Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

[mitalit]

No, pero está con él desde hace 15 años.

vaya

[Damião de Góis]

Una vez Gixajo me dijo que era del sudoeste ibérico genéticamente y que por eso tenía poco shifteo con el resto de países. Es una broma que mantenemos.

O "shifteo" é mais individual que regional, diria eu.

[Gota_type_]

Mirad las lindezas que ponen en el video de youtube que subí con mis resultados de myheritage

-I notice that only spanish guys that have Irish dna are posting their results. When you see faces in Spain, they don’t look like Irish or Scottish for 1 euro. There is a bias on YouTube and it is part of a right wing propaganda to avoid showing Arab dna in spanish people. Maybe there is some spanish with significant Arab dna but they don’t want to disclose it on YouTube. Come on Irish !!!


-Spanish people are not white!


El 90% de esos comentarios los ponen sudamericanos mestizos o amerindios o mulatos, o incluso mexicanos castizos. Hay muchos viviendo en Europa también, se hacen pasar por ""Europeos"" en foros y vídeos y ya se creen q con esto nos afectan (haciendo creer q quien escribe eso es un verdadero irlandés, q a un irlandés se la suda este tema del porcentaje de moro y no lo dice con tanta inquina). Y también mucho moro, amerindio, en España se dedica a atacarnos con lo ÚNICO que pueden atacarnos: "que sois moros, 70.000 años estuvieron los moros en cada cm de la Península Ibérica". Es la única forma de atacarnos. Utilizan a ese 5-6% de españoles "morunos" (mucho más blancos q los moros pero con aspecto algo semita) y los ponen como representación.

Y la estupidez esa de que "a lo mejor hay españoles con significant Arab dna pero q no lo ponen en YouTube". Eso lo dice un retrasado, pues si alguien se mezcló hace 1000 años (cosa rara salvo concubinas, violaciones, y poco más) su % de "arab" sería 1-2% máximo. No hay españoles con significant arab dna, y más cuando se demuestre de una puñetera vez que el Northafrican es Ibero o componente prehistórico blanco (caucasoide) a ambas orillas del Mediterráneo.

[Rocinante]

Señores, yo tengo al patente de la clasificacion taxonomica de Negroid-Mediterranean, vulgarmente conocido como Negro-Med para los holgazanes como vosotros. Usen sabiamente este termino para definir taxonomicamente a alguien, o trolear sin ningun sentido solo para diversion propia, pero que sepan que esto lo ha inventado "El negrito Alex".

[mitalit]

Señores, yo tengo al patente de la clasificacion taxonomica de Negroid-Mediterranean, vulgarmente conocido como Negro-Med para los holgazanes como vosotros. Usen sabiamente este termino para definir taxonomicamente a alguien, o trolear sin ningun sentido solo para diversion propia, pero que sepan que esto lo ha inventado "El negrito Alex".

Deberías hacer un thread serio jaja, seguro que alguien empieza a usarlo

[gixajo]

Señores, yo tengo al patente de la clasificacion taxonomica de Negroid-Mediterranean, vulgarmente conocido como Negro-Med para los holgazanes como vosotros. Usen sabiamente este termino para definir taxonomicamente a alguien, o trolear sin ningun sentido solo para diversion propia, pero que sepan que esto lo ha inventado "El negrito Alex".

Negroid-Mediterranean© by Rocinante. All rights reserved-2020

[Rocinante]

Deberías hacer un thread serio jaja, seguro que alguien empieza a usarlo

A ver, yo tenia pensadisimo, de hecho, a un golpe de raton, un thread hablando sobre la clasificacion taxonomica Negro-Med, e iba a poner que la mayoria son portadores del EUVETRECE, cosa que iba a provocar mi segundo baneo, por eso lo frene. Pero algo podria tener en mente...


Negroid-Mediterranean© by Rocinante. All rights reserved-2020

Southwest Iberian© by gixajo. All rights reserved-2020

https://media1.tenor.com/images/20166ed4c65a1e146d1cc6e7c807187f/tenor.gif?itemid=15656265

[gixajo]

A ver, yo tenia pensadisimo, de hecho, a un golpe de raton, un thread hablando sobre la clasificacion taxonomica Negro-Med, e iba a poner que la mayoria son portadores del EUVETRECE, cosa que iba a provocar mi segundo baneo, por eso lo frene. Pero algo podria tener en mente...



Southwest Iberian© by gixajo. All rights reserved-2020

https://media1.tenor.com/images/20166ed4c65a1e146d1cc6e7c807187f/tenor.gif?itemid=15656265

Qué cabrón...:picard1:

No nos olvidemos del Bilbaíno-Irish © by gixajo. All rights reserved-2020 :)

[Defcon2]

Con mapas y todo:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21837-G25-Moderns-from-Ancients-unscaled&p=706298&viewfull=1#post706298


Italy&France:VK534,0.0091,0.0137,-0.0017,-0.0141,0.0054,-0.0049,-0.0009,-0.0009,0.0029,0.0078,0.0002,-0.0015,-0.0013,-0.0017,-0.0055,0.0011,0.0062,-0.0008,0.0014,0.0015,-0.0014,0.0032,-0.0028,-0.0044,-0.0011
Italy&France:VK535,0.0085,0.0134,-0.0021,-0.0099,0.0047,-0.0023,-0.0008,-0.0029,0.003,0.0136,0.0005,0.0001,-0.0034,0.0011,-0.0008,0.0046,-0.0011,0.001,-0.0008,-0.0061,-0.0046,-0.0003,0.0009,-0.01,-0.0019
Italy&France:VK537,0.0087,0.0144,-0.0013,-0.0123,0.0038,-0.0058,0.0023,0.0023,0.0042,0.0102,0.0003,0.0031,-0.0008,-0.0031,-0.0047,-0.0019,0.0056,0.0024,0.0037,-0.0013,0.0028,-0.0018,-0.0044,-0.001,0.0044
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK365,0.011,0.0133,0.0117,0.0052,0.015,0.00 26,-0.0003,0.0008,0.0039,0.0094,0.0011,0.0057,-0.0129,-0.0045,0.0043,0.0019,-0.0064,-0.001,0.0066,-0.0007,0.009,0.0071,-0.0004,-0.0004,0.0039
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK286,0.0106,0.0145,0.0091,0.0039,0.0108,0. 0055,0.0019,0.0001,0.003,0.013,-0.0036,0.0096,-0.0116,-0.011,0.004,-0.0079,-0.0035,0.0018,0.0014,-0.0064,0.0036,0.0009,-0.0052,0.0064,0.0017
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK442,0.0104,0.0135,0.0124,0.0076,0.0118,0. 0045,-0.0019,0.0028,0.0047,0.0071,0.0007,0.0041,-0.0106,-0.0061,0.0109,-0.0027,0.0028,0.0041,0.0031,-0.0035,0.0066,-0.0005,-0.0016,-0.0006,-0.0014
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK317,0.0107,0.0135,0.0135,0.0083,0.0131,0. 0042,-0.001,0.0024,0.0062,0.009,-0.0039,0.0068,-0.0086,-0.003,0.0107,0.0067,-0.0059,-0.0008,-0.0029,-0.001,0.005,0.0006,-0.0014,0.0082,-0.0032
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK265,0.011,0.0131,0.0129,0.0063,0.0097,0.0 042,-0.0025,0.0044,0.0051,0.0092,-0.0055,0.0037,-0.0086,-0.0054,0.0075,-0.0046,-0.0135,0.002,0.0012,-0.0026,0.0022,0.0033,-0.0054,-0.0018,0.0025
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK350,0.011,0.014,0.013,0.0083,0.0131,0.002 4,-0.0006,0.0024,0.0064,0.0098,-0.0007,0.0039,-0.012,-0.0065,0.0058,-0.008,-0.0107,0.0005,-0.0017,-0.0023,0.0046,0.0035,0.006,0.0038,-0.0002
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK357,0.0101,0.0135,0.0136,0.0105,0.0168,0. 0028,0.0014,0.0048,0.0038,0.009,-0.0035,0.0061,-0.0074,-0.0098,0.0119,0.0012,-0.0031,-0.0018,-0.0052,0.0009,0.0059,0.0023,0.0073,0.001,-0.0043
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK336,0.0108,0.0136,0.0125,0.0046,0.0143,0. 0024,-0.0013,-0.0012,0.0023,0.008,0.0002,0.0035,-0.0078,-0.0062,0.0084,0.012,0.0093,-0.0001,0.006,-0.002,0.003,0.0008,-0.001,0.0015,-0.0013
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK146,0.0101,0.0134,0.0098,0.0055,0.0112,0. 0031,-0.0023,0.0025,0.0048,0.0101,-0.0018,0.0002,-0.0052,-0.0089,0.0057,-0.0011,0.0009,-0.0029,-0.0014,-0.0011,0.005,0.0023,0.0024,-0.0071,0.004
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK385,0.0114,0.0138,0.0164,0.0113,0.0146,0. 0045,0.0011,0.0053,0.0071,0.0023,-0.0044,0.0008,-0.0054,-0.0082,0.0092,-0.0035,-0.013,0,-0.001,-0.0039,0.0042,-0.0002,-0.006,0.0004,-0.0014
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK278,0.0104,0.0141,0.0132,0.0095,0.0113,0. 004,0.0013,0.0055,0.0013,0.0028,-0.0058,0.0075,-0.0053,-0.0076,0.0116,0.0111,0.0138,-0.0054,0.0119,0.006,0.0027,0.0005,0,0.0164,0.0018
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK301,0.0109,0.0127,0.0152,0.0163,0.013,0.0 042,-0.0003,0.0035,0.0038,0.0003,-0.007,0.0011,-0.0074,-0.0071,0.0088,0.0053,0.0015,-0.001,-0.0024,0.0007,0.0084,0.0002,-0.0018,0.0013,0
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK319,0.0109,0.0136,0.0139,0.0106,0.0135,0. 0031,0.0015,0.0024,0.0032,0.0038,-0.0009,0.0044,-0.0041,-0.0104,0.0057,0.0108,-0.0006,0.0041,0.0014,0.0066,0.0021,0.0076,0.0015,0 .0098,-0.0009
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK266,0.0106,0.0137,0.0116,0.0106,0.0111,0. 0045,0.0013,0.005,0.0034,0.0042,-0.0032,0.0078,-0.0103,-0.0036,0.0154,0.0037,-0.0014,-0.0008,0.0033,0,-0.0028,0.0036,0.0026,0.0084,-0.003
FranceBritainGermany&Iberia:VK477,0.011,0.0132,0.014,0.0077,0.0117,0.00 31,0,0.0024,-0.0021,0.0065,-0.0036,0.0056,-0.0037,-0.0118,0.0047,0.0145,0.0079,0.0009,0.0007,0.0009,0 .0045,-0.0042,0.0035,0.0148,-0.0053
FinlandSweden&Eastern_Europe:VK56,0.0106,0.0062,0.024,0.0261,0.0 088,0.0081,0.0039,0.0045,0.0005,-0.013,0.0014,-0.0073,0.0145,0.0041,-0.0067,0,-0.0055,0.0027,-0.0017,0.0068,0.0089,-0.001,0.0018,-0.0032,0
FinlandSweden&Eastern_Europe:VK51,0.0112,0.0106,0.0237,0.0239,0. 0156,0.01,0.0034,0.0077,0.0009,-0.0163,0.0005,-0.0022,0.0049,0.0135,0.0006,-0.0021,-0.0188,-0.003,0.0003,-0.0008,-0.002,0.0034,0.0063,-0.0031,0.0073
FinlandSweden&Eastern_Europe:VK395,0.0111,0.0108,0.0251,0.0256,0 .0132,0.0084,0.0046,0.0084,-0.0008,-0.0189,0.0028,-0.0069,0.0119,0.0085,-0.0103,0.0008,0.0057,-0.0013,-0.0019,0.0009,-0.0002,-0.0059,0.0023,-0.0024,-0.0013
Eastern_Europe&Germany:VK474,0.0112,0.013,0.0198,0.0219,0.0164,0. 0062,0.004,0.0057,-0.0005,-0.0103,0,-0.0067,0.0112,0.0207,-0.0091,0.0131,0.0116,0.0011,0.0003,0.0019,-0.0095,-0.0016,0.0062,-0.0058,-0.0052
Eastern_Europe&Germany:VK160,0.0112,0.0121,0.0216,0.0221,0.016,0. 0127,0.0021,0.0067,-0.0012,-0.0175,-0.0024,-0.0073,0.012,0.0182,-0.0068,-0.0023,-0.0009,-0.0051,0.0055,0.0001,-0.002,-0.0026,0.0102,0.0034,0.0053
Eastern_Europe&Germany:VK139,0.0104,0.0127,0.0198,0.0225,0.0158,0 .009,-0.0009,0.0055,0.0045,-0.0129,0.0031,-0.0032,0.0118,0.019,-0.0067,-0.0025,-0.0002,0.0014,0.0023,0.0031,-0.0049,-0.006,0.009,-0.0031,-0.0037
Eastern_Europe&Germany:VK541,0.0108,0.0124,0.0158,0.0173,0.011,0. 0078,0.0023,0.0049,-0.0015,-0.0086,0.0004,-0.005,0.0109,0.0176,-0.0131,0.001,0.0067,-0.0036,0.0011,0.0034,-0.0062,-0.0098,0.0098,-0.0034,0
Eastern_Europe&Germany:VK340,0.011,0.0127,0.019,0.0191,0.0115,0.0 11,0.0051,0.0076,0.0043,-0.0104,-0.0029,-0.006,0.0071,0.0183,-0.0014,0.0002,0.0108,-0.0003,0.0039,0.0032,-0.0069,-0.003,0.0057,-0.0002,-0.0026
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK390,0.0108,0.0127,0.0205,0.021,0.0132,0 .0101,0.0026,0.0034,0.0001,-0.0046,-0.0036,0.0009,-0.0077,-0.007,0.0219,0.0049,-0.0079,0.0062,0.0067,0.008,0.0136,0.0001,0.0009,0. 0074,0.0025
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK520,0.0123,0.0117,0.0207,0.021,0.0134,0 .0101,-0.0004,0.0028,0.0013,-0.0065,0.0004,-0.0025,-0.0003,-0.0002,0.0167,0.0094,-0.0115,0.0069,0.0015,0.0024,0.0047,-0.0029,0.0014,0.0165,0.0082
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK415,0.0111,0.0121,0.0175,0.0192,0.0127, 0.0079,0.0024,0.0058,-0.0008,-0.0044,0.0002,0.0049,-0.0044,-0.008,0.0148,0.004,-0.0072,0.0002,0.0038,0.0057,0.0134,0.0061,0.0038,0 .0077,-0.0015
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK513,0.0119,0.012,0.0176,0.0187,0.0104,0 .0087,-0.0015,0.0032,0.0021,-0.0046,-0.0029,-0.0018,-0.0029,-0.0063,0.0159,-0.0088,-0.0163,0.0043,0.0039,-0.0014,0.0013,-0.0002,0.0042,0.0159,-0.0005
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK529,0.0115,0.0126,0.0209,0.0196,0.0134, 0.0072,0.0019,0.0025,-0.0019,-0.0072,-0.0001,-0.0006,-0.0046,-0.0039,0.0128,0.0018,-0.0031,0.0001,0.0042,0.0035,0.0048,0.0022,0.0003,0 .0118,0.0011
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK547,0.0115,0.0114,0.019,0.0216,0.015,0. 0064,0.002,0.0025,0.0042,-0.0043,-0.0068,0.0028,-0.0031,-0.0028,0.0136,0.0087,-0.0045,0.004,0.0029,0.0146,0.003,-0.0009,0.0005,0.0092,0.0072
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK184,0.0106,0.0123,0.0192,0.0174,0.0116, 0.0056,0.0023,0.0022,0.0027,-0.0024,-0.0052,0.0041,-0.0106,-0.0052,0.016,-0.0047,-0.0189,0.001,0.0021,0.0059,0.0124,0.0115,-0.0025,0.0085,0
NorwayIreland&Scotland:VK170,0.0108,0.0118,0.0188,0.0199,0.0129, 0.0086,0.0007,0.0033,0.0056,-0.0021,-0.0053,0.0015,-0.0084,-0.0051,0.0155,0.0033,0.0001,-0.0024,0.0016,0.0123,0.006,-0.0006,-0.0045,0.0003,0.0016
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK482,0.0113,0.0123,0.0205,0.0204,0.0134,0 .0088,0.001,0.0025,0.0042,-0.0031,0.0019,-0.0015,-0.0021,-0.0093,0.013,0.0149,0.0044,-0.0038,-0.0007,0.0137,0.0029,-0.0056,0.0042,0.0101,0.0001
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK522,0.0114,0.0129,0.02,0.021,0.0175,0.00 85,-0.0002,0.0043,0.0057,-0.0031,-0.0011,0.0019,-0.0032,-0.0041,0.0163,0.0036,-0.0045,0.0005,0.0032,0.007,0.0058,0.0045,-0.0044,0.0208,0.0016
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK489,0.0111,0.0133,0.0196,0.0182,0.0169,0 .0077,0.0018,0.0038,0.0047,-0.0032,-0.0033,0.0035,-0.0029,-0.003,0.0189,0.0028,-0.0025,0.0062,-0.0015,0.0067,0.0018,0.0024,0.0038,0.0121,0.0031
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK510,0.011,0.0125,0.0191,0.0227,0.0165,0. 012,0.0004,0.0053,0.0035,-0.0035,-0.0031,-0.0036,0.0019,0.0011,0.0135,-0.0028,-0.0105,-0.0004,0.0037,0.0071,0.0149,0.0036,-0.002,0.0131,0.0023
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK484,0.0111,0.0122,0.0194,0.0199,0.0153,0 .0094,0.0025,0.0068,0.0026,-0.0036,-0.0062,0.0022,-0.0023,-0.0001,0.012,0.0008,-0.0163,0.0047,-0.0021,0.0015,0.0086,0.0017,-0.0038,0.0108,0.0053
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK512,0.011,0.0125,0.0182,0.02,0.015,0.008 4,0.0011,0.0052,0.003,-0.0071,-0.0024,-0.0008,0.0032,0.0008,0.0132,0.0071,-0.0047,0.0001,-0.0051,0.0045,0.0088,0.0012,0.0003,0.009,-0.0054
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK506,0.0111,0.0121,0.0218,0.0207,0.0154,0 .0104,0,0.0051,0.0002,-0.0065,-0.0068,0.0008,-0.001,-0.0054,0.0138,0.0089,-0.01,0.0025,0.0028,0.0111,0.0063,-0.001,0.0067,0.0125,0.0029
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK483,0.0112,0.0125,0.0181,0.0191,0.014,0. 0066,0.0031,0.005,0.0027,-0.0063,-0.0051,0.0004,0.0004,-0.0069,0.0201,0.0209,0.0077,0.0047,0.002,0.01,0.00 68,0.0008,0.0019,0.0123,0.0058
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK498,0.0111,0.0125,0.0199,0.0205,0.0147,0 .0089,0.0021,0.0037,0.0013,-0.0076,-0.0008,0.0011,-0.0037,0.0017,0.0105,-0.0037,-0.0167,0.0011,0.0047,0.0012,0.0011,0.0032,-0.0001,0.0115,0.0018
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK549,0.0112,0.0137,0.0177,0.022,0.0156,0. 0077,0.0024,0.005,0.0022,-0.0042,-0.0019,0.0015,-0.0069,-0.0004,0.0125,0.0073,-0.0064,0.0014,0.003,0.0053,0.0056,-0.0024,-0.0005,0.0161,0.0019
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK492,0.0116,0.0117,0.0156,0.017,0.0137,0. 0074,0.0046,0.0044,0.0003,-0.0021,0.0014,-0.0013,-0.0009,-0.0042,0.0141,0.0199,0.0072,-0.0006,0.0058,0.0086,0.0055,0.0032,-0.0014,0.0084,-0.001
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK490,0.0118,0.0126,0.0208,0.0218,0.0154,0 .0076,0.0033,0.0031,0.0024,-0.0049,0.0009,0.001,0.0009,-0.0074,0.0141,0.0206,0.0076,0.0017,-0.0008,0.0028,0.0003,0.0006,0.0019,0.0081,0.0017
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK34,0.0109,0.0134,0.0157,0.0176,0.0128,0. 0104,0.0019,0.0041,0.0012,-0.0031,-0.0011,0.0009,-0.0102,-0.0063,0.0141,0.0149,0.0089,0.0017,-0.0003,0.0053,0.0061,0.0044,0.003,0.0216,0.0017
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK165,0.0108,0.0114,0.0191,0.0195,0.0142,0 .0069,0.0018,0.0079,-0.0006,0.0007,-0.0058,0.0045,-0.007,-0.01,0.0101,0.014,0.0034,0.004,0.0035,0.01,0.0023, 0.002,-0.0012,0.0084,-0.0006
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK316,0.0112,0.0128,0.0176,0.0211,0.0134,0 .0108,0.004,0.0041,0.0036,-0.0005,-0.0049,-0.0035,-0.0071,-0.0037,0.0193,0.006,0.0025,0.0026,0.0071,0.0031,0. 0051,0.0058,0.0004,0.0144,0.0012
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK384,0.0119,0.0136,0.0176,0.0174,0.0119,0 .0083,0.0022,0.0002,0.0023,0.0007,-0.0026,-0.0012,-0.0074,-0.0078,0.0221,0.0154,0.0051,0.0004,0.0008,0.0092,0 .0109,-0.0005,-0.0015,0.0173,0.0034
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK338,0.0117,0.0129,0.0214,0.019,0.0178,0. 0075,0.0013,0.0021,0.0047,-0.003,-0.003,0.0012,-0.0061,-0.0038,0.0193,0.0187,-0.0002,0.0041,0.007,0.0102,0.0042,0.004,-0.0067,0.0086,0.0107
ScandinaviaNetherlandsGermany&Britain:VK6,0.0115,0.0134,0.0164,0.0137,0.0144,0.0 057,0.0027,0.0041,0.0045,0.0021,-0.0015,0.002,-0.0043,-0.0055,0.0107,0.007,-0.0063,0.0069,0.0016,0.0119,0.0031,-0.0003,-0.0063,0.0116,0.0052
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK528,0.0117,0.0138,0.0155,0.0157,0.0137,0 .0086,0.0046,0.0045,0.0008,0.0057,-0.0025,0.0071,-0.0103,-0.0109,0.0204,-0.0008,-0.0141,0.0002,0.0053,-0.0002,-0.0027,0.005,0.0058,0.0094,-0.0001
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK456,0.0107,0.0125,0.0173,0.0181,0.0118,0 .008,0.0011,-0.0003,0.0026,-0.0009,-0.0062,0.0028,-0.0135,-0.01,0.0182,0.0033,-0.0091,0.0025,-0.0042,0.0005,-0.0028,0.0038,-0.0018,0.0031,0.0036
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK201,0.0112,0.0136,0.0154,0.0152,0.0139,0 .0047,0.0017,0.0021,0.0018,-0.0017,-0.0055,0.0043,-0.0131,-0.012,0.02,-0.0044,-0.0208,-0.001,-0.0009,0.0033,0.0075,0.0036,-0.0084,0.0153,0.003
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK525,0.0108,0.0133,0.0182,0.016,0.014,0.0 092,0.0013,0.0038,0.0031,0.0016,-0.0064,0.0054,-0.0092,-0.0134,0.0189,0.0112,-0.0073,-0.0017,-0.0012,0.0021,0.0052,0.0033,-0.0032,0.0102,0.0041
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK203,0.0112,0.0136,0.016,0.0175,0.01,0.00 84,0.0013,0.0042,-0.0005,0.0018,-0.005,0.0048,-0.0077,-0.0104,0.0185,-0.0044,-0.0204,0.0015,0.0051,0.0083,-0.002,0.0037,-0.0036,0.0129,-0.0015
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK207,0.0113,0.0135,0.0163,0.0144,0.0108,0 .0047,0.0003,0.0014,0.0029,0.0018,-0.0021,0.0052,-0.01,-0.0073,0.025,-0.0052,-0.0136,0.0002,0.005,0.0009,0.001,0.0056,-0.0031,0.0212,0.002
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK386,0.012,0.0126,0.0167,0.0189,0.0147,0. 0083,0.0002,-0.0012,0.0015,0.0038,-0.0039,0.0032,-0.0142,-0.0073,0.0199,0.008,-0.001,0.0008,0.0024,0.0129,0.0075,0.0065,0.0032,0. 0092,-0.0014
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK202,0.0107,0.013,0.0145,0.0172,0.0132,0. 0077,-0.003,0.0009,0.0062,0.0056,-0.0002,0.0079,-0.0102,-0.0118,0.0191,0.0064,0.0019,0.004,0.0002,0.0046,0. 0049,0.0018,-0.0029,0.0064,0.005
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK545,0.0107,0.0132,0.016,0.0158,0.0123,0. 0094,0.0006,0.0009,0.0001,0.002,-0.0006,0.0086,-0.0101,-0.0131,0.0168,0.0025,-0.005,0.0013,0.0043,0,0.0046,-0.0024,0.0027,0.0082,0.0013
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK405,0.0112,0.0131,0.0157,0.0191,0.0114,0 .0038,-0.0003,0.0015,0.0043,-0.001,0.0022,0.0067,-0.0109,-0.0097,0.0136,0.0006,-0.0124,0.0012,0.0042,-0.0021,0.0097,0.003,-0.0018,0.0087,0.0043
LevantGreece&Italy:QED-4,0.0081,0.0139,-0.0147,-0.0251,-0.0068,-0.0112,-0.0032,-0.0027,0.0032,0.012,0.0018,-0.0077,0.01,-0.0005,-0.0118,0.0171,0.0083,-0.0007,0.0045,0,0.0026,0.0068,0.0018,0.0055,-0.0033
LevantGreece&Italy:QED-12,0.0077,0.0145,-0.0134,-0.0276,-0.0025,-0.0096,-0.0043,-0.0037,0.0077,0.0088,0.0048,-0.0092,0.0115,-0.0001,-0.0055,-0.0064,0.0054,0.0003,-0.0026,0.0077,-0.0015,0.0055,-0.0073,0.0054,-0.0092
LevantGreece&Italy:RMPR42,0.007,0.0147,-0.0162,-0.0283,-0.0036,-0.0101,-0.0015,-0.0044,0.0064,0.0055,0.0038,-0.0017,0.0082,0.0031,-0.0068,0.0055,-0.0009,0.0016,0.0035,0.001,-0.001,0.0067,0.0015,0,-0.0016
LevantGreece&Italy:I2201,0.0077,0.0147,-0.0146,-0.0312,-0.0046,-0.0115,-0.0009,-0.0027,0.0061,0.0042,0.0069,-0.0022,0.0127,0.0027,0.0018,0.0079,0.0026,0.0065,-0.0008,-0.0026,0.0043,0.0073,-0.0023,0.0004,-0.0034
LevantGreece&Italy:SFI-15,0.0072,0.0135,-0.016,-0.0299,-0.0061,-0.0121,-0.0026,-0.0042,0.0037,0.0057,0.0012,-0.0031,0.0088,-0.0008,-0.0045,0.0068,-0.0009,-0.003,0.0044,-0.0016,0.0041,0.0033,-0.0036,0.0025,-0.0016
LevantGreece&Italy:RMPR1550,0.0074,0.0138,-0.0126,-0.0231,-0.0042,-0.0094,-0.004,-0.0031,0.0069,0.003,-0.0006,-0.0018,0.0058,-0.006,0.0008,0.0113,0.0114,0.0038,-0.0074,0.0023,-0.0015,0.005,0.0038,0.0007,-0.0014
LevantGreece&Italy:SFI-43,0.0034,0.0142,-0.014,-0.0363,0.0011,-0.0152,-0.0042,-0.0006,0.0227,0.0014,0.0092,-0.0125,0.0223,0.0019,-0.0032,0.002,-0.0007,-0.0032,-0.0022,0.0164,0.012,-0.0008,-0.0025,0.0043,-0.0024
LevantGreece&Italy:3DT26,0.0045,0.0154,-0.0135,-0.0316,-0.001,-0.0158,-0.0055,-0.0031,0.0156,0.0002,0.0027,-0.0103,0.0184,0.0028,-0.0029,0.004,-0.0006,-0.0008,-0.0047,0.0084,0.0028,-0.0031,-0.0009,0.0057,-0.0084
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:RMPR132,0.0025,0.0137,-0.0024,-0.023,0.0085,-0.0106,-0.0074,0.0015,0.0247,0.017,0.0028,-0.0012,0.0026,-0.0055,0.0044,-0.0087,0.0008,-0.0027,-0.0205,-0.0025,-0.0072,-0.0141,0.0092,-0.0092,0.0045
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:VIL011,0.0027,0.0144,0.0011,-0.0225,0.0114,-0.0139,-0.0041,0.0012,0.0295,0.023,0.0065,-0.0058,0.0057,-0.0095,0.0057,-0.0011,0.0058,-0.0182,-0.0187,0.0027,-0.0153,-0.0159,0.0179,-0.0039,0.0122
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun002,-0.0044,0.0121,-0.0022,-0.0227,0.0074,-0.0144,-0.0125,0.0069,0.0347,0.0241,0.0061,-0.0048,0.0161,-0.0158,0.0153,-0.0071,0.0015,-0.0163,-0.0374,0.0082,-0.0066,-0.0369,0.0256,0.0064,0.0082
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun005,-0.0017,0.0124,0.0011,-0.0176,0.0162,-0.0107,-0.0148,0.0023,0.0326,0.0155,0.0025,-0.0046,0.0109,-0.0111,0.0144,0.0014,0.0138,-0.0139,-0.0275,0.0147,-0.0113,-0.0207,0.0168,-0.0051,-0.0095
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun008,-0.0024,0.0137,0.0002,-0.0211,0.0137,-0.013,-0.0096,0.0024,0.0312,0.0168,0.0057,-0.0005,0.0105,-0.0116,0.0169,-0.0199,-0.0066,-0.016,-0.0323,0.0057,-0.0129,-0.0234,0.0152,0.0024,-0.0006
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun011,-0.0039,0.0129,-0.0014,-0.0207,0.01,-0.0135,-0.0145,0.0037,0.0356,0.015,0.0041,-0.0046,0.0164,-0.007,0.0182,-0.0138,-0.006,-0.0134,-0.0417,0.0065,-0.0153,-0.037,0.0187,-0.0065,0.0115
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun012,-0.0049,0.0136,-0.0008,-0.0243,0.0075,-0.0136,-0.0124,0.0026,0.0392,0.0124,0.0049,-0.0055,0.0075,-0.0188,0.0207,-0.0098,0.0095,-0.0162,-0.0374,0.0065,-0.0079,-0.0345,0.0181,-0.0021,0.0097
Sub-Saharan:KIN002,-0.0546,0.0059,0.0055,0.0054,0.0019,0.0071,-0.0006,0.0084,-0.0202,0.0109,0.0049,-0.0055,-0.0037,-0.0067,0.0028,0.0039,-0.0043,-0.0024,-0.0035,0.0102,0.0074,-0.0034,-0.0012,-0.0018,0.0059
Sub-Saharan:KIN004,-0.0549,0.0056,0.0048,0.0058,-0.0014,0.0025,-0.0055,0.0064,-0.0146,0.0083,0.0011,0.0025,-0.0005,-0.001,-0.006,0.0095,-0.0047,-0.0054,-0.0033,0.0024,0.0025,0.0013,0.0052,-0.0032,-0.0009
Sub-Saharan:NGO001,-0.0549,0.0066,0.0051,0.0025,-0.0043,0.0031,-0.0076,0.0053,-0.0158,0.0059,0.0026,0.0034,-0.0046,-0.0001,-0.0077,0.0087,-0.0092,0.0086,0.0014,-0.0004,-0.0055,-0.0071,-0.0014,-0.0078,-0.0019
Sub-Saharan:I2298,-0.0542,0.0065,0.0056,0.0035,0.0013,0.0047,-0.0042,0.007,-0.0099,0.0012,0.0005,0.0053,-0.0099,0.0023,-0.0142,0.004,-0.0109,0.0021,-0.0048,0.0052,0.0033,0.0032,0.0015,0.0047,0.0027
North_America:AN4,0.0045,-0.0328,0.0302,0.0227,-0.0333,-0.0057,-0.0798,-0.0964,-0.0018,-0.0122,0.0032,-0.0007,0.0011,-0.0049,-0.0101,-0.0033,0.0022,0.0003,0.009,0.0037,0.0018,-0.0046,0.0052,0.0036,0.0047
North_America:XVII-B-939,0.0046,-0.0327,0.0288,0.0222,-0.0334,-0.0067,-0.0816,-0.0996,-0.0007,-0.0086,-0.0022,0.0049,0.0014,-0.0042,-0.0054,-0.007,-0.0011,0.0061,0.0062,0.0062,0.0032,-0.0041,0.0056,0.0041,0.0056


Target: Juan
Distance: 1.5774% / 0.01577438
80.2 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
19.8 North_AfricaIberia&Italy

[gixajo]

Con mapas y todo:



Eres muy mala gente.

Toma ya, como si fuera poco meternos a los Canarian_Guanches en todos los modelos, ahora encima lo mezclan con más referencias, en Anthrogenica les sale North Africa hasta a los British.:picard1:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 1.5583% / 0.01558272
72.8 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
16.6 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
7.6 Italy&France
3.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance


Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 1.6359% / 0.01635920
64.2 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
19.2 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
15.6 Italy&France
1.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance


Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.4469% / 0.01446892
78.4 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
13.6 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
8.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance

Hasta que no pones 1X no desaparece.:rotfl:

[Defcon2]

Eres muy mala gente.

Toma ya, como si fuera poco meternos a los Canarian_Guanches en todos los modelos, ahora encima lo mezclan con más referencias, en Anthrogenica les sale North Africa hasta a los British.:picard1:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 1.5583% / 0.01558272
72.8 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
16.6 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
7.6 Italy&France
3.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance


Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 1.6359% / 0.01635920
64.2 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
19.2 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
15.6 Italy&France
1.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance


Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.4469% / 0.01446892
78.4 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
13.6 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
8.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance

Hasta que no pones 1X no desaparece.:rotfl:

No sé que tienes en contra de los guanches si son buena gente, no todos los africanos del norte tenían una genética tan diferenciada de los europeos del sur a lo largo del tiempo, es por eso que hay cierto solapamiento. Lo digo por ese porcentaje ibérico o italiano que puedan obtener.

[gixajo]

No sé que tienes en contra de los guanches si son buena gente, no todos los africanos del norte tenían una genética tan diferenciada de los europeos del sur a lo largo del tiempo, es por eso que hay cierto solapamiento. Lo digo por ese porcentaje ibérico o italiano que puedan obtener.

Los Guanches eran excelentes personas, no como otros que yo sé...:rolleyes:

Ahora en serio, no es un mal modelo del todo, teniendo en cuenta que se supone que son "vikingas" practicamente todas las referencias de nuestro porcentaje mayoritario y aún así conseguimos unas correctas distancias.:D

[Defcon2]

Los Guanches eran excelentes personas, no como otros que yo sé...:rolleyes:

Ahora en serio, no es un mal modelo del todo, teniendo en cuenta que se supone que son "vikingas" practicamente todas las referencias de nuestro porcentaje mayoritario y aún así conseguimos unas correctas distancias.:D

1.5 es bastante largo tratándose de unscaled, pero estaban muy mezclados.

[gixajo]

1.5 es bastante largo tratándose de unscaled, pero estaban muy mezclados.

Me esperaría distancias peores con esas referencias, por eso digo "correctas".

Y tampoco me parecen mal esas etiquetas de NorthAfrican&Iberian&Italy y similares, al menos muestra que son individuos mezclados, y cubren herencias genéticas ambiguas, mostrando una tendencia más que un origen específico.

[gixajo]

Nueva actualización de ADNTRO, da la impresión de que se basan en Gedmatch para dar estos resultados.

Van a actualización cada dos semanas.:eek:

"Tu similitud genética con etnias del mundo"

https://i.imgur.com/pOikl5y.png

"Tu similitud genética con regiones de España"

https://i.imgur.com/05zCHK4.png

Esto lo pongo con spoiler para que no me acusen de "nordicista".

"Tu similitud genética en paises actuales"

https://i.imgur.com/HML9WVO.png

[Defcon2]

Nueva actualización de ADNTRO, da la impresión de que se basan en Gedmatch para dar estos resultados.

Van a actualización cada dos semanas.:eek:

"Tu similitud genética con etnias del mundo"

https://i.imgur.com/pOikl5y.png

"Tu similitud genética con regiones de España"

[img]https://i.imgur.com/05zCHK4.png

Esto lo pongo con spoiler para que no me acusen de "nordicista".

"Tu similitud genética en paises actuales"

[img]https://i.imgur.com/HML9WVO.png

Cada vez los países nórdicos están más al sur.

[gixajo]

Cada vez los países nórdicos están más al sur.

La semana que viene a ver que soy, hace una semana era cosa de un 80% gallego.:rolleyes:

¿Tú exportaste datos en crudo a ADNTRO?

Me suena que Rocinante y Spaniard2.0 si lo hicieron.

[Defcon2]

La semana que viene a ver que soy, hace una semana era cosa de un 80% gallego.:rolleyes:

¿Tú exportaste datos en crudo a ADNTRO?

Me suena que Rocinante y Spaniard2.0 si lo hicieron.

Cada semana eres una persona diferente según esa empresa. No, no lo hice ni pienso hacerlo.

[gixajo]

Cada semana eres una persona diferente según esa empresa. No, no lo hice ni pienso hacerlo.

Bueno, por 10 euros es la empresa que más resultados me ha dado hasta ahora.;)

[Defcon2]

Bueno, por 10 euros es la empresa que más resultados me ha dado hasta ahora.;)

Laughing Out Loud.

[mitalit]

La semana que viene a ver que soy, hace una semana era cosa de un 80% gallego.:rolleyes:

¿Tú exportaste datos en crudo a ADNTRO?

Me suena que Rocinante y Spaniard2.0 si lo hicieron.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh no lances falsos rumores sobre mi persona

[gixajo]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh no lances falsos rumores sobre mi persona

Son falsos rumores verdaderos.

[gixajo]

¿Alguna propuesta para hacer un modelo o calculador novedoso, original y cuqui con referencias customizadas?

O para hacer nuevas referencias también.

Ofrecezme opciones y sugeridme cosas, o me vengaré.

[Defcon2]

¿Alguna propuesta para hacer un modelo o calculador novedoso, original y cuqui con referencias customizadas?

O para hacer nuevas referencias también.

Ofrecezme opciones y sugeridme cosas, o me vengaré.

Haz una específicamente para españoles del suroeste.

[gixajo]

Haz una específicamente para españoles del suroeste.

Rencoroso...

Oye, y hacer megareferencias, por ejemplo juntando las 4 referencias del modelo ese de "las cuatro esquinas de Europa" en una sola, y hacer lo mismo con Asia, África etc?

Saldrían distancias muy grandes, pero igual discriminaría bien por continentes el %...

Un modelo con una sola referencia por continente. Con mi porcentaje de modelos buenos frente a los desastroso, seguro que sería un desastre.;)

¿What is your opinion about this issue?

[gixajo]

Bueno, me voy a echar la siesta, luego me pongo a hacer experimentos.

[Defcon2]

Rencoroso...

Oye, y hacer megareferencias, por ejemplo juntando las 4 referencias del modelo ese de "las cuatro esquinas de Europa" en una sola, y hacer lo mismo con Asia, África etc?

Saldrían distancias muy grandes, pero igual discriminaría bien por continentes el %...

Un modelo con una sola referencia por continente. Con mi porcentaje de modelos buenos frente a los desastroso, seguro que sería un desastre.;)

¿What is your opinion about this issue?

Eso pensé yo, pero para hacer una referencia representativa de Europa habría que tener en cuenta el número de habitantes de cada país, etc.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

The genetics of the Spaniards, taking into consideration Castilians as a proxy, consists of about 56% of an EEF base of Anatolian origin, plus 14% of WHG which has always been present in Europe and the Iberian Peninsula, 13% of ANE originating from what today is the Eurasian steppe, 12% CHG of Caucasian origin and 4% of North African origin. Hispanic Americans have a more complex picture and can be very heterogeneous from each other, but they generally correspond to a mix already mentioned above plus a West African and Amerindian base. Many may also have more Middle Eastern or even Eastern Eurasian DNA than Amerindians or Spaniards.

[Rocinante]

The genetics of the Spaniards, taking into consideration Castilians as a proxy, consists of about 56% of an EEF base of Anatolian origin, plus 14% of WHG which has always been present in Europe and the Iberian Peninsula, 13% of ANE originating from what today is the Eurasian steppe, 12% CHG of Caucasian origin and 4% of North African origin. Hispanic Americans have a more complex picture and can be very heterogeneous from each other, but they generally correspond to a mix already mentioned above plus a West African and Amerindian base. Many may also have more Middle Eastern or even Eastern Eurasian DNA than Amerindians or Spaniards.

Yep, basically is like that. CHG has ANE admixture (~1/3), so the % of ANE you gave is correct, but i prefer to say how much steppe admixture has an european or west asian population. Castillians usually have 28~29% of Steppe, meaning that they have 14~15% of ANE.

[gixajo]

Eso pensé yo, pero para hacer una referencia representativa de Europa habría que tener en cuenta el número de habitantes de cada país, etc.

Para determinar un origen de zonas tan grandes de una forma burda, no hace falta eso.

Pero dudo que funcione algo así.

[Defcon2]

Para determinar un origen de zonas tan grandes de una forma burda, no hace falta eso.

Pero dudo que funcione algo así.

Pug qué no? quiero hacer el promedio más representativo de la historia.

[gixajo]

Pug qué no? quiero hacer el promedio más representativo de la historia.

Pues hazlo.:thumb001:

[gixajo]

Hoy buscando correos viejos de la mujer del primo de mi padre con la que contacté por que me salieron como matches en MH, para comentarle que el hermano de mi padre había fallecido, ví que uno de esos correor tenían adjuntos una tabla excell, y dentro venían los resultados de Morley que les recomendé, de mi tío abuelo materno, de su hijo, y del nieto.El del hijo no es exactamente el mismo, pero la lectura del Morley igual puede variar, o igual son los tres el mismo, pero unos mas precisos que otros.¿Qué opinan los expertos en Y Dna?

[spoiler]https://i.imgur.com/Bk9nXWf.png[spoiler]

[Rocinante]

Hoy buscando correos viejos de la mujer del primo de mi padre con la que contacté por que me salieron como matches en MH, para comentarle que el hermano de mi padre había fallecido, ví que uno de esos correor tenían adjuntos una tabla excell, y dentro venían los resultados de Morley que les recomendé, de mi tío abuelo materno, de su hijo, y del nieto.El del hijo no es exactamente el mismo, pero la lectura del Morley igual puede variar, o igual son los tres el mismo, pero unos mas precisos que otros.¿Qué opinan los expertos en Y Dna?

[spoiler]https://i.imgur.com/Bk9nXWf.png[spoiler]

Gabri y Dani son R-L11 con altísima probabilidad de que sean R-DF27, y Gabriel es R-L21 como yo. De donde son cada uno?

[gixajo]

Gabri y Dani son R-L11 con altísima probabilidad de que sean R-DF27, y Gabriel es R-L21 como yo. De donde son cada uno?

Gabri será el hermano de mi abuela biológica de Úbeda, Jaén, Andalucía.Gabriel es su hijo, primo de mi padre, nacido en Vitoria y de madre alavesa y casado con otra alavesa, y Dani será el hijo del anterior, también nacido Vitoria.

En teoría,que yo sepa, siguen los tres una misma línea paternal de la que el más antiguo de ellos era de Úbeda,osea que deberían tener el mismo Y Dna.Entonces ¿tendrán los tres DF27 como subclado común?

Creo que tengo acceso a su árbol de MH todavía, pero me suena que es así.

[Rocinante]

Gabri será el hermano de mi abuela biológica de Úbeda, Jaén, Andalucía.Gabriel es su hijo, primo de mi padre, nacido en Vitoria y de madre alavesa y casado con otra alavesa, y Dani será el hijo del anterior, también nacido Vitoria.

En teoría,que yo sepa, siguen los tres una misma línea paternal de la que el más antiguo de ellos era de Úbeda,osea que deberían tener el mismo Y Dna.Entonces ¿tendrán los tres DF27 como subclado común?

Creo que tengo acceso a su árbol de MH todavía, pero me suena que es así.

Entonces todos son R-L21, solo que testados con un chip diferente, siendo Gabriel el qué se testeo con un chip más moderno. Curioso, ya que hasta donde yo sé, no hay casi R-L21 en Andalucía.

[mitalit]

Gabri será el hermano de mi abuela biológica de Úbeda, Jaén, Andalucía.Gabriel es su hijo, primo de mi padre, nacido en Vitoria y de madre alavesa y casado con otra alavesa, y Dani será el hijo del anterior, también nacido Vitoria.

En teoría,que yo sepa, siguen los tres una misma línea paternal de la que el más antiguo de ellos era de Úbeda,osea que deberían tener el mismo Y Dna.Entonces ¿tendrán los tres DF27 como subclado común?

Creo que tengo acceso a su árbol de MH todavía, pero me suena que es así.

En mi caso 23andme y morley me dan haplogrupos diferentes.

[Rocinante]

En mi caso 23andme y morley me dan haplogrupos diferentes.

MorleyDNA esta desactualizado, eso hay que tenerlo en cuenta. Podrias compartir los resultados de MorleyDNA? A ver que jugo le sacamos.

[Andullero]

Mis resultados de Gedrosia K3 en Vahaduo:

Distance to: Andullero
16.22718706 Yemen
25.72848616 BedouinA
26.01648131 Ethiopian_Jew
28.73358488 Makrani
30.12836703 Jordanian
31.26155946 Palestinian
31.48245384 Brahui
31.50257291 Syrian
31.59590638 Balochi
31.65828801 Kurd_SE
32.87102219 Yemenite_Jew
33.18426585 Saudi
33.80056065 Lebanese
34.03138698 Sindhi
34.36272836 Pashtun_Afghan
34.41412210 Pathan
34.94390505 Iranian
35.03125033 Tajik
35.05041084 Kshatriya
35.05664559 Tajik_Pomiri
35.07316496 Kalash
35.81413827 GujaratiA
36.16275709 Turkish
36.82612524 Uzbek_Afghan
36.88162822 Kashmiri_Pandit

[mitalit]

MorleyDNA esta desactualizado, eso hay que tenerlo en cuenta. Podrias compartir los resultados de MorleyDNA? A ver que jugo le sacamos.

Claro que si! Esto?
https://i.gyazo.com/b1509c16e1e9087b8ba0faa1763136e4.png

[Rocinante]

Claro que si! Esto?
https://i.gyazo.com/b1509c16e1e9087b8ba0faa1763136e4.png

Exactamente amigo, era esto lo que queria. Mira, es "practicamente" el mismo resultado, tienes el tipico chip que estan dando todas las compañias de unos 2 años para aca, en los que solo cambian muy pocas cosas, y en los que todos los que somos R1b, somos positivos por R-S47, un clado lejano que pertenece al R-U152. Se sabe que ningun chip, hasta ahora, testea como tal el R-DF27, asi que teniendo en cuenta que no eres R-S47, y que R-Z225 es un clado que se descubrio despues de que MorleyDNA dejara de actualizar, pues esta acertado.

[gixajo]

Iba a pedirle al autor si lo podía copiar aquí, pero para variar estoy vago, así que os pongo el enlace:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21939-G25-World-K60-SCALED


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8306% / 0.01830577
92.6 Iberia
4.0 British_Isles
3.4 Baltic_Rim


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0558% / 0.02055780
92.2 Iberia
4.0 Barbary_Coast
3.8 Greece


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3091% / 0.02309064
80.8 Iberia
18.2 British_Isles
1.0 Baltic_Rim

[mitalit]

Exactamente amigo, era esto lo que queria. Mira, es "practicamente" el mismo resultado, tienes el tipico chip que estan dando todas las compañias de unos 2 años para aca, en los que solo cambian muy pocas cosas, y en los que todos los que somos R1b, somos positivos por R-S47, un clado lejano que pertenece al R-U152. Se sabe que ningun chip, hasta ahora, testea como tal el R-DF27, asi que teniendo en cuenta que no eres R-S47, y que R-Z225 es un clado que se descubrio despues de que MorleyDNA dejara de actualizar, pues esta acertado.
Gracias tio, entonces los primos de gixajo probablemente se testearon antes del 2018

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.3616% / 0.02361623
54.4 Iberia
27.4 British_Isles
9.0 Apennine_Peninsula
4.2 Barbary_Coast
3.8 Greece
1.2 Tibet

[Rocinante]

Gracias tio, entonces los primos de gixajo probablemente se testearon antes del 2018

Exactamente, querido amigo. Es así.

[Defcon2]

Iba a pedirle al autor si lo podía copiar aquí, pero para variar estoy vago, así que os pongo el enlace:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21939-G25-World-K60-SCALED


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8306% / 0.01830577
92.6 Iberia
4.0 British_Isles
3.4 Baltic_Rim


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0558% / 0.02055780
92.2 Iberia
4.0 Barbary_Coast
3.8 Greece


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3091% / 0.02309064
80.8 Iberia
18.2 British_Isles
1.0 Baltic_Rim

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.7365% / 0.02736523
91.4 Iberia
4.8 Barbary_Coast
2.6 India_Southern
0.8 Africa_Southern_Hunter_Gatherer
0.4 Taiwan

Sospecho que ese porcentaje taiwanés o chino se debe a un tipo de mezcla foráneo o extraño que tengo, como por ejemplo el indio/gitano, es una suposición. Cosas del cálculo.

[gixajo]

Gracias tio, entonces los primos de gixajo probablemente se testearon antes del 2018

Podría ser, para cuando me llegaron mis resultados de MH, ellos ya tenían todos el test hecho, porque me salieron todos como matches cercanos.

Mis resultados no recuerdo bien si llegaron muy a finales de Diciembre del 19 o justo los primeros días del 20.

[gixajo]

El pc me va fatal desde hace un par de días, el ventilador de la torre mete un ruido como que en cualquier momento va a eexplotar, el monitor se enciende en blanco y tengo que apagarlo y encenderlo varias veces hasta que consigue mostrar algo, las páginas de internet se me congelan, y si tengo abiertos muchos documentos de texto a la vez cuando voy a cerrarlos tardan varios segundos en cerrarse.

Incluso mientras escribo este mensaje desde que doy a las teclas hasta que salen las letras en la pantalla tienen medio segundo de retraso.

Así que acabo de comprar un portátil baratito para que sustituya a este cuando lo lleve a que me lo pongan en condiciones.

Nunca he comprado un portátil reacondicionado, no es gran cosa, pero lo suficiente para salir del paso mientras este esté en el taller.

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.8477% / 0.01847669
76.2 Iberia
14.4 British_Isles
4.4 South_Caucasus
2.2 Lower_Guinea
1.6 Barbary_Coast
0.6 Baltic_Rim
0.6 Melanesia


Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02973568 Iberia:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05035010 Gaul_&_Germania:French_Alsace
0.05968908 Eastern_Balkans:Romanian
0.06045671 Apennine_Peninsula:Italian_Umbria
0.06678674 Europe_Alps:Austrian
0.07491510 Central_Europe:Hungarian
0.07581716 Western_Balkans:Bosnian
0.07816541 Greece:Greek_Peloponnese
0.07847052 British_Isles:Irish
0.09268344 Fennoscandia:Swedish
0.11055662 Eastern_Europe:Ukrainian
0.13307463 Anatolia:Turkish_Central
0.14886928 South_Caucasus:Armenian
0.14905503 Levant:Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.15136415 North_Caucasus:Balkar
0.15172119 Baltic_Rim:Latvian
0.15322069 Mesopotamia:Assyrian
0.15992824 Persia:Iranian_Fars
0.18241383 Barbary_Coast:Berber_ALG_Chaoui
0.18466668 Nile_Delta:Egyptian
0.21281596 North_Arabia:BedouinB
0.21404030 Central_Arabia:Saudi
0.21916333 South_Arabia:Yemenite_Mahra
0.22166063 Balochistan:Balochi
0.22327328 India_Northern:Jatt_Pathak

[mitalit]

He vuelto a meter mi raw en myheritage para ver si había cambiado con la actualización y ha cambiado un poco pero muy poco. No se si ha cambiado porque son cuentas diferentes o por la actualizacion, que opinais? A vosotros os ha cambiado ya?

NUEVO
https://i.gyazo.com/b13c574e155ee4c8e8f81da5560fadc9.png
VIEJO
https://i.gyazo.com/d3fc4f0277ea8ac2b6801034a5419cfe.png

[gixajo]

He vuelto a meter mi raw en myheritage para ver si había cambiado con la actualización y ha cambiado un poco pero muy poco. No se si ha cambiado porque son cuentas diferentes o por la actualizacion, que opinais? A vosotros os ha cambiado ya?

G]

Ningún cambio en ninguno de las estimaciones de los tres kits, estamos los tres igual que antes.

Aunque cada día tengo más matches, y gracias a que han actualizado el árbol de los familiares de mi padre, tengo los dos apellidos de dos de mis tatarabuelos de Úbeda (pero extrañamente no sus nombres).

[Gota_type_]

He vuelto a meter mi raw en myheritage para ver si había cambiado con la actualización y ha cambiado un poco pero muy poco. No se si ha cambiado porque son cuentas diferentes o por la actualizacion, que opinais? A vosotros os ha cambiado ya?

NUEVO
https://i.gyazo.com/b13c574e155ee4c8e8f81da5560fadc9.png
VIEJO
https://i.gyazo.com/d3fc4f0277ea8ac2b6801034a5419cfe.png

En 23andme, te sale algo de asian?

[mitalit]

En 23andme, te sale algo de asian?

En trace ancestry 0,1 broadly central asian, nothern indian and pakistani

[Gota_type_]

En trace ancestry 0,1 broadly central asian, nothern indian and pakistani

Supongo q al igual q mi 0.1 East Asian es debido a que seguramente tú tb vengas de pueblos pequeños y aislados q durante siglos se han mezclado solo entre ellos, y por eso, al haber menos variabilidad, todavía se conservan remanentes de épocas más antiguas. Nos pasa sobre todo a los gallegos (de ahí q tengamos tan alto el supuesto NorthAfrican), pero he visto incluso a gente del norte de Europa dando un 0.2% NorthAfrican en 23andme, o 0.1 subsahariano a un sueco q vive en un pueblo perdido del norte de Suecia.

[gixajo]

Estoy intentando subir mi raw data a Wegene, pero lleva media hora descargando el fichero.¿Es normal esto?

he leido que su estimación étnica para Europeos es de risa, pero que los haplotipos los trabajan bien, lo subo ahí por lo segundo.

Eso y para dar a los chinos mas raw data para que puedan fabricar nuevos virus que usar como armas biológicas que afecten solo a etnias específicas que tengan como objetivo.:rolleyes:

[Defcon2]

Estoy intentando subir mi raw data a Wegene, pero lleva media hora descargando el fichero.¿Es normal esto?

he leido que su estimación étnica para Europeos es de risa, pero que los haplotipos los trabajan bien, lo subo ahí por lo segundo.

Eso y para dar a los chinos mas raw data para que puedan fabricar nuevos virus que usar como armas biológicas que afecten solo a etnias específicas que tengan como objetivo.:rolleyes:

Intenté subirla una vez pero la carga era infinita y no pude.

[gixajo]

Intenté subirla una vez pero la carga era infinita y no pude.

Eso está pasandome a mí, igual tiene que ver algo con la ruta de acceso de donde se supone que tiene que descargarse que salió automáticamente al elegir el fichero...

https://i.imgur.com/DBsvWzg.png

fakepath??? No tengo ninguna carpeta que se llame así .Que nombre más sospechoso...

Voy a parar eso e intentar ver si puedo poner la ruta de acceso manualmente.

[mitalit]

Supongo q al igual q mi 0.1 East Asian es debido a que seguramente tú tb vengas de pueblos pequeños y aislados q durante siglos se han mezclado solo entre ellos, y por eso, al haber menos variabilidad, todavía se conservan remanentes de épocas más antiguas. Nos pasa sobre todo a los gallegos (de ahí q tengamos tan alto el supuesto NorthAfrican), pero he visto incluso a gente del norte de Europa dando un 0.2% NorthAfrican en 23andme, o 0.1 subsahariano a un sueco q vive en un pueblo perdido del norte de Suecia.
No me tomaría muy enserio nada por debajo de 1% en 23andme

[Gota_type_]

No me tomaría muy enserio nada por debajo de 1% en 23andme

Pero algo de haber para que salte el componente. Es decir, la máquina no lo da aleatorio, otra cosa es q la definición del componente sea mala, pero el Asian, aunq sea minúsculo sale en el resultado, es decir, algunos asiáticos tienen esos mismos genes, otra cosa q sea de ancestros comunes previos anteriores a las poblaciones euro-asiáticas, es decir, q no sea en realidad asiático sino algo bastante más antiguo pero q han calificado como asiático.

No creo q la maquinita de análisis dé resultados x porque le salga de los huevos. Algo habrá, aunq sean malos datos introducidos.

[mitalit]

Pero algo de haber para que salte el componente. Es decir, la máquina no lo da aleatorio, otra cosa es q la definición del componente sea mala, pero el Asian, aunq sea minúsculo sale en el resultado, es decir, algunos asiáticos tienen esos mismos genes, otra cosa q sea de ancestros comunes previos anteriores a las poblaciones euro-asiáticas, es decir, q no sea en realidad asiático sino algo bastante más antiguo pero q han calificado como asiático.

No creo q la maquinita de análisis dé resultados x porque le salga de los huevos. Algo habrá, aunq sean malos datos introducidos.
Algo habrá pero no me lo tomaría muy enserio

[gixajo]

Igual es pronto aún para hablar, pero...

¿Alguno de vosotros tiene instalado el addblock en el navegador?

[gixajo]

Lo digo porque lo acabo de instalar en el chrome, y el foro ha dejado de irme mal.

Es que si tardaba más de dos minutos en escribir un post, directamente se me colgaba la página, y el post se perdía. Desde hace dos días.

Ha sido una pesadilla, para ver el foro, tenía que cerrarlo y abrirlo cada vez que intentaba ver un trhead .

No podía ni escribir, hasta las letras tardaban en salir después de pulsar las teclas.

[gixajo]

Estos posts en cadena, de hecho son una prueba para ver si realmente va bien, porque no podía escribir tres posts seguidos ultimamente ni en broma.

[mitalit]

Igual es pronto aún para hablar, pero...

¿Alguno de vosotros tiene instalado el addblock en el navegador?
Yope

[gixajo]

Yope

¿Lo tenías antes de usar este foro?

Lo digo en serio, me va muy bien desde que lo instalé. No sé si a tí con él ya instalado has tenido problemas estos días.

[Defcon2]

¿Lo tenías antes de usar este foro?

Lo digo en serio, me va muy bien desde que lo instalé. No sé si a tí con él ya instalado has tenido problemas estos días.

Tengo instalado el adblock y muchas veces tengo problemas con el foro, está hecho una mierda.

[mitalit]

¿Lo tenías antes de usar este foro?

Lo digo en serio, me va muy bien desde que lo instalé. No sé si a tí con él ya instalado has tenido problemas estos días.

Lo tengo desde siempre, pero en el movil no lo tengo y el foro me va de culo

[Defcon2]

El adblock, la única extensión que sirve para algo útil.

[gixajo]

Tengo instalado el adblock y muchas veces tengo problemas con el foro, está hecho una mierda.

Pues al menos yo estoy notando que va mejor.

Supongo que de los ataques furiosos de database error en cadena, no se libra nadie, ni con el adblock.

Por cierto, lo de Wegene vaya timo, seguro que se han quedado con los raw data gratis y encima no nos dan una mierdosa estimación étnica a cambio.

Lo intenté también con el archivo zip y mismo resultado, en dos horas y media dejé el pc encendido y sin cerrar la página, y nada.

[gixajo]

Ya que estamos, probad, probad mis deliciosas referencias :dizzy:


Iberian:spain+portugal,0.1114262,0.1457656,0.03910 42,-0.0021563,0.0435893,-0.0028766,-0.0027518,0.0023328,0.0245443,0.0311097,-0.0019483,0.0076193,-0.0139167,-0.0119986,0.0110553,0.0002514,-0.0017091,-0.0005234,-0.0038558,-0.0008879,0.0024943,-0.0015599,-0.0005079,-0.0021326,0.0002108
Iberian:5subregions,0.1125447,0.1463265,0.0405907,-0.0012957,0.0446156,-0.0023888,-0.0026005,0.0017872,0.0249589,0.0323751,-0.0025929,0.0076949,-0.0141516,-0.0123163,0.0108789,-0.0007383,-0.0044854,-0.0007214,-0.0029596,-0.0014927,0.0035598,-0.0015829,-0.0018367,-0.0031920,0.0008707
Spanish:32references,0.1166783,0.1469202,0.0422014 ,0.0001194,0.0450415,-0.0017042,-0.0017625,0.0019056,0.0234905,0.0324784,-0.0031625,0.0078176,-0.0150963,-0.0127342,0.0095535,0.0009008,-0.0022862,-0.0001598,-0.0019496,-0.0015307,0.0038505,-0.0005478,-0.0023167,-0.0031321,0.0005265

Con lista de distancias me vale.:thumb001:

[Defcon2]

Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.03272252 Iberian:5subregions
0.03334919 Iberian:spain+portugal
0.03610378 Spanish:32references

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.2723% / 0.03272252
100.0 Iberian:5subregions

[gixajo]

Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.03272252 Iberian:5subregions
0.03334919 Iberian:spain+portugal
0.03610378 Spanish:32references

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.2723% / 0.03272252
100.0 Iberian:5subregions

Maldito seas, eres un hueso duro de roer, rara vez consigo hacerte bajar de 3.

[Defcon2]

Maldito seas, eres un hueso duro de roer, rara vez consigo hacerte bajar de 3.

Puedo bajar de 3 si utilizo muestras de al sur del Sáhara, pero eso ya sería hacer trampa debido a mi ascendencia.

[Damião de Góis]

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02640598 Iberian:5subregions
0.02667859 Iberian:spain+portugal
0.02978280 Spanish:32references

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.6391% / 0.02639139
81.6 Iberian:5subregions
18.4 Iberian:spain+portugal

What are the 5 subregions?

[gixajo]

Puedo bajar de 3 si utilizo muestras de al sur del Sáhara, pero eso ya sería hacer trampa debido a mi ascendencia.

Todos aquí sabemos que si usamos la referencia de judíos marroquies , nuestras distancias bajan considerablemente.:rolleyes:

[gixajo]

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02640598 Iberian:5subregions
0.02667859 Iberian:spain+portugal
0.02978280 Spanish:32references

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.6391% / 0.02639139
81.6 Iberian:5subregions
18.4 Iberian:spain+portugal

What are the 5 subregions?

Sorry, my fault, actually they are 6...

Iberian,=Iberian:Center,+Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia, +Iberian:North_Iberia,+Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia,+I berian:SouthWest_Iberia,+Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia

Iberian:Center=CastillaYLeón+CastillaLaMancha
Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia=Portuguese,+Spanish_Galic ia,
Iberian:North_Iberia=Spanish_Navarra,+Spanish_Pais _Vasco,+Spanish_Cantabria,
Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia=Spanish_Valencia,+Spanish _Cataluna,
Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia,=Spanish_Andalucia,+Spani sh_Extremadura,+Portuguese,
Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia=Spanish_Murcia,+Spanish_A ndalucia,+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,

[Defcon2]

Todos aquí sabemos que si usamos la referencia de judíos marroquies , nuestras distancias bajan considerablemente.:rolleyes:

Bueno, los judíos son el grupo mena más mezclado con europeos con diferencia, así que es normal. Con los Bantú o Yoruba eso no sucede.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.2723% / 0.03272252
100.0 Iberian

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.8958% / 0.02895798
98.0 Iberian
2.0 Yoruba

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.8868% / 0.02886754
98.0 Iberian
2.0 Bantu_S.W.

[Rocinante]

Todos aquí sabemos que si usamos la referencia de judíos marroquies , nuestras distancias bajan considerablemente.:rolleyes:

Es que los judios marroquies son de los judios mas europeos que hay en cuanto a genetica se puede hablar, por eso a muchos de nosotros nos va a salir.

[Rocinante]

0.03615091 Iberian:spain+portugal
0.03975161 Iberian:5subregions
0.04091371 Spanish:32references

Distance: 3.6151% / 0.03615091
100.0 Iberian:spain+portugal

[HelloGuys]

Es que los judios marroquies son de los judios mas europeos que hay en cuanto a genetica se puede hablar, por eso a muchos de nosotros nos va a salir.

Son más europeos que los mismos Asquenazís?? :O

[Rocinante]

Son más europeos que los mismos Asquenazís?? :O

No mas que los ashkenazies, pero estarian de segundo o de terceros, junto a los judios de Libia que tambien estan a la par. Es que el judio es un MENA bastante europeizado geneticamente.

[HelloGuys]

No mas que los ashkenazies, pero estarian de segundo o de terceros, junto a los judios de Libia que tambien estan a la par. Es que el judio es un MENA bastante europeizado geneticamente.

Entonces ellos pueden contar como de "ahuevo" como de raza blanca? Digo, por ejemplo en USA son considerados blancos y en México también si "parecen" blancos no habría problema xd

Y qué opinas de loa judíos sefardíes bro? Estarían muy abajo o muy arriba del resto de los judíos? Xd

[Rocinante]

Entonces ellos pueden contar como de "ahuevo" como de raza blanca? Digo, por ejemplo en USA son considerados blancos y en México también si "parecen" blancos no habría problema xd

Y qué opinas de loa judíos sefardíes bro? Estarían muy abajo o muy arriba del resto de los judíos? Xd

los judios sefardies son mas MENA de lo que podria ser un azhkenazi promedio, hasta donde tengo entendido, aunque ya te digo, tambien tienen un tajada de europeo y es por ello que todos se diferencian mucho de un palestino o de un sirio a leguas. Se que esto genera demasiada polemica pero para mi los judios son blancos, al menos en lo fisico. Yo no he visto un judio de piel morena, pero arabes los hay para tirar al techo.

[AlfonsoVIII]

Yo los judíos sefardíes y mizrajíes que he conocido eran totalmente indistinguibles del magrebí o árabe asiático promedio, esto claro físicamente.

[Defcon2]

los judios sefardies son mas MENA de lo que podria ser un azhkenazi promedio, hasta donde tengo entendido, aunque ya te digo, tambien tienen un tajada de europeo y es por ello que todos se diferencian mucho de un palestino o de un sirio a leguas. Se que esto genera demasiada polemica pero para mi los judios son blancos, al menos en lo fisico. Yo no he visto un judio de piel morena, pero arabes los hay para tirar al techo.

Rockcinante qué ves en esta imagen? estoy flipando :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/iY7GvWb.png

Verás cuando se entere bixajo, subirá sus tres raw data rapidito a ese sitio :p

[gixajo]

Rockcinante qué ves en esta imagen? estoy flipando :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



Verás cuando se entere bixajo, subirá sus tres raw data rapidito a ese sitio :p

Los tres no, con subir solo el mío ya me vale.

!!!Díme como se llama ese sitio ahora mismo!!!

[gixajo]

Que mala gente es este tipo, me está haciendo esperar cuando dije claramente...!!!Ahora mismo!!!

[Rocinante]

Rockcinante qué ves en esta imagen? estoy flipando :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/iY7GvWpng

Verás cuando se entere bixajo, subirá sus tres raw data rapidito a ese sitio :p

Y ese sitio? No me entero de nada, pero se ve que es una plataforma buena. Cual es?

[Defcon2]

Que mala gente es este tipo, me está haciendo esperar cuando dije claramente...!!!Ahora mismo!!!

Geneanet, aunque me suena que tu lo habías subido pero lo de los haplogrupos es nuevo para mí.


Y ese sitio? No me entero de nada, pero se ve que es una plataforma buena. Cual es?

Es Geneanet y proporciona líneas maternas/paternas.

Ahora mirad los adnmt que me da :rolleyes:

[Rocinante]

Geneanet, aunque me suena que tu lo habías subido pero lo de los haplogrupos es nuevo para mí.



Es Geneanet y proporciona líneas maternas/paternas.

Ahora mirad los adnmt que me da :rolleyes:

No soy experto en mtDNA, pero tu haplogrupo AL PARECER es comun en el norte de la Fennoscandia, asumo que es de mujeres cromañonas. No?

[Defcon2]

No soy experto en mtDNA, pero tu haplogrupo AL PARECER es comun en el norte de la Fennoscandia, asumo que es de mujeres cromañonas. No?

Según Eupedia:

"Consequently, the most likely scenario at present is that haplogroups HV0 and V, were already present in southern Europe at least from the Mesolithic period. Like several J1c and T2 subclades, they may have spent the Last Glacial Maximum in the Anatolian refugium, then re-expanded to the Balkans in the late glacial period. This is probably also the case for the majority of subclades of haplogroup H - except notably H5, H13 and H14, which are clearly Middle Eastern."

https://i.imgur.com/yz2a67j.png

HV0f: found in Sweden and Italy.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/HV0f/

[gixajo]

Geneanet, aunque me suena que tu lo habías subido pero lo de los haplogrupos es nuevo para mí.



Es Geneanet y proporciona líneas maternas/paternas.

Ahora mirad los adnmt que me da :rolleyes:

Oh oh , ahora eres escandi-nabo.

[Defcon2]

Oh oh , ahora eres escandi-nabo.

Ahora en Apricity me respetarán, por fin.

Subiste tus raw data? tardará unas horas o un día no me acuerdo.

[Rocinante]

Según Eupedia:

"Consequently, the most likely scenario at present is that haplogroups HV0 and V, were already present in southern Europe at least from the Mesolithic period. Like several J1c and T2 subclades, they may have spent the Last Glacial Maximum in the Anatolian refugium, then re-expanded to the Balkans in the late glacial period. This is probably also the case for the majority of subclades of haplogroup H - except notably H5, H13 and H14, which are clearly Middle Eastern."

https://i.imgur.com/yz2a67j.png

HV0f: found in Sweden and Italy.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/HV0f/

Tu haplogrupo materno, el que te esta arrojando, es el equivalente del I1/I2 (mas del I2, pero es casi lo mismo) en mtDNA. Son las WHG que fueron arrimadas hasta lo mas Norte de Europa por los agricultores. Tu linea materna se puede trazar hasta una mujer asi:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Scandinavian_Hunter-Gatherer.jpg

No es coña.

A mi ya me dio mis resultados, y me arroja Y-DNA: R-L151 y no me da mtDNA, obviamente.

[gixajo]

Ahora en Apricity me respetarán, por fin.

Subiste tus raw data? tardará unas horas o un día no me acuerdo.

Están subiendose, solo los míos.

Ojalá vayan un poco más lejos de lo que sé.

Gracias.:thumb001:

[gixajo]

A mi ya me dio mis resultados, y me arroja Y-DNA: R-L151 y no me da mtDNA, obviamente.

¿Está bien tu Ydna? ¿Es más o menos de lo que ya sabías?

[Defcon2]

Tu haplogrupo materno, el que te esta arrojando, es el equivalente del I1/I2 (mas del I2, pero es casi lo mismo) en mtDNA. Son las WHG que fueron arrimadas hasta lo mas Norte de Europa por los agricultores. Tu linea materna se puede trazar hasta una mujer asi:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Scandinavian_Hunter-Gatherer.jpg

No es coña.

A mi ya me dio mis resultados, y me arroja Y-DNA: R-L151 y no me da mtDNA, obviamente.

Me es familiar esa cara, tampoco es coña :rolleyes:

Joer pues qué bien, curioso el contraste entre el haplogrupo materno y el paterno que poseo :)

MyHeritage es esa empresa misógina que no proporciona mtdna los cabroncetes, lo olvidaba.

[gixajo]

Paciencia... Buscamos pariente ADN!

Puede llevar hasta 24 horas en obtener la lista completa: comparamos este ADN con los de otros usuarios de Geneanet.

Puede abandonar esta página: cuando haya nuevos resultados de parentesco, avisaremos con una notificación (en la campana arriba de la página).

[Rocinante]

¿Está bien tu Ydna? ¿Es más o menos de lo que ya sabías?

Me dejo en R-L11 (que es lo mismo que R-L151), y soy R-L21 (hay 2 SNPs de diferencia entre ellos), asi que este si no tienes los SNPs que conecten el L11 con el L21, pero en tu caso, no te va a arrojar un resultado tan especifico, por asi llamarlo.


Me es familiar esa cara, tampoco es coña :rolleyes:

Joer pues qué bien, curioso el contraste entre el haplogrupo materno y el paterno que poseo :)

MyHeritage es esa empresa misógina que no proporciona mtdna los cabroncetes, lo olvidaba.

Es bastante curioso que te de ese y no te de el tipico H que tiene toda Europa, que al parecer es de agricultoras que se enamoraron de los invasores mongoles R1.

MyHeritage en ese sentido es una mierda.

[Defcon2]

Me dejo en R-L11 (que es lo mismo que R-L151), y soy R-L21 (hay 2 SNPs de diferencia entre ellos), asi que este si no tienes los SNPs que conecten el L11 con el L21, pero en tu caso, no te va a arrojar un resultado tan especifico, por asi llamarlo.



Es bastante curioso que te de ese y no te de el tipico H que tiene toda Europa, que al parecer es de agricultoras que se enamoraron de los invasores mongoles R1.

MyHeritage en ese sentido es una mierda.

De haplogrupo raro a haplogrupo más raro voy, en fin.

Invasor mongol R1?

[Rocinante]

De haplogrupo raro a haplogrupo más raro voy, en fin.

Invasor mongol R1?

Sabes que esta el troleo de decir que los invasores indo-europeos, quienes eran R1b y R1a, son mongoles porque vinieron desde las Estepas de Rusia, por eso dije lo que dije.

[Defcon2]

Sabes que esta el troleo de decir que los invasores indo-europeos, quienes eran R1b y R1a, son mongoles porque vinieron desde las Estepas de Rusia, por eso dije lo que dije.

Venir desde las estepas de Rusia te hace ser ruso o una vaca, pero no mongol. :picard2:

[gixajo]

Venir desde las estepas de Rusia te hace ser ruso o una vaca, pero no mongol. :picard2:

"Broadly Central Asian"

[Ethel]

MyHeritage en ese sentido es una mierda.

I intend to test with 23andme this year since MyHeritage was terrible for my ethnicity breakdown
I'm really curious to know my mtDNA, it will probably be just boring H :picard1: (jk)

Do you know how deep/downstream they assign your mtDNA subclade? Is it possible to test it further with other tools using their raw data?
Also, do you know if it's possible that they're going to assign me a Y subclade even deeper than L22?

My maternal lineage comes from Triveneto btw

[gixajo]

Por cierto, he fusilado este modelo balcanita del k13 y lo he customizado añadiendo algunos samples Ibéricos:


Iberian:I12514_iberia_,36.74,10.55,23.41,0.50,19.7 0,5.07,0.00,1.00,0.00,0.63,0.06,0.17,2.17
Iberian:I12515_iberia_,34.80,9.74,23.57,2.90,19.50 ,5.52,0.00,0.84,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.09,2.37
Iberian:I12516_iberia_,34.71,8.80,28.85,2.19,17.36 ,2.97,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.68,0.06,4.01,0.00
Iberian:I12647_iberia_,29.60,9.94,29.58,2.86,19.54 ,4.91,0.00,0.00,0.53,0.00,0.35,1.96,0.75
Iberian:I1271_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,33.60,1.07,56.31,0 .00,7.48,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.54,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1272_Iberia_C_4627_ybp,35.61,0.00,57.94,0 .00,3.45,2.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1274_Iberia_C_brother.of.I1277_4573_ybp,4 3.24,0.00,50.17,0.00,4.16,0.10,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00 ,0.12,0.00,0.90
Iberian:I1277_Iberia_C_4407_ybp,39.16,0.00,54.97,0 .00,2.37,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.52,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1280_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,39.79,0.00,53.67,0 .00,1.63,2.04,0.00,1.27,0.00,0.00,1.60,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1281_Iberia_C_4670_ybp,41.26,0.00,49.94,0 .00,5.58,2.39,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.00,0.51,0.05,0.00
Iberian:I1284_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,39.49,0.00,51.14,0 .00,7.20,2.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1300_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,35.41,0.00,56.55,0 .00,4.94,2.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1303_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,36.91,0.00,55.16,0 .00,5.11,2.58,0.00,0.05,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1314_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,32.19,0.00,56.12,0 .00,9.40,0.93,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.36,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U_,45. 83,14.47,26.76,0.00,7.49,0.56,0.27,0.00,2.89,0.00, 1.24,0.49,0.00
Iberian:I3758_Celtiberian_U_,46.65,15.95,26.60,0.0 0,6.76,1.29,0.00,0.09,0.13,0.81,0.00,0.35,1.38
Iberian:I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m_,45. 53,14.51,28.31,0.00,7.72,0.44,0.00,2.67,0.00,0.00, 0.57,0.00,0.27
Iron_age_Balkan:I4332_Croatia_MBA_3516_ybp,30.68,1 3,27.73,10.03,16.07,0.6,0,1.05,0,0.21,0,0,0.64
Iron_age_Balkan:Bul6_Bulgaria_Beli_Breyag_EBA_4450 _ybp,22.05,11.26,35.23,0.72,25.07,5.42,0,0,0,0,0.2 5,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp,30.55, 21.81,20.01,8.06,12.49,5.56,0,0,0,0.17,1.35,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp,24.62,3 .48,30,9.21,28.33,4.36,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I2520_Bulgaria_EBA_5132_ybp,23.15, 16.12,30.59,0.13,25.02,3.53,0,0.35,0,0,1.12,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp,34 .15,12.62,23.19,10.39,15.71,3.56,0,0,0.38,0,0,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp,33.68,1 2.02,24.41,7.67,19.6,1.39,0,0,0,1.23,0,0,0
Roman:R132_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,13.49,0,24.28 ,1.26,35.08,12.33,0,1.72,0.41,0,0.6,8.28,2.57
Roman:R80_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,15.29,0.52,23. 55,5.43,37.6,11.68,0,0.2,0,0,0.26,4.42,1.06
Roman:R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,0.53,0,15.4,20 .48,43.2,14.76,1.31,1.03,0,0,0,3.29,0
Roman:R1547_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.97,0,17.54 ,19.13,43.1,13.27,2.48,0,0,0,0,2.51,0
Roman:R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.93,0,17.45 ,22.44,37.8,13.78,2.1,0.71,0,0.02,0.31,2.45,0
Roman:R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.7,0,21.47,17 .49,39.58,7.59,0.39,1.94,0,0.76,0.14,1.91,0.03
Roman:R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.11,0.88,12.1 2,32.7,36.78,9.27,3.73,0.37,0,0.32,0.39,1.9,0.44
Roman:R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.66,2.53,24. 25,10.61,36.68,8.16,0,1.14,0,0,1.4,1.69,0.89
Roman:R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.21,2.28,19.3 4,21.39,41.91,10.3,0,0,0,0.19,0,1.38,0
Roman:R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.62,0,22.68,2 1.74,35.29,9.37,0,0.37,0,0.21,0.47,1.25,0
Roman:R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.96,1.16,19. 72,17.3,34.38,11.41,2.22,0.01,0.03,0.19,0,1.21,0.4 1
Roman:R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.31,0,13.79,3 0.08,39.44,10.13,3.04,0,0,0,0,1.07,0.14
Roman:R1549_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,22.71,9.87,1 5.99,12.66,27.94,6.69,0.86,1.18,0,0,1.29,0.81,0
Roman:R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.62,3.3,16.77 ,23.96,38.85,10.18,1.73,0,0,0.82,0,0.77,0
Roman:R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.98,5.83,21. 98,16.85,28.76,6.43,0,0,0.29,0.72,0.51,0.64,0
Roman:R1543_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.86,0.47,1 6.98,14.67,40.12,7.56,1.33,1.13,0,0.31,0,0.57,0
Roman:R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21. 47,16.31,31.17,4.53,0,0,0,0.2,1.31,0.53,0.15
Roman:R115_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.94,4.56,21. 96,20.12,34.47,7.02,1.72,0.93,0,0,0,0.26,0
Roman:R125_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,15.24,4. 84,25.65,22.02,27.75,3.78,0,0,0,0,0.54,0.18,0
Roman:R1548_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,13.7,7.83,17 .2,21.18,31.85,6.18,0.1,0,1.17,0,0.7,0.07,0.01
Roman:R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.48,7.33,22.76, 15.83,28.17,4.29,2.11,0,0,0.18,0.49,0,1.37
Roman:R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.8,5.92,19.6 9,18.96,31.66,8.21,1.77,0.13,0,0,0,0,0.87
Roman:R126_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,6.85,0,2 1.95,22.6,37.03,8.91,0.98,0.75,0,0,0.22,0,0.71
Roman:R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,18.55,6.06,22 .93,13.3,31.22,5.99,0,1.15,0,0.4,0,0,0.4
Roman:R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.92,0,18.71,2 8.11,41.51,8.68,0,0,0,0.45,0.34,0,0.28
Roman:R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.72,0,23,19. 52,36.2,5.66,0,0.47,0.15,0,0,0,0.27
Roman:R111_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,25.73,7.27,26 .59,13.06,25.7,1.65,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Roman:R113_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,25.73,4.01,26 .05,11.36,28.27,3.92,0,0,0,0.46,0.2,0,0
Roman:R114_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.19,6.78,18 .04,19.02,29.56,7.35,0.58,0.77,0,0.7,0,0,0
Roman:R123_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,12.03,4. 13,19.45,20.54,37.07,3.99,0,0.97,0,0,1.83,0,0
Roman:R128_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,2.63,8.5 ,21.08,27.13,34.24,5.03,0,0,0,0.84,0.55,0,0
Roman:R1544_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.53,4.64,2 1.39,18.62,31.87,3.82,1.51,0,0.43,0.3,0.89,0,0
Roman:R1545_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.35,3.4,22 .3,23.93,31.78,7.44,0.06,0,0,0,0.73,0,0
Roman:R1551_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.31,0,12.6, 36.12,34.89,8.22,2.15,0.72,0,0,0,0,0
Roman:R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,9.38,2.57,24.9 7,19.78,34.82,5.66,0,1.74,0.29,0.78,0,0,0
Roman:R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.19,0,22.2,2 1.83,39.45,3.15,0.45,0,0,0.08,0.65,0,0
Roman:R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.45,0,23.48, 18.04,38.86,5.16,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Roman:R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,20.47,1.28,20. 11,15.05,34.89,5.56,0,0.17,0,0.59,1.88,0,0
Roman:R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,7.81,1.07,23.5 7,24.26,37.48,4.96,0,0,0,0,0.85,0,0
Roman:R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.48,4.41,24. 55,22.98,33.7,0.54,0,0.59,0,0.5,0.25,0,0
Roman:R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,6.09,0.06,20.3 3,24.54,44.64,3.4,0,0,0,0,0.94,0,0
Roman:R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.24,0,22.92, 19.04,41.2,5.12,0,0,0.57,0,0.91,0,0
Roman:R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.76,2.77,22.8 2,22.14,43.72,2.03,0,0.1,0,0.27,0.39,0,0
Roman:R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.54,2.43,22. 21,17.14,39.17,4.79,1.98,0,0,0,0.74,0,0
Roman:R836_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.9,4.35,25.43,1 9.62,29.98,1.61,0,0,0,0.28,0.83,0,0
Germanic:SZ13_Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_father.SZ 7_brother.SZ22_1469_ybp,51.91,27.94,8.54,6.68,0.00 ,1.86,0.46,0.00,0.00,1.60,0.70,0.30,0.00
Germanic:SZ12_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp,47.25,26. 28,10.75,7.04,5.01,0.00,1.09,0.00,0.00,0.90,1.69,0 .00,0.00
Germanic:SZ16_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp,48.77,31. 63,9.58,6.50,0.00,0.00,1.35,0.00,0.85,0.66,0.45,0. 00,0.21
Slavic:Viking_Russia_Pskov_VK159,28.62,50.38,7.63, 3.49,4.19,0.00,2.08,0.00,0.00,1.86,0.48,1.27,0.00
Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Jutland_VK340,28.29,43.29,9. 89,5.02,8.09,0.00,3.75,0.00,0.44,0.10,0.00,1.12,0. 00
Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Langeland_VK287,27.47,45.26, 8.62,7.09,7.54,0.00,1.50,0.79,1.13,0.21,0.21,0.16, 0.00
Slavic:Viking_Russia_Gnezdovo_VK272,27.10,42.86,8. 37,4.01,8.44,3.37,1.60,0.00,1.68,2.01,0.00,0.00,0. 56
Slavic:Viking_Sweden_Gotland_VK454,25.59,45.53,14. 97,2.70,4.74,0.30,0.73,2.49,0.00,0.34,1.21,1.40,0. 00
Slavic:Sunghir6_Russia_Sunghir6.SG_790_ybp,25.17,4 5.83,13.05,4.29,6.41,0.44,0.00,0.03,2.59,1.13,0.64 ,0.42,0.00
Slavic:Ukraine_Lutsk_Medieval_VK541,23.15,43.28,11 .70,7.62,7.79,1.05,1.58,0.00,1.18,0.56,0.79,0.00,1 .29
Slavic:Ukraine_Chernigov_VikingAge_VK542,22.48,43. 78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26,0.00,0.00,1.64,0.82,0.98,0 .73,0.87

Los resultados de mis padres no casan bien con los míos, pero es lo que hay.:picard1:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 2.0368% / 2.03684705
45.2 Iberian
40.2 Germanic
14.6 Roman

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 1.3878% / 1.38777711
66.2 Iberian
17.6 Roman
14.2 Germanic
2.0 Slavic

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.6184% / 1.61835483
97.2 Iberian
2.8 Germanic

***************************************
Target: gixajo
Distance: 3.7006% / 3.70060348 | ADC: 0.25x
80.8 Iberian
19.2 Iron_age_Balkan

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.6781% / 2.67814756 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Iberian

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.7932% / 1.79322259 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Iberian

[Rocinante]

I intend to test with 23andme this year since MyHeritage was terrible for my ethnicity breakdown
I'm really curious to know my mtDNA, it will probably be just boring H :picard1: (jk)

Let's not lie ourselves, MyHeritage ethnicity breakdown is the worst by far among other ethnicity breakdowns of other companies. At least their Raw Data is almost the same as the 23andme and Ancestry ones, except for theirs mtDNA SNPs.


Do you know how deep/downstream they assign your mtDNA subclade? Is it possible to test it further with other tools using their raw data?

There is no way bro :( is you tested with MyHeritage and FTDNA there is no possible way to know your mtDNA because there is no simple SNP tested in that raw data, at least they test some decent Y-DNA SNPs but yes, it sucks that they don't give us some mtDNA SNPs. The only way is testing with 23andme or LivingDNA.


Also, do you know if it's possible that they're going to assign me a Y subclade even deeper than L22?

My maternal lineage comes from Triveneto btw

Right now, your last possible clade right now will be the one that YSEQ gives you, being that tool the only Y-DNA predictor that is updated, so the only possible way that they give a deeper clade after that mammoth hunter I-L22 (funny that i am a L21) is that they discover a new mutation and you have a positive call in your raw data, something very unlike, if you ask me. For going more deep with your Y-DNA, i would say that the only way would be YSEQ Panel or FTDNA. I think i will give myself a YSEQ Panel in Christmas, but my priority is something even more valuable than myself: a brand new PS5.

[Defcon2]

Por cierto, he fusilado este modelo balcanita del k13 y lo he customizado añadiendo algunos samples Ibéricos:


Iberian:I12514_iberia_,36.74,10.55,23.41,0.50,19.7 0,5.07,0.00,1.00,0.00,0.63,0.06,0.17,2.17
Iberian:I12515_iberia_,34.80,9.74,23.57,2.90,19.50 ,5.52,0.00,0.84,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.09,2.37
Iberian:I12516_iberia_,34.71,8.80,28.85,2.19,17.36 ,2.97,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.68,0.06,4.01,0.00
Iberian:I12647_iberia_,29.60,9.94,29.58,2.86,19.54 ,4.91,0.00,0.00,0.53,0.00,0.35,1.96,0.75
Iberian:I1271_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,33.60,1.07,56.31,0 .00,7.48,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.54,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1272_Iberia_C_4627_ybp,35.61,0.00,57.94,0 .00,3.45,2.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1274_Iberia_C_brother.of.I1277_4573_ybp,4 3.24,0.00,50.17,0.00,4.16,0.10,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00 ,0.12,0.00,0.90
Iberian:I1277_Iberia_C_4407_ybp,39.16,0.00,54.97,0 .00,2.37,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.52,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1280_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,39.79,0.00,53.67,0 .00,1.63,2.04,0.00,1.27,0.00,0.00,1.60,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1281_Iberia_C_4670_ybp,41.26,0.00,49.94,0 .00,5.58,2.39,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.00,0.51,0.05,0.00
Iberian:I1284_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,39.49,0.00,51.14,0 .00,7.20,2.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1300_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,35.41,0.00,56.55,0 .00,4.94,2.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1303_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,36.91,0.00,55.16,0 .00,5.11,2.58,0.00,0.05,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I1314_Iberia_C_4573_ybp,32.19,0.00,56.12,0 .00,9.40,0.93,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.36,0.00,0.00
Iberian:I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U_,45. 83,14.47,26.76,0.00,7.49,0.56,0.27,0.00,2.89,0.00, 1.24,0.49,0.00
Iberian:I3758_Celtiberian_U_,46.65,15.95,26.60,0.0 0,6.76,1.29,0.00,0.09,0.13,0.81,0.00,0.35,1.38
Iberian:I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m_,45. 53,14.51,28.31,0.00,7.72,0.44,0.00,2.67,0.00,0.00, 0.57,0.00,0.27
Iron_age_Balkan:I4332_Croatia_MBA_3516_ybp,30.68,1 3,27.73,10.03,16.07,0.6,0,1.05,0,0.21,0,0,0.64
Iron_age_Balkan:Bul6_Bulgaria_Beli_Breyag_EBA_4450 _ybp,22.05,11.26,35.23,0.72,25.07,5.42,0,0,0,0,0.2 5,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp,30.55, 21.81,20.01,8.06,12.49,5.56,0,0,0,0.17,1.35,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp,24.62,3 .48,30,9.21,28.33,4.36,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I2520_Bulgaria_EBA_5132_ybp,23.15, 16.12,30.59,0.13,25.02,3.53,0,0.35,0,0,1.12,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp,34 .15,12.62,23.19,10.39,15.71,3.56,0,0,0.38,0,0,0,0
Iron_age_Balkan:I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp,33.68,1 2.02,24.41,7.67,19.6,1.39,0,0,0,1.23,0,0,0
Roman:R132_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,13.49,0,24.28 ,1.26,35.08,12.33,0,1.72,0.41,0,0.6,8.28,2.57
Roman:R80_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,15.29,0.52,23. 55,5.43,37.6,11.68,0,0.2,0,0,0.26,4.42,1.06
Roman:R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,0.53,0,15.4,20 .48,43.2,14.76,1.31,1.03,0,0,0,3.29,0
Roman:R1547_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.97,0,17.54 ,19.13,43.1,13.27,2.48,0,0,0,0,2.51,0
Roman:R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.93,0,17.45 ,22.44,37.8,13.78,2.1,0.71,0,0.02,0.31,2.45,0
Roman:R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.7,0,21.47,17 .49,39.58,7.59,0.39,1.94,0,0.76,0.14,1.91,0.03
Roman:R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.11,0.88,12.1 2,32.7,36.78,9.27,3.73,0.37,0,0.32,0.39,1.9,0.44
Roman:R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.66,2.53,24. 25,10.61,36.68,8.16,0,1.14,0,0,1.4,1.69,0.89
Roman:R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.21,2.28,19.3 4,21.39,41.91,10.3,0,0,0,0.19,0,1.38,0
Roman:R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.62,0,22.68,2 1.74,35.29,9.37,0,0.37,0,0.21,0.47,1.25,0
Roman:R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.96,1.16,19. 72,17.3,34.38,11.41,2.22,0.01,0.03,0.19,0,1.21,0.4 1
Roman:R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.31,0,13.79,3 0.08,39.44,10.13,3.04,0,0,0,0,1.07,0.14
Roman:R1549_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,22.71,9.87,1 5.99,12.66,27.94,6.69,0.86,1.18,0,0,1.29,0.81,0
Roman:R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.62,3.3,16.77 ,23.96,38.85,10.18,1.73,0,0,0.82,0,0.77,0
Roman:R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.98,5.83,21. 98,16.85,28.76,6.43,0,0,0.29,0.72,0.51,0.64,0
Roman:R1543_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.86,0.47,1 6.98,14.67,40.12,7.56,1.33,1.13,0,0.31,0,0.57,0
Roman:R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21. 47,16.31,31.17,4.53,0,0,0,0.2,1.31,0.53,0.15
Roman:R115_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.94,4.56,21. 96,20.12,34.47,7.02,1.72,0.93,0,0,0,0.26,0
Roman:R125_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,15.24,4. 84,25.65,22.02,27.75,3.78,0,0,0,0,0.54,0.18,0
Roman:R1548_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,13.7,7.83,17 .2,21.18,31.85,6.18,0.1,0,1.17,0,0.7,0.07,0.01
Roman:R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.48,7.33,22.76, 15.83,28.17,4.29,2.11,0,0,0.18,0.49,0,1.37
Roman:R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.8,5.92,19.6 9,18.96,31.66,8.21,1.77,0.13,0,0,0,0,0.87
Roman:R126_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,6.85,0,2 1.95,22.6,37.03,8.91,0.98,0.75,0,0,0.22,0,0.71
Roman:R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,18.55,6.06,22 .93,13.3,31.22,5.99,0,1.15,0,0.4,0,0,0.4
Roman:R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.92,0,18.71,2 8.11,41.51,8.68,0,0,0,0.45,0.34,0,0.28
Roman:R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.72,0,23,19. 52,36.2,5.66,0,0.47,0.15,0,0,0,0.27
Roman:R111_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,25.73,7.27,26 .59,13.06,25.7,1.65,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Roman:R113_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,25.73,4.01,26 .05,11.36,28.27,3.92,0,0,0,0.46,0.2,0,0
Roman:R114_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.19,6.78,18 .04,19.02,29.56,7.35,0.58,0.77,0,0.7,0,0,0
Roman:R123_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,12.03,4. 13,19.45,20.54,37.07,3.99,0,0.97,0,0,1.83,0,0
Roman:R128_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial,2.63,8.5 ,21.08,27.13,34.24,5.03,0,0,0,0.84,0.55,0,0
Roman:R1544_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.53,4.64,2 1.39,18.62,31.87,3.82,1.51,0,0.43,0.3,0.89,0,0
Roman:R1545_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.35,3.4,22 .3,23.93,31.78,7.44,0.06,0,0,0,0.73,0,0
Roman:R1551_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.31,0,12.6, 36.12,34.89,8.22,2.15,0.72,0,0,0,0,0
Roman:R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,9.38,2.57,24.9 7,19.78,34.82,5.66,0,1.74,0.29,0.78,0,0,0
Roman:R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.19,0,22.2,2 1.83,39.45,3.15,0.45,0,0,0.08,0.65,0,0
Roman:R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.45,0,23.48, 18.04,38.86,5.16,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Roman:R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,20.47,1.28,20. 11,15.05,34.89,5.56,0,0.17,0,0.59,1.88,0,0
Roman:R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,7.81,1.07,23.5 7,24.26,37.48,4.96,0,0,0,0,0.85,0,0
Roman:R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.48,4.41,24. 55,22.98,33.7,0.54,0,0.59,0,0.5,0.25,0,0
Roman:R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,6.09,0.06,20.3 3,24.54,44.64,3.4,0,0,0,0,0.94,0,0
Roman:R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.24,0,22.92, 19.04,41.2,5.12,0,0,0.57,0,0.91,0,0
Roman:R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.76,2.77,22.8 2,22.14,43.72,2.03,0,0.1,0,0.27,0.39,0,0
Roman:R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.54,2.43,22. 21,17.14,39.17,4.79,1.98,0,0,0,0.74,0,0
Roman:R836_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.9,4.35,25.43,1 9.62,29.98,1.61,0,0,0,0.28,0.83,0,0
Germanic:SZ13_Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_father.SZ 7_brother.SZ22_1469_ybp,51.91,27.94,8.54,6.68,0.00 ,1.86,0.46,0.00,0.00,1.60,0.70,0.30,0.00
Germanic:SZ12_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp,47.25,26. 28,10.75,7.04,5.01,0.00,1.09,0.00,0.00,0.90,1.69,0 .00,0.00
Germanic:SZ16_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp,48.77,31. 63,9.58,6.50,0.00,0.00,1.35,0.00,0.85,0.66,0.45,0. 00,0.21
Slavic:Viking_Russia_Pskov_VK159,28.62,50.38,7.63, 3.49,4.19,0.00,2.08,0.00,0.00,1.86,0.48,1.27,0.00
Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Jutland_VK340,28.29,43.29,9. 89,5.02,8.09,0.00,3.75,0.00,0.44,0.10,0.00,1.12,0. 00
Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Langeland_VK287,27.47,45.26, 8.62,7.09,7.54,0.00,1.50,0.79,1.13,0.21,0.21,0.16, 0.00
Slavic:Viking_Russia_Gnezdovo_VK272,27.10,42.86,8. 37,4.01,8.44,3.37,1.60,0.00,1.68,2.01,0.00,0.00,0. 56
Slavic:Viking_Sweden_Gotland_VK454,25.59,45.53,14. 97,2.70,4.74,0.30,0.73,2.49,0.00,0.34,1.21,1.40,0. 00
Slavic:Sunghir6_Russia_Sunghir6.SG_790_ybp,25.17,4 5.83,13.05,4.29,6.41,0.44,0.00,0.03,2.59,1.13,0.64 ,0.42,0.00
Slavic:Ukraine_Lutsk_Medieval_VK541,23.15,43.28,11 .70,7.62,7.79,1.05,1.58,0.00,1.18,0.56,0.79,0.00,1 .29
Slavic:Ukraine_Chernigov_VikingAge_VK542,22.48,43. 78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26,0.00,0.00,1.64,0.82,0.98,0 .73,0.87

Los resultados de mis padres no casan bien con los míos, pero es lo que hay.:picard1:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 2.0368% / 2.03684705
45.2 Iberian
40.2 Germanic
14.6 Roman

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 1.3878% / 1.38777711
66.2 Iberian
17.6 Roman
14.2 Germanic
2.0 Slavic

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.6184% / 1.61835483
97.2 Iberian
2.8 Germanic

***************************************
Target: gixajo
Distance: 3.7006% / 3.70060348 | ADC: 0.25x
80.8 Iberian
19.2 Iron_age_Balkan

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.6781% / 2.67814756 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Iberian

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.7932% / 1.79322259 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Iberian

Mis distancias son tan largas como el de G25.

Target: Juan
Distance: 3.0937% / 3.09373710
95.2 Iberian
4.8 Germanic

[gixajo]

Mis distancias son tan largas como el de G25.


Hay muchos mas samples Ibéricos que los que puse.

Por cierto, ya me salen los "familiares" en geneanet, pero no encuentro lo de los haplotipos ¿Dónde se mira eso?

[Defcon2]

Hay muchos mas samples Ibéricos que los que puse.

Por cierto, ya me salen los "familiares" en geneanet, pero no encuentro lo de los haplotipos ¿Dónde se mira eso?

En Home Page DNA o algo así.

[gixajo]

En Home Page DNA o algo así.

Sí, justo despuésde preguntar ví donde estaba:

https://i.imgur.com/0Clvs1T.png

Lo mismo que ya tenía.

[mitalit]

Como lo veis?
https://i.gyazo.com/67d756fcf73ebfba5442f511df781d33.png

Este creo que es defcon
https://i.gyazo.com/a2ec85ff00625682a3821f2c55aef984.png

[Defcon2]

Sí, justo despuésde preguntar ví donde estaba:

https://i.imgur.com/0Clvs1T.png

Lo mismo que ya tenía.

Parece ser fiable.

[Defcon2]

Como lo veis?
https://i.gyazo.com/67d756fcf73ebfba5442f511df781d33.png

Este creo que es defcon
https://i.gyazo.com/a2ec85ff00625682a3821f2c55aef984.png

Ya comparamos nuestro genoma en Gedmatch y no resultó, mentiroso.

[mitalit]

Ya comparamos nuestro genoma en Gedmatch y no resultó, mentiroso.

Yo creo que eres tu, puedes buscarme aunque tu tienes muchos mas parentescos que yo y te va a costar.

[gixajo]

Yo he borrado mi archivo.

Solo tenía una persona con puntito verde de esos 88 "familiares", y era una mujer con apellido portugués, compartía el 0.29% del adn (familiares entre 5 y 8 generaciones según ellos).

El resto (de aquellos con quienes más % compartía) eran todos guiris con apellido gabacho y british, y todos en rojo o naranja.

No parece que haya muchos españoles y portugueses ahí, ¿No?

[Defcon2]

Yo creo que eres tu, puedes buscarme aunque tu tienes muchos mas parentescos que yo y te va a costar.

No me ha costado, te he encontrado :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mitalit]

Yo he borrado mi archivo.

Solo tenía una persona con puntito verde de esos 88 "familiares", y era una mujer con apellido portugués, compartía el 0.29% del adn (familiares entre 5 y 8 generaciones según ellos).

El resto (de aquellos con quienes más % compartía) eran todos guiris con apellido gabacho y british, y todos en rojo o naranja.

No parece que haya muchos españoles y portugueses ahí, ¿No?

Yo tengo a un frances con el punto verde, probablemente también te tenga a ti como "primo". Somos tan poquitos españoles que nos marca a todos.

[gixajo]

Yo tengo a un frances con el punto verde, probablemente también te tenga a ti como "primo". Somos tan poquitos españoles que nos marca a todos.

Pues he borrado ya el archivo,¿Lo vuelvo a subir? Igual no me deja...

[Defcon2]

Yo tengo a un frances con el punto verde, probablemente también te tenga a ti como "primo". Somos tan poquitos españoles que nos marca a todos.

Si, y probablemente tenga un baremo más "laxo" que Gedmatch, aunque creo que compartíamos pero muy poco.

[mitalit]

Pues he borrado ya el archivo,¿Lo vuelvo a subir? Igual no me deja...
La verdad es que tarda muy poco en subirse, pero no hace falta. Defcon y yo lo miramos en su dia con gedmatch y no salió nada, parece que lo da al tuntun.

[gixajo]

La verdad es que tarda muy poco en subirse, pero no hace falta. Defcon y yo lo miramos en su dia con gedmatch y no salió nada, parece que lo da al tuntun.

Da igual, subo ahora el raw data de MH a ver si me da lo mismo o me da M417 o Z2125 como Morley y Cladefinder con ese raw data.

[gixajo]

Apuesto a que no me da Z282.:)

[gixajo]

Apuesto a que no me da Z282.:)

Efectivamente:

Haplogrupos (saber más) :

- linea paterna : R-M417

De tener 88 "familiares" a solo 17, esta vez , y la primera "familiar" es una francesa.

Solo hay una persona con apellidos o gallegos o españoles, una con apellido checo o eslovaco, dos alemanes y todos los demas franceses.

Un alemán se apellida...Goehring!!! Comparto: Segmentos compartidos: 1

Segmento más largo: 14.2 cM

0.19 %

:eek:

[Defcon2]

Efectivamente:


De tener 88 "familiares" a solo 17, esta vez , y la primera "familiar" es una francesa.

Solo hay una persona con apellidos o gallegos o españoles, una con apellido checo o eslovaco, dos alemanes y todos los demas franceses.

Un alemán se apellida...Goehring!!! Comparto: Segmentos compartidos: 1

Segmento más largo: 14.2 cM

0.19 %

:eek:

Parece ser una raw data peor para el haplogrupo, contiene menos snp's.

[gixajo]

Parece ser una raw data peor para el haplogrupo, contiene menos snp's.

Era de esperar, por algo ni dan haplotipos.

El Goehring es gringo, no alemán.

Y la única persona Iberica es gallega, no portuguesa.

Con solo 17 matches, tampoco se puede pedir mucho.

Parece una página usada por gabachos principalmente, no?

[gixajo]

Parece ser una raw data peor para el haplogrupo, contiene menos snp's.

Por cierto, ¿Quienes son esos de tu foto de avatar? ¿Algún grupo de música?

[Defcon2]

Era de esperar, por algo ni dan haplotipos.

El Goehring es gringo, no alemán.

Y la única persona Iberica es gallega, no portuguesa.

Con solo 17 matches, tampoco se puede pedir mucho.

Parece una página usada por gabachos principalmente, no?

Por lo menos dos gabachos han contactado conmigo para averiguar si realmente estábamos emparentados, cuanta ingenuidad. Y si es un sitio francés.


Por cierto, ¿Quienes son esos de tu foto de avatar? ¿Algún grupo de música?

Si, adivina que nombre tienen:

https://www.google.es/search?newwindow=1&hl=es&authuser=0&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=7cmMX-CSMeGjjLsPwcmIuAk&q=defcon+2&oq=defcon+2&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgQIABA eMgQIABAeMgQIABAeMgQIABAeMgQIABAeOgUIABCxAzoICAAQs QMQgwFQuwVYkh9g9yFoAnAAeACAAWeIAcQFkgEDNy4xmAEAoAE BqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ved=0ahUKEwigvcOhoL_sAhXhEWMBHcEkApcQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=tU7wRUQhrvyu1M

[gixajo]

Por lo menos dos gabachos han contactado conmigo para averiguar si realmente estábamos emparentados, cuanta ingenuidad. Y si es un sitio francés.



Si, adivina que nombre tienen:

]

Joder...Defcon2:picard1:

Si encima son de mi época.

[mitalit]

Han baneado a rocinante, lol. A angelo también, alguien sabe que ha pasado?

[FalangeAngeL JONS]

Han baneado a rocinante, lol. A angelo también, alguien sabe que ha pasado?

Lol Rocinate tambien ? Pues seguramente me terminaran borrando esta cuenta también.

Puede ser que sea porque me haya despedido antes en otro hilo con la cuenta de Angelo (diciendo que me iba a dejar el foro por un tiempo).
Sino yo le envié un mensaje a Loki diciendo que me banease las cuentas (en vez de una de las dos porque me equivoque al escribir), asi que lo mas seguro esque haya sido eso.

Lo de Rocinante me parece raro, no tengo ni idea.

Apovecho para decir adios (o hasta luego) esto ya me aburre un rato, cuando tenga mis resultados geneticos y no sepa que hacer con ellos ya sabré donde acudir:p

[Mixdguy17]

BANEARON A ROCINANTE?

[HelloGuys]

Porqué m*erda banearon a nuestro compadre Rocinante????

[AlfonsoVIII]

Don Quijote lo reclamó para continuar batallando contra malfechores y desfacer entuertos.

[gixajo]

Lol Rocinate tambien ? Pues seguramente me terminaran borrando esta cuenta también.

Puede ser que sea porque me haya despedido antes en otro hilo con la cuenta de Angelo (diciendo que me iba a dejar el foro por un tiempo).
Sino yo le envié un mensaje a Loki diciendo que me banease las cuentas (en vez de una de las dos porque me equivoque al escribir), asi que lo mas seguro esque haya sido eso.

Lo de Rocinante me parece raro, no tengo ni idea.

Apovecho para decir adios (o hasta luego) esto ya me aburre un rato, cuando tenga mis resultados geneticos y no sepa que hacer con ellos ya sabré donde acudir:p

Pues hasta otra.

[gixajo]

Que raro sí, yo hace tiempo que no le veo metido en trifulcas.

Espero a ver qué ha pasado, igual ha sido un error, si no habrá que abrir un thread de apoyo.

Como no le desbaneen , haya hecho lo que haya hecho, y a Mortimer sí, es para mosquearse.

[Defcon2]

Que raro sí, yo hace tiempo que no le veo metido en trifulcas.

Espero a ver qué ha pasado, igual ha sido un error, si no habrá que abrir un thread de apoyo.

Como no le desbaneen , haya hecho lo que haya hecho, y a Mortimer sí, es para mosquearse.

Ha sido decisión suya el ser expulsado según él, publicaré su mensaje si me da permiso.

Editado: en el grupo privado está la captura.

[gixajo]

Volviendo con la genética, ya pedí el panel correspondiente de Yseq para indagar, un poco más si se puede, en mi haplotipo raruno.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

O 23andMe tem uma nova actualização mas os meus resultados ainda não foram actualizados (testei com o chip V4). Deixo aqui por agora os resultados da minha esposa e do meu pai, os quais fizeram a prova com a versão mais recente:

Esposa:

https://i.imgur.com/HcxvcKL.png


Pai:

https://i.imgur.com/fJoraC1.png

[Defcon2]

https://i.postimg.cc/wvB6nxvn/Screenshot-2020-10-22-09-56-56-876-com-android-chrome.jpg

[mitalit]

https://i.postimg.cc/wvB6nxvn/Screenshot-2020-10-22-09-56-56-876-com-android-chrome.jpg

Que te han parecido? Yo un poco decepcionado, antes lo clavaba con mi porcentaje de italiano.
https://i.gyazo.com/4f55a6290de5cce8f851b7c0ee403cc8.png

[Defcon2]

Que te han parecido? Yo un poco decepcionado, antes lo clavaba con mi porcentaje de italiano.


Bueno, algunos pensamientos:

https://cde.peru.com//ima/0/1/0/9/0/1090877/380x300/emoticiones-emojis-excremento.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81HBuFyERFL._AC_SY355_.jpg
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2586/7104/products/caca_22e5b7de-4926-4306-bf67-385a68bfdcf3_720x.jpg?v=1573593378
https://i.imgur.com/SCuDPL5.jpg

[mitalit]

jajaja, tu nigeriano sigue con fuerza

[Defcon2]

jajaja, tu nigeriano sigue con fuerza

Eso es mi haplogrupo, el este de Europa se lo debo a una persona que es R1a :rolleyes:

[Ruderico]

Meus
https://i.postimg.cc/fb3y8nWw/23andme-october2020.png



Namorada
https://i.postimg.cc/yYr9Tz0N/23andme-october2020-2.png


O meu 5.8% French&German mantém-se inalterado a 90% confiança

[PT Tagus]

Actualizaram também os meus resultados

97.1% Iberian
2.1% SSA (1.2% a 90% de confiança)
0.6% NA

Nigga blood is real hahaha
Decepcionante lol

[Defcon2]

Meus
O meu 5.8% French&German mantém-se inalterado a 90% confiança

Tu resultado debería ser el más común de los ibéricos debido a que tenemos más cercanía con Francia junto con Italia, la referencia ibérica absorbe todo hasta el norafricano.

[Ruderico]

Tu resultado debería ser el más común de los ibéricos debido a que tenemos más cercanía con Francia junto con Italia, la referencia ibérica absorbe todo hasta el norafricano.

Pero no es ese el caso, la mayoria de los Portugueses y Españoles que he visto tienen 99-100% Ibérico. O tengo mayor cercanía a Franceses por motivos aleatorios, o hay un abuelo antiguo de Francia o asi. Desafortunadamente los matches de 23andme son una decepción.

[gixajo]

Sois todos superIbéricos.

A ver que me sale a mí.

Tengo miedo.

[gixajo]

Pues ya está...

Viejo.

https://i.imgur.com/4H1Cl73.png

Nuevo.

https://i.imgur.com/NefBGsk.png

[gixajo]

Las regiones siguen siendo las mismas.

https://i.imgur.com/5VVdVos.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Pero no es ese el caso, la mayoria de los Portugueses y Españoles que he visto tienen 99-100% Ibérico.

E é o que faz mais sentido, Portugueses com antepassados Italianos ou Franceses é raro.

[Ruderico]

Pues ya está...

Más un Ibérico de pura cepa

[gixajo]

Más un Ibérico de pura cepa

Bueno, casi, tengo también un 0.3% irlandés y un 0.3% árabe ;)

[mitalit]

Yo también estoy decepcionado, creo que esta versión ha sido una kk

puedes postearlos¿

[mitalit]

Spanish & Portuguese 98.3%
Italian 0.8%
Ashkenazi Jewish 0.2%
Native American 0.6%

Que raro el native american

[Damião de Góis]

No update for me :rolleyes:

[PT Tagus]

No update for me :rolleyes:

Apenas v5 tiveram update.

[gixajo]

Más un Ibérico de pura cepa

Con esta nueva actualización todos somos practicamente 100% Ibéricos.

No sé bien como tomarme esta nueva actualización...

[gixajo]

No update for me :rolleyes:

I can say your results aproximately:

98-100% Portuguese/Spanish
0-2.0% some from other areas of Europe to your choice:British isles/French&German/East Europe/Greek&South Italian/Scandinavian,,,etc,
0-2.0% some of other non-European areas to your choice: South Asian/North African/Sub Sahara African/Arab/Iran/Levantine/native American,,,etc.

:picard1:

[Defcon2]

I can say your results aproximately:

98-100% Portuguese/Spanish
0-2.0% some from other areas of Europe to your choice:British isles/French&German/East Europe/Greek&South Italian/Scandinavian,,,etc,
0-2.0% some of other non-European areas to your choice: South Asian/North African/Sub Sahara African/Arab/Iran/Levantine/native American,,,etc.

:picard1:

Hackeaste el algoritmo de 23andme, como es posible que sepas como funciona tan rápido? :rolleyes:

[gixajo]

Hackeaste el algoritmo de 23andme, como es posible que sepas como funciona tan rápido? :rolleyes:

Yo soy un poco tonto debido a mis ancestros árabes, así que no soy capaz de hackear el algoritmo de 23andMe.

Pero hackeé el ordenador de JamesBond007, que es muy anglo y superinteligente y él si había hackeado el algoritmo de 23andMe y lo guardaba todo en su disco duro.:rolleyes:

Los árabes somos muy tramposos...

[gixajo]

Pone:"get free reports", pero también LivingDna ponía lo mismo, y el "free report" solo te daba los resultados por continente, y había que pagar por ver algo más.

https://sequencing.com/upload-dna-data-or-order-genome-sequencing#upload-data

¿Alguno les conoce?

[mitalit]

Yo ya no lo veo tan raro, en MH me salía lo mismo y en las otras versiones de 23andme me aparecía lo mismo.
No me sería raro que tuviese un pequeño número de ancestros nativos americanos y supongo que viene por parte materna.
Pero en general esta versión no me gusta, pensé que estaban tardando porque iban a mejorarlo y tal y pues.. Sigo igual con las mismas dudas.
He acabado aprendido en que observes tus matches y saques tus conclusiones poniendo también tus resultados haciendo una media por así decirlo.
De hecho gracias a fijarme en eso sé que tengo familiares lejanos de Noruega y todos son de la misma familia por ejemplo, la verdad podría contarte todas esas hipótesis por PM si quieres.
Pues igual si que tienes algo, yo me estoy empezando a plantear que tengo algo de judío. Tienes un arbol genealogico?

[mitalit]

Yo soy un poco tonto debido a mis ancestros árabes, así que no soy capaz de hackear el algoritmo de 23andMe.

Pero hackeé el ordenador de JamesBond007, que es muy anglo y superinteligente y él si había hackeado el algoritmo de 23andMe y lo guardaba todo en su disco duro.:rolleyes:

Los árabes somos muy tramposos...

Cualquiera puede aprender a hackear, pero NADIE puede tener el IQ del gran Jamesbond007. Los españoles somos medio negros, y por ello estamos condenados desde que nacemos.

[gixajo]

Cualquiera puede aprender a hackear, pero NADIE puede tener el IQ del gran Jamesbond007. Los españoles somos medio negros, y por ello estamos condenados desde que nacemos.

Así es, esa es la cruda realidad.

Deberíamos ser capaces de admitir de una vez que somos seres inferiores, y ponernos inmediatamente al servicio de nuestros amos naturales, como Sean o el chileno ese tan británico llamado ChileRaptor, o el siríaco que nos dijo la verdad hace tiempo.

[Defcon2]

Así es, esa es la cruda realidad.

Deberíamos ser capaces de admitir de una vez que somos seres inferiores, y ponernos inmediatamente al servicio de nuestros amos naturales, como Sean o el chileno ese tan británico llamado ChileRaptor, o el siríaco que nos dijo la verdad hace tiempo.

Hay que admitir que tenemos sangre negra, al menos algunos de nosotros.

[gixajo]

Hay que admitir que tenemos sangre negra, al menos algunos de nosotros.

Sí, tan negra como los sobacos de un grillo.

[bandeirante]

Yo también estoy decepcionado, creo que esta versión ha sido una kk

Pensé que a los españoles no les gusta ser latinos! ¿Por qué les importa la sangre italiana?

[gixajo]

Hay que admitir que tenemos sangre negra, al menos algunos de nosotros.

Me los estoy pasando pipa viendo como a practicamente todos los guiris les salen componentes no europeos.;)

Algunos directamente no los ponen, y les pregunto yo donde están esos % que les falta.

[Defcon2]

Me los estoy pasando pipa viendo como a practicamente todos los guiris les salen componentes no europeos.;)

Algunos directamente no los ponen, y les pregunto yo donde están esos % que les falta.

Si, es ruidoso de la hostia, espero que la actualización siga siendo una beta o rectifiquen.

[mitalit]

Pensé que a los españoles no les gusta ser latinos! ¿Por qué les importa la sangre italiana?

??

[mitalit]

A mi los que me hacen gracia son los que se piensan que las compañías genéticas les ponen negro o judío para joder jaja

[mitalit]

jaja, gixajo esta en modo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAn7baRbhx4&ab_channel=NazNomad

en el hilo de las actualizaciones de 23andme.

[gixajo]

A mi los que me hacen gracia son los que se piensan que las compañías genéticas les ponen negro o judío para joder jaja

Ya te digo, y luego el Siríaco ese poniendo carita :rolleyes: a mi 0.3% árabe.

Le dije que mi 0.3% es probablemente más que su total europeo.

Y luego están otros como éste:


My French and German category keeps going up and the areas of Germany are now my best location matches (Baden-Württemberg, north rhine-westphalia and Lower Saxony). I also apparently became a little Spanish.

Un little Spanish del 2.9%, y en la captura casualmente falta el total europeo en % y si sumas los componentes de la captura de sus resultados casualmente falta un 0.7% de algo desconocido que tarda en postear.

Que igual es una chorrada pero después del pequeño 2.9% como disculpándose, suena sospechoso...

[gixajo]

jaja, gixajo esta en modo:
[deo]

en el hilo de las actualizaciones de 23andme.

Con todo lo que hemos soportado, y vamos a seguir soportando cada poco, tengo que hacerlo.

No me río de ellos ni me meto con ellos,porque son auténticas chorradas, pero que quede bien claro a todos que en todos los sitios se cuecen habas.

Así que quede claro, que tan chorrada es lo nuestro, como lo suyo.

[gixajo]

Y aún así, tranquilo, que seguirán diciendo que lo suyo es ruido, un error, o algo intencionado para promover la diversidad, y lo nuestro es así y punto.(800 años fuimos musulmanes!!!)

Al menos nosotros sabemos de donde podría venir, a ver ellos como lo podrían explicar.

[bandeirante]

¿Qué?

: picard1:

[Ruderico]

Con esta nueva actualización todos somos practicamente 100% Ibéricos.

No sé bien como tomarme esta nueva actualización...

Creo que es inútil para quien conoce muy bien su genealogía, sin finales de linea recientes (abandonos, etc)

[Ethel]

Estão dando Azores como top match para todos os Portugueses, decepcionante, vou morrer sem saber de quais regiões portuguesas o meu lado colonial veio. O único confirmado é o Minho.

[Ruderico]

Estão dando Azores como top match para todos os Portugueses, decepcionante, vou morrer sem saber de quais regiões portuguesas o meu lado colonial veio. O único confirmado é o Minho.

Sempre foi assim. Ao menos, no meu caso, elevaram Viseu para 4º, antes estava em 6º e devia ser claramente a primeira.
Por outro lado apagaram-me Braga (correcto) para meter Setúbal (muito errado)..enfim.

Acho que no teu caso o melhor é sempre estudar registros e a genealogia tradicional

[gixajo]

Creo que es inútil para quien conoce muy bien su genealogía, sin finales de linea recientes (abandonos, etc)

La genealogía es sin duda un muy buen instrumento, pero como hemos comentado, tampoco es 100% confiable.

Sigo pensando que ninguno de los caminos es 100% preciso, y que para acercarnos lo más posible a la realidad, tenemos que apoyarnos en una visión general de todos ellos.

Luego cada cual que le dé más peso a unos datos que a otros, según la tendencia que vea en su caso particular.

[gixajo]

These are my Portuguese matches (with 4 grandparents born in Portugal according to them) in 23andMe, if you are interested in any of their results I can show you them (if they are public).

https://i.imgur.com/esAh9x6.png

[gixajo]

I supose that women with 4 grandparents born in Portugal with foreigner surnames, took their husband´s surname but they are genetically mainly Iberian.

[Ruderico]

These are my Portuguese matches (with 4 grandparents born in Portugal according to them) in 23andMe, if you are interested in any of their results I can show you them (if they are public).

Hay alguno con más de, por ejemplo, 4 o 5% F&G o B&I? Yo aún no he visto ninguno, solo un Gallego con 3%.

[Gota_type_]

These are my Portuguese matches (with 4 grandparents born in Portugal according to them) in 23andMe, if you are interested in any of their results I can show you them (if they are public).

https://i.imgur.com/esAh9x6.png

Me da q la mitad de los de esa lista no tienen ni 2 abuelos portugueses, salvo q les guste mentir en los apellidos). Bondshu, Homen Sutton, etc, no son precisamente apellidos portugueses.

Hay q tener "cuidado" con esto de 23andme (y de otros) porque hay mucho americano q no tiene remota idea de sus antepasados y les gusta inventarse o afirman cosas en base a lo que les dijo su padre, y resulta q son falsas, etc.

Yo portugueses en 23andme solo tengo 2-3 y 4º cousin, q en realidad debe ser como 20º cousin pues los de 23andme equivocan tb lo de las fechas. Si te vas a las fechas de tus "British or French" ancestry te van a poner que es de 1800, cuando en nuestro caso sea seguramente de época celta, pero 23andme no ve más allá de 1500.

[gixajo]

Me da q la mitad de los de esa lista no tienen ni 2 abuelos portugueses, salvo q les guste mentir en los apellidos). Bondshu, Homen Sutton, etc, no son precisamente apellidos portugueses.

Hay q tener "cuidado" con esto de 23andme (y de otros) porque hay mucho americano q no tiene remota idea de sus antepasados y les gusta inventarse o afirman cosas en base a lo que les dijo su padre, y resulta q son falsas, etc.

Yo portugueses en 23andme solo tengo 2-3 y 4º cousin, q en realidad debe ser como 20º cousin pues los de 23andme equivocan tb lo de las fechas. Si te vas a las fechas de tus "British or French" ancestry te van a poner que es de 1800, cuando en nuestro caso sea seguramente de época celta, pero 23andme no ve más allá de 1500.

Ya lo dije en su momento, son mujeres. En muchos sitios al casarse pierden su apellido de soltera y adaptan el de sus maridos, y todos esos apellidos son precisamente de países donde tienen esas costumbres.

La relación conmigo es mínima, y posiblemente no tengamos ningún lazo familiar, lo interesante es poder ver sus estimaciones étnicas, porque pueden ser interesantes para los portugueses.

[gixajo]

Hay alguno con más de, por ejemplo, 4 o 5% F&G o B&I? Yo aún no he visto ninguno, solo un Gallego con 3%.

Enseguida te lo miro.

[gixajo]

Hay alguno con más de, por ejemplo, 4 o 5% F&G o B&I? Yo aún no he visto ninguno, solo un Gallego con 3%.

I could see 7/8 ethnic estimations, and 6/7 of those estimations were already updated, among updated ones,2 were less than 99-100% Iberian, and 4 practically 100% or directly 100% Iberian,among the less Iberian: one 98% Iberian and other 95%, and the restant was mainly non-european, so no place for 4-5% foreigner ancestry . :picard1:

The only whose results were not already updated is this (my results are the previous to the update too) :

https://i.imgur.com/nxU8N2M.png

And:

https://i.imgur.com/w0F74Qb.png

[Defcon2]

Hay alguno con más de, por ejemplo, 4 o 5% F&G o B&I? Yo aún no he visto ninguno, solo un Gallego con 3%.

He investigado entre los miembros portugueses con 4 abuelos de Portugal, a ver si te sirve. Estos han obtenido menos de 100% ibérico.

Ascendencia de Coimbra-Lisboa-Vila-Real-Aveiro, el más "extraño" que he encontrado en relatives.

https://i.postimg.cc/J0k4snJS/coimbralisboavila-realaveiro.png

Aveiro-Viseu-Porto.

https://i.postimg.cc/MTXG8tG6/aveiroviseuporto.png

Azores.

https://i.postimg.cc/mDqgZMcQ/azores.png

Madeira.

https://i.postimg.cc/4nR4VgQy/Madeira.png

[gixajo]

He investigado entre los miembros portugueses con 4 abuelos de Portugal, a ver si te sirve. Estos han obtenido menos de 100% ibérico.

Ascendencia de Coimbra-Lisboa-Vila-Real-Aveiro, el más "extraño" que he encontrado en relatives.


g]

Pero abre el desglose de su ascendencia europea,como con el primero, lo que quiere ver es portugueses que tengan 4-5% British o French&Germany creo.

[Defcon2]

Pero abre el desglose de su ascendencia europea,como con el primero, lo que quiere ver es portugueses que tengan 4-5% British o French&Germany creo.

Si no la he abierto es que no había nada interesante con S&P salvo el africano que si los abrí en su mayoría.

[Ruderico]

Pues, la mayoría tiene un poquito de WANA o mismo SSA. F&G o B&I es menos común

[gixajo]

Pues, la mayoría tiene un poquito de WANA o mismo SSA. F&G o B&I es menos común

Sí, pero pensaba que lo que buscabas era ver portugueses que tuvieran un porcentaje alto de f&G o B&I, lo otro más o menos es conocido de siempre, tanto en portugueses como en españoles.

Con resultados actualizados, yo creo haber visto 2 o 3 de mis matches portugueses con un 100% Ibérico, pero la nueva actualización nos ha subido a todos el Ibérico casi al 100% , así que si tienes un 4-5% de un aporte distinto, debería indicar una clara ascendencia de ese origen.

[Ruderico]

Sí, pero pensaba que lo que buscabas era ver portugueses que tuvieran un porcentaje alto de f&G o B&I, lo otro más o menos es conocido de siempre, tanto en portugueses como en españoles.

Con resultados actualizados, yo creo haber visto 2 o 3 de mis matches portugueses con un 100% Ibérico, pero la nueva actualización nos ha subido a todos el Ibérico casi al 100% , así que si tienes un 4-5% de un aporte distinto, debería indicar una clara ascendencia de ese origen.

Estoy de acuerdo, me parece poco probable que tenga un tatarabuelo Francés pero 23andme no indique ninguna región de origen.
Mi F&G es de mitad de dos cromosomas totalmente F&G. Pienso que el "smoothing" esta a transformar un "Ibérico + algo más cercano al noroeste europeo" en un cromosoma 100% F&G.

[mitalit]

The "most curious" results with 4 Portuguese grandparents


Azores
https://i.gyazo.com/c0e0aa4d566b95ddbf9a83fdec82f110.png

Evora
https://i.gyazo.com/db0b49774aff5179eecca7cd23e198b3.png

Braga
https://i.gyazo.com/0ee13a2669be0a239f44d8b902794ea9.png

Azores
https://i.gyazo.com/b3fd5cbe712bedf4ee0c393f2cd4a8e0.png

2 Beja/ 2 Branco
https://i.gyazo.com/e051706662ed5573e2e82469892f23da.png

Azores
https://i.gyazo.com/8cef36549633a24821bcb2ca611317b5.png

[alnortedelsur]

Ultima actualización de 23andme de mi madre:

https://i.imgur.com/Hgc6GlM.png

[alnortedelsur]

repetido

[HelloGuys]

Ultima actualización de 23andme de mi madre:

https://i.imgur.com/Hgc6GlM.png

Ése 1.5% MENA es por su lado italiano bro? O también por español? Xd

[alnortedelsur]

Ése 1.5% MENA es por su lado italiano bro? O también por español? Xd

supongo.

[mitalit]

Ése 1.5% MENA es por su lado italiano bro? O también por español? Xd

Pero eso es lo de menos, tiene resultados muy raros. A ver que dicen los demás

[Defcon2]

The "most curious" results with 4 Portuguese grandparents


Sangre negra en ibéricos occidentales, yo tenía razón.

[gixajo]

No pienso hacer ni un solo chiste.

[HelloGuys]

Pero eso es lo de menos, tiene resultados muy raros. A ver que dicen los demás

Perdón por la ignorancia lol pero porqué son raros? Por el alto Italiano? Norte-europeo? O algo más? Xd

[gixajo]

Perdón por la ignorancia lol pero porqué son raros? Por el alto Italiano? Norte-europeo? O algo más? Xd

Con los resultados actualizados , que a todos nos sale más de un 95% ibérico, que tenga unos porcentajes tan altos de Italiano o del Noroeste de Europa es bastante raro, sí, bastante más que el porcentaje no europeo ese.

En los resultados de antes de la actualización, no me parecerían resultados tan extremos.

[Defcon2]

Con los resultados actualizados , que a todos nos sale más de un 95% ibérico, que tenga unos porcentajes tan altos de Italiano o del Noroeste de Europa es bastante raro, sí, bastante más que el porcentaje no europeo ese.

En los resultados de antes de la actualización, no me parecerían resultados tan extremos.

Los catalanes suelen sacar más componente noreuropeo y los balearicas específicamente son medio italianos-medio catalanes, la razón de todo esto es que caen más simpático supongo.

[Gota_type_]

Sigo flipando con el alto % de norteafricano y negro q dan bastantes portugueses. No creí que fuera tanto. En España no es así ni de lejos.

La mayoría en España ni da africano (en 23andme) y si da, suele ser 0.2% o cosas así. Salvo q sean canarios (y solo algunos de ellos). Pero un 4% de norteafricano o un 1.4% de negro en Portugal?? Como eso sea lo común está claro q sí somos diferentes. Un 5% de africano sí cambia el aspecto físico (un tono quizá más oscuro, menos probabilidad de aspecto "light", etc). Siempre he dicho q los portugueses tienen un 50-60% indistinguibles de españoles prácticamente, pero tienen un 20-30% de gente q son más woggish o como se diga (más morena-borderline White). Ni aquí en Galicia damos ni de lejos esos %. En los q yo he conocido de 23andme, la mayoría damos incluso 0.00% de africano (tanto sur como norte) en 23andme, y alguno da 0.3% o cosas así, pero burradas como un 4.7%?? Tremendo.


He investigado entre los miembros portugueses con 4 abuelos de Portugal, a ver si te sirve. Estos han obtenido menos de 100% ibérico.

Ascendencia de Coimbra-Lisboa-Vila-Real-Aveiro, el más "extraño" que he encontrado en relatives.

https://i.postimg.cc/J0k4snJS/coimbralisboavila-realaveiro.png

Aveiro-Viseu-Porto.

https://i.postimg.cc/MTXG8tG6/aveiroviseuporto.png

Azores.

https://i.postimg.cc/mDqgZMcQ/azores.png

Madeira.

https://i.postimg.cc/4nR4VgQy/Madeira.png

[Ruderico]

He visto algunos tíos Americanos del noroeste europeo con North African, eso si es raro.

Entre mis matches Portuguesas la mayoría tiene cerca de 100% Ibérico, pero hay muchos con un poquito de WANA (North African) y uno o otro con trazitos de SSA. A norte y sur, aunque la mayoria de mis matches son del norte o centro norte. Igual a mis Gallegos, aunque ahí hay dos con B&I o F&G. Tengo un Leonés de pura cepa con 3,5% Italiano, un "medio Asturiano, un cuarto Leones, un cuarto Gallego" también con unas décimas de SSA, etc.

[Ethel]

Sangre negra en ibéricos occidentales, yo tenía razón.

I wonder where it comes from, it can't be from the slave trade, it's a quite recent event and the SSA is too evenly diluted and spread. Iberomaurusian and stuff?

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 1.5289% / 0.01528922
77.0 French_Midi-Pyrenees
10.4 Mozabite
9.0 Italian_Calabria
3.6 Swedish

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 1.4248% / 0.01424798
81.8 French_Midi-Pyrenees
9.4 Mozabite
4.6 Italian_Calabria
4.2 Swedish

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 1.9388% / 0.01938755
82.6 French_Midi-Pyrenees
8.8 Mozabite
8.2 Italian_Calabria
0.4 Swedish

Target: Spanish_Extremadura
Distance: 1.8048% / 0.01804775
75.6 French_Midi-Pyrenees
11.0 Italian_Calabria
10.0 Mozabite
3.4 Swedish

All of them rejected the Yoruba sample I've fed the source with.

[Cernunnos]

He visto algunos tíos Americanos del noroeste europeo con North African, eso si es raro.

Entre mis matches Portuguesas la mayoría tiene cerca de 100% Ibérico, pero hay muchos con un poquito de WANA (North African) y uno o otro con trazitos de SSA. A norte y sur, aunque la mayoria de mis matches son del norte o centro norte. Igual a mis Gallegos, aunque ahí hay dos con B&I o F&G. Tengo un Leonés de pura cepa con 3,5% Italiano, un "medio Asturiano, un cuarto Leones, un cuarto Gallego" también con unas décimas de SSA, etc.

So your 5% French is most likely an ancient source or bogus?

[Ruderico]

I wonder where it comes from, it can't be from the slave trade, it's a quite recent event and the SSA is too evenly diluted and spread. Iberomaurusian and stuff?

Why not? I've seen plenty of marriage and baptismal records of "negros livres" and slaves' children. It isn't far fetched some of them managed to have offspring that survived to this day.
It's not really evenly distributed, if anything these results are showing how random they are.
https://i.postimg.cc/ssYTqnsn/k7.png


So your 5% French is most likely an ancient source or bogus?
5.8%
It's probably just random northwest-like DNA and the "smoothing" technology they are employing

[gixajo]

He visto algunos tíos Americanos del noroeste europeo con North African, eso si es raro.

Entre mis matches Portuguesas la mayoría tiene cerca de 100% Ibérico, pero hay muchos con un poquito de WANA (North African) y uno o otro con trazitos de SSA. A norte y sur, aunque la mayoria de mis matches son del norte o centro norte. Igual a mis Gallegos, aunque ahí hay dos con B&I o F&G. Tengo un Leonés de pura cepa con 3,5% Italiano, un "medio Asturiano, un cuarto Leones, un cuarto Gallego" también con unas décimas de SSA, etc.

Sinceramente, creo que por mucho que nos haya subido el Ibérico a todos, me parece una actualización muy extraña.

[Damião de Góis]

Sigo flipando con el alto % de norteafricano y negro q dan bastantes portugueses. No creí que fuera tanto. En España no es así ni de lejos.

La mayoría en España ni da africano (en 23andme) y si da, suele ser 0.2% o cosas así. Salvo q sean canarios (y solo algunos de ellos). Pero un 4% de norteafricano o un 1.4% de negro en Portugal?? Como eso sea lo común está claro q sí somos diferentes. Un 5% de africano sí cambia el aspecto físico (un tono quizá más oscuro, menos probabilidad de aspecto "light", etc). Siempre he dicho q los portugueses tienen un 50-60% indistinguibles de españoles prácticamente, pero tienen un 20-30% de gente q son más woggish o como se diga (más morena-borderline White). Ni aquí en Galicia damos ni de lejos esos %. En los q yo he conocido de 23andme, la mayoría damos incluso 0.00% de africano (tanto sur como norte) en 23andme, y alguno da 0.3% o cosas así, pero burradas como un 4.7%?? Tremendo.

Ai está. O campeão da nordicidade. Em espanha já sabemos que não há gente "woggish".

[Ethel]

Why not? I've seen plenty of marriage and baptismal records of "negros livres" and slaves' children. It isn't far fetched some of them managed to have offspring that survived to this day.
It's not really evenly distributed, if anything these results are showing how random they are.
https://i.postimg.cc/ssYTqnsn/k7.png

Yes, they're random, I meant that they seem evenly distributed among those who have it, I've never seen anything out of the 0~2%

[gixajo]

Why not? I've seen plenty of marriage and baptismal records of "negros livres" and slaves' children. It isn't far fetched some of them managed to have offspring that survived to this day.
It's not really evenly distributed, if anything these results are showing how random they are.
https://i.postimg.cc/ssYTqnsn/k7.png


5.8%
It's probably just random northwest-like DNA and the "smoothing" technology they are employing

Don't you think it could be because there has been more movement of people both to and from America and your African colonies, than in the case of Spain with its colonies?

That is to say, not black slaves mixed with Portugueses in Portugal, but Portuguese who had lived in the colonies for some time, even several generations, and returned already mixed from there.

Or they went to the colonies for a time, married people who had been in the colonies for several generations and already had some foreign contribution, and returned married.

Just to offer more options, without invalidating what you said about former slaves etc.

[Cernunnos]

Ai está. O campeão da nordicidade. Em espanha já sabemos que não há gente "woggish".

Os que não são nordicos são canários. xD

[Ruderico]

Because slavery was forbidden in the 1700s, an ancestor from that far back would only leave small traces today



Don't you think it could be because there has been more movement of people both to and from America and your African colonies, than in the case of Spain with its colonies?

That is to say, not black slaves mixed with Portugueses in Portugal, but Portuguese who had lived in the colonies for some time, even several generations, and returned already mixed from there.

Or they went to the colonies for a time, married people who had been in the colonies for several generations and already had some foreign contribution, and returned married.

Just to offer more options, without invalidating what you said about former slaves etc.

Maybe, but I've yet to see ancient marriage records of people back migrating, so I assume that wasn't very common

[gixajo]

Os que não são nordicos são canários. xD

Los canarios suelen ser rubios.

https://i.imgur.com/ux7ZQoR.jpg

[Ethel]

Because slavery was forbidden in the 1700s, an ancestor from that far back would only leave small traces today

Why do some spaniards score it too tho?

[Cernunnos]

Don't you think it could be because there has been more movement of people both to and from America and your African colonies, than in the case of Spain with its colonies?

That is to say, not black slaves mixed with Portugueses in Portugal, but Portuguese who had lived in the colonies for some time, even several generations, and returned already mixed from there.

Or they went to the colonies for a time, married people who had been in the colonies for several generations and already had some foreign contribution, and returned married.

Just to offer more options, without invalidating what you said about former slaves etc.

The first record of black slaves in Portugal dates back to 1444, in Lagos, Algarve. They kept going here for forced labour, for the next centuries, not in the percentages or numbers of the Americas but in some cases enough to make a little genetic inpact (1-3%).

I have this teory that minor SSA is mostly present in Portuguese living in the coast or with a familiar background from the coast, I for example have only family from inland Portugal tracing all back to a minor village in central Portugal quite close to the Spanish border, and I score 0% SSA in most calculators, or very minor (0,3-0,6%).

[gixajo]

Because slavery was forbidden in the 1700s, an ancestor from that far back would only leave small traces today




Maybe, but I've yet to see ancient marriage records of people back migrating, so I assume that wasn't very common

And people that came back to metropoli after the independence of colonies, from Brazil, or later from Angola, Mozambique etc...?

For example,something similar to "pieds noirs" in France after Algerian independence happened?

[Cernunnos]

And people that came back to metropoli after the independence of colonies, from Brazil, or later from Angola, Mozambique etc...?

For example,something similar to "pieds noirs" in France after Algerian independence happened?

We had that after 1975 with the independence of the African colonies, 1 million Portuguese returned to Portugal (some of them never went there and were already born in Africa, like my mom). There were some cases were biracial couples and mulattos and even black couples came to as retornados, but they were a minority. Many men had mulatto children out of the wedlock and left them in Angola since it would be a scandal to bring mulatto children with your wife who you cheated. Many children there never met their Portuguese fathers.

As to colonials returning to Portugal, I only know of the Brazilian colonial elites who used to go to Portugal to study in Coimbra, other than that I don't think they had an interest in moving back to Portugal, but there might be a few cases, but it would be known if there was a big reverse migration between the 17th and the 19th centuries.

[Ruderico]

And people that came back to metropoli after the independence of colonies, from Brazil, or later from Angola, Mozambique etc...?

For example,something similar to "pieds noirs" in France after Algerian independence happened?

Yes, that happened after 1974 with the independence of African countries, but I've never seen records of people returning after the independence of Brazil. Although, to be fair, with the exception of the abandoned great-great-grandmother from the city of Porto all my ancestry is from small poor rural areas no one gave a crap about, so that's what I'm familiar with.

[mitalit]

Perdón por la ignorancia lol pero porqué son raros? Por el alto Italiano? Norte-europeo? O algo más? Xd

Con la nueva actualización los ibéricos solemos sacar como poco 95% iberico.

[mitalit]

He puesto resultados atípicos de portugueses, la mayoría sacaban 100% ibérico. También puedo poner una buena cantidad de españoles con SSA

[Defcon2]

He puesto resultados atípicos de portugueses, la mayoría sacaban 100% ibérico. También puedo poner una buena cantidad de españoles con SSA

Con razón a 23andme le costaba separar el componente ibérico del norteafricano al principio, en buena parte (mitad occidental) somos muy parecidos.

[mitalit]

Con razón a 23andme le costaba separar el componente ibérico del norteafricano al principio, en buena parte somos muy parecidos.

Bueno, directamente añade una cantidad de componente norteafricano al ibérico. Todos tenemos norteafricano pero supongo que si detectan componente mas reciente o que es mas elevado al normal te ponen de mas.
"Now, a small North African genetic signature is present in Iberian DNA"

[Defcon2]

Bueno, directamente añade una cantidad de componente norteafricano al ibérico. Todos tenemos norteafricano pero supongo que si detectan componente mas reciente o que es mas elevado al normal te ponen de mas.
"Now, a small North African genetic signature is present in Iberian DNA"

Supongo que sucederá lo mismo con el SSA, si tienes más elevado que el promedio pondrán más.

[mitalit]

Supongo que sucederá lo mismo con el SSA, si tienes más elevado que el promedio pondrán más.
Yo creo que ese SSA viene del norteafricano, me parece muy raro que tanta gente tenga ascendencia esclava (algunos puede que si, pero tantos españoles y portugueses?)

[Ruderico]

No son así tantos, cifras de décimas no son muy fiables, yo no les daría importancia ninguna si las tuviera...pero hay personas con más de 1% o 2% SSA, eso ya me parece sospecho

[gixajo]

No son así tantos, cifras de décimas no son muy fiables, yo no les daría importancia ninguna si las tuviera...pero hay personas con más de 1% o 2% SSA, eso ya me parece sospecho

Una cosa por la que tengo curiosidad, y que no sabía que fuera así.

Parece que los isleños de las islas Azores, dan porcentajes muy altos de Ibérico, a la par o incluso superiores que los portugueses peninsulares.¿Es así o simplemente es casualidad que los resultados que he visto con gente procedente de allí sean así? ¿Serán de islas específicas los individuos que he visto?

¿Ha sido tradicionalmente una población aislada que ha recibido pocos aportes a lo largo del tiempo?

Al ser una escala en el viaje Atlántico, siempre pensé que habría tenido mucha gente de paso, y que habría recibido muchos aportes genéticos de muchos sitios diferentes.

[Damião de Góis]

Una cosa por la que tengo curiosidad, y que no sabía que fuera así.

Parece que los isleños de las islas Azores, dan porcentajes muy altos de Ibérico, a la par o incluso superiores que los portugueses peninsulares.¿Es así o simplemente es casualidad que los resultados que he visto con gente procedente de allí sean así? ¿Serán de islas específicas los individuos que he visto?

¿Ha sido tradicionalmente una población aislada que ha recibido pocos aportes a lo largo del tiempo?

Al ser una escala en el viaje Atlántico, siempre pensé que habría tenido mucha gente de paso, y que habría recibido muchos aportes genéticos de muchos sitios diferentes.

They received a somewhat diverse population.


Os documentos históricos revelam que os Açores foram povoados sobretudo por portugueses, e as regiões do Algarve, Alentejo e Minho eram destacadas como fornecedoras de colonos. Também foi relatada a presença de povoadores oriundos do arquipélago da Madeira, assim como de indivíduos de origem judaica. A presença de pessoas oriundas de outros países da Europa também é relatada, com particular destaque para povoadores flamengos, que terão tido maior presença nas ilhas centrais, especialmente na Ilha do Faial. A presença de escravos (mouriscos e negros) também é amplamente documentada. As linhagens tipicamente africanas encontradas nos habitantes dos Açores, apesar da frequência reduzida, são as mais elevadas dentro da população portuguesa, o que denota uma possível maior integração dos escravos negros na população açoriana.[13]

[Ruderico]

Una cosa por la que tengo curiosidad, y que no sabía que fuera así.

Parece que los isleños de las islas Azores, dan porcentajes muy altos de Ibérico, a la par o incluso superiores que los portugueses peninsulares.¿Es así o simplemente es casualidad que los resultados que he visto con gente procedente de allí sean así? ¿Serán de islas específicas los individuos que he visto?

¿Ha sido tradicionalmente una población aislada que ha recibido pocos aportes a lo largo del tiempo?

Al ser una escala en el viaje Atlántico, siempre pensé que habría tenido mucha gente de paso, y que habría recibido muchos aportes genéticos de muchos sitios diferentes.

Pienso que la mayoría de los Portugueses que he visto con 100% son continentales

[Ruderico]

Más resultados de Portugueses continentales

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10054-Portuguese-23andme-DNA-results&p=712983#post712983

[gixajo]

Modelo para españoles ;)


Aurresku,0.1269285,0.1500810,0.0535063,0.0072880,0 .0537083,0.0009608,-0.0019258,0.0012988,0.0286640,0.0413368,-0.0061703,0.0106948,-0.0200193,-0.0154678,0.0163075,0.0005363,-0.0097013,0.0024428,-0.0006958,-0.0034038,0.0078353,0.0012740,-0.0072508,-0.0062288,0.0026890
Sardana,0.1207793,0.1470767,0.0429077,0.0023664,0. 0443871,0.0001286,-0.0003850,0.0024959,0.0211227,0.0303188,-0.0018974,0.0075706,-0.0149453,-0.0122403,0.0081858,0.0011649,-0.0012282,0.0002061,-0.0002128,-0.0012959,0.0035517,-0.0001865,-0.0022194,-0.0027701,0.0001983
Flamenco,0.108132,0.146076,0.035707,-0.003434,0.045256,-0.005857,-0.00193,0.00266,0.024715,0.031162,-0.002154,0.007272,-0.013207,-0.011408,0.010243,-0.002498,-0.006176,-0.0011,-0.004261,-0.002133,0.002929,-0.001302,-0.001972,-0.005334,0.001885
Muñeira,0.108765,0.146462,0.041064,-0.001651,0.041204,-9.3e-05,-0.005457,0.002423,0.024713,0.030029,-0.002129,0.005737,-0.012611,-0.012157,0.011144,0.000589,-0.004237,-0.002161,-0.005042,-0.001007,0.000873,-0.002899,-0.000808,-0.003682,0.001304

Aurresku,=Spanish_Navarra,+Spanish_Pais_Vasco,+Bas que_French,+Basque_Spanish,
Sardana=Spanish_Barcelones,+Spanish_Camp_de_Tarrag ona,+Spanish_Cataluna,+Spanish_Catalunya_Central,+ Spanish_Girona,+Spanish_Lleida,+Spanish_Penedes,+S panish_Peri-Barcelona,+Spanish_Pirineu,+Spanish_Terres_de_l'Eb re,
Flamenco,=Spanish_Andalucia
Muñeira=Spanish_Galicia

[mitalit]

A mí no me lo han detectado, pero ni en la actualización ni en los antiguos resultados, osea en el antiguo resultado me lo marcó en que era pasajero y que era prácticamente nulo.
Lo normal es no tener, el componente ibérico ya lleva norteafricano

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.7054% / 0.02705381
63.6 Sardana
36.4 Muñeira

[gixajo]

Modelo para españoles ;)


Aurresku,0.1269285,0.1500810,0.0535063,0.0072880,0 .0537083,0.0009608,-0.0019258,0.0012988,0.0286640,0.0413368,-0.0061703,0.0106948,-0.0200193,-0.0154678,0.0163075,0.0005363,-0.0097013,0.0024428,-0.0006958,-0.0034038,0.0078353,0.0012740,-0.0072508,-0.0062288,0.0026890
Sardana,0.1207793,0.1470767,0.0429077,0.0023664,0. 0443871,0.0001286,-0.0003850,0.0024959,0.0211227,0.0303188,-0.0018974,0.0075706,-0.0149453,-0.0122403,0.0081858,0.0011649,-0.0012282,0.0002061,-0.0002128,-0.0012959,0.0035517,-0.0001865,-0.0022194,-0.0027701,0.0001983
Flamenco,0.108132,0.146076,0.035707,-0.003434,0.045256,-0.005857,-0.00193,0.00266,0.024715,0.031162,-0.002154,0.007272,-0.013207,-0.011408,0.010243,-0.002498,-0.006176,-0.0011,-0.004261,-0.002133,0.002929,-0.001302,-0.001972,-0.005334,0.001885
Muñeira,0.108765,0.146462,0.041064,-0.001651,0.041204,-9.3e-05,-0.005457,0.002423,0.024713,0.030029,-0.002129,0.005737,-0.012611,-0.012157,0.011144,0.000589,-0.004237,-0.002161,-0.005042,-0.001007,0.000873,-0.002899,-0.000808,-0.003682,0.001304

Aurresku,=Spanish_Navarra,+Spanish_Pais_Vasco,+Bas que_French,+Basque_Spanish,
Sardana=Spanish_Barcelones,+Spanish_Camp_de_Tarrag ona,+Spanish_Cataluna,+Spanish_Catalunya_Central,+ Spanish_Girona,+Spanish_Lleida,+Spanish_Penedes,+S panish_Peri-Barcelona,+Spanish_Pirineu,+Spanish_Terres_de_l'Eb re,
Flamenco,=Spanish_Andalucia
Muñeira=Spanish_Galicia

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6318% / 0.01631820
46.8 Sardana
27.4 Flamenco
25.8 Aurresku


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0699% / 0.02069862
85.8 Flamenco
7.4 Muñeira
5.2 Sardana
1.6 Aurresku


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0181% / 0.02018108
61.2 Aurresku
33.2 Muñeira
4.8 Flamenco
0.8 Sardana

jo sóc català!!!:eek:

[Defcon2]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6318% / 0.01631820
46.8 Sardana
27.4 Flamenco
25.8 Aurresku


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0699% / 0.02069862
85.8 Flamenco
7.4 Muñeira
5.2 Sardana
1.6 Aurresku


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0181% / 0.02018108
61.2 Aurresku
33.2 Muñeira
4.8 Flamenco
0.8 Sardana

jo sóc català!!!:eek:

Yo soy más andalú que tu padre :eek:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.0607% / 0.03060709
100.0 Flamenco

[gixajo]

Y......



Voy a ir quitando referencias a la media catalana, ¿Cuáles crees que serían las más representativas para determinar ese origen?

[gixajo]

Las sources de modern populations empiezan a aburrir, es dar siempre vueltas a lo mismo.

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.1228% / 0.03122844
88.2 Muñeira
11.8 Flamenco

Pues mira que si! Bailo y toco muñeira/muiñeira galega, muiñeira sanabresa y muinheira/murinheira transmontana :cool:

[Defcon2]

Voy a ir quitando referencias a la media catalana, ¿Cuáles crees que serían las más representativas para determinar ese origen?

Empezaría quitando las de Cataluña interior o demasiado nórdicas como la de Penedés que representarán alrededor del 10% de la población catalana.

[gixajo]

Empezaría quitando las de Cataluña interior o demasiado nórdicas como la de Penedés que representarán alrededor del 10% de la población catalana.

Pues empcé mirando las referencias catalanas para ver cuales quitaba y cuales no, comparando su aporte germanico etc...y al final acabé haciendo un modelo "antiguo".

Es más o menos lo de siempre, lo hice mirando la lista de distancias a mis referencias customizadas, y eligiendo las que veía más adecuadas dentro de las primeras.

Si me dáis el visto bueno, le abro un thread. (y si no, igual también) :rolleyes:


Anatolian:TUR_IA,0.08992,0.060932,-0.009428,-0.032946,-0.022158,-0.013945,0.003055,0.006,-0.020861,-0.004009,-0.003573,0.000749,0.012636,0.002615,-0.001357,-0.001724,0.006519,0.006208,0.004148,-0.002001,-0.004617,0.001978,-0.002835,0.00012,-0.002036
Berber:MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
EastAsian:CHN_Upper_Yellow_River_IA,0.0258,-0.4458177,0.010308,-0.0622313,0.0420593,0.0190577,0.004857,-0.000846,-0.0067493,0.0095367,-0.0801117,-0.009092,0.0137263,-0.0054593,-0.0126673,-0.001149,0.005128,-0.00152,-0.0018437,-0.0074203,0.0062807,0.010428,0.0073123,0.000241,0. 007504
Iberian:Iberia_East_IA,0.1244941,0.1489018,0.05647 39,0.0021802,0.0598572,-0.0031725,-0.0036426,0.0044711,0.0299882,0.0468802,-0.0047092,0.0111088,-0.0233585,-0.0145191,0.0078549,0.0056351,0.0067799,0.0016153, 0.0038024,-0.0010318,0.0055682,-9.26e-05,-0.007364,-0.0123961,-0.0011226
Iberian:Iberia_North_IA,0.125205,0.1431895,0.06505 3,0.0114665,0.058011,0.003347,-0.0034075,0.0045,0.026077,0.034989,-0.002192,0.0088425,-0.0169475,-0.0085325,0.0107215,6.65e-05,-0.008279,0.0008865,-0.000126,-0.00075,0.0082355,0.0023495,-0.0070865,-0.0118085,-0.0061075
Iranic:IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA,0.095611,0.111708,-0.069767,-0.036176,-0.047393,0.003626,-0.00235,-0.001846,-0.043155,-0.019499,0.003897,-0.002997,0.008771,0.002615,0.00095,0.009679,-0.010561,0.012922,0.006788,-0.003627,-0.003868,-0.013107,-0.004067,-0.004699,0.007664
Italic/Greek:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0 .0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474
Italic/Greek:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Italic/Greek:IND_Roopkund_B,0.109384,0.1441036,-0.0095788,-0.0392122,0.0108327,-0.0131915,-0.0014805,-0.000323,-0.0031702,0.0152531,0.0005522,0.0020532,-0.0028098,0.0030278,-0.0142372,-0.001233,0.0084097,0.0002153,0.0011942,-0.0045772,-0.0027825,0.0013355,-0.0012449,-0.0001686,-0.0009581
Germanic/Celtic:England_IAI0156,0.132035,0.138112,0.057699, 0.053295,0.038776,0.017291,0.001645,0.003,0.007976 ,0.00328,-0.00682,0.005845,-0.015609,-0.017478,0.025108,0.011403,0.001434,-0.005194,-0.000754,0.006503,0.00836,-0.005812,-0.004437,0.013496,-0.005029
Germanic/Celtic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.04877 3,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Levant:Beirut_IAIII,0.0879282,0.1524565,-0.0486488,-0.0910456,-0.0101942,-0.0317236,-0.0037306,-0.0098649,0.010124,0.0135538,0.0061304,-0.0041964,0.0116699,0.0030104,-0.0105864,0.0012099,1.64e-05,0.0007285,0.0025766,-0.0008755,0.0024332,0.0045751,-0.0034355,-0.0011446,-0.0020656
Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0 .057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.00429 5,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305, 0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0. 046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0 .060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.0014 32,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
SSA:COG_Kindoki_230BP,-0.6231815,0.058393,0.019422,0.018088,0.0007695,0.0 133865,-0.007168,0.0170765,-0.035587,0.017495,0.0048715,-0.002248,-0.0031215,-0.0052985,-0.0021715,0.0088835,-0.0058675,-0.004941,-0.0042735,0.0078785,0.0061765,-0.0012985,0.002465,-0.0030125,0.0029935

[Defcon2]

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.1853% / 0.03185255
57.8 Iberian
33.0 Italic/Greek
3.8 Germanic/Celtic
3.0 Berber
1.6 SSA
0.8 EastAsian

[Cernunnos]

Modelo para españoles ;)


Aurresku,0.1269285,0.1500810,0.0535063,0.0072880,0 .0537083,0.0009608,-0.0019258,0.0012988,0.0286640,0.0413368,-0.0061703,0.0106948,-0.0200193,-0.0154678,0.0163075,0.0005363,-0.0097013,0.0024428,-0.0006958,-0.0034038,0.0078353,0.0012740,-0.0072508,-0.0062288,0.0026890
Sardana,0.1207793,0.1470767,0.0429077,0.0023664,0. 0443871,0.0001286,-0.0003850,0.0024959,0.0211227,0.0303188,-0.0018974,0.0075706,-0.0149453,-0.0122403,0.0081858,0.0011649,-0.0012282,0.0002061,-0.0002128,-0.0012959,0.0035517,-0.0001865,-0.0022194,-0.0027701,0.0001983
Flamenco,0.108132,0.146076,0.035707,-0.003434,0.045256,-0.005857,-0.00193,0.00266,0.024715,0.031162,-0.002154,0.007272,-0.013207,-0.011408,0.010243,-0.002498,-0.006176,-0.0011,-0.004261,-0.002133,0.002929,-0.001302,-0.001972,-0.005334,0.001885
Muñeira,0.108765,0.146462,0.041064,-0.001651,0.041204,-9.3e-05,-0.005457,0.002423,0.024713,0.030029,-0.002129,0.005737,-0.012611,-0.012157,0.011144,0.000589,-0.004237,-0.002161,-0.005042,-0.001007,0.000873,-0.002899,-0.000808,-0.003682,0.001304

Aurresku,=Spanish_Navarra,+Spanish_Pais_Vasco,+Bas que_French,+Basque_Spanish,
Sardana=Spanish_Barcelones,+Spanish_Camp_de_Tarrag ona,+Spanish_Cataluna,+Spanish_Catalunya_Central,+ Spanish_Girona,+Spanish_Lleida,+Spanish_Penedes,+S panish_Peri-Barcelona,+Spanish_Pirineu,+Spanish_Terres_de_l'Eb re,
Flamenco,=Spanish_Andalucia
Muñeira=Spanish_Galicia

Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.9379% / 0.01937878
60.8 Muñeira
22.8 Flamenco
9.4 Aurresku
7.0 Sardana

[Cernunnos]

Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.8556% / 0.01855636
75.8 Galaico-Portuguese
14.0 Basque
10.2 Castillian





Galaico-Portuguese: Portuguese,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Galaico-Portuguese:Spanish_Galicia,0.1087643,0.1464619,0.0 410642,-0.0016509,0.0412043,-9.29e-05,-0.0054572,0.0024231,0.0247133,0.0300285,-0.0021291,0.0057365,-0.0126113,-0.0121567,0.0111441,0.0005893,-0.0042375,-0.0021607,-0.0050418,-0.0010076,0.0008734,-0.002899,-0.0008079,-0.0036818,0.0013038
Castillian:Spanish_Soria,0.121791,0.1421745,0.0499 685,0.0075905,0.0475475,0.001255,-0.0029375,-0.001269,0.0206565,0.0374495,-0.010474,0.01139,-0.017393,-0.0228455,0.0114005,0.0145185,0.01356,-0.002914,-0.0040855,-0.0006875,-0.000312,-0.001422,-0.003759,-0.0059045,-0.0020955
Castillian:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,0.1155305,0. 1480135,0.040352,-0.00323,0.0420845,-0.004811,-0.0017038,0.0017308,0.024645,0.0339415,-0.0021108,0.008692,-0.015275,-0.012386,0.010281,-0.0010605,-0.0060302,-0.00019,-0.0001257,-0.000688,0.005459,0.0014837,-0.0010477,-0.003886,-0.0010778
Basque:Basque_Spanish,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.058286 2,0.0090081,0.0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Basque:Basque_French,0.128051,0.1520246,0.0551727, 0.0128231,0.0564104,0.0025099,-0.00141,0.0033229,0.0305968,0.0412036,-0.0092724,0.0103408,-0.0209761,-0.0140237,0.0132192,-0.0019359,-0.0119173,0.0030278,-0.0007165,-0.0044144,0.010157,0.0024855,-0.0086397,-0.0091698,7.18e-05
Catalan:Spanish_Barcelones,0.1192866,0.1490798,0.0 45707,0.0046512,0.0459162,0.0033466,0.0032432,0.00 3646,0.0208614,0.0296314,-0.0041572,0.0070438,-0.014331,-0.0092206,0.007763,-0.0004244,-0.006102,-0.0001016,0.0023632,-0.0035268,0.0035686,-4.96e-05,-0.0039932,-0.003639,0.0015326
Catalan:Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona,0.1190875,0.1444 591,0.0421904,0.0020995,0.0442004,-0.0006624,-0.0022031,0.0014423,0.0202734,0.0278592,0.0016238, 0.0059946,-0.0130262,-0.0132119,0.0076174,0.0024861,-0.0017439,0.0010928,-0.0008014,0.0003282,0.0015598,0.0026122,-0.0009399,-0.0049104,-0.0007334

[gixajo]

Ta.........ian


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.5511% / 0.01551124
37.2 Galaico-Portuguese
30.2 Basque
28.0 Catalan
4.6 Castillian

[Defcon2]

Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.8556% / 0.01855636
75.8 Galaico-Portuguese
14.0 Basque
10.2 Castillian

Raw data pésima en distancias.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.2249% / 0.03224873
90.6 Galaico-Portuguese
9.4 Basque

[Ruderico]

Solamente no son buenas referencias para ti, el scaling no ayuda en eso



Target: Ruderico_scaled
Distance: 2.7948% / 0.02794756
74.4 Galaico-Portuguese
25.4 Castillian
0.2 Basque (lol)


Target: MrsRuderico_scaled
Distance: 2.3652% / 0.02365185
100.0 Galaico-Portuguese

[Defcon2]

Solamente no son buenas referencias para ti, el scaling no ayuda en eso



Target: Ruderico_scaled
Distance: 2.7948% / 0.02794756
74.4 Galaico-Portuguese
25.4 Castillian
0.2 Basque (lol)


Target: MrsRuderico_scaled
Distance: 2.3652% / 0.02365185
100.0 Galaico-Portuguese

Son solo ibéricas no debería haber problemas de distancia y hay mucha diferencia entre coodernadas.