he is overwhelmingly Spanish by ancestry, much of which is very recent, not going back to the previous centuries. No matter which definition of whiteness you choose. If I remember correctly, he has always said 'near-white' or something like that, even before doing the test.

I think some non-white members see this as comeuppance for alnorte's racial views. Of course, he can identify with his Spanish roots. An African-American can identify with his Anglo roots, if he so chooses, difficult as it may be to reconcile the two. Your blood is your blood.

[alnortedelsur]

He isn't a triracial neither would anyone in Europe consider him so. Puerto-Ricans, please, I went to school with them, they are true triracials and look more exotic than average Gypsie on average.
I saw his pictures and he looks European white and while he isn't ''White European'' but ''White Latino'' nobody would notice him in Europe, he wouldn't stand out a bit. Keep in mind many pure Europeans look more exotic/swarthy than him without SSA/amerindian admixture and nobody considers them foreign kind in their own continent.

Your post about him being triracial (utter bu***t) was tumbed up by two non-Europeans, Heather and Loki MN who doesn't look European but mixed Latino. I am fully European with nordic phenotype and to me he looks white.
Nobody in Europe cares so much about whiteness , one drop rule.....and other similar shit coming from new world where people without much identity seek ways to compensate their confusion.

His mom is European, his father Latin American, he has right to embrace both sides of his identity without being called ''tri-racial.''

Thanks Feiichi, well said :thumb001:

You explained much better than myself what I mean. But some people on here is too dumb to understand it, or they are just losers full of complexes who want to project their complexes on others.

[alnortedelsur]

His children with a fully European wife would be over 90% European genetically. What is your problem?:confused:

Exactly!

[alnortedelsur]

Neymar is a pardo. He probably scores around 60% euro yet people will consider him a pardo (light black).

Im not saying somebody who is 60% euro should be considered white (even when they are predominantely white) but 87% i almost all your anacestry, its a complete different thing.

if somebody who is 50% SSA can indentify as black, i dont get why somebody who is 87% euro cannot identify as white.

And its not a matter of being complexed its a matter of identifying depending on both your genotype (87% euro) and phenotype (white)

Absolutely, but it looks like for some anthro retards, if your are vastly Euro by genetics and very Euro looking up to the point of nobody questioning as being mixed by looks, you still don't have right to mostly identify with your Euro side, and if you do, you are a "self hater white wannabe"... really?!?!:picard1:

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Absolutely, but it looks like for some anthro retards, if your are vastly Euro by genetics and very Euro looking up to the point of nobody questioning as being mixed by looks, you still don't have right to mostly identify with your Euro side, and if you do, you are a "self hater white wannabe"... really?!?!:picard1:

In IR's you are Al Norte del Sur de Favelas triracial :lol:

[Jana]

its not up to you, even Cristiano Viejo voted that you needed to be 100% European to be considered white, and sorry nigga but his ancestry (majority of it) comes from Spain, therefore not even Spaniards would consider him white at all
i dont give a fuck what you consider white or if he looks white, genetically speaking he is not white he is 13% non-white, hes not white

You aren't white neither European, neither is up to you to decide what he is. Cristiano said he can pass in Spain. He can pass in Central Europe too.
Now back off with your complexes.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

You aren't white neither European, neither is up to you to decide what he is. Cristiano said he can pass in Spain. He can pass in Central Europe too.
Now back off with your complexes.

Carlitos Way is 90% Euro by genetics tho.

[Leto]

Absolutely, but it looks like for some anthro retards, if your are vastly Euro by genetics and very Euro looking up to the point of nobody questioning as being mixed by looks, you still don't have right to mostly identify with your Euro side, and if you do, you are a "self hater white wannabe"... really?!?!:picard1:
That's called libtardism, bro. For libtards if you are white and defend white interests, you are simply a white supremacist. And if you are not white and do the same, then you are a self-hater and wannabe. However, they don't mind whites supporting things like black lives matter or diversity, quite the opposite.

[Leto]

Carlitos Way is 90% Euro by genetics tho.
Lol. And he presents himself as either Mexican or black. Guess who is the self-hater on here...:picard1:

[Argentano]

I think some non-white members see this as comeuppance for alnorte's racial views. Of course, he can identify with his Spanish roots. An African-American can identify with his Anglo roots, if he so chooses, difficult as it may be to reconcile the two. Your blood is your blood.

I dont think the example is comparable as an african american is pred non british and alnortedelsur is pred iberian.


African American = 25% anglo
Alnorte =87% european

If a white american was 90% german 10% british , do you think he would indentify as an european mutt? or as german american? I think the answer is obvious.

In fact most "italian american" in this site are not of 100% italian ancestry.

I think its a double standard.

[alnortedelsur]

Mulattoes being considered black is irrelevant. Of course, whites consider them black; we recognize deviation from our average more easily than deviation from the black average. And just because blacks have a loose standard for themselves doesn't mean whites must also.

Alnortedelsur is getting a lot of flak here, and that's regrettable. I don't care what race he considers himself. But I am getting tired of the South American crowd consistently getting their panties in a twist over the fact that 87% white isn't white in the US (and possibly in Europe; I'll leave that to the Europeans). You all have a looser standard, and that's fine. But don't be surprised if others disagree.

And however, IRL, as Annie said, when I turn off my computer and go to the outside world, everybody sees me as white without question, EVERYBODY, even white North Americans themselves. I am not white according to your strict standards, but in the social sense of being perceived as white and treated as white, I am white socially speaking.

I don't give a fuck about your internet opinion and your stupid one drop rule.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Lol. And he presents himself as either Mexican or black. Guess who is the self-hater on here...:picard1:

He embrase his heritage and ancestries. North Italian and the minor admixture.

Same here

[Jana]

Carlitos Way is 90% Euro by genetics tho.
''save us all from whitey''....I tought he is Mexican of African roots.....lol
Self-hater and fake black, and he calls Alnortedelsur complexed ...


Lol. And he presents himself as either Mexican or black. Guess who is the self-hater on here...:picard1:
yes :picard1:

[alnortedelsur]

In IR's you are Al Norte del Sur de Favelas triracial :lol:

That sounds really funny, coming from you.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I embrase my black admixture. You SSA admix should too.
No you dont

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

That sounds really funny, coming from you.
What? I'm just telling you what I-Roots(ters) says.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

No you dont

What you talking about nigga

[alnortedelsur]

What? I'm just telling you what I-Roots(ters) says.

Ah, ok, I thought you were trolling me.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

What you talking about nigga
You know you dont holmes essay

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

No you dont

What cha talking about nigga

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Here in U.S I'm a brotha for some.

For your info two days ago I had a racist "redneck" type on mic calling me a "nigger" and shit...It's a true story.

[Carlito's Way]

Here in U.S I'm a brotha for some.

For your info two days ago I had a racist "redneck" type on mic calling me a "nigger" and shit...It's a true story.

but in real life, they dont have the balls to do that shit, brah
thats why whites are the ultimate keyboard warriors and mic talkers lol

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Here in U.S I'm a brotha for some.

For your info two days ago I had a racist "redneck" type on mic calling me a "nigger" and shit...It's a true story.

Sure, true story...

[Carlito's Way]

Lol. And he presents himself as either Mexican or black. Guess who is the self-hater on here...:picard1:

mexican is a nationality, black is a race
im a black mexican, so how the fuck am i a self hater when i embrace my blackness???? smh

[Carlito's Way]

Sure, true story...

it does happen on online when you play video games
when they find out you are mexican, they call you a wetback, spic, turd, grease ball among other shit

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

but in real life, they dont have the balls to do that shit, brah
thats why whites are the ultimate keyboard warriors and mic talkers lol

Word brah. This was when I was playing Friday the 13th video game Online. A stupid redneck bastard was talking a lot of shit but I just laugh and it's all bullshit talk behind the mic. Keyboard mic talking warrior. He sounded like a fat redneck type loser with anger problems.

In real life, would get slapped.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

it does happen on online when you play video games
when they find out you are mexican, they call you a wetback, spic, turd, grease ball among other shit

Yes. Link me the audio record site, to post it. It's amusing. I was called a nigger only by him but others had call me wetback and beaner and even by a redneck thought I was a overseas Russian, lol.

[Carlito's Way]

''save us all from whitey''....I tought he is Mexican of African roots.....lol
Self-hater and fake black, and he calls Alnortedelsur complexed ...


yes :picard1:

sorry but i live in america and we still have the one drop rule going on, it hasnt vanished at all
you live where? in Europe? please you cant understand our struggle as a minority group, as people of color, as blacks

yall whites benefited by the slavery, the colonization, the racism, Africas and the Americas natural resources to enrich your nations
yall benefit from euro-centric beauty standards, from white privilege, this whole system is based of off white privilege, the killing and murdering of our people

we are the future and the future belongs to our future generation, we are the woke POC who are ready for war against the white man

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

it does happen on online when you play video games
when they find out you are mexican, they call you a wetback, spic, turd, grease ball among other shit

Yea but they call mexicans niggers. True story.... they call them spics and wetbacks not niggers. Unless you have a black street accent, they wouldnt call you that.. over a mic

Online gaming people never guess im hispanic or black though for some reason when on microphone. Reminds me on another mexican user who he was on another forum briefly that sounded like a white guy on mic.

He doesnt sound black on mic. Ive seen a racists redneck before but they never called me nigger. Online they call me isis when they are trying to troll if im on cam without knowing my ethnic background

Sometimes they might get close and call me spic though

[Carlito's Way]

Yes. Link me the audio record site, to post it. It's amusing. I was called a nigger only by him but others had call me wetback and beaner and even by a redneck thought I was a overseas Russian, lol.

yeah when i use to play video games (xbox), and they'd know I was mexican, they would call me all sorts of racial slurs, also against blacks, even asians
whites would target everyone, but like i said, in person none of them wouldve had the balls to be all tough
thats why i stopped playing lol (among other reasons but that was one of the main reasons)

[Carlito's Way]

Yea but they call mexicans niggers. True story.... they call them spics and wetbacks not niggers. Unless you have a black street accent, they wouldnt call you that.. over a mic

Online gaming people never guess im hispanic or black though for some reason when on microphone. Reminds me on another mexican user who he was on another forum briefly that sounded like a white guy on mic.

He doesnt sound black on mic. Ive seen a racists redneck before but they never called me nigger. Online they call me isis when they are trying to troll if im on cam without knowing my ethnic background

Sometimes they might get close and call me spic though

there are some that do use the nigger label on mexicans, even on other ethnicities that arent white
theres a famous youtuber who calls even mexicans niggers on their live streaming, hes been called out before and has had his channel deleted by youtube

but yeah when they dont know your ethnicity all they can do is guess what you are, but back then I would say i was mexican from california and blah blah blah
i sound like a regular Southern Californian, "i sound white"

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

yeah when i use to play video games (xbox), and they'd know I was mexican, they would call me all sorts of racial slurs, also against blacks, even asians
whites would target everyone, but like i said, in person none of them wouldve had the balls to be all tough
thats why i stopped playing lol (among other reasons but that was one of the main reasons)

Yes. Here it is, I had it on record as I was streaming live to Youtube. Heres the record, funny shit but we know in real life he would get slapped. He claim he would come to me and rip my "fat lips" off..I'm like I'm sure, lol. And laugh.
Listen to it, amusing shit, lol.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VeNxNMWaon

[Jana]

sorry but i live in america and we still have the one drop rule going on, it hasnt vanished at all
you live where? in Europe? please you cant understand our struggle as a minority group, as people of color, as blacks
yall whites benefited by the slavery, the colonization, the racism, Africas and the Americas natural resources to enrich your nations
yall benefit from euro-centric beauty standards, from white privilege, this whole system is based of off white privilege, the killing and murdering of our people
we are the future and the future belongs to our future generation, we are the woke POC who are ready for war against the white man

Do you hear yourself ? Other member wrote you are 90% European genetically, and you think you're black ???!!
You are 9 times more white, who you seem to hate, than black. You are as black as I am German, and it would be like I start to talk: I am German, Croats are Slavic shit, I hate them while being hugely Croatian. Other people would laugh at me and call me
self-hater and wannabe.

Even Obama is ridiculous playing black card when his mother is WASP and he is at least half-black unlike you. You hate yourself and don't have normal thinking- I don't think any real African will consider you his kin.

And, my country didn't benefit from colonialism, we are not racist, blacks are trated kindly here, we are small country that never attacked other or possesed colonies, and are considered as second-class Europeans by rich westerners who look down on Slavs, don't dare put blame of Anglo-Saxons on other Europeans who never had anything to do with slavery !

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Yea but they call mexicans niggers. True story.... they call them spics and wetbacks not niggers. Unless you have a black street accent, they wouldnt call you that.. over a mic

Online gaming people never guess im hispanic or black though for some reason when on microphone. Reminds me on another mexican user who he was on another forum briefly that sounded like a white guy on mic.

He doesnt sound black on mic. Ive seen a racists redneck before but they never called me nigger. Online they call me isis when they are trying to troll if im on cam without knowing my ethnic background

Sometimes they might get close and call me spic though

They did to me, which was funny as fook, lol.
You can hear here:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VeNxNMWaon

[Survivor]

Do you hear yourself ? Other member wrote you are 90% European genetically, and you think you're black ???!!
You are 9 times more white, who you seem to hate, than black. You are as black as I am German, and it would be like I start to talk: I am German, Croats are Slavic shit, I hate them while being hugely Croatian. Other people would laugh at me and call me
self-hater and wannabe.

Even Obama is ridiculous playing black card when his mother is WASP and he is at least half-black unlike you. You hate yourself and don't have normal thinking- I don't think any real African will consider you his kin.

And, my country didn't benefit from colonialism, we are not racist, blacks are trated kindly here, we are small country that never attacked other or possesed colonies, and are considered as second-class Europeans by rich westerners who look down on Slavs, don't dare put blame of Anglo-Saxons on other Europeans who never had anything to do with it !

I am 13% Black and accept him into the Black tribe.

[Jana]

I am 13% Black and accept him into the Black tribe.
Go tell that to real Africans Blacks and see if they will accept you in their tribe...even Aframs aren't considered pure enough by many of them

You are just a wannabe.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I am 13% Black and accept him into the Black tribe.

That's a funny pic and 13% black.

[Carlito's Way]

Yes. Here it is, I had it on record as I was streaming live to Youtube. Heres the record, funny shit but we know in real life he would get slapped. He claim he would come to me and rip my "fat lips" off..I'm like I'm sure, lol. And laugh.
Listen to it, amusing shit, lol.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VeNxNMWaon

LMAOO smh that nigga is so stupid and he sounds old as hell
you shouldve been like "you gonna rip my lips off the same way your momma ripped yours off? is that why you are missing your lips?"

white people get in their feelings when you make fun of their non-existent as lips
https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-11-2013/njz2SG.gif

[Survivor]

Go tell that to real Africans Blacks and see if they will accept you in their tribe...even Aframs aren't considered pure enough by many of them

You are just a wannabe.

I've talked to some Africans and they say I am cool with them with my 13% Black genes.

[Jana]

I've talked to some Africans and they say I am cool with them with my 13% Black genes.
It doesn't make you one of them. Afrocentrists are no less selective when it comes to accepting mixed people as blacks, that's way too low, I absolutely don't belive your story.