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Gota_type_
02-11-2020, 10:55 AM
Just on the fact that Basques don't score any genetic affinity to the Guanche Berbers while other Spaniards do points out that there had been admixture between Berbers and the native Iberians besides the Basques. Lol, no. No European group score any Berber admixture besides Iberians and some Southern Italians.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/htmlview?pli=1
Those are Eurogenes K15 averages. I was looking for K13 and others where it just says "Northafrican" but I haven´t found it, but it says the same. ALL Europeans average North-african, being northwest or northeast. So, how do you explain that in Austria they score northeast african or even subsaharan?? IT IS OBVIOUS that it is just common ancestry and not really mixing.
And it is the same for the rest of European countries. So, when did the north-east northafricans went to live to Austria or Germany? Never. The same for Spain with north-west africans. Yesterday I saw some youtube videos in which MONGOLIAN show their DNA test and it says they had FINLAND "admixture". Can you realize that it is just COMMON ANCESTRY and not real admixture? Can you get the differences? So, Spain "northafrican" is in reality old common ancestry between all caucasoid groups and all european countries have it. Nothing to do with admixture: old or new.
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 10:57 AM
30% SE European, your 25% Sicilian is really strong.
I think my other 3/4 Iberian part could be a bit southeastern too, also that 6~7% NA could come from both sides. Dude this G25 rocks, it's very interesting.
Kamal900
02-11-2020, 10:58 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/htmlview?pli=1
Those are Eurogenes K15 averages. I was looking for K13 and others where it just says "Northafrican" but I haven´t found it, but it says the same. ALL Europeans average North-african, being northwest or northeast. So, how do you explain that in Austria they score northeast african or even subsaharan?? IT IS OBVIOUS that it is just common ancestry and not really mixing.
And it is the same for the rest of European countries. So, when did the north-east northafricans went to live to Austria or Germany? Never. The same for Spain with north-west africans. Yesterday I saw some youtube videos in which MONGOLIAN show their DNA test and it says they had FINLAND "admixture". Can you realize that it is just COMMON ANCESTRY and not real admixture? Can you get the differences? So, Spain "northafrican" is in reality old common ancestry between all caucasoid groups and all european countries have it. Nothing to do with admixture: old or new.
Show me their G25 results and then we'll talk since the gedmatch spreadsheets are outdated for the most part. Use ancient average G25 spreadsheets each Spanish group and then we'll talk.
Samnium
02-11-2020, 11:02 AM
I think my other 3/4 Iberian part could be a bit southeastern too, also that 6~7% NA could come from both sides. Dude this G25 rocks, it's very interesting.
Yes the NA is likely a combination of the two. You can model you with Eurogenes k13 populations by the way. Like it could do a breakdown between your different origins.
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 11:03 AM
Yes the NA is likely a combination of the two. You can model you with Eurogenes k13 populations by the way. Like it could do a breakdown between your different origins.
With G25 coords? How? I'm a noob on this haha
gixajo
02-11-2020, 01:13 PM
No tengo el g25, pero sí que hice , gracias a vuestras indicacioens, el k15 de vahaduo.
Aunque no me parece nada acertado.
https://i.postimg.cc/6Qsxsf6y/vahaduov15new.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tszMWPxj)images host add (https://postimages.org/)
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 01:15 PM
No tengo el g25, pero sí que hice , gracias a vuestras indicacioens, el k15 de vahaduo.
Aunque no me parece nada acertado.
https://i.postimg.cc/6Qsxsf6y/vahaduov15new.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tszMWPxj)images host add (https://postimages.org/)
Pon siempre ciclo x16 e intenta con dist x0 y x0.25
gixajo
02-11-2020, 01:20 PM
Pon siempre ciclo x16 e intenta con dist x0 y x0.25
No toqué nada de eso, estaba así y así lo dejé. Luego trasteé cambiando cosas, pero solo hice captura de lo primero que me salió.
¿Para qué cambiar esos parámetros?
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 01:28 PM
No toqué nada de eso, estaba así y así lo dejé. Luego trasteé cambiando cosas, pero solo hice captura de lo primero que me salió.
¿Para qué cambiar esos parámetros?
Aumentar los ciclos te da mas precisión en el resultado. Lo del margen de distancia recomiendan hacerlo asi, con 0.00 y 0.25 porque a veces es mas preciso uno del otro.
mitalit
02-11-2020, 01:32 PM
https://gyazo.com/063480ce959c3dbbcb7705afbac37528 https://gyazo.com/2a45921d4cf8ab13976d7dd973ee9ba0
mitalit
02-11-2020, 01:33 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/063480ce959c3dbbcb7705afbac37528.png https://i.gyazo.com/2a45921d4cf8ab13976d7dd973ee9ba0.png
gixajo
02-11-2020, 01:39 PM
Cambiados esos parámetros:
https://i.postimg.cc/6qCMFgcQ/vahak15.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7JY12Bpv)
mitalit
02-11-2020, 05:52 PM
With G25 coords? How? I'm a noob on this haha
Te has pillado el g25?
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 06:01 PM
Te has pillado el g25?
Si tío, es la hostia. Me esta gustando mucho, ando como un niño con juguete nuevo jajaja.
mitalit
02-11-2020, 06:05 PM
Si tío, es la hostia. Me esta gustando mucho, ando como un niño con juguete nuevo jajaja. Cuanto cuesta? Parece muy acertado en tu firma no?
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 06:06 PM
Cuanto cuesta? Parece muy acertado en tu firma no?
Yo diría que uno de los más acertados sabiendo lo que se de mi familia. Cuesta 12 eur, casi igual que el test de LM que estas esperando. Ambos valen la pena.
mitalit
02-11-2020, 07:10 PM
Yo diría que uno de los más acertados sabiendo lo que se de mi familia. Cuesta 12 eur, casi igual que el test de LM que estas esperando. Ambos valen la pena. Pues creo que tambien me lo voy a pillar jajajm, me puedes decir donde lo has comprado?
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 07:17 PM
Pues creo que tambien me lo voy a pillar jajajm, me puedes decir donde lo has comprado?
Si claro, te lo explico al privado, creo que el gixajo se lo va a pillar también jajaja.
mitalit
02-11-2020, 07:19 PM
Si claro, te lo explico al privado, creo que el gixajo se lo va a pillar también jajaja. Bien, muchas gracuas
gixajo
02-11-2020, 07:29 PM
Si claro, te lo explico al privado, creo que el gixajo se lo va a pillar también jajaja.
No quiero por ahora hacer más gastos en esto, pero lo tengo apuntado para un futuro.
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 07:37 PM
No quiero por ahora hacer más gastos en esto, pero lo tengo apuntado para un futuro.
Hay una vida por delante todavia. Cuando te lo saques, lo que haya aprendido, lo explico con gusto, igual Spaniard 2.0 que ese antes de que termine el dia ya lo va a tener.
mitalit
02-11-2020, 07:39 PM
Hay una vida por delante todavia. Cuando te lo saques, lo que haya aprendido, lo explico con gusto, igual Spaniard 2.0 que ese antes de que termine el dia ya lo va a tener.
Ojala jajaj, ya se lo he pedido. Igual yo tampoco debería gastarme tanto dinero en esto pero es un hobby como cualquier otro. Como comprar un juego o ir al cine.
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 07:46 PM
Ojala jajaj, ya se lo he pedido. Igual yo tampoco debería gastarme tanto dinero en esto pero es un hobby como cualquier otro. Como comprar un juego o ir al cine.
Vamos, esto es como las drogas, al primer test, te jodes porque vas a querer hacer los demas jajaja. Espera a que te den el G25 que es para locos.
mitalit
02-11-2020, 07:46 PM
Pues ya le he pagado, 4,18 usd de tarifa me cobra paypal. Que pillos
Rocinante
02-11-2020, 08:01 PM
Pues ya le he pagado, 4,18 usd de tarifa me cobra paypal. Que pillos
Coño... te lo cobro en USD o EUR? a mi fueron 12 EUR
mitalit
02-11-2020, 08:02 PM
Coño... te lo cobro en USD o EUR? a mi fueron 12 EUR En dolares
Cristiano viejo
02-12-2020, 02:01 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/htmlview?pli=1
Those are Eurogenes K15 averages. I was looking for K13 and others where it just says "Northafrican" but I haven´t found it, but it says the same. ALL Europeans average North-african, being northwest or northeast. So, how do you explain that in Austria they score northeast african or even subsaharan?? IT IS OBVIOUS that it is just common ancestry and not really mixing.
... El trabajo consistió en un análisis genómico de cuatro individuos del norte de Portugal y el sur de España, que van desde el Medio Neolítico a la Edad de Bronce, en los que detectaron además ADN africano en su genoma nuclear, informaron integrantes del equipo a la agencia SINC.
“Nuestros resultados constatan, por primera vez, la existencia de contacto y flujo génico desde África a la Península Ibérica hace unos 4.000 años, probablemente a través del estrecho de Gibraltar. Se demuestra, por tanto, que la presencia de diversidad genética africana en la composición genómica de la población ibérica actual es muy anterior a la presencia islámica en la Península”, declara González Fortes.
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/3574861/0/cordobeses-hace-4000-anos-tenian-genes-africanos/#xtor=AD-15&xts=467263
mitalit
02-12-2020, 08:05 AM
En dolares Pues ya lo tengo me recomiendas alguno?
mitalit
02-12-2020, 08:15 AM
Coño... te lo cobro en USD o EUR? a mi fueron 12 EUR
G25
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soyyo nono
Hey! I want the G25
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David Wesolowski
a usuario
hace 1 horaDetalles
Here are your G25 coordinates...
,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Xabier_scaled,0.114961,0.138112,0.042992,0.003876, 0.038469,-0.00251,0.001175,0.006231,0.015953,0.027153,-0.008607,0.006444,-0.01888,-0.015827,0.012893,0,0.007171,-0.012922,-0.001006,0.004377,-0.001996,-0.000124,0.003944,0.006145,0.006227
,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Xabier,0.0101,0.0136,0.0114,0.0012,0.0125,-0.0009,0.0005,0.0027,0.0078,0.0149,-0.0053,0.0043,-0.0127,-0.0115,0.0095,0,0.0055,-0.0102,-0.0008,0.0035,-0.0016,-0.0001,0.0032,0.0051,0.0052
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 1.9711% / 0.01971082
46.2 Spanish_Soria
24.2 Italian_Liguria
17.0 Irish
5.4 Spanish_Asturias
3.4 Moroccan
3.0 Italian_Basilicata
0.8 Roma_Granada
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.0470% / 0.02047010 | ADC: 0.25x
37.4 Spanish_Soria
26.8 Portuguese
22.8 Italian_Liguria
12.0 Irish
0.6 Roma_Granada
0.4 Moroccan
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2696% / 0.02269645 | ADC: 0.5x
34.0 Portuguese
22.2 Spanish_Soria
19.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
17.6 Spanish_Girona
6.0 Spanish_Mallorca
0.4 Irish
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5266% / 0.02526624 | ADC: 1x
62.4 Spanish_Girona
35.4 Spanish_Mallorca
2.2 Portuguese
Rocinante
02-12-2020, 08:16 AM
Pues ya lo tengo me recomiendas alguno?
Me hubieras quoteado directamente. Comienza con las de Vahaduo, la pagina tienes calculadoras para el G25, recuerda que hay scaled y unscaled, tienes que usar las respectivas. Haz la de world 25 nicola scaled y posteala
mitalit
02-12-2020, 08:17 AM
Me hubieras quoteado directamente. Comienza con las de Vahaduo, la pagina tienes calculadoras para el G25, recuerda que hay scaled y unscaled, tienes que usar las respectivas. Haz la de world 25 nicola scaled y posteala
Me he quoteado a mí mismo sin querer jaja, luego las posteo a ver qué me sale. Por ahora esas son las distancias
Rocinante
02-12-2020, 08:22 AM
Me he quoteado a mí mismo sin querer jaja, luego las posteo a ver qué me sale. Por ahora esas son las distancias
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5374% / 0.02537406
66.6 SouthwestEuropean
24.0 NorthwestEuropean
8.2 SoutheastEuropean
0.8 EastAsianHan
0.4 NortheastAsian
Ese es tu resultado, ve creyendote lo del pariente holandes porque esto no miente, y ese southeasteuro significa italiano o griego, por lo tanto atinó ahí también.
mitalit
02-12-2020, 08:27 AM
Me hubieras quoteado directamente. Comienza con las de Vahaduo, la pagina tienes calculadoras para el G25, recuerda que hay scaled y unscaled, tienes que usar las respectivas. Haz la de world 25 nicola scaled y posteala
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5374% / 0.02537406
66.6 SouthwestEuropean
24.0 NorthwestEuropean
8.2 SoutheastEuropean
0.8 EastAsianHan
0.4 NortheastAsian
Ese es tu resultado, ve creyendote lo del pariente holandes porque esto no miente, y ese southeasteuro significa italiano o griego, por lo tanto atinó ahí también. es muy curioso
en vez de detectarme zonas del norte de África me detecta zonas de asia. Solo soy un 1/16 italiano es muy fuerte esa parte
Rocinante
02-12-2020, 08:38 AM
es muy curioso
en vez de detectarme zonas del norte de África me detecta zonas de asia. Solo soy un 1/16 italiano es muy fuerte esa parte
Lo que creo que pocas calculadoras que te van a sacar del NA porque, como parcialmente vasco que eres, tendrás muy poco, a gixajo tampoco le sale casi nada, a mi si me sale mas del average porque mi familia es toda del noroeste de la península y la parte italiana pues evidentemente algo tendrá.
Pero fíjate que 1/16 esta cerquita de ese 8.2% de italiano, joder esto atina.
mitalit
02-12-2020, 09:48 AM
Lo que creo que pocas calculadoras que te van a sacar del NA porque, como parcialmente vasco que eres, tendrás muy poco, a gixajo tampoco le sale casi nada, a mi si me sale mas del average porque mi familia es toda del noroeste de la península y la parte italiana pues evidentemente algo tendrá.
Pero fíjate que 1/16 esta cerquita de ese 8.2% de italiano, joder esto atina.
Atina un montón jajja
gixajo
02-12-2020, 10:13 AM
... El trabajo consistió en un análisis genómico de cuatro individuos del norte de Portugal y el sur de España, que van desde el Medio Neolítico a la Edad de Bronce, en los que detectaron además ADN africano en su genoma nuclear, informaron integrantes del equipo a la agencia SINC.
“Nuestros resultados constatan, por primera vez, la existencia de contacto y flujo génico desde África a la Península Ibérica hace unos 4.000 años, probablemente a través del estrecho de Gibraltar. Se demuestra, por tanto, que la presencia de diversidad genética africana en la composición genómica de la población ibérica actual es muy anterior a la presencia islámica en la Península”, declara González Fortes.
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/3574861/0/cordobeses-hace-4000-anos-tenian-genes-africanos/#xtor=AD-15&xts=467263
Nadie ha dicho que los genes africanos no estén aquí antes de la invasión musulmana, lo que algunos discutimos es el porcentaje de aporte que hubo en esa época del total que los actuales españoles llevamos.
Ese artículo, y cualquier artículo de prensa sobre estos temas suelen ser malísimos. No deberíamos poner artículos de prensa como prueba de nada, hasta el titular parece de broma.
mitalit
02-12-2020, 12:17 PM
Outdated. In all of the G25 results of Spaniards from all the regions score significant Berber admixture with the exception of the Basques. Gedmatch is outdated in today's standards.
Pleas, Can you tell me an g25 calculator to see if i have a significant Berber admixture?
Kamal900
02-12-2020, 12:19 PM
Pleas, Can you tell me an g25 calculator to see if i have a significant Berber admixture?
You can look for the spreadsheets from Eurogenes. The title is called "getting the most out of G25", and there you can download all of the spreadsheets that you need to calculate your ancestry and so on. You can also use the R program here, though I had forgot the threads so you need to do some searching here.
mitalit
02-12-2020, 12:22 PM
You can look for the spreadsheets from Eurogenes. The title is called "getting the most out of G25", and there you can download all of the spreadsheets that you need to calculate your ancestry and so on. You can also use the R program here, though I had forgot the threads so you need to do some searching here.
Thanks, I'm going to look
Rocinante
02-12-2020, 12:23 PM
You can look for the spreadsheets from Eurogenes. The title is called "getting the most out of G25", and there you can download all of the spreadsheets that you need to calculate your ancestry and so on. You can also use the R program here, though I had forgot the threads so you need to do some searching here.
But you can use the spreadsheets with vahaduo, right?
Kamal900
02-12-2020, 12:28 PM
But you can use the spreadsheets with vahaduo, right?
Of course you can, yes.
samario
02-13-2020, 03:23 AM
Qué es eso de g25
gixajo
02-13-2020, 10:37 AM
Qué es eso de g25
Algo similar a un k15 o k13 pero en vez de con 15 o 13 coordenadas basadas en poblaciones diferentes, con 25.Esas coordenadas luego las puedes meter en diferentes calculadoras y te dan pronósticos étnicos y todo eso.
Lo malo es que hay que pagar por saber cuales son las tuyas.
samario
02-14-2020, 09:38 PM
Toppo es enemigo de la Hispanoesfera, tiene ganas infinitas de recrear el Al-Andalus y tiene problemas controlando sus impulsos violentos.
gixajo
02-14-2020, 09:40 PM
Toppo es enemigo de la Hispanoesfera, tiene ganas infinitas de recrear el Al-Andalus y tiene problemas controlando sus impulsos violentos.
Todo el mundo tiene derecho a fantasear con cosas imposibles.
mitalit
02-14-2020, 09:47 PM
Toppo es enemigo de la Hispanoesfera, tiene ganas infinitas de recrear el Al-Andalus y tiene problemas controlando sus impulsos violentos.
Lol jaja
samario
02-14-2020, 10:01 PM
Por cierto, me he puesto a leer algunas de las páginas.
A mi ingreso al foro tampoco me esperaba ciertas actitudes y discusiones o comentarios. Sabía que era una comunidad europea pero no con el enfoque que algunos usuarios le dan. Los españoles como Cristiano Viejo, Duffman, etc. tienen unas visiones muy peculiares para mí, aunque las de Cristiano viejo son las más ostracistas y radicales. A veces cuesta tomar en serio algunos de los posts. De plano algunos españoles no suelen ser amistosos.
De los latinoamericanos, creo que los más amistosos han sido los venezolanos y los argentinos, no sé si se me escape otro colectivo.
A decir verdad, la relación entre venezolanos y colombianos puede ser tensa en el mundo real. Es algo muy relativo y dependerá del escenario, ni hablar de la política.
Sin embargo, alnortedelsur y Northern Sudaca me han parecido muy amistosos. Si todos los venezolanos fueran como ellos, nos llevaríamos muy bien los colombianos con ellos. La realidad es que Colombia tiene muchos haters en Venezuela. A alnortedelsur lo invito a mi ciudad para que conozca de primera mano lo que es la Costa colombiana pues a juzgar por algunos de sus posts desconoce mucho sobre la región. Yo nunca he estado en Venezuela, pero es increíble todo lo que él comenta sobre los costeños y demás. En algún post dijo que en Venezuela había colombianos costeños que eran 50% o más SSA. xD
Ese mestizaje de por sí es algo sumamente raro en la Costa.
Por otro lado, siendo éste un foro europeo, pienso que la mayoría de los latinoamericanos que aquí participan son eurofílicos. Habrá unos que no pero creo que distan mucho de ser la mayoría.
gixajo
02-14-2020, 10:18 PM
Por cierto, me he puesto a leer algunas de las páginas.
A mi ingreso al foro tampoco me esperaba ciertas actitudes y discusiones o comentarios. Sabía que era una comunidad europea pero no con el enfoque que algunos usuarios le dan. Los españoles como Cristiano Viejo, Duffman, etc. tienen unas visiones muy peculiares para mí, aunque las de Cristiano viejo son las más ostracistas y radicales. A veces cuesta tomar en serio algunos de los posts. De plano algunos españoles no suelen ser amistosos.
De los latinoamericanos, creo que los más amistosos han sido los venezolanos y los argentinos, no sé si se me escape otro colectivo.
A decir verdad, la relación entre venezolanos y colombianos puede ser tensa en el mundo real. Es algo muy relativo y dependerá del escenario, ni hablar de la política.
Sin embargo, alnortedelsur y Northern Sudaca me han parecido muy amistosos. Si todos los venezolanos fueran como ellos, nos llevaríamos muy bien los colombianos con ellos. La realidad es que Colombia tiene muchos haters en Venezuela. A alnortedelsur lo invito a mi ciudad para que conozca de primera mano lo que es la Costa colombiana pues a juzgar por algunos de sus posts desconoce mucho sobre la región. Yo nunca he estado en Venezuela, pero es increíble todo lo que él comenta sobre los costeños y demás. En algún post dijo que en Venezuela había colombianos costeños que eran 50% o más SSA. xD
Ese mestizaje de por sí es algo sumamente raro en la Costa.
Por otro lado, siendo éste un foro europeo, pienso que la mayoría de los latinoamericanos que aquí participan son eurofílicos. Habrá unos que no pero creo que distan mucho de ser la mayoría.
No creo que la actitud de esas personas sea la mayoritaria con los sudamericanos en España. Posiblemente hasta esas personas si te tuvieran de frente te tratarían totalmente normal. tambiém es cierto que yo vivo en un entrono algo diferente y trato con poca gente que pueda tener ideas supremacistas de ese tipo, al menos nacionalistas españolas.Igual fuera de esta zona resulta que sí es habitual gente así.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 12:56 AM
Estimado Gixajo:
Aquí están mis exámenes tal cuál prometi que publicaría:
Ancestry.com
https://i.imgur.com/MiR2YSk.png
LIVINGDNA
https://i.imgur.com/pbyEIje.png
K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 37
2 West_Med 25.89
3 North_Sea 18.91
4 East_Med 6.72
5 Amerindian 3.83
6 West_Asian 2.4
7 Eastern_Euro 2.04
8 Southeast_Asian 1
9 Sub-Saharan 0.6
10 Red_Sea 0.54
11 South_Asian 0.53
12 Oceanian 0.53
13 Baltic 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 7.67
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.68
3 Spanish_Cantabria 8.78
4 Spanish_Valencia 9.65
5 Southwest_French 9.85
6 Spanish_Andalucia 10.22
7 French_Basque 10.43
8 Spanish_Murcia 10.96
9 Spanish_Extremadura 11.69
10 Spanish_Cataluna 11.72
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.77
12 Portuguese 12.92
13 Spanish_Galicia 14.54
14 North_Italian 17.1
15 French 18.24
16 South_Dutch 21.97
17 Tuscan 22.54
18 Southwest_English 23.57
19 Southeast_English 24.76
20 West_German 25.4
Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.2% Spanish_Aragon + 2.8% Karitiana @ 6.78
2 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% Mayan @ 6.81
3 97% Spanish_Aragon + 3% Anzick-1 @ 6.82
4 97% Spanish_Aragon + 3% Pima @ 6.84
5 52.2% French_Basque + 47.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.96
6 54.8% French_Basque + 45.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7
7 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% North_Amerindian @ 7.01
8 71.8% Spanish_Aragon + 28.2% French_Basque @ 7.04
9 60.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 39.5% French_Basque @ 7.09
10 58.6% French_Basque + 41.4% Portuguese @ 7.11
11 60% Spanish_Cantabria + 40% French_Basque @ 7.21
12 51% Spanish_Andalucia + 49% French_Basque @ 7.35
13 63% French_Basque + 37% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.41
14 67.8% French_Basque + 32.2% North_Italian @ 7.43
15 97.7% Spanish_Aragon + 2.3% East_Greenlander @ 7.44
16 54.3% Spanish_Valencia + 45.7% French_Basque @ 7.46
17 97.9% Spanish_Aragon + 2.1% West_Greenlander @ 7.52
18 85.1% French_Basque + 14.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 7.56
19 55.5% French_Basque + 44.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.58
20 74.8% French_Basque + 25.2% Tuscan @ 7.61
Y aquí mi K36 que en algunos sentidos me gusta mucho esta calculadora porque deja menos residuales ruidosos.
Amerindian 3.62 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 22.84 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.82 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.66 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 0.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.99 Pct
French 4.27 Pct
Iberian 25.18 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.48 Pct
Italian 12.39 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.75 Pct
North_African 1.03 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.95 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.10 Pct
North_Sea 2.76 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.19 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.35 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.20 Pct
Luego agregaré más.:thumb001:
alnortedelsur
02-15-2020, 02:47 AM
Por cierto, me he puesto a leer algunas de las páginas.
A mi ingreso al foro tampoco me esperaba ciertas actitudes y discusiones o comentarios. Sabía que era una comunidad europea pero no con el enfoque que algunos usuarios le dan. Los españoles como Cristiano Viejo, Duffman, etc. tienen unas visiones muy peculiares para mí, aunque las de Cristiano viejo son las más ostracistas y radicales. A veces cuesta tomar en serio algunos de los posts. De plano algunos españoles no suelen ser amistosos.
De los latinoamericanos, creo que los más amistosos han sido los venezolanos y los argentinos, no sé si se me escape otro colectivo.
A decir verdad, la relación entre venezolanos y colombianos puede ser tensa en el mundo real. Es algo muy relativo y dependerá del escenario, ni hablar de la política.
Sin embargo, alnortedelsur y Northern Sudaca me han parecido muy amistosos. Si todos los venezolanos fueran como ellos, nos llevaríamos muy bien los colombianos con ellos. La realidad es que Colombia tiene muchos haters en Venezuela. A alnortedelsur lo invito a mi ciudad para que conozca de primera mano lo que es la Costa colombiana pues a juzgar por algunos de sus posts desconoce mucho sobre la región. Yo nunca he estado en Venezuela, pero es increíble todo lo que él comenta sobre los costeños y demás. En algún post dijo que en Venezuela había colombianos costeños que eran 50% o más SSA. xD
Ese mestizaje de por sí es algo sumamente raro en la Costa.
Por otro lado, siendo éste un foro europeo, pienso que la mayoría de los latinoamericanos que aquí participan son eurofílicos. Habrá unos que no pero creo que distan mucho de ser la mayoría.
Es que yo no quise decir que TODOS los Colombianos de la costa Atlántica son 50% SSA o mas. Yo se que es una región heterogénea, y de hecho, se muy bien que desde Barranquilla y Santa Marta hacia la frontera con Venezuela hay menos genética Africana que desde Cartagena hacia Panamá y la costa Pacífica, y que en Barranquilla y Santa Marta hay también un buen número de mestizos, trircaciales con mas carga Amerindia y Europea que Africana, incluso algunos blancos, gente de origen Libanés, etc. El problema es que gran parte de los costeños colombianos que han emigrado a Venezuela son de entre los mas pobres y con mas carga Africana. A eso es lo que me refería.
Por otro lado, gracias por las agradables palabras para referirte a mi y a Celtibero Italico :)
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:58 AM
Por cierto, me he puesto a leer algunas de las páginas.
A mi ingreso al foro tampoco me esperaba ciertas actitudes y discusiones o comentarios. Sabía que era una comunidad europea pero no con el enfoque que algunos usuarios le dan. Los españoles como Cristiano Viejo, Duffman, etc. tienen unas visiones muy peculiares para mí, aunque las de Cristiano viejo son las más ostracistas y radicales. A veces cuesta tomar en serio algunos de los posts. De plano algunos españoles no suelen ser amistosos.
De los latinoamericanos, creo que los más amistosos han sido los venezolanos y los argentinos, no sé si se me escape otro colectivo.
A decir verdad, la relación entre venezolanos y colombianos puede ser tensa en el mundo real. Es algo muy relativo y dependerá del escenario, ni hablar de la política.
Sin embargo, alnortedelsur y Northern Sudaca me han parecido muy amistosos. Si todos los venezolanos fueran como ellos, nos llevaríamos muy bien los colombianos con ellos. La realidad es que Colombia tiene muchos haters en Venezuela. A alnortedelsur lo invito a mi ciudad para que conozca de primera mano lo que es la Costa colombiana pues a juzgar por algunos de sus posts desconoce mucho sobre la región. Yo nunca he estado en Venezuela, pero es increíble todo lo que él comenta sobre los costeños y demás. En algún post dijo que en Venezuela había colombianos costeños que eran 50% o más SSA. xD
Ese mestizaje de por sí es algo sumamente raro en la Costa.
Por otro lado, siendo éste un foro europeo, pienso que la mayoría de los latinoamericanos que aquí participan son eurofílicos. Habrá unos que no pero creo que distan mucho de ser la mayoría.
Muchas gracias por haber mencionado nuestro colectivo también, estimado Samario.
No solemos estar entre los más apreciados, pero en este foro, aunque con algunas excepciones me he encontrado con mucha gente muy empática en ese sentido! :D
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 08:28 AM
Por cierto, me he puesto a leer algunas de las páginas.
A mi ingreso al foro tampoco me esperaba ciertas actitudes y discusiones o comentarios. Sabía que era una comunidad europea pero no con el enfoque que algunos usuarios le dan. Los españoles como Cristiano Viejo, Duffman, etc. tienen unas visiones muy peculiares para mí, aunque las de Cristiano viejo son las más ostracistas y radicales. A veces cuesta tomar en serio algunos de los posts. De plano algunos españoles no suelen ser amistosos.
De los latinoamericanos, creo que los más amistosos han sido los venezolanos y los argentinos, no sé si se me escape otro colectivo.
A decir verdad, la relación entre venezolanos y colombianos puede ser tensa en el mundo real. Es algo muy relativo y dependerá del escenario, ni hablar de la política.
Sin embargo, alnortedelsur y Northern Sudaca me han parecido muy amistosos. Si todos los venezolanos fueran como ellos, nos llevaríamos muy bien los colombianos con ellos. La realidad es que Colombia tiene muchos haters en Venezuela. A alnortedelsur lo invito a mi ciudad para que conozca de primera mano lo que es la Costa colombiana pues a juzgar por algunos de sus posts desconoce mucho sobre la región. Yo nunca he estado en Venezuela, pero es increíble todo lo que él comenta sobre los costeños y demás. En algún post dijo que en Venezuela había colombianos costeños que eran 50% o más SSA. xD
Ese mestizaje de por sí es algo sumamente raro en la Costa.
Por otro lado, siendo éste un foro europeo, pienso que la mayoría de los latinoamericanos que aquí participan son eurofílicos. Habrá unos que no pero creo que distan mucho de ser la mayoría.
Gracias samario, ya era hora para que aparecieras por aquí paisa.
Me pareces también un tipo extremadamente amable y educado al discutir, al igual que siempre pongo de ejemplo a alnorte, con el cual he podido discutir en un pasado pero siempre con respeto, no tenemos que estar de acuerdo en todo para discutir y disfrutar de la discusión sin problemas.
Hay foristas de la península que son extremadamente radicales, aunque tengo que decir que de esos que nombras, Duffmannn es salvable porque al menos es respetuoso, sus ideas son iguales que los de los más radicales pero como dije anteriormente no tenemos que estar de acuerdo en todo. Los otros que nombraste, no es ni necesario que haga mención.
Lo único que ha puesto en jaque la hermandad entre la hermandad colombo-venezolana son los putos políticos de mi país y las basuras que han podido emigrar entre nuestros países y ha manchado el gentilicio.
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 08:39 AM
Estimado Gixajo:
Aquí están mis exámenes tal cuál prometi que publicaría:
Ancestry.com
https://i.imgur.com/MiR2YSk.png
LIVINGDNA
https://i.imgur.com/pbyEIje.png
K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 37
2 West_Med 25.89
3 North_Sea 18.91
4 East_Med 6.72
5 Amerindian 3.83
6 West_Asian 2.4
7 Eastern_Euro 2.04
8 Southeast_Asian 1
9 Sub-Saharan 0.6
10 Red_Sea 0.54
11 South_Asian 0.53
12 Oceanian 0.53
13 Baltic 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 7.67
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.68
3 Spanish_Cantabria 8.78
4 Spanish_Valencia 9.65
5 Southwest_French 9.85
6 Spanish_Andalucia 10.22
7 French_Basque 10.43
8 Spanish_Murcia 10.96
9 Spanish_Extremadura 11.69
10 Spanish_Cataluna 11.72
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.77
12 Portuguese 12.92
13 Spanish_Galicia 14.54
14 North_Italian 17.1
15 French 18.24
16 South_Dutch 21.97
17 Tuscan 22.54
18 Southwest_English 23.57
19 Southeast_English 24.76
20 West_German 25.4
Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.2% Spanish_Aragon + 2.8% Karitiana @ 6.78
2 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% Mayan @ 6.81
3 97% Spanish_Aragon + 3% Anzick-1 @ 6.82
4 97% Spanish_Aragon + 3% Pima @ 6.84
5 52.2% French_Basque + 47.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.96
6 54.8% French_Basque + 45.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7
7 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% North_Amerindian @ 7.01
8 71.8% Spanish_Aragon + 28.2% French_Basque @ 7.04
9 60.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 39.5% French_Basque @ 7.09
10 58.6% French_Basque + 41.4% Portuguese @ 7.11
11 60% Spanish_Cantabria + 40% French_Basque @ 7.21
12 51% Spanish_Andalucia + 49% French_Basque @ 7.35
13 63% French_Basque + 37% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.41
14 67.8% French_Basque + 32.2% North_Italian @ 7.43
15 97.7% Spanish_Aragon + 2.3% East_Greenlander @ 7.44
16 54.3% Spanish_Valencia + 45.7% French_Basque @ 7.46
17 97.9% Spanish_Aragon + 2.1% West_Greenlander @ 7.52
18 85.1% French_Basque + 14.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 7.56
19 55.5% French_Basque + 44.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.58
20 74.8% French_Basque + 25.2% Tuscan @ 7.61
Y aquí mi K36 que en algunos sentidos me gusta mucho esta calculadora porque deja menos residuales ruidosos.
Amerindian 3.62 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 22.84 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.82 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.66 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 0.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.99 Pct
French 4.27 Pct
Iberian 25.18 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.48 Pct
Italian 12.39 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.75 Pct
North_African 1.03 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.95 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.10 Pct
North_Sea 2.76 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.19 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.35 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.20 Pct
Luego agregaré más.:thumb001:
Ese 1% de fennoscandian huele a gallego amigo, aparte del inmeso aporte vasco (que guardas el récord con ese bestial 22~%) tienes algun familiar directo de Galicia, Portugal o Asturias?
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 09:30 AM
No creo que la actitud de esas personas sea la mayoritaria con los sudamericanos en España. Posiblemente hasta esas personas si te tuvieran de frente te tratarían totalmente normal. tambiém es cierto que yo vivo en un entrono algo diferente y trato con poca gente que pueda tener ideas supremacistas de ese tipo, al menos nacionalistas españolas.Igual fuera de esta zona resulta que sí es habitual gente así.
Gente asi en la vida real son minoría, pero existen, hasta en Madrid. Yo tengo una anécdota bastante fea de cuando fui becario, que si les interesa la cuento.
AlfonsoVIII
02-15-2020, 09:57 AM
Gente asi en la vida real son minoría, pero existen, hasta en Madrid. Yo tengo una anécdota bastante fea de cuando fui becario, que si les interesa la cuento.
Cuenta, cuenta.
gixajo
02-15-2020, 10:04 AM
Estimado Gixajo:
Aquí están mis exámenes tal cuál prometi que publicaría:
Ancestry.com
https://i.imgur.com/MiR2YSk.png
LIVINGDNA
https://i.imgur.com/pbyEIje.png
K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 37
2 West_Med 25.89
3 North_Sea 18.91
4 East_Med 6.72
5 Amerindian 3.83
6 West_Asian 2.4
7 Eastern_Euro 2.04
8 Southeast_Asian 1
9 Sub-Saharan 0.6
10 Red_Sea 0.54
11 South_Asian 0.53
12 Oceanian 0.53
13 Baltic 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 7.67
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.68
3 Spanish_Cantabria 8.78
4 Spanish_Valencia 9.65
5 Southwest_French 9.85
6 Spanish_Andalucia 10.22
7 French_Basque 10.43
8 Spanish_Murcia 10.96
9 Spanish_Extremadura 11.69
10 Spanish_Cataluna 11.72
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.77
12 Portuguese 12.92
13 Spanish_Galicia 14.54
14 North_Italian 17.1
15 French 18.24
16 South_Dutch 21.97
17 Tuscan 22.54
18 Southwest_English 23.57
19 Southeast_English 24.76
20 West_German 25.4
Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.2% Spanish_Aragon + 2.8% Karitiana @ 6.78
2 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% Mayan @ 6.81
3 97% Spanish_Aragon + 3% Anzick-1 @ 6.82
4 97% Spanish_Aragon + 3% Pima @ 6.84
5 52.2% French_Basque + 47.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.96
6 54.8% French_Basque + 45.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7
7 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% North_Amerindian @ 7.01
8 71.8% Spanish_Aragon + 28.2% French_Basque @ 7.04
9 60.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 39.5% French_Basque @ 7.09
10 58.6% French_Basque + 41.4% Portuguese @ 7.11
11 60% Spanish_Cantabria + 40% French_Basque @ 7.21
12 51% Spanish_Andalucia + 49% French_Basque @ 7.35
13 63% French_Basque + 37% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.41
14 67.8% French_Basque + 32.2% North_Italian @ 7.43
15 97.7% Spanish_Aragon + 2.3% East_Greenlander @ 7.44
16 54.3% Spanish_Valencia + 45.7% French_Basque @ 7.46
17 97.9% Spanish_Aragon + 2.1% West_Greenlander @ 7.52
18 85.1% French_Basque + 14.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 7.56
19 55.5% French_Basque + 44.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.58
20 74.8% French_Basque + 25.2% Tuscan @ 7.61
Y aquí mi K36 que en algunos sentidos me gusta mucho esta calculadora porque deja menos residuales ruidosos.
Amerindian 3.62 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 22.84 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.82 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.66 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 0.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.99 Pct
French 4.27 Pct
Iberian 25.18 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.48 Pct
Italian 12.39 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.75 Pct
North_African 1.03 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.95 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.10 Pct
North_Sea 2.76 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.19 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.35 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.20 Pct
Luego agregaré más.:thumb001:
Gracias Erronkari, como tardaste en postear y era tarde hasta esta mañana no lo he visto.
AlfonsoVIII
02-15-2020, 10:09 AM
A mi ingreso al foro tampoco me esperaba ciertas actitudes y discusiones o comentarios. Sabía que era una comunidad europea pero no con el enfoque que algunos usuarios le dan. Los españoles como Cristiano Viejo, Duffman, etc. tienen unas visiones muy peculiares para mí, aunque las de Cristiano viejo son las más ostracistas y radicales. A veces cuesta tomar en serio algunos de los posts. De plano algunos españoles no suelen ser amistosos.
Por la parte que me toca, soy firme partidario de la segregación racial, ya que considero que cada raza es digna de conservación y las políticas mundialistas de miscegenación son un peligro para la conservación de la diversidad humana.
Dicho esto, no soy nada partidario de la supremacía ni del desprecio a quien no es como yo. Tengo buenos amigos ecuatorianos y colombianos mestizos y negros y cuando hemos tratado este tema ha sido siempre desde el respeto. No concibo el ofender o agredir a alguien por el simple hecho de no ser como yo.
Cristiano Viejo es un individuo que no mide sus palabras y muchas veces pienso que simplemente utiliza este foro como herramienta para desahogarse de sus frustraciones personales.
Gaska
02-15-2020, 10:49 AM
Toppo es enemigo de la Hispanoesfera, tiene ganas infinitas de recrear el Al-Andalus y tiene problemas controlando sus impulsos violentos.
La verdad es que en unos pocos días basta para entender como funciona el foro-No es que sean enemigos, simplemente hay muchos rencorosos, envidiosos mentirosos y acomplejados. Y los hay de todos los tipos, moros arrancaparras, nordicistas mamahuevos, gabachos chauvinistas etc..... Generalmente no entienden nada de genética y tratan de manipular estadisticamente algunos estudios para intentar putearnos- Me imagino que los que llevan mucho tiempo posteando estarán hasta las pelotas de aguantar tonterías y por eso están más radicalizados. Yo si tuviera que discutir todos los días con esta cuadrilla de analfabetos acabaría de los nervios. En todo caso, aunque no es un foro "genético" como yo creía pienso que esta muy bien que los españoles participen y hagan frente a estos paletos.
Respecto a los comentarios que has hecho de los sudamericanos, a mi lo que mas me ha sorprendido es la preocupación por la apariencia física, parece que en toda América el tema racial es mucho mas importante de lo que (hasta ahora) era en España. Por eso pienso que los que participan aqui son mas hispanófilos, aunque algunos comentarios como los del chicano de Chicago del otro dia mandando fotos de su camioneta y sus padres son para hacerselo mirar-
Y respecto de los fenotipos, ya sabeís que mi padre es más vasco que una txapela con cero sangre norteafricana o levantina (que parece que es lo que mas preocupa a la gente), y sin embargo yo soy medio gallego, pues bien, el es moreno de ojos marrones y yo soy rubio de ojos azules- Es decir en teoría, mi sangre africana me ha dado una apariencia nórdica a diferencia de mi padre o abuelo que eran ultra-vascones, por eso decía en otros hilos que un vasco es fenotipicamente indistinguible del resto de españoles, simplemente es la verdad, aunque algunos supremacistas se empeñen en decir lo contrario. Como tengamos que estar todo el dia discutiendo con el Mohamed de turno esto será un coñazo.
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 11:23 AM
Cuenta, cuenta.
Vale, voy a contarle al publico para entrener un poco, siempre es bueno echar una que otra anecdota.
Resultado que yo entre de becario en una empresa de reformas de viviendas y locales comerciales, yo soy ingeniero pero era un ambito mas dedicado a la arquitectura, es un cuento largo el porque termine en esa empresa pero bueno, contare lo que importa. La cuestion es que entre junto a una mexicana bastante mexicana, y esta chica era bastante simpatica y tal, no se metia con nadie. Al primer dia conocimos a la mano derecha del jefe, que es un ex-militar retirado que manejaba como que la parte comercial y el contacto con los clientes pesados y a la segunda arquitecto que era venezolana, bastante venezolana (ojo, cuando digo bastante mexicana y bastante venezolana, es que eran el average fisicamente), esta chica si nunca me cayo nada bien porque le pedias ayuda y no te hacia ni caso la hija de puta, y era su responsabilidad.
A todos nos sentaban en la misma mesa a trabajar, nosotros los becarios eramos unos novatos de mierda que solo podiamos colaborar en lo que pudiesemos, y desde el dia 1, el tio ex-militar comenzo con apodos de panchita a la venezolana, y esta mas tontaca como que no sabia que coño significaba eso aqui que lo que hacia era reirse, yo pense que era por cariño y tal, pero como se venian las primeras elecciones generales del año pasado con un Vox en alza, este hizo un comentario que me hizo darme cuenta de que era un racista total: "Espera a que gane Vox estas elecciones que os van a dar una patada por el culo hasta casa". Nada, el tio resulta que era ultra racista.
Lo peor es lo que viene aqui, la tomo con la mexicana, que comenzo a llamarle panchita en una que otra ocasion en modo cachondeo, pero yo no era idiota yo ya sabia por donde iba este tio, que era querer descalificarla. En una mala suerte de las mias, le dijeron al tio que escogiera a uno de los 2 (la mexicana y yo) para ir a una obra a hacer unas mediciones y tal, y me elige a mi. En el camino desde Plaza de Castilla hasta Alcobendas, que era donde estaba la vivienda, el tio me fue contando barbaridades que los putos moros que hay aqui lo que deberian es sacarlos y tal, que yo deberia votar a Vox si queria ser un buen español, porque por ahora "Yo no estaba con estatus de español", no podia ser aceptado por el, y yo dentro de mi "Este macho ya va a venir a descalificarme a mi", pues nada yo lo que dije que me gustaba mucho la politica inmigratoria de Vox, pero que se leyera bien la propuesta, que ellos no iban ni a matar ni a expulsar a nadie que este legal, y el me recordo a un señorito que tenemos en el foro, diciendome "Eso no es asi, tu porque eres blanco estas tranquilo pero el panico ya esta servido, pero que ojo, que no tienes 4 abuelos castizos madrileños", yo lo que queria era llegar a la puta empresa ya porque estaba incomodisimo como nunca lo he podido estar de que vivo aqui.
Ya la ultima semana en sus mariconadas de llamarle panchita a las chicas pues me la jugue diciendole "Ey tio ya te estas pasando con lo de panchita", me dijo "Tu tranquilito ahi que no estas muy atras, que esa portada solo te sirve para pasar desapercibido", y yo nada, como nunca fui una rata o un soplon, nunca le dije nada al jefe, pero el dia que terminaron las practicas fue un alivio gigante.
Vivo, o vivia, en la ciudad mas abierta del mundo o al menos una de las 5 mas abiertas, tiene sus consecuencias malas, pero buenas, y hasta aqui te puedes encontrar gente borde que lleva la situacion de la inmigracion a lo ilogico. Hasta en Madrid te los encuentras, en la Madrid de los rascacielos.
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 11:33 AM
En Madrid esa gente abunda mucho, no es que sea una proeza eso que comentas.
Madrid debe ser la única gran ciudad occidental (junto con Milán y Roma) con una amplia población de gente conservadora o de extrema derecha.
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 11:38 AM
En Madrid esa gente abunda mucho, no es que sea una proeza eso que comentas.
Madrid debe ser la única gran ciudad occidental (junto con Milán y Roma) con una amplia población de gente conservadora o de extrema derecha.
Deberias comenzar a quotear, porque no llega la notificacion compa. Yo la verdad es que no te podria discutir algo que capaz sepas mucho mas que yo, si te dire que en la poblacion joven madrileña, conservadores el 5% pa abajo. Igual una cosa es ser de extrema derecha y otra cosa es ser un supremacista que falta al respeto a quien le salga de los cojones.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 01:18 PM
Ese 1% de fennoscandian huele a gallego amigo, aparte del inmeso aporte vasco (que guardas el récord con ese bestial 22~%) tienes algun familiar directo de Galicia, Portugal o Asturias?
Así es.
De las Islas Azores.
De hecho mi primer apellido es portugués.
Pero no es directo, sino que pasaron a España primero.
Por lo visto es bien lejano, por eso casi ni lo menciono.
Mi apellido es un patronimico terminado en "s".
¿Será que viene de allí?
Sería muy interesante.
A lo mejor es también de allí que viene el "irlandés/escocés" que me da Ancestry.com, porque legítimo no creo que sea jaja.
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 01:24 PM
Así es.
De las Islas Azores.
De hecho mi primer apellido es portugués.
Pero no es directo, sino que pasaron a España primero.
Por lo visto es bien lejano, por eso casi ni lo menciono.
Mi apellido es un patronimico terminado en "s".
¿Será que viene de allí?
Sería muy interesante.
A lo mejor es también de allí que viene el "irlandés/escocés" que me da Ancestry.com, porque legítimo no creo que sea jaja.
Yo lo que se, es que a los gallegos, portugueses y asturianos son los que sacan fennoscandian en el k36 y scando germanic en el k47, y eso que he visto bastantes muestras. No significa que alguien de Madrid o de Sevilla no lo pueda sacar, pero tambien es menos común. Pregunte una vez el porque y me dijeron que eran trazos de los suevos.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 01:38 PM
Yo lo que se, es que a los gallegos, portugueses y asturianos son los que sacan fennoscandian en el k36 y scando germanic en el k47, y eso que he visto bastantes muestras. No significa que alguien de Madrid o de Sevilla no lo pueda sacar, pero tambien es menos común. Pregunte una vez el porque y me dijeron que eran trazos de los suevos.
Muy interesante.
Curiosamente mi segundo apellido es asturiano de Pola de Siero, aunque muy afincado en Canarias (aunque yo familia canaria no tengo nada).
Lo interesante es que creo que ese apellido existe en Venezuela, no es común pero existe.
En Cuba también y creo que en RD.
Y el resto salvo el siciliano de uno de mis bisabuelos son prácticamente todos vascos (algunos menos del lado francés, la mayoría navarros del prepirineo).
Incluso hay uno que no puedo rastrearlo porque suena si muy vascuence pero se ve que le cambiaron algunas letras entonces lo complica bastante.
Luego si quieren puedo mencionar esos apellidos, no tengo ningún pero al respecto. Sería un gusto.
gixajo
02-15-2020, 01:40 PM
Yo lo que se, es que a los gallegos, portugueses y asturianos son los que sacan fennoscandian en el k36 y scando germanic en el k47, y eso que he visto bastantes muestras. No significa que alguien de Madrid o de Sevilla no lo pueda sacar, pero tambien es menos común. Pregunte una vez el porque y me dijeron que eran trazos de los suevos.
Fennoescandian me sale 0,06 % en el k36...
mitalit
02-15-2020, 01:41 PM
Muy interesante.
Curiosamente mi segundo apellido es asturiano aunque muy afincado en Canarias (aunque yo familia canaria no tengo nada).
Lo interesante es que creo que ese apellido existe en Venezuela, no es común pero existe.
En Cuba también y creo que en RD.
Y el resto salvo el siciliano de uno de mis bisabuelos son prácticamente todos vascos (algunos menos del lado francés, la mayoría navarros del prepirineo).
Incluso hay uno que no puedo rastrearlo porque suena si muy vascuence pero se ve que le cambiaron algunas letras entonces lo complica bastante.
Luego si quieren puedo mencionar esos apellidos, no tengo ningún pero al respecto. Sería un gusto.
Seria muy interesante
mitalit
02-15-2020, 01:43 PM
Yo lo que se, es que a los gallegos, portugueses y asturianos son los que sacan fennoscandian en el k36 y scando germanic en el k47, y eso que he visto bastantes muestras. No significa que alguien de Madrid o de Sevilla no lo pueda sacar, pero tambien es menos común. Pregunte una vez el porque y me dijeron que eran trazos de los suevos.
Tiene lógica, en mi caso es inexistente
PT Tagus
02-15-2020, 01:48 PM
Yo lo que se, es que a los gallegos, portugueses y asturianos son los que sacan fennoscandian en el k36 y scando germanic en el k47, y eso que he visto bastantes muestras. No significa que alguien de Madrid o de Sevilla no lo pueda sacar, pero tambien es menos común. Pregunte una vez el porque y me dijeron que eran trazos de los suevos.
Yo confirmo... :lol:
Fennoscandian - 2,56%
Scando Germanic - 6,47%
gixajo
02-15-2020, 01:53 PM
Muy interesante.
Curiosamente mi segundo apellido es asturiano de Pola de Siero, aunque muy afincado en Canarias (aunque yo familia canaria no tengo nada).
Lo interesante es que creo que ese apellido existe en Venezuela, no es común pero existe.
En Cuba también y creo que en RD.
Y el resto salvo el siciliano de uno de mis bisabuelos son prácticamente todos vascos (algunos menos del lado francés, la mayoría navarros del prepirineo).
Incluso hay uno que no puedo rastrearlo porque suena si muy vascuence pero se ve que le cambiaron algunas letras entonces lo complica bastante.
Luego si quieren puedo mencionar esos apellidos, no tengo ningún pero al respecto. Sería un gusto.
¿Qué apellido no puedes rastrear?
Por cierto si tienes interés por comparar algún resultado de gedmatch o similar de los míos, no tienes más que pedirlo.
Por ahora sin duda eres tú el más vascorro de los de por aquí, a falta de conocer los resultados de pericolez.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:02 PM
Vale, voy a contarle al publico para entrener un poco, siempre es bueno echar una que otra anecdota.
Resultado que yo entre de becario en una empresa de reformas de viviendas y locales comerciales, yo soy ingeniero pero era un ambito mas dedicado a la arquitectura, es un cuento largo el porque termine en esa empresa pero bueno, contare lo que importa. La cuestion es que entre junto a una mexicana bastante mexicana, y esta chica era bastante simpatica y tal, no se metia con nadie. Al primer dia conocimos a la mano derecha del jefe, que es un ex-militar retirado que manejaba como que la parte comercial y el contacto con los clientes pesados y a la segunda arquitecto que era venezolana, bastante venezolana (ojo, cuando digo bastante mexicana y bastante venezolana, es que eran el average fisicamente), esta chica si nunca me cayo nada bien porque le pedias ayuda y no te hacia ni caso la hija de puta, y era su responsabilidad.
A todos nos sentaban en la misma mesa a trabajar, nosotros los becarios eramos unos novatos de mierda que solo podiamos colaborar en lo que pudiesemos, y desde el dia 1, el tio ex-militar comenzo con apodos de panchita a la venezolana, y esta mas tontaca como que no sabia que coño significaba eso aqui que lo que hacia era reirse, yo pense que era por cariño y tal, pero como se venian las primeras elecciones generales del año pasado con un Vox en alza, este hizo un comentario que me hizo darme cuenta de que era un racista total: "Espera a que gane Vox estas elecciones que os van a dar una patada por el culo hasta casa". Nada, el tio resulta que era ultra racista.
Lo peor es lo que viene aqui, la tomo con la mexicana, que comenzo a llamarle panchita en una que otra ocasion en modo cachondeo, pero yo no era idiota yo ya sabia por donde iba este tio, que era querer descalificarla. En una mala suerte de las mias, le dijeron al tio que escogiera a uno de los 2 (la mexicana y yo) para ir a una obra a hacer unas mediciones y tal, y me elige a mi. En el camino desde Plaza de Castilla hasta Alcobendas, que era donde estaba la vivienda, el tio me fue contando barbaridades que los putos moros que hay aqui lo que deberian es sacarlos y tal, que yo deberia votar a Vox si queria ser un buen español, porque por ahora "Yo no estaba con estatus de español", no podia ser aceptado por el, y yo dentro de mi "Este macho ya va a venir a descalificarme a mi", pues nada yo lo que dije que me gustaba mucho la politica inmigratoria de Vox, pero que se leyera bien la propuesta, que ellos no iban ni a matar ni a expulsar a nadie que este legal, y el me recordo a un señorito que tenemos en el foro, diciendome "Eso no es asi, tu porque eres blanco estas tranquilo pero el panico ya esta servido, pero que ojo, que no tienes 4 abuelos castizos madrileños", yo lo que queria era llegar a la puta empresa ya porque estaba incomodisimo como nunca lo he podido estar de que vivo aqui.
Ya la ultima semana en sus mariconadas de llamarle panchita a las chicas pues me la jugue diciendole "Ey tio ya te estas pasando con lo de panchita", me dijo "Tu tranquilito ahi que no estas muy atras, que esa portada solo te sirve para pasar desapercibido", y yo nada, como nunca fui una rata o un soplon, nunca le dije nada al jefe, pero el dia que terminaron las practicas fue un alivio gigante.
Vivo, o vivia, en la ciudad mas abierta del mundo o al menos una de las 5 mas abiertas, tiene sus consecuencias malas, pero buenas, y hasta aqui te puedes encontrar gente borde que lleva la situacion de la inmigracion a lo ilogico. Hasta en Madrid te los encuentras, en la Madrid de los rascacielos.
Vaya...
Bueno, en realidad son cosas que cada tanto pasan.
Pero tengo una amiga que fue compañera de la secundaria.
Ella es de la provincia de Misiones.
El marido es de la capital, pero los padres son tucumanos creo, y también en su momento antes de que ellos se fueran para España nos hicimos buenos amigos.
Ellos no tienen como muchos otros sangre ascendencia inmigrante reciente sino de pura raigambre colonial y ambos lucen muy mestizos.
Y no estamos hablando de una boca o nariz exótica sino casi "mita y mita" por rasgos.
Por lo que cuentan los han tratado siempre de maravillas, jamás les han hecho ni un sólo comentario por su condición e incluso siempre les han ayudado cuando lo han necesitado.
Por otro lado tienen ys casi veinte años de estar en Madrid y dos hijos nacidos allá y me he matado de la risa en una audiollamada que hicimos, ellos aunque con muchas palabras madrileñas su acento casi no ha cambiado en cambio los niños obviamente hablando como puros madrileños.
Por eso pienso que siempre que todo depende de lo que uno ha topado.
Pero pienso que gente como la que has mencionado es la excepción y no la regla.
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 02:04 PM
¿Qué apellido no puedes rastrear?
Por cierto si tienes interés por comparar algún resultado de gedmatch o similar de los míos, no tienes más que pedirlo.
Por ahora sin duda eres tú el más vascorro de los de por aquí, a falta de conocer los resultados de pericolez.
Erronkari es más vasco (genéticamente) que los propios vascos. Es un fósil viviente, en el sentido más literal de la expresión. Un 8 apellidos vascos (y además de distintos herrialdes)
Dudo que más de un 10% de la gente que habita en el País Vasco y Navarra sea tan vasco como él.
Si fuera un animal estaría en un zoo y le acercarían hembras similares a él para perpetuar la especie.
gixajo
02-15-2020, 02:05 PM
Yo confirmo... :lol:
Fennoscandian - 2,56%
Scando Germanic - 6,47%
Yo tengo 5,28% Scando Germanic en k47 de YouDnaPortal , y 0,05% Fennoescandian en el k36 de YouDnaPortal, 0,06% en el k36 de GedMatch.
gixajo
02-15-2020, 02:12 PM
Erronkari es más vasco (genéticamente) que los propios vascos. Es un fósil viviente, en el sentido más literal de la expresión. Un 8 apellidos vascos (y además de distintos herrialdes)
Dudo que más de un 10% de la gente que habita en el País Vasco y Navarra sea tan vasco como él.
Si fuera un animal estaría en un zoo y le acercarían hembras similares a él para perpetuar la especie.
Depende para quién, recordemos lo que decía el Aita Arzallus: "Yo no soy racista. Yo prefiero a un negro, negro, que hable euskara que a un blanco que lo ignore" (1994).:picard1:
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:16 PM
¿Qué apellido no puedes rastrear?
Por cierto si tienes interés por comparar algún resultado de gedmatch o similar de los míos, no tienes más que pedirlo.
Por ahora sin duda eres tú el más vascorro de los de por aquí, a falta de conocer los resultados de pericolez.
Jajaja creo que Spaniard 2.0 y Gaska me deben superar.
Y es cierto, descarto que "ocho apellidos vascos" Perikolez me debe triplicar en ese sentido. :bounce:
Pero si es cierto que para estándares del nuevo mundo realmente tengo mucho de vasco, lo cual es un orgullo sin dudas.
Pero que conste, yo la "vasquitud" la veo en el contexto español, de hecho su singularidad se da por ser tan endémico ibérico y haber sido por mucho tiempo bastante endogámico (en el sentido del mismo pueblo, no de incesto, claro).
Pero claro que me interesaría muchísimo ver los otros resultados, es realmente una maravilla el mundo de la genética. :D
El apellido que no puedo encontrar es Orzaocoa, que también existe como Orzaokoa con "k".
Imagino que puede ser del prepirineo navarro pero no lo sé a ciencia cierta.
Los otros que tengo conocimiento si son en general dd público conocimiento, como Elizondo, Odriozola, Arrizabalaga, Jaureguiberry, Uzcudun, Guerendiain, Iriarte, Iriart (ese posiblemente de Aquitania) y Garmendia.
También hay uno entre mis antepasados que es Samaniego que no parece tener fonética euskera pero todo indica que sería alavés....
PT Tagus
02-15-2020, 02:18 PM
Yo tengo 5,28% Scando Germanic en k47 de YouDnaPortal , y 0,05% Fennoescandian en el k36 de YouDnaPortal, 0,06% en el k36 de GedMatch.
Mis resultados en K36 son extraños, el porcentaje del componente ibérico es considerablemente bajo (18,07%), mientras que, por ejemplo, el componente francés es bastante alto (13,43%).
95577
Mis resultados en K47 están bastante divididos, pero se destacan el norte ibérico y el celta.
95576
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:19 PM
Depende para quién, recordemos lo que decía el Aita Arzallus: "Yo no soy racista. Yo prefiero a un negro, negro, que hable euskara que a un blanco que lo ignore" (1994).:picard1:
Y su deseo se cumplió.
Iñaki Williams, el delantero del Athletic es prueba de ello jajajajajaja.
mitalit
02-15-2020, 02:19 PM
Depende para quién, recordemos lo que decía el Aita Arzallus: "Yo no soy racista. Yo prefiero a un negro, negro, que hable euskara que a un blanco que lo ignore" (1994).:picard1:
Comentario bastante racista
mitalit
02-15-2020, 02:20 PM
Y su deseo se cumplió.
Iñaki Williams, el delantero del Athletic es prueba de ello jajajajajaja.
No creo que hable euskera
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:21 PM
Mis resultados en K36 son extraños, el porcentaje del componente ibérico es considerablemente bajo (18,07%), mientras que, por ejemplo, el componente francés es bastante alto (13,43%).
95577
Mis resultados en K47 están bastante divididos, pero se destacan el norte ibérico y el celta.
95576
Voce nao tem algo das Acores??? :o
Ai chegaram bastantes franceses da Bretanha!!
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 02:21 PM
Muy interesante.
Curiosamente mi segundo apellido es asturiano de Pola de Siero, aunque muy afincado en Canarias (aunque yo familia canaria no tengo nada).
Lo interesante es que creo que ese apellido existe en Venezuela, no es común pero existe.
En Cuba también y creo que en RD.
Y el resto salvo el siciliano de uno de mis bisabuelos son prácticamente todos vascos (algunos menos del lado francés, la mayoría navarros del prepirineo).
Incluso hay uno que no puedo rastrearlo porque suena si muy vascuence pero se ve que le cambiaron algunas letras entonces lo complica bastante.
Luego si quieren puedo mencionar esos apellidos, no tengo ningún pero al respecto. Sería un gusto.
Mi abuelo era de Mieres, Asturias, pero se fue de joven a Leon a hacer su vida porque era practicamente un pueblo bastante pequeño, asi que tenemos lo del siciliano y lo del astur en comun jajajaja. Tu de canario no tienes nada, 0% NA y lo que no tienes de europeo que es como entre 1 y 2% es de nuestras tierras americanas. Como dijo gixajo, eres el mas vasquete.
Yo confirmo... :lol:
Fennoscandian - 2,56%
Scando Germanic - 6,47%
Asi es, tipico de un portugues, que al fin y al cabo, son los mas cercanos a los gallegos geneticamente, los asturianos estan tambien bastante cerca.
Fennoscandian 4.12 Pct
Scando Germanic 7.85%
Es algo bastante comun la verdad, a los celtiberos como que le gustaban mucho las suevas... y las ibero-mauritanas.
Tiene lógica, en mi caso es inexistente
Aunque tu caso lo hemos hablado bastante, tu fennoscandian no marcas, y creo que scando nordic tampoco, pero marcas altisimo en North Atlantic y North Sea, que North Sea tambien va de la mano con Fennoscandian, los del occidente peninsular supuestamente siempre marcan mas North Sea, pero tu caso es que ese componente es que viene de no tan lejana herencia del Norte de Europa. Vamos, es lo que yo pienso y ya ves lo que te pone el G25.
Fennoescandian me sale 0,06 % en el k36...
Claro, como buen mitad andaluz y mitad vasco, tus marcadores atlanticos son los mas dominantes, todos los de la vertebra peninsular van a marcar un NorthAtlantic y French bastante alto y los vascos el Iberian y el Basque. North Atlantic y French supuestamente son los marcadores mas celtas, Iberian no se queda atras.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:22 PM
Mis resultados en K36 son extraños, el porcentaje del componente ibérico es considerablemente bajo (18,07%), mientras que, por ejemplo, el componente francés es bastante alto (13,43%).
95577
Mis resultados en K47 están bastante divididos, pero se destacan el norte ibérico y el celta.
95576
Voce nao tem algo das Acores??? :o
Ai chegaram bastantes franceses da Bretanha!!
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Los apellidos vascos con "k" en vez de "c" (o con "tx" en vez de "ch", o poner "ia" en vez de "y") son una invención sabiniana del siglo XX y popularizados muy recientemente, no tienen más de 40 años.
Normal que te confundas.
En realidad son los mismos apellidos.
En Francia sucedió el fenómeno contrario, la francesación de los apellidos.
Verás Echevarría, Etxebarría y Etcheverry. Los 3 son iguales y tienen el mismo origen.
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 02:24 PM
Los apellidos vascos con "k" en vez de "c" (o con "tx" en vez de "ch", o poner "ia" en vez de "y") son una invención sabiniana del siglo XX y popularizados muy recientemente, no tienen más de 40 años.
Normal que te confundas.
En realidad son los mismos apellidos.
En Francia sucedió el fenómeno contrario, la francesación de los apellidos.
Verás Echevarría, Etxebarría y Etcheverry. Los 3 son iguales y tienen el mismo origen.
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 02:29 PM
Vaya...
Bueno, en realidad son cosas que cada tanto pasan.
Pero tengo una amiga que fue compañera de la secundaria.
Ella es de la provincia de Misiones.
El marido es de la capital, pero los padres son tucumanos creo, y también en su momento antes de que ellos se fueran para España nos hicimos buenos amigos.
Ellos no tienen como muchos otros sangre ascendencia inmigrante reciente sino de pura raigambre colonial y ambos lucen muy mestizos.
Y no estamos hablando de una boca o nariz exótica sino casi "mita y mita" por rasgos.
Por lo que cuentan los han tratado siempre de maravillas, jamás les han hecho ni un sólo comentario por su condición e incluso siempre les han ayudado cuando lo han necesitado.
Por otro lado tienen ys casi veinte años de estar en Madrid y dos hijos nacidos allá y me he matado de la risa en una audiollamada que hicimos, ellos aunque con muchas palabras madrileñas su acento casi no ha cambiado en cambio los niños obviamente hablando como puros madrileños.
Por eso pienso que siempre que todo depende de lo que uno ha topado.
Pero pienso que gente como la que has mencionado es la excepción y no la regla.
Yo soy otro que cuenta a sus amigos de toda la vida en Venezuela y a mi familia que aqui a mi novia y a mi nos han tratado de maravillas, mas bien, ustedes son los primeros en saber esto que vivi en las practicas en esa empresa porque no quise darle ningun disgusto a mi novia. A ver que yo la parte mas dificil no la tuve, fue la mexicana que se trago a ese bestia que no media sus palabras. A mi lo que me decia era que como era posible que tuviese nacionalidad solo por descendencia o que no solo bastaba con parecer europeo si no actual como tal, estupideces vamos, que el que menos actuaba como europeo era el, si faltar el respeto es lo mas cercano que te puedes encontrar en un barrio de clase baja en Venezuela. Pero bueno, de tener ya casi 2 años aqui, solo ha sido eso, y como dije, el mal trago no me lo lleve tanto yo.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:34 PM
Mi abuelo era de Mieres, Asturias, pero se fue de joven a Leon a hacer su vida porque era practicamente un pueblo bastante pequeño, asi que tenemos lo del siciliano y lo del astur en comun jajajaja. Tu de canario no tienes nada, 0% NA y lo que no tienes de europeo que es como entre 1 y 2% es de nuestras tierras americanas. Como dijo gixajo, eres el mas vasquete.
Asi es, tipico de un portugues, que al fin y al cabo, son los mas cercanos a los gallegos geneticamente, los asturianos estan tambien bastante cerca.
Fennoscandian 4.12 Pct
Scando Germanic 7.85%
Es algo bastante comun la verdad, a los celtiberos como que le gustaban mucho las suevas... y las ibero-mauritanas.
Aunque tu caso lo hemos hablado bastante, tu fennoscandian no marcas, y creo que scando nordic tampoco, pero marcas altisimo en North Atlantic y North Sea, que North Sea tambien va de la mano con Fennoscandian, los del occidente peninsular supuestamente siempre marcan mas North Sea, pero tu caso es que ese componente es que viene de no tan lejana herencia del Norte de Europa. Vamos, es lo que yo pienso y ya ves lo que te pone el G25.
Claro, como buen mitad andaluz y mitad vasco, tus marcadores atlanticos son los mas dominantes, todos los de la vertebra peninsular van a marcar un NorthAtlantic y French bastante alto y los vascos el Iberian y el Basque. North Atlantic y French supuestamente son los marcadores mas celtas, Iberian no se queda atras.
Mira que interesante!!!
Entonces también compartimos algo de Asturias!!
Si bien esa parte en mi caso se afincó en tierras vascas.
O sea al igual que tu abuelo también dejaron el terruño sólo que varias generaciones antes. :D
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 02:37 PM
Pues hace 20 años Madrid estaba lleno de grupos neonazis, y en los 80 había aún más.
Y bueno, los jóvenes de 20 años de ciertos barrios de Madrid serán liberales o progres. Pero la gente cambia (yo mismo) y además España es un país envejecido cuyo grueso de la población tiene más de 40 años.
Estadísticamente la juventud en este país no pinta nada (y de hecho España es un país hecho por y para gente vieja o mayor de 50 años, y te das cuenta de eso cuando durante la crisis quitaron la calefacción de las universidades y redujeron las becas, pero no quitaron la calefacción de los hospitales ni bajaron las pensiones). El español promedio jamás ha tratado con un inmigrante más allá de pedir algo en un bar o cosas así, no ha estudiado con inmigrantes, no ha tenido amigos inmigrantes, no ha hablado con un inmigrante.
No creo que jamás llegues a darte cuenta de cómo es el español promedio realmente (a no ser que tengas 45 años o más)
Gota_type_
02-15-2020, 02:37 PM
Vale, voy a contarle al publico para entrener un poco, siempre es bueno echar una que otra anecdota.
Resultado que yo entre de becario en una empresa de reformas de viviendas y locales comerciales, yo soy ingeniero pero era un ambito mas dedicado a la arquitectura, es un cuento largo el porque termine en esa empresa pero bueno, contare lo que importa. La cuestion es que entre junto a una mexicana bastante mexicana, y esta chica era bastante simpatica y tal, no se metia con nadie. Al primer dia conocimos a la mano derecha del jefe, que es un ex-militar retirado que manejaba como que la parte comercial y el contacto con los clientes pesados y a la segunda arquitecto que era venezolana, bastante venezolana (ojo, cuando digo bastante mexicana y bastante venezolana, es que eran el average fisicamente), esta chica si nunca me cayo nada bien porque le pedias ayuda y no te hacia ni caso la hija de puta, y era su responsabilidad.
A todos nos sentaban en la misma mesa a trabajar, nosotros los becarios eramos unos novatos de mierda que solo podiamos colaborar en lo que pudiesemos, y desde el dia 1, el tio ex-militar comenzo con apodos de panchita a la venezolana, y esta mas tontaca como que no sabia que coño significaba eso aqui que lo que hacia era reirse, yo pense que era por cariño y tal, pero como se venian las primeras elecciones generales del año pasado con un Vox en alza, este hizo un comentario que me hizo darme cuenta de que era un racista total: "Espera a que gane Vox estas elecciones que os van a dar una patada por el culo hasta casa". Nada, el tio resulta que era ultra racista.
Lo peor es lo que viene aqui, la tomo con la mexicana, que comenzo a llamarle panchita en una que otra ocasion en modo cachondeo, pero yo no era idiota yo ya sabia por donde iba este tio, que era querer descalificarla. En una mala suerte de las mias, le dijeron al tio que escogiera a uno de los 2 (la mexicana y yo) para ir a una obra a hacer unas mediciones y tal, y me elige a mi. En el camino desde Plaza de Castilla hasta Alcobendas, que era donde estaba la vivienda, el tio me fue contando barbaridades que los putos moros que hay aqui lo que deberian es sacarlos y tal, que yo deberia votar a Vox si queria ser un buen español, porque por ahora "Yo no estaba con estatus de español", no podia ser aceptado por el, y yo dentro de mi "Este macho ya va a venir a descalificarme a mi", pues nada yo lo que dije que me gustaba mucho la politica inmigratoria de Vox, pero que se leyera bien la propuesta, que ellos no iban ni a matar ni a expulsar a nadie que este legal, y el me recordo a un señorito que tenemos en el foro, diciendome "Eso no es asi, tu porque eres blanco estas tranquilo pero el panico ya esta servido, pero que ojo, que no tienes 4 abuelos castizos madrileños", yo lo que queria era llegar a la puta empresa ya porque estaba incomodisimo como nunca lo he podido estar de que vivo aqui.
Ya la ultima semana en sus mariconadas de llamarle panchita a las chicas pues me la jugue diciendole "Ey tio ya te estas pasando con lo de panchita", me dijo "Tu tranquilito ahi que no estas muy atras, que esa portada solo te sirve para pasar desapercibido", y yo nada, como nunca fui una rata o un soplon, nunca le dije nada al jefe, pero el dia que terminaron las practicas fue un alivio gigante.
Vivo, o vivia, en la ciudad mas abierta del mundo o al menos una de las 5 mas abiertas, tiene sus consecuencias malas, pero buenas, y hasta aqui te puedes encontrar gente borde que lleva la situacion de la inmigracion a lo ilogico. Hasta en Madrid te los encuentras, en la Madrid de los rascacielos.
Me lo he leído por encima pero quizás no te has parado a pensar (a pesar de que el tratamiento que dio a esa mexicana es, tal como lo cuentas, injusto) que ese "racista" ha estado viviendo en un país España pre-2000 sin inmigrantes, donde la sociedad era COMPLETAMENTE diferente a la actual, mucho mejor en todo, y ha estado leyendo los últimos 20 años los periódicos, donde la inmensa mayoría de las noticias relativas a inmigrantes eran o bien de delincuencia, o bien de cómo entraban ilegalmente millones, o bien de uso excesivo de ayudas (si vives en Madrid sabrás de los listados de ayuda a la vivienda en el que el 90% de los nombres son de no españoles), etc.
Es decir, esa persona seguramente hace 15-20 años no tenía nada contra los extranjeros pero fruto de décadas de ver la degradación brutal de muchos aspectos de nuestra sociedad ligadas a la llegada de extranjeros, ha ido cambiando de posición y por eso se metía directamente con los extranjeros. Obviamente no defiendo atacar (recuerda que son solo comentarios verbales, a diferencia de muchos "panchitos" que han provocado tiroteos en Madrid, apuñalamientos, o incluso o ver que "panchitos" dominicanos o colombianos expulsaban a niños españoles de las canchas de deporte de los barrios). Seguramente hasta este votante de VOX antes votaba a PSOE, o PP, partidos convencionales, pero claro, las putadas que nos han hecho los últimos años, hacen que cambien de voto y de ideas.
La inmigración contra España ha sido una catástrofe y lo que tiene que venir es peor. Así que, muy mal al tipo por decir nada directamente a nadie, pero es bastante peor lo que la inmigración en general ha traído a España y puedo entender su cabreo absoluto. Espero que critiques abiertamente cuando los "panchitos" cometen violaciones (recuerdo el caso de 12 panchitos que fueron detenidos hace 10 años por violar a más de 25 españolas en el Parque del Oeste en Madrid, y decían que las "violaban en respuesta a las violaciones de los conquistadores españoles"). Supongo que esto es mucho más racista que el que el tipo ese le diga a otra que es una "panchita" y no veo a los inmigrantes decir nada contra ese racismo que tienen muchos sudamericanos entre sí y contra España.
Gota_type_
02-15-2020, 02:39 PM
Fennoescandian me sale 0,06 % en el k36...
Yo creo recordar que tenía cercano a un 4% de Fennoescandian en el K36. Pero en 23andme me sale 0% Escandinavo. De hecho, sólo tengo un 8% de NW European. El resto Spanish.
gixajo
02-15-2020, 02:39 PM
Jajaja creo que Spaniard 2.0 y Gaska me deben superar.
Y es cierto, descarto que "ocho apellidos vascos" Perikolez me debe triplicar en ese sentido. :bounce:
Pero si es cierto que para estándares del nuevo mundo realmente tengo mucho de vasco, lo cual es un orgullo sin dudas.
Pero que conste, yo la "vasquitud" la veo en el contexto español, de hecho su singularidad se da por ser tan endémico ibérico y haber sido por mucho tiempo bastante endogámico (en el sentido del mismo pueblo, no de incesto, claro).
Pero claro que me interesaría muchísimo ver los otros resultados, es realmente una maravilla el mundo de la genética. :D
El apellido que no puedo encontrar es Orzaocoa, que también existe como Orzaokoa con "k".
Imagino que puede ser del prepirineo navarro pero no lo sé a ciencia cierta.
Los otros que tengo conocimiento si son en general dd público conocimiento, como Elizondo, Odriozola, Arrizabalaga, Jaureguiberry, Uzcudun, Guerendiain, Iriarte, Iriart (ese posiblemente de Aquitania) y Garmendia.
También hay uno entre mis antepasados que es Samaniego que no parece tener fonética euskera pero todo indica que sería alavés....
No hay datos suficientes en el INE, o hay menos de 20 personas con ese apellido en ninguna provincia, sobre el apellido Orzaokoa, Orzaocoa, u Horzaok(c)oa.Aunque sí que veo que hay noticias sobre un argentino conocido con ese apellido : Carlos "vasco" Orzaocoa, un político marxista de Córdoba.
Sí, Samaniego es un pueblo alavés de la cuadrilla de Laguardia-Rioja Alavesa, hay varios pueblos y topónimos de la zona acabados en -iego, o con prefijo similar en iek(g)o-, se desconoce el origen, pero se suponen antiguos. Hay un fabulista del XVIII, Félix María de Samaniego, que era de Laguardia bastante conocido.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Mar%C3%ADa_Samaniego
mitalit
02-15-2020, 02:41 PM
Por la parte que me toca, soy firme partidario de la segregación racial, ya que considero que cada raza es digna de conservación y las políticas mundialistas de miscegenación son un peligro para la conservación de la diversidad humana.
Dicho esto, no soy nada partidario de la supremacía ni del desprecio a quien no es como yo. Tengo buenos amigos ecuatorianos y colombianos mestizos y negros y cuando hemos tratado este tema ha sido siempre desde el respeto. No concibo el ofender o agredir a alguien por el simple hecho de no ser como yo.
Cristiano Viejo es un individuo que no mide sus palabras y muchas veces pienso que simplemente utiliza este foro como herramienta para desahogarse de sus frustraciones personales.
Diria que comparto esta opinión al 100%
mitalit
02-15-2020, 02:48 PM
Yo creo recordar que tenía cercano a un 4% de Fennoescandian en el K36. Pero en 23andme me sale 0% Escandinavo. De hecho, sólo tengo un 8% de NW European. El resto Spanish.
A mi me sale un 0% fenno en el k36 y un 0,7 escandinavo en 23andme
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:49 PM
Me lo he leído por encima pero quizás no te has parado a pensar (a pesar de que el tratamiento que dio a esa mexicana es, tal como lo cuentas, injusto) que ese "racista" ha estado viviendo en un país España pre-2000 sin inmigrantes, donde la sociedad era COMPLETAMENTE diferente a la actual, mucho mejor en todo, y ha estado leyendo los últimos 20 años los periódicos, donde la inmensa mayoría de las noticias relativas a inmigrantes eran o bien de delincuencia, o bien de cómo entraban ilegalmente millones, o bien de uso excesivo de ayudas (si vives en Madrid sabrás de los listados de ayuda a la vivienda en el que el 90% de los nombres son de no españoles), etc.
Es decir, esa persona seguramente hace 15-20 años no tenía nada contra los extranjeros pero fruto de décadas de ver la degradación brutal de muchos aspectos de nuestra sociedad ligadas a la llegada de extranjeros, ha ido cambiando de posición y por eso se metía directamente con los extranjeros. Obviamente no defiendo atacar (recuerda que son solo comentarios verbales, a diferencia de muchos "panchitos" que han provocado tiroteos en Madrid, apuñalamientos, o incluso o ver que "panchitos" dominicanos o colombianos expulsaban a niños españoles de las canchas de deporte de los barrios). Seguramente hasta este votante de VOX antes votaba a PSOE, o PP, partidos convencionales, pero claro, las putadas que nos han hecho los últimos años, hacen que cambien de voto y de ideas.
La inmigración contra España ha sido una catástrofe y lo que tiene que venir es peor. Así que, muy mal al tipo por decir nada directamente a nadie, pero es bastante peor lo que la inmigración en general ha traído a España y puedo entender su cabreo absoluto. Espero que critiques abiertamente cuando los "panchitos" cometen violaciones (recuerdo el caso de 12 panchitos que fueron detenidos hace 10 años por violar a más de 25 españolas en el Parque del Oeste en Madrid, y decían que las "violaban en respuesta a las violaciones de los conquistadores españoles"). Supongo que esto es mucho más racista que el que el tipo ese le diga a otra que es una "panchita" y no veo a los inmigrantes decir nada contra ese racismo que tienen muchos sudamericanos entre sí y contra España.
De hecho los no españoles no tienen porqué recibir ayuda.
Y eso debe ser así en todos los países.
Yo creo que si no se diera la injusticia de que por una cuestión de corrección política los extranjeros terminaran teniendo más derechos que los propios no habría en algunos casos rechazo y tensión.
Eso es ciertisimo y coincido plenamente.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 02:56 PM
No hay datos suficientes en el INE, o hay menos de 20 personas con ese apellido en ninguna provincia, sobre el apellido Orzaokoa, Orzaocoa, u Horzaok(c)oa.Aunque sí que veo que hay noticias sobre un argentino conocido con ese apellido : Carlos "vasco" Orzaocoa, un político marxista de Córdoba.
Sí, Samaniego es un pueblo alavés de la cuadrilla de Laguardia-Rioja Alavesa, hay varios pueblos y topónimos de la zona acabados en -iego, o con prefijo similar en iek(g)o-, se desconoce el origen, pero se suponen antiguos. Hay un fabulista del XVIII, Félix María de Samaniego, que era de Laguardia bastante conocido.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Mar%C3%ADa_Samaniego
Gracias por la ayuda amigo!!
No sabía eso de la raíz del apellido.
Al fin que a pesar de estar en un área de alguna manera no tan "núcleo" en cuanto a lo eusko, si termina teniendo raigambre vasca en realidad.
Claro!! Es un enorme honor tener alguna parentela lejanisima con don Félix, que era prácticamente un Esopo en versión española. ;)
gixajo
02-15-2020, 03:00 PM
Gracias por la ayuda amigo!!
No sabía eso de la raíz del apellido.
Al fin que a pesar de estar en un área de alguna manera no tan "núcleo" en cuanto a lo eusko, si termina teniendo raigambre vasca en realidad.
Claro!! Es un enorme honor tener alguna parentela lejanisima con don Félix, que era prácticamente un Esopo en versión española. ;)
Bueno, tuvo un montón de hijos, igual desciendes de alguno (o igual no), no solo fue fabulista, era un ilustrado que entre otras cosas partició en la creación de la Sociedad Bascongada de Amigos del País, tuvo muchas inquietudes intelectuales apartre de la de escribir fábulas.
http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/portales/felix_maria_de_samaniego/autor_biografia/
samario
02-15-2020, 03:19 PM
Yo soy 0.21 Fennoscandian, 3.61 North Sea y 2.89 North Atlantic en mi k36. (GEDmatch)
En la página de ancestros antiguos me aparecen los gépidos y los hispanos romanos!
Entonces yo estoy por creer que sí tengo algo de esos góticos que invadieron España.
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 03:22 PM
No hay datos suficientes en el INE, o hay menos de 20 personas con ese apellido en ninguna provincia, sobre el apellido Orzaokoa, Orzaocoa, u Horzaok(c)oa.Aunque sí que veo que hay noticias sobre un argentino conocido con ese apellido : Carlos "vasco" Orzaocoa, un político marxista de Córdoba.
Sí, Samaniego es un pueblo alavés de la cuadrilla de Laguardia-Rioja Alavesa, hay varios pueblos y topónimos de la zona acabados en -iego, o con prefijo similar en iek(g)o-, se desconoce el origen, pero se suponen antiguos. Hay un fabulista del XVIII, Félix María de Samaniego, que era de Laguardia bastante conocido.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Mar%C3%ADa_Samaniego
Ah si.... Carlos Normando Orzaocoa es de alguna manera "primo" mío por parte materna a lo que he visto y averiguado.
Aunque no tengo el "gusto" de conocerlo y si eso algún día pasa me temo que de política no podría hablar con él jajajajaja. :P
gixajo
02-15-2020, 03:29 PM
Yo soy 0.21 Fennoscandian, 3.61 North Sea y 2.89 North Atlantic en mi k36. (GEDmatch)
En la página de ancestros antiguos me aparecen los gépidos y los hispanos romanos!
Entonces yo estoy por creer que sí tengo algo de esos góticos que invadieron España.
North Sea 5.53% y North Atlantic 9.34 %
mitalit
02-15-2020, 03:31 PM
Yo north sea 14,43 y north atlantic 4,56
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 03:36 PM
Yo tengo un buen porcentaje de North Atlantic (10.95) y West Med (8.20) pero bien poco de North Sea (2.76).
Tal vez eso sea propio de las personas mayormente de origen vasco. (¿?)
gixajo
02-15-2020, 03:43 PM
¿Cuáles tenéis con más de un 5%?
Míos:
Iberian 34.22
Basque 11.07
Italian 10.21
East Central Euro 9.60
North Atlantic 9.34
West Mditerranean 8.43
North Sea 5.53
samario
02-15-2020, 03:44 PM
Ahora estoy probando las calculadoras de yourDNAportal, he probado la k47 y me ha salido lo siguiente. Muy interesante, no había probado este portal antes.
Kushitic 2.33%
North Iberian 6.25%
East Iberian 5.01%
North African 5.50%
South Caucasian 4.98%
North Caucasian 0.46%
Paleo Balkan 0.68%
East Mediterranean 9.19%
Arabic 4.33%
Central African Hunter Gatherer 1.66%
Andean 10.47%
Celtic 6.12%
West African 8.40%
Sahelian 0.17%
North West Indian 0.48%
East African Hunter Gatherer 0.33%
Scando Germanic 3.87%
Iranian 2.36%
Amazonian 6.57%
Meso Amerind 9.53%
Papuan 0.78%
West Mediterranean 3.60%
Central Mediterranean 6.96%
Cuáles son las calculadoras más interesantes?
mitalit
02-15-2020, 03:48 PM
Yo tengo un buen porcentaje de North Atlantic (10.95) y West Med (8.20) pero bien poco de North Sea (2.76).
Tal vez eso sea propio de las personas mayormente de origen vasco. (¿?)
fijo
mitalit
02-15-2020, 03:51 PM
¿Cuáles tenéis con más de un 5%?
Míos:
Iberian 34.22
Basque 11.07
Italian 10.21
East Central Euro 9.60
North Atlantic 9.34
West Mditerranean 8.43
North Sea 5.53
basque 5,03
east central euro 7,01
French 5,42
iberian 29,03
italian 17,16
north sea 14,43
y north atlantic casi pero no llega al 5, 4,56
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 03:52 PM
Me lo he leído por encima pero quizás no te has parado a pensar (a pesar de que el tratamiento que dio a esa mexicana es, tal como lo cuentas, injusto) que ese "racista" ha estado viviendo en un país España pre-2000 sin inmigrantes, donde la sociedad era COMPLETAMENTE diferente a la actual, mucho mejor en todo, y ha estado leyendo los últimos 20 años los periódicos, donde la inmensa mayoría de las noticias relativas a inmigrantes eran o bien de delincuencia, o bien de cómo entraban ilegalmente millones, o bien de uso excesivo de ayudas (si vives en Madrid sabrás de los listados de ayuda a la vivienda en el que el 90% de los nombres son de no españoles), etc.
Es decir, esa persona seguramente hace 15-20 años no tenía nada contra los extranjeros pero fruto de décadas de ver la degradación brutal de muchos aspectos de nuestra sociedad ligadas a la llegada de extranjeros, ha ido cambiando de posición y por eso se metía directamente con los extranjeros. Obviamente no defiendo atacar (recuerda que son solo comentarios verbales, a diferencia de muchos "panchitos" que han provocado tiroteos en Madrid, apuñalamientos, o incluso o ver que "panchitos" dominicanos o colombianos expulsaban a niños españoles de las canchas de deporte de los barrios). Seguramente hasta este votante de VOX antes votaba a PSOE, o PP, partidos convencionales, pero claro, las putadas que nos han hecho los últimos años, hacen que cambien de voto y de ideas.
La inmigración contra España ha sido una catástrofe y lo que tiene que venir es peor. Así que, muy mal al tipo por decir nada directamente a nadie, pero es bastante peor lo que la inmigración en general ha traído a España y puedo entender su cabreo absoluto. Espero que critiques abiertamente cuando los "panchitos" cometen violaciones (recuerdo el caso de 12 panchitos que fueron detenidos hace 10 años por violar a más de 25 españolas en el Parque del Oeste en Madrid, y decían que las "violaban en respuesta a las violaciones de los conquistadores españoles"). Supongo que esto es mucho más racista que el que el tipo ese le diga a otra que es una "panchita" y no veo a los inmigrantes decir nada contra ese racismo que tienen muchos sudamericanos entre sí y contra España.
Yo he comentado varias veces que mi punto favorito de Vox es la parte de inmigracion, yo como inmigrante que soy, se lo que es la buena y la mala inmigracion, y que deberian expulsar de inmediato a personas con un minimo de antecedentes y despellejar a los inmigrantes violadores o asesinos aqui, nada de devolvernos, hacemos cuero con ellos, me da igual.
La inmigracion es un problema aqui en España porque han sido muy permisivos a la hora de atajar este problema, eso de las ayudas de familia numerosa no es un cuento porque cuando estuve en un despacho de arquitectos en Getafe me contaban los jefes que habia una comunidad del norte de africa, que no me acuerdo el nombre, que en Getafe se dedicaban a protestar por la independencia de su pais algo asi, pero muchos de ellos cobrando ayudas cojonudas dicho por ellos mismos, y era por eso que admiraban a la gente como yo que venia con toda la legalidad y semejanza a España pues a laborar.
Yo vine con un par de maletas y un pasaporte español que no significa nada al parecer porque muchos se la pueden sacar en la caja de cereales, pero lo importante es la herencia familiar y cultural la cual me ha hecho sentirme identificado apenas llegue, por eso yo lo unico que les pido a gente como tu, Duff o perikolez que no metan a todos en un mismo saco, que entiendo el problema migratorio y tuerzo mi mano para ayudar, pero hablar como cristiano viejo sin logica alguna, sin ver a la persona y su trayectoria, no es lo correcto. Queda en sus manos decidir, no en las mias, eso esta claro.
Y ya que mencionas historias de inmigrantes que dan el asco total, pues contare otra anecdota:
Mi familia me vino a visitar a los 3 meses de haberme mudado aqui a Madrid y bueno, ellos querian echarse unas compritas con el H&M de Gran Via. Total que yo estaba hasta los cojones de las compras y me sente en un banco que habia dentro de la tienda hasta que entra un ecuatoria/boliviano/peruano, no se que era, pero por ahi va la cosa, con unas cornetas de mierda con el reggaeton puesto a alto volumen, ya habiendo una musica de fondo bastante decente. Lo que hice yo fue quedarmele viendo como que "Tio, que coño haces?" eso como por 4 segundos, y luego lo que hago es ver el movil, hasta que veo las piernas de una figura, el tio se me ha acerdado y me ha dicho "Tu que haces mirando español de mierda, te crees mejor que yo?", desde ese momento el tio se condeno la vida, pues penso que era de esas personas nativas peninsulares de aqui que le tienen miedo a estas personas porque tienen navajas y tal, pero lo que no sabia este tontorron era que yo me he enfrentado a las armas en Venezuela, aqui el miedo es casi inexistente, y el unico que existe es por gente como el. Me levante, y le dije con acento muy latino para que se diera cuenta que no era de aqui fue "Mas te vale sacar una navaja o algo porque como ves te llevo 2 cabezas maldito loco", ahi una chica que trabajaba en la tienda se asusto y nos separo, no paso a mas de ahi, pero si no venia nadie le iba a arrancar la cabeza y la iba a llevar a Ecuador de una patada.
Si, estoy en contra de la inmigracion de la que dices. Y si, me parecio tambien MUY repugnante el tipo que llamaba panchita a la becaria que solo estaba haciendo su trabajo.
Yo creo recordar que tenía cercano a un 4% de Fennoescandian en el K36. Pero en 23andme me sale 0% Escandinavo. De hecho, sólo tengo un 8% de NW European. El resto Spanish.
Recuerda cuando puedas el k36 y si puedes tambien hazte el k47 que es bastante bueno. Y no, no estoy cuestionando tu ancestria, por si acaso.
samario
02-15-2020, 04:06 PM
El k36 es el mismo de GEDmatch, creo que me gusta más éste que el k47.
Amerindian 24.49
Arabian 4.84
Armenian 2.61
Basque 2.56
East Med 5.58
Fennoscandian 0.21
French 3.82
Iberian 9.12
Italian 10.79
Near Eastern 12.15
North African 1.41
North Atlantic 2.88
North Sea 3.62
Northeast African 0.99
Pygmy 1.30
Siberian 1.10
South Asian 0.19
West African 9.85
West Caucasian 1.76
West Med 0.73
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 04:15 PM
¿Cuáles tenéis con más de un 5%?
Míos:
Iberian 34.22
Basque 11.07
Italian 10.21
East Central Euro 9.60
North Atlantic 9.34
West Mditerranean 8.43
North Sea 5.53
East_Balkan 5.97 Pct
East_Med 8.69 Pct
Iberian 22.50 Pct
Italian 22.51 Pct
North_Sea 8.81 Pct
Record en italiano en este thread
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 04:19 PM
El k36 es el mismo de GEDmatch, creo que me gusta más éste que el k47.
Amerindian 24.49
Arabian 4.84
Armenian 2.61
Basque 2.56
East Med 5.58
Fennoscandian 0.21
French 3.82
Iberian 9.12
Italian 10.79
Near Eastern 12.15
North African 1.41
North Atlantic 2.88
North Sea 3.62
Northeast African 0.99
Pygmy 1.30
Siberian 1.10
South Asian 0.19
West African 9.85
West Caucasian 1.76
West Med 0.73
Bro y que sabes de tu ascendencia amerindia? Sabes de que tribu son o solo te haces la idea?
Gaska
02-15-2020, 04:26 PM
Pues hace 20 años Madrid estaba lleno de grupos neonazis, y en los 80 había aún más.
Y bueno, los jóvenes de 20 años de ciertos barrios de Madrid serán liberales o progres. Pero la gente cambia (yo mismo) y además España es un país envejecido cuyo grueso de la población tiene más de 40 años.
Estadísticamente la juventud en este país no pinta nada (y de hecho España es un país hecho por y para gente vieja o mayor de 50 años, y te das cuenta de eso cuando durante la crisis quitaron la calefacción de las universidades y redujeron las becas, pero no quitaron la calefacción de los hospitales ni bajaron las pensiones). El español promedio jamás ha tratado con un inmigrante más allá de pedir algo en un bar o cosas así, no ha estudiado con inmigrantes, no ha tenido amigos inmigrantes, no ha hablado con un inmigrante.
No creo que jamás llegues a darte cuenta de cómo es el español promedio realmente (a no ser que tengas 45 años o más)
Como es el español promedio?, a que te refieres?, a nuestra actitud o al trato con los extranjeros?
A mi me parece un escándalo lo que está pasando con la inmigración o lo controlamos de alguna manera o nos vamos al carajo. Conozco un pueblo de 1.700 habitantes con 100 familias de moros, ninguno de ellos trabaja y reciben 450 euros de subsidio por persona, mas escuela, sanidad y en muchos casos ayuda de vivienda. Alguién cree que vamos a poder mantener eso mucho tiempo?
Desde luego la gente no es tonta, los sudamericanos aprenden rapidamente a funcionar en España, lo primero es hacerse un chequeo médico completo de los pies a la cabeza, después se aprenden sus derechos laborales y después la gran mayoría a trabajar en la hosteleria o en la construcción. Como en toda Europa, en España tenemos una especie de sentimiento de culpa por el pasado colonial y ellos se aprovechan habilmente de nuestras debilidades. Porqué no iban a hacerlo?, si eres amable eres débil y si eres grosero, eres un racista. En general les importa un pimiento España, solamente piensan en aprovecharse de la situación. Se que este comentario es injusto para muchos otros con preparación académica y educación superior que también han tenido que emigrar, pero por lo que yo he visto son la minoria.
Yo a los sudamericanos les preguntaría para que coño han querido la independencia si después de 200 años la mayoría de los paises están totalmente destrozados y arruinados.
samario
02-15-2020, 04:39 PM
Bro y que sabes de tu ascendencia amerindia? Sabes de que tribu son o solo te haces la idea?
No tengo la menor idea. Pero tengo 1 bisabuelo antioqueño y 2 bisabuelos tolimenses (de los Andes colombianos), entonces deben ser tribus de filiación chibcha. Por otro lado, quizás tenga algo de kogi?, una de las tribus de la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta que ha permanecido intacta genéticamente (sin mezcla), que por cierto también son chibchas. Los kogis son un caso especial pues muchos de los que se hacen llamar indígenas en Colombia en realidad son mestizos o tri-raciales como los wayúu. En últimas, debería ser chibcha mi ascendencia indígena.
Los chibchas genéticamente están a medio camino entre los indígenas de norteamérica y los andinos-amazónicos, parecido a indígenas mesoamericanos como los mayas. Algo así entiendo.
Creo que mi ascendencia indígena es más que todo norteamericana-mesoamericana por algunas calculadoras que he probado de GEDmatch... Los muiscas de por sí estaban emparentados con los mesoamericanos y la mayoría de idiomas chibchas modernos se hablan en Panamá y Costa Rica.
No sé cómo pueda determinar exactamente de dónde provenga ese aporte, aunque mi lista de prioridades la encabeza el test para hallar las subclases de mi haplogrupo paterno y quizás tomar el test autosómico con otra compañía. :D
Gota_type_
02-15-2020, 05:15 PM
Yo he comentado varias veces que mi punto favorito de Vox es la parte de inmigracion, yo como inmigrante que soy, se lo que es la buena y la mala inmigracion, y que deberian expulsar de inmediato a personas con un minimo de antecedentes y despellejar a los inmigrantes violadores o asesinos aqui, nada de devolvernos, hacemos cuero con ellos, me da igual.
La inmigracion es un problema aqui en España porque han sido muy permisivos a la hora de atajar este problema, eso de las ayudas de familia numerosa no es un cuento porque cuando estuve en un despacho de arquitectos en Getafe me contaban los jefes que habia una comunidad del norte de africa, que no me acuerdo el nombre, que en Getafe se dedicaban a protestar por la independencia de su pais algo asi, pero muchos de ellos cobrando ayudas cojonudas dicho por ellos mismos, y era por eso que admiraban a la gente como yo que venia con toda la legalidad y semejanza a España pues a laborar.
Yo vine con un par de maletas y un pasaporte español que no significa nada al parecer porque muchos se la pueden sacar en la caja de cereales, pero lo importante es la herencia familiar y cultural la cual me ha hecho sentirme identificado apenas llegue, por eso yo lo unico que les pido a gente como tu, Duff o perikolez que no metan a todos en un mismo saco, que entiendo el problema migratorio y tuerzo mi mano para ayudar, pero hablar como cristiano viejo sin logica alguna, sin ver a la persona y su trayectoria, no es lo correcto. Queda en sus manos decidir, no en las mias, eso esta claro.
Y ya que mencionas historias de inmigrantes que dan el asco total, pues contare otra anecdota:
Mi familia me vino a visitar a los 3 meses de haberme mudado aqui a Madrid y bueno, ellos querian echarse unas compritas con el H&M de Gran Via. Total que yo estaba hasta los cojones de las compras y me sente en un banco que habia dentro de la tienda hasta que entra un ecuatoria/boliviano/peruano, no se que era, pero por ahi va la cosa, con unas cornetas de mierda con el reggaeton puesto a alto volumen, ya habiendo una musica de fondo bastante decente. Lo que hice yo fue quedarmele viendo como que "Tio, que coño haces?" eso como por 4 segundos, y luego lo que hago es ver el movil, hasta que veo las piernas de una figura, el tio se me ha acerdado y me ha dicho "Tu que haces mirando español de mierda, te crees mejor que yo?", desde ese momento el tio se condeno la vida, pues penso que era de esas personas nativas peninsulares de aqui que le tienen miedo a estas personas porque tienen navajas y tal, pero lo que no sabia este tontorron era que yo me he enfrentado a las armas en Venezuela, aqui el miedo es casi inexistente, y el unico que existe es por gente como el. Me levante, y le dije con acento muy latino para que se diera cuenta que no era de aqui fue "Mas te vale sacar una navaja o algo porque como ves te llevo 2 cabezas maldito loco", ahi una chica que trabajaba en la tienda se asusto y nos separo, no paso a mas de ahi, pero si no venia nadie le iba a arrancar la cabeza y la iba a llevar a Ecuador de una patada.
Si, estoy en contra de la inmigracion de la que dices. Y si, me parecio tambien MUY repugnante el tipo que llamaba panchita a la becaria que solo estaba haciendo su trabajo.
Recuerda cuando puedas el k36 y si puedes tambien hazte el k47 que es bastante bueno. Y no, no estoy cuestionando tu ancestria, por si acaso.
Es que después de que dijeras que tus antepasados son básicamente españoles y viendo que defiendes España yo no te considero extranjero. Y es sólo al tipo de inmigrante como tú (sudamericano de origen básicamente español, o básicamente europeo) el ÚNICO al que he defendido que podáis estar aquí, a fin de cuentas esta es vuestra tierra ancestral. Siempre y cuando no sean rojos antiespañoles como el Echenique, la monja esa argentina que defiende la independencia de Cataluña y otros cuantos más.
Respecto a mis K36, etc, los terminaré buscando y te citaré, pero me da bastante pereza andar buscando en 4-5 discos duros, conectarlos, etc. Pero mis medias eran bastante average español en todos. Lo único que veo diferente es en 23andme que recuerdo que tenía 3 cromosomas dibujados completamente como NW European. Todos los segmentos. Lo que parece raro para alguien q no tiene antepasados extranjeros por muchos siglos (mínimo 500 años).
Erronkari
02-15-2020, 05:20 PM
Como es el español promedio?, a que te refieres?, a nuestra actitud o al trato con los extranjeros?
A mi me parece un escándalo lo que está pasando con la inmigración o lo controlamos de alguna manera o nos vamos al carajo. Conozco un pueblo de 1.700 habitantes con 100 familias de moros, ninguno de ellos trabaja y reciben 450 euros de subsidio por persona, mas escuela, sanidad y en muchos casos ayuda de vivienda. Alguién cree que vamos a poder mantener eso mucho tiempo?
Desde luego la gente no es tonta, los sudamericanos aprenden rapidamente a funcionar en España, lo primero es hacerse un chequeo médico completo de los pies a la cabeza, después se aprenden sus derechos laborales y después la gran mayoría a trabajar en la hosteleria o en la construcción. Como en toda Europa, en España tenemos una especie de sentimiento de culpa por el pasado colonial y ellos se aprovechan habilmente de nuestras debilidades. Porqué no iban a hacerlo?, si eres amable eres débil y si eres grosero, eres un racista. En general les importa un pimiento España, solamente piensan en aprovecharse de la situación. Se que este comentario es injusto para muchos otros con preparación académica y educación superior que también han tenido que emigrar, pero por lo que yo he visto son la minoria.
Yo a los sudamericanos les preguntaría para que coño han querido la independencia si después de 200 años la mayoría de los paises están totalmente destrozados y arruinados.
En realidad las "independencias" fueron negocio para las élites que se llevaron de las narices al pueblo llano.
Y esas élites eran anglofilas, masónicas, liberales y traidoras a España.
Con las independencia salvo rencores, odios entre los propios y fracasos sistemáticos nada se sacó.
En tal caso la tontería la cometieron nuestros bisabuelos (abuelos o tatarabuelos en caso de otros) de venir a estos países en el caso de los que descendemos mayormente de inmigrantes ibéricos.
Pero en caso de las independencias no se trató de una estupidez, sino de una traición y del mayor egoísmo que puede existir.
Por eso estos países son bananeros y fallidos.
PT Tagus
02-15-2020, 05:54 PM
Voce nao tem algo das Acores??? :o
Ai chegaram bastantes franceses da Bretanha!!
Quizás algún ancestro muy antiguo, no lo sé. Solo conozco genealogía hasta mis abuelos, pero me gustaría investigar las generaciones anteriores.
En 23andMe, la primera región que me aparece es Azores, pero esto es común a todos los usuarios portugueses de TA que han realizado la prueba. La mayoría de la diáspora portuguesa en US, donde esta prueba es muy popular, tiene orígenes azorianos.
Las regiones que aparecen a continuación en la lista 23andMe son Leiria y Lisboa, de donde son mis abuelos maternos. En el siglo XIX, durante las invasiones, los franceses "pasearon" por estas regiones... :rofl:
Solo estudiando genealogía se puede estar más seguro, de lo contrario todo será mera especulación.
Samnium
02-15-2020, 07:30 PM
Quizás algún ancestro muy antiguo, no lo sé. Solo conozco genealogía hasta mis abuelos, pero me gustaría investigar las generaciones anteriores.
En 23andMe, la primera región que me aparece es Azores, pero esto es común a todos los usuarios de TA que han realizado la prueba. La mayoría de la diáspora portuguesa en US, donde esta prueba es muy popular, tiene orígenes azorianos.
Las regiones que aparecen a continuación en la lista 23andMe son Leiria y Lisboa, de donde son mis abuelos maternos. En el siglo XIX, durante las invasiones, los franceses "pasearon" por estas regiones... :rofl:
Solo estudiando genealogía se puede estar más seguro, de lo contrario todo será mera especulación.
Now that's interesting, I've never heard about Brittons "emigrating" in Iberia, atleast in recent times.
Kamal900
02-15-2020, 07:32 PM
Now that's interesting, I've never heard about Brittons "emigrating" in Iberia, atleast in recent times.
Yeah. As far as I know, they only migrated to France where they still preserved their ancient Britonnic(British) Celtic language today due to the Anglo-Saxon migrations in the early 5th century AD to the British Isles.
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 07:36 PM
G25 modern populations map
mitalit
02-15-2020, 07:45 PM
G25 modern populations map
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95580&d=1581799079 Lol, y eso?
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 07:48 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95580&d=1581799079 Lol, y eso?
Se lo he pedido a alguien en anthogenica que es un crack en estas cosas, tenían un thread con el sacando esos mapas y le he pedido el mío, pero bueno me dijo que proxima cosa que le pidiese me lo cobraba.
mitalit
02-15-2020, 07:49 PM
Se lo he pedido a alguien en anthogenica que es un crack en estas cosas, tenían un thread con el sacando esos mapas y le he pedido el mío, pero bueno me dijo que proxima cosa que le pidiese me lo cobraba.
y lo azul oscuro que es?
Rocinante
02-15-2020, 07:53 PM
y lo azul oscuro que es?
Lo azul oscuro es que no hay relación, lo verde claro que hay poquisimo, lo amarillo que hay relación medía, lo naranja media-alta, lo rojo es alta.
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 07:56 PM
Now that's interesting, I've never heard about Brittons "emigrating" in Iberia, atleast in recent times.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretones_en_Galicia_y_Asturias
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 07:57 PM
Now that's interesting, I've never heard about Brittons "emigrating" in Iberia, atleast in recent times.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretones_en_Galicia_y_Asturias
Samnium
02-15-2020, 07:57 PM
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretones_en_Galicia_y_Asturias
I know of that, that's why I said "recent migrations".
PT Tagus
02-15-2020, 08:02 PM
Now that's interesting, I've never heard about Brittons "emigrating" in Iberia, atleast in recent times.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Peninsular_War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Portugal_(1807)
Duffmannn
02-15-2020, 08:06 PM
I know of that, that's why I said "recent migrations".
I don´t know in Portugal, but during the Modern Age many british established in Cadiz and Canary Islands because were the obligatory port of exit and obligatory stop for the american trade between Hispanic America and Europe. Cadiz, and in a minor extense Malaga, also because were near Gibraltar. It is somewhat common there to have recent british ancestry in these regions (not to mention the contemporary british migration since the 1990´s in some provinces: Málaga, Alicante and Baleares mainly, a million of them)
Some examples of famous people of british origin:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert%C3%ADn_Osborne
[The family of this man has a known brandy and wine trademark, Osborne, that invented the Osborne´s bull]
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriano_Weyler
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_de_la_C%C3%A1mara_y_Livermoore
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayetana_Fitz-James_Stuart
Gota_type_
02-15-2020, 08:45 PM
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayetana_Fitz-James_Stuart
Esta última es la heredera (su hijo en realidad) legítima al trono de Escocia, pues son de la rama Estuardo.
https://www.elmundo.es/loc/2014/02/20/5305fd9ee2704ed9468b4577.html
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2014/02/20/13929015124014.jpg
Gaska
02-15-2020, 08:55 PM
En realidad las "independencias" fueron negocio para las élites que se llevaron de las narices al pueblo llano.
Y esas élites eran anglofilas, masónicas, liberales y traidoras a España.
Con las independencia salvo rencores, odios entre los propios y fracasos sistemáticos nada se sacó.
En tal caso la tontería la cometieron nuestros bisabuelos (abuelos o tatarabuelos en caso de otros) de venir a estos países en el caso de los que descendemos mayormente de inmigrantes ibéricos.
Pero en caso de las independencias no se trató de una estupidez, sino de una traición y del mayor egoísmo que puede existir.
Por eso estos países son bananeros y fallidos.
Lo que mal empieza, mal acaba. Leyendo la historia de Argentina lo que mas duele son los fusilamientos de Liniers, Gutiérrez de la Concha, José de Córdoba, Allende, mi paisano Martín de Alzaga y demás patriotas que habían defendido el Virreinato de los chingaburros ingleses
Como dijo el Virrey Liniers-"La conducta de los de Buenos Aires con la Madre Patria, en la que se halla debido el atroz usurpador Bonaparte, es igual a la de un hijo que viendo a su padre enfermo, pero de un mal del que probablemente se salvaría, lo asesina en la cama para heredarlo.”
Visto lo visto, la cagaron, y no contentos con ello, siguen cagándola.
gixajo
02-15-2020, 09:06 PM
The Times, sábado 14 de septiembre de 1807, "Evacuation of South America": "El ataque sobre Buenos Aires ha
fracasado y hace ya tiempo que no queda un solo soldado británico en la parte española de Sudamérica. Los
detalles de este desastre, quizás el más grande que haya sufrido nuestro país en toda su historia, fueron publicados
ayer en un número extraordinario. El comandante Whitelocke parece haber estado en la más perfecta ignorancia,
tanto acerca del país invadido como sobre la resistencia que cabía esperar. Las columnas británicas se encontraron
con una oposición decidida, en cada calle, desde cada casa.La actitud fue tan resuelta y gallarda como pocas veces
se ha visto".
Bell´s Weekly Messenger: "Nuestro orgullo nacional ha sido mancillado. Los mulatos españoles han aprendido a
despreciarnos. Un ejército de efectivos suficientes, de alta disciplina y espíritu de lucha, ha sido dispersado por
una turba sudamericana. Hemos sido burlados de la forma más vergonzosa".
Sir Walter Scott: "Nuestros principales mercaderes industriales habían imaginado negocios ilimitados en el Río de
la Plata. Resultó que las inmensas llanuras que rodean a Buenos Aires estaban pobladas por una suerte de
cristianos salvajes llamados gauchos, cuyo principal moblaje consiste en cráneos de caballo, cuyo único alimento
es carne cruda y agua, cuyo empleo es atrapar ganado salvaje. y cuya diversión máxima es cabalgar en caballos
salvajes hasta reventarlos. Bien: los soldados ingleses descubrieron que estos hombres preferían su independencia
nacional a los algodones y muselinas." (que pretendían vender los comerciantes ingleses, agregamos nosotros).
Capitán Parker Carroll: "Este país está maduro y obstinadamente decidido a convertirse en una nación
independiente".
Cabe resaltar que los prisioneros de entonces, siendo oficiales, recibían sueldo y eran alojados en casas de
familias respetables.
Lord Castlereagh: "En adelante, Inglaterra debe favorecer la emancipación de estas colonias, para lo cual debemos
presentarnos sólo en el rol de auxiliares o protectores. El interés principal de este asunto es quitar a nuestro
enemigo (España) y abrir a nuestras manufacturas los mercados de ese gran continente".
Cristiano viejo
02-16-2020, 01:07 AM
Como es el español promedio?, a que te refieres?, a nuestra actitud o al trato con los extranjeros?
A mi me parece un escándalo lo que está pasando con la inmigración o lo controlamos de alguna manera o nos vamos al carajo. Conozco un pueblo de 1.700 habitantes con 100 familias de moros, ninguno de ellos trabaja y reciben 450 euros de subsidio por persona, mas escuela, sanidad y en muchos casos ayuda de vivienda. Alguién cree que vamos a poder mantener eso mucho tiempo?
Desde luego la gente no es tonta, los sudamericanos aprenden rapidamente a funcionar en España, lo primero es hacerse un chequeo médico completo de los pies a la cabeza, después se aprenden sus derechos laborales y después la gran mayoría a trabajar en la hosteleria o en la construcción. Como en toda Europa, en España tenemos una especie de sentimiento de culpa por el pasado colonial y ellos se aprovechan habilmente de nuestras debilidades. Porqué no iban a hacerlo?, si eres amable eres débil y si eres grosero, eres un racista. En general les importa un pimiento España, solamente piensan en aprovecharse de la situación. Se que este comentario es injusto para muchos otros con preparación académica y educación superior que también han tenido que emigrar, pero por lo que yo he visto son la minoria.
Sí señor :thumb001:
O expulsamos a todos los inmigrantes, o desapareceremos como pueblo. Quien no quiera ver esto, una de dos, o es subnormal profundo o es un puto traidor.
Yo a los sudamericanos les preguntaría para que coño han querido la independencia si después de 200 años la mayoría de los paises están totalmente destrozados y arruinados.
No sólo habría que preguntarles eso, habría que preguntarles por qué ese afán en querer ser españoles. No quisieron pertenecer a España hace 200 años, pues ahora que se jodan.
alnortedelsur
02-16-2020, 05:39 AM
Mi dodecad Eurasia 7, de Admixture studio:
https://i.imgur.com/XG7Q03T.png
Oracles:
Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1.3 01/12/2019
Finished reading population data. 167 populations found.
7 components mode.
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Mixed Mode:
1 56.64% Finnish_D + 43.36% Egyptans @ 3.736
2 57.42% FIN + 42.58% Egyptans @ 3.982
3 59.77% Norwegian_D + 40.23% Egyptans @ 3.989
4 58.98% Swedish_D + 41.02% Egyptans @ 4.001
5 62.11% Russian_D + 37.89% Egyptans @ 4.532
6 55.86% Lithuanians + 44.14% Egyptans @ 4.543
7 55.86% Lithuanian_D + 44.14% Egyptans @ 4.590
8 59.77% Belorussian + 40.23% Egyptans @ 4.609
9 61.33% Polish_D + 38.67% Egyptans @ 4.767
10 62.11% Orkney_1KG + 37.89% Egyptans @ 4.778
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% N_Italian_D @ 10.825
2 100% North_Italian @ 10.883
3 100% TSI @ 12.451
4 100% Romanians @ 12.719
5 100% Bulgarians_Y @ 13.015
6 100% Bulgarian_D @ 13.114
7 100% Tuscan @ 13.314
8 100% OTHERS_D @ 13.353
9 100% O_Italian_D @ 14.783
10 100% Portuguese_D @ 14.981
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% OTHERS_D + 50% Portuguese_D @ 6.775
2 50% OTHERS_D + 50% IBS @ 7.096
3 50% OTHERS_D + 50% Spaniards @ 7.170
4 50% OTHERS_D + 50% Spanish_D @ 7.288
5 50% Russian + 50% Morocco_Jews @ 7.466
6 50% Russian_D + 50% Morocco_Jews @ 7.719
7 50% Morocco_Jews + 50% Swedish_D @ 7.984
8 50% Morocco_Jews + 50% Norwegian_D @ 8.006
9 50% Russian_B + 50% Morocco_Jews @ 8.211
10 50% Morocco_Jews + 50% Belorussian @ 8.357
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Spanish_D + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.427
2 33% IBS + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.558
3 33% Spaniards + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.668
4 33% French_Basque + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.806
5 33% Portuguese_D + 33% Sicilian_D + 33% Chuvashs @ 6.930
6 33% Portuguese_D + 33% Ashkenazi_D + 33% Chuvashs @ 7.076
7 33% Portuguese_D + 33% Ashkenazy_Jews + 33% Chuvashs @ 7.190
8 33% Spanish_D + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Sephardic_Jews @ 7.198
9 33% OTHERS_D + 33% OTHERS_D + 33% French_Basque @ 7.209
10 33% OTHERS_D + 33% OTHERS_D + 33% Spanish_D @ 7.211
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% IBS + 25% IBS + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Morocco_Jews @ 6.030
2 25% Spaniards + 25% Spaniards + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Morocco_Jews @ 6.208
3 25% Spanish_D + 25% Spanish_D + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Morocco_Jews @ 6.290
4 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% S_Italian_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.291
5 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Ashkenazi_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.332
6 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Sicilian_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.352
7 25% IBS + 25% IBS + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Sephardic_Jews @ 6.359
8 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% S_Italian_Sicilian_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.470
9 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Ashkenazy_Jews + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.500
10 25% Spanish_D + 25% Spanish_D + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Sephardic_Jews @ 6.624
gixajo
02-16-2020, 04:04 PM
Mi dodecad Eurasia 7, de Admixture studio:
https://i.imgur.com/XG7Q03T.png
Oracles:
Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1.3 01/12/2019
Finished reading population data. 167 populations found.
7 components mode.
--------------------------------
Mixed Mode:
1 56.64% Finnish_D + 43.36% Egyptans @ 3.736
2 57.42% FIN + 42.58% Egyptans @ 3.982
3 59.77% Norwegian_D + 40.23% Egyptans @ 3.989
4 58.98% Swedish_D + 41.02% Egyptans @ 4.001
5 62.11% Russian_D + 37.89% Egyptans @ 4.532
6 55.86% Lithuanians + 44.14% Egyptans @ 4.543
7 55.86% Lithuanian_D + 44.14% Egyptans @ 4.590
8 59.77% Belorussian + 40.23% Egyptans @ 4.609
9 61.33% Polish_D + 38.67% Egyptans @ 4.767
10 62.11% Orkney_1KG + 37.89% Egyptans @ 4.778
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% N_Italian_D @ 10.825
2 100% North_Italian @ 10.883
3 100% TSI @ 12.451
4 100% Romanians @ 12.719
5 100% Bulgarians_Y @ 13.015
6 100% Bulgarian_D @ 13.114
7 100% Tuscan @ 13.314
8 100% OTHERS_D @ 13.353
9 100% O_Italian_D @ 14.783
10 100% Portuguese_D @ 14.981
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% OTHERS_D + 50% Portuguese_D @ 6.775
2 50% OTHERS_D + 50% IBS @ 7.096
3 50% OTHERS_D + 50% Spaniards @ 7.170
4 50% OTHERS_D + 50% Spanish_D @ 7.288
5 50% Russian + 50% Morocco_Jews @ 7.466
6 50% Russian_D + 50% Morocco_Jews @ 7.719
7 50% Morocco_Jews + 50% Swedish_D @ 7.984
8 50% Morocco_Jews + 50% Norwegian_D @ 8.006
9 50% Russian_B + 50% Morocco_Jews @ 8.211
10 50% Morocco_Jews + 50% Belorussian @ 8.357
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Spanish_D + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.427
2 33% IBS + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.558
3 33% Spaniards + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.668
4 33% French_Basque + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Morocco_Jews @ 6.806
5 33% Portuguese_D + 33% Sicilian_D + 33% Chuvashs @ 6.930
6 33% Portuguese_D + 33% Ashkenazi_D + 33% Chuvashs @ 7.076
7 33% Portuguese_D + 33% Ashkenazy_Jews + 33% Chuvashs @ 7.190
8 33% Spanish_D + 33% Chuvashs + 33% Sephardic_Jews @ 7.198
9 33% OTHERS_D + 33% OTHERS_D + 33% French_Basque @ 7.209
10 33% OTHERS_D + 33% OTHERS_D + 33% Spanish_D @ 7.211
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% IBS + 25% IBS + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Morocco_Jews @ 6.030
2 25% Spaniards + 25% Spaniards + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Morocco_Jews @ 6.208
3 25% Spanish_D + 25% Spanish_D + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Morocco_Jews @ 6.290
4 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% S_Italian_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.291
5 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Ashkenazi_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.332
6 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Sicilian_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.352
7 25% IBS + 25% IBS + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Sephardic_Jews @ 6.359
8 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% S_Italian_Sicilian_D + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.470
9 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Portuguese_D + 25% Ashkenazy_Jews + 25% Chuvashs @ 6.500
10 25% Spanish_D + 25% Spanish_D + 25% Chuvashs + 25% Sephardic_Jews @ 6.624
Supongo que serán los mismos resultados que el Dodecad 7 de GedMatch, no sé qué utilidad puede tener este análisis especificamente en ralación con otros, éste es el mío:
https://i.postimg.cc/44QmH7sy/dodecadk7.jpg (https://postimg.cc/kDDnk5VP)
PT Tagus
02-16-2020, 06:53 PM
Se lo he pedido a alguien en anthogenica que es un crack en estas cosas, tenían un thread con el sacando esos mapas y le he pedido el mío, pero bueno me dijo que proxima cosa que le pidiese me lo cobraba.
Es el usuario ph2ter quien hace estos mapas. Todavía no tengo ese mapa con los nombres de las regiones.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95580&d=1581799079 Lol, y eso?
Si desea un mapa como ese, primero debe pedir Global 25.
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/10/genetic-ancestry-online-store-to-be.html
Hay un hilo sobre este tema aquí en TA.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?307069-G25-Similarity-Maps-to-Modern-Europeans
mitalit
02-19-2020, 07:51 PM
Ya tengo el k36
gixajo
02-20-2020, 10:12 AM
Ya tengo el k36
Qué k36?
Rocinante
02-20-2020, 10:25 AM
Qué k36?
El de LM Genetics, subio un post con sus resultados.
mitalit
02-20-2020, 11:33 AM
Qué k36?
Con el k36 de gedmatch me han hecho esto https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315739-My-k36-ancestral-report-LM-GENETICS
gixajo
02-20-2020, 01:54 PM
Con el k36 de gedmatch me han hecho esto https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315739-My-k36-ancestral-report-LM-GENETICS
¿Grátis o pagando?
¿Varía algo el nuevo mapa del mapa del k36 de la página francesa esa?
mitalit
02-20-2020, 02:17 PM
¿Grátis o pagando?
¿Varía algo el nuevo mapa del mapa del k36 de la página francesa esa?
Pagando 10 euros, si el mapa varia bastante
Cristiano viejo
02-21-2020, 05:21 AM
Eurogenes k13
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCZldTIfd-EPjDlpQiFNcHwOtZus9Qdll3pB48zdQG0/edit#gid=0
Defcon2
02-25-2020, 03:27 PM
Con el k36 de gedmatch me han hecho esto https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315739-My-k36-ancestral-report-LM-GENETICS
Mi reporte: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a75KorKtwR0FaF04H7dpQVkXTeWDU8VT/view
Rocinante
02-25-2020, 03:33 PM
Mi reporte: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a75KorKtwR0FaF04H7dpQVkXTeWDU8VT/view
Interesante. Justo te iba a pedir que postearas en este thread el k36 de eurogenes y el k47 de yourdnaportal. Por lo visto, algun pariente sardo tienes, ya el west_med tuyo es fuera de lo común, encima tienes las agallas de batir mi record de italian en k36 cabronazo : lmao me has tumbado el record. Tienes mucho italian y west_med junto, sabes de donde son todos tus bisabuelos?
Defcon2
02-25-2020, 03:49 PM
Interesante. Justo te iba a pedir que postearas en este thread el k36 de eurogenes y el k47 de yourdnaportal. Por lo visto, algun pariente sardo tienes, ya el west_med tuyo es fuera de lo común, encima tienes las agallas de batir mi record de italian en k36 cabronazo : lmao me has tumbado el record. Tienes mucho italian y west_med junto, sabes de donde son todos tus bisabuelos?
Solo tengo constancia de los padres de un abuelo, todos fueron de la provincia de Badajoz. El resto ni idea.
Lo único "especial" es un apellido gallego de un abuelo.
K47:
Population
Percentage
Kushitic
0.00%
North Iberian
12.79%
East Iberian
14.43%
Tibeto Burman
0.00%
North African
5.64%
South Caucasian
0.00%
North Caucasian
0.01%
Paleo Balkan
3.73%
Turkic Altai
0.00%
Proto Austronesian
0.00%
Nilotic
0.00%
East Mediterranean
10.08%
Omotic
0.00%
Munda
0.00%
North Amerind
0.00%
Arabic
0.00%
East European
0.00%
Central African Hunter Gatherer
0.28%
Andean
0.05%
Indo Chinese
0.00%
South Indian
0.00%
North East Asian
0.00%
Volgan
0.52%
Mongolian
0.00%
Siberian
0.00%
North Sea Germanic
7.04%
Celtic
10.90%
West African
1.86%
West Finnic
0.00%
Uralic
0.00%
Sahelian
0.00%
North West Indian
0.00%
East African Hunter Gatherer
0.46%
East Asian
0.00%
Amuro Manchurian
0.00%
Scando Germanic
9.06%
Iranian
2.35%
South African Hunter Gatherer
0.03%
Amazonian
0.00%
Baltic
1.52%
Malay
0.00%
Meso Amerind
0.00%
South Chinese
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
West Mediterranean
16.36%
Pamirian
0.00%
Central Mediterranean
2.88%
Rocinante
02-25-2020, 03:59 PM
Solo tengo constancia de los padres de un abuelo, todos fueron de la provincia de Badajoz. El resto ni idea.
Lo único "especial" es un apellido gallego de un abuelo.
K47:
Population
Percentage
Kushitic
0.00%
North Iberian
12.79%
East Iberian
14.43%
Tibeto Burman
0.00%
North African
5.64%
South Caucasian
0.00%
North Caucasian
0.01%
Paleo Balkan
3.73%
Turkic Altai
0.00%
Proto Austronesian
0.00%
Nilotic
0.00%
East Mediterranean
10.08%
Omotic
0.00%
Munda
0.00%
North Amerind
0.00%
Arabic
0.00%
East European
0.00%
Central African Hunter Gatherer
0.28%
Andean
0.05%
Indo Chinese
0.00%
South Indian
0.00%
North East Asian
0.00%
Volgan
0.52%
Mongolian
0.00%
Siberian
0.00%
North Sea Germanic
7.04%
Celtic
10.90%
West African
1.86%
West Finnic
0.00%
Uralic
0.00%
Sahelian
0.00%
North West Indian
0.00%
East African Hunter Gatherer
0.46%
East Asian
0.00%
Amuro Manchurian
0.00%
Scando Germanic
9.06%
Iranian
2.35%
South African Hunter Gatherer
0.03%
Amazonian
0.00%
Baltic
1.52%
Malay
0.00%
Meso Amerind
0.00%
South Chinese
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
West Mediterranean
16.36%
Pamirian
0.00%
Central Mediterranean
2.88%
Madre mía cuanto scando germanic, al parecer también le sale mucho a los extremeños, total ustedes son una mezcla de astur-leoneses y galaico-portugueses que son los que marcan ese componente. Otra cosa típica de los occidentales ibéricos es que se supere el 3% en norafricano. Lo curioso para mi es que tienes más east iberian que west iberian, eso es curioso, y lo otro es tu west mediterranean y tu east mediterranean, mas tipico de los italianos. Tienes unos resultados algo atípicos dentro de lo típico, SUPER interesante.
Defcon2
02-25-2020, 04:06 PM
Resultados algo atípicos dentro de lo típico, buena definición.
PT Tagus
02-25-2020, 05:34 PM
No soy español, pero hay una unidad genética en la Península Ibérica, por lo que no es irracional compartir algunos de mis resultados... :D
Sobre el K36, aquí esta mi reporte:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DVHrtE5HKgHDLdULNF4ZwJUj7oEK1mJj/view
Rocinante
02-25-2020, 05:35 PM
No soy español, pero hay una unidad genética en la Península Ibérica, por lo que no es irracional compartir algunos de mis resultados... :D
Sobre el K36, aquí esta mi reporte:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DVHrtE5HKgHDLdULNF4ZwJUj7oEK1mJj/view
Los portugueses son mas que bienvenidos a este thread. Gracias por el aporte.
PT Tagus
02-25-2020, 10:58 PM
Mi mapa de similitud K36
https://i.postimg.cc/c0fKW4TN/k36.png
Rocinante
02-25-2020, 11:05 PM
Mi mapa de similitud K36
https://i.postimg.cc/c0fKW4TN/k36.png
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89703&d=1564224772
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89704&d=1564224775
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89705&d=1564224777
PT Tagus
02-25-2020, 11:17 PM
^^
Región mediterránea y los Balcanes con altos valores de similitud. En mi caso, el componente de Europa sudoccidental y Alpes es muy pronunciado, y valores interesantes en parte de Europa occidental (Francia, Bélgica).
Rocinante
02-25-2020, 11:34 PM
^^
Región mediterránea y los Balcanes con altos valores de similitud. En mi caso, el componente de Europa sudoccidental y Alpes es muy pronunciado, y valores interesantes en parte de Europa occidental (Francia, Bélgica).
Exactamente querido amigo, buen analisis. Este mapa me parece un poquito desactualizado, creo que los mapas de g25 de anthrogenica son muchisimo mejores.
PT Tagus
02-25-2020, 11:38 PM
Exactamente querido amigo, buen analisis. Este mapa me parece un poquito desactualizado, creo que los mapas de g25 de anthrogenica son muchisimo mejores.
Sí, por cierto tengo que pedirle a Ph2ter que haga más mapas para mí. :lol:
Rocinante
02-25-2020, 11:44 PM
Sí, por cierto tengo que pedirle a Ph2ter que haga más mapas para mí. :lol:
You should, they are extremely cool and useful, better than the k36.
alnortedelsur
02-26-2020, 05:43 AM
No me he hecho hasta ahora el G25, pero aquí están mis mapas de K36:
https://i.imgur.com/3RGcCIE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XFlKS9v.png
gixajo
02-26-2020, 01:14 PM
Ya puse el mío en su día, pero lo vuelvo a poner.
https://i.postimg.cc/dQkHr386/k36.png (https://postimages.org/)bp gasoline near me (https://gasstation-nearme.com/bp)
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 01:17 PM
No me he hecho hasta ahora el G25, pero aquí están mis mapas de K36:
https://i.imgur.com/3RGcCIE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XFlKS9v.png
Deberias sacarte el G25, que esos mapas de k36 estan super desactualizados, incluso el gedmatch ya dejo de ser referencia. Yo con el G25 porfin veo resultados que me caen como anillo al dedo, y nunca se dejan de actualizar las calculadoras. Recomendado 100%, esto igual para gixajo.
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 04:03 PM
Solo tengo constancia de los padres de un abuelo, todos fueron de la provincia de Badajoz. El resto ni idea.
Lo único "especial" es un apellido gallego de un abuelo.
K47:
Population
Percentage
Kushitic
0.00%
North Iberian
12.79%
East Iberian
14.43%
Tibeto Burman
0.00%
North African
5.64%
South Caucasian
0.00%
North Caucasian
0.01%
Paleo Balkan
3.73%
Turkic Altai
0.00%
Proto Austronesian
0.00%
Nilotic
0.00%
East Mediterranean
10.08%
Omotic
0.00%
Munda
0.00%
North Amerind
0.00%
Arabic
0.00%
East European
0.00%
Central African Hunter Gatherer
0.28%
Andean
0.05%
Indo Chinese
0.00%
South Indian
0.00%
North East Asian
0.00%
Volgan
0.52%
Mongolian
0.00%
Siberian
0.00%
North Sea Germanic
7.04%
Celtic
10.90%
West African
1.86%
West Finnic
0.00%
Uralic
0.00%
Sahelian
0.00%
North West Indian
0.00%
East African Hunter Gatherer
0.46%
East Asian
0.00%
Amuro Manchurian
0.00%
Scando Germanic
9.06%
Iranian
2.35%
South African Hunter Gatherer
0.03%
Amazonian
0.00%
Baltic
1.52%
Malay
0.00%
Meso Amerind
0.00%
South Chinese
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
West Mediterranean
16.36%
Pamirian
0.00%
Central Mediterranean
2.88%
Oye tio puedes subir por aqui tu World Nicola 25 del Vahaduo? Curiosidad
Defcon2
02-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Oye tio puedes subir por aqui tu World Nicola 25 del Vahaduo? Curiosidad
Target: Def_scaled
Distance: 3.0149% / 0.03014897
97.4 SouthwestEuropean
2.0 EastAsianJapanese
0.6 SouthAfricanBushman
Target: Def_scaled
Distance: 3.0498% / 0.03049834 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 SouthwestEuropean
1.8 EastAsianJapanese
0.2 NorthAfricanBerberWest
Distance to: Def_scaled
0.03321372 SouthwestEuropean
0.06345772 CentralWestEuropean
0.06949060 SouthEuropean
0.08253886 SoutheastEuropean
0.08680735 CentralEastEuropean
0.08872690 NorthwestEuropean
0.10345846 NorthEuropean
0.12949870 EastEuropean
0.14248773 Levantine
0.14942325 Baltic
0.15642309 Caucasian
0.19002004 NorthAfricanBerberEast
0.19153076 CentralAsian
0.21674266 Arabic
0.25050918 NorthAfricanBerberWest
0.29925696 SouthCentralAsian
0.57785948 NortheastAsian
0.59679183 NorthAmerindian
0.60069435 EastAsianJapanese
0.60691764 EastAsianHan
0.61501377 SouthAmerindian
0.63488023 Oceanian
0.64630511 CentralAmerindian
0.69701682 EastAfricanNilotic
0.70732090 EastAfricanBantu
alnortedelsur
02-26-2020, 04:11 PM
Deberias sacarte el G25, que esos mapas de k36 estan super desactualizados, incluso el gedmatch ya dejo de ser referencia. Yo con el G25 porfin veo resultados que me caen como anillo al dedo, y nunca se dejan de actualizar las calculadoras. Recomendado 100%, esto igual para gixajo.
Es una asignatura pendiente para mi :)
Y que opinion tienes sobre mi mapa de similitud?
mitalit
02-26-2020, 04:11 PM
Pongo los mios aunque ya lo puse
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5374% / 0.02537406
66.6 SouthwestEuropean
24.0 NorthwestEuropean
8.2 SoutheastEuropean
0.8 EastAsianHan
0.4 NortheastAsian
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5947% / 0.02594744 | ADC: 0.25x
67.6 SouthwestEuropean
23.4 CentralWestEuropean
7.0 NorthwestEuropean
1.0 SoutheastEuropean
0.6 EastAsianHan
0.4 NortheastAsian
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Target: Def_scaled
Distance: 3.0149% / 0.03014897
97.4 SouthwestEuropean
2.0 EastAsianJapanese
0.6 SouthAfricanBushman
Target: Def_scaled
Distance: 3.0498% / 0.03049834 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 SouthwestEuropean
1.8 EastAsianJapanese
0.2 NorthAfricanBerberWest
Distance to: Def_scaled
0.03321372 SouthwestEuropean
0.06345772 CentralWestEuropean
0.06949060 SouthEuropean
0.08253886 SoutheastEuropean
0.08680735 CentralEastEuropean
0.08872690 NorthwestEuropean
0.10345846 NorthEuropean
0.12949870 EastEuropean
0.14248773 Levantine
0.14942325 Baltic
0.15642309 Caucasian
0.19002004 NorthAfricanBerberEast
0.19153076 CentralAsian
0.21674266 Arabic
0.25050918 NorthAfricanBerberWest
0.29925696 SouthCentralAsian
0.57785948 NortheastAsian
0.59679183 NorthAmerindian
0.60069435 EastAsianJapanese
0.60691764 EastAsianHan
0.61501377 SouthAmerindian
0.63488023 Oceanian
0.64630511 CentralAmerindian
0.69701682 EastAfricanNilotic
0.70732090 EastAfricanBantu
Casi 100% Suroeste europeo, increíble. Lo otro es como atinan estas putas calculadoras del G25 que te rasca siempre el insignificante porcentaje de japonés y de SSA.
PT Tagus
02-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Mis mapas creados por Ph2ter.
datos absolutos
https://i.imgur.com/V3GeW9h.png
Escala: mínimo a mínimo + 0.01
https://i.imgur.com/3AxEup6.png
https://i.imgur.com/XDj6OP7.png
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 04:20 PM
Es una asignatura pendiente para mi :)
Y que opinion tienes sobre mi mapa de similitud?
Cabronazo que no solo te me pareces en nacionalidades, encima en el mapa del k36 :lmao falta que te llames igual. Literal tu mapa es igual que el mío, los componentes europeos que yo tengo tu los tienes casi iguales y tiene sentido, somos mayoritariamente ibéricos y tenemos sangre italiana, lo que nos va a tirar unos componentes mas del sureste europeo. Lo interesante sería que te saques el G25 para leer mucho mejor este tipo de cosas, pero ya te digo, apuesto mi bola izquierda que tus resultados se van a parecer demasiado a los míos. Otra cosa que veo es que tu no rascas nada de ME/NA, o sea tu lado ibérico se nota que gallego y portugués no es, y tu lado italiano muy del sur no será, podría ser mas del centro.
alnortedelsur
02-26-2020, 04:24 PM
Cabronazo que no solo te me pareces en nacionalidades, encima en el mapa del k36 :lmao falta que te llames igual. Literal tu mapa es igual que el mío, los componentes europeos que yo tengo tu los tienes casi iguales y tiene sentido, somos mayoritariamente ibéricos y tenemos sangre italiana, lo que nos va a tirar unos componentes mas del sureste europeo. Lo interesante sería que te saques el G25 para leer mucho mejor este tipo de cosas, pero ya te digo, apuesto mi bola izquierda que tus resultados se van a parecer demasiado a los míos. Otra cosa que veo es que tu no rascas nada de ME/NA, o sea tu lado ibérico se nota que gallego y portugués no es, y tu lado italiano muy del sur no será, podría ser mas del centro.
jajaja... yo tambien habia comparado mi mapa de K36 con el tuyo, y si son bastante similares
Gracias paisano :)
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 04:24 PM
Mis mapas creados por Ph2ter.
datos absolutos
https://i.imgur.com/V3GeW9h.png
Escala: mínimo a mínimo + 0.01
https://i.imgur.com/3AxEup6.png
https://i.imgur.com/XDj6OP7.png
Cool! Están brutales compañero, esos mapas son muchísimo más intuitivos.
PT Tagus
02-26-2020, 04:36 PM
Cool! Están brutales compañero, esos mapas son muchísimo más intuitivos.
Sí, son muy interesantes.
Resultados típicos de un ibérico, es decir, con el predominio de Iberia, y luego como poblaciones más cercanas al suroeste y sur de Francia, seguidas por el norte de Italia.
Sin embargo, no esperaba que la población más cercana fuera Ibiza. :lol:
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 04:49 PM
Sí, son muy interesantes.
Resultados típicos de un ibérico, es decir, con el predominio de Iberia, y luego como poblaciones más cercanas al suroeste y sur de Francia, seguidas por el norte de Italia.
Sin embargo, no esperaba que la población más cercana fuera Ibiza. :lol:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315726-Spain-s-regions-comparison-with-G25
Revisa ese thread, es una comparativa de poblaciones ibéricas por regiones, y vas a ver que los baleares son muy north shifted, no se que es lo que hace que tiren tan por el norte en comparación a los demás. También son mas greco-italicos que otras regiones, explicaría mucho.
alnortedelsur
02-26-2020, 04:51 PM
Los mapas de G25 de PG Tagus (siendo el Portugues) demuestran que los Españoles y Portugueses son prácticamente la misma gente.
mitalit
02-26-2020, 04:53 PM
Los mapas de G25 de PG Tagus (siendo el Portugues) demuestran que los Españoles y Portugueses son prácticamente la misma gente.
Pero los haplogrupos paternos son muy diferentes
Duffmannn
02-26-2020, 04:55 PM
Los mapas de G25 de PG Tagus (siendo el Portugues) demuestran que los Españoles y Portugueses son prácticamente la misma gente.
Como te lea Cristiano Viejo...
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 05:00 PM
Los mapas de G25 de PG Tagus (siendo el Portugues) demuestran que los Españoles y Portugueses son prácticamente la misma gente.
Y es así. Se parecen más a los gallegos genéticamente, de hecho, son casi iguales, pero viéndolo desde arriba son casi iguales, los vascos son los únicos que pueden decir que son "algo más" diferentes.
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 05:01 PM
Pero los haplogrupos paternos son muy diferentes
En proporción igual a los de Galicia y Extremadura. Los portugueses no son diferentes.
Defcon2
02-26-2020, 05:02 PM
Pero los haplogrupos paternos son muy diferentes
En Eupedia tenemos una distribución similar con los portugueses R1b destacando sobre el resto.
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 05:02 PM
Como te lea Cristiano Viejo...
Como diga que son diferentes...
alnortedelsur
02-26-2020, 05:02 PM
Pero los haplogrupos paternos son muy diferentes
No sabia eso. Pensaba que los Portuguses son mayormente R1b al igual que los Espanoles. O estamos hablando de diferentes subclades?
Perdon por mi ignorancia. La verdad es que no se casi nada de genética, y cuando leo discusiones genéticas entre foristas sobre haplogrupos, orígenes de estos haplogrupos, subclades, y todo eso. Tanto si hablan de haplogrupos, como si hablan de ADN autosómico... es que me hago todo un lío, y literalmente me pierdo :noidea:
Deberia haber aprendido mas, de tanto leer este foro, pero es que esas discusiones se me hacen complicadas de seguir, no por falta de capacidad de comprensión de mi parte (se bien que si prestase mas atención, aprenderia), pero hay mucha pereza de mi parte.
Defcon2
02-26-2020, 05:04 PM
Mis mapas son muy parecidos a los de Tagus, exceptuando Córcega y alguna coloración más intensa en Italia y el sur de Francia en el azul.
https://i.imgur.com/mUztQlu.png
https://i.imgur.com/aXMCLdM.png
Duffmannn
02-26-2020, 05:09 PM
Como diga que son diferentes...
Por supuesto que lo dice, lleva años diciéndolo basado en que ha vivido en el norte de Portugal y el sur de Galicia.
gixajo
02-26-2020, 05:10 PM
Tagus y Defcon2, podéis poner el mapa del k36 de la página francesa esta: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm?
mitalit
02-26-2020, 05:11 PM
No sabia eso. Pensaba que los Portuguses son mayormente R1b al igual que los Espanoles. O estamos hablando de diferentes subclades?
Perdon por mi ignorancia. La verdad es que no se casi nada de genética, y cuando leo discusiones genéticas entre foristas sobre haplogrupos, orígenes de estos haplogrupos, subclades, y todo eso. Tanto si hablan de haplogrupos, como si hablan de ADN autosómico... es que me hago todo un lío, y literalmente me pierdo :noidea:
Deberia haber aprendido mas, de tanto leer este foro, pero es que esas discusiones se me hacen complicadas de seguir, no por falta de capacidad de comprensión de mi parte (se bien que si prestase mas atención, aprenderia), pero hay mucha pereza de mi parte.
Yo tampoco se mucho, lo digo por el típico mapa de haplogrupos pero igual esta desactualizado
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 05:20 PM
Por supuesto que lo dice, lleva años diciéndolo basado en que ha vivido en el norte de Portugal y el sur de Galicia.
Nada mas arrastrado a despreciar a tus hermanos. Yo de verdad no sé porque tiene que dejar a España en tan mal lugar.
Además, ese no ha vivido en Galicia en su puta vida, nada más que para comerse un pulpo a la galega por Coruña. Dejá que aparezca.
PT Tagus
02-26-2020, 05:27 PM
Tagus y Defcon2, podéis poner el mapa del k36 de la página francesa esta: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm?
Mi mapa de similitud K36
https://i.postimg.cc/c0fKW4TN/k36.png
El restante
https://i.imgur.com/cSXQbN6.png
Mexico e Argentina
gixajo
02-26-2020, 05:43 PM
El restante
https://i.imgur.com/cSXQbN6.png
Mexico e Argentina
Yo no puse los del resto de continentes, pero también me da lógicamente en países Iberoaméricanos, en México el que más.
Obrigado.
PT Tagus
02-26-2020, 05:50 PM
World25_Nicola Scaled
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.8935% / 0.01893504
76.8 SouthwestEuropean
10.4 CentralWestEuropean
4.4 SouthEuropean
4.2 Arabic
2.6 WestAfricanYoruba
1.6 NorthwestEuropean
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.9620% / 0.01962023 | ADC: 0.25x
88.8 SouthwestEuropean
3.6 CentralWestEuropean
2.8 SouthEuropean
2.6 Arabic
2.2 WestAfricanYoruba
mitalit
02-26-2020, 05:54 PM
Pon tu 0.25x celtibero
Rocinante
02-26-2020, 06:06 PM
Pon tu 0.25x celtibero
Me costo demasiado, fue copiar el signature y pegarlo :lmao
World25_Nicola Scaled
Distance: 2.2716% / 0.02271648
Sources 29 Cycles: 464
52.4 SouthwestEuropean
29.2 SoutheastEuropean
9.6 NorthEuropean
6.4 NorthAfricanBerberWest
2.4 Baltic
Y mira como atina la hija de puta calculadora que el Ultimate MW K=50 mira lo que marca:
Distance: 2.3541% / 0.02354068 | ADC: 0.25x
44.8 Iberian
32.8 Greek_Albanian
13.2 North_Sea_Germanic
8.4 Northwest_African
0.8 Balto_Slavic_South
Erronkari
02-26-2020, 11:01 PM
Europa
https://i.imgur.com/D85MJvC.jpg
Asia
https://i.imgur.com/Ki2IVxF.jpg
América, África y Oceanía
https://i.imgur.com/vaC9NtE.jpg
alnortedelsur
02-27-2020, 06:33 AM
No me he hecho hasta ahora el G25, pero aquí están mis mapas de K36:
https://i.imgur.com/3RGcCIE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XFlKS9v.png
Me falto mi mapa de Asia:
https://i.imgur.com/BXUH5km.png
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 10:05 AM
Poti poti de calculadoras aleatorias.
European Ancestry calculator
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6572% / 0.02657228
62.2 Southwest_Euro
12.6 Sardinian
12.4 Ashkenazi
9.0 Western_Euro
2.0 Finnic
1.8 British_Isles
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.7133% / 0.02713273 | ADC: 0.25x
86.4 Southwest_Euro
6.8 Ashkenazi
4.2 Sardinian
2.6 Western_Euro
West Eurasian Calculator
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6214% / 0.02621375
65.8 Southwest_European
13.2 South_European
10.8 Northwest_European
7.8 North_African
2.4 Northeast_European
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6891% / 0.02689107 | ADC: 0.25x
93.4 Southwest_European
4.2 South_European
2.2 North_African
0.2 Northeast_European
Ancient Calculator by Nicola Unscaled
Target: Juan
Distance: 1.8171% / 0.01817096
47.2 Illyrian
27.6 Celtiberian
10.2 GermanicAlamannic
7.0 NABerberWest
5.2 NABerberEast
2.8 Vedic
Target: Juan
Distance: 1.8276% / 0.01827561 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 Illyrian
28.2 Celtiberian
12.0 NABerberEast
9.6 GermanicAlamannic
1.4 Vedic
Rocinante
02-27-2020, 10:19 AM
Poti Poti por aqui tambien:
European Ancestry calculator
Distance: 2.0411% / 0.02041059
47.4 Southwest_Euro
27.2 Southern_Euro
13.4 Eastern_Euro
7.8 Sardinian
3.6 Western_Euro
0.6 Scandinavia
Distance: 2.1411% / 0.02141059 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Southwest_Euro
17.2 Southern_Euro
10.4 Balkan
6.6 Eastern_Euro
West Eurasian Calculator
Distance: 2.2037% / 0.02203651
33.2 South_European
22.8 Northwest_European
17.4 Southwest_European
12.2 North_African
6.4 Northeast_European
3.2 Caucasian
2.2 Balkan
1.4 Gulf_Arab
1.2 Central_European
Distance: 2.3573% / 0.02357277 | ADC: 0.25x
48.0 Southwest_Europeanortuguese
32.8 South_European
13.0 Balkan
6.2 North_African
Ancient Calculator by Nicola Unscaled
Distance: 1.1170% / 0.01117025
34.2 GermanicSaxon
19.8 Celtiberian
17.8 GrecoRoman
13.6 NABerberWest
6.8 Baltic
5.4 Levantine
1.0 SouthAfrica
0.6 Cushitic
0.6 Mongol
0.2 EastAfrica
Distance: 1.1866% / 0.01186618 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 GermanicSaxon
25.6 Celtiberian
14.2 NABerberEast
8.2 GrecoRoman
8.0 Levantine
4.6 Thracian
4.4 Slavic
1.0 Baltic
1.0 EastAfrica
PT Tagus
02-27-2020, 10:24 AM
Ancient Calculator by Nicola Unscaled
Target: PT_Tagus
Distance: 1.2174% / 0.01217429
34.2 Celtiberian
26.0 GermanicAlamannic
21.2 Illyrian
9.6 Arabic
8.0 NABerberEast
0.6 Mongol
0.4 AmerindianSouth
Target: PT_Tagus
Distance: 1.2369% / 0.01236933 | ADC: 0.25x
33.2 Celtiberian
24.0 Illyrian
23.6 GermanicAlamannic
8.8 Arabic
6.8 NABerberEast
3.6 CelticCentralEu
West Eurasian Calculator
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.6501% / 0.01650150
55.6 Southwest_European
18.0 North_African
13.6 South_European
12.0 Northwest_European
0.4 Caucasian
0.4 Gulf_Arab
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.8580% / 0.01857952 | ADC: 0.25x
78.4 Southwest_European
8.8 North_African
8.8 South_European
4.0 Northwest_European
European Ancestry calculator
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 2.5497% / 0.02549691
64.0 Southwest_Euro
27.0 Southern_Euro
5.2 Scandinavia
3.8 Western_Euro
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 2.5800% / 0.02579975 | ADC: 0.25x
73.0 Southwest_Euro
21.2 Southern_Euro
5.8 Western_Euro
mitalit
02-27-2020, 05:52 PM
Pues otro por aquí
European Ancestry calculator
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 1.6709% / 0.01670891
27.8 Southwest_Euro
25.6 British_Isles
18.8 Western_Euro
12.6 Sardinian
9.8 Southern_Euro
5.4 Scandinavia
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 1.7740% / 0.01773984 | ADC: 0.25x
54.4 Southwest_Euro
20.4 Western_Euro
15.2 British_Isles
9.4 Balkan
0.6 Southern_Euro
West Eurasian Calculator
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.0487% / 0.02048711
52.6 Northwest_European
32.4 Southwest_European
8.2 Caucasian
6.8 North_African
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.3067% / 0.02306716 | ADC: 0.25x
61.0 Southwest_Europeanortuguese
19.6 Northwest_European
16.2 South_European
3.2 Southwest_European
Ancient Calculator by Nicola Unscaled
Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.3777% / 0.01377724
45.0 CelticBritain
18.8 Celtiberian
14.6 GrecoRoman
10.8 NABerberWest
10.0 GermanicSaxon
0.8 Mongol
Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.3966% / 0.01396635 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 CelticBritain
23.2 Celtiberian
11.2 GrecoRoman
11.2 NABerberEast
5.6 GermanicSaxon
PT Tagus
02-27-2020, 06:20 PM
Spaniard 2.0 es uno de los usuarios ibéricos que puntúa más al norte en las distintas calculadoras.
mitalit
02-27-2020, 06:24 PM
Spaniard 2.0 es uno de los usuarios ibéricos que puntúa más al norte en las distintas calculadoras.
Y no tengo ni idea de la razón, solo tengo un tatarabuelo del sur de Italia
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 06:53 PM
Y no tengo ni idea de la razón, solo tengo un tatarabuelo del sur de Italia
Eres adoptado Utiliza esta hoja de cálculo para ver qué pasa contigo, muchacho.
Escaladas.
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.7970% / 0.04797037
55.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.0 WHG
4.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
1.2 Gambian
0.6 Han
mitalit
02-27-2020, 06:56 PM
Eres adoptado Utiliza esta hoja de cálculo para ver qué pasa contigo, muchacho.
Escaladas.
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.7970% / 0.04797037
55.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.0 WHG
4.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
1.2 Gambian
0.6 Han
No lo creo, seguiría en el orfanato jaja
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.7151% / 0.03715138
51.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
Rocinante
02-27-2020, 07:01 PM
Eres adoptado Utiliza esta hoja de cálculo para ver qué pasa contigo, muchacho.
Escaladas.
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.7970% / 0.04797037
55.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.0 WHG
4.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
1.2 Gambian
0.6 Han
Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.2477% / 0.02247683
51.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
32.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.2 WHG
6.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
2.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.2 Dinka
Estas calculadoras son las mejores.
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 07:03 PM
No lo creo, seguiría en el orfanato jaja
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.7151% / 0.03715138
51.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
Joder la estepa es muy alta, es por eso.
https://i.postimg.cc/wMBp5Zn7/prom.png
^Alejandro tu WHG es bajo.
Rocinante
02-27-2020, 07:11 PM
Joder la estepa es muy alta, es por eso.
https://i.postimg.cc/wMBp5Zn7/prom.png
^Alejandro tu WHG es bajo.
Te pongo en situacion, yo soy 3/4 iberico (en un 70% gallego aprox.) mas 1/4 italiano (en un 80% siciliano del este aprox.), entonces ahi entenderas el porque tengo mas estepa que el promedio, pero menos WHG. Se que los italianos sacan mas estepa y los españoles mas WHG, aunque sacamos lo mismo en Farmer, somos famiglia.
mitalit
02-27-2020, 07:13 PM
Joder la estepa es muy alta, es por eso.
https://i.postimg.cc/wMBp5Zn7/prom.png
^Alejandro tu WHG es bajo.
Al parecer mi whg tambien es algo bajo según eso
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 07:18 PM
Te pongo en situacion, yo soy 3/4 iberico (en un 70% gallego aprox.) mas 1/4 italiano (en un 80% siciliano del este aprox.), entonces ahi entenderas el porque tengo mas estepa que el promedio, pero menos WHG. Se que los italianos sacan mas estepa y los españoles mas WHG, aunque sacamos lo mismo en Farmer, somos famiglia.
No me acordaba que algunos abuelos tuyos cocían spaghettis.
Al parecer mi whg tambien es algo bajo según eso
Por algún lado tiene que cuadrar los porcentajes, si sacas mucho de una cosa es necesario reducir otro componente. No me parece bajo.
Rocinante
02-27-2020, 07:23 PM
No me acordaba que algunos abuelos tuyos cocían spaghettis.
Por algún lado tiene que cuadrar los porcentajes, si sacas mucho de una cosa es necesario reducir otro componente. No me parece bajo.
Jajajajaja, se pusieron de acuerdo en hacer pizzas acompañado de tortilla de patatas.
mitalit
02-27-2020, 07:26 PM
No me acordaba que algunos abuelos tuyos cocían spaghettis.
Por algún lado tiene que cuadrar los porcentajes, si sacas mucho de una cosa es necesario reducir otro componente. No me parece bajo.
Una teoría puede ser que cuando los frances entraron en España dejasen su semillita por aquí (en la casa del pueblo de mis abuelos se dejaron un arma). De todas formas tu tienes bastante mas del norte de Europa en 23andme que yo así que probablemente sea mas antiguo que eso
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 07:33 PM
Una teoría puede ser que cuando los frances entraron en España dejasen su semillita por aquí (en la casa del pueblo de mis abuelos se dejaron un arma). De todas formas tu tienes bastante mas del norte de Europa en 23andme que yo así que probablemente sea mas antiguo que eso
French & German (donde saco un 10%) no es del norte de Europa. El punto álgido está en el sur de Alemania y Suiza, representa la ascendencia celta alpina antigua de Hallstatt y La Tène según Eupedia. Del norte tengo un más modesto 3.1%.
https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_French_German.png
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml#French_German
mitalit
02-27-2020, 07:41 PM
French & German (donde saco un 10%) no es del norte de Europa. El punto álgido está en el sur de Alemania y Suiza, representa la ascendencia celta alpina antigua de Hallstatt y La Tène según Eupedia. Del norte tengo un más modesto 3.1%.
https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_French_German.png
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml#French_German
Yo un 2,8 si quito el french and german y el broadly
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 07:48 PM
Sacaste Escandinavo pero si es cierto que no se refleja del todo en tus resultados.
Rocinante
02-27-2020, 07:55 PM
Sacaste Escandinavo pero si es cierto que no se refleja del todo en tus resultados.
Yo creo que la mejor herramienta para ver poblaciones modernas sera siempre G25 Global25Beta o WorldNicola25, tambien las custom sirven, pero eso de 23andme, ancestrydna, livingdna... No se fien mucho de eso.
mitalit
02-27-2020, 07:58 PM
Yo creo que la mejor herramienta para ver poblaciones modernas sera siempre G25 Global25Beta o WorldNicola25, tambien las custom sirven, pero eso de 23andme, ancestrydna, livingdna... No se fien mucho de eso.
Por lo que se de mis antepasados esta bastante bien
https://i.gyazo.com/36885e644dc4e19e1e48125f8010a1da.png
Defcon2
02-27-2020, 08:02 PM
Yo creo que la mejor herramienta para ver poblaciones modernas sera siempre G25 Global25Beta o WorldNicola25, tambien las custom sirven, pero eso de 23andme, ancestrydna, livingdna... No se fien mucho de eso.
El problema de esas calculadoras es que no se "mojan" y sacan multitud de resultados diferentes, ni siquiera se ponen de acuerdo en si es mejor utilizar escaladas o no escaladas. Las calculadoras Gedmatch ni hablo.
Por lo que se de mis antepasados esta bastante bien
https://i.gyazo.com/36885e644dc4e19e1e48125f8010a1da.png
Eso es bastante flojo para la mayoría de personas, no me fiaría de eso.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-27-2020, 08:10 PM
Me:
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 4.0900% / 0.04089951
53.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 WHG
5.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
My fiance:
Target: Trebaruna_scaled
Distance: 3.3484% / 0.03348362
50.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0 WHG
5.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.6 Yoruba
My father:
Target: Pai_Viriato_scaled
Distance: 2.8918% / 0.02891752
51.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
33.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
3.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.4 Dinka
PT Tagus
02-27-2020, 08:32 PM
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 3.7207% / 0.03720747
29.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
26.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
2.8 Yoruba
Esta cronología de 23andMe no debe ser tomada demasiado en serio.
No lo creo, seguiría en el orfanato jaja
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.7151% / 0.03715138
51.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
El componente estepario es muy alto.
¿De qué región española son sus orígenes?
mitalit
02-27-2020, 08:45 PM
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 3.7207% / 0.03720747
29.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
26.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
2.8 Yoruba
Esta cronología de 23andMe no debe ser tomada demasiado en serio.
El componente estepario es muy alto.
¿De qué región española son sus orígenes?
2/4 Salamanca (My town makes border with portugal) 1/4 Valladolid and 1/4 Basque country (it could be less)
PT Tagus
02-27-2020, 08:54 PM
2/4 Salamanca (My town makes border with portugal) 1/4 Valladolid and 1/4 Basque country (it could be less)
Me preguntaba si tenías orígenes catalanes o baleares, ya que los valores más altos del componente estepario se encuentran en esas regiones. :D
mitalit
02-27-2020, 08:56 PM
Me preguntaba si tenías orígenes catalanes o baleares, ya que los valores más altos del componente estepario se encuentran en esas regiones. :D
No solo del oeste, pero soy un 1/16 italiano del sur
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 07:57 PM
Para los que se fuman el G25 como yo, FilhoV subio esta calculadora hace poco:
Baltics:Lithuanian_PZ,0.1356773,0.1255195,0.088397 1,0.0871131,0.044562,0.035447,0.0106459,0.0156685,-0.0030065,-0.0347524,-0.0067879,-0.0129784,0.0230573,0.0315155,-0.0071118,-0.0032219,-0.0034813,-0.0016344,0.000817,0.0034265,-0.0023459,-0.0059477,0.0084426,-0.0090132,0.0005148
Baltics:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089 471,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
Basque:Basque_French,0.128051,0.1520246,0.0551727, 0.0128231,0.0564104,0.0025099,-0.00141,0.0033229,0.0305968,0.0412036,-0.0092724,0.0103408,-0.0209761,-0.0140237,0.0132192,-0.0019359,-0.0119173,0.0030278,-0.0007165,-0.0044144,0.010157,0.0024855,-0.0086397,-0.0091698,7.18e-05
Baltics:Lithuanian_PZ,0.1356773,0.1255195,0.088397 1,0.0871131,0.044562,0.035447,0.0106459,0.0156685,-0.0030065,-0.0347524,-0.0067879,-0.0129784,0.0230573,0.0315155,-0.0071118,-0.0032219,-0.0034813,-0.0016344,0.000817,0.0034265,-0.0023459,-0.0059477,0.0084426,-0.0090132,0.0005148
Baltics:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089 471,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
Basque:Basque_French,0.128051,0.1520246,0.0551727, 0.0128231,0.0564104,0.0025099,-0.00141,0.0033229,0.0305968,0.0412036,-0.0092724,0.0103408,-0.0209761,-0.0140237,0.0132192,-0.0019359,-0.0119173,0.0030278,-0.0007165,-0.0044144,0.010157,0.0024855,-0.0086397,-0.0091698,7.18e-05
Basque:Basque_Spanish,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.058286 2,0.0090081,0.0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Eastern_Europe_&_Russiaolish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.05773 82,0.04 06754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Russian_Smolensk,0.1344536,0.12326,0.07212 44,0.0663361,0.0391226,0.0249958,0.0116038,0.01269 19,0.0001025,-0.0253992,-0.003532,-0.0088234,0.0168916,0.0290039,-0.0098056,-0.0078226,-0.0033411,-0.0008392,4.72e-05,0.0017821,0.0001091,-0.004235,0.0059004,-0.0064014,0.0003291
Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0 .0695957,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0553559,0. 0364298,0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0075326,0. 0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Romanian,0.1245225,0.1340499,0.034167,0.00 87856,0.0288362,0.0030677,0.0036425,0.0059073,0.00 12475,0.0061596,-0.0034427,-0.0002098,-0.0005352,0.0080509,-0.0126626,-0.0005172,0.0059194,-0.0014823,0.0033686,-0.0030764,-0.0066882,-0.0025225,0.0037343,0.0012171,-0.0012694
Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Czech,0.1311592,0.1318625,0.0604843,0.0472 574,0.038658,0.0189217,0.0063451,0.0086623,0.00467 24,-0.0088874,-0.0016862,-0.0038965,0.0060493,0.011772,0.0017435,0.0009995,-0.0006419,-0.0001462,0.0035679,0.0028956,-0.001267,-0.0001617,0.0065132,0.0039302,0.0015935
England_Wales_&_Northwestern_Europe:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0. 0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0 057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
England_Wales_&_Northwestern_Europe:English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0. 1397525,0.0613546,0.0431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0. 0034346,0.0063902,0.0064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0 .0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
England_Wales_&_Northwestern_Europe:Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0 601319,0.0430236,0.0405922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.0 06392,0.0062789,0.0043372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0 .0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083
European_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia,0.1019155,0.1 339716,-0.0073393,-0.0395799,0.0107712,-0.0144595,-0.0010123,-0.0010294,0.0057267,0.0146208,0.0024485,-0.0003688,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.0027944,0.0018154,-0.0003409,0.0014889,-0.0012602,-0.0038586,-0.0007705,0.0027399,0.0015665,-0.0002949
European_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany,0.0973188,0.1423 773,-0.014406,-0.0499358,0.010925,-0.0187694,-0.001974,-0.0017538,0.0098579,0.0188432,0.0039622,-0.0011239,0.0025123,-0.0026699,-0.0050489,0.0030892,0.0022035,-0.0016977,-0.0007794,-0.0011255,-0.0033441,-0.0026957,0.0008751,0.0013857,0.0008143
European_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania,0.0998539,0.13 27575,-0.0092224,-0.040375,0.0094843,-0.0141475,-0.0005555,-0.001175,0.0060613,0.0137009,0.0015499,-0.0018529,0.0025678,0.0006257,-0.0044417,0.0034595,0.0016001,0.0001612,0.0004455,-0.0031721,-0.0032555,-0.0033497,0.0029245,0.0024428,-0.001056
European_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland,0.1001169,0.13684 25,-0.0073382,-0.0429994,0.0097966,-0.0154087,-0.0008812,-0.0008942,0.0081981,0.0142751,0.0011639,-0.0005932,0.0028802,0.0001662,-0.0041451,-0.001674,-0.0037648,3.18e-05,-0.0008065,-0.0040645,-0.0026776,-0.0022721,0.0016895,0.002169,0.0015267
European_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia,0.1011888,0.13151 1,-0.0064488,-0.0382755,0.0103711,-0.014335,-0.0019505,-0.0001847,0.0065447,0.0140506,0.0011205,0.0002997, 0.0021408,0.0003303,-0.0050352,-0.0002651,-0.0012125,-0.0005701,-0.0021367,-0.0031266,-0.0035687,-0.0029553,0.0006286,0.0045788,-0.0012214
European_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine,0.0994244,0.1351 162,-0.005506,-0.0401166,0.0120483,-0.0142652,-0.0010928,0.0001154,0.007772,0.0129388,0.0008038,0 .0001125,0.0024156,0.0005229,-0.0028297,-0.0018297,-0.0043223,-1.9e-05,0.0012758,-0.0046772,-0.0031258,-0.0025904,0.0007702,0.0021028,0.0010059
Finland:Finnish,0.1305931,0.0918715,0.0899057,0.07 66156,0.0317187,0.0232595,0.0087265,0.013184,0.003 1769,-0.023071,0.0036809,-0.0060345,0.0119227,0.0058077,0.0021081,-0.0012815,-0.008136,0.0006589,0.0012905,0.0027597,0.0070458,0 .0011706,0.0027937,0.0056955,0.0021076
Finland:Finnish_East,0.1265711,0.0754538,0.0952229 ,0.0812991,0.0279127,0.0239846,0.0090243,0.0163608 ,0.0052153,-0.0301419,0.0047905,-0.008887,0.0185082,0.005725,0.0008008,-0.0028109,-0.0050329,-0.0003168,-0.0020741,0.0054275,0.0088094,0.0012738,0.0022678, 0.0049162,0.0044066
France:French_Occitanie,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.0488 79,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.00389 09,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
France:French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313, 0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544, 0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
France:French_South,0.1261811,0.1447856,0.0496183, 0.0088594,0.0506907,0.0026694,0.0002686,0.0022747, 0.0276401,0.0386601,-0.0067741,0.0073649,-0.021853,-0.0135659,0.0103729,0.0027653,-0.0051034,0.0017917,0.0002154,0.0019116,0.0049911,-0.0008301,-0.0052646,-0.0075569,-0.00142
Germanic_Europe:German,0.1302626,0.1373792,0.05798 11,0.0387068,0.0400035,0.0156461,0.0040665,0.00578 65,0.003526,0.00188,-0.0044133,0.0023732,-0.0053706,-0.0025417,0.0085125,0.0032913,-0.0032728,0.0016631,0.0033669,0.0017191,0.00314,0. 002005,7.18e-05,0.0083052,0.0002774
Germanic_Europe:German_East,0.1308965,0.1384928,0. 0610936,0.0499842,0.0381225,0.0161408,0.0063158,0. 007038,0.0021988,-0.0049205,-0.0052168,-0.0017799,-3.71e-05,0.008223,0.0013064,-0.0031324,-0.0079045,0.0011876,0.0053106,-0.0007504,0.0006239,-0.0011128,0.0017716,0.0016118,-0.0003142
Germanic_Europeutch,0.1267527,0.1313048,0.0610935, 0.0461486,0.040 469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0.0080802,0.003576,0.00032 75,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909, 0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
Germanic_Europe:Belgian,0.1271867,0.1378863,0.0508 694,0.0285197,0.038879,0.0112177,0.0042389,0.00345 29,0.0074159,0.0110489,-0.0050521,0.0047014,-0.0127298,-0.0096131,0.0131448,0.0035701,-0.004404,0.00221,0.0022114,-0.0012784,0.0035491,0.0017494,-0.0014059,0.0102914,0.0011088
Greece_&_the_Balkans:Greek_Thessaly,0.119135,0.1452207,0.0 13702,-0.020026,0.0188753,-0.0051133,0.0005483,0.000769,0,0.01877,0.0026523,0 .0040963,-0.0072843,0.0056883,-0.0090933,-0.0041987,0.0021297,-0.000549,0.0041483,-0.005336,-0.0069877,0.0012777,0.0035743,0.0014057,-0.003353
Greece_&_the_Balkans:Greek_Peloponnese,0.118376,0.1438667, 0.0037713,-0.0325153,0.0159003,-0.010412,0.001645,-0.000923,-0.000409,0.018102,0.000108,0.0039467,-0.0058967,0.0037157,-0.016377,0.0023863,0.0134297,0.0003377,0.009176,-0.0007083,-0.0092753,0.003998,0.0013967,-0.0001203,-0.0033927
Greece_&_the_Balkans:Greek_Izmir,0.1146199,0.1443068,-0.0024135,-0.0345287,0.0149874,-0.0126059,0.0025145,-0.0015,-0.0022907,0.0150346,0.0018999,0.0031323,-0.003434,0.0018576,-0.0129749,0.0001989,0.0107827,-0.0001141,0.0059203,-0.0030515,-0.0060393,0.0019289,0.0002095,0.0023496,-0.0030056
Greece_&_the_Balkans:Albanian,0.1181863,0.1417511,0.015556 2,-0.0158808,0.0251586,-0.0074138,0.0033683,0.0018077,0.0006648,0.0161279, 0.0011097,0.0015486,-0.0070986,0.0066059,-0.019295,-0.0041544,0.0081273,0.0014992,0.0082962,-0.0059402,-0.0055629,0.0007212,0.0024238,0.0021991,-0.0025248
Ireland_&_Scotland:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.048 2532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318 ,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745, 0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
Ireland_&_Scotland:Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312,0.0622654,0 .0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0.0051756,0. 0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246, 0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698
Malta:Maltese,0.0919124,0.1464901,-0.0024985,-0.0434031,0.0132714,-0.0178141,-0.0044064,-0.0009231,0.0110953,0.0205244,0.0061504,0.0009739,-0.0028989,-0.0007226,-0.0042581,0.0008784,-0.0004074,-0.0037688,-0.0004871,-0.0023606,-0.0061454,-0.0025968,0.0028192,0.0011899,0.002904
Norway:Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0 534334,0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0 057267,0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Norway:Icelandic,0.1326987,0.1336267,0.067819,0.05 63097,0.0393663,0.0229619,0.0033488,0.0085188,0.00 26418,6.07e-05,-0.0054806,0.0051702,-0.0063675,-0.0090831,0.0230725,0.0052924,-0.0116909,0.0019109,0.0017389,0.0038873,0.0092545, 0.0028028,-0.0008422,0.0140179,0.0008282
Portugalortuguese,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Sardinia:Sardinian,0.1206524,0.1679686,0.0276806,-0.0515508,0.0603188,-0.0224786,-0.003478,0.004292,0.0427048,0.0798558,-0.0020784,0.0158856,-0.0270266,-0.0131842,-0.0132192,-0.004614,0.0120476,-0.0013176,0.0017596,-0.012931,-0.0050908,-0.0042044,-0.0097122,-0.021087,0.0008382
Spain:Spanish_Andalucia,0.1081318,0.1460759,0.0357 074,-0.003434,0.0452553,-0.0058567,-0.0019295,0.0026598,0.0247151,0.0311624,-0.0021538,0.0072724,-0.0132072,-0.0114083,0.0102433,-0.0024984,-0.0061762,-0.0011002,-0.0042604,-0.0021325,0.0029291,-0.0013016,-0.0019719,-0.0053334,0.0018844
Spain:Spanish_Aragon,0.1195142,0.14649,0.041389,-0.000323,0.0468548,-0.0001395,-0.0005287,0.002942,0.0249008,0.036903,-0.0021518,0.0103035,-0.0176535,-0.0128335,0.0127578,-0.0027845,-0.0047592,-0.0007918,-0.0022312,0.0010005,0.0034625,9.28e-05,-0.0011708,-0.0010545,-0.0002395
Spain:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667, 0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Sweden:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329,0.055 7909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682,0.0046 947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0. 0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Italy:Italian_Apulia,0.1107119,0.1482673,-0.0037713,-0.0401381,0.0158388,-0.0151159,-0.0009557,-0.0016153,0.0027951,0.0206898,-0.0002273,0.0038765,-0.0064717,0.0011929,-0.0081071,-0.0038982,0.0016691,0.0005997,0.0027485,-0.0051524,-0.0038098,0.0019619,0.0017584,0.0014379,-0.0005667
Italy:Italian_Tuscany,0.1186036,0.1487413,0.013601 4,-0.0204997,0.0261587,-0.0090546,-0.00047,-0.0013845,0.0074991,0.0238972,-0.0002273,0.0054552,-0.0118631,-0.0045965,-0.0023797,-0.0002917,0.0040332,0.0004815,0.0038463,-0.0023929,-0.0012063,0.0024647,-0.0010436,0.00388,-0.0015885
Italy:Italian_Lombardy,0.1245224,0.147861,0.027982 2,-0.0137598,0.0327446,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.0103898,0.0299232,-0.0025008,0.008932,-0.0143606,-0.0047066,-0.0008686,-0.0078758,-0.0083448,0.0017738,0.0034442,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.0012366,-0.0006656,0.0030602,0.0008382
Italy:Sicilian_East,0.1031997,0.1465747,-0.007291,-0.0411287,0.0178493,-0.0153393,-0.0019583,7.7e-05,0.0075673,0.0213217,0.0073073,0.0038967,-0.0061447,0.0031193,-0.0059263,-0.006497,-0.0028683,-0.00114,0.0044833,-0.003877,-4.13e-05,0.0026793,-0.0018897,0.0022893,0.000399
Ghana:HGDP00944,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Ghana:NA18486,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
Ghana:NA18487,-0.627165,0.066009,0.021496,0.015181,0.002462,0.012 55,-0.050292,0.05169,-0.046836,0.031891,0.005359,-0.003447,0.027651,0.00234,0.015472,-0.011005,0.006258,-0.002027,0.005028,0.001751,-0.001622,-0.000124,-0.000986,0.001205,0.002155
Ghana:NA18488,-0.63058,0.067025,0.020742,0.01615,0.001846,0.01506 ,-0.047002,0.050998,-0.052563,0.035172,0.004384,0.004946,0.025124,0.001 376,0.013843,-0.007027,0.009909,0.004307,0.007668,-0.002126,-0.000374,0.000742,-0.001972,-0.002048,-0.002994
Ghana:NA18489,-0.627165,0.062963,0.021119,0.016796,0.001539,0.012 271,-0.048647,0.044537,-0.044177,0.035536,0.002598,-0.002248,0.019475,0.002202,0.01045,-0.011403,-0.00013,0.002027,0.008296,-0.006503,0.001996,0.003091,-0.00037,-0.005663,0.003832
Ghana:NA18498,-0.627165,0.063978,0.026398,0.017765,-0.001231,0.009761,-0.040187,0.049613,-0.043973,0.03991,0.004709,-0.002548,0.023934,0.004817,0.015201,-0.011933,0.00678,-0.000127,0.004274,-0.001876,0.00574,0.007914,-0.001356,0.000361,0.000599
Mali:Fulani,-0.389844,0.0939365,0.007731,-0.033269,0.013387,-0.0143625,-0.0412445,0.0317295,0.0236225,0.022871,0.0057645,-0.0074185,0.0227455,-0.009427,0.019408,-0.0189605,0.004629,-0.0175465,-0.0277165,0.006003,-0.010856,-0.02269,0.017008,0.000723,0.003712
Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples:Cameroon_Bakoko,-0.622612,0.061947,0.030924,0.017119,0.007078,0.010 877,-0.027261,0.032306,-0.040496,0.015855,-0.001786,0.005695,0.003271,-0.001927,0.004072,-0.001989,0.002999,-0.004941,0.004399,-0.000125,-0.002745,0.004946,0.002588,0.001687,-0.000838
Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples:Bantu_S.E.,-0.6293153,0.0637527,0.0201969,0.0178368,-0.0011624,0.0094514,0.0293503,-0.0129994,-0.0214296,0.0114607,0.0024178,-0.007793,-0.0111991,0.0022937,-0.009817,0.0063643,-0.0051864,0.0603178,-0.0249161,0.0034739,-0.0041872,-0.0009891,0.0023414,0.0010041,-0.0004392
Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples:Bantu_S.W.,-0.6222873,0.0658643,0.018425,0.0160116,0.0006156,0 .0075699,0.0014437,0.0089336,-0.0274354,0.0172863,0.0028534,-0.0046459,-0.0030369,0.001966,-0.0051573,0.004887,-0.0033901,0.0217903,-0.0106846,0.0037876,-0.0011764,0.0004591,0.0014964,0.0002411,-0.0005471
Eastern_Bantu_Peoples:Bantu_Kenya,-0.600986,0.062455,0.014708,0.0117895,0.002,0.00753 ,-0.012338,0.0265375,0.0029655,-0.0244195,-0.0023545,0.013338,-0.0320365,0.003303,-0.0352875,0.025921,-0.015255,-0.0043705,-0.0152725,0.006003,0.00287,-0.0051315,-0.0030195,0.0003615,0.0022155
Ethiopia_&_Eritrea:Ethiopian_Amhara,-0.225939,0.1062921,-0.0355122,-0.0828136,0.000718,-0.0389362,-0.0142315,-0.001064,0.1039208,-0.0634689,-0.0014526,-0.0132382,0.0176081,0.0010857,0.0225899,-0.0128095,0.0076927,0.0021256,0.0060754,0.0024317, 0.0041801,0.006691,-0.0030949,0.0037353,-0.0019691
Ethiopia_&_Eritrea:Ethiopian_Oromo,-0.2763223,0.0955195,-0.0299921,-0.071231,0.0021361,-0.0336965,-0.0082114,-0.0052804,0.1044275,-0.0711901,-0.0057122,-0.0102967,0.0103451,-0.0001701,0.0218111,-0.0142651,0.0154928,0.0049931,0.0072018,7.36e-05,0.0028773,0.0062264,-0.0036902,0.0029556,-0.0023387
Ethiopia_&_Eritrea:Eritrean,-0.204123,0.1079847,-0.0331867,-0.0883943,0.002975,-0.040811,-0.0153537,0.0001537,0.101512,-0.061778,-0.0018403,-0.0108403,0.019871,0.001468,0.0218963,-0.004685,0.007432,-8.47e-05,0.0077933,0.0025843,0.0047837,0.0074193,-0.001972,-0.0003613,-0.0031533
Ethiopia_&_Eritrea:Ethiopian_Tigray,-0.2150588,0.1071084,-0.0348282,-0.084854,0.0001992,-0.0398486,-0.0165753,-0.0006107,0.1012874,-0.0604916,-0.0023595,-0.0137788,0.0197631,0.0014491,0.0210207,-0.009445,0.0116041,0.0001937,0.0058561,0.0030456,0 .0038535,0.0065244,-0.0030376,0.0030548,-0.0045504
Benin/Togo:NA18499,-0.63058,0.057885,0.019987,0.011951,-0.001539,0.016176,-0.046297,0.044075,-0.048472,0.03098,0.003735,-0.001948,0.026016,0,0.016151,-0.011403,0.006128,-0.000253,0.002011,-0.004502,0.001248,0.002226,-0.000493,0.000723,-0.001557
Benin/Togo:NA18501,-0.631718,0.059916,0.020742,0.018088,-0.000615,0.016455,-0.037837,0.046383,-0.048063,0.029704,0.004872,0.002398,0.019921,0.003 028,0.013979,-0.020021,0.005737,0.001267,0.005782,-0.004252,0.006239,0.001855,-0.003821,0.001325,-0.000479
Benin/Togo:NA18504,-0.636271,0.061947,0.024136,0.017119,-0.001231,0.012271,-0.040187,0.047767,-0.049086,0.032802,0.007307,0.001499,0.019921,0.000 688,0.010043,-0.006364,0.012256,0.00266,0.00729,-0.004752,-0.002121,0.00136,-0.000863,0.001325,-0.00012
Benin/Togo:NA18505,-0.636271,0.062963,0.02489,0.016473,0.002154,0.0083 67,-0.043477,0.052152,-0.052972,0.033714,0.008119,0.003297,0.025124,-0.001927,0.011265,-0.007425,0.007823,-0.000507,0.003394,-0.001251,-0.000873,-0.001237,-0.003081,-0.000964,0.002395
Benin/Togo:NA18507,-0.628304,0.061947,0.02225,0.021964,0.002154,0.0131 08,-0.048647,0.045921,-0.050722,0.030616,0.004709,0.001649,0.02438,0.0049 54,0.014929,-0.001591,0.010691,0.003167,0.006913,0.001126,-0.002745,0.001978,0.000863,-0.000964,-0.007664
Nigeria:Igbo,-0.63058,0.0639785,0.0214955,0.018088,0.001385,0.01 10165,-0.0314915,0.0406135,-0.0452,0.0336225,0.004141,-0.0014235,0.0178395,0.002477,0.0050895,-0.0049725,0.0082795,0.0041805,0.0030795,0.001563,-6.25e-05,0.000371,-0.0025885,0.001145,-0.0024545
Northern_Africa:Algerian,-0.0680567,0.1327805,-0.0071652,-0.0677358,0.0212218,-0.0300737,-0.0221204,0.007442,0.0530313,0.0250954,0.0055076,-0.0061695,0.0208558,-0.0138598,0.0130235,-0.0101707,-0.0033574,-0.0164009,-0.0316446,0.0071597,-0.0096392,-0.0282908,0.0181892,-0.0002661,0.0012922
Northern_Africa:Berber_Algeria,-0.2936636,0.1051579,0.0019988,-0.0400681,0.0144488,-0.012341,-0.0366736,0.0210568,0.0269358,0.0215312,0.0057566,-0.0045259,0.021318,-0.0074316,0.0114277,-0.0088304,0.0031227,-0.011079,-0.023053,0.0049898,-0.0073621,-0.019636,0.0121769,-0.0003616,0.0026523
Northern_Africa:Berber_Tunisia_Chen,-0.0279499,0.1390711,-0.0080871,-0.0764792,0.0277316,-0.0352023,-0.0313867,0.0052818,0.0684246,0.0297957,0.0040057,-0.0043877,0.0196314,-0.0161248,0.0140923,-0.0169052,0.0001521,-0.0232896,-0.0467247,0.0078579,-0.0168314,-0.0404275,0.0281347,-0.0044517,0.0063666
Senegal:Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Somalia:Somali,-0.2966229,0.0934288,-0.0268511,-0.0697357,0.0009541,-0.0340804,-0.020493,0.0057689,0.1153923,-0.0796737,-0.0089475,-0.006669,0.0052179,-0.0016653,0.0247283,-0.0186156,0.0148637,-0.0019764,0.0099803,-0.0038392,0.0005991,0.004946,-0.0027362,-0.0012411,-0.00279
Southern_&_Eastern_Africa_Hunter-Gatherers:Khomani_San,-0.6220435,0.060424,0.02093,0.030039,-0.0004615,0.000837,0.236773,-0.1823,0.0185095,0.0067425,0.00203,-0.053952,-0.0211845,0.005505,0.018797,-0.0212805,0.029662,0.2623085,-0.0877375,0.001751,-0.0331915,-0.002844,0.0038205,-0.0050005,0.0016765
Indigenous_Americas-Andes:Quechua,0.0562288,-0.2695216,0.1110998,0.0874684,-0.0968796,-0.0169564,-0.2738812,-0.327263,-0.0112896,-0.0123918,-0.0040272,-0.0020084,-0.0024382,0.0219372,-0.0036644,0.0082206,0.0077446,-0.0018244,-2.52e-05,0.0004252,-0.0010732,0.0092244,0.0004682,0.0035186,-0.0021556
Indigenous_Americas-Andes:Aymara,0.056912,-0.312783,0.11917,0.093024,-0.114791,-0.014502,-0.301519,-0.359293,-0.009613,-0.016401,-0.000325,0.000899,-0.004608,0.023121,-0.013572,0.003447,0.00691,0.000253,-0.00176,0.002501,-0.001497,0.004081,0.003697,0.000361,-0.007544
Indigenous_Americas-Central:Mayan,0.056749,-0.2949387,0.1107659,0.0902554,-0.1048547,-0.0156974,-0.2758356,-0.3286347,-0.0140829,-0.0160369,-0.0017167,-0.0010061,0.001083,0.0199947,-0.008783,0.0037504,0.0079163,-0.0009773,-0.0013466,-0.0019474,-0.0026024,0.0056176,0.0010037,3.44e-05,0.0003594
Indigenous_Americas-Columbia_&_Venzuela:Yukpa,0.054635,-0.31583,0.111251,0.099484,-0.111098,-0.020638,-0.304574,-0.363677,-0.01084,-0.015672,-0.01023,-0.006894,0.003717,0.024359,-0.010858,0.006895,0.012256,0.004307,-0.000754,0.00075,0.000499,0.008656,0.001356,0.0003 61,-0.006706
Indigenous_Americas-Mexico:Zapotec,0.0539522,-0.2983626,0.1125328,0.0919258,-0.1038348,-0.0159524,-0.267254,-0.3242634,-0.0066264,-0.0142508,-0.0050014,-0.0057552,0.0030028,0.0200376,-0.0058362,0.0001592,0.0028166,-0.0007856,0.0026146,0.0012506,-0.0024708,0.0052428,9.86e-05,0.0003858,-0.0012694
Indigenous_Americas-Mexico:Mixtec,0.053269,-0.297144,0.113438,0.0916674,-0.100634,-0.0186854,-0.26904,-0.3211248,-0.0127624,-0.0145788,-0.005359,-0.005665,-0.0002082,0.016157,-0.0084688,0.0017236,0.005085,0.001799,0.001986,-0.0010006,-0.002945,0.0065288,-0.0007396,-0.0024822,-0.0013172
Indigenous_Americas-North:Amerindian_North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805
Indigenous_Arctic:Eskimo,0.0478057,-0.3686373,0.1181647,0.0405903,-0.1234077,-0.0440647,-0.1022297,-0.117995,0.0068177,-0.0107517,0.0294467,-0.004546,0.0071357,-0.0190837,-0.036328,-0.018651,-0.004216,0.017103,0.0368713,0.0197597,0.0283247,-0.049667,0.0068607,0.0286383,0.0361643
Indigenous_Arctic:Eskimo_Naukan,0.0462298,-0.3635596,0.1205625,0.0443752,-0.1200932,-0.0424128,-0.1052488,-0.1222136,0.0062615,-0.0132332,0.0296172,-0.0048648,0.0103032,-0.0178062,-0.0326252,-0.0135751,0.0001303,0.0136335,0.0359594,0.0189128, 0.0284978,-0.0500224,0.0099641,0.0265932,0.0419768
Indigenous_Eastern_South_America:Bolivian_LaPaz,0. 0569113,-0.3026277,0.1164047,0.09044,-0.1144827,-0.017663,-0.291883,-0.3513703,-0.008999,-0.0103267,-0.004655,-0.0029473,0.001883,0.021469,-0.011853,0.0057457,0.006041,-0.0054053,-0.0009217,0.0004583,-0.0022043,0.0051937,-0.0027527,-0.0008433,-0.002355
Burusho:Burusho,0.0712532,-0.0373207,-0.08604,0.0615476,-0.0659044,0.0387101,0.0034075,0.0031152,-0.010891,-0.0103419,-0.0130236,-0.0015286,0.0001784,-0.0104111,0.0090864,0.0097321,1.29e-05,-0.0011846,0.0001381,-0.0064969,-0.0038494,-0.00115,0.0037406,-0.0003495,0.0045144
Central_Asia-South:Hazara_Afghanistan,0.068294,-0.1496213,-0.0091767,0.010336,-0.0424693,0.0063213,0.0018017,0.0052307,-0.010158,-0.00328,-0.0189453,-0.0005493,0.000644,-0.005092,0.0054287,0.0077787,-0.0004783,0.0006333,0.003394,-0.0031267,-0.0054903,-0.0004533,-0.0064497,-8.03e-05,-0.0001197
China:Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
Daiai,0.0156507,-0.438709,-0.046763,-0.0609662,0.1201762,0.0622622,0.00047,-0.0073845,-0.0189698,-0.013121,0.0109208,0.0020232,-0.000446,-0.006193,0.0012895,0.0045742,0.0061282,-0.0009502,-0.0043368,-0.011662,0.0121972,0.0090268,0.0149438,0.002892,0. 007095
Japan:Japanese,0.0229543,-0.445479,0.0130733,-0.059109,0.0362118,0.0093428,0.003525,0.0005768,-0.0065105,0.0106607,-0.0740492,-0.0074685,0.011546,-0.0070647,-0.0110612,-0.004464,0.0003042,0.0035895,0.001676,-0.0092547,0.0270355,-0.01659,0.0049093,0.003374,-0.0419723
Korea_&_Northern_China:Korean,0.0227267,-0.4546526,0.0184538,-0.0641155,0.0393303,0.0116484,0.0054755,0.0033615,-0.0087399,0.0063599,-0.0745742,-0.008947,0.0103418,-0.0051105,-0.0085052,-0.002559,0.0012865,0.0022087,-0.0005237,-0.0077496,0.0169077,-0.0043938,0.0076947,0.0005381,-0.0173996
Korea_&_Northern_China:Han_NChina,0.0259514,-0.4360684,0.0085228,-0.0622744,0.0483782,0.0186856,0.003008,9.24e-05,-0.0123532,0.0014212,-0.072393,-0.0089922,0.0107628,-0.006138,-0.0076544,-0.0014056,0.0019036,-0.0012162,-0.004676,-0.0091292,0.0100574,0.0093728,0.0101556,0.001229,0 .0082624
Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North:Mongolian,0.0516758,-0.3278128,0.0638842,-0.0265506,-0.045916,-0.0297298,0.014242,0.0177686,-0.0009406,0.008966,-0.0321206,-0.0031172,-0.000327,-0.0007432,0.0032574,0.0006894,-0.0033898,0.0001014,0.0042236,0.0090292,-0.021537,-0.0095706,-0.0186106,0.0002652,0.0007422
Northern_&_Western_India:Maratha,0.0357731,-0.0934289,-0.1696504,0.1200186,-0.0721893,0.0624714,-0.0010407,0.0153949,0.0549583,0.0367076,-0.0031087,8.56e-05,-0.002782,0.0057606,-0.0084146,-0.0051709,0.0093506,-0.0017373,-0.0028731,0.0075034,0.0041,0.002067,-0.0008274,0.002496,-0.0050979
Northern_&_Western_Indiaunjabi_Jatt,0.0756925,0.008378,-0.0976742,0.081719,-0.067782,0.0503398,0.00188,0.006288,-0.0024542,-0.0096128,-0.0051962,-0.0019108,-0.002007,-0.0062275,0.0103828,0.0119995,-0.004009,0.0012988,0.004054,-0.013788,-0.0029322,-0.0095212,0.0004932,-0.0020785,0.0020058
Northern_&_Western_India:Khatri,0.0733859,0.0031536,-0.1057725,0.073202,-0.0728718,0.046472,0.0036858,0.0048217,-0.0063833,-0.0075101,-0.0059914,0.0004654,-3.91e-05,-0.008069,0.0091433,0.011263,-0.0016196,0.0008535,0.0001323,-0.0117425,-0.0015697,-0.0070417,0.0021861,-0.0013636,0.0009957
Northern_Asia:Tatar_Siberian,0.0829112,-0.1372568,0.065361,0.026248,-0.0439273,-0.0095263,0.0076687,0.0092424,-0.0067815,-0.0176961,0.0025555,-0.0037782,0.010993,-0.0203248,-0.0068574,-0.001619,-0.0020929,-0.0003467,-0.0007078,0.0006056,-0.0075327,0.0036444,-0.0031201,-5.07e-05,-0.0003657
Northern_Asia:Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye,0.0812698 ,-0.1598442,0.0899056,0.0479978,-0.061673,-0.0134984,0.0118444,0.0160608,-0.0044178,-0.0261326,0.0268268,-0.0055152,0.0152824,-0.0461588,-0.0121878,-0.0093608,-0.0053458,0.0002532,-0.0021368,-0.0052526,-0.0045668,0.0132556,0.0073702,-0.0054946,-0.005221
Philippines:Aeta,-0.016504,-0.3330935,-0.0923945,0.033269,0.104173,-0.006554,0.00235,-0.0139605,0.004704,0.001458,0.0424645,0.0019485,-0.00721,0.001858,0.004682,6.65e-05,0.0086705,0.007158,0.00088,0.003189,0.003369,-0.0179295,-0.006039,-0.0074705,-0.0543665
Southeast_Asia:Lebbo,0.0087263,-0.417383,-0.0747957,-0.037468,0.1541827,0.0494567,-0.0080683,-0.015461,-0.0182023,-0.019803,0.0800577,0.0128883,-0.0139247,0.004037,0.0094097,0.004066,-0.008692,0.001647,0.00993,0.0006253,-0.0064887,-0.015539,-0.0124893,-0.0057033,-0.0217147
Southeast_Asia:Indonesian_Bali,0.009645,-0.3935977,-0.0832643,-0.030141,0.1407065,0.0584791,-0.0048113,-0.0109793,-0.0098709,-0.0190676,0.0816472,0.007509,-0.0081137,0.0030133,0.0061859,0.0020168,-0.0012763,-0.0001735,0.0023221,0.0071218,-0.0127012,0.0001432,-0.0103074,0.0005073,0.0114454
Southeast_Asia:Indonesian_Java,0.0115991,-0.4036971,-0.079321,-0.0344533,0.1418287,0.066044,-0.0046665,-0.0130875,-0.010947,-0.0186576,0.0840476,0.0077645,-0.0095921,0.0070908,0.005765,0.0024118,-0.0011797,-0.0018219,0.0002574,0.0117377,-0.014011,0.0023494,-0.0133929,0.0014288,0.0208935
Southeast_Asia:Malay,0.0125204,-0.385901,-0.0721056,-0.0279072,0.122238,0.0542164,-0.002961,-0.0072458,-0.011126,-0.0156724,0.0582328,0.0066242,-0.0072548,0.0023122,0.0072202,0.001273,-0.0052416,-0.0001522,0.00269,0.0022262,-0.009658,-0.0049956,-0.0091698,-0.0026508,0.0007422
Southern_&_Eastern_India:Brahui,0.0686534,0.0485317,-0.1032517,0.03179,-0.0731635,0.0296944,0.0056153,0.0022348,-0.0212598,-0.0204296,-0.0033846,-0.003644,0.0051953,-0.0103651,0.0156436,0.0298397,-0.0099298,0.0045074,0.0057027,-0.0259729,-0.0004531,-0.015027,-0.0008237,-0.0170537,0.0124413
Southern_&_Eastern_India:Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu,0.054066,-0.0482375,-0.139912,0.0983535,-0.07586,0.059125,0.001175,0.009807,0.0245425,0.018 1325,-0.0077135,-0.000824,-0.0039395,0.000413,0.006379,0.008817,0.0100395,-0.0019005,-0.001257,-0.001626,0.002558,-0.002535,0.000123,0.0021085,-0.0007785
Vietnam:Kinh_Vietnam,0.017785,-0.4347735,-0.0384192,-0.057817,0.1141366,0.056371,-0.0013806,-0.0092881,-0.0165409,-0.0097496,0.0022124,-0.0012176,0.0021555,-0.0063478,-0.0015436,-0.0001989,0.000212,0.0008235,-0.0041323,-0.0082854,0.0089529,0.0064918,0.0120935,9.02e-05,0.003353
Iran/Persia:Iranian_Mazandarani,0.0899202,0.1019592,-0.078969,-0.0211888,-0.0587494,0.0059124,0.0076142,-0.0050536,-0.0413752,-0.0212669,-0.001364,-0.0018884,-7.42e-05,0.0011561,0.0055918,0.0107134,-0.0063759,0.0032811,0.0041982,-0.0140192,-0.0009108,-0.0076911,-0.001553,-0.0053742,0.0050414
Iran/Persia:Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.0916275,0.1077846,-0.0632191,-0.0225219,-0.045365,0.0040439,0.0018586,-0.005318,-0.028373,-0.0168403,-0.0002509,0.000361,0.0043652,-0.0049418,0.0071253,0.0135542,-0.0035262,0.002885,0.0017313,-0.0087712,-0.0032216,-0.0037657,0.0006777,-0.003489,0.0053669
Iran/Persia:Iranian_Fars,0.0885141,0.0956389,-0.0638664,-0.024092,-0.0460899,0.0007546,0.0044097,-0.0052124,-0.0285852,-0.0148255,0.0007832,-0.0010579,0.0047396,-0.00255,0.0045506,0.0118005,-0.0054146,0.0015202,0.0019668,-0.008938,-0.0004036,-0.0033604,0.0012905,-0.0044371,0.0040645
Middle_East:Lebanese_Christian,0.0881496,0.1457849 ,-0.0488581,-0.0788479,-0.0128912,-0.03074,-0.0004961,-0.0042818,0.0051812,0.0102254,0.0066579,-0.0045293,0.0103899,0,-0.0103147,0.0084709,-0.0021007,0.0017877,0.0025419,-0.0001251,0.0007627,-0.0003022,-0.0014104,0.0023564,-0.0012108
Middle_East:Egyptian,-0.01548,0.1341176,-0.042778,-0.0872208,-0.0044008,-0.0333553,-0.0137874,0.0005691,0.037605,0.0011968,0.0069772,-0.0087772,0.0229334,0.0018258,-0.0005202,-6.19e-05,-0.003303,-0.0026182,-0.0034861,0.0032432,-0.0005781,-0.0022875,0.0008381,0.0008636,-0.0004072
Middle_East:Jordanian,0.048944,0.1312064,-0.0474416,-0.0744192,-0.0126176,-0.0272756,-0.004935,-0.0032306,0.0148894,0.0008384,0.0064632,-0.0087224,0.0159958,-0.0009358,-0.0011126,0.0098116,0.0001042,0.0008868,-0.002011,0.004227,0.001622,0.0028936,-0.0011338,0.0025062,-0.0024428
Middle_East:Assyrian,0.0978879,0.1320187,-0.0621905,-0.0623096,-0.0319779,-0.017342,0.005811,-0.0057269,-0.0245056,-0.0037937,0.0042368,-0.0014715,0.0047166,-0.0003002,-0.0027515,0.0080879,-0.0006045,0.0011402,0.001177,-0.0050024,-0.0027792,0.0023155,-0.000112,-0.0025524,0.0028523
Middle_East:Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.0492282,0.1414123,-0.0630735,-0.1155542,-0.0106942,-0.0473418,-0.0094002,-0.0071535,0.0581358,-0.0025965,0.0128692,-0.0314348,0.0573088,0.003888,0.0038,0.0195902,-0.0204703,0.0039908,0.0031738,0.0221358,0.0107002, 0.0147148,-0.0130642,0.0085552,-0.008562
Middle_East:Saudi,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
Middle_Eastalestinian_Beit_Sahour,0.0876435,0.1467 44,-0.0541165,-0.084949,-0.0156955,-0.023148,-0.005405,-0.0050765,0.01176,0.0102965,0.00341,-0.00577,0.010927,-0.0052295,-0.004886,0.0144525,0.009844,0.0019635,-0.0001255,-0.0011255,-0.0016845,0.003895,0.0035125,0.005362,0.0033525
Middle_East:Syrian,0.0647593,0.1259791,-0.0488273,-0.060962,-0.0190156,-0.0195664,-0.0032034,-0.0024897,-0.0016685,-0.0018415,0.0023845,-0.0054188,0.0109304,0.0005794,-0.0027502,0.0051012,-0.0038155,-0.0006535,0.0020773,0.0003554,0.0015368,0.0001432,-0.0023935,-0.0007419,6.2e-06
Turkey_&_the_Caucasus:Armenian,0.1028676,0.1379851,-0.0581239,-0.0608451,-0.0286976,-0.0158969,0.0046413,-0.0057114,-0.0304485,-0.0043964,0.0012991,-0.0002249,-0.003029,0.0024773,-0.0046145,-0.0014582,0.0004075,0.0008232,0.0025769,-0.0027984,0.0001561,0.0024885,-0.0022492,-0.0021838,-1.51e-05
Turkey_&_the_Caucasus:Turkish_Trabzon,0.1092702,0.1391276,-0.0540038,-0.0608532,-0.0242508,-0.0165662,0.004982,-0.0074306,-0.0362826,0.0004376,0.0032154,0.0066242,-0.0086816,0.005395,-0.010315,-0.0089364,0.0083706,0.0005068,0.0010054,0.001901,0 .0063136,-0.0006184,0.0016514,-0.004121,-0.0007184
Turkey_&_the_Caucasus:Turkish_North,0.1008472,0.0560572,-0.0221744,-0.0341734,-0.027205,-0.011825,0.007473,-0.0003694,-0.022743,-0.0023692,-0.0030204,0.0035968,-0.0066006,0.004184,-0.0076818,-0.0048526,0.0003132,0.0012414,0.0013324,-0.004027,-0.0065134,0.0032148,-0.0026866,0.0006024,-0.0022994
Turkey_&_the_Caucasus:Turkish_Central,0.097275,0.0841327,-0.0305758,-0.0405241,-0.0228443,-0.0133439,0.0035069,-0.0019525,-0.021066,-0.0021728,-0.0002998,0.0027898,-0.0036708,0.0009528,-0.0056584,-0.0015502,0.0006519,0.0011109,0.0010635,-0.0017988,-0.0013438,0.0018834,-0.0018203,-0.0004636,0.0004421
Melanesiaapuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Polynesia:Maori,0.046667,-0.11577,-0.010559,0.031654,0.090478,-0.01506,-0.001645,-0.001846,-0.016157,-0.013668,0.009419,0.003597,-0.002825,-0.007569,0.016422,0.005171,-0.006128,0.006461,0.004148,-0.003877,0.007362,-0.005688,-0.004067,-0.00253,-0.022513
Samoan:Hawaiian,-0.003415,-0.414336,-0.053928,-0.045543,0.140642,0.029562,-0.00517,-0.011076,-0.022498,-0.020957,0.040272,0.003597,-0.005798,0.001239,0.012758,0.013657,0.000261,0.011 022,0.005531,-0.007379,0.000125,-0.026585,-0.003944,-0.003615,-0.058677
Postear los resultados.
mitalit
02-28-2020, 07:59 PM
Sin escalar no¿
Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.5388% / 0.01538837
34.4 Spain
12.2 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North
9.4 Norway
8.4 Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples
7.6 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
7.2 Burusho
5.4 Daiai
4.4 Northern_Africa
4.2 Southern_&_Eastern_India
1.6 Somalia
1.4 Indigenous_Arctic
1.2 Eastern_Bantu_Peoples
1.0 Sardinia
0.8 Ethiopia_&_Eritrea
0.8 Melanesiaapuan
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 07:59 PM
Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.4012% / 0.02401230 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 Portugalortuguese
16.4 Greece_&_the_Balkans
15.2 Eastern_Europe_&_Russia
3.6 Northern_Africa
0.2 Eastern_Bantu_Peoples
0.2 Ethiopia_&_Eritrea
0.2 Southern_&_Eastern_Africa_Hunter-Gatherers
Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.1206% / 0.02120570
26.8 Norway
21.4 Sardinia
12.8 Middle_Eastalestinian_Beit_Sahour
10.8 Greece_&_the_Balkans
9.8 Northern_Africa
9.0 Baltics
8.4 France
0.6 Eastern_Bantu_Peoples
0.4 Southern_&_Eastern_Africa_Hunter-Gatherers
El x0.25 al parecer es mejor con esta calculadora. Joder ahora resulta que soy un rusky.
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 08:00 PM
Sin escalar no¿
Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.5388% / 0.01538837
34.4 Spain
12.2 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North
9.4 Norway
8.4 Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples
7.6 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
7.2 Burusho
5.4 Daiai
4.4 Northern_Africa
4.2 Southern_&_Eastern_India
1.6 Somalia
1.4 Indigenous_Arctic
1.2 Eastern_Bantu_Peoples
1.0 Sardinia
0.8 Ethiopia_&_Eritrea
0.8 Melanesiaapuan
Usa el scaled, que ese porcentaje de Mongolia esta suspicious.
mitalit
02-28-2020, 08:01 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2574% / 0.02257416 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Portugalortuguese
20.4 France
19.2 Spain
9.8 Germanic_Europe
3.0 Greece_&_the_Balkans
1.0 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.0645% / 0.02064481
44.8 Ireland_&_Scotland
26.2 Sardinia
10.8 Norway
8.0 Northern_Africa
7.6 Greece_&_the_Balkans
1.2 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North
1.2 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
0.2 Melanesiaapuan
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 08:05 PM
Joder tios, miren lo que he conseguido en anthrogenica, una de MyHeritage basada en el G25:
Iberian:Basque_Spanish,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.05828 62,0.0090081,0.0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Iberian:Spanish_Eivissa,0.1161872,0.1467051,0.0376 541,-0.0040251,0.0397233,-0.0034111,0.0002712,0.0031417,0.0206569,0.0299145,-0.0025234,0.0074242,-0.0122246,-0.0085537,0.0088218,0.0009688,-0.0036809,-0.0029237,-0.0023785,-0.0039826,0.0032538,0.0018168,-0.0017445,-0.0001853,-0.0014738
Iberian:Portuguese,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Iberian:Spanish_Andalucia,0.1081318,0.1460759,0.03 57074,-0.003434,0.0452553,-0.0058567,-0.0019295,0.0026598,0.0247151,0.0311624,-0.0021538,0.0072724,-0.0132072,-0.0114083,0.0102433,-0.0024984,-0.0061762,-0.0011002,-0.0042604,-0.0021325,0.0029291,-0.0013016,-0.0019719,-0.0053334,0.0018844
Iberian:Spanish_Aragon,0.1195142,0.14649,0.041389,-0.000323,0.0468548,-0.0001395,-0.0005287,0.002942,0.0249008,0.036903,-0.0021518,0.0103035,-0.0176535,-0.0128335,0.0127578,-0.0027845,-0.0047592,-0.0007918,-0.0022312,0.0010005,0.0034625,9.28e-05,-0.0011708,-0.0010545,-0.0002395
Sardinian:Sardinian,0.1206524,0.1679686,0.0276806,-0.0515508,0.0603188,-0.0224786,-0.003478,0.004292,0.0427048,0.0798558,-0.0020784,0.0158856,-0.0270266,-0.0131842,-0.0132192,-0.004614,0.0120476,-0.0013176,0.0017596,-0.012931,-0.0050908,-0.0042044,-0.0097122,-0.021087,0.0008382
Irish_Scottish_Welsh:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.06 10876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.004773 8,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745, 0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
Irish_Scottish_Welsh:Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312, 0.0622654,0.0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0 .0051756,0.0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246, 0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698
Irish_Scottish_Welsh:Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0 601319,0.0430236,0.0405922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.0 06392,0.0062789,0.0043372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0 .0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083
English:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044 013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052 637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
English:English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0.1397525,0.061 3546,0.0431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0.0034346,0.006 3902,0.0064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0 .0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
North_and_West_European:Belgian,0.1271867,0.137886 3,0.0508694,0.0285197,0.038879,0.0112177,0.0042389 ,0.0034529,0.0074159,0.0110489,-0.0050521,0.0047014,-0.0127298,-0.0096131,0.0131448,0.0035701,-0.004404,0.00221,0.0022114,-0.0012784,0.0035491,0.0017494,-0.0014059,0.0102914,0.0011088
North_and_West_European:Dutch,0.1267527,0.1313048, 0.0610935,0.0461486,0.040469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0 .0080802,0.003576,0.0003275,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909, 0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
North_and_West_European:French_Provence,0.1219247, 0.1438468,0.0368914,0.005358,0.0368574,0.0023296,0 .0022671,0.0036379,0.0100577,0.0204533,-0.0038687,0.0072112,-0.0121376,-0.0109614,0.0059557,0.0031744,0.0010967,0.0028095, 0.0017746,-0.0015155,0.0015414,0.0027349,0.0003552,0.0054435, 3.52e-05
North_and_West_European:French_Brittany,0.1314657, 0.1383406,0.0578504,0.0392849,0.0391688,0.0158131, 0.0031549,0.0042114,0.008186,0.0094899,-0.0051314,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.0131017,0.0183426,0.0043987,-0.0073016,0.0012795,-0.000462,0.0017727,0.0044671,0.0017868,-0.001254,0.0105465,0.0006586
North_and_West_European:German,0.1302626,0.1373792 ,0.0579811,0.0387068,0.0400035,0.0156461,0.0040665 ,0.0057865,0.003526,0.00188,-0.0044133,0.0023732,-0.0053706,-0.0025417,0.0085125,0.0032913,-0.0032728,0.0016631,0.0033669,0.0017191,0.00314,0. 002005,7.18e-05,0.0083052,0.0002774
North_and_West_European:Swiss_German,0.127624,0.14 07779,0.0460088,0.0227311,0.0406229,0.0073906,0.00 27906,0.0051344,0.0086409,0.0121641,-0.0015224,0.005264,-0.0149402,-0.008808,0.0083638,-0.0011269,-0.0025912,0.0012192,0.0053735,-0.0009222,0.0019341,0.0035086,-0.0025574,0.006974,-0.0025596
North_and_West_European:Austrian,0.1290886,0.13500 56,0.054394,0.032737,0.0347756,0.0125666,0.0072299 ,0.0062441,0.0028274,0.0027551,-0.0038781,0.0007847,-0.0012942,0.0027849,0.0005029,0.0036968,0.0002223, 0.00079,0.0031793,0.0008385,-0.0009909,-0.0026548,0.0016675,0.0029627,-0.0010284
Scandinavian:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329 ,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682, 0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0. 0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Scandinavian:Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.06793 57,0.0534334,0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.00629 64,0.0057267,0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Finnish:Finnish,0.1305931,0.0918715,0.0899057,0.07 66156,0.0317187,0.0232595,0.0087265,0.013184,0.003 1769,-0.023071,0.0036809,-0.0060345,0.0119227,0.0058077,0.0021081,-0.0012815,-0.008136,0.0006589,0.0012905,0.0027597,0.0070458,0 .0011706,0.0027937,0.0056955,0.0021076
Italian:Italian_Lombardy,0.1245224,0.147861,0.0279 822,-0.0137598,0.0327446,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.0103898,0.0299232,-0.0025008,0.008932,-0.0143606,-0.0047066,-0.0008686,-0.0078758,-0.0083448,0.0017738,0.0034442,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.0012366,-0.0006656,0.0030602,0.0008382
Italian:Italian_Tuscany,0.1186036,0.1487413,0.0136 014,-0.0204997,0.0261587,-0.0090546,-0.00047,-0.0013845,0.0074991,0.0238972,-0.0002273,0.0054552,-0.0118631,-0.0045965,-0.0023797,-0.0002917,0.0040332,0.0004815,0.0038463,-0.0023929,-0.0012063,0.0024647,-0.0010436,0.00388,-0.0015885
Italian:Italian_Liguria,0.113823,0.146236,0.027153 ,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.002231,0.00235,0.001154,0.009613,0.025331,-0.009743,0.002847,-0.013082,0.001101,-0.001086,-0.012463,-0.00665,-0.00038,0.003771,0.00075,-0.00025,0.000989,0.003944,0.000723,0.000599
Italian:Italian_Umbria,0.1171113,0.1474776,0.00779 41,-0.0279933,0.0200379,-0.0091724,-0.0008617,-0.0024103,0.0052267,0.025918,-0.0003788,0.0053953,-0.0101584,-0.0053214,-0.0024883,0.0005747,0.0069538,0.0005912,0.0010613,-0.0023344,-0.0034107,0.0007556,0.0003149,0.0030391,-0.0010911
Greek_and_South_Italian:Italian_Calabria,0.1028203 ,0.1462363,-0.011942,-0.0466197,0.0125147,-0.0117133,-0.0024283,-0.0031537,0.0044993,0.0215037,0.000433,0.0027977,-0.0055003,-0.000963,-0.009636,-0.0052593,0.0068237,0.0009713,0.0051537,-0.003043,-0.0026203,-0.0023907,-0.0001643,0.0037753,0.00012
Greek_and_South_Italian:Greek_Crete,0.1070972,0.14 63285,-0.0168335,-0.0466295,0.0057632,-0.0153645,0.0022005,-0.0013009,-0.0029936,0.0129388,0.0013876,0.0027794,-0.0009596,0.0043915,-0.0122765,-0.0038692,0.001529,0.0008983,0.0040565,-0.0055482,-0.0050935,0.0014165,-0.0007506,-0.0012051,-0.0019595
Greek_and_South_Italian:Italian_Apulia,0.1107119,0 .1482673,-0.0037713,-0.0401381,0.0158388,-0.0151159,-0.0009557,-0.0016153,0.0027951,0.0206898,-0.0002273,0.0038765,-0.0064717,0.0011929,-0.0081071,-0.0038982,0.0016691,0.0005997,0.0027485,-0.0051524,-0.0038098,0.0019619,0.0017584,0.0014379,-0.0005667
Greek_and_South_Italian:Greek_Peloponnese,0.118376 ,0.1438667,0.0037713,-0.0325153,0.0159003,-0.010412,0.001645,-0.000923,-0.000409,0.018102,0.000108,0.0039467,-0.0058967,0.0037157,-0.016377,0.0023863,0.0134297,0.0003377,0.009176,-0.0007083,-0.0092753,0.003998,0.0013967,-0.0001203,-0.0033927
Greek_and_South_Italian:Greek_Thessaly,0.119135,0. 1452207,0.013702,-0.020026,0.0188753,-0.0051133,0.0005483,0.000769,0,0.01877,0.0026523,0 .0040963,-0.0072843,0.0056883,-0.0090933,-0.0041987,0.0021297,-0.000549,0.0041483,-0.005336,-0.0069877,0.0012777,0.0035743,0.0014057,-0.003353
Baltic:Lithuanian_PA,0.1337421,0.1241485,0.0796195 ,0.074613,0.0421616,0.0291092,0.0087244,0.0134128,-0.0037324,-0.0263102,-0.0035118,-0.0091044,0.0186756,0.0266472,-0.0118755,0.0034972,0.0042865,0.0010292,0.0039282, 0.0012351,-0.0060519,-0.0032921,0.0093979,-0.006552,-0.0002845
Baltic:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.0894 71,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
Baltic:Estonian,0.1329454,0.1141455,0.087756,0.083 3017,0.0427771,0.0297575,0.0113745,0.0144457,0.000 4091,-0.028447,6.5e-05,-0.0123489,0.0194597,0.0213591,-0.0066639,0.0017104,0.0002216,-0.0024832,0.0013451,0.0022137,0.001385,-0.0018672,0.0042644,0.0007471,0.0030535
Balkan:Serbian,0.1265712,0.137706,0.0370332,0.0138 244,0.0298516,0.003012,0.003854,0.006,0.0011862,0. 0026242,-0.0010716,-0.0006894,0.0042816,0.0120556,-0.0128932,-0.005489,0.0062582,-0.0002786,0.004676,-0.0049274,-0.007836,-0.00183,0.0053492,0.00094,-0.0028502
Balkan:Albanian,0.1181863,0.1417511,0.0155562,-0.0158808,0.0251586,-0.0074138,0.0033683,0.0018077,0.0006648,0.0161279, 0.0011097,0.0015486,-0.0070986,0.0066059,-0.019295,-0.0041544,0.0081273,0.0014992,0.0082962,-0.0059402,-0.0055629,0.0007212,0.0024238,0.0021991,-0.0025248
Balkan:Bulgarian,0.12475,0.1348622,0.0256442,0.005 3618,0.02462,-0.0008368,0.005499,0.0030458,-0.0002862,0.0069978,-0.0033452,0.0008992,0.002111,0.0086426,-0.0143046,-0.0022274,0.0070928,0.0020016,0.0031424,-0.0037018,-0.0046168,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.0024824,-0.0010776
Balkan:Romanian,0.1245225,0.1340499,0.034167,0.008 7856,0.0288362,0.0030677,0.0036425,0.0059073,0.001 2475,0.0061596,-0.0034427,-0.0002098,-0.0005352,0.0080509,-0.0126626,-0.0005172,0.0059194,-0.0014823,0.0033686,-0.0030764,-0.0066882,-0.0025225,0.0037343,0.0012171,-0.0012694
East_European:Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685 ,0.0577382,0.0406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626 ,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
East_European:Ukrainian,0.1309273,0.1240867,0.0683 506,0.0575551,0.0376867,0.0212936,0.0087651,0.0113 072,-0.002891,-0.0210999,-0.0016327,-0.0076594,0.0153563,0.0216328,-0.0112354,-0.0010965,0.0046903,-0.0006985,0.0025989,0.0017002,-0.0044989,-0.003479,0.0067387,-0.0040578,0.0007217
East_European:Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.075 0219,0.0695957,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.013 3226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia,0.1019155,0. 1339716,-0.0073393,-0.0395799,0.0107712,-0.0144595,-0.0010123,-0.0010294,0.0057267,0.0146208,0.0024485,-0.0003688,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.0027944,0.0018154,-0.0003409,0.0014889,-0.0012602,-0.0038586,-0.0007705,0.0027399,0.0015665,-0.0002949
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania,0.0998539,0.1 327575,-0.0092224,-0.040375,0.0094843,-0.0141475,-0.0005555,-0.001175,0.0060613,0.0137009,0.0015499,-0.0018529,0.0025678,0.0006257,-0.0044417,0.0034595,0.0016001,0.0001612,0.0004455,-0.0031721,-0.0032555,-0.0033497,0.0029245,0.0024428,-0.001056
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland,0.1001169,0.1368 425,-0.0073382,-0.0429994,0.0097966,-0.0154087,-0.0008812,-0.0008942,0.0081981,0.0142751,0.0011639,-0.0005932,0.0028802,0.0001662,-0.0041451,-0.001674,-0.0037648,3.18e-05,-0.0008065,-0.0040645,-0.0026776,-0.0022721,0.0016895,0.002169,0.0015267
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia,0.1011888,0.1315 11,-0.0064488,-0.0382755,0.0103711,-0.014335,-0.0019505,-0.0001847,0.0065447,0.0140506,0.0011205,0.0002997, 0.0021408,0.0003303,-0.0050352,-0.0002651,-0.0012125,-0.0005701,-0.0021367,-0.0031266,-0.0035687,-0.0029553,0.0006286,0.0045788,-0.0012214
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine,0.0994244,0.135 1162,-0.005506,-0.0401166,0.0120483,-0.0142652,-0.0010928,0.0001154,0.007772,0.0129388,0.0008038,0 .0001125,0.0024156,0.0005229,-0.0028297,-0.0018297,-0.0043223,-1.9e-05,0.0012758,-0.0046772,-0.0031258,-0.0025904,0.0007702,0.0021028,0.0010059
Sephardic_Jewish-North_African:Libyan_Jew,0.0678384,0.1454238,-0.0288876,-0.0684114,0.004493,-0.0244308,-0.0058282,-0.0046612,0.0199206,0.0201552,0.005391,-0.001049,0.0079088,-0.001514,-0.0005156,0.0023602,-0.0041986,-0.0013936,-0.0061842,-0.0026264,-0.0015972,-0.0079384,0.0079372,-0.0024582,0.0023708
Sephardic_Jewish-North_African:Moroccan_Jew,0.0782535,0.1429358,-0.017442,-0.0616122,0.0108482,-0.0191038,-0.0105755,-0.0017308,0.0162595,0.0236908,0.0079165,-0.0028472,0.0062435,-0.0051952,0.0050215,0.0032815,-0.0016625,-0.0044022,-0.0127897,-0.00544,-0.0016532,-0.008532,0.0094902,-0.0015662,0.0010778
Sephardic_Jewish-North_African:Tunisian_Jew,0.0705704,0.1462363,-0.0282301,-0.0737363,0.0034731,-0.0259767,-0.0077214,0.0003953,0.0204524,0.0212436,0.0057996,-0.0033186,0.0071571,0.000413,-0.0005236,-0.0029927,-0.0033343,-0.0013937,-0.0067159,-0.0022689,-0.0038147,-0.0082849,0.0036096,0.00136,0.0019329
North_African:Moroccan_North,-0.0299735,0.1373221,-0.0030378,-0.0673993,0.0280564,-0.0319174,-0.0244542,0.0050512,0.0609822,0.0327317,0.0059091,-0.0065526,0.0185908,-0.0147102,0.0151403,-0.0105629,0.0012604,-0.0179828,-0.040747,0.0092961,-0.0121937,-0.0346297,0.0214382,-0.0055763,0.0043974
North_African:Berber_Tunisia_Chen,-0.0279499,0.1390711,-0.0080871,-0.0764792,0.0277316,-0.0352023,-0.0313867,0.0052818,0.0684246,0.0297957,0.0040057,-0.0043877,0.0196314,-0.0161248,0.0140923,-0.0169052,0.0001521,-0.0232896,-0.0467247,0.0078579,-0.0168314,-0.0404275,0.0281347,-0.0044517,0.0063666
North_African:Libyan,-0.0476858,0.1309498,-0.0219326,-0.080954,0.0089733,-0.0345677,-0.020953,0.0030243,0.0520675,0.0098215,0.0061365,-0.0123917,0.0292235,-0.0049978,0.0085218,-0.0005094,-0.003788,-0.0095751,-0.0201184,0.0112686,-0.0028108,-0.0132634,0.0093993,0.0007991,-0.0002963
North_African:Algerian,-0.0680567,0.1327805,-0.0071652,-0.0677358,0.0212218,-0.0300737,-0.0221204,0.007442,0.0530313,0.0250954,0.0055076,-0.0061695,0.0208558,-0.0138598,0.0130235,-0.0101707,-0.0033574,-0.0164009,-0.0316446,0.0071597,-0.0096392,-0.0282908,0.0181892,-0.0002661,0.0012922
Sierra_Leonean:Mende_Sierra_Leone,-0.6226124,0.064486,0.022863,0.0170382,0.0029622,0. 009273,-0.0229135,0.0268834,-0.0388084,0.0279276,0.0057446,-0.0050392,0.0177835,0.0005161,0.0102468,-0.0072759,0.0094202,0.0066352,0.001037,-0.0003909,0.0030572,0.0013138,-0.003374,-0.0002561,-0.0001798
West_African:Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
West_African:Cameroon_Bakoko,-0.622612,0.061947,0.030924,0.017119,0.007078,0.010 877,-0.027261,0.032306,-0.040496,0.015855,-0.001786,0.005695,0.003271,-0.001927,0.004072,-0.001989,0.002999,-0.004941,0.004399,-0.000125,-0.002745,0.004946,0.002588,0.001687,-0.000838
Nigerian:Igbo,-0.63058,0.0639785,0.0214955,0.018088,0.001385,0.01 10165,-0.0314915,0.0406135,-0.0452,0.0336225,0.004141,-0.0014235,0.0178395,0.002477,0.0050895,-0.0049725,0.0082795,0.0041805,0.0030795,0.001563,-6.25e-05,0.000371,-0.0025885,0.001145,-0.0024545
Nigerian:Esan_Nigeria,-0.6321452,0.064613,0.02324,0.0182899,-0.0031929,0.0146768,-0.0412151,0.0464115,-0.0510541,0.0350349,0.0082612,-0.0014613,0.0233582,0.0032685,0.012147,-0.0095133,0.0067475,0.003294,0.006065,-0.0035332,0.0003899,0.0012829,-0.000724,-0.0002561,-0.000928
Central_African:Sudanese,-0.5779179,0.0545678,0.0030419,-0.0049742,-0.0026261,-0.0019337,-0.0101839,0.0137534,0.0733831,-0.0899031,-0.0188479,0.0219105,-0.0369769,-0.0003396,0.0076185,-0.0156191,0.0180017,-0.0113682,0.0194245,-0.0184254,-0.0006737,0.0046822,-0.0033358,-0.0034782,0.0036403
Maasai:Masai,-0.4390726,0.0761646,-0.0113606,-0.0358126,-0.0048085,-0.0186506,-0.0065801,0.0041826,0.0979414,-0.089979,-0.0168479,0.005826,-0.0256252,-0.001187,0.0118755,-0.0181648,0.022915,-0.0056376,0.0184462,-0.0199158,-0.0011699,-0.0001235,-0.0053612,-0.0033435,0.0049845
Kenyan:Bantu_Kenya,-0.600986,0.062455,0.014708,0.0117895,0.002,0.00753 ,-0.012338,0.0265375,0.0029655,-0.0244195,-0.0023545,0.013338,-0.0320365,0.003303,-0.0352875,0.025921,-0.015255,-0.0043705,-0.0152725,0.006003,0.00287,-0.0051315,-0.0030195,0.0003615,0.0022155
Somali:Somali,-0.2966229,0.0934288,-0.0268511,-0.0697357,0.0009541,-0.0340804,-0.020493,0.0057689,0.1153923,-0.0796737,-0.0089475,-0.006669,0.0052179,-0.0016653,0.0247283,-0.0186156,0.0148637,-0.0019764,0.0099803,-0.0038392,0.0005991,0.004946,-0.0027362,-0.0012411,-0.00279
Ethiopian_Jewish:Ethiopian_Jew,-0.2325787,0.1047688,-0.0335008,-0.0824188,0.0011285,-0.0398813,-0.0131997,-0.0005383,0.108091,-0.0688548,-0.0024087,-0.0126887,0.0177897,-0.0003442,0.0225293,-0.0118668,0.0095613,0.0013513,0.0050698,0.0022718, 0.0065717,0.0110462,-0.0041493,0.0030927,-0.0013773
Yemenite_Jewish:Yemenite_Jew,0.051383,0.1447854,-0.0632486,-0.114066,-0.0118263,-0.0466941,-0.0134963,-0.0088677,0.0489689,-0.006274,0.0113209,-0.0266121,0.0539851,0.0032439,0.0035287,0.0171607,-0.0245497,0.003475,0.0064106,0.0249583,0.012888,0. 0159867,-0.0070954,0.0046479,-0.0068941
Middle_Eastern:Samaritan,0.0853674,0.1486734,-0.0573978,-0.0925072,-0.0096018,-0.0350286,-0.002209,-0.0081688,0.016321,0.008237,0.0091586,-0.0099212,0.0204854,0.0118632,-0.0055372,0.0021214,-0.011239,0.0010134,0.0021116,-0.003652,-0.0005242,0.003116,0.000567,-0.0029402,0.0046462
Middle_Eastern:Saudi,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
Middle_Eastern:Lebanese_Christian,0.0881496,0.1457 849,-0.0488581,-0.0788479,-0.0128912,-0.03074,-0.0004961,-0.0042818,0.0051812,0.0102254,0.0066579,-0.0045293,0.0103899,0,-0.0103147,0.0084709,-0.0021007,0.0017877,0.0025419,-0.0001251,0.0007627,-0.0003022,-0.0014104,0.0023564,-0.0012108
Middle_Eastern:BedouinB,0.041925,0.1439232,-0.0598156,-0.1169808,-0.0093179,-0.0480622,-0.0141008,-0.0087432,0.05154,-0.0052038,0.0158689,-0.0305729,0.0629496,0.004855,0.0043959,0.0288529,-0.0199706,0.00366,-0.0040153,0.029,0.0109668,0.0152299,-0.0039166,0.0071025,-0.0083092
Middle_Eastern:Egyptian,-0.01548,0.1341176,-0.042778,-0.0872208,-0.0044008,-0.0333553,-0.0137874,0.0005691,0.037605,0.0011968,0.0069772,-0.0087772,0.0229334,0.0018258,-0.0005202,-6.19e-05,-0.003303,-0.0026182,-0.0034861,0.0032432,-0.0005781,-0.0022875,0.0008381,0.0008636,-0.0004072
West_Asian:Turkish_Trabzon,0.1092702,0.1391276,-0.0540038,-0.0608532,-0.0242508,-0.0165662,0.004982,-0.0074306,-0.0362826,0.0004376,0.0032154,0.0066242,-0.0086816,0.005395,-0.010315,-0.0089364,0.0083706,0.0005068,0.0010054,0.001901,0 .0063136,-0.0006184,0.0016514,-0.004121,-0.0007184
West_Asian:Turkish_Adana,0.09656,0.0934283,-0.0336265,-0.0383293,-0.0280565,-0.0145487,0.004935,-0.002846,-0.0176913,-0.002612,-0.0009747,0.0020732,0.0008672,-0.0002065,-0.0027822,0.0003315,0.0028032,0.0006337,0.0024092,-0.0050442,-0.0020797,-0.0012778,-0.0017253,-0.0035347,0.0005388
West_Asian:Turkish_Southwest,0.0954045,0.0585314,-0.0177931,-0.0312429,-0.0223256,-0.0116374,0.0053836,0.0006084,-0.0149116,0.0018555,-0.0011515,0.0007358,-0.002973,-0.0010509,-0.0048735,0.007859,0.0102175,0.0007485,0.0005829,-0.0003978,-0.0040155,-0.0021471,-0.003395,0.0007012,-0.0018289
West_Asian:Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.0916275,0.1077846 ,-0.0632191,-0.0225219,-0.045365,0.0040439,0.0018586,-0.005318,-0.028373,-0.0168403,-0.0002509,0.000361,0.0043652,-0.0049418,0.0071253,0.0135542,-0.0035262,0.002885,0.0017313,-0.0087712,-0.0032216,-0.0037657,0.0006777,-0.003489,0.0053669
West_Asian:Georgian_Imer,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
West_Asian:Iranian_Mazandarani,0.0899202,0.1019592 ,-0.078969,-0.0211888,-0.0587494,0.0059124,0.0076142,-0.0050536,-0.0413752,-0.0212669,-0.001364,-0.0018884,-7.42e-05,0.0011561,0.0055918,0.0107134,-0.0063759,0.0032811,0.0041982,-0.0140192,-0.0009108,-0.0076911,-0.001553,-0.0053742,0.0050414
West_Asian:Assyrian,0.0978879,0.1320187,-0.0621905,-0.0623096,-0.0319779,-0.017342,0.005811,-0.0057269,-0.0245056,-0.0037937,0.0042368,-0.0014715,0.0047166,-0.0003002,-0.0027515,0.0080879,-0.0006045,0.0011402,0.001177,-0.0050024,-0.0027792,0.0023155,-0.000112,-0.0025524,0.0028523
West_Asian:Azeri,0.0921965,0.0891527,-0.0493829,-0.040613,-0.0361848,-0.0047412,0.0043166,-0.0038378,-0.0282782,-0.0097641,-0.0018205,-0.0002366,0.0007668,-0.0014849,0.0015502,0.0043266,-0.002594,0.0012203,0.0019714,-0.0048904,-0.0002365,-0.0010218,-0.0012131,-0.0022832,0.0008886
Mizrahi_Jewish-Iranian/Iraqi:Iranian_Jew,0.092829,0.1321318,-0.0645294,-0.0642411,-0.0321084,-0.0145023,0.0006006,-0.0045128,-0.012067,-0.0026324,0.0063512,-0.002681,0.0113312,-4.6e-05,-0.0018849,0.0097084,-0.0058819,0.0028296,0.005838,-0.0116306,-4.17e-05,-0.0009341,-0.0038618,-0.0004687,0.0005054
Mizrahi_Jewish-Iranian/Iraqi:Iraqi_Jew,0.0891613,0.1404817,-0.0664988,-0.0757435,-0.023081,-0.020452,-0.0008617,-0.0081533,-0.0110443,-0.0013973,0.0038703,-0.0045458,0.0114718,0.0068125,-0.0076457,0.0080882,-0.004933,-0.0005913,0.0031425,-0.0114012,0.000395,-0.0037302,-0.0033483,-0.0038358,0.001996
Central_Asian:Kazakh,0.0676109,-0.2193543,0.0449527,-0.0068153,-0.0360989,-0.0139445,0.0105284,0.0112148,-0.0065242,-0.0015306,-0.0223771,-0.0026377,0.0011002,-0.0012386,0.001425,0.0014985,0.000339,0.000418,0.0 016591,0.0059152,-0.0139006,-0.0059476,-0.0084054,0.0005302,0.0011376
Central_Asian:Turkmen_Uzbekistan,0.0811938,-0.053823,-0.0083593,-0.004845,-0.0412383,-0.0036255,0.0096353,0.0082688,-0.0133623,-0.0095067,-0.0060627,-0.0018233,0.0010902,-0.0070417,0.0041168,0.007646,-0.0036073,0.0019003,0.0005868,-0.0026055,-0.0072372,-0.0037095,-0.0040468,0.0001808,0.0027543
South_Asian:Uttar_Pradesh,0.0451497,-0.086997,-0.1551223,0.119511,-0.0682177,0.0673057,-0.000705,0.014461,0.0501083,0.0357183,-0.0057377,0.0006493,0.0010403,0.0057343,-0.0052027,-0.0148057,-0.0088227,0.0002957,0.0010057,0.0025013,0.0003327, 0.009068,0.0007807,0.005663,-0.0049497
South_Asian:Punjabi_Jatt,0.0756925,0.008378,-0.0976742,0.081719,-0.067782,0.0503398,0.00188,0.006288,-0.0024542,-0.0096128,-0.0051962,-0.0019108,-0.002007,-0.0062275,0.0103828,0.0119995,-0.004009,0.0012988,0.004054,-0.013788,-0.0029322,-0.0095212,0.0004932,-0.0020785,0.0020058
South_Asian:Bengali_Bangladesh,0.043578,-0.1108377,-0.1506329,0.1024836,-0.0583844,0.0614357,-0.003693,0.0096589,0.0426577,0.0289236,-0.0064956,-0.0013059,-0.0006159,0.0029099,-0.0047114,-0.0083151,0.0040046,0.001647,-0.0015803,0.003716,-0.0009091,0.002155,0.0026761,0.0046133,8.56e-05
South_Asian:Brahmin_Gujarat,0.0634564,-0.0204629,-0.1213762,0.0929756,-0.0744447,0.0542163,0.0016802,0.007465,0.0130895,0 .0037084,-0.0057241,0.0002696,-0.0004162,-0.0047206,0.0046552,0.0064438,1e-07,-0.0001392,-0.0002639,-0.0068844,-0.0003869,-0.0036601,0.0019966,0.0002469,-8.98e-05
South_Asian:Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu,0.054066,-0.0482375,-0.139912,0.0983535,-0.07586,0.059125,0.001175,0.009807,0.0245425,0.018 1325,-0.0077135,-0.000824,-0.0039395,0.000413,0.006379,0.008817,0.0100395,-0.0019005,-0.001257,-0.001626,0.002558,-0.002535,0.000123,0.0021085,-0.0007785
Chinese_and_Vietnamese:Han_NChina,0.0259514,-0.4360684,0.0085228,-0.0622744,0.0483782,0.0186856,0.003008,9.24e-05,-0.0123532,0.0014212,-0.072393,-0.0089922,0.0107628,-0.006138,-0.0076544,-0.0014056,0.0019036,-0.0012162,-0.004676,-0.0091292,0.0100574,0.0093728,0.0101556,0.001229,0 .0082624
Chinese_and_Vietnamese:Kinh_Vietnam,0.017785,-0.4347735,-0.0384192,-0.057817,0.1141366,0.056371,-0.0013806,-0.0092881,-0.0165409,-0.0097496,0.0022124,-0.0012176,0.0021555,-0.0063478,-0.0015436,-0.0001989,0.000212,0.0008235,-0.0041323,-0.0082854,0.0089529,0.0064918,0.0120935,9.02e-05,0.003353
Thai_and_Cambodian:Thai,0.0196916,-0.3742225,-0.0630922,-0.0281979,0.0935559,0.0548578,-0.003243,-0.0061151,-0.0048677,-0.0059409,0.0200873,0.0020083,-0.005322,0.0003579,0.0005975,-2.65e-05,-0.0005605,-0.0021283,-0.0036956,-0.0021636,0.0016596,0.0076046,0.003081,0.0019039,0 .0131724
Thai_and_Cambodian:Cambodian,0.0166937,-0.3994417,-0.0619733,-0.0343457,0.115919,0.0618207,0.000235,-0.0055383,-0.0056583,-0.0116023,0.0394063,0.0018487,-0.001784,-0.0027527,-0.001538,-0.003978,-0.0023033,-0.0025763,-0.0047347,0.0055863,-0.003785,0.0112113,-0.0006983,8.03e-05,0.021515
Mongolian:Mongolian,0.0516758,-0.3278128,0.0638842,-0.0265506,-0.045916,-0.0297298,0.014242,0.0177686,-0.0009406,0.008966,-0.0321206,-0.0031172,-0.000327,-0.0007432,0.0032574,0.0006894,-0.0033898,0.0001014,0.0042236,0.0090292,-0.021537,-0.0095706,-0.0186106,0.0002652,0.0007422
Japanese_and_Korean:Japanese,0.0229543,-0.445479,0.0130733,-0.059109,0.0362118,0.0093428,0.003525,0.0005768,-0.0065105,0.0106607,-0.0740492,-0.0074685,0.011546,-0.0070647,-0.0110612,-0.004464,0.0003042,0.0035895,0.001676,-0.0092547,0.0270355,-0.01659,0.0049093,0.003374,-0.0419723
Japanese_and_Korean:Korean,0.0227267,-0.4546526,0.0184538,-0.0641155,0.0393303,0.0116484,0.0054755,0.0033615,-0.0087399,0.0063599,-0.0745742,-0.008947,0.0103418,-0.0051105,-0.0085052,-0.002559,0.0012865,0.0022087,-0.0005237,-0.0077496,0.0169077,-0.0043938,0.0076947,0.0005381,-0.0173996
Filipino_Indonesian_and_Malay:Malay,0.0125204,-0.385901,-0.0721056,-0.0279072,0.122238,0.0542164,-0.002961,-0.0072458,-0.011126,-0.0156724,0.0582328,0.0066242,-0.0072548,0.0023122,0.0072202,0.001273,-0.0052416,-0.0001522,0.00269,0.0022262,-0.009658,-0.0049956,-0.0091698,-0.0026508,0.0007422
Filipino_Indonesian_and_Malay:Indonesian_Bali,0.00 9645,-0.3935977,-0.0832643,-0.030141,0.1407065,0.0584791,-0.0048113,-0.0109793,-0.0098709,-0.0190676,0.0816472,0.007509,-0.0081137,0.0030133,0.0061859,0.0020168,-0.0012763,-0.0001735,0.0023221,0.0071218,-0.0127012,0.0001432,-0.0103074,0.0005073,0.0114454
Filipino_Indonesian_and_Malay:Aeta,-0.016504,-0.3330935,-0.0923945,0.033269,0.104173,-0.006554,0.00235,-0.0139605,0.004704,0.001458,0.0424645,0.0019485,-0.00721,0.001858,0.004682,6.65e-05,0.0086705,0.007158,0.00088,0.003189,0.003369,-0.0179295,-0.006039,-0.0074705,-0.0543665
Filipino_Indonesian_and_Malay:Indonesian_Java,0.01 15991,-0.4036971,-0.079321,-0.0344533,0.1418287,0.066044,-0.0046665,-0.0130875,-0.010947,-0.0186576,0.0840476,0.0077645,-0.0095921,0.0070908,0.005765,0.0024118,-0.0011797,-0.0018219,0.0002574,0.0117377,-0.014011,0.0023494,-0.0133929,0.0014288,0.0208935
Papuan:Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Polynesian:Hawaiian,-0.003415,-0.414336,-0.053928,-0.045543,0.140642,0.029562,-0.00517,-0.011076,-0.022498,-0.020957,0.040272,0.003597,-0.005798,0.001239,0.012758,0.013657,0.000261,0.011 022,0.005531,-0.007379,0.000125,-0.026585,-0.003944,-0.003615,-0.058677
Polynesian:Maori,0.046667,-0.11577,-0.010559,0.031654,0.090478,-0.01506,-0.001645,-0.001846,-0.016157,-0.013668,0.009419,0.003597,-0.002825,-0.007569,0.016422,0.005171,-0.006128,0.006461,0.004148,-0.003877,0.007362,-0.005688,-0.004067,-0.00253,-0.022513
Nepali:Tharu,0.0224936,-0.2885071,-0.0790158,0.0367913,-0.0123098,0.0358839,0.0019695,0.008604,0.0318376,0 .0274917,-0.0440847,-0.0046815,0.0055571,0.0024772,-0.0128225,-0.010683,0.0040234,-0.001846,-0.0051597,0.007843,0.0033096,0.0178412,0.0054053,0 .000677,0.0189774
Nepali:Tibetan,0.0221955,-0.3950405,0.000377,-0.0308465,0.010925,0.006833,0.004465,0.006346,0.00 9306,0.014032,-0.0754295,-0.0077935,0.010629,-0.0031655,-0.013097,-0.002718,0.008475,-0.0012035,-0.0085475,0.009067,0.000936,0.0272035,0.0020335,0. 003856,0.0355055
Eskimo/Inuit:Eskimo,0.0478057,-0.3686373,0.1181647,0.0405903,-0.1234077,-0.0440647,-0.1022297,-0.117995,0.0068177,-0.0107517,0.0294467,-0.004546,0.0071357,-0.0190837,-0.036328,-0.018651,-0.004216,0.017103,0.0368713,0.0197597,0.0283247,-0.049667,0.0068607,0.0286383,0.0361643
Native_American:Amerindian_North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805
Mesoamerican_and_Andean:Zapotec,0.0539522,-0.2983626,0.1125328,0.0919258,-0.1038348,-0.0159524,-0.267254,-0.3242634,-0.0066264,-0.0142508,-0.0050014,-0.0057552,0.0030028,0.0200376,-0.0058362,0.0001592,0.0028166,-0.0007856,0.0026146,0.0012506,-0.0024708,0.0052428,9.86e-05,0.0003858,-0.0012694
Mesoamerican_and_Andean:Mixtec,0.053269,-0.297144,0.113438,0.0916674,-0.100634,-0.0186854,-0.26904,-0.3211248,-0.0127624,-0.0145788,-0.005359,-0.005665,-0.0002082,0.016157,-0.0084688,0.0017236,0.005085,0.001799,0.001986,-0.0010006,-0.002945,0.0065288,-0.0007396,-0.0024822,-0.0013172
Indigenous_Amazonian:Bolivian_Cochabamba,0.052359,-0.271146,0.111628,0.088825,-0.096633,-0.022311,-0.275667,-0.323986,-0.010635,-0.014761,-0.004547,0.003897,-0.002379,0.020231,-0.004886,0.002254,0.002347,-0.000127,-0.006913,-0.003502,0.004866,0.009274,-0.006039,-0.002289,0.00467
Indigenous_Amazonian:Bolivian_LaPaz,0.0569113,-0.3026277,0.1164047,0.09044,-0.1144827,-0.017663,-0.291883,-0.3513703,-0.008999,-0.0103267,-0.004655,-0.0029473,0.001883,0.021469,-0.011853,0.0057457,0.006041,-0.0054053,-0.0009217,0.0004583,-0.0022043,0.0051937,-0.0027527,-0.0008433,-0.002355
Indigenous_Amazonian:Bolivian_Pando,0.0534967,-0.2626833,0.1107477,0.0837647,-0.0965307,-0.013294,-0.2671287,-0.3237557,-0.011658,-0.007411,-0.0049797,-0.0005493,-0.000545,0.0232123,-0.007465,-0.0001327,-4.37e-05,0.0029563,4.2e-05,0.0016673,-0.001414,0.0042453,-0.0006983,0.001245,-0.001357
Esta es scaled, lo mismo chicos, postear resultados.
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 08:08 PM
Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.1534% / 0.02153430
23.0 Greek_and_South_Italian
19.0 North_and_West_European
17.2 Sardinian
16.4 Scandinavian
14.6 North_African
5.8 Baltic
1.8 West_Asian
1.4 Iberian
0.8 Ethiopian_Jewish
Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.3523% / 0.02352265 | ADC: 0.25x
45.8 Iberian
20.4 North_and_West_European
13.8 Greek_and_South_Italian
12.0 Balkan
8.0 North_African
Otra vez, la x0.25 tiene mas sentido, esto de las calibraciones esta siendo importante en varias calculadoras.
mitalit
02-28-2020, 08:12 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.0111% / 0.02011144
31.2 Scandinavian
30.0 Sardinian
24.4 Irish_Scottish_Welsh
7.8 North_African
5.4 West_Asian
0.6 Mongolian
0.4 Nepali
0.2 Papuan
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2301% / 0.02230072 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 Iberian
45.2 North_and_West_European
1.0 Mongolian
PT Tagus
02-28-2020, 08:17 PM
Calculadora de FilhoV
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.2302% / 0.01230160
41.6 Basque
17.8 Spain
14.8 Italy
8.0 Middle_East
5.4 Greece_&_the_Balkans
4.6 Norway
3.2 Northern_Africa
2.6 Benin/Togo
2.0 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.6059% / 0.01605898 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Spain
8.0 Italy
3.8 Middle_East
2.2 Ghana
xD
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 08:24 PM
Calculadora de FilhoV
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.2302% / 0.01230160
41.6 Basque
17.8 Spain
14.8 Italy
8.0 Middle_East
5.4 Greece_&_the_Balkans
4.6 Norway
3.2 Northern_Africa
2.6 Benin/Togo
2.0 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.6059% / 0.01605898 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Spain
8.0 Italy
3.8 Middle_East
2.2 Ghana
xD
Supongo que en la calculadora de FilhoV poca diferencia habra entre poblaciones ibericas, supongo... Igual esa de x0.25 esta bien para ti, siempre marcas un poco de italiano.
Defcon2
02-28-2020, 09:36 PM
FilhoV
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.3151% / 0.02315132 | ADC: 0.25x
73.4 Spain
12.2 Italy
7.0 Sardinia
4.2 Basque
1.6 Northern_&_Western_India
1.2 Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples
0.4 Philippines
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.1227% / 0.02122674
42.6 Basque
32.4 Italy
6.8 Spain
6.2 Sardinia
5.4 Northern_Africa
2.6 Northern_&_Western_India
1.2 Cameroon_Congo_&_Southern_Bantu_Peoples
1.0 England_Wales_&_Northwestern_Europe
1.0 Philippines
0.6 Benin/Togo
0.2 Mali
La otra:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.4497% / 0.02449715 | ADC: 0.25x
81.4 Iberian
9.8 Italian
4.6 Sardinian
2.2 South_Asian
1.0 Kenyan
0.6 West_African
0.2 Filipino_Indonesian_and_Malay
0.2 North_African
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.2752% / 0.02275175
28.4 English
26.4 Sardinian
21.6 Iberian
12.6 Italian
5.0 North_African
3.4 South_Asian
1.4 Kenyan
0.6 West_African
0.4 Filipino_Indonesian_and_Malay
0.2 Indigenous_Amazonian
mitalit
02-28-2020, 09:45 PM
Calculadora de FilhoV
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.2302% / 0.01230160
41.6 Basque
17.8 Spain
14.8 Italy
8.0 Middle_East
5.4 Greece_&_the_Balkans
4.6 Norway
3.2 Northern_Africa
2.6 Benin/Togo
2.0 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.6059% / 0.01605898 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Spain
8.0 Italy
3.8 Middle_East
2.2 Ghana
xD
Lo que tiene huevos es que a mi no me salga nada vasco
Defcon2
02-28-2020, 09:52 PM
Lo que tiene huevos es que a mi no me salga nada vasco
Tu francés puede que haya absorbido tu vasquidad, díselo a Macron.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2020, 09:57 PM
Calculadora do FilhoV:
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.6890% / 0.01688972 | ADC: 0.25x
79.2 Spain
15.4 Italy
3.0 Northern_Africa
1.6 Eastern_Europe_&_Russia
0.8 Southern_&_Eastern_India
PT Tagus
02-28-2020, 10:00 PM
Lo que tiene huevos es que a mi no me salga nada vasco
0% de Portugalortuguese para mim. :lol:
mitalit
02-28-2020, 10:01 PM
Tu francés puede que haya absorbido tu vasquidad, díselo a Macron.
Pues si, ya pondré alguna queja.
Ya sabia que el sistema francés estaba muy centralizado pero esto es intolerable. A mi no se me ha perdido nada en nueva aquitania
mitalit
02-28-2020, 10:02 PM
0% de Portugalortuguese para mim. :lol:
El mundo al revés jajaj
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2020, 10:08 PM
0% de Portugalortuguese para mim. :lol:
Castelhano, Português ou Basco é igual nestes resultados dependendo de como interpretas. A calculadora apenas tenta fornecer dados para modelagem de "mistura". Em outras palavras, para estimar proporções de ancestralidade, tanto antigas quanto modernas.
Se obtiveres 30%-40% Basco ou 60%-80% Espanhol\Português é virtualmente idêntico, até porque os Espanhóis e Portugueses partilham cerca de 30% a 50% de ancestralidade com os Bascos dependendo da região e individuo.
PT Tagus
02-28-2020, 10:15 PM
^^
Então o que explica o facto de haver a distinção Portugal e Espanha nos resultados do Spaniard 2.0?
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2574% / 0.02257416 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Portugalortuguese
20.4 France
19.2 Spain
9.8 Germanic_Europe
3.0 Greece_&_the_Balkans
1.0 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North
(...)
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2020, 10:23 PM
^^
Então o que explica o facto de haver a distinção Portugal e Espanha nos resultados do Spaniard 2.0?
As samples que o FilhoV usou (Castela e Leão, Andaluzia e Aragão). Castela e Leão e Andaluzia são idênticas às Portuguesas mas a de Aragão já representa o oriente da península e os Aragoneses são geneticamente mais semelhantes aos Bascos. Se ele escolher "Agreggate - No" no Vahaduo podemos saber quais as samples de Espanha com que ele teve mais afinidade.
Com a opção "Agreggate - No":
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.6890% / 0.01688972 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Spain:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
36.2 Spain:Spanish_Andalucia
15.4 Italy:Italian_Lombardy
3.0 Northern_Africa:Berber_Tunisia_Chen
1.6 Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Belarusian
0.8 Southern_&_Eastern_India:Brahui
PT Tagus
02-28-2020, 10:27 PM
Raramente usei a opção "agreggate - No"
cá vai
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.5729% / 0.01572877 | ADC: 0.25x
56.8 Spain:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
26.6 Spain:Spanish_Andalucia
9.0 Italy:Italian_Lombardy
4.0 Middle_East:Saudi
2.2 Ghana:HGDP00944
1.0 Italy:Sicilian_East
0.2 Italy:Italian_Tuscany
0.2 Ghana:NA18498
mitalit
02-28-2020, 10:29 PM
As samples que o FilhoV usou (Castela e Leão, Andaluzia e Aragão). Castela e Leão e Andaluzia são idênticas às Portuguesas mas a de Aragão já representa o oriente da península e os Aragoneses são geneticamente mais semelhantes aos Bascos. Se ele escolher "Agreggate - No" no Vahaduo podemos saber quais as samples de Espanha com que ele teve mais afinidade.
Com a opção "Agreggate - No":
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.6890% / 0.01688972 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Spain:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
36.2 Spain:Spanish_Andalucia
15.4 Italy:Italian_Lombardy
3.0 Northern_Africa:Berber_Tunisia_Chen
1.6 Eastern_Europe_&_Russia:Belarusian
0.8 Southern_&_Eastern_India:Brahui
arget: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2574% / 0.02257416 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Portugalortuguese
20.4 France:French_Paris
19.2 Spain:Spanish_Aragon
9.8 Germanic_Europe:Belgian
3.0 Greece_&_the_Balkans:Greek_Peloponnese
1.0 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North:Mongolian
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2020, 10:32 PM
arget: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2574% / 0.02257416 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Portugalortuguese
20.4 France:French_Paris
19.2 Spain:Spanish_Aragon
9.8 Germanic_Europe:Belgian
3.0 Greece_&_the_Balkans:Greek_Peloponnese
1.0 Mongolia_&_Central_Asia-North:Mongolian
Como seria de esperar a amostra Espanhola com a qual tens mais afinidade é a de Aragão, tendo em conta a tua herança Basca.
Aqui está os resultados para a média dos Aragoneses usando a mesma calculadora do FilhoV:
Target: Spain:Spanish_Aragon
Distance: 0.5369% / 0.00536889
33.8 Basque:Basque_Spanish
24.8 Spain:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
13.2 England_Wales_&_Northwestern_Europe:English_Cornwall
9.6 Italy:Italian_Lombardy
8.6 Sardinia:Sardinian
5.4 Portugalortuguese
2.4 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus:Turkish_Trabzon
1.6 Northern_Africa:Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.6 Northern_&_Western_India:Maratha
PT Tagus
02-28-2020, 10:34 PM
Mascarenhas:
Cá está, no resultado do Spaniard a sample de Aragão aparece como Spain, enquanto Castela e Leão e Andaluzia aparece como Portugal, todavia nos meus resultados as duas ultimas aparecem como Spain... parece incoerência:lol:
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2020, 10:36 PM
Mascarenhas:
Cá está no resultado do Spaniard, a sample de Aragão aparece como Spain, enquanto Castela e Leão e Andaluzia aparece como Portugal, todavia nos meus resultados as duas ultimas aparecem como Spain... :lol:
Aparece porque vocês não tinham escolhido a tal opção de não agregar as amostras. O FilhoV quando criou a calculadora usou três amostras de Espanha que como default aparecem apenas como "Spain".
Gaska
02-29-2020, 03:27 PM
Aparece porque vocês não tinham escolhido a tal opção de não agregar as amostras. O FilhoV quando criou a calculadora usou três amostras de Espanha que como default aparecem apenas como "Spain".
Amigos Portugueses teneis que hacer caso al alcalde de Porto y juntaros con España. La genética os lleva por ese camino
Rocinante
02-29-2020, 11:17 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95907&d=1583021796
Soy mas extremeño que defcon
Defcon2
03-01-2020, 03:54 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95907&d=1583021796
Soy mas extremeño que defcon
Dale al paté de cachuela.
PT Tagus
03-01-2020, 09:53 PM
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.1786% / 0.01178632
87.6 Catholic_Christianity
10.4 Sunni_Islam
2.0 Orthodox_Christianity
Legado de Al-Andaluz https://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/troll.gif
Mañana pasaré por la mezquita de Lisboa. :lol:
Rocinante
03-01-2020, 09:59 PM
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.1786% / 0.01178632
87.6 Catholic_Christianity
10.4 Sunni_Islam
2.0 Orthodox_Christianity
Legado de Al-Andaluz https://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/troll.gif
Mañana pasaré por la mezquita de Lisboa. :lol:
:lmao like me bro!
Defcon2
03-01-2020, 10:04 PM
He probado a varios ibéricos pero es difícil que saquen hindú, al menos entre los que tengo.
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 1.9726% / 0.01972557
93.6 Catholic_Christianity
3.4 Hinduism
1.2 Protestant_Christianity
1.2 Sunni_Islam
PT Tagus
03-01-2020, 10:17 PM
Sí, por cierto tengo que pedirle a Ph2ter que haga más mapas para mí. :lol:
Aquí están :D
https://i.imgur.com/lQP7gtH.png
https://i.imgur.com/eRTTnzx.png
https://i.imgur.com/EAWUQfv.png
https://i.imgur.com/hNVUJgV.png
https://i.imgur.com/LynywhH.png
https://i.imgur.com/95AeJQN.png
https://i.imgur.com/oFEiohS.png
Rocinante
03-01-2020, 10:43 PM
He probado a varios ibéricos pero es difícil que saquen hindú, al menos entre los que tengo.
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 1.9726% / 0.01972557
93.6 Catholic_Christianity
3.4 Hinduism
1.2 Protestant_Christianity
1.2 Sunni_Islam
https://cdni.rt.com/actualidad/public_images/2016.07/thumbnail/578a7be2c4618846218b45a3.jpg
Defcon2
03-01-2020, 10:47 PM
https://cdni.rt.com/actualidad/public_images/2016.07/thumbnail/578a7be2c4618846218b45a3.jpg
Deja de publicar fotos de mi trastatarabuelo por favor te lo pido.
PT Tagus
03-01-2020, 11:04 PM
:lmao like me bro!
Target: PT_scaled
Distance: 1.5696% / 0.01569598 | ADC: 0.25x
98.4 Catholic_Christianity
1.6 Judaism
Salgo de la mezquita y entro en la sinagoga. :lol:
Rocinante
03-02-2020, 06:24 AM
Target: PT_scaled
Distance: 1.5696% / 0.01569598 | ADC: 0.25x
98.4 Catholic_Christianity
1.6 Judaism
Salgo de la mezquita y entro en la sinagoga. :lol:
:jew::dizzy:
Defcon2
03-03-2020, 04:41 PM
La calcu de Voskos, Alejandro no es de este país totalmente ibérico y se nota. Tengo más parecido con Asturias.
https://i.postimg.cc/QxqJsSZ3/voskos.png
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-04-2020, 08:18 PM
Membros Ibéricos que tenham feito o teste com o 23andMe, postem as vossas variantes Neandertal:
https://i.imgur.com/V3JpkXU.png
Do meu pai:
https://i.imgur.com/LyuCoKV.png
Da minha mulher:
https://i.imgur.com/TNTgHoV.png
Rocinante
03-04-2020, 08:22 PM
La calcu de Voskos, Alejandro no es de este país totalmente ibérico y se nota. Tengo más parecido con Asturias.
https://i.postimg.cc/QxqJsSZ3/voskos.png
Coño no habia visto esto, que coño es un Sklavenci? Un dulce que venden por las calles de Libia?
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