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Adamm
06-20-2019, 04:51 PM
Hello guys, these are my new updated results:

https://i.imgur.com/H3qmNWy.png

https://i.imgur.com/hZcfEad.png

Also I'm a crusader now on my ancestral timeline, the irony!

Pine
06-20-2019, 05:01 PM
Also I'm a crusader now on my ancestral timeline, the irony!

Yeah, tell me about it.

You have a shit load more matches - even Viking Sweden. I barely have any. I'm guessing this is because of Jewish endogamy, where the same ancient segments continued to recombine, whence only a few are still detectable today.

Rędwald
06-20-2019, 05:46 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/BZzVSVfs/earlymedi.png

LOL what Rome?

Impaler
06-20-2019, 05:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/pqhAWjk.png (https://imgur.com/pqhAWjk)

http://i.imgur.com/VkOTiT2.png (https://imgur.com/VkOTiT2)

Tortfeasor
06-20-2019, 11:45 PM
I got pretty much the same thing.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=88867&d=1561074238

Vyacheslav
06-21-2019, 07:05 AM
Hello guys, these are my new updated results:

https://i.imgur.com/H3qmNWy.png

https://i.imgur.com/hZcfEad.png

Also I'm a crusader now on my ancestral timeline, the irony!

Excuse me! I was wrong! This is not your ancient DNA map! I will send your
Excuse me!

Vyacheslav
06-21-2019, 07:06 AM
Excuse me! I was wrong! This is not your ancient DNA map! I will send your
Excuse me!

That's right for Adamm! https://a.radikal.ru/a05/1906/92/3a4fd0c35b72.png (https://radikal.ru)

Gallop
06-22-2019, 12:26 PM
1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (8.771) - I12034
2. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 BC) (9.038) - FN_2
3. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (9.058) - FN_2
4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (9.145) - CL94
5. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (10.8) - I3313
6. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (12.11) - I12209
7. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (13.48) - CL57
8. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (760 AD) (13.51) - I3585
9. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (13.99) - SZ28
10. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (14.25) - I12208
11. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (14.53) - CL23
12. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (14.62) - SI-40
13. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (14.63) - I2649
14. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (14.91) - scy305
15. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (15.13) - scy192
16. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (15.42) - I2515
17. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (15.69) - scy311
18. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) (15.69) - I2478
19. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (16.22) - VAD001
20. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (16.47) - I4332
21. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (16.47) - I5769
22. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) (16.5) - I3982
23. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (16.53) - I2644
24. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (16.63) - I7425
25. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (16.75) - I2514
26. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (17.05) - SZ45
27. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (17.4) - CL47
28. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (17.63) - I3981
29. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (17.65) - VAD005
30. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (17.96) - CL63
31. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (18.07) - Rise577
32. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) (18.45) - VO10207
33. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) (18.87) - DA111
34. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (19.4) - DA199
35. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (19.57) - 6DRIF-22
36. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (19.6) - I1203
37. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (19.77) - VAD004
38. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (19.83) - I2647
39. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (19.94) - I3874
40. Central Roman (670 AD) (19.96) - CL36
41. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (19.98) - CL102
42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (20.3) - I3582
43. Celtiberian Northern Spain (300 BC) (20.52) - I3757
44. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (20.74) - CL53
45. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (20.74) - I12162
46. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) (21.08) - ATP9
47. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (21.5) - I5471
48. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (21.51) - SZ18
49. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (21.55) - I3576
50. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (21.6) - SZ23
51. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) (21.6) - I1388
52. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (21.84) - I7424
53. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (21.85) - 3DRIF-16
54. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (22.0) - I3581
55. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (22.14) - MS10614
56. Central Roman (590 AD) (22.34) - SZ43
57. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (22.47) - SZ38
58. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (22.47) - BIM_33
59. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (22.82) - I1767
60. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (22.89) - I4251


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WSDeu4ENtL0/XQ4gFaWkB2I/AAAAAAAAA3w/W0pxZAFuZLgoN8IFXlG1ADe4hpvKZJbfwCLcBGAs/s1600/mapaafrica.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PH6-PSXkw7o/XQ4eKrQZG3I/AAAAAAAAA3k/clzuZ-3_vGAOAr_ci5HCInvyGaD4uEy4wCLcBGAs/s1600/nuevotimeline.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JtK0fxzILrA/XQ4hmSANnDI/AAAAAAAAA38/tpgxh49RScUQb5mhqw0tTRR8SfgSnWa-wCLcBGAs/s1600/mapeancestrynuevo.jpg

Bunalim
06-22-2019, 01:34 PM
I have an account that has been upgraded twice to Knight. If one or two people want to chip in some money to upgrade again, we can share the account. $20 will get you one King slot which includes:

Full analysis for up to 5 kits and Complete Timelines. Archaeological, Premium, Deep Dive, and Timelapse Maps.
Full Deep Dive Analysis!
60 Ancient samples + classification shown

$40 and you can have both of the spare slots.

Adamm
06-22-2019, 02:06 PM
New update today shows the Africa map:

https://i.imgur.com/bezl5Y1.png


And here follows my ancestral timeline:

https://i.imgur.com/Gq3S8EU.png
https://i.imgur.com/CQHd2Ml.png
https://i.imgur.com/a73nHjH.png
https://i.imgur.com/zGzMxtG.png
https://i.imgur.com/hWIKSms.png
https://i.imgur.com/hhHp5b5.png
https://i.imgur.com/JAWBDob.png
https://i.imgur.com/FckXnvB.png
https://i.imgur.com/xzzprcA.png
https://i.imgur.com/rX5TuQd.png
https://i.imgur.com/MMzU7EN.png
https://i.imgur.com/jc1IAdE.png
https://i.imgur.com/ASe6igf.png

Nassbean
06-23-2019, 02:52 PM
Update :

https://i.imgur.com/a7sVeNO.png
https://i.imgur.com/23pAToM.png

Gallop
06-28-2019, 07:04 PM
New results

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i15gspR952k/XRZhMx_08XI/AAAAAAAAA44/TWj_vm1qeIIYVCWvC_SRwpN-tTzdzEq1wCLcBGAs/s640/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainVIKING.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oTAQGUC6n1Q/XRZkeaq9yxI/AAAAAAAAA5E/iCcObwqIL8sSKmjjczinpHDMKfF6nSTsACLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainVIKINGLISTAVERDE.jpg

Grace O'Malley
06-28-2019, 08:04 PM
This site is great as they keep getting more ancient samples. There are more Icelandic samples now and they are calling them correctly as a Gaelic/Viking mix.

http://i64.tinypic.com/14bhiyp.jpg

Some new deepdive matches.

http://i67.tinypic.com/4nzv7.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/1zveqnq.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/1z6dvex.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/9k72q8.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2lk8isk.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/1hw7s0.jpg

PaleoEuropean
06-28-2019, 08:34 PM
I might upgrade and check out the other stuff, cool site so far.

https://i.imgur.com/ZGTP2ak.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3qJ02q1.jpg

Dick
06-28-2019, 08:35 PM
^thats neat. My distances still suck on this compared to others, almost @ 10. Makes me wonder if I’m mixed with something else


https://i.imgur.com/kbzRR5U.jpg

PaleoEuropean
06-28-2019, 08:39 PM
^thats neat. My distances still suck on this compared to others, almost @ 10. Makes me wonder if I’m mixed with something else


https://i.imgur.com/kbzRR5U.jpg

Yea being American I am shocked mine is that close, but most my family is Scandinavian/Saxon-German not too much interesting stuff in my tree. Maybe they just lack the specimens for your area to test you against so it defaults to SNP's that are less dominant.

PaleoEuropean
06-28-2019, 09:04 PM
This site is great as they keep getting more ancient samples. There are more Icelandic samples now and they are calling them correctly as a Gaelic/Viking mix.

http://i64.tinypic.com/14bhiyp.jpg

Some new deepdive matches. I am just more Scottish Influenced.

http://i67.tinypic.com/4nzv7.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/1zveqnq.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/1z6dvex.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/9k72q8.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2lk8isk.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/1hw7s0.jpg

Besides my continental German and English ancestry we have similar results

1. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.539)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (6.84)
3. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.88)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.206)
5. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (8.106)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.193)
7. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (9.096)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.183)
9. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.209)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.656)
11. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.01)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.06)
13. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (10.09)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.13)
15. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.34)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.79)
17. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.85)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.91)
19. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (11.0)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.09)

PaleoEuropean
06-28-2019, 09:07 PM
My Chad Borreby blood runs deep


https://i.imgur.com/XOOdKuM.jpg

Dick
06-28-2019, 09:32 PM
Yea being American I am shocked mine is that close, but most my family is Scandinavian/Saxon-German not too much interesting stuff in my tree. Maybe they just lack the specimens for your area to test you against so it defaults to SNP's that are less dominant.

Check out Bosniensis’ distances

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?285335-My-true-ancestry-com&p=5947308&viewfull=1#post5947308

Matty74
06-28-2019, 09:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/b48JSy8.jpg

Freeroostah
06-28-2019, 10:05 PM
WASSUP! WASSUP!! My favorite Total War faction :D

http://i67.tinypic.com/mj4spg.png

Impaler
06-28-2019, 10:16 PM
WASSUP! WASSUP!! My favorite Total War faction :D

http://i67.tinypic.com/mj4spg.png

Almost identical with my new update, haha.

Freeroostah
06-28-2019, 10:17 PM
Almost identical with my new update, haha.

That’s the North Greek heritage Brooo!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

farke1
06-28-2019, 10:17 PM
This site is great as they keep getting more ancient samples. There are more Icelandic samples now and they are calling them correctly as a Gaelic/Viking mix.

http://i64.tinypic.com/14bhiyp.jpg
Nice! Our results are basically the same, the distances are just slightly different (see sig). Is it worth upgrading for the Deep Dive matches? :)

ph2ter
06-28-2019, 11:01 PM
My timelapse (moving gif)
http://i65.tinypic.com/fa0uhs.gif

paradox
06-29-2019, 03:27 AM
Updated results, mine and my father's. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190629/44b8a17b284e878bd9a318f623b83ee0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190629/a9ce618686e0d0a1161ba0201edde319.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190629/dec6a42a197a931f2410d489fbccf721.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190629/5bd19a8bce79412c82f53ff3f145fda6.jpg

Mortimer
06-29-2019, 03:38 AM
Nothing changed for me. I have now one more match with the seleucid empire. But it didnt went into my "ancient closest populations" it is just one more match.

TheOldNorth
06-29-2019, 03:47 AM
for me it just switched visigoth and gaul to where visigoth is #1 and gaul is #2

Rędwald
06-29-2019, 03:49 AM
1. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (6.819)
2. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (6.922)
3. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (6.983)
4. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (7.05)
5. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.188)
6. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.291)
7. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.409)
8. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (7.592)
9. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.681)
10. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (7.696)
11. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (7.729)
12. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (7.827)
13. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (7.838)
14. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (8.323)
15. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.323)
16. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.62)
17. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.779)
18. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (8.799)
19. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (8.812)
20. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (9.021)

Jägerstaffel
06-29-2019, 04:05 AM
Eh, it added "Viking (Icelandic)" for me now:

Gaul + Frank (2.717)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (3.431)
Gaul (6.549)
Frank (6.566)
Viking Icelandic (6.93)

I'm honestly not sure what to make of this site.

Kyp
06-29-2019, 07:34 AM
This doesn't work for mixed people at all!
Completely different results than my parents...

Seleucid + Roman (11.07)
Roman + Ostrogoth (12.73)
Seleucid (12.8)
Ostrogoth (15.35)
Roman (17.77)

Kaspias
06-29-2019, 09:09 AM
Not Roman anymore

https://i.ibb.co/BLx8Gnc/Ads-z.png

https://i.ibb.co/0QG3J0P/iron.png

Thracian
06-29-2019, 09:15 AM
https://i.ibb.co/jvNp1qT/mytrueancestry.png

Impaler
06-29-2019, 09:46 AM
http://i.imgur.com/WIrI2fD.png (https://imgur.com/WIrI2fD)

Grace O'Malley
06-29-2019, 10:01 AM
Nice! Our results are basically the same, the distances are just slightly different (see sig). Is it worth upgrading for the Deep Dive matches? :)

My daughter's is very similar to yours as well.

http://i63.tinypic.com/263u2qw.jpg

There is good information on the Icelandic genomes as well. I've posted this earlier but it is very informative for anyone that gets them in their results.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2sbwpr9.jpg

Most of them do have a Gaelic/Norse mix except a couple that are either full Norse or full Gael. They were called Celtic before but I think calling them Gaelic is more correct. I keep meaning to look at all these ancients in more detail later on as I'm interested in the mtdna and ydna also.

The site should keep getting better if they keep adding ancient genomes like they are doing. There are a couple of great studies coming out next year using a lot of ancient genomes - one on France and one on Ireland. There is a large study coming out on Italy very soon with a lot of ancient genomes as well. These studies tell us far more about what populations we descend from than something like 23&Me.

Vojnik
06-29-2019, 10:25 AM
Not much changed. Still a Roman+Gaul+Scythian.

Seleucid does come up on the map though. Which is a new edition.

Modern populations:
1. Macedonian (3.264)
2. Romanian (4.819)
3. Bulgarian (5.647)
4. Bosnian (7.654)

Vojnik
06-29-2019, 10:28 AM
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=i3j06iss6f&s=tl

firemonkey
06-29-2019, 11:16 AM
My updated top 10

St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (3.726) - I2097
Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (4.344) - I1767
Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (5.475) - I2981
Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.602) - Hinxton 4 32
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (5.531) - ORE-A1
Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.718) - I5383
Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.844) - CL92
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.164) - VDP-A6
Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.32) - I2452
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.791) - GTE-A1



Ancient pop- Viking(Icelandic),Longobard and Celt
Except Living dna- Viking(Icelandic),Celt and Saxon


Deep dive

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=23.47
Largest segment=15.52 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)


Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=15.29
Largest segment=15.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Germano-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-3
Total cM=22.06
Largest segment=14.97 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 29)


Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=39.59
Largest segment=14.45 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
VDP-A7
Total cM=9.31

Bronze Age Jutland Denmark
1400 BC
Rise47
Total cM=184.29
Largest segment=12.01 cM (39 shared. Sample quality: 6)

Detailed timeline

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Ancestry%20DNA%20timeline1.png

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Ancestry%20DNA%20timeline%202.png

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Ancestry%20DNA%20timeline%203.png

oszkar07
06-29-2019, 12:45 PM
Modern Populations

1. East_German (6.843)
2. Austrian (6.873)
3. Czech (7.301)
4. South_Dutch (10.49)
5. North_German (10.58)
6. Hungarian (11.12)
7. German_Central (11.88)
8. Southwest_Finnish (12.00)

Ancient Samples


1. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.864) (Click for more info)
2. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (9.138) (Click for more info)
3. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (9.142) (Click for more info)
4. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) (9.246) (Click for more info)
5. Western Pomerania Unetice (1860 BC) (9.246) (Click for more info)
6. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (9.416) (Click for more info)
7. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (9.647) (Click for more info)
8. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (9.687) (Click for more info)
9. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (9.702) (Click for more info)
10. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.84) (Click for more info)
11. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (10.78) (Click for more info)
12. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) (10.92) (Click for more info)
13. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.99) (Click for more info)
14. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (11.05) (Click for more info)
15. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.11) (Click for more info)
16. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (11.19) (Click for more info)
17. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (12.05) (Click for more info)
18. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (12.54) (Click for more info)
19. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (12.88) (Click for more info)
20. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (13.0) (Click for more info)
21. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (13.16) (Click for more info)
22. Halstatt (775 BC) (13.32) (Click for more info)
23. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (13.36) (Click for more info)
24. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) (13.49) (Click for more info)
25. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (13.49) (Click for more info)
26. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (13.54) (Click for more info)
27. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (13.58) (Click for more info)
28. Medieval Czech Brandysek (710 AD) (13.6) (Click for more info)
29. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (13.64) (Click for more info)
30. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (13.67) (Click for more info)
31. Unetice Bohemia (1875 BC) (13.91) (Click for more info)
32. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (14.09) (Click for more info)
33. Bell Beaker England (2165 BC) (14.13) (Click for more info)
34. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (14.15) (Click for more info)
35. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (14.2) (Click for more info)
36. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (14.23) (Click for more info)
37. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (14.33) (Click for more info)
38. Avar (590 AD) (14.36) (Click for more info)
39. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (14.37) (Click for more info)
40. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) (14.38) (Click for more info)

Its an ok site ...but seems expensive for what it is considering we can get similiar calculators like the K36 ancient on YourDNAPortal etc.

I upgraded to Knight level but I dont think I will upgrade any further ...this is pretty expensive site for whats being offered .

ph2ter
06-29-2019, 02:10 PM
Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Czech (6.861)
2. Austrian (7.189)
3. Croatian (8.572)
4. South_Polish (10.46)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) (9.669)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.669)
3. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (9.849)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.28)
5. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (13.26)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.66)
7. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) (13.99)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.48)
9. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) (14.75)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.8)
11. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (15.07)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.61)
13. Avar (590 AD) (15.85)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.02)
15. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (16.04)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.04)
17. Caspian Steppes (1550 BC) (16.08)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.42)
19. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (16.46)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.74)

http://i65.tinypic.com/fa0uhs.gif

Grace O'Malley
06-29-2019, 02:49 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/ZbZhflxA962NehDUWo/giphy.gif

1. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (3.08) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
2. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (3.412) - I2452 (Click for more info)
3. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (4.959) - I2981 (Click for more info)
4. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (5.159) - I5367 (Click for more info)
5. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.316) - CL92 (Click for more info)
6. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (5.323) - Unknown (Click for more info)
7. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (5.337) - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info)
8. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (5.395) - I1767 (Click for more info)
9. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (5.498) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
10. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.509) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
11. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.567) - I5383 (Click for more info)
12. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (5.828) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
13. Pict (670 AD) (5.88) - CL83 (Click for more info)
14. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (5.983) - I2097 (Click for more info)
15. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (6.416) - 97029 (Click for more info)
16. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (6.668) - AED_249 (Click for more info)
17. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.835) - VDP-A7 (Click for more info)
18. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (6.886) - ALH_10 (Click for more info)
19. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (6.97) - CL145 (Click for more info)
20. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (7.161) - I3255 (Click for more info)
21. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.344) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
22. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (7.366) - Sigtuna stg021 (Click for more info)
23. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.846) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
24. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (7.999) - I2418 (Click for more info)
25. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) (8.033) - Rise150 (Click for more info)
26. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.065) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
27. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (8.099) - I5382 (Click for more info)
28. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (8.144) - I5512 (Click for more info)
29. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (8.166) - Rathlin2 (Click for more info)
30. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (8.23) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
31. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (8.354) - I2447 (Click for more info)
32. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.412) - CL146 (Click for more info)
33. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (8.414) - Shohola (Click for more info)
34. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (8.531) - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info)
35. Bell Beaker Ely England (2165 BC) (8.579) - I2453 (Click for more info)
36. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.715) - SZ22 (Click for more info)
37. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.748) - SZ2 (Click for more info)
38. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.776) - 6DRIF-21 (Click for more info)
39. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (8.808) - ALH_1 (Click for more info)
40. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.855) - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info)
41. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.887) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
42. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) (8.911) - Rathlin1 (Click for more info)
43. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (8.911) - SVK-A1 (Click for more info)
44. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.967) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
45. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (9.012) - NW_255 (Click for more info)
46. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (9.214) - Hinxton HS1 (Click for more info)
47. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (9.23) - SZ11 (Click for more info)
48. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (9.293) - I0112 (Click for more info)
49. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.296) - SZ7 (Click for more info)
50. Gaelic Child Viking Iceland (935 AD) (9.298) - YGS-B2 (Click for more info)
51. Pre-Viking Sweden (500 AD) (9.485) - Rise174 Oxie7 (Click for more info)
52. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.512) - SZ9 (Click for more info)
53. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (9.568) - I2568 (Click for more info)
54. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (9.606) - I5513 (Click for more info)
55. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (9.633) - I2655 (Click for more info)
56. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.654) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
57. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (9.711) - I0806 (Click for more info)
58. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (9.757) - SZ16 (Click for more info)
59. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (10.03) - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info)
60. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (10.04) - STR_316 (Click for more info)

I found this interesting information about the Icelandic samples.


When interpreting the results obtained from the preceding population genetics analyses, it is important to bear in mind that mtDNA variation is weakly stratified among European populations [1]. For this reason, it is somewhat surprising to observe significant differences between the IEMS and any closely related contemporary populations. However, the population size of Iceland and the other North Atlantic islands has been small during the last 1100 years, compared to the other groups included in these analyses. Accordingly, there is evidence that the gene pools of these small populations have been more heavily affected by genetic drift than those of larger European populations [2],[9]. In the case of highly variable genetic systems, such as the mtDNA control region, this resulted in a faster rate of haplotype extinction and greater fluctuation in the frequencies of surviving haplotypes in the smaller populations [10]. This is the most straightforward explanation of the closer relationship between the IEMS and present-day samples from the source populations of Scotland, Ireland and Scandinavia (and three other regions of Europe) than to the descendants of the IEMS, contemporary Icelanders. Thus, because of faster drift induced evolution in Iceland, it appears that the haplotypes carried by the settlers have been better preserved in the source mtDNA pools of Scotland, Ireland and Scandinavia (and three other regions of Europe) than among contemporary Icelanders, the descendants of the settlers.

The paragraph above is specifically about mtdna. The mtdna diversity of Icelanders has decreased so that populations in Scotland, Ireland and Scandinavia have more links to the mtdna of some of the ancient samples than present Icelanders. I read about this sort of thing before and mtdna and ydna are very much subject to drift and can suffer a loss of diversity in populations more so than autosomal dna.

Adamm
06-29-2019, 04:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fS0BOhD.gif

Voskos
06-29-2019, 11:05 PM
Is this a safe site?

paradox
06-30-2019, 02:10 AM
Is this a safe site?Yes

Seya
06-30-2019, 09:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/WIrI2fD.png (https://imgur.com/WIrI2fD)

we all got that Seleucid now lol :D

firemonkey
06-30-2019, 11:48 AM
My top 20 ancient samples and my father's top 20 (Using FTDNA for both)


1. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (3.926) - I2097 (Click for more info)
2. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (4.311) - I1767 (Click for more info)
3. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (5.368) - I2981 (Click for more info)
4. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.569) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.578) - I5383 (Click for more info)
6. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (5.591) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
7. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.769) - CL92 (Click for more info)
8. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.155) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
9. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.19) - I2452 (Click for more info)
10. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (6.597) - 97029 (Click for more info)
11. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (6.656) - Unknown (Click for more info)
12. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (6.714) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.942) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
14. Pict (670 AD) (7.017) - CL83 (Click for more info)
15. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.116) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
16. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (7.184) - Rathlin2 (Click for more info)
17. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.201) - ALH_10 (Click for more info)
18. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (7.384) - GRS-A1 (Click for more info)
19. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.44) - AED_249 (Click for more info)
20. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (7.646) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)

Father


1. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (4.868) - I1767 (Click for more info)
2. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (5.571) - I2097 (Click for more info)
3. Pict (670 AD) (5.735) - CL83 (Click for more info)
4. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.736) - CL92 (Click for more info)
5. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.766) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
6. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.986) - I5383 (Click for more info)
7. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.473) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
8. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.645) - I2452 (Click for more info)
9. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.676) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
10. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.703) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
11. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.812) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
12. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (7.108) - I2981 (Click for more info)
13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.289) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
14. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.406) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
15. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.451) - I3875 (Click for more info)
16. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.461) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
17. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.644) - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info)
18. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.723) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
19. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (7.754) - Unknown (Click for more info)
20. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (7.858) - Rise577 (Click for more info)

J. Ketch
06-30-2019, 12:46 PM
I lost my Langobard and got an extra Viking.

https://i.postimg.cc/52LsySSR/mytrueancestryjune19.jpg

Bronze Age Orkney is still No. 1 though, so disregard the previous graphic.

1. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (4.877)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (5.708)
3. Viking Norse Iceland (1270 AD) (6.265)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (6.467)
5. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (6.642)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (6.662)
7. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (6.67)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.314)
9. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.327)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.386)
11. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (7.538)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.547)
13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.592)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.835)
15. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.841)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.059)
17. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.142)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.229)
19. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.24)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.277)

https://i.postimg.cc/8cbQZL6z/MTA.jpg

RandomGuy20
06-30-2019, 01:51 PM
My grandmothers results who is predominantly a mix between North German, Scandinavian and UK areas.
https://i.imgur.com/0PhkFId.png
https://i.imgur.com/jJXiUwt.png
https://i.imgur.com/AYKM05w.png

Western_French
07-01-2019, 11:31 AM
Hello, I am new on this forum and I have a passion for ancient civilizations. I am not sure how reliable this website is really. I am from Western France, atlantic coast, and to my knowledge I only have local ancestors. These are my results. I was expecting to see some celts, franks, romans but my results are quite different. I know vikings raiders came a lot in my region (Loire Atlantic), but I am not aware of any seriious settlement. So, having such a high genetic proximity with them is a very big surprise, I understand these samples were mixed with some celts but still.

Viking Icelandic (2.525)
Viking Icelandic + Visigoth (4.139)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (4.201)
Frank (8.933)
Visigoth (8.975)

89139

89140

89141

Ikol
07-01-2019, 11:46 AM
Your closest genetic modern populations...
1. Serbian (5.406)
2. Bosnian (6.807)
3. Romanian (7.882)
4. Moldavian (8.363)
5. [Hidden] - upgrade your account
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account
7. [Hidden] - upgrade your account
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account


https://imgur.com/8YkQJXA

Your closest Ancient populations...
Scythian
Gaul
Scythian + Gaul (7.341)
Scythian + Frank (9.241)
Gaul (11.75)
Scythian (12.57)
Frank (15.87)


Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (6.115)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.959)
3. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (11.75)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.57)
5. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (13.35)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.51)
7. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (14.54)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.7)
9. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (14.77)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.87)
11. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (16.23)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.36)
13. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (16.53)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.21)
15. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (17.59)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.59)
17. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (17.59)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.64)
19. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (17.64)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.86)



Soo. what does it acutal say?

Grace O'Malley
07-02-2019, 02:29 PM
This has been updated again. Has anyone else got any updates?

https://media.giphy.com/media/QsaeKRHTUccMu7M4en/giphy.gif

Here's all my deepdive results now.

http://i64.tinypic.com/25khmi9.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/2qlz5md.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/15egs2g.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/211jmyp.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2lsk1hj.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/fp575x.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/21l4yh3.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/21l4yh3.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/20kdv91.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/359wf86.jpg

Western_French
07-02-2019, 04:07 PM
Hi Grace, do you know which level is requested on the website to be able to check shared DNA segments with these iceland vikings ? And, is there a way to know if these segments are gaelic or viking, sorry if my question look stupid, still learning :) I know vikings came a lot in my area, from Noirmoutiers island until nantes and would be interesting to know if these invasions had an impact on my DNA.

firemonkey
07-02-2019, 05:17 PM
Deep dive

Deep dive
23
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=57.07
Largest segment=23.42 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 95)
Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=23.47
Largest segment=15.52 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=29.46
Largest segment=15.22 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Ancestry
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=111.0
Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
KNS-A1
Total cM=28.31
Largest segment=20.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
FSS-A1
Total cM=40.91
Largest segment=18.94 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 47)

Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=44.46
Largest segment=16.0 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=15.29
Largest segment=15.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Germano-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-3
Total cM=22.06
Largest segment=14.97 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 29)


Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=39.59
Largest segment=14.45 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=33.82
Largest segment=12.26 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
VDP-A7
Total cM=9.31
Largest segment=9.31 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 63)

FTDNA
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=166.32
Largest segment=56.38 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 95)

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
KNS-A1
Total cM=28.3
Largest segment=20.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33)
Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=34.96
Largest segment=19.67 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
FSS-A1
Total cM=40.91
Largest segment=18.94 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 47)
Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=59.55
Largest segment=16.54 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=45.89
Largest segment=14.45 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=34.77
Largest segment=12.26 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 69)
Germano-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-3
Total cM=21.99
Largest segment=12.08 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 29)

My heritage
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=124.17
Largest segment=56.38 cM (6 shared. Sample quality: 95)

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
KNS-A1
Total cM=28.3
Largest segment=20.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33)


Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
FSS-A1
Total cM=29.1
Largest segment=18.94 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 47)

Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=44.89
Largest segment=16.54 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=15.29
Largest segment=15.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=29.15
Largest segment=14.45 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=51.34
Largest segment=12.26 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
VDP-A7
Total cM=18.72
Largest segment=9.41 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 63)

Grace O'Malley
07-03-2019, 01:06 PM
Hi Grace, do you know which level is requested on the website to be able to check shared DNA segments with these iceland vikings ? And, is there a way to know if these segments are gaelic or viking, sorry if my question look stupid, still learning :) I know vikings came a lot in my area, from Noirmoutiers island until nantes and would be interesting to know if these invasions had an impact on my DNA.

It is an interesting question. On Mytrueancestry the deep dive connections are done on the website so I don't think you can check yourself. The Gaelic/Norse breakdown of the samples comes from the Icelandic study here.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/1028

You can see the breakdown of the Icelandic samples here.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2sbwpr9.jpg

Personally I don't take these results as meaning I have actual heritage from these genomes although any closely related population will have some shared genes. It would be great if tests one day offer to see if you have actual ancestry from some of these genomes. I really think that sort of thing will be offered in the future as people have a real thirst for these sort of questions.

Some people have been looking at Gedmatch to see if they do share with some of the ancients uploaded there.

Western_French
07-03-2019, 01:52 PM
Thanks for this Grace. I don't take too much for granted these results either, I guess most native people from my region (Loire-Atlantic & Vendée) would have some slightly similar results. But I think it's really fascinating finding some real proves of all these medieval stories. Also, I really have a very low distance with one of these icelandic samples (2.5), hence my question, but from my account I can't see the reference of that sample in oder to relate to the chart you uploaded showing the breakdown between gaelic and viking propertions, but if I could I could more efficiently relate it, if it's SVK-A1 for example I would know for sure it's related to them. Maybe there are others ways to find out, is someone aware of an ancient kit on Gedmatch of a real viking (Norvegian or Danish) from the 9th century ?

Grace O'Malley
07-03-2019, 02:01 PM
Thanks for this Grace. I don't take too much for granted these results either, I guess most native people from my region (Loire-Atlantic & Vendée) would have some slightly similar results. But I think it's really fascinating finding some real proves of all these medieval stories. Also, I really have a very low distance with one of these icelandic samples (2.5), hence my question, but from my account I can't see the reference of that sample in oder to relate to the chart you uploaded showing the breakdown between gaelic and viking propertions, but if I could I could more efficiently relate it, if it's SVK-A1 for example I would know for sure it's related to them. Maybe there are others ways to find out, is someone aware of an ancient kit on Gedmatch of a real viking (Norvegian or Danish) from the 9th century ?

Post it and it might be possible to work out what sample it is. Is this a deep dive result? If it is due to distance I just take that as being a similar population. Many people like myself have a lot of closeness to some of the Lombard samples but that's because they are genetically Northern European.

farke1
07-03-2019, 02:11 PM
This has been updated again. Has anyone else got any updates?
Thanks for telling us! None of my maps have changed, but my ancient populations have (updated in my sig). The site seems to have shifted me slightly further away from Celts and a bit closer to Vikings. My 'closest modern genetic populations' have also changed as well - I remember it predicting Norwegian was my closest ethnicity before, and now it's changed to Orcadian which seems to be more in line with both my known ancestry and stuff like the K36 calculator (my Irish also shot up from 8th to 4th place). Great update overall I think :)

Western_French
07-03-2019, 02:32 PM
This is the only information I have :

Sorry it's an attachment, couldn't figure how to embed pictures

16coresCasual
07-03-2019, 03:14 PM
Just to remind you
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/610688/up-to-40-of-results-from-consumer-dna-tests-might-be-bogus/
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/224192/20180402/up-to-40-percent-of-direct-to-consumer-dna-tests-are-wrong.htm

Western_French
07-03-2019, 03:33 PM
Yes, nobody should take these ancestry results for granted but gives a rough idea I think.

Moje ime
07-03-2019, 03:53 PM
I have update in Ancient Samples from place 10 to 20 but no significant changes in Ancient Population.

https://i.imgur.com/Vc12eVD.png

https://i.imgur.com/EjqVfE6.png

https://i.imgur.com/cY0lY5V.png

Enr1989
07-03-2019, 04:04 PM
My result :
Your closest Ancient populations...
Gaul
Gaul + Thracian (6.006)
Thracian + Frank (6.127)
Gaul (6.725)
Frank (9.134)
Thracian (10.47)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. North_Italian (10.47)
2. Serbian (11.40)
3. French (11.62)
4. Spanish_Galicia (12.24)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (6.725)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.144)
3. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.375)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.134)
5. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (9.223)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.18)
7. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (10.47)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.47)
9. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (10.87)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.05)
11. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (11.15)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.2)
13. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (11.38)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.6)
15. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (11.91)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.24)
17. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (12.66)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.28)
19. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (14.04)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.1)


89191

firemonkey
07-04-2019, 10:33 AM
Ancient populations.

23andMe

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.422)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.314)
Viking Icelandic (5.531)
Longobard (5.844)
Celt (6.164)



Ancestry DNA

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.511)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.338)
Viking Icelandic (5.726)
Longobard (5.742)
Celt (6.043)

FTDNA

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.51)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.298)
Viking Icelandic (5.591)
Longobard (5.769)
Celt (6.155)

My heritage

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.441)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.161)
Longobard (5.61)
Viking Icelandic (5.672)
Celt (6.106)


Father FTDNA

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.895)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.29)
Longobard (5.736)
Viking Icelandic (6.676)
Celt (6.676)

firemonkey
07-04-2019, 08:11 PM
Deep dive Euro Ancestry DNA upload



https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/rsz_deep_dive_europe_map_ancestry_dna.png

Ayetooey
07-04-2019, 08:20 PM
I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

Western_French
07-04-2019, 08:23 PM
They are adding new samples so I think people are getting closer from their real ancestry but I agree it has not to be taken too seriously though

Rędwald
07-04-2019, 08:35 PM
1. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (6.557)

My new closest sample makes sense given my ancestry.

firemonkey
07-04-2019, 09:05 PM
1. The deep dive matches are total bunkum.
2. The deep dive matches are real but the total cMs/longest shared segments are far too high.
3. There's no problem at all with the deep dive matches

Dick
07-05-2019, 12:39 AM
I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

So does 23andme and other companies but of course not everyday. None of this is set in stone and probably never will be with new ancient samples, updates etc etc

Rędwald
07-05-2019, 12:42 AM
I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

I'm sure they have experienced an increase in their user base as a result of forums like this. So naturally, as more populations are added to their calculators the estimates are going to change.

Coastal Elite
07-05-2019, 12:45 AM
I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

In the website's defense, the results change because they keep adding more samples, not necessarily because the site is inaccurate.

mashail
07-05-2019, 02:22 AM
https://i.imgur.com/JNxA3ou.jpg
your map is almost like mine
https://5.top4top.net/p_1281r5zkr1.jpeg

Mortimer
07-05-2019, 02:42 AM
I used the mytrueancestry compare populations to groups

Bangladeshi
1. *Chola (35.02)
2. *Hun (35.02)
3. Chola + Hun (35.02)
4. Chola + Ottoman (37.23)


How do populations relate to each other?

Select Modern Group: Balochi

... by Autosomal DNA
... by Male DNA
... by Female DNA
... to closest Ancient group

1. *Ottoman (30.34)
2. *Alan (30.34)
3. Ottoman + Alan (30.34)
4. Ottoman + Cimmerian (32.15

1. Brahui (1.864)
2. Makrani (6.045)
3. Afghan_Pashtun (10.08)
4. Kalash (14.45)
5. Pathan (14.79)
6. Burusho (18.92)
7. Tadjik (18.94)
8. Afghan_Uzbeki (19.01)

Gypsy

How do populations relate to each other?

Select Modern Group

... by Autosomal DNA
... by Male DNA
... by Female DNA
... to closest Ancient group

1. Afghan_Uzbeki (23.29)
2. Tadjik (23.95)
3. Turkmen (24.53)
4. Afghan_Tadjik (24.57)
5. Afghan_Pashtun (25.74)
6. Makrani (26.24)
7. Balochi (26.86)
8. Brahui (27.39

1. *Roman (25.42)
2. *Ottoman (25.42)
3. Roman + Ottoman (25.42)
4. Seleucid + Ottoman (27.51)

mashail
07-05-2019, 02:42 AM
my map:-
https://3.top4top.net/p_12812zsoe1.jpeg
https://1.top4top.net/p_1281bmk2z1.jpeg
my closest Archaeogenetic matches... is:
1. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) (16.15) - 3DRIF-26
2. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) (17.04) - JK2911
3. Bronze Age Levant (2100 BC) (20.05) - I1705
4. Nekht-Ankh Ancient Egypt (1800 BC) (20.22) - Nekht-Ankh
5. Canaanite (1600 BC) (21.87) - ERS1790732
6. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) (22.99) - JK2134
7. Canaanite (1650 BC) (23.63) - ERS1790733
8. Bronze Age Levant (2250 BC) (24.14) - I1730
9. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (24.66) - QED-9
10. Ancient Egypt (50 BC) (25.56) - JK2888
11. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (25.75) - QED-2
12. Canaanite (1600 BC) (25.79) - ERS1790729
13. Neolithic Levant (4200 BC) (26.02) - I1169
14. Canaanite (1600 BC) (27.28) - ERS1790730
15. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (28.92) - QED-7
16. Samaritan (2000 AD) (29.26) - Unknown
17. Neolithic Levant (7000 BC) (30.31) - I0867
18. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (31.46) - SI-38
19. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (33.08) - QED-4
20. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (33.45) - I3808
21. Guanche Canary Islands (800 AD) (34.63) - gun011
22. Crusader Knight Syrian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (36.22) - SI-42
23. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) (36.76) - SI-45
24. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (36.76) - CL30
25. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (37.12) - MA2208
26. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (37.42) - CL38
27. Minoan (2000 BC) (38.07) - I9129
28. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (38.25) - I9010
29. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (39.93) - MA2200
30. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) (40.07) - KEB1
31. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (40.19) - CL25
32. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) (40.83) - MA2198
33. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (41.53) - I9006
34. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (41.74) - SZ40
35. Roman Era Greco Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (41.95) - QED-12
36. Medieval Iran (1450 AD) (41.99) - I1955
37. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (42.42) - Ker1
38. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) (42.47) - I3980
39. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (42.64) - I9041
40. Minoan (2000 BC) (42.68) - I0071
41. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (43.19) - MA2206
42. Minoan (2000 BC) (43.45) - I0074
43. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (43.52) - CL121
44. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) (43.6) - I1665
45. Minoan (2000 BC) (43.97) - I9005
46. Minoan (2000 BC) (44.25) - I0070
47. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (44.84) - I3575
48. Iberomaurusian (10000 BC) (44.9) - TAF010
49. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (44.93) - I7424
50. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (45.09) - SI-41
51. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (45.23) - SZ19
52. Ottoman (1500 AD) (45.31) - MA2196
53. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (45.76) - I3983
54. Central Roman (590 AD) (45.79) - SZ36
55. Minoan (2000 BC) (45.96) - I9128
56. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (46.02) - I0184
57. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (46.1) - I9033
58. Minoan (2000 BC) (46.24) - I9131
59. Guanche Canary Islands (630 AD) (46.25) - gun012
60. Iron Age Kurdistan (900 BC) (46.48) - F38

Grace O'Malley
07-05-2019, 07:29 AM
These are my daughter's results.

http://i63.tinypic.com/adkmer.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2m44vb9.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2le2rdy.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/vg4fbt.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/2j35evq.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/312xmr8.jpg

Here are her ancient matches.

(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (5.031) - I1767 (Click for more info)
2. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (5.696) - I2097 (Click for more info)
3. Pict (670 AD) (5.756) - CL83 (Click for more info)
4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.119) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (6.127) - I5383 (Click for more info)
6. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.271) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
7. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.354) - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info)
8. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (6.564) - CL92 (Click for more info)
9. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.747) - I2452 (Click for more info)
10. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (6.753) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
11. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.88) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
12. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (6.886) - I2981 (Click for more info)
13. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.167) - I3875 (Click for more info)
14. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (7.607) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
15. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (7.699) - KOV-A2 (Click for more info)
16. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (7.818) - NW_255 (Click for more info)
17. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.891) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
18. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (7.945) - Rathlin2 (Click for more info)
19. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.951) - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info)
20. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (8.117) - I2568 (Click for more info)
21. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (8.164) - I3255 (Click for more info)
22. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (8.225) - Unknown (Click for more info)
23. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (8.326) - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info)
24. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.429) - Rise577 (Click for more info)
25. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (8.688) - SSG-A4 (Click for more info)
26. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.789) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
27. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.839) - CL146 (Click for more info)
28. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.958) - CL145 (Click for more info)
29. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (8.994) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
30. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (8.998) - KNS-A1 (Click for more info)
31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.02) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
32. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (9.125) - 97029 (Click for more info)
33. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (9.149) - GRS-A1 (Click for more info)
34. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.158) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
35. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.187) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
36. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (9.194) - SSJ-A2 (Click for more info)
37. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (9.306) - I5367 (Click for more info)
38. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (9.371) - DA119 (Click for more info)
39. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.371) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
40. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (9.394) - stg021 (Click for more info)
41. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.504) - ALH_1 (Click for more info)
42. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (9.57) - Sigtuna stg021 (Click for more info)
43. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.638) - I12162 (Click for more info)
44. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (9.651) - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info)
45. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (9.676) - Hinxton HS1 (Click for more info)
46. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.79) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
47. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (9.849) - FSS-A1 (Click for more info)
48. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.858) - ALH_10 (Click for more info)
49. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.981) - AED_249 (Click for more info)
50. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (10.0) - Shohola (Click for more info)
51. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (10.09) - I5471 (Click for more info)
52. Gaelic Child Viking Iceland (935 AD) (10.25) - YGS-B2 (Click for more info)
53. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.27) - SZ9 (Click for more info)
54. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.38) - CL84 (Click for more info)
55. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.48) - 6DRIF-21 (Click for more info)
56. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (10.68) - I2655 (Click for more info)
57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.81) - SZ8 (Click for more info)
58. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (10.83) - DKS-A1 (Click for more info)
59. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.88) - I2418 (Click for more info)
60. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.91) - SZ22 (Click for more info)

Grace O'Malley
07-05-2019, 07:44 AM
Adding some of my family's deepdive maps because they list the samples so people might be able to work out some of their matches.

http://i63.tinypic.com/11j9o54.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/sywffq.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/ixump5.jpg

This is my mother's map.

http://i64.tinypic.com/20kagzk.jpg

There is an amazing amount of consistency in the matches from Grandparent to Grandchild. I guess it helps that we are all the same genetically.

**JC**
07-05-2019, 09:02 AM
Hi guys great little community you have here!
Well I have a big interest in ancestry and geneology and came across mytrueancestry recently and had to check out the summer solstice sale and upgraded to Caesar level, very interesting site, not always correct, my modern admixture is way off apparently I'm Welsh?
I'm about as Welsh as the Dali Llama!
The deep dive levels of cM seem pretty crazy as well, my mum has 46.87cM from one of the Sigtuna Viking samples!? Hello ancient grandpa.
But it is a new site and as we all know DNA research is fluid and ever changing as more samples and information become available.

Anyway this what popped out when I uploaded my data to the site.

89225

89226

89227

89228

**JC**
07-05-2019, 09:10 AM
oops forgot to add my timeline, all in all pretty much what I expected, lots of Germanic and Celt, The Scythian is an oddball, not on the timeline but in my ancient population list, maybe a gaelic Irish/Scot connection?

89234

Lucas
07-05-2019, 09:44 AM
:bored:
lol so many newly created socks in this thread:)

farke1
07-05-2019, 09:52 AM
The deep dive levels of cM seem pretty crazy as well, my mum has 46.87cM from one of the Sigtuna Viking samples!? Hello ancient grandpa.
It's pretty insane, I wonder how accurate that is. I apparently share 107 cM with the "Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland", which could make him/her my second cousin - seems way too high for someone who lived almost 1000 years ago.

PaleoEuropean
07-05-2019, 10:27 AM
Upgraded to footman

1. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.539) (Click for more info)
2. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (6.84) (Click for more info)
3. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.88) (Click for more info)
4. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (7.206) (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (8.106) (Click for more info)
6. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.193) (Click for more info)
7. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (9.096) (Click for more info)
8. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.183) (Click for more info)
9. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.209) (Click for more info)
10. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (9.656) (Click for more info)
11. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.01) (Click for more info)
12. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.06) (Click for more info)
13. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (10.09) (Click for more info)
14. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.13) (Click for more info)
15. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.34) (Click for more info)
16. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (10.79) (Click for more info)
17. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.85) (Click for more info)
18. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (10.91) (Click for more info)
19. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (11.0) (Click for more info)
20. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.09) (Click for more info)

(looks like every single gedmatch calculator for me xD)

1. Southeast_English (8.585)
2. Irish (9.205)
3. Southwest_English (9.236)
4. West_Scottish (9.902)
5. South_Dutch (10.83)
6. Orcadian (11.88)
7. North_German (11.92)
8. Danish (12.30)


Viking Icelandic + Gaul (5.178)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.463)
Viking Icelandic (6.539)
Gaul (10.06)
Frank (10.13)

Western_French
07-05-2019, 10:29 AM
There is more than certainly a glitch in the part of their algorithm that calculates share segments distance, it's pretty obvious, hope it gets resolved asap and I am surprise they didn't realize it yet.

Grace O'Malley
07-05-2019, 10:35 AM
It's pretty insane, I wonder how accurate that is. I apparently share 107 cM with the "Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland", which could make him/her my second cousin - seems way too high for someone who lived almost 1000 years ago.

You should get your G25 done. It's very reasonable and well worth it because you can then get loads of models done on yourself. You can compare yourself to moderns and ancients. You can get it from Davidski at Eurogenes.

These are my closest results going to 250 samples using moderns and ancients. I've only removed a few custom users.

1 England_Saxon I0159 Ancient; CE:703 1.81
2 Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.876
3 Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 1.914
4 England_Saxon_Averaged Averaged 1.93
5 Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.964
6 Welsh_Averaged Averaged 1.977
7 Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.98
8 Icelandic NA15765 Modern; 2.081
9 English_Cornwall HG00243 Modern; 2.084
10 England_Roman_Averaged Averaged 2.146
12 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_Averaged Averaged 2.191
13 English_Averaged Averaged 2.206
14 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ7 Ancient; CE:505 2.211
15 Orcadian HGDP00803 Modern; 2.225
16 Irish Irish44 Modern; 2.233
17 England_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.237
18 Irish Irish50 Modern; 2.239
19 Irish Irish51 Modern; 2.246
20 Welsh WAL001 Modern; 2.248
21 Orcadian HGDP00797 Modern; 2.255
23 Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.336
24 Welsh WAL004 Modern; 2.34
25 England_Saxon NO3423 Ancient; CE:780 2.356
26 French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.359
27 Scotland_LBA_Averaged Averaged 2.362
28 Scottish Scottish15 Modern; 2.364
29 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt035 2.366
30 English_Cornwall HG00160 Modern; 2.375
31 Orcadian HGDP00799 Modern; 2.379
32 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ16 Ancient; CE:505 2.384
33 Orcadian HGDP00804 Modern; 2.42
34 England_IA I0156 Ancient; BCE:45 2.423
35 Icelandic NA15759 Modern; 2.425
36 Icelandic NA15766 Modern; 2.44
37 English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.454
38 Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.459
39 Irish Irish54 Modern; 2.473
40 Irish Irish2 Modern; 2.478
41 Scottish Scottish12 Modern; 2.481
42 ITA_Collegno_MA CL84 Ancient; CE:671 2.492
43 Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.494
44 Scottish Scottish18 Modern; 2.511
45 Scottish Scottish9 Modern; 2.511
46 Scottish Scottish24 Modern; 2.526
49 English_Cornwall HG00259 Modern; 2.528
50 ITA_Collegno_MA CL146 Ancient; CE:671 2.532
51 Irish Irish57 Modern; 2.533
53 England_IA_Averaged Averaged 2.553
54 French_Brittany French24090 2.565
58 ITA_Collegno_MA CL93 Ancient; CE:671 2.593
59 Irish Irish53 Modern; 2.594
60 England_Saxon I0157 Ancient; CE:718 2.616
62 Scotland_MBA I2655 Ancient; BCE:1356 2.654
63 Swedish_Averaged Averaged 2.659
64 Scottish Scottish27 Modern; 2.667
65 Welsh WAL003 Modern; 2.673
67 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ12 Ancient; CE:505 2.693
68 England_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 2.719
69 Swedish Sweden4 Modern; 2.72
70 Scottish Scottish6 Modern; 2.722
71 Scotland_LBA I2860 Ancient; BCE:892 2.726
72 Icelandic NA15764 Modern; 2.729
73 Irish Irish60 Modern; 2.731
74 Irish Irish39 Modern; 2.731
75 English England11 Modern; 2.743
76 Scottish Scottish1 Modern; 2.745
77 Swedish Sweden9 Modern; 2.748
79 Irish Irish61 Modern; 2.762
80 Irish Irish55 Modern; 2.767
81 Shetlandic Shetlands2 Modern; 2.768
82 Norwegian NOR152 Modern; 2.77
83 Icelandic NA15758 Modern; 2.777
84 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ9 Ancient; CE:505 2.785
85 French_Brittany French23989 2.789
86 French_Brittany French23833 2.791
87 England_MBA I2458 Ancient; BCE:1389 2.795
88 French_Brittany French24400 2.796
89 Irish Irish56 Modern; 2.798
90 Scotland_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.798
91 Irish Irish5 Modern; 2.818
92 French_Brittany French24247 2.82
93 Irish Irish41 Modern; 2.839
94 Norwegian NOR108 Modern; 2.84
95 Bell_Beaker_POL I6583 Ancient; BCE:2169 2.84
96 Scotland_LBA I2859 Ancient; BCE:859 2.841
97 Scottish Scottish22 Modern; 2.859
98 Orcadian HGDP00800 Modern; 2.869
99 Irish Irish62 Modern; 2.872
100 English England12 Modern; 2.886
101 Swedish Sweden7 Modern; 2.894
102 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ11 Ancient; CE:505 2.903
103 English English5 Modern; 2.904
104 English_Cornwall HG00255 Modern; 2.906
105 English English2 Modern; 2.915
106 Irish Irish37 Modern; 2.921
107 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ13 Ancient; CE:505 2.921
108 England_MBA I7572 Ancient; BCE:1406 2.922
109 Scottish Scottish21 Modern; 2.925
110 Scottish Scottish2 Modern; 2.926
111 Swedish Sweden1 Modern; 2.928
112 Scotland_MBA I2653 Ancient; BCE:1400 2.936
114 English_Cornwall HG00264 Modern; 2.946
117 Irish Irish64 Modern; 2.958
118 England_Roman 6DT23 Ancient; CE:200 2.964
119 Scottish Scottish17 Modern; 2.973
120 Scottish Scottish13 Modern; 2.983
121 DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN I0059 Ancient; BCE:2200 2.987
123 England_MBA I7577 Ancient; BCE:1254 3
124 Dutch Netherlands11 Modern; 3.001
125 England_Saxon I0769 Ancient; CE:495 3.001
126 ITA_Collegno_MA CL83 Ancient; CE:671 3.006
128 England_MBA I7568 Ancient; BCE:1425 3.019
129 England_Saxon I0777 Ancient; CE:472 3.023
130 Orcadian HGDP00805 Modern; 3.025
131 IRL_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.031
132 Swedish Sweden10 Modern; 3.037
133 Icelandic NA15763 Modern; 3.038
134 England_Saxon I0774 Ancient; CE:467 3.04
135 English England13 Modern; 3.048
136 English HG01791 Modern; 3.049
137 DEU_MA_Averaged Averaged 3.049
138 Irish Irish52 Modern; 3.058
139 Irish Irish59 Modern; 3.065
140 Irish Irish48 Modern; 3.072
141 English_Cornwall HG00232 Modern; 3.072
142 Scottish Scottish5 Modern; 3.073
143 England_Saxon I0161 Ancient; CE:785 3.076
144 Swedish Sweden16 Modern; 3.076
145 Scottish Scottish19 Modern; 3.08
147 English_Cornwall HG00249 Modern; 3.087
148 German German34 Modern; 3.089
149 Bell_Beaker_England I5379 Ancient; BCE:2382 3.096
150 English English6 Modern; 3.112
151 English England8 Modern; 3.116
152 Scottish Scottish8 Modern; 3.125
153 CZE_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.13
154 Wales_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.131
155 Wales_CA_EBA I1775 Ancient; BCE:1631 3.131
156 England_MBA I7627 Ancient; BCE:1316 3.14
157 England_Roman 6DT22 Ancient; CE:200 3.145
158 English English4 Modern; 3.147
159 English HG02215 Modern; 3.158
160 Scottish Scottish26 Modern; 3.162
161 Bell_Beaker_POL_Averaged Averaged 3.167
162 Bell_Beaker_England I3256 Ancient; BCE:2075 3.167
163 England_Roman 6DT21 Ancient; CE:200 3.168
164 Bell_Beaker_NLD I5750 Ancient; BCE:2100 3.168
165 Bell_Beaker_CZE I5514 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.169
166 Irish Irish42 Modern; 3.171
167 Norwegian NOR101 Modern; 3.182
168 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ22 Ancient; CE:505 3.183
169 Irish Irish12 Modern; 3.183
170 Irish Irish47 Modern; 3.187
171 English England15 Modern; 3.19
172 Irish Irish25 Modern; 3.191
173 Bell_Beaker_England_Averaged Averaged 3.192
174 Icelandic NA15757 Modern; 3.195
175 German German46 Modern; 3.197
176 Irish Irish21 Modern; 3.198
177 England_Saxon I0773 Ancient; CE:460 3.199
178 Orcadian HGDP00798 Modern; 3.2
179 Scottish Scottish25 Modern; 3.203
180 Irish Irish19 Modern; 3.208
181 Bell_Beaker_CZE I4895 Ancient; BCE:2160 3.209
182 Irish Irish31 Modern; 3.216
183 Scottish Scottish7 Modern; 3.218
184 Icelandic NA15756 Modern; 3.219
185 England_MBA I7570 Ancient; BCE:1633 3.224
186 Dutch Netherlands21 Modern; 3.229
187 England_MBA I7626 Ancient; BCE:1262 3.231
188 Bell_Beaker_CZE_Averaged Averaged 3.233
189 England_CA_EBA I5377 Ancient; BCE:1794 3.242
190 Swedish Sweden5 Modern; 3.248
191 French French41 Modern; 3.251
192 Irish Irish65 Modern; 3.253
193 Dutch Netherlands63 Modern; 3.255
194 Dutch Netherlands44 Modern; 3.257
195 Swedish Sweden20 Modern; 3.257
196 Icelandic NA15760 Modern; 3.258
197 Scottish Scottish16 Modern; 3.262
198 Scottish Scottish14 Modern; 3.262
199 Irish Irish58 Modern; 3.264
200 NLD_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.271
201 Scotland_LBA I2861 Ancient; BCE:900 3.272
202 England_Roman 6DT3 Ancient; CE:200 3.273
203 Swedish Sweden3 Modern; 3.273
204 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7249 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.274
205 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ4 Ancient; CE:505 3.275
206 England_MBA I7576 Ancient; BCE:1104 3.284
207 Shetlandic Shetlands3 Modern; 3.286
208 German German24 Modern; 3.287
209 Irish Irish46 Modern; 3.288
210 Dutch Netherlands36 Modern; 3.292
211 ITA_Collegno_MA CL92 Ancient; CE:671 3.293
213 Norwegian NOR109 Modern; 3.299
214 England_Roman 6DT18 Ancient; CE:200 3.309
215 Norwegian NOR107 Modern; 3.31
216 England_MBA I7571 Ancient; BCE:1353 3.318
217 Icelandic NA15755 Modern; 3.319
218 Irish Irish63 Modern; 3.323
219 Irish Irish43 Modern; 3.326
220 Scotland_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.329
221 German_Averaged Averaged 3.333
222 NLD_BA I4070 Ancient; BCE:1768 3.342
223 England_MBA I7574 Ancient; BCE:1318 3.345
224 Irish Irish33 Modern; 3.346
225 England_IA I0160 Ancient; BCE:45 3.347
226 English_Cornwall HG00236 Modern; 3.349
227 England_MBA I7573 Ancient; BCE:1574 3.349
228 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ42 Ancient; CE:505 3.356
229 English HG01789 Modern; 3.361
230 Irish Irish32 Modern; 3.363
231 Shetlandic Shetlands1 Modern; 3.364
232 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0805 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.366
233 Scotland_MBA I2573 Ancient; BCE:1400 3.368
234 Scottish Scottish3 Modern; 3.371
235 Irish Irish34 Modern; 3.378
236 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7212 Ancient; BCE:2350 3.378
237 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria I5521 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.383
238 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0112 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.386
239 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA_Averaged Averaged 3.387
240 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA I0099 Ancient; BCE:1067 3.387
241 DEU_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.395
242 Dutch Netherlands7 Modern; 3.402
243 Irish Irish3 Modern; 3.407
244 Irish Irish10 Modern; 3.411
245 ITA_Collegno_MA CL151 Ancient; CE:671 3.413
246 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7269 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.413
247 Orcadian HGDP00796 Modern; 3.423
248 DEU_Unetice_EBA I0117 Ancient; BCE:2155 3.423
249 Orcadian HGDP00802 Modern; 3.446
250 Icelandic NA15762 Modern; 3.452

The great thing about the G25 is that it is updated as new samples become available. I've noticed now that Brittany has been added to this. I've put the modern populations I'm closest to in blue.

firemonkey
07-05-2019, 11:28 AM
There is more than certainly a glitch in the part of their algorithm that calculates share segments distance, it's pretty obvious, hope it gets resolved asap and I am surprise they didn't realize it yet.

The more I read about it , from people here more knowledgeable than I am, the more I doubt the largest segment/total cMs for my deep dive matches . This for example is highly suspect.

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=111.0
Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

I wonder,might be paranoia I admit, whether the inflated total cMs/largest segment is done deliberately. The idea being that people will tell other people "I got some great results with this"

firemonkey
07-05-2019, 11:49 AM
My 250 with custom users left out.

1 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.447
2 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.614
3 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01789 Modern; 1.778
4 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.816
5 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00800 Modern; 1.941
6 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Averaged Averaged 1.945
7 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00799 Modern; 1.972
8 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG02215 Modern; 1.975
9 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA_Averaged Averaged 2.008
10 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.031
11 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman_Averaged Averaged 2.05
12 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish21 Modern; 2.055
13 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 2.059
15 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00797 Modern; 2.112
16 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR101 Modern; 2.116
17 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish1 Modern; 2.126
18 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15756 Modern; 2.141
19 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish26 Modern; 2.175
21 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish22 Modern; 2.181
22 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00796 Modern; 2.182
23 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.199
24 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish39 Modern; 2.203
25 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00803 Modern; 2.204
27 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.265

29 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish19 Modern; 2.308
30 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00160 Modern; 2.31
31 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00798 Modern; 2.314
33 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.354
34 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR107 Modern; 2.358
35 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA_Averaged Averaged 2.36
36 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish8 Modern; 2.383
37 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00259 Modern; 2.396
38 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0159 Ancient; CE:703 2.4
39 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish52 Modern; 2.407
40 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon NO3423 Ancient; CE:780 2.409
42 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh_Averaged Averaged 2.412
43 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.415
44 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL004 Modern; 2.416
45 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15758 Modern; 2.418
46 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00243 Modern; 2.428
47 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Custom AGUser_Timberwolf 2.43
48 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL84 Ancient; CE:671 2.445
49 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.461
51 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish12 Modern; 2.477
52 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish24 Modern; 2.489
53 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7627 Ancient; BCE:1316 2.49
55 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I2860 Ancient; BCE:892 2.514
56 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7572 Ancient; BCE:1406 2.515
57 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English5 Modern; 2.52
58 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish56 Modern; 2.526
59 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24247 2.529
61 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English2 Modern; 2.54
62 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish41 Modern; 2.542
63 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish34 Modern; 2.552
64 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish9 Modern; 2.564
65 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish27 Modern; 2.566
66 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00804 Modern; 2.569
67 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon_Averaged Averaged 2.573
68 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish51 Modern; 2.577
69 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00264 Modern; 2.585
71 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England13 Modern; 2.587
72 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR108 Modern; 2.589
73 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15757 Modern; 2.59
74 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish10 Modern; 2.596
75 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish44 Modern; 2.616
76 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00252 Modern; 2.62
77 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish58 Modern; 2.626
78 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt035 2.638
79 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_Averaged Averaged 2.638
80 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish37 Modern; 2.66
81 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_MBA I2655 Ancient; BCE:1356 2.663
82 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England7 Modern; 2.67
83 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish19 Modern; 2.672
84 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish57 Modern; 2.676
85 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish59 Modern; 2.693
86 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL83 Ancient; CE:671 2.693
87 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24400 2.699
88 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7578 Ancient; BCE:1119 2.702
89 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish17 Modern; 2.722
90 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL146 Ancient; CE:671 2.723
91 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish25 Modern; 2.725
92 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden3 Modern; 2.73
93 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00235 Modern; 2.733
94 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL001 Modern; 2.748
95 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ4 Ancient; CE:505 2.748
97 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7573 Ancient; BCE:1574 2.757
98 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish_Averaged Averaged 2.764
99 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00239 Modern; 2.767
100 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish3 Modern; 2.771
101 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00794 Modern; 2.777
102 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0774 Ancient; CE:467 2.778
103 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English6 Modern; 2.783
104 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish55 Modern; 2.788
105 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_IA I0160 Ancient; BCE:45 2.79
106 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish54 Modern; 2.797
107 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic Shetlands3 Modern; 2.809
108 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15766 Modern; 2.812
109 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish13 Modern; 2.813
110 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish50 Modern; 2.814
111 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT23 Ancient; CE:200 2.818
112 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish7 Modern; 2.821
113 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I2861 Ancient; BCE:900 2.83
114 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish63 Modern; 2.831
115 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00261 Modern; 2.847
116 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish18 Modern; 2.847
117 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_POL I6583 Ancient; BCE:2169 2.85
118 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden9 Modern; 2.857
119 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French23833 2.863
120 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden4 Modern; 2.87
121 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00255 Modern; 2.873
122 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish10 Modern; 2.877
123 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA ALH_10 Ancient; CE:495 2.878
126 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English1 Modern; 2.885
127 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish64 Modern; 2.895
128 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish13 Modern; 2.895
129 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15764 Modern; 2.897
130 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish28 Modern; 2.9
131 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00253 Modern; 2.904
132 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24120 2.91
133 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish53 Modern; 2.916
134 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English3 Modern; 2.918
135 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15765 Modern; 2.931
136 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00232 Modern; 2.933
137 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_EMBA I2639 Ancient; BCE:1515 2.933
138 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_EMBA_Averaged Averaged 2.933
139 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish33 Modern; 2.94
140 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden6 Modern; 2.942
141 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish2 Modern; 2.943
142 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish42 Modern; 2.945
143 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_IA_Averaged Averaged 2.949
144 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish11 Modern; 2.963
145 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish45 Modern; 2.964
146 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL92 Ancient; CE:671 2.964
147 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT3 Ancient; CE:200 2.966
148 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish60 Modern; 2.969
149 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_stg021 2.977
151 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish21 Modern; 2.987
152 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey CZE_EBA I7196 Ancient; BCE:1950 2.987
153 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey German German78 Modern; 2.987
154 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands23 Modern; 2.995
155 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ16 Ancient; CE:505 2.997
156 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I2859 Ancient; BCE:859 3.008
158 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7571 Ancient; BCE:1353 3.015
159 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden1 Modern; 3.024
160 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish16 Modern; 3.03
161 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish32 Modern; 3.034
162 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I3130 Ancient; BCE:900 3.053
163 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish27 Modern; 3.058
165 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England12 Modern; 3.067
166 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey German German68 Modern; 3.068
167 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00805 Modern; 3.073
168 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Wales_CA_EBA I1775 Ancient; BCE:1631 3.075
169 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Wales_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.075
170 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden10 Modern; 3.076
171 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish14 Modern; 3.077
172 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.086
173 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_MBA I2653 Ancient; BCE:1400 3.086
174 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish47 Modern; 3.092
175 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands21 Modern; 3.093
176 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish22 Modern; 3.099
177 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 3DT16 Ancient; CE:200 3.1
178 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish65 Modern; 3.1
179 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic Shetlands2 Modern; 3.102
180 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish20 Modern; 3.104
182 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish49 Modern; 3.117
183 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French23989 3.119
184 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_England I1767 Ancient; BCE:2089 3.124
185 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_MBA_Averaged Averaged 3.127
186 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN I0059 Ancient; BCE:2200 3.133
187 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24090 3.135
188 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands10 Modern; 3.14
189 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands40 Modern; 3.143
190 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England11 Modern; 3.147
191 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish23 Modern; 3.159
192 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0161 Ancient; CE:785 3.164
193 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL003 Modern; 3.166
194 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish6 Modern; 3.178
195 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_Unetice_EBA I0117 Ancient; BCE:2155 3.183
196 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ38 Ancient; CE:505 3.191
197 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands11 Modern; 3.194
198 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands7 Modern; 3.194
199 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic Shetlands1 Modern; 3.199
200 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England14 Modern; 3.201
201 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ7 Ancient; CE:505 3.204
202 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00236 Modern; 3.206
203 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01790 Modern; 3.211
204 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL151 Ancient; CE:671 3.212
205 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_England I5512 Ancient; BCE:2150 3.214
206 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_IA_Averaged Averaged 3.219
207 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_IA RISE174 Ancient; CE:519 3.219
208 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_CA_EBA I2981 Ancient; BCE:1723 3.221
209 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Averaged Averaged 3.224
210 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish15 Modern; 3.226
211 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT18 Ancient; CE:200 3.227
212 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15762 Modern; 3.232
213 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA ALH_1 Ancient; CE:495 3.237
214 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands14 Modern; 3.243
215 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish25 Modern; 3.25
216 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01791 Modern; 3.251
217 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_CZE_Averaged Averaged 3.259
218 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0157 Ancient; CE:718 3.259
219 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR152 Modern; 3.262
220 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey German_Averaged Averaged 3.264
221 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish15 Modern; 3.266
222 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish61 Modern; 3.269
223 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15759 Modern; 3.282
224 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_IA I0156 Ancient; BCE:45 3.284
226 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_England I5379 Ancient; BCE:2382 3.295
227 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English4 Modern; 3.298
228 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey IRL_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.299
229 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish46 Modern; 3.302
230 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7575 Ancient; BCE:1153 3.303
231 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_POL_Averaged Averaged 3.307
232 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_CZE I7249 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.314
233 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT22 Ancient; CE:200 3.321
234 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_CA_EBA I6680 Ancient; BCE:1750 3.325
236 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden7 Modern; 3.337
237 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15761 Modern; 3.355
240 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey CZE_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.374
241 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish23 Modern; 3.377
242 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish48 Modern; 3.379
243 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French French57 Modern; 3.384
244 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands47 Modern; 3.386
245 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_CZE I4888 Ancient; BCE:2109 3.392
246 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_CZE I7269 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.397
247 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I3082 Ancient; BCE:1445 3.401
248 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0112 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.405
249 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_CA_EBA I2566 Ancient; BCE:2119 3.419
250 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ12 Ancient; CE:505 3.42

PaleoEuropean
07-05-2019, 12:24 PM
Although I don't have deep dive, the one it shows me for free is across every chromosome besides the two sex chromosomes. Does anyone else have this seemingly much CM's in common with samples?

https://i.imgur.com/XOOdKuM.jpg

Ikol
07-05-2019, 01:08 PM
Why are serbs so much related to romania and moldavia in gedmatch and this!

Western_French
07-05-2019, 01:20 PM
I am pretty newbie with all this personally but could be that a lot of the DNA of these old samples damaged significantly with time, hence the results not being very accurate, but all together it still gives a broad idea I think. For example I wouldn't rely too much on a DNA comparison with a 40000 years old Neanderthal specimen, that's way too old, but I would look at the comparison with a mediieval sample more seriously.

Western_French
07-05-2019, 01:28 PM
The more I read about it , from people here more knowledgeable than I am, the more I doubt the largest segment/total cMs for my deep dive matches . This for example is highly suspect.

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=111.0
Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

I wonder,might be paranoia I admit, whether the inflated total cMs/largest segment is done deliberately. The idea being that people will tell other people "I got some great results with this"

I would more think of a bug in their system when calculating the size of shared segments, they are still at the experimental stage you can see the way their website is improving constantly, there is no reason for them to give wrong results, because in the long term people would always find out and move away from them.

**JC**
07-06-2019, 02:50 AM
@PaleoEuropean
Congrats you're the direct descendant of this 1400BC individual!
These cM results are so way off it's not funny.
One of the Sigtuna "Vikings" 1100AD. That term bugs me and I will get to that later, is my mothers 4th cousin according to her results at almost 50 cM
If she is this individuals "4th Cousin" then why don't I have a match to the same DNA sample with my results?
Very funky stuff.

Getting back to the "Viking" thing this site is using, Viking is not an ethnicity is an occupation, it's what the Norse did.
Norsemen or Norse would be a more appropriate term to use.

I'll be sticking to Gedmatch and the calculators there for the time being, and checking out my"not quite so true"ancestry for a bit of a fun diversion and taking it all in with a grain of salt, there are certainly a number of things that do make sense.
I've found a paper trail of records with a connection to the 1650 Coffin DNA sample on my mothers side through a material line, but that deep dive? hmmmmmm.

Mortimer
07-06-2019, 03:17 AM
Your closest Ancient populations...

Roman

RomansScythiansGauls
Scythian + Roman (15.35)
Scythian + Gaul (20.04)
Roman (20.61)
Scythian (23.18)
Gaul (23.2)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (20.61) (Click for more info)
2. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (21.01) (Click for more info)
3. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (22.52) (Click for more info)
4. Scythian Ukraine (235 BC) (23.18) (Click for more info)
5. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (23.2) (Click for more info)
6. Central Roman (590 AD) (23.26) (Click for more info)
7. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (23.61) (Click for more info)
8. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (23.64) (Click for more info)
9. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (24.15) (Click for more info)
10. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) (24.19) (Click for more info)
11. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (24.24) (Click for more info)
12. Central Roman (670 AD) (24.44) (Click for more info)
13. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) (24.55) (Click for more info)
14. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (24.56) (Click for more info)
15. Central Roman (590 AD) (24.59) (Click for more info)
16. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (25.07) (Click for more info)
17. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (25.11) (Click for more info)
18. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (25.11) (Click for more info)
19. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (25.52) (Click for more info)
20. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (25.61) (Click for more info)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Greek_Thessaly (16.97)
2. Macedonian (17.26)
3. Romanian (17.78)
4. Gypsy (18.01)
5. Bulgarian (18.35)
6. Serbian (19.67)
7. Bosnian (20.16)
8. Kosovan (20.75)

PaleoEuropean
07-06-2019, 04:24 AM
@PaleoEuropean
Congrats you're the direct descendant of this 1400BC individual!
These cM results are so way off it's not funny.
One of the Sigtuna "Vikings" 1100AD. That term bugs me and I will get to that later, is my mothers 4th cousin according to her results at almost 50 cM
If she is this individuals "4th Cousin" then why don't I have a match to the same DNA sample with my results?
Very funky stuff.

Getting back to the "Viking" thing this site is using, Viking is not an ethnicity is an occupation, it's what the Norse did.
Norsemen or Norse would be a more appropriate term to use.

I'll be sticking to Gedmatch and the calculators there for the time being, and checking out my"not quite so true"ancestry for a bit of a fun diversion and taking it all in with a grain of salt, there are certainly a number of things that do make sense.
I've found a paper trail of records with a connection to the 1650 Coffin DNA sample on my mothers side through a material line, but that deep dive? hmmmmmm.

Yea only the original settlers of Iceland were actually like Pirate/Outlaw types, I hate that label too when it really doesn't apply to 60-70% of Norse history. I don't put much faith in autosomal dna, just found it weird because my haplgroup is from that area xD, it is like absurdly high though. They have a lot of work to do, DNA land is also wonky like that.

firemonkey
07-06-2019, 08:39 AM
I think , whether it be 'My true ancestry' 23andMe etc or a DIY calculator , that there's a lot of ifs and buts involved when it comes to interpreting the data.

Gallop
07-07-2019, 12:08 PM
Zeus

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i8HRitI_IIk/XSH-GYPBpkI/AAAAAAAAA8I/mGkJrcRxPN4rYzAUaHgeqynrB0A-xvGowCLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainMAPEEUROPEpremium100.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-c2MFzm0BX5o/XSHfwOW23OI/AAAAAAAAA6s/jXBRlgGFEHQr4v1r94_d-2Ob45bK7XFegCLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_main100ancientSanples.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qYXgwVOLpk8/XSHM_1JdAaI/AAAAAAAAA6g/Y9NaqQWisdAvb1lmJHJ01fw8Z0UPl6R_wCLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainArqueologicoMAPA100.jpg

Gallop
07-09-2019, 02:06 AM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eKYnOgKkTIQ/XSPw57osesI/AAAAAAAAA8s/ZxeTvzMpK64tpP7Rdd3S3_IV3LISwhP3QCLcBGAs/s1600/Image%2B9bis.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T_3oRFYTkHw/XSP1QZdrc0I/AAAAAAAAA9E/3nkJUdF-2Fc_oTtzbz5EtYQTcd_eHvI7gCLcBGAs/s1600/Image%2B10.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NOG-4vOo_8g/XSP2jSWtFRI/AAAAAAAAA9Q/Uu3YtgyTlw0rUdvoc9aou93fUxwSsIh1gCLcBGAs/s1600/Image%2B15.jpg

firemonkey
07-09-2019, 08:34 AM
I see you've got a Zeus account. I'm at the Caesar level. $100 for the upgrade is far too much . It gives me the impression the owners see it as being a cash cow.

Gallop
07-09-2019, 10:05 AM
I spend twice as much on tobacco.

Pater Patota
07-09-2019, 05:57 PM
These are my results without upgrade

89294
89295
89296
89297
89298
89299
89300

Gallop
07-09-2019, 10:49 PM
Your relatives from Ancient Times (you share identified DNA segments)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CA5lOhXzUtE/XSUZUwq-sPI/AAAAAAAAA9c/tvU7G4-uT3E1GQ3jQ1W3U1dEZqRbJZZwwCLcBGAs/s1600/timelimeZEUR.jpg

**JC**
07-11-2019, 12:56 AM
I see you've got a Zeus account. I'm at the Caesar level. $100 for the upgrade is far too much . It gives me the impression the owners see it as being a cash cow.

I'll wait for a sale, at that level $100 is too steep for 40 extra samples.
Also as a test I converted my Ancestry data to 23andme using DND Kit Studio, and uploaded the data to mytrueancestry and got differing cM results in the deep dive section. I picked up over 80cM on a completely different 'Viking' sample.
Not sure if it's the conversion skewing the results, but interesting and somewhat confusing none the less.

Pine
07-11-2019, 03:54 AM
These are my results without upgrade

89294
89295
89296
89297
89298
89299
89300

My maps look similar to yours. Can you see any of your Deep Dive results?

Pine
07-11-2019, 03:56 AM
These are my results without upgrade

89294
89295
89296
89297
89298
89299
89300

My maps look similar to yours. Can you see any of your Deep Dive results?

Gallop
07-11-2019, 09:28 AM
New

92. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) (24.71) - TSK-A26

Vandal + Saxon (4.231)
Vandal + Longobard (4.384)
Longobard (6.718)
Vandal (7.0)
Saxon (7.035)

Similar Samples

Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (3.835)
Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (5.51)
Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (5.926)
Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (6.636)
Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (6.718)

I would like you to add samples from Tartessos Andalucķa in MyTrueAncestry.

Adamm
07-11-2019, 02:59 PM
I also got a new update, instead of Roman Hispania and Ancient Egypt I became now a 'Philistine':

https://i.imgur.com/v8LBDx0.png

1. Guanche Canary Islands (800 AD) (5.691) (Click for more info)
2. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) (14.53) (Click for more info)
3. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (16.99) (Click for more info)
4. Guanche Canary Islands (630 AD) (17.58) (Click for more info)
5. Guanche Canary Islands (1090 AD) (18.0) (Click for more info)
6. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) (18.02) (Click for more info)
7. Ahskelon Philistine (1150 BC) (18.64) (Click for more info)
8. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) (20.8) (Click for more info)
9. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) (20.96) (Click for more info)
10. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) (22.69) (Click for more info)
11. Guanche Canary Islands (960 AD) (22.86) (Click for more info)
12. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (23.13) (Click for more info)
13. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (23.21) (Click for more info)
14. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) (23.26) (Click for more info)
15. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (23.29) (Click for more info)
16. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (23.44) (Click for more info)
17. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (24.16) (Click for more info)
18. Minoan (2000 BC) (24.18) (Click for more info)
19. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (24.55) (Click for more info)
20. Minoan (2000 BC) (24.64) (Click for more info)

oszkar07
07-12-2019, 07:42 AM
My Update

Scythian + Gaul (5.692)
Scythian + Frank (6.334)
Gaul (8.864)
Frank (11.05)
Scythian (13.0)

firemonkey
07-12-2019, 08:21 AM
23= Celts Vikings(I) Longobards
Ancestry = Vikings(I) Longobards Celts
FTDNA = As Ancestry
Living DNA = Vikings(I) Celts Saxons
My heritage = As Ancestry and FTDNA

talombo
07-13-2019, 02:39 AM
They've added the Philistines samples:

https://i.imgur.com/yxmOIwm.jpg

firemonkey
07-13-2019, 08:30 AM
The snp count of deep dive matches is so low as to make them meaningless?!

whoibe
07-13-2019, 10:21 AM
They've added the Philistines samples:

https://i.imgur.com/yxmOIwm.jpg

So I suppose the Philistines weren't always warring with the Israelites but had the occasional romance sprinkled in?

I had Canaanite/Semitic replaced with Ashkelon (as well as 'Ahskelon' :picard1:) Canaanite

1. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (10.12)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.41)
3. Samaritan (2000 AD) (11.06)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.05)
5. Ashkelon Canaanite (1600 BC) (13.22)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.13)
7. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) (14.67)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.74)
9. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (15.22)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.45)
11. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (15.82)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.02)
13. Ahskelon Canaanite (1200 BC) (16.17)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.01)
15. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (17.96)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (18.34)
17. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (18.66)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (20.36)
19. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (20.92)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (21.14)

Pater Patota
07-13-2019, 10:40 AM
My maps look similar to yours. Can you see any of your Deep Dive results?

This is not the paid version so I can not see an other results.What about your map?Can you share it if you don't mind.

Nassbean
07-13-2019, 10:47 AM
With the new update I still got roman hispania but now the ancient greek component has been replaced with Philistine :

https://i.imgur.com/HOaupYs.png
https://i.imgur.com/96psMvI.png
https://i.imgur.com/3yN3QLk.png
https://i.imgur.com/EZvy0IJ.png

Pater Patota
07-13-2019, 11:04 AM
My maps look similar to yours. Can you see any of your Deep Dive results?

I also get many Jewish and Levantine scores on gedmatch may be that's why our maps are similar.

talombo
07-13-2019, 11:20 AM
So I suppose the Philistines weren't always warring with the Israelites but had the occasional romance sprinkled in?

Maybe, we know of at least one mixed couple (Samson and Delilah)

firemonkey
07-13-2019, 01:32 PM
An example of the deep dive largest segment issue?

89345

firemonkey
07-14-2019, 10:22 AM
My 100 ancient samples- Ancestry DNA upload. I wonder how others with wholly or predominantly British and Irish ancestry compare.

1. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (3.903) - I2097 (Click for more info)
2. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (4.334) - I1767 (Click for more info)
3. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (5.275) - I2981 (Click for more info)
4. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.535) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.536) - I5383 (Click for more info)
6. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (5.726) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
7. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.742) - CL92 (Click for more info)
8. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (5.904) - 84035 (Click for more info)
9. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.043) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
10. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.059) - I2452 (Click for more info)
11. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (6.421) - 97029 (Click for more info)
12. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (6.611) - Unknown (Click for more info)
13. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (6.738) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
14. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.875) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
15. Pict (670 AD) (6.907) - CL83 (Click for more info)
16. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.915) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
17. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (6.983) - ALH_10 (Click for more info)
18. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (7.111) - Rathlin2 (Click for more info)
19. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.305) - AED_249 (Click for more info)
20. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (7.344) - KOV-A2 (Click for more info)
21. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (7.521) - I5367 (Click for more info)
22. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (7.561) - GRS-A1 (Click for more info)
23. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (7.87) - stg021 (Click for more info)
24. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (7.885) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
25. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.889) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
26. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.001) - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info)
27. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.047) - Sigtuna stg021 (Click for more info)
28. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (8.061) - NW_255 (Click for more info)
29. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.228) - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info)
30. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (8.231) - SSG-A4 (Click for more info)
31. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (8.249) - I3875 (Click for more info)
32. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) (8.26) - TSK-A26 (Click for more info)
33. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (8.302) - KNS-A1 (Click for more info)
34. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (8.311) - I2568 (Click for more info)
35. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (8.356) - ALH_1 (Click for more info)
36. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (8.431) - I3255 (Click for more info)
37. Gaelic Child Viking Iceland (935 AD) (8.493) - YGS-B2 (Click for more info)
38. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.522) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
39. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.576) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
40. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.614) - Rise577 (Click for more info)
41. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (8.699) - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info)
42. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (8.846) - I2655 (Click for more info)
43. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (8.999) - I2418 (Click for more info)
44. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (9.001) - Rathlin2B (Click for more info)
45. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (9.193) - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info)
46. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (9.376) - I0112 (Click for more info)
47. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (9.396) - Rise47 (Click for more info)
48. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.551) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
49. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (9.618) - CL146 (Click for more info)
50. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (9.669) - STR_316 (Click for more info)
51. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (9.846) - I2566 (Click for more info)
52. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (9.848) - I5512 (Click for more info)
53. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (9.881) - CL145 (Click for more info)
54. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (10.02) - Shohola (Click for more info)
55. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (10.05) - Hinxton HS1 (Click for more info)
56. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.07) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.14) - SZ9 (Click for more info)
58. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (10.14) - DKS-A1 (Click for more info)
59. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.15) - FSS-A1 (Click for more info)
60. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) (10.26) - Rathlin1 (Click for more info)
61. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.26) - SVK-A1 (Click for more info)
62. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.29) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
63. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (10.29) - SSJ-A2 (Click for more info)
64. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.38) - VDP-A7 (Click for more info)
65. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (10.39) - DA119 (Click for more info)
66. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.41) - SZ22 (Click for more info)
67. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.68) - CL84 (Click for more info)
68. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.78) - 6DRIF-21 (Click for more info)
69. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (10.92) - I5471 (Click for more info)
70. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (10.94) - I12162 (Click for more info)
71. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (11.0) - I2447 (Click for more info)
72. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (11.02) - I5382 (Click for more info)
73. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) (11.08) - Rise150 (Click for more info)
74. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.09) - 6DRIF-22 (Click for more info)
75. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.15) - SZ2 (Click for more info)
76. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (11.15) - 97002 (Click for more info)
77. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (11.18) - I0806 (Click for more info)
78. Viking Iceland (1270 AD) (11.21) - FOV-A1 (Click for more info)
79. Pre-Viking Sweden (500 AD) (11.22) - Rise174 Oxie7 (Click for more info)
80. Ireland Copper Age (1635 BC) (11.3) - Rathlin3 (Click for more info)
81. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (11.36) - SZ16 (Click for more info)
82. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.44) - SZ8 (Click for more info)
83. Bell Beaker Ely England (2165 BC) (11.48) - I2453 (Click for more info)
84. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.49) - SZ7 (Click for more info)
85. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (11.99) - NTR-A2 (Click for more info)
86. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (12.16) - Sigtuna 84001 (Click for more info)
87. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (12.17) - scy009 (Click for more info)
88. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (12.2) - SZ11 (Click for more info)
89. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (12.2) - Rise61 (Click for more info)
90. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (12.54) - I12032 (Click for more info)
91. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (12.62) - BIM_33 (Click for more info)
92. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (12.64) - CL93 (Click for more info)
93. Estonia Iron Age (0 AD) (12.66) - Rise00 (Click for more info)
94. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (12.69) - I5513 (Click for more info)
95. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (13.0) - TGS-A1 (Click for more info)
96. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) (13.07) - I0099 (Click for more info)
97. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (13.22) - SZ42 (Click for more info)
98. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (13.34) - I6679 (Click for more info)
99. Unetice Bohemia (1875 BC) (13.37) - Rise154 (Click for more info)
100. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (13.39) - Hinxton3 HS2 (Click for more info)

Gallop
07-15-2019, 02:56 PM
My sample with 10 examples and with 100

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WkrpMtqorF4/XSnYNRRsYwI/AAAAAAAAA-s/ThwC8ehd-6k_XnBLlOuK3QjUsUZQ0QYzwCLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_main10SAMPLES.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5_-HHdWQ5g/XSnLkki2qSI/AAAAAAAAA-A/lbhaYs1UxHk-A-45x2eerx-Stxsb4YxvACLcBGAs/s1600/timelineCOMPLETAZEUS.jpg

firemonkey
07-15-2019, 11:20 PM
Although the deep dive/timeline part of MTA looks as though it needs improving; I wonder what people think of their ancient samples. There's quite a lot of British in mine which makes sense. The Viking Icelandic is interesting . Poi's scaled checkfit has Iceland as my top non British and Irish match. It's also my top non British and Irish match with the unscaled checkfit .

Pine
07-16-2019, 01:23 AM
I also get many Jewish and Levantine scores on gedmatch may be that's why our maps are similar.

Are you J-M67?

Pater Patota
07-17-2019, 07:00 AM
Are you J-M67?

Well, i don't know my branch but I'm J2.It sounds highly possible, I could be M-67..

Coastal Elite
07-20-2019, 01:55 AM
New PCA feature on MyTrueAncestry

Ancient PCA
https://i.imgur.com/0EuxknS.jpg

Modern PCA
https://i.imgur.com/j3OnEUr.jpg

Jägerstaffel
07-20-2019, 02:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/RmowOgj.png

talombo
07-20-2019, 02:36 AM
https://i.ibb.co/GThjfPH/MTA-Modern-PCA.jpg

Western_French
07-20-2019, 02:39 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89509&d=1563589970

Rędwald
07-20-2019, 02:47 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/DydWWkzw/pcamodern.png

Jägerstaffel
07-20-2019, 02:50 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/DydWWkzw/pcamodern.png

Ours look kinda similar, something I've pointed out before. Maybe we're related.

Rędwald
07-20-2019, 02:57 AM
Ours look kinda similar, something I've pointed out before. Maybe we're related.

Very similar you're a little more eastern than me, but we're pretty close. Maybe we should run our ged-match kits.

Coastal Elite
07-20-2019, 02:58 AM
People should post the Ancient PCA as well

Western_French
07-20-2019, 03:04 AM
Ancient PCA

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89510&d=1563591742

Cumansky
07-20-2019, 03:32 AM
89511
89512
89513

Cumansky
07-20-2019, 03:35 AM
Scythian

Cumansky
07-20-2019, 03:35 AM
Avar

Cumansky
07-20-2019, 03:36 AM
Niggas

Jägerstaffel
07-20-2019, 03:37 AM
People should post the Ancient PCA as well

I'm on the free edition so I guess that's why my stuff is "Hidden"

https://i.imgur.com/EYcGNAi.png

Coastal Elite
07-20-2019, 03:44 AM
I'm on the free edition so I guess that's why my stuff is "Hidden"

https://i.imgur.com/EYcGNAi.png

Yeah, I'm in the same boat buts it's interesting to see nevertheless. They give you a small sampling of ancient populations.

Mortimer
07-20-2019, 03:47 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/DZpvc5kz/mytrueancestryancientpca.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/wMt64JgQ/mytrueancestrymodernpca.jpg

Cumansky
07-20-2019, 03:52 AM
This company not bad.

Rędwald
07-20-2019, 03:55 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Hkd5Y0bR/ancient-pca.png

Celto-fucking-Germanic

Dick
07-20-2019, 04:02 AM
I see they added more tribes


https://i.imgur.com/iyCLb4x.png

Celestia
07-20-2019, 04:35 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89517&d=1563597317

Viking Icelandic + Gaul (6.895)
Celt + Gaul (7.001)
Gaul (7.774)
Viking Icelandic (8.342)
Celt (10.14)

Moje ime
07-20-2019, 07:27 AM
Ancient PCA

https://i.imgur.com/maI0Ge0.jpg

Modern PCA

https://i.imgur.com/9zlewKS.jpg

Distances are weird, Croats close with Moldavians, Bosnians (whatever they added there) close with Bulgarian etc and my result north eastern shifted of Serbian average etc

PaleoEuropean
07-20-2019, 07:34 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Tai3579.jpg

Moje ime
07-20-2019, 07:35 AM
I see they added more tribes


https://i.imgur.com/iyCLb4x.png

You get Gauls as first population now?
For me no changes there.

Impaler
07-20-2019, 08:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/yXcYLkg.png (https://imgur.com/yXcYLkg)

http://i.imgur.com/GRIJTcf.png (https://imgur.com/GRIJTcf)

Dušan
07-20-2019, 09:05 AM
Ancient PCA

https://i.imgur.com/maI0Ge0.jpg

Modern PCA

https://i.imgur.com/9zlewKS.jpg

Distances are weird, Croats close with Moldavians, Bosnians (whatever they added there) close with Bulgarian etc and my result north eastern shifted of Serbian average etc

Yeah, distances are weird.

That hidden result in up left corner of your ancient PCA is Byzantine Roman warrior 605 AD.


My results:

https://i.imgur.com/dUijLC9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oh3RfAL.jpg

Moje ime
07-20-2019, 09:35 AM
Yeah, distances are weird.

That hidden result in up left corner of your ancient PCA is Byzantine Roman warrior 605 AD.


My results:

https://i.imgur.com/dUijLC9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oh3RfAL.jpg

Compared with your eastern shifted result (modern), mine is basically on average spot.

Dušan
07-20-2019, 09:43 AM
Compared with your eastern shifted result (modern), mine is basically on average spot.

I think that Serbian average on this modern PCA is too western-shifted.

Hard to believe that it is closer to Hungarians and Austrians than Slovenians and Croatians are to those two populations.

Moje ime
07-20-2019, 09:46 AM
I think that Serbian average on this modern PCA is too western-shifted.

Hard to believe that it is closer to Hungarians and Austrians than Slovenians and Croatians are to those two populations.

Probably. My result should be west of average.

Moje ime
07-20-2019, 09:48 AM
I think Romanians Bulgarians and Macedonians are too western shifted as well. Weirdest thing is "Bosnian" among them. It looks like Bosniensis result :lol:

Dušan
07-20-2019, 09:51 AM
I think Romanians Bulgarians and Macedonians are too western shifted as well. Weirdest thing is "Bosnian" among them. It looks like Bosniensis result :lol:

Maybe that company used Sinan's (half Gorani) result as a reference to all population of Bosnia-Herzegovina. xD

Moje ime
07-20-2019, 09:53 AM
Maybe that company used Sinan's (half Gorani) result as a reference to all population of Bosnia-Herzegovina. xD
Maybe but then what to think about our results, probably average spot contains of our couple of Serbian results xD

edit: small sample

El_Abominacion
07-20-2019, 11:10 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190720/917a7b0fc37b7a2ac955a91889c360b4.jpg

Interesting to say the least. Matches where I plot on GED calculators, closest to Central Asian groups

Ford
07-20-2019, 11:15 AM
Very strange on the modern PCA plot.

https://i.imgur.com/TmpUHG3.png
https://i.imgur.com/8uFqkQw.png

farke1
07-20-2019, 11:22 AM
These PCA plots are cool. :)

Modern
https://i.imgur.com/1P6xUcz.png

Ancient
https://i.imgur.com/90Cmisb.png

Grace O'Malley
07-20-2019, 11:29 AM
These are mine.

Ancient
http://i65.tinypic.com/5dvygp.jpg

Modern
http://i68.tinypic.com/b97zts.jpg

Vid Flumina
07-20-2019, 12:33 PM
https://i.imgur.com/tRiErMP.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Ox4Mhxu.jpg

Adamm
07-20-2019, 12:54 PM
My ancient:

https://i.imgur.com/e6JNuVI.png

My modern:

https://i.imgur.com/A1Dvg8y.png

Kaspias
07-20-2019, 01:17 PM
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=j9ltf4iqgd&s=pcas
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=j9ltf4iqgd&s=pcam

Rgvgjhvv
07-20-2019, 02:01 PM
(Let me know if these are visible or not)

Modern:

http://i63.tinypic.com/mawayr.png

Ancient:

http://i63.tinypic.com/73c4ef.png

Lemgrant
07-20-2019, 03:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/nFmlBeQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/d2ONkf2.jpg

Lemgrant
07-20-2019, 04:01 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190720/917a7b0fc37b7a2ac955a91889c360b4.jpg

Interesting to say the least. Matches where I plot on GED calculators, closest to Central Asian groups

it is the same with gedmatch k15, they just added more samples to datasheet.

karakartal
07-20-2019, 04:07 PM
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=j9ltf4iqgd&s=pcas
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=j9ltf4iqgd&s=pcam

i can't see. maybe i can see after quoted.

Lucas
07-20-2019, 04:40 PM
it is the same with gedmatch k15, they just added more samples to datasheet.

Can you post your k15 pca and from mta for comparison???

Rgvgjhvv
07-20-2019, 05:16 PM
New results in the Africa map for me:

http://i65.tinypic.com/6jjz2c.png

Videx
07-20-2019, 05:32 PM
https://i.imgur.com/sNBTVPU.png
https://i.imgur.com/KGaFpGL.png

El_Abominacion
07-21-2019, 10:23 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190721/f3ea3155c0cb69d9a6e87eef1e1e18a5.jpgMum’s PCA

noricum
07-21-2019, 10:36 AM
https://s18.directupload.net/images/190721/4rzly6eh.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

https://s18.directupload.net/images/190721/i7c2zg6k.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

https://s18.directupload.net/images/190721/oa6cpj5n.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

https://s18.directupload.net/images/190721/84ygdnwl.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

Lemgrant
07-21-2019, 10:52 AM
Can you post your k15 pca and from mta for comparison???

Eurogenes K15 3D PCA (RStudio)
https://youtu.be/1vwaRPONkYA

https://youtu.be/1vwaRPONkYA

ph2ter
07-21-2019, 11:16 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/snnyqd.png

http://i63.tinypic.com/2vljyjd.png

Lucas
07-21-2019, 11:55 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/snnyqd.png

http://i63.tinypic.com/2vljyjd.png

Ph2ter your modern pca position is similar to k15 pca, what's your opinion?

ph2ter
07-21-2019, 01:56 PM
Ph2ter your modern pca position is similar to k15 pca, what's your opinion?

It is more similar to K15 than to K36. In K36 I am between Czech and East Germany, but in K15 (and in G25) I am between Czech, Slovak, Slovenian and Hungarian.

Lucas
07-21-2019, 05:21 PM
It is more similar to K15 than to K36. In K36 I am between Czech and East Germany, but in K15 (and in G25) I am between Czech, Slovak, Slovenian and Hungarian.

Yes I'm sure their modern stuff is using k15. Not sure about ancient by I guess too.

Impaler
07-21-2019, 09:59 PM
I am Germanic now. :lol::lol:

http://i.imgur.com/zkcXOca.png (https://imgur.com/zkcXOca)

Gallop
07-25-2019, 06:18 PM
MyTrueAncestry PCA

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FUo1lXVrIJM/XTntDuaFmII/AAAAAAAAA-8/zqsUqxIckmIaDJWokakpdVINRtMnh9B9ACLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainYOUancient.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Qm9RTE04We0/XTnunFB-1LI/AAAAAAAAA_I/fRLei8gGd-4eLMEO-nPEFiZgNFGvade_QCLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainYOUmodern.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R5Vruxg-N_A/XTnuyfS1SsI/AAAAAAAAA_M/lI4cexmTd2kfxA4zVtoJ_9yvV7nSl7xiACLcBGAs/s1600/mytrueancestry.com_c_mainYOUXAMPLES.jpg

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (8.765) - I12034 (Click for more info)
2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (9.032) - FN_2 (Click for more info)
3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (9.04) - FN_2 (Click for more info)
4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (9.106) - CL94 (Click for more info)
5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (10.75) - I3313 (Click for more info)
6. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (12.13) - I12209 (Click for more info)
7. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) (12.19) - I4556 (Click for more info)
8. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) (12.63) - I12640 (Click for more info)
9. Iron Age Catalan (440 BC) (12.75) - I12878 (Click for more info)
10. Iron Age Catalan (200 BC) (13.39) - I3320 (Click for more info)
11. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (13.45) - CL57 (Click for more info)
12. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) (13.46) - STR_535 (Click for more info)
13. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (760 AD) (13.46) - I3585 (Click for more info)
14. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (13.94) - SZ28 (Click for more info)
15. Iron Age Catalan (460 BC) (14.14) - I12879 (Click for more info)
16. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (14.25) - I12208 (Click for more info)
17. Celtiberian Northern Spain (280 BC) (14.42) - I3759 (Click for more info)
18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (14.49) - CL23 (Click for more info)
19. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (14.59) - I2649 (Click for more info)
20. Celtiberian Northern Spain (280 BC) (14.59) - I3758 (Click for more info)
21. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (14.61) - SI-40 (Click for more info)
22. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) (14.73) - I3777 (Click for more info)
23. Iron Age Catalan (440 BC) (14.75) - I12410 (Click for more info)
24. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (14.87) - scy305 (Click for more info)
25. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (15.08) - scy192 (Click for more info)
26. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (15.36) - I2515 (Click for more info)
27. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (15.66) - scy311 (Click for more info)
28. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) (15.71) - I2478 (Click for more info)
29. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (16.23) - VAD001 (Click for more info)
30. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (16.42) - I4332 (Click for more info)
31. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (16.42) - I5769 (Click for more info)
32. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) (16.45) - I3982 (Click for more info)
33. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (16.49) - I2644 (Click for more info)
34. Ostrogoth Mix (465 AD) (16.5) - AEH_1 (Click for more info)
35. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (16.58) - I7425 (Click for more info)
36. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) (16.61) - I12641 (Click for more info)
37. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (16.7) - I2514 (Click for more info)
38. Iron Age Catalan (200 BC) (17.01) - I3321 (Click for more info)
39. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (17.02) - SZ45 (Click for more info)
40. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (17.17) - BIM33 (Click for more info)
41. Iron Age Catalan (440 BC) (17.36) - I12877 (Click for more info)
42. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (17.38) - CL47 (Click for more info)
43. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (17.58) - I3981 (Click for more info)
44. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (17.66) - VAD005 (Click for more info)
45. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (17.94) - CL63 (Click for more info)
46. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (18.08) - Rise577 (Click for more info)
47. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) (18.18) - NS3c (Click for more info)
48. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) (18.47) - VO10207 (Click for more info)
49. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (18.56) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
50. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) (18.89) - DA111 (Click for more info)
51. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) (18.96) - I3776 (Click for more info)
52. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (19.38) - DA199 (Click for more info)
53. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (19.58) - 6DRIF-22 (Click for more info)
54. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (19.59) - I12032 (Click for more info)
55. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (19.78) - VAD004 (Click for more info)
56. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (19.79) - I2647 (Click for more info)
57. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) (19.89) - AED_1108 (Click for more info)
58. Central Roman (670 AD) (19.91) - CL36 (Click for more info)
59. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (19.96) - I3874 (Click for more info)
60. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (19.97) - CL102 (Click for more info)
61. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (20.25) - I3582 (Click for more info)
62. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) (20.54) - I3757 (Click for more info)
63. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (20.72) - CL53 (Click for more info)
64. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (20.74) - I12162 (Click for more info)
65. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) (21.04) - I12642 (Click for more info)
66. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) (21.1) - ATP9 (Click for more info)
67. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (21.49) - SZ18 (Click for more info)
68. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (21.51) - I5471 (Click for more info)
69. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (21.51) - I3576 (Click for more info)
70. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (21.6) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
71. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) (21.61) - I1388 (Click for more info)
72. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (21.66) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
73. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (21.79) - I7424 (Click for more info)
74. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (21.86) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
75. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (21.96) - I3581 (Click for more info)
76. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (22.1) - MS10614 (Click for more info)
77. Central Roman (590 AD) (22.29) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
78. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix (410 AD) (22.37) - STR_328 (Click for more info)
79. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (22.4) - NS3b (Click for more info)
80. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (22.46) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
81. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (22.47) - BIM_33 (Click for more info)
82. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (22.82) - I1767 (Click for more info)
83. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (22.9) - I4251 (Click for more info)
84. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (22.91) - I3983 (Click for more info)
85. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (23.13) - NTR-A2 (Click for more info)
86. Unetice Bohemia (1875 BC) (23.16) - Rise154 (Click for more info)
87. Central Roman (590 AD) (23.19) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
88. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (23.46) - GRS-A1 (Click for more info)
89. Central Roman (590 AD) (23.62) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
90. Alemanni Celtic Warrior (605 AD) (23.73) - NS10 (Click for more info)
91. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (23.77) - Rise47 (Click for more info)
92. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (23.83) - I3875 (Click for more info)
93. Neolithic Ireland (3200 BC) (24.06) - Ballynahatty (Click for more info)
94. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (24.14) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
95. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (24.15) - KOV-A2 (Click for more info)
96. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (24.2) - I12031 (Click for more info)
97. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (24.28) - I12163 (Click for more info)
98. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (935 AD) (24.5) - nuf002 (Click for more info)
99. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (24.6) - I3575 (Click for more info)
100. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (24.62) - scy009 (Click for more info)

Vojnik
07-26-2019, 05:39 AM
I like how they keep introducing new tools.

Modern:
https://i.ibb.co/2ZjhS4j/ancestry-plot-2.png (https://imgbb.com/)



Ancient:
https://i.ibb.co/dc146vm/ancestry-plot.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Helen
07-27-2019, 01:53 AM
Ancienthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/cac87523d7487c6453bc68c862cd6c07.jpg
Modernhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/4ec1096fc7ac2e2d790aa213119ddb1c.jpg

Snkves
08-01-2019, 01:45 AM
Deep Dive ancient matches
https://i.imgur.com/s6NIuMD.png
______________________
Archaeogenetic matches

1. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (4.019) - I0112
2. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (4.987) - ALH_1
3. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (5.659) - Unknown
4. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (6.668) - SZ16
5. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (6.921) - CL92
6. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (6.934) - Sigtuna stg021
7. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (7.141) - stg021
8. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (7.274) - I5512
9. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.396) - Hinxton HS3
10. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (7.761) - Sigtuna grt036
11. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) (7.793) - AED_249
12. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (7.916) - Shohola
13. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (8.514) - I2981
14. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (8.688) - I5471
15. Young Longobard Noble (605 AD) (8.722) - NS6
16. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (8.783) - I2452
17. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (9.003) - STR_316
18. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (9.096) - I5382
19. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (9.406) - KOV-A2
20. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) (9.484) - TSK-A26
21. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (9.499) - SZ42
22. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.534) - 3DRIF-16
23. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (9.546) - scy006
24. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (9.599) - I5367
25. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (9.676) - VDP-A7
26. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.753) - SZ15
27. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (9.756) - BIM_33
28. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (9.924) - I2447
29. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.929) - 6DRIF-21
30. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.974) - SZ23
31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.01) - SZ2
32. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (10.13) - I0806
33. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.17) - SZ7
34. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (10.17) - I6679
35. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (10.21) - I2568
36. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.41) - SZ12
37. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (10.42) - VDP-A6
38. Halstatt (775 BC) (10.48) - DA112
39. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (10.51) - I1767
40. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (10.52) - SZ11
41. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (10.59) - I5383
42. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) (10.63) - I0099
43. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (10.69) - AED_106
44. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.87) - SZ38
45. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (11.09) - GRS-A1
46. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.12) - SZ14
47. Frankish Longobard Noble (605 AD) (11.14) - NS12c
48. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (11.15) - Hinxton 4
49. Estonia Iron Age (0 AD) (11.18) - Rise00
50. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (11.2) - I12162
51. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) (11.22) - I6777
52. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.24) - SZ22
53. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (11.28) - Rise61
54. Viking Sweden (935 AD) (11.34) - gtm021
55. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (11.4) - ALH_10
56. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (11.41) - I2566
57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.42) - SZ4
58. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (11.42) - I5513
59. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.43) - SZ9
60. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) (11.47) - Rise139

Maps
Deep Dive Europe
https://i.imgur.com/i7kawI6.png
Archaeological Europe
https://i.imgur.com/HyTJPGX.jpg
Premium Europe
https://i.imgur.com/sPesaBv.jpg
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Closest Ancient Populations
https://i.imgur.com/yX5NHVY.png
Viking + Longobard (3.479)
Longobard + Saxon (4.436)
Longobard (6.668)
Viking (6.934)
Saxon (7.396)

**JC**
08-03-2019, 01:34 AM
Mine and my mothers latest Deep Dive results for Ancestry DNA and 23andme

Me
Ancestry DNA
89949

Mother
Ancestry DNA
89950

Me
23andme
89951

Mother
23andme
89952

Geni
08-03-2019, 08:24 PM
Ancient population

HELLENIC ROMANS-ROMANS- ANCIENT GREEKS
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Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.164)
Hellenic Roman (7.542)
Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (9.416)
Roman (9.418)
Ancient Greek (14.71)
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1. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (7.542)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.418)
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (10.34)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.54)
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (10.77)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.27)
7. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (14.5)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.71)
9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (14.85)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.94)
11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (15.57)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.57)
13. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) (15.72)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.18)
15. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (16.21)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.32)
17. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (16.94)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.29)
19. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (17.6)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.78)
__________________________________
89984

Geni
08-07-2019, 08:23 PM
Ancient population

HELLENIC ROMANS-ROMANS- ANCIENT GREEKS
__________________________________________________
Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.164)
Hellenic Roman (7.542)
Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (9.416)
Roman (9.418)
Ancient Greek (14.71)
_________________________________________________
1. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (7.542)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.418)
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (10.34)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.54)
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (10.77)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.27)
7. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (14.5)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.71)
9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (14.85)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.94)
11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (15.57)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.57)
13. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) (15.72)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.18)
15. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (16.21)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.32)
17. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (16.94)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.29)
19. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (17.6)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (17.78)
__________________________________
89984

Dick see you ..we are illyrians ,not from Caucase...:clap

Mehmet Udegey
08-07-2019, 08:27 PM
boring bullshit

Snkves
08-10-2019, 03:12 PM
Apparently German Bell Beakers are closest to Modern Swedish people.

https://i.imgur.com/t6XAcqM.png

Snkves
08-10-2019, 04:03 PM
It gets quite interesting on the Caesar level when you can see which modern population is closest to each ancient sample.

https://i.imgur.com/cvxIZcC.png

CommonSense
08-10-2019, 05:28 PM
I was 'on vacation' when the PCAs were added as a feature. Here are mine:

https://i.imgur.com/QDQNRio.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tUrRzm5.jpg

MercifulServant
08-10-2019, 05:31 PM
Ancient Populations
Scythian + Gaul (11.83)
Scythian (13.42)
Scythian + Thuringii (13.74)
Gaul (15.98)
Thuringii (19.24)

Modern Populations
1. Bosnian (8.120)
2. Serbian (9.717)
3. Moldavian (9.931)
4. Romanian (10.19)

MercifulServant
08-10-2019, 05:33 PM
I was 'on vacation' when the PCAs were added as a feature. Here are mine:

https://i.imgur.com/QDQNRio.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tUrRzm5.jpg

https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=i6okmca3ps&s=pcam

karakartal
08-10-2019, 07:06 PM
If you have mixed ancestry, they give funny guess. I curiosity about Slavic Italian's results.

Coastal Elite
08-10-2019, 09:15 PM
Full ancient results and deep dive

1. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (5.269) - CL63 (Click for more info)
2. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (7.082) - SZ45 (Click for more info)
3. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (7.87) - CL47 (Click for more info)
4. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.325) - scy311 (Click for more info)
5. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (8.484) - I12163 (Click for more info)
6. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (8.56) - CL53 (Click for more info)
7. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (8.731) - CL102 (Click for more info)
8. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.753) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
9. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (8.955) - SZ18 (Click for more info)
10. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) (9.386) - AED_1108 (Click for more info)
11. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (9.577) - DA199 (Click for more info)
12. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.667) - I12032 (Click for more info)
13. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.6) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
14. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (10.87) - CL57 (Click for more info)
15. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (11.18) - SZ42 (Click for more info)
16. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (11.24) - I12031 (Click for more info)
17. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (11.28) - BIM_33 (Click for more info)
18. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (11.63) - I12162 (Click for more info)
19. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (12.18) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
20. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (12.47) - SZ5 (Click for more info)
21. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (12.65) - scy301 (Click for more info)
22. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (12.83) - SZ24 (Click for more info)
23. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (13.3) - I5471 (Click for more info)
24. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (13.33) - 6DRIF-21 (Click for more info)
25. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.44) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
26. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (13.46) - I1767 (Click for more info)
27. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (13.97) - Rise577 (Click for more info)
28. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (14.24) - CL94 (Click for more info)
29. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (14.73) - I3313 (Click for more info)
30. Young Longobard Noble (605 AD) (14.75) - NS6 (Click for more info)
31. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (14.75) - 6DRIF-22 (Click for more info)
32. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (14.77) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
33. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (14.97) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
34. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (15.13) - Shohola (Click for more info)
35. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (15.13) - SZ22 (Click for more info)
36. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (15.26) - SZ11 (Click for more info)
37. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (15.61) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
38. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (15.78) - I5512 (Click for more info)
39. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (15.83) - I5383 (Click for more info)
40. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (15.88) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
41. Unetice Bohemia (1875 BC) (15.95) - Rise154 (Click for more info)
42. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (15.96) - I6679 (Click for more info)
43. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) (15.96) - I4070 (Click for more info)
44. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (15.99) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
45. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (16.12) - scy006 (Click for more info)
46. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (16.3) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
47. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (16.35) - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info)
48. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (16.35) - I4251 (Click for more info)
49. Halstatt (775 BC) (16.4) - DA112 (Click for more info)
50. Bell Beaker Poland (2400 BC) (16.45) - I4353 (Click for more info)
51. Bell Beaker England (2165 BC) (16.47) - I2453 (Click for more info)
52. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (16.56) - I0806 (Click for more info)
53. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (16.56) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
54. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (16.58) - STR_316 (Click for more info)
55. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (16.61) - CL92 (Click for more info)
56. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (16.65) - I2981 (Click for more info)
57. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (16.88) - I4332 (Click for more info)
58. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (16.88) - I5769 (Click for more info)
59. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (16.94) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
60. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (17.1) - I2452 (Click for more info)

https://i.imgur.com/4ugqiY9.png

Pine
08-11-2019, 12:51 AM
I uploaded my kit again - utterly different Deep Dive matches

Gaditanian
08-11-2019, 03:13 PM
Illyrian + Carthaginian (7.773)
Roman Hispania (7.869)
Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (8.69)
Illyrian (13.55)
Carthaginian (13.6)

1. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) (7.869) (Click for more info)
2. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (10.1) (Click for more info)
3. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (760 AD) (10.97) (Click for more info)
4. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (11.0) (Click for more info)
5. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (11.48) (Click for more info)
6. Ostrogoth Mix (465 AD) (12.62) (Click for more info)
7. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (13.18) (Click for more info)
8. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (13.22) (Click for more info)
9. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (13.31) (Click for more info)
10. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (13.55) (Click for more info)
11. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (13.6) (Click for more info)
12. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (13.63) (Click for more info)
13. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (13.69) (Click for more info)
14. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (13.79) (Click for more info)
15. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (13.83) (Click for more info)
16. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) (14.24) (Click for more info)
17. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (14.49) (Click for more info)
18. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) (14.62) (Click for more info)
19. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (16.22) (Click for more info)
20. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (16.66) (Click for more info)

Seya
08-11-2019, 03:35 PM
every time i get something else in here....
https://i.imgur.com/fk8F9st.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WaQ3Rds.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SWAwHIc.jpg

IrisSelene
08-11-2019, 08:49 PM
Idk about these things imma have to read about it lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190811/31ea3e892d54ce68b3d9cb605a5088ca.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190811/5633e53dd177e5d0f4809bac1364dacb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190811/773e356b92206d7b9f9ecc9561cd6c29.jpg

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

Dick
08-11-2019, 08:52 PM
Idk about these things imma have to read about it lol
Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

you get the same as other South Slavs

IrisSelene
08-11-2019, 08:52 PM
you get the same as other South SlavsWhat's exactly a South slav?

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

Dick
08-11-2019, 09:10 PM
What's exactly a South slav?

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

Goths.


new Goth samples from Ukraine and who they are most similar to;



UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 HUN_MA_Szolad
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Hungarian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Montenegrin
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Serbian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 German
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Austrian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_Averaged
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Austrian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Austrian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Montenegrin
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Montenegrin_Averaged
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Croatian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Bosnian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Romanian
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Austrian_Averaged
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Bosnian Bosnian_13
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37 Bulgarian BulgarianE2

Benyzero
08-12-2019, 11:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Qb3TcaS.png

Modern population

1. Austrian (5.448)
2. Hungarian (5.637)
3. East_German (7.261)
4. Croatian (8.202)

Cumansky
08-13-2019, 04:46 AM
Mother
90313
90314

Father
90315
90316

Me
90319
90318

Cumansky
08-13-2019, 04:49 AM
Tough update

El_Abominacion
08-15-2019, 04:10 PM
Where I plot with ancestryDNA data. Massive distanceshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190815/20ea6234b3663da911b36abee6d66ad0.jpg

Bakha
08-15-2019, 04:48 PM
This is some quality bullshit right here
https://i.ibb.co/DCn6xd1/44-CBCD8-F-3109-4089-93-CB-8-D80756169-AF.jpg (https://ibb.co/jMFxct8)

Bakha
08-15-2019, 04:50 PM
What is seleucid? Scythians and cimmerians sound credible according to my ancestry and what is seleucid sample? Turkic?

Rgvgjhvv
08-15-2019, 04:57 PM
What is seleucid? Scythians and cimmerians sound credible according to my ancestry and what is seleucid sample? Turkic?

The Seleucid Empire was a Hellenistic state ruled by the Seleucid dynasty which existed from 312 BC to 63 BC; Seleucus I Nicator (Greek) founded it following the division of the Macedonian Empire vastly expanded by Alexander the Great.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Diadochi_EN.png/1920px-Diadochi_EN.png

Bakha
08-15-2019, 04:59 PM
The Seleucid Empire was a Hellenistic state ruled by the Seleucid dynasty which existed from 312 BC to 63 BC; Seleucus I Nicator (Greek) founded it following the division of the Macedonian Empire vastly expanded by Alexander the Great.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Diadochi_EN.png/1920px-Diadochi_EN.png

Still we dont know what is ancestry of the seleucid sample. He might be persian or even turkic central asian slave of the seleucid empire

karakartal
08-15-2019, 05:09 PM
Still we dont know what is ancestry of the seleucid sample. He might be persian or even turkic central asian slave of the seleucid empire

you are so mixed ancestry like my father. could you please send all stuff about mytrueancestry site? i upload 10 minute later.

Rgvgjhvv
08-15-2019, 05:50 PM
Still we dont know what is ancestry of the seleucid sample. He might be persian or even turkic central asian slave of the seleucid empire

Probably super mixed so in that case, it's a misleading title. I get it too in my results, if that means anything. I think it just makes it more confusing and less clear. But they might have a PCA plot reference point on the site too.

Pine
08-15-2019, 07:20 PM
Probably super mixed so in that case, it's a misleading title. I get it too in my results, if that means anything. I think it just makes it more confusing and less clear. But they might have a PCA plot reference point on the site too.

Davidski analyzed 2 of the samples mytrueancestry.com uses : http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/10/a-closer-look-at-couple-of-ancients.html

Vyacheslav
08-20-2019, 07:07 AM
There are still sets from the Caesar set, I can make a comparison for everyone for a small fee

vinb94
08-20-2019, 10:10 PM
Hello Everyone,

My known ancestry is Gheg Albanian, these results have surprised me. Do many Albanians score so close to Hellenic Greek and modern Greeks?

These are my results

Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.048)
Hellenic Roman (7.846)
Roman (8.932)
Ancient Greek + Roman (9.298)
Ancient Greek (14.62



1. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (7.846) - SZ40 (Click for more info)
2. Central Roman (590 AD) (8.932) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (10.92) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
4. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.18) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
5. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (11.56) - CL121 (Click for more info)
6. Central Roman (670 AD) (12.34) - CL36 (Click for more info)
7. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (13.57) - SZ19 (Click for more info)
8. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (14.62) - I9033 (Click for more info)
9. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (15.07)


Modern

1. Greek_Thessaly (5.412)
2. Italian_Abruzzo (6.718)
3. Central_Greek (7.037)
4. Greek (7.820)
5. East_Sicilian (7.876)

firemonkey
08-23-2019, 12:18 PM
My ancient populations have changed. With 23andMe,Ancestry,FTDNA and My heritage Longobard has been replaced by Viking.

With FTDNA ancient samples top 20 is now:

1. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) (3.769) - I2859 (Click for more info)
2. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (3.926) - I2097 (Click for more info)
3. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (4.311) - I1767 (Click for more info)
4. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) (5.205) - I2860 (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (5.368) - I2981 (Click for more info)
6. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.569) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
7. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.578) - I5383 (Click for more info)
8. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (5.591) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
9. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.769) - CL92 (Click for more info)
10. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (5.912) - 84035 (Click for more info)
11. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.155) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
12. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.19) - I2452 (Click for more info)
13. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (6.597) - 97029 (Click for more info)
14. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (6.656) - Unknown (Click for more info)
15. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (6.714) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
16. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.942) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
17. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (6.969) - SSG-A2 (Click for more info)
18. Pict (670 AD) (7.017) - CL83 (Click for more info)
19. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.116) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
20. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (7.138) - KOV-A2 (Click for more info)

Snkves
08-23-2019, 10:29 PM
New Update: "NEW global comparison at Deep Dive and per Sample match!"

This is how it looks like now.

https://i.imgur.com/ffTwpCV.png

malka
08-23-2019, 11:39 PM
Dad's (Ashkenazi) -
90655
90656

Pine
08-24-2019, 02:22 AM
Dad's (Ashkenazi) -
90655
90656

Do you have Deep Dive matches for him? Though, you should pay for G25 coordinates ahead of that if you're only making one more purchase.

Rędwald
08-24-2019, 02:44 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/XJFN3pR0/11.png

https://i.postimg.cc/GtCLpbRT/112.png

What Rome?

malka
08-24-2019, 03:18 AM
Do you have Deep Dive matches for him? Though, you should pay for G25 coordinates ahead of that if you're only making one more purchase.

90657
90658

Where do I get G25 coordinates?

Pine
08-24-2019, 03:28 AM
90657
90658

Where do I get G25 coordinates?

Are those the only matches he gets or the only ones your account level currently has access to? MyTrueAncestry sucks at updating their Deep Dive matches. Reupload the kit to see more matches.

G25: http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-powerful-global-25-now-available.html

Ethnogene is also worth a try, though much about its accuracy and methods is highly debated.

malka
08-24-2019, 03:47 AM
Are those the only matches he gets or the only ones your account level currently has access to? MyTrueAncestry sucks at updating their Deep Dive matches. Reupload the kit to see more matches.

G25: http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-powerful-global-25-now-available.html

Ethnogene is also worth a try, though much about its accuracy and methods is highly debated.

Thank you! Waiting on G25 results for my dad now. Did you find Ethnogene's breakdown more accurate than Homedna? I'm willing to try anything that's better than that lol.
Yeah, those are the only matches he has right now. I'll try reuploading and see if more comes up

Pine
08-24-2019, 03:53 AM
Thank you! Waiting on G25 results for my dad now. Did you find Ethnogene's breakdown more accurate than Homedna? I'm willing to try anything that's better than that lol.
Yeah, those are the only matches he has right now. I'll try reuploading and see if more comes up

Yes, Ethnogene is more accurate than Homedna. For some people, Ethnogene ends up being the most accurate. For Jews, it gives odd results and it's hard to interpret their accuracy.

Your dad should have a lot more Deep Dive results. As for G25, the results themselves aren't that interesting, but rather the stuff you can do with the coordinates.

jingorex
08-24-2019, 04:05 AM
I AM TOTALLY AFRICAN!

https://i.postimg.cc/J4Bv02m3/dna-genetic-ancient.png

malka
08-24-2019, 04:26 AM
Yes, Ethnogene is more accurate than Homedna. For some people, Ethnogene ends up being the most accurate. For Jews, it gives odd results and it's hard to interpret their accuracy.

Your dad should have a lot more Deep Dive results. As for G25, the results themselves aren't that interesting, but rather the stuff you can do with the coordinates.

How many deep dive matches do you have? Only one more match after reuploading:
https://i.imgur.com/XtLgEaN.png

talombo
08-24-2019, 04:51 AM
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 8.417 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

2. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 8.781 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 11.44 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

4. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 11.74 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 13.02 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 13.16 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

7. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) ..... 13.35 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 13.82 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 14.66 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

10. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.97 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users

11. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 15.81 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

12. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 16.11 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

13. Ashkelon Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 16.14 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 16.53 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

15. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.06 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users

16. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 17.11 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

17. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 17.29 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

18. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.3 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users

19. Samaritan (2000 AD) ..... 17.75 (Click for more info)
Top
8
% match vs all users

20. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 17.88 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users

21. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 18.15 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

22. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 18.17 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

23. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.21 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users

24. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 18.29 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

25. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 18.98 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users

26. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 19.03 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users

27. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 19.12 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

28. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.19 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users

29. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.69 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

30. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 20.07 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users

31. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 20.58 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

32. Ahskelon Canaanite (1570 BC) ..... 20.62 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

33. Canaanite (1650 BC) ..... 21.47 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

34. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 21.69 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users

35. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 21.7 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users

36. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.93 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

37. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 22.01 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

38. Ahskelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 22.2 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users

39. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 22.29 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users

40. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 22.36 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

Pine
08-24-2019, 06:20 AM
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 8.417 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

2. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 8.781 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 11.44 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

4. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 11.74 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 13.02 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 13.16 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

7. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) ..... 13.35 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 13.82 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 14.66 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

10. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.97 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users

11. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 15.81 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

12. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 16.11 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

13. Ashkelon Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 16.14 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 16.53 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

15. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.06 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users

16. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 17.11 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

17. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 17.29 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

18. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.3 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users

19. Samaritan (2000 AD) ..... 17.75 (Click for more info)
Top
8
% match vs all users

20. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 17.88 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users

21. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 18.15 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

22. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 18.17 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

23. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.21 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users

24. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 18.29 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

25. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 18.98 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users

26. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 19.03 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users

27. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 19.12 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

28. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.19 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users

29. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.69 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

30. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 20.07 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users

31. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 20.58 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

32. Ahskelon Canaanite (1570 BC) ..... 20.62 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

33. Canaanite (1650 BC) ..... 21.47 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

34. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 21.69 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users

35. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 21.7 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users

36. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.93 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

37. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 22.01 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

38. Ahskelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 22.2 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users

39. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 22.29 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users

40. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 22.36 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users



How many deep dive matches do you have? Only one more match after reuploading:
https://i.imgur.com/XtLgEaN.png

Talombo, what do you get for Deep Dive?

I get this:




Minoan
2000 BC
I9005
Total cM=16.86
Largest segment=14.7 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is 43% closer than other matching users

Chr. 1

14.7 cM






Chr. 5

2.16 cM





Minoan
2000 BC
I0071
Total cM=15.89
Largest segment=8.44 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 44) - Your raw DNA is 63% closer than other matching users

Chr. 2

8.44 cM






Chr. 17

3.68 cM






Chr. 22

3.76 cM





Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7499
Total cM=12.63
Largest segment=7.47 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 42) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 3

5.16 cM






Chr. 8

7.47 cM





Ancient Greek Empuries
275 BC
I8215
Total cM=10.73
Largest segment=6.29 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 33) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 8

6.29 cM






Chr. 19

4.44 cM





Mycenaean
1350 BC
I9006
Total cM=9.59
Largest segment=4.81 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 13) - Your raw DNA is 62% closer than other matching users

Chr. 10

2.62 cM






Chr. 16

2.15 cM






Chr. 17

4.81 cM





Central Roman / Mixed
590 AD
SZ19
Total cM=4.57
Largest segment=4.57 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 39% closer than other matching users

Chr. 12

4.57 cM





Ashkelon Canaanite
1250 BC
ASH087_ASH_IA2
Total cM=4.44
Largest segment=4.44 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 7) - Your raw DNA is 80% closer than other matching users

Chr. 14

4.44 cM





Hellenic Roman / Cretan
670 AD
CL38
Total cM=3.81
Largest segment=3.81 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 22% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

3.81 cM





Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese
670 AD
CL30
Total cM=3.12
Largest segment=3.12 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 6% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

3.12 cM





Ashkelon Philistine
1150 BC
ASH068_ASH_IA1
Total cM=3.03
Largest segment=3.03 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 8) - Your raw DNA is 27% closer than other matching users

Chr. 21

3.03 cM





Minoan
2000 BC
I0070
Total cM=2.24
Largest segment=2.24 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is 59% closer than other matching users

Chr. 1

2.24 cM





Mycenaean
1350 BC
I9041
Total cM=1.73
Largest segment=1.73 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is 14% closer than other matching users

talombo
08-24-2019, 08:04 AM
Talombo, what do you get for Deep Dive?


I'm just a knight so most of it is hidden :(

https://imgur.com/ZaTV3re

**JC**
08-24-2019, 09:44 AM
Latest update
Your closest Ancient populations
Visigoth, Saxon
Visigoths Saxons Franks

Visigoth + Saxon (3.073)
Saxon + Frank (3.367)
Frank (5.83)
Saxon (6.804)
Visigoth (7.0)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 5.116 - I5471
Top 99 % match vs all users

2. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) ..... 5.387 - TSK-A26
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 5.83 - SZ23
Top 93 % match vs all users

4. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 5.912 - ALH_1
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 6.405 - CL92
Top 91% match vs all users

6. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) ..... 6.63 - KOV-A2
Top 96% match vs all users

7. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) ..... 6.804 - Hinxton HS3
Top 97% match vs all users

8. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 6.99 - I0112
Top 98% match vs all users

9. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 7.0 - I12162
Top 91% match vs all users

10. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 7.146 - BIM_33
Top 97 % match vs all users

11. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 7.169 - I3875
Top 93% match vs all users

12. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 7.355 - Rise577
Top 91% match vs all users

13. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 7.575 - Unknown
Top 89% match vs all users

14. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 7.938 - I1767
Top 74% match vs all users

15. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.984 - GRS-A1
Top 96 % match vs all users

16. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 8.049 - I2568
Top 84% match vs all users

17. Young Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 8.099 - NS6
Top 81% match vs all users

18. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.169 - 3DRIF-16
Top 86% match vs all users

19. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.225 - Shohola
Top 86% match vs all users

20. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.297 - SZ14
Top 92% match vs all users

21. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 8.356 - I8206
Top 97% match vs all users

22. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.587 - SZ12
Top 85% match vs all users

23. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 8.635 - I2860
Top 76% match vs all users

24. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.735 - SZ15
Top 74% match vs all users

25. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 8.758 - I5383
Top 80% match vs all users

26. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 8.793 - I2981
Top 75% match vs all users

27. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.817 - ORE-A1
Top 82% match vs all users

28. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 8.872 - I2859
Top 80% match vs all users

29. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.05 - SZ38
Top 72% match vs all users

30. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 9.162 - Sigtuna stg021
Top 86% match vs all users

31. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 9.179 - I2452
Top 76% match vs all users

32. Alemanni Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 9.197 - NS1
Top 84% match vs all users

33. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.224 - I12032
Top 83% match vs all users

34. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.241 - GTE-A1
Top 78% match vs all users

35. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 9.241 - stg021
Top 85% match vs all users

36. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) ..... 9.26 - SZ16
Top 86% match vs all users

37. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) ..... 9.347 - Rise61
Top 91% match vs all users

38. Celtic Briton (0 AD) ..... 9.347 - Hinxton 4
Top 78% match vs all users

39. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 9.679 - AED_249
Top 89% match vs all users

40. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 9.82 - scy006
Top 94% match vs all users

41. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.861 - 6DRIF-22
Top 86% match vs all users

42. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.896 - 6DRIF-21
Top 79% match vs all users

43. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.907 - SSG-A2
Top 71% match vs all users

44. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 9.945 - I2097
Top 77% match vs all users

45. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (400 AD) ..... 9.959 - MJ19
Top 96% match vs all users

46. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 9.982 - I5512
Top 84% match vs all users

47. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) ..... 10.02 - I4251
Top 95% match vs all users

48. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) ..... 10.13 - STR_316
Top 83% match vs all users

49. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 10.22 - VDP-A6
Top 72% match vs all users

50. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.33 - SZ7
Top 83% match vs all users

51. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.43 - SZ24
Top 92% match vs all users

52. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.47 - SZ42
Top 79% match vs all users

53. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.65 - SZ22
Top 88% match vs all users

54. Ostrogoth Nordic (520 AD) ..... 10.66 - STR_220
Top 89% match vs all users

55. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 10.76 - 6DRIF-18
Top 72% match vs all users

56. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 10.93 - CL84
Top 81% match vs all users

57. Halstatt (775 BC) ..... 11.06 - DA112
Top 96% match vs all users

58. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.1 - SZ11
Top 77% match vs all users

59. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) ..... 11.29 - DA119
Top 85% match vs all users

60. Pict (670 AD) ..... 11.4 - CL83
Top 71% match vs all users

61. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.4 - SSJ-A2
Top 82% match vs all users

62. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 11.47 - I5367
Top 74% match vs all users

63. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 11.49 - Sigtuna grt036
Top 95% match vs all users

64. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 11.53 - MJ37
Top 97% match vs all users

65. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 11.76 - CL102
Top 84% match vs all users

66. Frankish Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 11.77 - NS12c
Top 84% match vs all users

67. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 11.82 - 84035
Top 75% match vs all users

68. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 11.86 - I5382
Top 76% match vs all users

69. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.91 - KNS-A1
Top 76% match vs all users

70. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) ..... 11.98 - I0806
Top 81% match vs all users

71. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 12.06 - ALH_10
Top 74% match vs all users

72. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 12.1 - SZ9
Top 74% match vs all users

73. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 12.11 - I2447
Top 74% match vs all users

74. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 12.13 - I2566
Top 77% match vs all users

75. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 12.13 - Hinxton 1
Top 69% match vs all users

76. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 12.19 - 6DRIF-3
Top 65% match vs all users

77. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.19 - 97029
Top 76% match vs all users

78. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) ..... 12.31 - I0099
Top 78% match vs all users

79. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 12.4 - 6DRIF-23
Top 70% match vs all users

80. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 12.41 - I3255
Top 65% match vs all users

81. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 12.42 - SZ4
Top 72% match vs all users

82. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 12.5 - SZ8
Top 89% match vs all users

83. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 12.58 - Rathlin2
Top 72% match vs all users

84. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.62 - VDP-A7
Top 73% match vs all users

85. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 12.73 - BIM33
Top 97% match vs all users

86. Iron Age Melton England (85 BC) ..... 12.78 - M1489
Top 80% match vs all users

87. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 13.09 - CL146
Top 71% match vs all users

88. Viking Sweden (935 AD) ..... 13.25 - gtm021
Top 87% match vs all users

89. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) ..... 13.32 - I6679
Top 72% match vs all users

90. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 13.34 - CL93
Top 76% match vs all users

91. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 13.47 - SZ2
Top 80% match vs all users

92. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 13.49 - NW_255
Top 67% match vs all users

93. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) ..... 13.54 - I2655
Top 71% match vs all users

94. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) ..... 13.56 - Rise47
Top 76% match vs all users

95. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 13.64 - I12163
Top 70% match vs all users

96. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 13.7 - SZ5
Top 81% match vs all users

97. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 13.79 - I2418
Top 68% match vs all users

98. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) ..... 13.85 - Rise150
Top 68% match vs all users

99. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) ..... 13.89 - Rathlin1
Top 72% match vs all users

100. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 13.92 - DKS-A1
Top 78% match vs all users

Deep Dive results

Czech Velke Prilepy
2050 BC
Rise577
Total cM=13.44
Largest segment=7.5 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 42) -
Your raw DNA is
76
% closer than other matching users

**JC**
08-24-2019, 09:57 AM
Deep Dive continued

Bell Beaker Germany
2500 BC
I0112
Total cM=26.49
Largest segment=6.55 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 43) - Your raw DNA is
48% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna grt036
Total cM=4.6
Largest segment=4.6 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
17% closer than other matching users

Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=4.49
Largest segment=4.49 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is
28% closer than other matching users

Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=2.89
Largest segment=2.89 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25) - Your raw DNA is
41% closer than other matching users

Gaulic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-22
Total cM=2.09
Largest segment=2.09 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is
23% closer than other matching users

malka
08-24-2019, 12:54 PM
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 8.417 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

2. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 8.781 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 11.44 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

4. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 11.74 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 13.02 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 13.16 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

7. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) ..... 13.35 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 13.82 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 14.66 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

10. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.97 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users

11. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 15.81 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

12. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 16.11 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

13. Ashkelon Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 16.14 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 16.53 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

15. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.06 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users

16. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 17.11 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

17. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 17.29 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

18. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.3 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users

19. Samaritan (2000 AD) ..... 17.75 (Click for more info)
Top
8
% match vs all users

20. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 17.88 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users

21. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 18.15 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

22. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 18.17 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

23. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.21 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users

24. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 18.29 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

25. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 18.98 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users

26. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 19.03 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users

27. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 19.12 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

28. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.19 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users

29. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.69 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

30. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 20.07 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users

31. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 20.58 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

32. Ahskelon Canaanite (1570 BC) ..... 20.62 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

33. Canaanite (1650 BC) ..... 21.47 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

34. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 21.69 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users

35. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 21.7 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users

36. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.93 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

37. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 22.01 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users

38. Ahskelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 22.2 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users

39. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 22.29 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users

40. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 22.36 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


We have almost the same Archaeo matches! Are you a Turkish Sephardi?


Talombo, what do you get for Deep Dive?

I get this:




Oh yeah, you do get more. Are you full Ashkenazi?
I got my dad's G25 coordinates but can't get them to work in the nMonte program.
Results:

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Malka_scaled,0.102441,0.13405,-0.004903,-0.049419,0.011079,-0.017012,-0.004935,0.001846,0.003886,0.014032,0.002761,3e-04,-0.002676,-0.003578,-0.004614,0.001193,0.001695,0.00228,0.004399,-0.002751,-0.00287,-0.009398,-0.004437,0.002289,0.00012

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Malka,0.009,0.0132,-0.0013,-0.0153,0.0036,-0.0061,-0.0021,0.0008,0.0019,0.0077,0.0017,0.0002,-0.0018,-0.0026,-0.0034,0.0009,0.0013,0.0018,0.0035,-0.0022,-0.0023,-0.0076,-0.0036,0.0019,0.0001

Target: Malka_scaled
Distance: 1.9228% / 0.01922759
Aggregated
57.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
24.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.8 Levant_PPNB
4.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
2.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.8 Han

willbaska
08-24-2019, 03:10 PM
90668

SUPREEEEEME
08-24-2019, 03:19 PM
Your closest Ancient populations...
Seleucid + Roman (7.556)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (8.507)
Hellenic Roman (10.67)
Roman (11.82)
Seleucid (14.03)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.67

2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 11.82

3. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 12.2

4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 12.91

5. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 13.13

6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 13.9

7. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 14.03

8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 14.23

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 14.77

10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 15.41

11. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.79

12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 16.08

13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 16.4

14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 16.58

15. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 17.01

16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 17.07

17. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 17.14

18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 18.18

19. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 18.59

20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account ..... 19.3

Deep Dive:
Only one is available. The rest require an upgrade.

Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese
670 AD
Total cM=5.25
Largest segment=5.25 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19)

I share 7 segments with one of them, but unfortunately I can't see who it is.

Pine
08-24-2019, 03:26 PM
We have almost the same Archaeo matches! Are you a Turkish Sephardi?



Oh yeah, you do get more. Are you full Ashkenazi?
I got my dad's G25 coordinates but can't get them to work in the nMonte program.
Results:

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
,0.102441,0.13405,-0.004903,-0.049419,0.011079,-0.017012,-0.004935,0.001846,0.003886,0.014032,0.002761,3e-04,-0.002676,-0.003578,-0.004614,0.001193,0.001695,0.00228,0.004399,-0.002751,-0.00287,-0.009398,-0.004437,0.002289,0.00012

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
,0.009,0.0132,-0.0013,-0.0153,0.0036,-0.0061,-0.0021,0.0008,0.0019,0.0077,0.0017,0.0002,-0.0018,-0.0026,-0.0034,0.0009,0.0013,0.0018,0.0035,-0.0022,-0.0023,-0.0076,-0.0036,0.0019,0.0001

Target:
Distance: 1.9228% / 0.01922759
Aggregated
57.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
24.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.8 Levant_PPNB
4.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
2.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.8 Han

I am fully Ashkenazi. And edit your name from the G25 coordinates, stupid.

Have you used R before?

Either way, the results you'll get from R if you follow the instructions in the email will be the same results you pasted. The use from those coordinates is that you now get to create your own calculators and use G25 calculators made by others. I ran your dad's coordinates through some simple Jewish calculators I made. The reason it won't work is because you have spaces in the top line of the scaled coordinates for some reason: i.e "PC1 2" , while it should be "PC12"; same goes for "PC2 2".

[1] "distance%=1.6572"

MalkaDad_scaled

AJ_average_scaled,85.2
Romaniote_Jew,9.6
Sephardic_Jew,4.8
Dai,0.4

My modification of another's calculator:

[1] "distance%=1.7836"

MalkaDad_scaled

Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,32
Anatolia_Isparta_EBA,15
ITA_Collegno_MA,9.8
CZE_Early_Slav,9.6
Levant_JOR_EBA,8.2
IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA,7.8
Levant_Canaanite_MBA,6
Mozabite,5.4
IRN_Hasanlu_IA,4.6
Malaysia_Historical,1.6

No, your dad isn't only 1/7th Judean. When interpreting this calculator, you need to be aware of the changing dynamics of the Levant. Your father comes out roughly half/a bit over half Judean. This is because all of CZE and ITA counts towards European input, while some of Empuries and arguably a little bit of Mozabite counts towards Judean. The source of Malyasia is debatable and the other categories all count toward Judean. What I'm saying is debatable, but a large portion counts toward Judean either way.


And you shall say; So said the Lord God to Jerusalem; Your dwelling place and your birth place are from the land of the Canaanites; your father was the Amorite, and your mother a Hittite.
-Ezekiel 16:3

It's amazing how the Biblical narrative reflects Bronze Age migrations into the Levant.
Here are useful links(make sure to use the right coordinates in each):

http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html
http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators_unscaled.html
http://185.144.156.77:3000/

You'll find a lot of threads on this forum and others with various G25 calculators and related PCAs. And the AJ reference I used is different than the one normally used. I used the average of the 471 academic Ashkenazim.

Adamm
08-24-2019, 03:35 PM
New update:

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Guanche Canary Islands (800 AD) ..... 5.691 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) ..... 14.53 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.99 (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users

4. Guanche Canary Islands (630 AD) ..... 17.58 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Guanche Canary Islands (1090 AD) ..... 18.0 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 18.02 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users

7. Ahskelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 18.64 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 20.22 (Click for more info)
Top 90% match vs all users

9. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 20.8 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) ..... 20.96 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

11. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) ..... 22.69 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

12. Guanche Canary Islands (960 AD) ..... 22.86 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

13. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 23.13 (Click for more info)
Top 96% match vs all users

14. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 23.21 (Click for more info)
Top 91% match vs all users

15. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 23.26 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users

16. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 23.29 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users

17. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 23.44 (Click for more info)
Top 82% match vs all users

18. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 24.16 (Click for more info)
Top 82% match vs all users

19. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 24.18 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users

20. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 24.55 (Click for more info)
Top 83% match vs all users

malka
08-24-2019, 03:48 PM
I am fully Ashkenazi. And edit your name from the G25 coordinates, stupid.

Have you used R before?

Either way, the results you'll get from R if you follow the instructions in the email will be the same results you pasted. The use from those coordinates is that you now get to create your own calculators and use G25 calculators made by others. I ran your dad's coordinates through some simple Jewish calculators I made. The reason it won't work is because you have spaces in the top line of the scaled coordinates for some reason: i.e "PC1 2" , while it should be "PC12"; same goes for "PC2 2".

[1] "distance%=1.6572"

MalkaDad_scaled

AJ_average_scaled,85.2
Romaniote_Jew,9.6
Sephardic_Jew,4.8
Dai,0.4

My modification of another's calculator:

[1] "distance%=1.7836"

MalkaDad_scaled

Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,32
Anatolia_Isparta_EBA,15
ITA_Collegno_MA,9.8
CZE_Early_Slav,9.6
Levant_JOR_EBA,8.2
IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA,7.8
Levant_Canaanite_MBA,6
Mozabite,5.4
IRN_Hasanlu_IA,4.6
Malaysia_Historical,1.6

No, your dad isn't only 1/7th Judean. When interpreting this calculator, you need to be aware of the changing dynamics of the Levant. Your father comes out roughly half/a bit over half Judean. This is because all of CZE and ITA counts towards European input, while some of Empuries and arguably a little bit of Mozabite counts towards Judean. The source of Malyasia is debatable and the other categories all count toward Judean. What I'm saying is debatable, but a large portion counts toward Judean either way.


-Ezekiel 16:3

It's amazing how the Biblical narrative reflects Bronze Age migrations into the Levant.
Here are useful links(make sure to use the right coordinates in each):

http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html
http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators_unscaled.html
http://185.144.156.77:3000/

You'll find a lot of threads on this forum and others with various G25 calculators and related PCAs. And the AJ reference I used is different than the one normally used. I used the average of the 471 academic Ashkenazim.

Lol omg, edited. Thank you for your help and all the info! Lots to research now.

Pine
08-24-2019, 04:03 PM
Lol omg, edited. Thank you for your help and all the info! Lots to research now.

Let us know what he gets on FTDNA's and MH's autosomal breakdown. You should also download DNA Kit Studo from dnagenics.com. Use it to convert his kit to a 23andMe v3 format and upload it to here: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/ to get a prediction of his MTDNA.

Pine
08-24-2019, 04:08 PM
Lol omg, edited. Thank you for your help and all the info! Lots to research now.

Let us know what he gets on FTDNA's and MH's autosomal breakdown. You should also download DNA Kit Studo from dnagenics.com. Use it to convert his kit to a 23andMe v3 format and upload it to here: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/ to get a prediction of his MTDNA.

Pine
08-24-2019, 04:15 PM
New update:

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Guanche Canary Islands (800 AD) ..... 5.691 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) ..... 14.53 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.99 (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users

4. Guanche Canary Islands (630 AD) ..... 17.58 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Guanche Canary Islands (1090 AD) ..... 18.0 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 18.02 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users

7. Ahskelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 18.64 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 20.22 (Click for more info)
Top 90% match vs all users

9. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 20.8 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) ..... 20.96 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

11. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) ..... 22.69 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

12. Guanche Canary Islands (960 AD) ..... 22.86 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

13. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 23.13 (Click for more info)
Top 96% match vs all users

14. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 23.21 (Click for more info)
Top 91% match vs all users

15. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 23.26 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users

16. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 23.29 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users

17. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 23.44 (Click for more info)
Top 82% match vs all users

18. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 24.16 (Click for more info)
Top 82% match vs all users

19. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 24.18 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users

20. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 24.55 (Click for more info)
Top 83% match vs all users

Those are just autosomal matches? What do you get on deep dive? Reupload your kit - they suck at updating Deep Dive. I reupload each time they get new samples.

Snkves
08-24-2019, 07:10 PM
New matches on Deep Dive after re-uploading, pretty epic to match with the new Ostrogoth sample. :)

https://i.imgur.com/Es0s2uS.png

Snkves
08-24-2019, 07:39 PM
Those are just autosomal matches? What do you get on deep dive? Reupload your kit - they suck at updating Deep Dive. I reupload each time they get new samples.

Yeah they only mention it on the Deep Dive map category, not on the original Deep Dive tab.

https://i.imgur.com/BhNt351.png

Bunalim
08-24-2019, 07:52 PM
I'm glad they added Pontic. This is a lot more accurate for me now :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/lVCcH8u.png

Figaro
08-24-2019, 09:27 PM
Sweet, mom’s more Scythian than 99% of MTA users. Steppe stronk. Interestingly, her Avar connection is in the top 98%.

Snkves
08-24-2019, 10:38 PM
With 100 samples:
https://i.imgur.com/vs7wJOE.png

Snkves
08-24-2019, 10:41 PM
Interesting how Swedes are closest to both Sintastha samples.
https://i.imgur.com/nUtkyL4.png

Slavic Italian
08-24-2019, 10:49 PM
I am Scythian! These Polish guys keep trying to make me out to be Uber German.


Info 





Scythian Ukraine


600 BC


scy009
Total cM=76.56
Largest segment=31.38 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 40) - Your raw DNA is 93% closer than other matching users



Chr. 5


4.14 cM











Chr. 9


31.38 cM











Chr. 10


4.67 cM











Chr. 11


6.76 cM











Chr. 16


16.79 cM











Chr. 17


5.63 cM











Chr. 20


7.17 cM

Gaditanian
08-24-2019, 10:52 PM
Sweet, mom’s more Scythian than 99% of MTA users. Steppe stronk. Interestingly, her Avar connection is in the top 98%.

Do you mean this?

https://oi1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah93/gaditanian/Scythian%20Moldova_zpsifdh3boc.jpg

Figaro
08-24-2019, 11:41 PM
Do you mean this?

https://oi1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah93/gaditanian/Scythian%20Moldova_zpsifdh3boc.jpg

No, to Scythian Ukraine. But Scythian-Moldova is not far down her list. She’s in the top 90% with that one.

Gaditanian
08-24-2019, 11:50 PM
No, to Scythian Ukraine. But Scythian-Moldova is not far down her list. She’s in the top 90% with that one.

I think that Moldova is Southern Shifted, this is the reason because I'm related to them being from south Spain

Figaro
08-24-2019, 11:53 PM
I think that Moldova is Southern Shifted, this is the reason because I'm related to them being from south Spain

Hmm. My mother does seem to have a little shifting to Moldova and Croatians on calculators too. This is either due to southern polish ancestry (none I know of, mine are all northeast and Litvin Poles), or how all these services conflate her Slavic ancestry with some of her AJ (she’s 6-8% AJ), or meshing the two together due to having slightly more EEF.

Curious to hear of a Spanish person from the south scoring Scythian-Moldova.

Gaditanian
08-24-2019, 11:56 PM
Hmm. My mother does seem to have a little shifting to Moldova and Croatians on calculators too. This is either due to southern polish ancestry (none I know of, mine are all northeast and Litvin Poles), or how all these services conflate her Slavic ancestry with some of her AJ (she’s 6-8% AJ), or meshing the two together due to having slightly more EEF.

Curious to hear of a Spanish person from the south scoring Scythian-Moldova.

maybe from some balkan ancestry

https://oi1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah93/gaditanian/36954520_1994448927552494_5204542829858127872_n_zp sjzgoenmm.jpg

Figaro
08-25-2019, 12:08 AM
maybe from some balkan ancestry

https://oi1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah93/gaditanian/36954520_1994448927552494_5204542829858127872_n_zp sjzgoenmm.jpg

True. It seems not so rare for modern Iberians to have some pull toward the Balkans, possibly from Roman-era migrants, something folks have kind of tended to downplay.. I wonder how my mom keeps shifting to Croats, sometimes Romanians. Before the most current updates, she used to score Croatia highlighted under the Balkans category in her AC. No longer, however. Maybe just how the calculators interpret the presence of some AJ. I dunno.

Gaditanian
08-25-2019, 12:12 AM
True. It seems not so rare for modern Iberians to have some pull toward the Balkans, possibly from Roman-era migrants. I wonder how my mom keeps shifting to Croats, sometimes Romanians. Before the most current updates, she used to score Croatia highlighted under the Balkans category in her AC. No longer, however. Maybe just how the calculators interpret the presence of some AJ. I dunno.

I think that this are by the Slavs soldiers used by the Muslims at the Al-Andalus Caliphato, they even had a little Kingdom in Al-Andalus, I have academic studies pending to upload here for all TA users speaking about this slavs, very interesting :)

Figaro
08-25-2019, 12:26 AM
I think that this are by the Slavs soldiers used by the Muslims at the Al-Andalus Caliphato, they even had a little Kingdom in Al-Andalus, I have academic studies pending to upload here for all TA users speaking about this slavs, very interesting :)

That’s logical.

Figaro
08-25-2019, 12:27 AM
Very curious about that Avar closeness as well.

**JC**
08-25-2019, 01:21 AM
New Deep Dive results after re-uploading both mine and my mother's AncestryDNA data.

Me

Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland
935 AD SSG-A2
Total cM=253.34
Largest segment=59.39 cM (14 shared. Sample quality: 99) - Your raw DNA is 87% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD stg021
Total cM=79.13
Largest segment=53.17 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 89) - Your raw DNA is 48% closer than other matching users

Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC I2859
Total cM=16.08
Largest segment=8.05 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 43) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Czech Velke Prilepy
2050 BC Rise577
Total cM=13.44
Largest segment=7.5 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is 76% closer than other matching users

Bell Beaker Germany
2500 BC I0112
Total cM=26.49
Largest segment=6.55 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 43) - Your raw DNA is 48% closer than other matching users

Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC I2860
Total cM=16.34
Largest segment=5.34 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 33) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Anglo Saxon
780 AD NO3423
Total cM=4.81
Largest segment=4.81 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 54) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD Sigtuna grt036
Total cM=4.6
Largest segment=4.6 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 17% closer than other matching users

Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD 6DRIF-18
Total cM=4.49
Largest segment=4.49 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is 28% closer than other matching users

Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD 6DRIF-21
Total cM=2.89
Largest segment=2.89 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25) - Your raw DNA is 41% closer than other matching users

Gaulic Gladiator York
250 AD 6DRIF-22
Total cM=2.09
Largest segment=2.09 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is 23% closer than other matching users

Mother

Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland
935 AD SSG-A2
Total cM=207.44
Largest segment=59.23 cM (11 shared. Sample quality: 99) - Your raw DNA is 46% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD Sigtuna 84001
Total cM=93.36
Largest segment=46.87 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 77) - Your raw DNA is 27% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD stg021
Total cM=20.15
Largest segment=12.69 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 89) - Your raw DNA is 30% closer than other matching users

Bell Beaker Germany
2500 BC I0112
Total cM=30.18
Largest segment=11.96 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 43) - Your raw DNA is 47% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD Sigtuna stg026
Total cM=11.71
Largest segment=11.71 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 8) - Your raw DNA is 18% closer than other matching users

Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC I2859
Total cM=26.69
Largest segment=10.68 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 43) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Vandal Chieftain
375 AD DA119
Total cM=11.43
Largest segment=8.13 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 38) - Your raw DNA is 79% closer than other matching users

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD SVK-A1
Total cM=6.93
Largest segment=6.93 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is 23% closer than other matching users

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD VDP-A5
Total cM=6.77
Largest segment=6.77 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 80) - Your raw DNA is 9% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD Sigtuna grt036
Total cM=3.33
Largest segment=3.33 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 14% closer than other matching users

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD NNM-A1
Total cM=2.91
Largest segment=2.91 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 2% closer than other matching users

Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC I2860
Total cM=5.42
Largest segment=2.72 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 33) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Saxon Settler Viking Iceland
935 AD GRS-A1
Total cM=2.3
Largest segment=2.3 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is 35% closer than other matching users

Viking Sweden
1100 AD Sigtuna urm160
Total cM=1.93
Largest segment=1.93 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is 1% closer than other matching users

Germano-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD 3DRIF-16
Total cM=1.74
Largest segment=1.74 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is 11% closer than other matching users

Rocinante
08-25-2019, 10:44 AM
I'm so jealous! Why don't I get Illyrian :eek:

Well, i still don't know the reason why i plot with illyrians :crazy: