Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Sterling Archer]

Where can I find the result?

Gedrosia 20.41 Pct
Siberian 3.09 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.1 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.15 Pct
North_European 6.35 Pct
South_Asian 0.8 Pct
East_African 0.87 Pct
Southwest_Asian 16.47 Pct
East_Asian 2.18 Pct
Caucasus 39.58 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Turkmen
4.73862849 Turkmen_Iraq
5.27290243 Turk_Southeast
5.69892095 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.76087667 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.89224066 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.15974025 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.10670810 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.35325098 Yazidi_Kurd
8.08543753 Kurd_Sorani
8.35226915 Turk_Central_East
8.35687142 Turk_East
8.40504610 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.24985405 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.27643250 Mandean
9.38625058 Iranian_Lur
9.50348883 Turk_South
9.52461548 Kurd_Feyli
9.59935935 Azeri_Jew
10.20092643 Assyrian_North
10.22019080 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.24296832 Assyrian_South
10.51749495 Turk_Central_West
10.61233716 Assyrian_West
10.71689787 Kurdish_Jew
11.25854786 Iraqi_Jew

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Gedrosia: 21.90
Siberian: 1.62
NW_African: 1.29
SE_Asian: 0.05
Atlantic_Med: 9.17
North_European: 10.59
South Asian: 4.42
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 12.24
East_Asian: 1.05
Caucasus: 37.67
SSA: 0.00


Taking into account where this guy is from, this is an unexpected result. Very little EA and elevated NE.
His Gedrosia is not elevated, so this is not a northern influence.

[Kyp]

Taking into account where this guy is from, this is an unexpected result. Very little EA and elevated NE.
His Gedrosia is not elevated, so this is not a northern influence.

I think Caspian coast didnt have a lot of turkic settlements. So it's not that surprising tbh.

For example in Iran there are no Turks along the coast.

[Sterling Archer]

I think Caspian coast didnt have a lot of turkic settlements. So it's not that surprising tbh.

For example in Iran there are no Turks along the coast.

They also don't have high euro along the cost in Iran. Mazandaranis barely score any.
Maybe this is just mix of different indigenous populations of the Republic with some Turkic?

Then again, might just be aone off thing :D I think this is the first one from Salyan I am seeing.

[Kyp]

They also don't have high euro along the cost in Iran. Mazandaranis barely score any.
Maybe this is just mix of different indigenous populations of the Republic with some Turkic?

Then again, might just be aone off thing :D I think this is the first one from Salyan I am seeing.

Yeah true. Looks like inbetween Talysh and (potentially) Tat with some Turk?

The sample does have a couple of Talysh matches.

[Sterling Archer]

Yeah true. Looks like inbetween Talysh and (potentially) Tat with some Turk?

The sample does have a couple of Talysh matches.

Perhaps that is it. Talysh (although gedrosia is low here) + Tat for NE + Turkic for EA.
Unfortunately some regions totally lack any samples.
With Sheki for example it quickly became clear what was going on (major Udi admixture) once the number of samples increased.

[chinshen]

Thank you for sharing your results. It seems you would fall somewhere between the old and the 3 new Assyrian population data avg.
May I ask what town(s) you hail from and which denomination?

Hakkari Assyrian.

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani from Shamkir with a record East Asian admixture of 12%.

https://i.imgur.com/UIHdCGW.png

Gedrosia 18.03
Siberian 3.1
NW_African 0.79
SE_Asian 0.88
Atlantic_Med 8.89
North_European 10.23
South_Asian 1.2
East_African -
SW_Asian 12.87
East_Asian 8
Caucasus 36.01
SSA -

Distance to: Shamkir
5.61612856 Turk_South
5.86492114 Turk_Southeast
7.20440143 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.21489432 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.26025482 Turk_Central_West
7.33298029 Turk_Central_East
7.43224730 Azerbaijani_Republic
7.51262271 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.20985993 Turk_Southwest
9.06342099 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.35735487 Turk_Northwest
10.82954293 Turkmen_Iraq
10.88627576 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.11465249 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.29038242 Yazidi_Kurd
12.32180587 Turk_East
12.72004717 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.02426581 Iraqi_Baghdad
13.06146623 Kurd_Sorani
13.60300702 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.97072654 Iranian_Fars
14.10263096 Iranian_Khorasan
14.78098441 Kurd_Feyli
14.82671575 Iranian_Lur
14.84736677 Turkmen_TM

[Sterling Archer]

This place seems to have been deserted.
In the hope of reviving this thread I'll start posting some new results.

This guys has an Azerbaijani mother and an Armenian father:

Gedrosia 19.57
Siberian 1.04
NW_African 0
SE_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 8.56
North_European 8.94
South_Asian 2.15
East_African 0.37
SW_Asian 11.97
East_Asian 1.74
Caucasus 45.49
SSA 0.17

Distance to: Aze_arm
2.95891872 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.35944936 Turk_East
6.06420646 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.48386459 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.90267340 Armenian_East
7.60576097 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.96973651 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.99863113 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.42666007 Turk_Central_East
8.45033727 Turk_Ahiska
8.53152390 Turk_Southeast
9.55290008 Armenian_West
9.60863154 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.80186717 Turkmen_Iraq
10.15688436 Azeri_Jew
10.22692036 Yazidi_Kurd
10.37060750 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.50099519 Assyrian_North
10.86797589 Kurd_Sorani
10.91044454 Assyrian_South
10.93284501 Assyrian_West
11.05947105 Turk_South
11.08988729 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.41049079 Kurd_Feyli
11.67144807 Turk_Central_West

Distance to: Aze_arm
1.71966691 82.40% Armenian_East + 17.60% Tajik_Lowland
1.84487579 50.20% Turk_Ahiska + 49.80% Turk_Southeast
1.91922489 85.20% Armenian_East + 14.80% Pamiri_Ishkashim
1.92444431 66.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 33.20% Hemshin
1.93454644 68.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 32.00% Laz
1.95625079 82.20% Armenian_East + 17.80% Tajik_Mountain
1.96868551 38.60% Georgian + 61.40% Turk_Southeast
2.02161529 57.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 42.80% Turk_Ahiska
2.05458183 58.80% Armenian_East + 41.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.06456330 59.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 41.00% Turk_Ahiska
2.06938746 34.80% Georgian_Imereti + 65.20% Turk_Southeast
2.09002877 51.60% Adyghe + 48.40% Mandean
2.11713952 85.00% Armenian_East + 15.00% Pamiri_Shughnan
2.14645710 64.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 36.00% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.15298746 2.60% Nepali_Gurung + 97.40% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.15608667 50.80% Mandean + 49.20% Ossetian
2.18383476 16.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea + 83.60% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.20418056 2.20% Nivh + 97.80% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.20545186 15.40% Turk_South + 84.60% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.20639969 2.40% Tibetan + 97.60% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.21399575 34.80% Georgian_Gurian + 65.20% Turk_Southeast
2.21575536 2.40% Nepali_Kirant_Rai + 97.60% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.21723809 2.20% Daur + 97.80% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.23118084 2.20% Hezhen + 97.80% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.23910354 2.60% Mongol_Khalkh + 97.40% Udi_Azerbaijan

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani from Gazakh and Aghdam. Very low Atlantic_Med for both regions.
Y-DNA: R-M417

https://i.imgur.com/qNVlqRV.png

Gedrosia 19.31 Pct
Siberian 2.06 Pct
Northwest_African 1 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.96 Pct
North_European 10.62 Pct
South_Asian 2.45 Pct
East_African 0.34 Pct
Southwest_Asian 10.65 Pct
East_Asian 4.35 Pct
Caucasus 41.33 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.15 Pct

Distance to: Gazakh_Aghdam
4.48239891 Azerbaijani_Republic
4.59105652 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.60518510 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.74901474 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.24986207 Turk_Southeast
7.87146746 Turk_Central_East
8.11075829 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.17976161 Turk_East
8.20794737 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.51536846 Turk_South
8.52427710 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.65321328 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.61413543 Turkmen_Iraq
10.14178978 Turk_Central_West
10.23354777 Yazidi_Kurd
10.66467533 Kurd_Sorani
11.34937443 Abazin
11.38202970 Adyghe
11.51515957 Kurd_Feyli
11.56972774 Kumyk
11.63418239 Ingush
11.68476786 Circassian
11.69558464 Karachay
11.80479987 Kabardin
11.92001678 Turk_West_BlackSea

Distance to: Gazakh_Aghdam
2.81973523 44.80% Circassian + 55.20% Turkmen_Iraq
2.85599517 43.00% Balkar + 57.00% Turkmen_Iraq
2.86093701 55.20% Turkmen_Iraq + 44.80% Karachay
2.97673532 45.40% Abazin + 54.60% Turkmen_Iraq
3.09309813 77.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 22.40% Karachay
3.12308781 79.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 21.00% Balkar
3.12458411 77.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 22.20% Circassian
3.16677448 46.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 53.80% Karachay
3.17591224 70.80% Azerbaijani_Iran + 29.20% Circassian
3.17979155 22.40% Abazin + 77.60% Azerbaijani_Republic
3.19505071 79.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 20.80% Ossetian
3.22583091 72.40% Azerbaijani_Iran + 27.60% Ossetian
3.23802387 71.00% Azerbaijani_Iran + 29.00% Karachay
3.26087859 81.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 18.20% Ossetian_South
3.28986302 21.80% Adyghe + 78.20% Azerbaijani_Republic
3.29092153 72.60% Azerbaijani_Iran + 27.40% Balkar
3.30681972 29.40% Adyghe + 70.60% Azerbaijani_Iran
3.34297598 75.40% Azerbaijani_Iran + 24.60% Ossetian_South
3.35549440 40.20% Arab_Iran + 59.80% Karachay
3.36050092 29.20% Abazin + 70.80% Azerbaijani_Iran
3.37189426 79.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 20.60% Balkar
3.41381140 78.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 21.60% Karachay
3.43396073 52.20% Balkar + 47.80% Iraqi_Baghdad
3.46549995 79.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 20.20% Kabardin
3.49517265 57.20% Turkmen_Iraq + 42.80% Ossetian

[Aren]

Hello everyone. Leto, Kyp, Aren - I appreciate the work you're doing.
And I've learned that the original K12b spreadsheet had a lot of population groups with atypical average results?
In particular when it comes to the Caucasus scores among Assyrians, Mandeans and Armenians.
For instance, the Assyrian Caucasus score shouldn't be anywhere near as high as 52.2% and the North Euro score anywhere near as low as 0.9% even if you divide the group into North, South and West?
It seems the non-Beduin peoples of the Iranian Peninsula, Mesopotamia, East Anatolia, South Caucasus and the Levant aren't as distinctly different as the original Dodecad K12b spreadsheet could have you believe.

Are you/they still adding results from here to the Vahaduo updated K12b spreadsheet?
If so, I think you should only add those with known identity, in order to avoid skewed results due to confirmation bias.
The Turkmen_Iraq group seem to be based entirely on the Turkish-sounding names on the Iraq DNA project?
I think a big chunk of the individuals in those tests have known mixed ancestry, even if they have a Turkish, Kurdish, Christian or tribal Arabic name.
We also have to remember that just because someone is scoring like a Kurd_Kurmanji or Azerbaijani_Dagestan doesn't mean he identifies as such.
The results of randomly discovered kit numbers and K12b results of unknown individuals shouldn't be added to any of the population groups in my opinion.


These are my results. Kurd, Kermanshah province, Sunni.
Gedrosia: 25.74%
Siberian: 0.61%
NWAfrican: 1.16%
SEAsian: 0.35%
Atlantic-Med: 7.78%
North European: 8.42%
S Asian: 3.10%
E African: 0.73%
SW Asian: 14.41%
E Asian: 0.39%
Caucasus: 37.30%
Sub Saharan: 0.00%

In Vahaduo format:
Kurd_Kermanshah,25.74,0.61,1.16,0.35,8.42,7.78,3.1 0,0.73,14.41,0.39,37.30,0.00

This was an interesting result I came across. Not sure how common it is in that region, but it's a Kurd from Dohuk.
Gedrosia: 24.67%
Siberian: 0.81%
NWAfrican: 0.13%
SEAsian: 0.00%
Atlantic-Med: 9.55%
North European: 4.65%
S Asian: 0.81%
E African: 0.70%
SW Asian: 17.97%
E Asian: 0.97%
Caucasus: 39.54%
Sub Saharan: 0.21%

Kurd_Dohuk,24.67,0.81,0.13,0.00,9.55,4.65,0.81,0.7 0,17.97,0.97,39.54,0.21
Yes the Caucasus scores were inflated and the Atlantic-Med and to a lesser degree the North European were surpressed. These scores were not "wrong" per se, as the guy who created the Dodecad calculators included several Assyrians in his intial run and those kits still score like that with over 50% Caucasus but with other gedmatch calculators especially with Eurogenes their scores are similar to other Assyrians. The difference is due to the "calculator effect" which Dodecad suffers from but not Eurogenes.
Same thing applies to the Harappaworld calculator.

Assyrian_North,18.39,0.1,1.16,0.16,10.77,2.3,0.67, 0.09,19.02,0.11,47.22,0
Assyrian_South,17.88,0.14,1.52,0.19,10.92,2.02,0.7 4,0.28,19.27,0.17,46.83,0.02
Assyrian_West,17.46,0.09,1.42,0.13,11.51,2.31,0.47 ,0.17,19.11,0.11,47.21,0.02


What regions or subgroups do these refer to and where are the results taken from?
West = Syriac Orthodox from Mardin/Qamishli area?
South = Iraqi Chaldeans?
North = Urmia / Hakkari Nestorians?

It seems that the remarkable results of Sardinians, Basques, Iranian Lurs, Saudis and Assyrians in the old spreadsheets that are still circulating is partly due to seemingly mixed individuals being filtered out of the group in favor of the seemingly least mixed ones.
I can see how or why that would be useful or interesting, but it could also mislead people into thinking that's how average results look from those groups. I didn't for one second believe that the average Saudi will score only 0.30% Sub-Saharan, but the Assyrian average seemed plausible since it's a much smaller and more endogamic group.

@Aren
I think I read a post where you said you aren't motivated to post Assyrian results because you find them boring. If that's the case, then I have to strongly disagree with that.
I'm very interested in finding out how common it is for Assyrians to score over 50% Caucasus and less than 1% North Euro.
Please share with us more results from different denominations/towns if you have any.

Assyrian_West: Assyrians west of the Tigris river, mostly from Mardin and western Sirnak, but includes also several individuals with ancestry from Diyarbakir, Aleppo and Seert. Mostly Syriac Orthodox, substantial Syriac Catholic and Chaldean Catholic, some Church of the East/Nestorian
Assyrian_North: Assyrians east of the Tigris originally from Hakkari, eastern Sirnak, West Azerbaijan and northernmost Iraq north of Zakho, Amadiya and Rawanduz, some probably also with historical roots in Salmas and Van. Mostly Church of the East/Nestorians, substantial Chaldean Catholic, some Protestants.
Assyrian_South: Assyrians east of the Tigris from modern day Iraq, south of Zakho, Amadiya and Rawanduz. Mostly Chaldean Catholic, substantial amount of Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic, some Protestants.

The difference between the old Assyrian average and how modern day Assyrians who upload to Gedmatch score is due to the calculator effect as I explained above, not due to mixed individuals. The same applies to the Saudi, Basque and most other averages who were part of the original run. The North Euro percentages as an example are inflated for most Northern and Eastern Europeans.

[Sterling Archer]

Half Azerbaijani, half Persian result. Azerbaijani side seems very Anatolian for some reason.

Gedrosia 24.72 Pct
Siberian 3.05 Pct
Northwest_African 0.09 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.01 Pct
North_European 7.93 Pct
South_Asian 1.79 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.75 Pct
East_Asian 3 Pct
Caucasus 37.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.09 Pct

Distance to: Aze_Pers
5.28315247 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.50478882 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.83648867 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.37211896 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.70033581 Yazidi_Kurd
7.64143965 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.91806163 Turk_Southeast
8.26606315 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.34480078 Kurd_Sorani
9.22199545 Turkmen_Iraq
9.39399276 Iranian_Lur
9.84837042 Iranian_Fars
9.89357873 Kurd_Feyli
9.95090951 Turk_Central_East
10.08096226 Iranian_Khorasan
10.30033495 Turk_South
10.38738658 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.08545894 Iranian_Kerman
11.09348007 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.11754919 Turk_East
11.34928632 Turk_Central_West
13.09048509 Turk_Southwest
13.30034586 Turk_West_BlackSea
13.32982370 Iranian_Mazandaran
13.91891878 Iraqi_Baghdad

Distance to: Aze_Pers
3.82240628 49.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 50.40% Turk_Southwest
3.89717921 9.40% Spanish_Basque + 90.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.04569011 53.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 46.60% Turk_Northwest
4.04816625 50.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 50.00% Turk_West_BlackSea
4.06372022 9.80% French_Southwest + 90.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.07275035 45.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 54.60% Turk_Central_West
4.15310387 10.80% Spanish_Asturias + 89.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.15634098 10.40% Spanish_La_Rioja + 89.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.20899539 10.80% Spanish_Aragon + 89.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.21150208 87.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 12.20% Balochi
4.21991516 10.60% Spanish_Cantabria + 89.40% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.24240307 11.00% Spanish_Andalusia + 89.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.30980071 11.20% Spanish_Valencia + 88.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.31563400 11.00% Spanish_Catalonia + 89.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.32520280 11.00% Spanish_Galicia + 89.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.32588705 58.00% Armenian_West + 42.00% Tajik_Mountain
4.34910700 11.20% Spanish_Castilla-Leon + 88.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.39872870 11.40% Spanish_Baleares + 88.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.45483212 85.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 15.00% Iranian_Bandari
4.47518911 29.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 70.60% Iranian_Lur
4.47698012 70.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 29.40% Iranian_Khorasan
4.48022148 11.40% Portuguese + 88.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.48726604 73.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 27.00% Iranian_Kerman
4.53048524 25.40% Turk_Northwest + 74.60% Yazidi_Kurd
4.53253362 28.60% Turk_Southwest + 71.40% Yazidi_Kurd

Target: Aze_Pers
Distance: 1.6540% / 1.65401916 | R4P
45.1 Iranian_Mazandaran
40.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.2 Spanish_Basque
5.1 Negidal

[Arzanene]

Armenian from Derik Province in Diyarbakir Turkey. Dodecad k12 gedmatch results

updated vahaduo results
109076

Gedrosia 16.29
Siberian 0.23
Northwest_African 0.62
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.66
North_European 3.64
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 18
East_Asian 1.25
Caucasus 47.1
Sub_Saharan 0.2

1 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 6.952974
2 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 7.048021
3 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 7.312299
4 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 7.474526
5 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 8.692334
6 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 9.061040
7 Armenian_Dodecad @ 10.033321
8 Turks_Behar @ 10.110106
9 Druze_HGDP @ 10.132220
10 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 10.599319
11 Turkish_Dodecad @ 10.797203
12 Lebanese_Behar @ 10.942459
13 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.464595
14 Syrians_Behar @ 14.525302
15 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 15.233806
16 Armenians_Behar @ 15.425196
17 Kurd_Dodecad @ 16.377344
18 Jordanians_Behar @ 17.009380
19 Iranian_Dodecad @ 17.532185
20 Palestinian_HGDP @ 19.807985

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iraq_Jews_Behar +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.762195


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian_Dodecad +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.079935


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.985641
2 Armenian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar @ 2.028992
3 Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Druze_HGDP + Kurd_Dodecad @ 2.077192
4 Assyrian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.079935
5 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Druze_HGDP + Kurd_Dodecad @ 2.102842
6 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.103858

[Arzanene]

Armenian from Dersim, Turkey Dodecad k12 gedmatch results.

updated Vahaduo results
109075

Gedrosia 15.81
Siberian 0.67
Northwest_African 0.9
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.83
North_European 2.86
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 17.53
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.41
Sub_Saharan -

1 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 4.620466
2 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 4.869308
3 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 5.163907
4 Armenian_Dodecad @ 6.826284
5 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 7.637541
6 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 8.230127
7 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 8.331093
8 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 8.770941
9 Druze_HGDP @ 9.490332
10 Turks_Behar @ 11.017267
11 Turkish_Dodecad @ 11.753623
12 Armenians_Behar @ 12.428290
13 Lebanese_Behar @ 12.894219
14 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.467872
15 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 16.684258
16 Syrians_Behar @ 16.733597
17 Kurd_Dodecad @ 18.031271
18 Jordanians_Behar @ 18.843891
19 Iranian_Dodecad @ 19.031963
20 Samaritians_Behar @ 19.595648

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Dodecad +50% Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 3.687993


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar +25% Cypriots_Behar +25% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.104997


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 0.915144
2 Armenian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 0.924305
3 Armenian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.015692
4 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.072118
5 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.104997
6 Assyrian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.164992

[Arzanene]

Armenian from The region of Palu in Elazig Turkey.

109077

Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.65 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.37 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.37 Pct
North_European 3.43 Pct
South_Asian 0.66 Pct
East_African 0.14 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.88 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.62 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

1 Armenian (Dodecad) 5.19
2 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.24
3 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.57
4 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 5.85
5 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.14
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.98
7 Turks (Behar) 9.27
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.75
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.83
10 Armenians (Behar) 9.83
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.68
12 Druze (HGDP) 11.22
13 Cypriots (Behar) 13.12
14 Lebanese (Behar) 13.7
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.32
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.63
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.34
18 Syrians (Behar) 17.49
19 Iranians (Behar) 19.18
20 Jordanians (Behar) 19.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 18.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.93
2 85% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 15% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.97
3 87.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.97
4 86.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
5 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.06
6 87.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.2% O_Italian (Dodecad)

[Arzanene]

Armenian whose family on all sides came from Ayntab/Gaziantep province in Turkey. Gedmatch Dodecad k12 results

109072

Gedrosia 18.09
Siberian 0.15
Northwest_African 1.32
Southeast_Asian 0.2
Atlantic_Med 12.65
North_European 2.11
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.89
East_Asian 0.22
Caucasus 49.38
Sub_Saharan -

1 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 5.188505
2 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 5.431397
3 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 6.907984
4 Armenian_Dodecad @ 7.420041
5 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 7.721779
6 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 7.943377
7 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 9.115218
8 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 10.018050
9 Turks_Behar @ 10.787576
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 11.733235
11 Druze_HGDP @ 11.926336
12 Armenians_Behar @ 12.853966
13 Lebanese_Behar @ 14.069311
14 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 14.849440
15 Cypriots_Behar @ 14.916783
16 Kurd_Dodecad @ 16.102022
17 Iranian_Dodecad @ 17.116337
18 Syrians_Behar @ 17.880110
19 Jordanians_Behar @ 19.914736
20 Iranians_Behar @ 19.933529

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Dodecad +50% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 4.347747


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar +25% Cypriots_Behar +25% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 2.229026


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad @ 2.025052
2 Armenian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad @ 2.046791
3 Armenian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar @ 2.130150
4 Armenian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar @ 2.211229

[Arzanene]

Armenian from Kharbert/Elazig province of Turkey. Gedmatch results dodecad k12

with Vahaduo updated results

109070

Gedrosia 14.9 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.68 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14 Pct
North_European 2.92 Pct
South_Asian 1.12 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.81 Pct
East_Asian 0.07 Pct
Caucasus 50.47 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Arzanene]

Armenian from the village of Cibin/Jibin in the region of Şanlıurfa or Edessa in Turkey. Dodecad k12 results gedmatch western armenian

Gedrosia 16.39 Pct
Siberian 1.13 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.61 Pct
North_European 5.94 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_African 0.68 Pct
Southwest_Asian 15.03 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 46.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

with updated vahaduo calculator

109069

[Arzanene]

Another Armenian from Dersim. from a prominent feudal lord family in the region.

109078

Gedrosia 18.01 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.9 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.72 Pct
North_European 3.35 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.81 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 49.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Arzanene]

You seem to love low Mongoloid Azerbaijanis. I mean that individual is only fucking 2 percent. :D

Zaqata, Sheki, Oguz, Gabala, qakhi and that general area was inhabited by Udi, Lekids, Tsakhurs, Ingiloy and other ethnic groups who belonged to either the Armenian church or the Chalcedonian Georgian Church. the area experienced a massive conversion to islam during the 1700s when the Sheki khanate was established and high taxation was issued. so they are mostly native converts.

and Apparently from the results posted here The core Shirvani Azeris seem to be Iranians somewhat admixed with Turkmen and some with Anatolian greek probably due to Shia Turkish qizilbash refugees who moved to safavid Iran from Anatolia. and north Caucasus admixture. the Iranian population of Shirvan assimilated into Turkic culture and language.

and Western Azeris beyond the kura River they seem to be Armenian +Turkmen + Iranian. probably a mixovarvaroi type of situation happened In Utik province around the 15th century when Timur settled the turkmen in the region who mixed with the Armenians.

while the northern provinces around dagestan seem to be a mix of Iranians and Dagestani groups.

[Arzanene]

Armenian from Syunik province, Khndzoresk village. gedmatch results.

Gedrosia 18.6 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.71 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.13 Pct
Atlantic_Med 10.97 Pct
North_European 5.15 Pct
South_Asian 1.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.3 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 48.47 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

with Vahaduo analysis

109085

[Arzanene]

Kurd whose tribe originated from Horasan in Erzurum and Migrated to eastern Malatya in Turkey. Gedmatch

Updated Vahaduo breakdown
109086

Gedrosia 22.67 Pct
Siberian 1.76 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.44 Pct
North_European 4.94 Pct
South_Asian 3.21 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.05 Pct
East_Asian 1.27 Pct
Caucasus 42.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct

[Arzanene]

http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/06/kurdish-autosomal-dna-based-on-dodecad.html

Vahaduo breakdown of the kurdish results from this blog site.

Zakho and Dohuk provinces, Northern Iraq 0.25% vs 1% Dist colon.

109090
109091

sulaymaniyah province

109092

Koysinjaq

109093

[harutsafaryan07]

Georgian from Tbilisi but closer to Armenian she have Georgian name and surname

Gedrosia 17.04 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.68 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.92 Pct
North_European 7.59 Pct
South_Asian 0.36 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.50 Pct
East_Asian 0.13 Pct
Caucasus 52.78 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: Georgian_Tbilisi
4.29433348 Armenian_East
4.66936827 Turk_Ahiska
5.28062496 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.60535458 Hemshin
6.42016355 Greek_Pontus
6.49351215 Laz
7.35251658 Armenian_West
8.07720868 Turk_East
8.32383325 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.87859786 Georgian_Adjara

[Kyp]

Half Azerbaijani, half Persian result. Azerbaijani side seems very Anatolian for some reason.

Gedrosia 24.72 Pct
Siberian 3.05 Pct
Northwest_African 0.09 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.01 Pct
North_European 7.93 Pct
South_Asian 1.79 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.75 Pct
East_Asian 3 Pct
Caucasus 37.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.09 Pct

Distance to: Aze_Pers
5.28315247 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.50478882 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.83648867 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.37211896 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.70033581 Yazidi_Kurd
7.64143965 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.91806163 Turk_Southeast
8.26606315 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.34480078 Kurd_Sorani
9.22199545 Turkmen_Iraq
9.39399276 Iranian_Lur
9.84837042 Iranian_Fars
9.89357873 Kurd_Feyli
9.95090951 Turk_Central_East
10.08096226 Iranian_Khorasan
10.30033495 Turk_South
10.38738658 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.08545894 Iranian_Kerman
11.09348007 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.11754919 Turk_East
11.34928632 Turk_Central_West
13.09048509 Turk_Southwest
13.30034586 Turk_West_BlackSea
13.32982370 Iranian_Mazandaran
13.91891878 Iraqi_Baghdad

Distance to: Aze_Pers
3.82240628 49.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 50.40% Turk_Southwest
3.89717921 9.40% Spanish_Basque + 90.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.04569011 53.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 46.60% Turk_Northwest
4.04816625 50.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 50.00% Turk_West_BlackSea
4.06372022 9.80% French_Southwest + 90.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.07275035 45.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 54.60% Turk_Central_West
4.15310387 10.80% Spanish_Asturias + 89.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.15634098 10.40% Spanish_La_Rioja + 89.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.20899539 10.80% Spanish_Aragon + 89.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.21150208 87.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 12.20% Balochi
4.21991516 10.60% Spanish_Cantabria + 89.40% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.24240307 11.00% Spanish_Andalusia + 89.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.30980071 11.20% Spanish_Valencia + 88.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.31563400 11.00% Spanish_Catalonia + 89.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.32520280 11.00% Spanish_Galicia + 89.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.32588705 58.00% Armenian_West + 42.00% Tajik_Mountain
4.34910700 11.20% Spanish_Castilla-Leon + 88.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.39872870 11.40% Spanish_Baleares + 88.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.45483212 85.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 15.00% Iranian_Bandari
4.47518911 29.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 70.60% Iranian_Lur
4.47698012 70.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 29.40% Iranian_Khorasan
4.48022148 11.40% Portuguese + 88.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.48726604 73.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 27.00% Iranian_Kerman
4.53048524 25.40% Turk_Northwest + 74.60% Yazidi_Kurd
4.53253362 28.60% Turk_Southwest + 71.40% Yazidi_Kurd

Target: Aze_Pers
Distance: 1.6540% / 1.65401916 | R4P
45.1 Iranian_Mazandaran
40.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.2 Spanish_Basque
5.1 Negidal

From where is the Azerbaijani side?

[Sterling Archer]

From where is the Azerbaijani side?
No idea.

[Aren]

An Azeri from the new Turkish study. Interestingly he shares the same YDNA (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M2728/) as an Assyrian from Iran, with a TMRCA of 1300 ybp according to yfull. That's quite recent. Their parent clade J-Y20051 seems Semitic with two sizeable Jewish and Arabic sisterclades. Did not expect Azeris and Assyrians to share a subclade with such a recent TMRCA.

His results are quite normal aswell.

Kit EG2020462

SRS8752397,23.28,2.15,0.47,0,8.21,9.81,2.85,0.53,1 1.6,2.84,38.21,0.05

Distance to: SRS8752397
2.47521716 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.64977358 Azerbaijani_Republic
4.18198517 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.76781921 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.76033853 Yazidi_Kurd
5.81723302 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.02332134 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.48474363 Turk_Southeast
6.61984139 Kurd_Sorani
7.17195929 Turkmen_Iraq
8.34120495 Kurd_Feyli
8.45888882 Iranian_Fars
8.62333462 Iranian_Lur
9.16005458 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.19126759 Turk_Central_East
9.35830113 Iranian_Khorasan
9.49350831 Turk_South
10.05759912 Turk_East
10.32119179 Iranian_Kerman
10.60937793 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.84435798 Turk_Central_West
12.15678000 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.73276875 Iranian_Mazandaran
12.82532651 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.87568251 Turk_Southwest

[Sterling Archer]

Hopefully this has not been posted before. An Avar from Dagestan:

Gedrosia 24.73 Pct
Siberian 1.42 Pct
Northwest_African 0.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.31 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.1 Pct
North_European 29.22 Pct
South_Asian 1.47 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.08 Pct
East_Asian 0.66 Pct
Caucasus 38.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: avar_dag
4.83055897 Dargin_Kaitag
5.25317999 Dargin_Kubachi
5.80785675 Avar
5.81769714 Lak
5.82372733 Dargin
7.82285753 Tabasaran
9.39912762 Lezgin
10.07136535 Chechen
11.89456178 Kumyk
13.49902959 Ingush
14.31226747 Balkar
14.86271510 Kabardin
15.41971141 Karachay
15.90998743 Abazin
16.03881542 Circassian
16.62466842 Adyghe
17.10798352 Ossetian
17.61674204 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
19.43482956 Ossetian_South
19.95857961 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
20.49506282 Nogai
22.70853804 Tajik_Lowland
23.54731620 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
24.09288899 Azerbaijani_Republic
24.12005804 Iranian_Khorasan

[Kyp]

Iranian Azerbaijani assumingly from East Azerbaijan province (Tebriz):

Gedrosian: 22.08
Siberian: 1.99
Northwest_African: 0.39
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.29
North_European: 8.86
South_Asian 2.55
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.42
East_Asian: 5.58
Caucasian: 36.83
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iran_eastAZ
3.66837839 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.87602890 Azerbaijani_Northwest
3.90614900 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
4.29373963 Azerbaijani_Republic
4.72768442 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
5.15471629 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.58320696 Turk_Southeast
6.52236154 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.98019341 Turkmen_Iraq
7.32338037 Azerbaijani_North
7.33068892 Yazidi_Kurd
7.92236076 Kurd_Sorani
8.17245985 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.29901801 Iran_Central
8.57133595 Turk_South
8.88053489 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.88167214 Turk_Central_East
9.13410641 Iranian_Fars
9.73527606 Iranian_Lur
9.77749457 Kurd_Feyli
9.98410737 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.08714033 Turk_Central_West
10.28286439 Iranian_Khorasan
10.98198525 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.17137413 Turk_East


Target: Iran_eastAZ
Distance: 2.2584% / 2.25841956 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.1 Azerbaijani_Iran
36.2 Azerbaijani_Northwest
10.6 Iranian_Khorasan
9.4 Arab_Iran
1.7 Japanese

New Iraqi Turkmen result from Kirkuk (ydna: J1):

Gedrosian: 20.81
Siberian: 2.23
Northwest_African: 1.32
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.64
North_European: 5.99
South_Asian 4.00
East_African 1.30
Southwest_Asian: 14.48
East_Asian: 1.38
Caucasian: 40.22
SSA: 0.65

Distance to: Turkmen_Kirkuk
3.05601047 Turkmen_Iraq
3.65544799 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
3.94409685 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
4.33350897 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.65472878 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.02582332 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.44565882 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.00135818 Yazidi_Kurd
6.11610987 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.19484463 Turk_Southeast
6.63868210 Kurd_Sorani
7.31313202 Azerbaijani_Northwest
7.45641335 Kurd_Feyli
7.56259876 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.57512376 Iranian_Lur
8.06901481 Iran_Central
8.10157392 Turk_East
8.49333857 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.83268928 Azerbaijani_North
9.16377651 Turk_Central_East
9.22469512 Iranian_Fars
9.87192990 Mandean
10.09970792 Azeri_Jew
10.36765644 Turk_South
10.86542682 Assyrian_North


Target: Turkmen_Kirkuk
Distance: 1.9326% / 1.93262274 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.1 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
31.9 Iraqi_Baghdad
22.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan

[Kyp]

Some new Iranian kits:

Azerbaijanis, Iran

Gedrosian: 18.52
Siberian: 2.89
Northwest_African: 0.95
Southeast_Asian: 1.76
Atlantic_Med: 9.63
North_European: 8.49
South_Asian 1.18
East_African 1.25
Southwest_Asian: 10.41
East_Asian: 3.27
Caucasian: 41.34
SSA: 0.32


Gedrosian: 20.05
Siberian: 3.33
Northwest_African: 1.60
Southeast_Asian: 0.60
Atlantic_Med: 6.44
North_European: 10.49
South_Asian 4.14
East_African 0.49
Southwest_Asian: 11.55
East_Asian: 3.30
Caucasian: 37.86
SSA: 0.15


Lur from Borujerd:

Gedrosian: 28.81
Siberian: 0.07
Northwest_African: 0.39
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.65
North_European: 6.09
South_Asian 2.33
East_African 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 14.11
East_Asian: 3.04
Caucasian: 38.01
SSA: 0.27

Kurd from Sanandaj:

Gedrosian: 25.26
Siberian: 0.75
Northwest_African: 2.65
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.29
North_European: 10.29
South_Asian 4.89
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.29
East_Asian: 1.72
Caucasian: 36.86
SSA: 0.00


Persians, Isfahan

Gedrosian: 27.39
Siberian: 0.75
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.90
Atlantic_Med: 5.62
North_European: 7.19
South_Asian 5.64
East_African 0.40
Southwest_Asian: 12.64
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 39.54
SSA: 0.00

Gedrosian: 26.39
Siberian: 2.39
Northwest_African: 0.07
Southeast_Asian: 0.54
Atlantic_Med: 5.96
North_European: 8.24
South_Asian 5.06
East_African 0.84
Southwest_Asian: 12.24
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 37.75
SSA: 0.00


Kurd from Naghadeh/Sulduz:

Gedrosian: 27.34
Siberian: 3.47
Northwest_African: 2.10
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.68
North_European: 6.99
South_Asian 2.99
East_African 0.28
Southwest_Asian: 12.29
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 37.86
SSA: 0.00


From Mashadd, East Iran:

Gedrosian: 24.21
Siberian: 7.35
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.15
Atlantic_Med: 6.18
North_European: 6.70
South_Asian 7.91
East_African 0.72
Southwest_Asian: 7.90
East_Asian: 12.15
Caucasian: 25.02
SSA: 0.70

From Khorasan (East Iran) half Kurdish:

Gedrosian: 26.02
Siberian: 1.91
Northwest_African: 0.12
Southeast_Asian: 2.16
Atlantic_Med: 5.81
North_European: 9.16
South_Asian 2.06
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.06
East_Asian: 3.56
Caucasian: 38.92
SSA: 0.22



Iranians with unknown region:

Gedrosian: 22.27
Siberian: 3.63
Northwest_African: 1.18
Southeast_Asian: 1.71
Atlantic_Med: 6.55
North_European: 8.16
South_Asian 5.07
East_African 0.23
Southwest_Asian: 13.31
East_Asian: 1.54
Caucasian: 36.36
SSA: 0.00


Gedrosian: 25.81
Siberian: 0.53
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.62
Atlantic_Med: 5.64
North_European: 11.01
South_Asian 5.20
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.75
East_Asian: 0.53
Caucasian: 37.97
SSA: 0.11

Gedrosian: 26.54
Siberian: 1.46
Northwest_African: 0.33
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.70
North_European: 10.07
South_Asian 4.94
East_African 1.51
Southwest_Asian: 12.67
East_Asian: 2.34
Caucasian: 34.45
SSA: 0.00

Gedrosian: 21.36
Siberian: 0.98
Northwest_African: 1.13
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.18
North_European: 12.64
South_Asian 6.25
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.14
East_Asian: 0.69
Caucasian: 35.04
SSA: 1.58


Gedrosian: 25.75
Siberian: 1.68
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.39
Atlantic_Med: 5.86
North_European: 10.37
South_Asian 3.48
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.05
East_Asian: 6.57
Caucasian: 35.15
SSA: 0.71

[Leto]

I kinda wanted to bury this thread but okay.
10-12% North European in Iran is quite a bit. Maybe Eastern Iranians?

[Kyp]

Iranian from Khorasan:

Gedrosian: 28.49
Siberian: 0.61
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.40
Atlantic_Med: 6.67
North_European: 12.58
South_Asian 6.92
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.88
East_Asian: 4.92
Caucasian: 28.64
SSA: 0.88

Distance to: Iranian_Khorasan2
5.35044858 Iranian_Khorasan
8.16333878 Iranian_Kerman
9.66517460 Turkmen_TM
9.67495736 Tajik_Herat
10.75553346 Iranian_Fars
13.42820911 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
13.51613110 Tajik_Mountain
13.58634609 Parsi_India
13.65773041 Iranian_Bandari
13.79318672 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.80744727 Turkmen_Iran
13.88800202 Tajik_Lowland
13.92577825 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.12404333 Kurd_Sorani
14.19738004 Yazidi_Kurd
14.86199852 Azerbaijani_Republic
15.29386151 Kurd_Kurmanji
15.44589913 Iranian_Lur
15.61654251 Kurd_Feyli
15.72298000 Iranian_Mazandaran
15.82481280 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.82782044 Lezgin
15.95932016 Azerbaijani_Turkey
16.18534213 Turkmen_Iraq
16.71280946 Turk_Southeast


Target: Iranian_Khorasan2
Distance: 1.8183% / 1.81834332 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.8 Iranian_Kerman
26.5 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
4.5 Japanese
2.2 Pomak_Bulgaria


South Iranian (3/4 Bakhtiar Nomad 1/4 Qashqai Nomad):


Gedrosian: 27.55
Siberian: 1.64
Northwest_African: 1.37
Southeast_Asian: 2.52
Atlantic_Med: 9.06
North_European: 8.09
South_Asian 4.39
East_African 0.03
Southwest_Asian: 12.46
East_Asian: 0.05
Caucasian: 32.44
SSA: 0.39

Distance to: Bakhtiar+Qashqai
5.64378419 Iranian_Kerman
5.75024347 Iranian_Fars
5.91148881 Iranian_Central
6.32944705 Iran_Khorasan
7.30010959 Yazidi_Kurd
7.92392579 Kurd_Sorani
8.85163262 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.02505402 Iranian_Lur
9.11571171 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.66187352 Kurd_Feyli
10.00111494 Turkmen_Iraq
10.47040591 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.57084197 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.65897508 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.95179903 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.19271504 Iranian_Mazandaran
12.32461764 Turk_Southeast
14.00714104 Parsi_India
14.00835465 Turkmen_TM
14.16005650 Iraqi_Baghdad
15.32927917 Turk_South
15.66729396 Turk_Central_East
15.69486540 Iranian_Bandari
15.83994003 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.89184382 Arab_Iran

Target: Bakhtiar+Qashqai
Distance: 2.0366% / 2.03655182 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Iranian_Kerman
39.4 Yazidi_Kurd
3.8 Spanish_Basque
3.3 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.3 Dai

[Sterling Archer]

Is the first one a Khorasan Turk? His EA, NE and Caucasus are all unusual for other Iranian groups, especially perisans.

[Kyp]

Is the first one a Khorasan Turk? His EA, NE and Caucasus are all unusual for other Iranian groups, especially perisans.

No he's not. I emailed the person. But it seems in Khorasan Persians and Kurds score EA too, and the North Euro also is higher than in rest of Iran.

[Sterling Archer]

No he's not. I emailed the person. But it seems in Khorasan Persians and Kurds score EA too, and the North Euro also is higher than in rest of Iran.

I see. Probably due to turkic influence that happened long time ago. Not surprising as Khorasan is in the eastern part of Iran.

[RogueState]

I am surprised that the genetic "gap" between North Caucasians and South Caucasians is big, given how close they are geographically

[harutsafaryan07]

Armenian ancestors from Istanbul, Tekirdag, and Braila, Romania

Gedrosia 15.67 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.32 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.73 Pct
North_European 3.87 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 16.38 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.51 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: Armenian_Istanbul/Tekirdag/Turkey/Braila/Romania
2.69484693 Armenian_West
4.33753386 Armenian_East
5.09548820 Greek_Pontus
5.73646232 Assyrian_West
6.07828923 Assyrian_North
6.29259088 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.39323862 Assyrian_South
6.72812009 Azeri_Jew
7.89828462 Hemshin
8.78915241 Turk_East

[Arzanene]

Armenian ancestors from Istanbul, Tekirdag, and Braila, Romania

Gedrosia 15.67 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.32 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.73 Pct
North_European 3.87 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 16.38 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.51 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: Armenian_Istanbul/Tekirdag/Turkey/Braila/Romania
2.69484693 Armenian_West
4.33753386 Armenian_East
5.09548820 Greek_Pontus
5.73646232 Assyrian_West
6.07828923 Assyrian_North
6.29259088 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.39323862 Assyrian_South
6.72812009 Azeri_Jew
7.89828462 Hemshin
8.78915241 Turk_East

do you have any results from the Lake Van region or its vicinity?

[Begtios]

I don't think I can find it, but are there any "Qala gavuru" results?
They are Turks of Christian faith living in Iraq/Kirkuk. An estimated 30,000 Qala gavuru lived in Kirkuk.

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani from Dagestan. Very little Atlantic_Med.
Y-DNA: R1a

Gedrosia 24,89
Siberian 1,58
Northwest_African 0,3
Southeast_Asia 0,03
Atlantic_Med 2,83
North_European 15,35
South_Asian 0,85
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 7,73
East_Asian 3,98
Caucasus 42,45
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Aze_Dagestan
5.79221029 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.00232104 Ingush
8.42540800 Kumyk
8.62622165 Chechen
9.49211778 Adyghe
9.77754570 Karachay
9.96425110 Lezgin
10.18328532 Balkar
10.40496036 Ossetian
10.44279656 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.45988050 Circassian
10.59967924 Abazin
10.62689513 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.08591900 Kabardin
11.21756658 Tabasaran
11.26182934 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.44972052 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.62963026 Ossetian_South
11.98217426 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.49824388 Lak
12.78893272 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.30348075 Kurd_Sorani
13.41438780 Dargin_Kubachi
13.56122413 Yazidi_Kurd
13.67961988 Kurd_Feyli

Target: Aze_Dagestan
Distance: 1.5644% / 1.56440808
29.8 Dargin_Kubachi
26.9 Georgian_Svan
20.2 Iranian_Mazandaran
14.5 Lezgin
4.9 Kuwait2
3.7 Japanese

[Saba]

Target: Bakhtiar+Qashqai
Distance: 2.0366% / 2.03655182 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Iranian_Kerman
39.4 Yazidi_Kurd
3.8 Spanish_Basque
3.3 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.3 Dai

Would you mind PMing this person's kit ?

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani of Padar tribe from Ağsu region of Azerbaijan.
Y-DNA: J2
MtDNA: K1a

His pictures (he has very interesting phenotype):
https://i.imgur.com/jyZtdJr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iNzh0Q0.jpg

He has high Atlantic_Med when compared to most Azerbaijanis and predictably is closer to the Turkish Az. average:
Gedrosia 22.35
Siberian 1.44
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asia 0
Atlantic_Med 11.22
North_European 7.68
South_Asian 2.91
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 8.81
East_Asian 5.01
Caucasus 40.58
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Azerb_padar
4.50695019 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.30116025 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.99745779 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.45806275 Turk_Southeast
7.64317342 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.91686807 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.15792866 Turk_Central_East
8.48479817 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.60679383 Turk_East
8.68741619 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.73935352 Yazidi_Kurd
9.32906748 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.43687978 Turk_South

According to him, his family has been living in the Shirvan province of Azerbaijan for at least last 200 years, but most of his matches on 23andme are from the East Azerbaijan province of Iran:
https://i.imgur.com/d2v4EtH.jpg

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani of Padar tribe from Ağsu region of Azerbaijan.
Y-DNA: J2
MtDNA: K1a



He has high Atlantic_Med when compared to most Azerbaijanis and predictably is closer to the Turkish Az. average:
Gedrosia 22.35
Siberian 1.44
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asia 0
Atlantic_Med 11.22
North_European 7.68
South_Asian 2.91
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 8.81
East_Asian 5.01
Caucasus 40.58
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Azerb_padar
4.50695019 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.30116025 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.99745779 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.45806275 Turk_Southeast
7.64317342 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.91686807 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.15792866 Turk_Central_East
8.48479817 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.60679383 Turk_East
8.68741619 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.73935352 Yazidi_Kurd
9.32906748 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.43687978 Turk_South

According to him, his family has been living in the Shirvan province of Azerbaijan for at least last 200 years, but most of his matches on 23andme are from the East Azerbaijan province of Iran:
https://i.imgur.com/d2v4EtH.jpg

The Padar tribe roamed the area between Iran and Azerbaijan (Moghan and Qaradagh/arasbaran) in their early history. Hamedan province has a large Azerbaijani population (which could be the explanation for the matches. Teheran is just normal, since apparently everyone gets it.

[Sterling Archer]

Result of 1/2 (father is Azerbaijani from Kurdamir) + 1/2 (Tat from Quba and Ismayilli). Very unusual because both North Euro and Atlantic_Med are elevated at the same time. Interesting 2Way.
Ydna: R-FGC24408

Gedrosia 19.99
Siberian 3.74
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asia 0.69
Atlantic_Med 10.47
North_European 12.2
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asia 12.72
East_Asian 1,89
Caucasus 38.29
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Aze_tat
5.26499763 Turk_Southeast
5.33908232 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.54726059 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.21380721 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.45263512 Turk_Central_East
6.75403583 Turk_South
7.31530587 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.32624051 Turk_Central_West
7.66703985 Dersim
7.99414786 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.15337967 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.84884738 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.35853621 Turk_East

Distance to: Aze_tat
2.95886938 18.20% Dargin_Kaitag + 81.80% Turk_Southeast
2.98156265 21.20% Tabasaran + 78.80% Turk_Southeast
2.99594984 17.20% Dargin + 82.80% Turk_Southeast
3.00268277 18.40% Avar + 81.60% Turk_Southeast
3.01388090 18.00% Dargin_Kubachi + 82.00% Turk_Southeast
3.03221391 19.20% Lak + 80.80% Turk_Southeast
3.03398218 21.60% Lezgin + 78.40% Turk_Southeast
3.06437347 32.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 67.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
3.10125956 87.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 12.60% Bulgarian_East
3.10617627 87.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 12.40% Pomak_Greece
3.11171089 88.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.80% Pomak_Bulgaria
3.12253823 88.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.40% Bulgarian_West
3.12685058 85.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 14.20% Turk_Makedonya
3.12779324 88.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.80% Bulgarian_Central
3.12838112 89.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 10.40% Montenegrin
3.12896803 88.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.40% Moldovan_South
3.13293486 88.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
3.13574611 89.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.00% Romanian
3.14413357 60.60% Dersim + 39.40% Turk_Northwest
3.14992914 88.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.60% Macedonian_East
3.16494500 84.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 15.40% Turk_Trakya
3.16790453 90.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 9.80% Serb
3.16841510 87.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 12.20% Greek_Macedonia
3.17798219 31.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 69.00% Dersim
3.17850712 86.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 14.00% Turk_Deliorman

[Sterling Archer]

New Azerbaijani result from Zərnə and Ləkit villages of Zaqatala.
Y-DNA: G-Z6638

Picture:
https://i.imgur.com/6IsH3yq.jpg

Gedrosia 24.05
Siberian 4.17
NW_African -
SE_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.84
North_European 17.87
South_Asian -
East_African -
SW_Asian 7.46
East_Asian 1.82
Caucasus 38.78
SSA -

Distance to: Aze_zagatala
5.09288720 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.66657745 Kumyk
6.75555327 Lezgin
6.95218671 Ingush
7.20224271 Chechen
7.47194754 Tabasaran
8.91853127 Kabardin
9.23009751 Lak
9.66794187 Balkar
9.68573177 Abazin
9.82129319 Karachay
10.20639505 Circassian
10.32822831 Adyghe
10.40576283 Avar
10.74801377 Dargin_Kubachi
10.98171207 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.03286907 Dargin_Kaitag
11.55805347 Ossetian
11.67688315 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.84349188 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.19276425 Dargin
12.42008454 Dersim
12.78383745 Iranian_Zoroastrian
12.99496441 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.59477841 Kurd_Kurmanji

Distance to: Aze_zagatala
2.24865721 69.60% Lezgin + 30.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.50187145 68.80% Lezgin + 31.20% Turk_South
2.52042537 69.60% Lezgin + 30.40% Turk_Central_East
2.59117857 45.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 54.60% Lak
2.63261757 50.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 49.80% Dargin_Kaitag
2.67921531 51.40% Avar + 48.60% Azerbaijani_Republic
2.72878424 53.40% Avar + 46.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.73664694 39.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 60.40% Tabasaran
2.75720408 71.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 28.60% Dargin_Kaitag
2.78795938 43.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 56.60% Lak
2.78854367 43.60% Azerbaijani_Iran + 56.40% Lak
2.80643571 69.20% Lezgin + 30.80% Turk_Southeast
2.82064417 34.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 65.20% Lezgin
2.83773962 52.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 47.20% Dargin

[Mejgusu]

Its very silent here unfortunately, a new thread would be good too. But here I have a very interesting result from Turkey(thanks @CommonSense), a Turk who has at least maternally Kurdish ancestry, on 23andme he is predominantly East Anatolian/Iranian but has an odd result. He seems to be Turkish+Kurdish mix but there is something weird on his result:

Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Gedrosia:22.24
Siberian:2.21
NW-African:0
SE-Asian:0
Atl.Med:15.33
North European:4.98
South Asian:4.96
East African:0
SW-Asian:13.51
East Asian:1.27
Caucasus:35.49
SSA:0

Distance to: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
8.46956906 Turk_Southeast
8.94589291 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.07179696 Turkmen_Iraq
9.20648684 Yazidi_Kurd
9.35027272 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.64442326 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.93532586 Dersim
9.98240452 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.89430585 Iranian_Central
10.93581273 Kurd_Sorani
10.95121454 Turk_Central_East
11.19737469 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.45966841 Iranian_Lur
11.46551787 Iranian_Fars
11.60492999 Turk_Central_West
11.64299790 Turk_South
11.94279281 Iranian_Zoroastrian
12.04443855 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.75231744 Kurd_Feyli
12.86897043 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.97895990 Turk_East
12.97914866 Iranian_Khorasan
13.07020658 Iranian_Kerman
13.68034722 Turk_Southwest
13.71338397 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Distance: 7.4484% / 7.44842846 | ADC: 1x RC
57.3 Turk_Southeast
42.7 Yazidi_Kurd

Target: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Distance: 2.8775% / 2.87750064 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.3 Yazidi_Kurd
25.8 Turkmen_Iraq
14.7 Sardinian
14.2 Parsi_India

Target: Ankara/Corum(Turk?Kurd?)
Distance: 2.0014% / 2.00141864 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Iranian_Lur
16.4 Sardinian
13.7 Turk_Southeast
11.7 Parsi_India

[Sterling Archer]

Mountain jew from Ismayilli, Azerbaijan.
Y-dna: J-P279

Mount_jew,17.94,0,1.31,0,9.91,4.85,0.23,0.64,20.57 ,1.32,43.23,0

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.78784920 Kurdish_Jew
4.92699706 Azeri_Jew
4.99369603 Mandean
5.04925737 Assyrian_South
5.27119531 Assyrian_North
5.30822946 Iraqi_Jew
5.38461698 Assyrian_West
6.95611242 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.40971462 Armenian_West
8.94578672 Nusayri_Turkey
8.98504313 Turkmen_Iraq
9.10322470 Lebanese_Muslim
9.46578576 Turk_East
9.89975252 Armenian_East
9.91749464 Lebanese_Christian
10.05698762 Syrian_Muslim
10.32072187 Turk_Southeast
10.44765524 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.89429208 Dersim
10.89857789 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.08603626 Arab_Iran
11.59551206 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.64577176 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.94165818 Turk_Central_East
12.00855112 Azerbaijani_Iran

[Sterling Archer]

The Padar tribe roamed the area between Iran and Azerbaijan (Moghan and Qaradagh/arasbaran) in their early history. Hamedan province has a large Azerbaijani population (which could be the explanation for the matches. Teheran is just normal, since apparently everyone gets it.

Not just Iran and Azerbaijan. They also apparently roamed Dagestan.
There is an Azerbaijani village named Padar:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80_(%D0%94%D0%B0%D0%B3 %D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD)

[Mesoman]

Mountain jew from Ismayilli, Azerbaijan.
Y-dna: J-P279

Mount_jew,17.94,0,1.31,0,9.91,4.85,0.23,0.64,20.57 ,1.32,43.23,0

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.78784920 Kurdish_Jew
4.92699706 Azeri_Jew
4.99369603 Mandean
5.04925737 Assyrian_South
5.27119531 Assyrian_North
5.30822946 Iraqi_Jew
5.38461698 Assyrian_West
6.95611242 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.40971462 Armenian_West
8.94578672 Nusayri_Turkey
8.98504313 Turkmen_Iraq
9.10322470 Lebanese_Muslim
9.46578576 Turk_East
9.89975252 Armenian_East
9.91749464 Lebanese_Christian
10.05698762 Syrian_Muslim
10.32072187 Turk_Southeast
10.44765524 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.89429208 Dersim
10.89857789 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.08603626 Arab_Iran
11.59551206 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.64577176 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.94165818 Turk_Central_East
12.00855112 Azerbaijani_Iran

Interesting. Can you add Georgian jewish, Azeri Jewish, west Armenian and Assyrian samples?

[Sterling Archer]

Interesting. Can you add Georgian jewish, Azeri Jewish, west Armenian and Assyrian samples?

Unfortunately I don't have any Georgian Jewish samples(and I don't know why the Georgian Jewish average was removed from vahaduo).
Armenian and Assyrian results have been posted already. To be frank I don't find their results very interesting as they are fairly homogeneous groups.

Here is another mountain jew from the same region of Azerbaijan. They do score somehow similar to Assyrians and Armenians. I have seen some who score almost indistinguishable from the Assyrians.

Gedrosia 17.37 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.28 Pct
North_European 2.52 Pct
South_Asian 3.12 Pct
East_African 0.9 Pct
Southwest_Asian 19.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.56600482 Mandean
4.83707556 Kurdish_Jew
5.08948917 Iraqi_Jew
5.39440451 Assyrian_South
5.51413638 Azeri_Jew
5.81529879 Assyrian_West
5.94172534 Assyrian_North
6.25391877 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.43150725 Nusayri_Turkey
7.44718067 Lebanese_Muslim
8.67630682 Armenian_West
8.74819981 Turkmen_Iraq
8.91323174 Lebanese_Christian
9.35990385 Syrian_Muslim
10.02326793 Turk_East
10.64984037 Turk_Southeast
10.70428886 Arab_Iran
10.71591807 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.78852631 Armenian_East
11.27542904 Palestinian_Christian
11.40299961 Dersim
11.62993981 Syrian_SW_Christian
11.85993676 Palestinian
11.92922881 Iraqi_Arab
11.94851455 Udi_Azerbaijan

[Mesoman]

Unfortunately I don't have any Georgian Jewish samples(and I don't know why the Georgian Jewish average was removed from vahaduo).
Armenian and Assyrian results have been posted already. To be frank I don't find their results very interesting as they are fairly homogeneous groups.

Here is another mountain jew from the same region of Azerbaijan. They do score somehow similar to Assyrians and Armenians. I have seen some who score almost indistinguishable from the Assyrians.

Gedrosia 17.37 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.28 Pct
North_European 2.52 Pct
South_Asian 3.12 Pct
East_African 0.9 Pct
Southwest_Asian 19.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.56600482 Mandean
4.83707556 Kurdish_Jew
5.08948917 Iraqi_Jew
5.39440451 Assyrian_South
5.51413638 Azeri_Jew
5.81529879 Assyrian_West
5.94172534 Assyrian_North
6.25391877 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.43150725 Nusayri_Turkey
7.44718067 Lebanese_Muslim
8.67630682 Armenian_West
8.74819981 Turkmen_Iraq
8.91323174 Lebanese_Christian
9.35990385 Syrian_Muslim
10.02326793 Turk_East
10.64984037 Turk_Southeast
10.70428886 Arab_Iran
10.71591807 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.78852631 Armenian_East
11.27542904 Palestinian_Christian
11.40299961 Dersim
11.62993981 Syrian_SW_Christian
11.85993676 Palestinian
11.92922881 Iraqi_Arab
11.94851455 Udi_Azerbaijan

Most Assyrians are homogeneous, even Armenians for that matter. Even though most mizrahis are homogeneous they still plot differently with other populations and each other. That's okay if you don't have Georgian Jewish samples.

[Mesoman]

For example one of them, a Georgian Jew

Population
Gedrosia 17.59 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.35 Pct
North_European 5.82 Pct
South_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 18.19 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: ***
4.40386194 Azeri_Jew
4.52952536 Assyrian_North
4.87841163 Assyrian_South
4.88155713 Assyrian_West
5.45609751 Armenian_West
5.68883116 Armenian_East
6.92017341 Kurdish_Jew
7.49259635 Turk_East
7.84125628 Mandean
7.89233806 Iraqi_Jew
8.32666200 Udi
10.14414117 Zaza
10.31898251 Greek_Pontus
10.36815798 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.65133325 Turk_Ahiska
11.23340554 Nusayri_Turkey
11.44471931 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.44558867 Hemshin
11.50396888 Turkmen_Iraq
11.67571839 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.12684625 Kurd_Adygea
12.24198922 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.26352723 Kurd_Sorani
12.30140642 Lebanese_Christian
12.33741869 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Target: ***
Distance: 2.1662% / 2.16618402 | R2P
72.4 Kurdish_Jew
27.6 Abkhazian


Target: ***
Distance: 1.0960% / 1.09604853 | R3P
57.9 Turk_Ahiska
27.8 Assyrian_North
14.3 Saudi

Target: ***
Distance: 1.2566% / 1.25657683 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.1 Azeri_Jew
25.1 Abkhazian
16.8 Armenian_East
8.8 Kuwait2
0.2 Chechen

Another one of them

Target: *7*7
Distance: 1.0365% / 1.03650585 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.2 Armenian_East
29.2 Abkhazian
19.6 Azeri_Jew
5.9 Yemenite_Mahra
5.1 Kuwait2

I assume this result belongs to a 100% Georgian Jew who is a match of that 75% Georgian Jew. If that guy's 25% comes from western Georgia then he is my genetical twin.

[Sterling Archer]

Most Assyrians are homogeneous, even Armenians for that matter. Even though most mizrahis are homogeneous they still plot differently with other populations and each other. That's okay if you don't have Georgian Jewish samples.

Another mountain jew from Azerbaijan. This one is even closer to Assyrians:
Az_jew,18.31,0, 0.76,0,9.76,2.48,1.11,0.35,21.15,0.35,45.79,0

Distance to: Az_jew
2.47537876 Kurdish_Jew
2.64202574 Azeri_Jew
2.67693855 Assyrian_South
2.85571357 Assyrian_North
3.30945615 Assyrian_West
3.41328288 Iraqi_Jew
3.68266208 Mandean
6.99147338 Armenian_West
9.08851473 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.51299637 Armenian_East
9.65155428 Nusayri_Turkey
10.00733231 Lebanese_Christian
10.56519285 Turk_East
10.79396127 Turkmen_Iraq
10.89097333 Lebanese_Muslim
11.83719561 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86986099 Syrian_Muslim
12.19802033 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.22973017 Palestinian_Christian
12.58363620 Syrian_SW_Christian
12.63347933 Dersim
12.87088187 Arab_Iran
13.15922870 Turk_Southeast
13.27592935 Greek_Pontus
13.40333541 Jordanian_Christian

[Lucas]

Unfortunately I don't have any Georgian Jewish samples(and I don't know why the Georgian Jewish average was removed from vahaduo).
A

I checked on archive.org, there wasn't such ref on D12 never.

[Sterling Archer]

I checked on archive.org, there wasn't such ref on D12 never.

Hmm.. Might be I'm mixing it with the original spreadsheet. I just had a look, and the average is there.

[Mesoman]

Another mountain jew from Azerbaijan. This one is even closer to Assyrians:
Az_jew,18.31,0, 0.76,0,9.76,2.48,1.11,0.35,21.15,0.35,45.79,0

Distance to: Az_jew
2.47537876 Kurdish_Jew
2.64202574 Azeri_Jew
2.67693855 Assyrian_South
2.85571357 Assyrian_North
3.30945615 Assyrian_West
3.41328288 Iraqi_Jew
3.68266208 Mandean
6.99147338 Armenian_West
9.08851473 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.51299637 Armenian_East
9.65155428 Nusayri_Turkey
10.00733231 Lebanese_Christian
10.56519285 Turk_East
10.79396127 Turkmen_Iraq
10.89097333 Lebanese_Muslim
11.83719561 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86986099 Syrian_Muslim
12.19802033 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.22973017 Palestinian_Christian
12.58363620 Syrian_SW_Christian
12.63347933 Dersim
12.87088187 Arab_Iran
13.15922870 Turk_Southeast
13.27592935 Greek_Pontus
13.40333541 Jordanian_Christian

I assume it says az_jew next to distance to because this Mountain Jewish sample is from Azerbaijan... Anyways, thanks for posting another mizrahi result. If you have any Iraqi Jewish, Kurdish Jewish, Iranian Jewish and Azeri Jewish samples, posting them would be highly appreciated.

[Sterling Archer]

I assume it says az_jew next to distance to because this Mountain Jewish sample is from Azerbaijan... Anyways, thanks for posting another mizrahi result. If you have any Iraqi Jewish, Kurdish Jewish, Iranian Jewish and Azeri Jewish samples, posting them would be highly appreciated.

Yes, this is a mountain jew from Azerbaijan(the same region as the previous person).
I'll post other Jewish results if I find them. There are quite a few of them on gedmatch.

[Mesoman]

Yes, this is a mountain jew from Azerbaijan(the same region as the previous person).
I'll post other Jewish results if I find them. There are quite a few of them on gedmatch.

Cool!

[Lucas]

Academic Mountain Jews from Dagestan :thumb001:




Filename,Gedrosia,Siberian,Northwest_African,South east_Asian,Atlantic_Med,North_European,South_Asian ,East_African,Southwest_Asian,East_Asian,Caucasus, Sub_Saharan
MJ1,12.62,1.24,2.19,0,13.55,11.26,0,0.22,18.52,0.1 2,40.28,0
MJ2,17.48,0,0.89,0.56,8.36,5.15,0.44,0.19,22.3,0,4 4.63,0
MJ3,19.07,0,0.3,2.29,6.94,4.38,0.29,1,21.42,0,44.3 1,0
MJ4,16.99,0.33,0.08,1.03,6.36,4.09,0,0,20.61,0,50. 26,0.26
MJ5,19.31,0,2.57,1.35,7.86,3.17,1.52,0.53,19.32,0, 44.38,0
MJ6,18.28,0,1.34,0,9.27,3.82,0.71,0.92,20.81,0.49, 44.36,0
MJ7,11.53,3.1,0.83,0,15.06,30.17,0.94,0.29,10.58,1 .29,26.21,0
MJ8,15.9,0.24,1.15,0,11.05,3.26,1.25,0,21.92,0,45. 23,0
MJ9,18.49,0,2.88,1.1,11.23,1.43,1.1,0,16.86,1.82,4 4.96,0.14
MJ10,15.94,0.07,1.41,0.29,10.35,1.5,0.25,1.13,21.3 8,0,47.59,0.08
MJ11,14.92,0,2.22,0,11.73,8,0,0,16.9,3.33,42.71,0. 18
MJ12,15.9,0,1.44,0,7.2,2.5,1.07,0,19.01,2.5,49.97, 0.4
MJ13,19.75,0.05,1.82,0,8.97,0.82,1.21,1.79,18.71,0 .31,46.58,0
MJ14,19.19,0,3.29,1.43,10.39,2.88,0,0.38,17.82,0,4 4.61,0
MJ15,16.95,0,2.37,1.36,10.29,1.08,0.06,0,19.13,0.1 9,48.57,0
MJ16,20.56,0.34,0.08,0,11.3,1.47,0,0,20.44,0.62,45 .06,0.14
MJ17,16.18,0.86,2.15,0,9.59,3.44,0.09,0,17.52,2.28 ,47.89,0
MJ18,19.22,0.22,3.78,0,5.95,6.3,0,0,17.39,0.09,47. 05,0

[Mesoman]

Academic Mountain Jews from Dagestan :thumb001:




Filename,Gedrosia,Siberian,Northwest_African,South east_Asian,Atlantic_Med,North_European,South_Asian ,East_African,Southwest_Asian,East_Asian,Caucasus, Sub_Saharan
MJ1,12.62,1.24,2.19,0,13.55,11.26,0,0.22,18.52,0.1 2,40.28,0
MJ2,17.48,0,0.89,0.56,8.36,5.15,0.44,0.19,22.3,0,4 4.63,0
MJ3,19.07,0,0.3,2.29,6.94,4.38,0.29,1,21.42,0,44.3 1,0
MJ4,16.99,0.33,0.08,1.03,6.36,4.09,0,0,20.61,0,50. 26,0.26
MJ5,19.31,0,2.57,1.35,7.86,3.17,1.52,0.53,19.32,0, 44.38,0
MJ6,18.28,0,1.34,0,9.27,3.82,0.71,0.92,20.81,0.49, 44.36,0
MJ7,11.53,3.1,0.83,0,15.06,30.17,0.94,0.29,10.58,1 .29,26.21,0
MJ8,15.9,0.24,1.15,0,11.05,3.26,1.25,0,21.92,0,45. 23,0
MJ9,18.49,0,2.88,1.1,11.23,1.43,1.1,0,16.86,1.82,4 4.96,0.14
MJ10,15.94,0.07,1.41,0.29,10.35,1.5,0.25,1.13,21.3 8,0,47.59,0.08
MJ11,14.92,0,2.22,0,11.73,8,0,0,16.9,3.33,42.71,0. 18
MJ12,15.9,0,1.44,0,7.2,2.5,1.07,0,19.01,2.5,49.97, 0.4
MJ13,19.75,0.05,1.82,0,8.97,0.82,1.21,1.79,18.71,0 .31,46.58,0
MJ14,19.19,0,3.29,1.43,10.39,2.88,0,0.38,17.82,0,4 4.61,0
MJ15,16.95,0,2.37,1.36,10.29,1.08,0.06,0,19.13,0.1 9,48.57,0
MJ16,20.56,0.34,0.08,0,11.3,1.47,0,0,20.44,0.62,45 .06,0.14
MJ17,16.18,0.86,2.15,0,9.59,3.44,0.09,0,17.52,2.28 ,47.89,0
MJ18,19.22,0.22,3.78,0,5.95,6.3,0,0,17.39,0.09,47. 05,0



There is a huge variation and differences in between the individuals as if some of them represented different ethnicities. It would be awesome if those many samples were available for Georgian Jews.

[Sterling Archer]

Academic Mountain Jews from Dagestan :thumb001:




Filename,Gedrosia,Siberian,Northwest_African,South east_Asian,Atlantic_Med,North_European,South_Asian ,East_African,Southwest_Asian,East_Asian,Caucasus, Sub_Saharan
MJ1,12.62,1.24,2.19,0,13.55,11.26,0,0.22,18.52,0.1 2,40.28,0
MJ2,17.48,0,0.89,0.56,8.36,5.15,0.44,0.19,22.3,0,4 4.63,0
MJ3,19.07,0,0.3,2.29,6.94,4.38,0.29,1,21.42,0,44.3 1,0
MJ4,16.99,0.33,0.08,1.03,6.36,4.09,0,0,20.61,0,50. 26,0.26
MJ5,19.31,0,2.57,1.35,7.86,3.17,1.52,0.53,19.32,0, 44.38,0
MJ6,18.28,0,1.34,0,9.27,3.82,0.71,0.92,20.81,0.49, 44.36,0
MJ7,11.53,3.1,0.83,0,15.06,30.17,0.94,0.29,10.58,1 .29,26.21,0
MJ8,15.9,0.24,1.15,0,11.05,3.26,1.25,0,21.92,0,45. 23,0
MJ9,18.49,0,2.88,1.1,11.23,1.43,1.1,0,16.86,1.82,4 4.96,0.14
MJ10,15.94,0.07,1.41,0.29,10.35,1.5,0.25,1.13,21.3 8,0,47.59,0.08
MJ11,14.92,0,2.22,0,11.73,8,0,0,16.9,3.33,42.71,0. 18
MJ12,15.9,0,1.44,0,7.2,2.5,1.07,0,19.01,2.5,49.97, 0.4
MJ13,19.75,0.05,1.82,0,8.97,0.82,1.21,1.79,18.71,0 .31,46.58,0
MJ14,19.19,0,3.29,1.43,10.39,2.88,0,0.38,17.82,0,4 4.61,0
MJ15,16.95,0,2.37,1.36,10.29,1.08,0.06,0,19.13,0.1 9,48.57,0
MJ16,20.56,0.34,0.08,0,11.3,1.47,0,0,20.44,0.62,45 .06,0.14
MJ17,16.18,0.86,2.15,0,9.59,3.44,0.09,0,17.52,2.28 ,47.89,0
MJ18,19.22,0.22,3.78,0,5.95,6.3,0,0,17.39,0.09,47. 05,0



Excellent! Although MJ7 and MJ1 are definitely mixed.
For example, MJ7:
Distance to: MJ7
8.44860343 Turk_Deliorman
8.89479623 Turk_Trakya
11.15140350 Pomak_Greece
11.75980867 Turk_Makedonya
12.13463638 Moldovan_Gagauz
12.38996772 Bulgarian_East
12.70737975 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.16227564 Bulgarian_Thrace
13.18132770 Pomak_Bulgaria

Distance to: MJ7
0.96204762 46.20% Iraqi_Jew + 53.80% Mordovian
0.98148676 46.40% Kurdish_Jew + 53.60% Mordovian
1.16550097 48.40% Mandean + 51.60% Russian
1.24960004 46.60% Mandean + 53.40% Mordovian
1.42989542 53.80% Assyrian_South + 46.20% Karelian
1.49712864 51.40% Azeri_Jew + 48.60% North_Russian
1.51776244 49.20% Mandean + 50.80% Russian_Kostroma
1.51984044 51.00% Mandean + 49.00% North_Russian
1.52163790 53.80% Azeri_Jew + 46.20% Finnish_West
1.56159426 53.60% Assyrian_North + 46.40% Karelian
1.57647388 51.20% Assyrian_South + 48.80% North_Russian

And MJ1 seems to be 1/4 something else:
Distance to: MJ1
8.53715995 Turk_Cyprus
9.32326123 Turk_Central_East
9.43381683 Nusayri_Turkey
9.57719688 Turk_Central_West
9.74106257 Lebanese_Muslim
9.75420422 Turk_Southeast
10.69362427 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.93450959 Turk_South
11.27265718 Greek_Kos
11.30134063 Turk_East
11.44995196 Greek_Cappadocia


Distance to: MJ1
2.34655091 69.40% Kurdish_Jew + 30.60% Pomak_Greece
2.38519396 69.20% Iraqi_Jew + 30.80% Pomak_Greece
2.64726488 70.80% Kurdish_Jew + 29.20% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.67196322 76.60% Kurdish_Jew + 23.40% Moldovan_North
2.67807572 76.40% Iraqi_Jew + 23.60% Moldovan_North
2.79127021 78.80% Iraqi_Jew + 21.20% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.81150880 79.20% Kurdish_Jew + 20.80% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.81947211 75.40% Kurdish_Jew + 24.60% Moldovan_Central
2.83631286 70.60% Iraqi_Jew + 29.40% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.85798650 29.20% Bulgarian_Central + 70.80% Kurdish_Jew
2.87278050 23.40% Bosnian + 76.60% Kurdish_Jew
2.88515736 28.20% Bulgarian_West + 71.80% Kurdish_Jew
2.90137205 71.80% Kurdish_Jew + 28.20% Moldovan_South
2.90142853 75.00% Iraqi_Jew + 25.00% Moldovan_Central

[Lucas]

Excellent! Although MJ7 and MJ1 are definitely mixed.
For example, MJ7:
Distance to: MJ7
8.44860343 Turk_Deliorman
8.89479623 Turk_Trakya
11.15140350 Pomak_Greece
11.75980867 Turk_Makedonya
12.13463638 Moldovan_Gagauz
12.38996772 Bulgarian_East
12.70737975 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.16227564 Bulgarian_Thrace
13.18132770 Pomak_Bulgaria

Distance to: MJ7
0.96204762 46.20% Iraqi_Jew + 53.80% Mordovian
0.98148676 46.40% Kurdish_Jew + 53.60% Mordovian
1.16550097 48.40% Mandean + 51.60% Russian
1.24960004 46.60% Mandean + 53.40% Mordovian
1.42989542 53.80% Assyrian_South + 46.20% Karelian
1.49712864 51.40% Azeri_Jew + 48.60% North_Russian
1.51776244 49.20% Mandean + 50.80% Russian_Kostroma
1.51984044 51.00% Mandean + 49.00% North_Russian
1.52163790 53.80% Azeri_Jew + 46.20% Finnish_West
1.56159426 53.60% Assyrian_North + 46.40% Karelian
1.57647388 51.20% Assyrian_South + 48.80% North_Russian

And MJ1 seems to be 1/4 something else:
Distance to: MJ1
8.53715995 Turk_Cyprus
9.32326123 Turk_Central_East
9.43381683 Nusayri_Turkey
9.57719688 Turk_Central_West
9.74106257 Lebanese_Muslim
9.75420422 Turk_Southeast
10.69362427 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.93450959 Turk_South
11.27265718 Greek_Kos
11.30134063 Turk_East
11.44995196 Greek_Cappadocia


Distance to: MJ1
2.34655091 69.40% Kurdish_Jew + 30.60% Pomak_Greece
2.38519396 69.20% Iraqi_Jew + 30.80% Pomak_Greece
2.64726488 70.80% Kurdish_Jew + 29.20% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.67196322 76.60% Kurdish_Jew + 23.40% Moldovan_North
2.67807572 76.40% Iraqi_Jew + 23.60% Moldovan_North
2.79127021 78.80% Iraqi_Jew + 21.20% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.81150880 79.20% Kurdish_Jew + 20.80% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.81947211 75.40% Kurdish_Jew + 24.60% Moldovan_Central
2.83631286 70.60% Iraqi_Jew + 29.40% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.85798650 29.20% Bulgarian_Central + 70.80% Kurdish_Jew
2.87278050 23.40% Bosnian + 76.60% Kurdish_Jew
2.88515736 28.20% Bulgarian_West + 71.80% Kurdish_Jew
2.90137205 71.80% Kurdish_Jew + 28.20% Moldovan_South
2.90142853 75.00% Iraqi_Jew + 25.00% Moldovan_Central

Yes few Caucasian input too like Lezgin but it is expected

[Mesoman]

There are a few who are mixed with southern european like populations. These samples might be from Israel and not from Azerbaijan or north caucasus based on the diversity...

[Lucas]

There are a few who are mixed with southern european like populations. These samples might be from Israel and not from Azerbaijan or north caucasus based on the diversity...

It was said they were collected in Derbent in Dagestan.

[Sterling Archer]

There are a few who are mixed with southern european like populations. These samples might be from Israel and not from Azerbaijan or north caucasus based on the diversity...

I don't see any unusual element aside from those individuals that are clearly part Russian. Some of the individuals have local Caucasian admixture, but I don't see Southern Europe(I suspect even that could be explained by Ashkenazi influence).

[Mesoman]

I don't see any unusual element aside from those individuals that are clearly part Russian. Some of the individuals have local Caucasian admixture, but I don't see Southern Europe(I suspect even that could be explained by Ashkenazi influence).

One of the samoles is closest to cypriots some other samples have considerably low gedrosia and caucasus scores and plot unusually. If anything quite a number of these mountain jews plot "weirdly". I don't see any of them having russian admixture. Again, if anything some of them are either ashkenazi or greek mixes.

[Mesoman]

One of the samoles is closest to cypriots some other samples have considerably low gedrosia and caucasus scores and plot unusually. If anything quite a number of these mountain jews plot "weirdly". I don't see any of them having russian admixture. Again, if anything some of them are either ashkenazi or greek mixes.



Distance to: MJ17
3.95189828 Assyrian_West
4.09465505 Assyrian_South
4.11238374 Assyrian_North
4.19436527 Azeri_Jew
4.53703648 Armenian_West
6.15711783 Armenian_East
6.33612658 Kurdish_Jew
7.04714836 Iraqi_Jew
7.73698262 Turk_East
7.77787889 Mandean
9.51773608 Greek_Pontus
9.62965212 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.64863203 Nusayri_Turkey
9.99526888 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.73319617 Lebanese_Christian
11.36343258 Hemshin
11.50634608 Greek_Cappadocia
11.59028041 Turk_Ahiska
11.75476499 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.01985441 Lebanese_Muslim
12.27874586 Turk_Central_East
12.31962662 Turkmen_Iraq
12.42947304 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
12.43485022 Turk_Southeast
12.48489487 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Distance to: MJ16
3.67039507 Azeri_Jew
3.67446595 Mandean
3.78774339 Assyrian_North
3.88892016 Assyrian_South
4.18320451 Kurdish_Jew
4.37611700 Assyrian_West
4.62705090 Iraqi_Jew
7.47570732 Armenian_West
9.62970405 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.21247277 Armenian_East
10.37810195 Nusayri_Turkey
10.63107238 Turkmen_Iraq
10.82167270 Turk_East
11.21198466 Lebanese_Christian
11.41566468 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.69747409 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.89463745 Lebanese_Muslim
12.05924956 Dersim
12.59229923 Yazidi_Kurd
12.96249204 Iranian_Lur
12.98957659 Syrian_Muslim
13.01489915 Kurd_Sorani
13.10238146 Turk_Southeast
13.10469000 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.33688119 Kurd_Feyli

Distance to: MJ15
2.78185190 Assyrian_West
2.80092842 Assyrian_South
2.98792570 Assyrian_North
3.38923295 Azeri_Jew
4.62202337 Kurdish_Jew
4.86225256 Armenian_West
5.23410928 Iraqi_Jew
6.58987102 Mandean
8.06264845 Armenian_East
9.62469220 Nusayri_Turkey
10.02136218 Lebanese_Christian
10.22570780 Greek_Pontus
10.40892406 Turk_East
11.16531236 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.11932341 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.19662248 Hemshin
12.29895524 Lebanese_Muslim
12.32890506 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.55010359 Palestinian_Christian
12.57272445 Greek_Cappadocia
12.96127694 Syrian_SW_Christian
13.47273543 Turk_Ahiska
13.49221627 Laz
13.58105298 Turkmen_Iraq
13.73571258 Jordanian_Christian

Distance to: MJ14
3.50051425 Azeri_Jew
3.87872402 Assyrian_South
4.00971321 Assyrian_North
4.29753418 Assyrian_West
4.66101920 Mandean
4.95733800 Kurdish_Jew
5.59991071 Iraqi_Jew
6.57347701 Armenian_West
8.34239774 Turk_East
8.47828992 Armenian_East
8.76554619 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.28032327 Nusayri_Turkey
9.45521549 Turkmen_Iraq
9.60889692 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.94184088 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.32909967 Dersim
10.40348019 Lebanese_Muslim
10.83258972 Lebanese_Christian
11.26585106 Turk_Southeast
11.32782415 Yazidi_Kurd
11.50224761 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.57522354 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.61857564 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.00796402 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.16992194 Kurd_Sorani

Distance to: MJ13
2.67566814 Azeri_Jew
3.38688648 Assyrian_North
3.43084538 Assyrian_South
4.16913660 Mandean
4.22653522 Assyrian_West
4.45122455 Kurdish_Jew
5.26093148 Iraqi_Jew
6.63070132 Armenian_West
9.10666789 Armenian_East
9.98133258 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.13102167 Turk_East
10.65436530 Turkmen_Iraq
11.00155898 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.19390012 Nusayri_Turkey
11.57860959 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.99419443 Dersim
12.05120741 Lebanese_Christian
12.22332197 Lebanese_Muslim
12.44282524 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.55422638 Greek_Pontus
12.75357989 Yazidi_Kurd
12.79206785 Iranian_Lur
12.84511580 Kurd_Feyli
13.01384263 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.13612576 Kurd_Sorani

Distance to: MJ12
5.71854877 Assyrian_North
5.75998264 Azeri_Jew
5.80853682 Assyrian_South
5.91136194 Assyrian_West
6.62825769 Armenian_West
7.27521821 Kurdish_Jew
8.03830828 Iraqi_Jew
8.09205783 Armenian_East
8.88184103 Mandean
10.10008911 Greek_Pontus
10.34649216 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.58340210 Turk_East
11.20610102 Hemshin
12.17598867 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.27140986 Turk_Ahiska
12.33887353 Nusayri_Turkey
12.50129593 Laz
12.51320902 Lebanese_Christian
13.11617703 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
13.44040922 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.12581679 Turkmen_Iraq
14.25045262 Lebanese_Muslim
14.26326400 Greek_Cappadocia
14.56059065 Palestinian_Christian
15.00056999 Dersim

Distance to: MJ11
7.32876524 Turk_East
7.44586462 Turk_Central_East
7.73621354 Turk_Southeast
8.50876019 Nusayri_Turkey
8.67865197 Assyrian_West
8.88551068 Assyrian_South
9.02626168 Azeri_Jew
9.07215520 Assyrian_North
9.19854336 Armenian_East
9.36022436 Armenian_West
9.44712655 Turk_Central_West
9.53716939 Lebanese_Muslim
9.63776426 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.88670825 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.94139829 Kurdish_Jew
9.95723857 Turk_South
10.00019000 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.03456526 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.21878662 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.29397882 Iraqi_Jew
10.32351684 Turk_Cyprus
10.48389718 Greek_Cappadocia
10.55560988 Mandean
10.77509165 Lebanese_Christian
10.90791914 Turkmen_Iraq

Distance to: MJ10
3.22656164 Assyrian_South
3.25901826 Assyrian_West
3.35481743 Kurdish_Jew
3.72588245 Assyrian_North
3.79114758 Iraqi_Jew
4.09936580 Azeri_Jew
6.18246715 Mandean
6.51022273 Armenian_West
8.41795700 Lebanese_Christian
8.72059631 Nusayri_Turkey
9.58594805 Armenian_East
10.54126178 Palestinian_Christian
10.87167880 Lebanese_Muslim
10.93839111 Syrian_SW_Christian
11.32715322 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.68346695 Turk_East
11.73137247 Jordanian_Christian
11.94483152 Greek_Pontus
12.30436914 Syrian_Muslim
12.90829578 Greek_Cappadocia
12.99253247 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.49804801 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.65216833 Turkmen_Iraq
13.97558228 Greek_Cypriot
14.20019014 Palestinian

Distance to: MJ9
3.90271700 Azeri_Jew
3.97032744 Assyrian_South
4.21193542 Assyrian_North
4.29925575 Assyrian_West
5.33948499 Mandean
5.44496097 Kurdish_Jew
5.90447288 Iraqi_Jew
6.06654762 Armenian_West
8.27491390 Turk_East
8.45606291 Armenian_East
8.86345305 Nusayri_Turkey
9.51803551 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.05305426 Turkmen_Iraq
10.17670379 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.59350745 Lebanese_Muslim
10.60427272 Lebanese_Christian
10.75216257 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.15388273 Dersim
11.25706889 Turk_Southeast
11.43669970 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.89948738 Azerbaijani_Republic
12.01735828 Turk_Central_East
12.13424081 Yazidi_Kurd
12.20501536 Greek_Pontus
12.20542093 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Distance to: MJ8
3.19782739 Kurdish_Jew
3.56621648 Iraqi_Jew
3.95072145 Assyrian_South
4.01575647 Assyrian_West
4.46901555 Assyrian_North
4.65591022 Azeri_Jew
5.53698474 Mandean
7.43866251 Nusayri_Turkey
7.44633467 Lebanese_Christian
7.56337887 Armenian_West
9.15216368 Lebanese_Muslim
9.23788396 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.62233340 Palestinian_Christian
10.08958374 Armenian_East
10.09814339 Syrian_SW_Christian
10.36619506 Syrian_Muslim
10.82258749 Jordanian_Christian
11.09969819 Turk_East
11.91986577 Turkmen_Iraq
12.44427579 Greek_Cappadocia
12.71735428 Palestinian
12.88800993 Arab_Iran
12.95673570 Greek_Cypriot
13.06160021 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.15542094 Turk_Southeast

Distance to: MJ7
8.44860343 Turk_Deliorman
8.89479623 Turk_Trakya
11.15140350 Pomak_Greece
11.75980867 Turk_Makedonya
12.13463638 Moldovan_Gagauz
12.38996772 Bulgarian_East
12.70737975 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.16227564 Bulgarian_Thrace
13.18132770 Pomak_Bulgaria
13.43236762 Bulgarian_Central
13.86900862 Moldovan_South
14.44554603 Bulgarian_West
14.97948597 Romanian
15.21104204 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
15.42216262 Greek_Macedonia
15.47733504 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.57822519 Macedonian_Polog
15.71234865 Greek_Thessaly
15.75823594 Greek_Thrace
15.78751722 Greek_Peloponnese
15.84295743 Macedonian_South
16.09583486 Macedonian_Vardar
16.25634953 Macedonian_East
16.73398936 Albanian_Kosovo
16.74758789 Montenegrin

Distance to: MJ6
3.49177605 Kurdish_Jew
3.63346942 Azeri_Jew
3.87003876 Mandean
3.89825602 Assyrian_South
4.10598344 Assyrian_North
4.28192714 Iraqi_Jew
4.44734752 Assyrian_West
7.51545740 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.81234280 Armenian_West
9.41853492 Turkmen_Iraq
9.48051159 Nusayri_Turkey
9.65783102 Armenian_East
9.83183096 Lebanese_Muslim
9.88756289 Turk_East
10.14943841 Lebanese_Christian
10.70968720 Syrian_Muslim
10.93176564 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.11330734 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.37989455 Dersim
11.44814395 Arab_Iran
11.64112108 Turk_Southeast
12.27723503 Palestinian_Christian
12.43097341 Yazidi_Kurd
12.47984375 Azerbaijani_Republic
12.54845807 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Distance to: MJ5
3.80203893 Mandean
3.89586961 Azeri_Jew
4.62772082 Kurdish_Jew
4.68016025 Assyrian_South
4.75072626 Assyrian_North
5.44069848 Assyrian_West
5.54469115 Iraqi_Jew
7.57840353 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.19799976 Armenian_West
8.35861831 Turkmen_Iraq
9.50733401 Turk_East
9.69592698 Armenian_East
9.80949540 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.24937559 Dersim
10.38226854 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.96301966 Lebanese_Muslim
10.98075589 Nusayri_Turkey
11.11706796 Yazidi_Kurd
11.14473418 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.30683864 Kurd_Sorani
11.37194794 Kurd_Feyli
11.55944203 Arab_Iran
11.61046080 Iranian_Lur
11.66193809 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.69133867 Turk_Southeast

Distance to: MJ4
6.23656957 Assyrian_North
6.29124789 Azeri_Jew
6.55430393 Assyrian_South
6.66685833 Assyrian_West
7.64344163 Armenian_West
7.73990956 Kurdish_Jew
8.61693681 Armenian_East
8.64306659 Iraqi_Jew
9.25010811 Mandean
11.17821095 Greek_Pontus
11.35863548 Turk_East
11.56923939 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.89029436 Hemshin
12.18905657 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.50667422 Turk_Ahiska
13.04237325 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
13.10589180 Laz
13.57585356 Nusayri_Turkey
13.59376328 Lebanese_Christian
13.81630197 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.37971140 Turkmen_Iraq
14.97235786 Dersim
15.14949504 Kurd_Kurmanji
15.28454775 Lebanese_Muslim
15.34528918 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Distance to: MJ3
5.72592351 Mandean
5.79711135 Azeri_Jew
5.88104583 Kurdish_Jew
6.32114705 Assyrian_North
6.36138350 Assyrian_South
6.67624895 Iraqi_Jew
6.94045388 Assyrian_West
8.37127828 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.60348895 Turkmen_Iraq
9.73661646 Armenian_West
10.95185372 Armenian_East
11.04325586 Turk_East
11.20445001 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.50892697 Arab_Iran
11.56549178 Dersim
11.65057938 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.89857554 Lebanese_Muslim
11.98585833 Syrian_Muslim
12.19492107 Nusayri_Turkey
12.27013040 Kurd_Sorani
12.48407385 Yazidi_Kurd
12.52598898 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.57392938 Kurd_Feyli
12.67000789 Lebanese_Christian
12.69082740 Turk_Southeast

Distance to: MJ2
4.88627670 Kurdish_Jew
5.44928436 Azeri_Jew
5.58678799 Assyrian_South
5.58772762 Iraqi_Jew
5.70465599 Assyrian_North
5.80186177 Mandean
5.94211242 Assyrian_West
8.49239071 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.05469491 Armenian_West
10.41952494 Nusayri_Turkey
10.48001431 Armenian_East
10.56676866 Turkmen_Iraq
10.57312158 Lebanese_Christian
10.64929575 Lebanese_Muslim
10.97216478 Syrian_Muslim
10.98230850 Turk_East
11.75248910 Arab_Iran
12.10985549 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.19234596 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.31618041 Palestinian_Christian
12.50528688 Dersim
12.64760452 Turk_Southeast
12.73457106 Syrian_SW_Christian
12.90941904 Iraqi_Arab
13.34590574 Jordanian_Christian

Distance to: MJ1
8.53715995 Turk_Cyprus
9.32326123 Turk_Central_East
9.43381683 Nusayri_Turkey
9.57719688 Turk_Central_West
9.74106257 Lebanese_Muslim
9.75420422 Turk_Southeast
10.69362427 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.93450959 Turk_South
11.27265718 Greek_Kos
11.30134063 Turk_East
11.44995196 Greek_Cappadocia
11.46470671 Lebanese_Christian
11.62903693 Greek_Rhodes
11.64997425 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.73093347 Syrian_Muslim
11.73832186 Greek_Cypriot
11.79752093 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.89223696 Greek_Crete
12.57568288 Turk_Southwest
12.57850945 Assyrian_West
12.76307957 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.87152672 Assyrian_South
13.05216840 Palestinian_Christian
13.13653303 Assyrian_North
13.14260629 Armenian_East

From these results there are individuals who plot relatively closely to lebanese muslims and christians than others, not to mention there is one that plots closest to turks and then levantines. In these cases there is an obvious mix but also the ones who have like 48-50 caucasus might have a little caucasus input as well. Even the georgian jewish sample I replied to a few pages back doesn't score that much caucasus...

[Mesoman]

It is just odd that this "tight" community from the nearby regions and the same country score this differently from each other.

[Leto]

MJ7 is clearly half Russian. I don't know why such individuals are even included in studies.

[Mesoman]

MJ7 is clearly half Russian. I don't know why such individuals are even included in studies.

If you add 50% russian and 50% mountain jew some of the closest population groups you get are a few western turkish populations, bulgarians, moldovans and crimean tatars? Now I get what you mean by partly russian. Imo this mj7 has gotta have some southern european mixed with eastern slavic but definitely not 50% russian. He could even be part bulgarian. Also, other results seem pretty questionable for an average mountain jewish result. Again, mj1, mj8, mj11, mj17 seem to be moderately to very off from the average.

[Leto]

If you add 50% russian and 50% mountain jew some of the closest population groups you get are a few western turkish populations, bulgarians, moldovans and crimean tatars?
Yes, you do and the distance is not even that close.


Here is the average without MJ1 and MJ7


Mountain_Jew_Dagestan,17.76,0.13,1.74,0.59,9.18,3. 33,0.50,0.37,19.47,0.73,46.14,0.08


Distance to: Mountain_Jew_Dagestan
2.10848287 Azeri_Jew
2.42190008 Assyrian_South
2.52489604 Assyrian_North
2.92887350 Assyrian_West
3.71288298 Kurdish_Jew
4.67363884 Iraqi_Jew
4.79316180 Mandean
5.88870954 Armenian_West
7.89084913 Armenian_East
8.82691905 Turk_East

Distance to: Mountain_Jew_Dagestan
0.95860204 86.00% Kurdish_Jew + 14.00% Ossetian_South
1.07063740 83.00% Iraqi_Jew + 17.00% Ossetian_South
1.20884264 86.20% Kurdish_Jew + 13.80% Ossetian
1.21126792 14.80% Abkhazian + 85.20% Kurdish_Jew
1.26775454 18.20% Abkhazian + 81.80% Iraqi_Jew
1.27187696 14.20% Adyghe + 85.80% Kurdish_Jew
1.38784725 20.00% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 80.00% Kurdish_Jew
1.44103504 13.00% Karachay + 87.00% Kurdish_Jew
1.47000905 12.60% Balkar + 87.40% Kurdish_Jew
1.48413940 13.20% Circassian + 86.80% Kurdish_Jew

Target: Mountain_Jew_Dagestan
Distance: 1.5690% / 1.56900054 | ADC: 0.5x RC
85.7 Azeri_Jew
10.4 Syrian_Muslim
3.9 Ossetian

[Mesoman]

Yes, you do and the distance is not even that close.


Here is the average without MJ1 and MJ7


Mountain_Jew_Dagestan,17.76,0.13,1.74,0.59,9.18,3. 33,0.50,0.37,19.47,0.73,46.14,0.08


Distance to: Mountain_Jew_Dagestan
2.10848287 Azeri_Jew
2.42190008 Assyrian_South
2.52489604 Assyrian_North
2.92887350 Assyrian_West
3.71288298 Kurdish_Jew
4.67363884 Iraqi_Jew
4.79316180 Mandean
5.88870954 Armenian_West
7.89084913 Armenian_East
8.82691905 Turk_East

Distance to: Mountain_Jew_Dagestan
0.95860204 86.00% Kurdish_Jew + 14.00% Ossetian_South
1.07063740 83.00% Iraqi_Jew + 17.00% Ossetian_South
1.20884264 86.20% Kurdish_Jew + 13.80% Ossetian
1.21126792 14.80% Abkhazian + 85.20% Kurdish_Jew
1.26775454 18.20% Abkhazian + 81.80% Iraqi_Jew
1.27187696 14.20% Adyghe + 85.80% Kurdish_Jew
1.38784725 20.00% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 80.00% Kurdish_Jew
1.44103504 13.00% Karachay + 87.00% Kurdish_Jew
1.47000905 12.60% Balkar + 87.40% Kurdish_Jew
1.48413940 13.20% Circassian + 86.80% Kurdish_Jew

Target: Mountain_Jew_Dagestan
Distance: 1.5690% / 1.56900054 | ADC: 0.5x RC
85.7 Azeri_Jew
10.4 Syrian_Muslim
3.9 Ossetian

That wasn't my point. From the samples i mentioned in the post you replied to have either levantine shifts or even more "northern" anatolian/caucasus shifts. While mj1 and mj7 are exempt from the average, it gets more realistic, but individually it isn't only mj1 or mj7 that's considerably different.As you are saying for 50% russian 50% mountain jewish mj7 well...

[Leto]

That wasn't my point. From the samples i mentioned in the post you replied to have either levantine shifts or even more "northern" anatolian/caucasus shifts. While mj1 and mj7 are exempt from the average, it gets more realistic, but individually it isn't only mj1 or mj7 that's considerably different.As you are saying for 50% russian 50% mountain jewish mj7 well...
All the others seem to be more or less pure. At least not 50 or 25 percent foreign. No ethnicity will be 100% monolithic or homogenous. A 2-3% variation is to be expected nearly everywhere.

[Lucas]

Yes you can detect outliers and remove them. Then I can add pure average to Vahaduo.

[Leto]

Yes you can detect outliers and remove them. Then I can add pure average to Vahaduo.
I think what I just did should be good enough.

0.95860204 86.00% Kurdish_Jew + 14.00% Ossetian_South

Basically Babylonian/Persian Jew plus some Caucasian shift.

[Mesoman]

I think what I just did should be good enough.

0.95860204 86.00% Kurdish_Jew + 14.00% Ossetian_South

Basically Babylonian/Persian Jew plus some Caucasian shift.

I dunno mate about persian jews being purely ancient babylonian Jewish. Even Iraqi jews aren't probably 100% ancient babylonian jewish. The difference might be 5-10% at max in iraqi jews and in persian jew a little bit more than that. As for the mountain jews in general they do show the closest affinity to kurdish jews, iranian jews out of all the other mizrahi jews. I don't know if they interbred with caucasians but they might have interbred slightly with iranians plotting them a tad north to persian and kurdish jews. As for the other results i mentioned in the previous post,imo there seems to be a difference worth of 5-15% either to the levantine side or the anatolian/caucasus side.

[Mesoman]

It is probably safe to say that any mountain jew who scores more caucasus and plots closer to all the 3 assyrian groups, azeri jews and both armenian groups along with eastern black sea turks, eastern turks and pontic greeks compared to georgian jews is around 15% caucasus admixed...

[Sterling Archer]

A new result from Azerbaijan. Father of this person is Azerbaijani from Fuzuli, while the mother is Crimean Tatar(although Tatar side might be additionally mixed with Ukrainian or something).
Apparently, Crimean Tatar mother has emigrated to Shusha, Azerbaijan in the early to mid 20th century.

Gedrosia 15.57 Pct
Siberian 1.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.02 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.58 Pct
North_European 26.62 Pct
South_Asian 0.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.78 Pct
East_Asian 1.93 Pct
Caucasus 30.44 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Az_tatar
8.64134249 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.84439434 Turk_Trakya
10.81631176 Turk_Deliorman
12.70199197 Turk_Makedonya
13.61390466 Bulgarian_Thrace
14.12182354 Moldovan_Gagauz
14.23649887 Pomak_Greece
14.73410669 Turk_Northwest
14.79478962 Bulgarian_East
15.20058552 Greek_Peloponnese
15.64875714 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.84642231 Greek_Thrace

Distance to: Az_tatar
1.63120324 55.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 44.20% Bosnian
1.66903434 57.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 42.60% Croat_South
1.71991674 52.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 47.20% Moldovan_Central
1.75661164 60.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 39.20% Slovenian
1.82816022 59.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 41.00% Croat
1.96627664 53.40% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 46.60% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
1.97539758 55.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 44.20% Moldovan_North
1.98305521 59.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 40.20% Hungarian
2.01263129 60.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 39.40% Hungarian_Alföld
2.01393775 59.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 40.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
2.02950427 62.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 37.60% Sorb_Lusatia
2.09843753 52.20% Moldovan_North + 47.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.09847203 63.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 36.40% Polish
2.14454045 61.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 39.00% Hungarian_North
2.16165169 53.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 46.60% Serb
2.17466274 56.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 43.60% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
2.18793174 59.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 40.20% Slovak
2.23338340 63.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 36.40% Polish
2.23716130 62.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 37.60% Sorb_Lusatia
2.27174752 55.60% Dersim + 44.40% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.27735814 48.80% Croat + 51.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.32830193 36.40% Lezgin + 63.60% Turk_Deliorman
2.34600781 38.60% Polish_Warmia-Masuria + 61.40% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.34676621 57.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 42.20% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.37270393 64.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 35.60% Polish_Warmia-Masuria

[Lucas]

I think what I just did should be good enough.

0.95860204 86.00% Kurdish_Jew + 14.00% Ossetian_South

Basically Babylonian/Persian Jew plus some Caucasian shift.

Yes for me is good results for them.

[Kyp]

Iranian Jew:

Gedrosian: 20.70
Siberian: 0.52
Northwest_African: 3.36
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.52
North_European: 1.65
South_Asian 1.47
East_African 0.81
Southwest_Asian: 20.87
East_Asian: 0.35
Caucasian: 41.73
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iranian_Jew
2.69247098 Mandean
5.19354407 Kurdish_Jew
5.51283049 Iraqi_Jew
5.79462682 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.33858817 Azeri_Jew
6.84339097 Assyrian_South
7.11629819 Assyrian_North
7.64423312 Assyrian_West
7.83693818 Turkmen_Iraq
9.30291352 Arab_Iran
10.01986527 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.27072052 Lebanese_Muslim
10.49387440 Syrian_Muslim
10.74404486 Yazidi_Kurd
10.92707189 Iranian_Lur
10.96409139 Kurd_Sorani
11.02999093 Armenian_West
11.04309286 Iraqi_Arab
11.06788146 Dersim
11.15551433 Kurd_Feyli
11.49000000 Nusayri_Turkey
12.08516446 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.12429379 Lebanese_Christian
12.17125712 Turk_Southeast
12.17237446 Turk_East

Target: Iranian_Jew
Distance: 0.9736% / 0.97363445 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.6 Mandean
19.1 Kurd_Feyli
4.0 Saudi
2.3 Algerian

[Sterling Archer]

Return of the king!

[Mesoman]

Iranian Jew:

Gedrosian: 20.70
Siberian: 0.52
Northwest_African: 3.36
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.52
North_European: 1.65
South_Asian 1.47
East_African 0.81
Southwest_Asian: 20.87
East_Asian: 0.35
Caucasian: 41.73
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iranian_Jew
2.69247098 Mandean
5.19354407 Kurdish_Jew
5.51283049 Iraqi_Jew
5.79462682 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.33858817 Azeri_Jew
6.84339097 Assyrian_South
7.11629819 Assyrian_North
7.64423312 Assyrian_West
7.83693818 Turkmen_Iraq
9.30291352 Arab_Iran
10.01986527 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.27072052 Lebanese_Muslim
10.49387440 Syrian_Muslim
10.74404486 Yazidi_Kurd
10.92707189 Iranian_Lur
10.96409139 Kurd_Sorani
11.02999093 Armenian_West
11.04309286 Iraqi_Arab
11.06788146 Dersim
11.15551433 Kurd_Feyli
11.49000000 Nusayri_Turkey
12.08516446 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.12429379 Lebanese_Christian
12.17125712 Turk_Southeast
12.17237446 Turk_East

Target: Iranian_Jew
Distance: 0.9736% / 0.97363445 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.6 Mandean
19.1 Kurd_Feyli
4.0 Saudi
2.3 Algerian

Great. If you have kurdish jewish and iraqi jewish results could you post them as well?

[Dr_Maul]

Looks pure Mesopotamian
Or the closest too it

[Leto]

Academic Andians form SW Dagestan
Something is strange with these samples. Half of them do not look Avar at all.

[Lucas]

In K36 few of them look Eastern Georgian indeed. But in dataset there aren't any Georgians. I will check rest and then deicde what to do with them.

[Leto]

In K36 few of them look Eastern Georgian indeed. But in dataset there aren't any Georgians. I will check rest and then deicde what to do with them.
Please make sure to add Mountain_Jew_Dagestan and the other thing from my message ;)

[Mesoman]

Georgian Jewish average consisting of 2 individuals on dodecad k12 b if anyone is interested.

Gedrosia 16.92 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.4 Pct
North_European 5.13 Pct
South_Asian 0.71 Pct
East_African 0.22 pct
Southwest_Asian 17.79 Pct
East_Asian 0.35 Pct
Caucasus 49.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: Georgian_jew_average
4.58333394 Assyrian_North
4.62404044 Azeri_Jew
4.69480032 Armenian_West
4.83639845 Assyrian_West
4.94013664 Assyrian_South
5.09956371 Armenian_East
7.30335882 Kurdish_Jew
7.74073963 Turk_East
8.25192402 Iraqi_Jew
8.52654971 Mandean
9.01960919 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.01988082 Greek_Pontus
9.13640246 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.07354208 Turk_Ahiska
10.20476604 Hemshin
10.69245762 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
11.41779532 Nusayri_Turkey
11.45750191 Laz
12.40700407 Greek_Cappadocia
12.40861999 Lebanese_Christian
12.42634902 Dersim
12.47496092 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.54931671 Turkmen_Iraq
12.77163850 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.95339917 Azerbaijani_Turkey


Distance to: Georgian_jew_average
2.05286879 32.20% Abkhazian + 67.80% Iraqi_Jew
2.05679010 29.40% Abkhazian + 70.60% Kurdish_Jew
2.24980355 80.80% Turk_Ahiska + 19.20% Yemenite_Mahra
2.25038541 19.40% Saudi + 80.60% Turk_Ahiska
2.31492092 29.00% Georgian_West + 71.00% Kurdish_Jew
2.33080071 17.00% Kuwait2 + 83.00% Turk_Ahiska
2.34244313 22.20% Bedouin + 77.80% Turk_Ahiska
2.41856083 58.60% Kurdish_Jew + 41.40% Turk_Ahiska
2.41975457 31.60% Georgian_West + 68.40% Iraqi_Jew
2.48957671 20.20% Abkhazian + 79.80% Assyrian_South
2.52827823 55.40% Iraqi_Jew + 44.60% Turk_Ahiska
2.54310052 64.60% Hemshin + 35.40% Iraqi_Arab
2.55588316 19.60% Abkhazian + 80.40% Assyrian_West
2.60932777 39.60% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 60.40% Kurdish_Jew
2.66087442 43.00% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 57.00% Iraqi_Jew
2.66679367 38.40% Iraqi_Arab + 61.60% Laz
2.67011223 18.20% Abkhazian + 81.80% Assyrian_North
2.72536316 90.40% Armenian_East + 9.60% Saudi
2.74791649 80.60% Assyrian_South + 19.40% Georgian_West
2.76799566 91.80% Armenian_East + 8.20% Kuwait2
2.83009366 18.00% Abkhazian + 82.00% Azeri_Jew
2.84105506 81.20% Assyrian_West + 18.80% Georgian_West
2.86017445 61.40% Armenian_East + 38.60% Kurdish_Jew
2.86020420 21.20% Kuwait1 + 78.80% Turk_Ahiska
2.86277750 83.00% Assyrian_West + 17.00% Ossetian_South


Target: Georgian_jew_average
Distance: 0.4928% / 0.49278847
17.8 Iraqi_Jew
17.3 Georgian_West
16.1 Hemshin
14.0 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
9.7 Kuwait2
7.4 Mandean
7.3 Turk_Ahiska
7.2 Assyrian_North
1.8 Greek_Fournoi
0.6 Armenian_East
0.3 Greek_Pontus
0.3 Saudi
0.2 Russian_Smolensk

[Leto]

I guess Bukharan Jews should be almost the same as Persian/Kurdish ones.

[Mesoman]

I guess Bukharan Jews should be almost the same as Persian/Kurdish ones.

No they are not. Neither are Iranian and Kurdish jews the same.

[Leto]

No they are not. Neither are Iranian and Kurdish jews the same.
They are all of the same origin - Babylonian/Persian Jews. Kurdish is not even an accurate title because no Jews ever spoke Kurdish.

[Lucas]

They are all of the same origin - Babylonian/Persian Jews. Kurdish is not even an accurate title because no Jews ever spoke Kurdish.

BTW Kurdish Jews are Jews from what area? Northern Iraq, eastern Anatolia, NW Iran????

[Leto]

BTW Kurdish Jews are Jews from what area? Northern Iraq, eastern Anatolia, NW Iran????
I think so. They're all in Israel now of course.

[Mesoman]

They are all of the same origin - Babylonian/Persian Jews. Kurdish is not even an accurate title because no Jews ever spoke Kurdish.

Kurdish Jews are a subgroup of Mizrahi Jews who have lived in the modern day Kurdistan region of Iraq for thousands of years. Persian (Iranian) Jews differ from ancient Babylonian Jews, therefore they aren't identical and interchangeable. All mizrahi jews have a common babylonian Jewish ancestry, but all of them attained different admixtures in different quantities.

[FinalFlash]

I guess Bukharan Jews should be almost the same as Persian/Kurdish ones.


Then you would be surprised.



Target: Bukharian_Jew
Distance: 1.2296% / 0.01229590
57.2 Mountain_Jew
34.2 Kurdish
6.4 Uzbek
2.2 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia


Distance to: Bukharian_Jew
0.02165288 Ezid
0.02435940 Kurdish
0.02503119 Dersim
0.02900261 Iranian_Lor
0.03026735 Iranian_Persian_North
0.03036875 Turkish_East
0.03075104 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.03107134 Mountain_Jew
0.03177283 Georgian_Jew
0.03190118 Azerbaijani
0.03398427 Iranian_Persian_Central
0.03422581 Assyrian
0.03540616 Iranian_Jew
0.03565115 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.03629327 Iranian_Persian_South
0.03662130 Iranian_Fars
0.03698773 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.03776935 Turkish_Adana
0.03795427 Turkish_Kayseri
0.03866132 Iranian_Azeri
0.03875499 Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
0.03983127 Udi
0.04434485 Armenian
0.04563882 Armenian_Erzurum
0.04772168 Turkish_Central
0.04874784 Syrian
0.04902223 Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
0.04906232 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.04912445 Iraqi
0.05206946 Iraqi_Jew
0.05417825 Lebanese_Muslim
0.05555641 Lebanese_Druze
0.05581204 Druze
0.05615150 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.05842914 Turkish_Trabzon
0.05865512 Greek_Cappadocia
0.06047072 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.06079572 Georgian_Kakh
0.06200781 Greek_Trabzon
0.06240054 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06382970 Karaite_Egypt
0.06416957 Georgian_Kart
0.06417511 Syrian_Jew
0.06545284 Ahiska
0.06645118 Turkish_North
0.06781924 Lebanese_Christian
0.06865980 Cypriot
0.07013752 Turkish_South
0.07026353 Georgian_Laz
0.07120119 Kumyk


They've either absorbed lots of Iranian-like admixture or they're simply converts for the most parts. Look at that Uzbek score too.

[FinalFlash]

Kurdish Jews are a subgroup of Mizrahi Jews who have lived in the modern day Kurdistan region of Iraq for thousands of years. Persian (Iranian) Jews differ from ancient Babylonian Jews, therefore they aren't identical and interchangeable. All mizrahi jews have a common babylonian Jewish ancestry, but all of them attained different admixtures in different quantities.

Very true. Caucasus Jews have clearly absorbed more CHG-rich populations over time. Bukharians seem to be almost like Iranian converts or something along those lines. Iranian Jews w/ Iranian admixture etc. I think only Iraqi Jews seems to have retained most of their ancient Babylonian/Mesopotamian profile but then again, we have yet to excavate any ancient Mesopotamian samples so I'm only speculating.

[FinalFlash]

Kurdish Jews are a subgroup of Mizrahi Jews who have lived in the modern day Kurdistan region of Iraq for thousands of years. Persian (Iranian) Jews differ from ancient Babylonian Jews, therefore they aren't identical and interchangeable. All mizrahi jews have a common babylonian Jewish ancestry, but all of them attained different admixtures in different quantities.

Very true. Caucasus Jews have clearly absorbed more CHG-rich populations over time. Bukharians seem to be almost like Iranian converts or something along those lines. Iranian Jews w/ Iranian admixture etc. I think only Iraqi Jews seems to have retained most of their ancient Babylonian/Mesopotamian profile but then again, we have yet to excavate any ancient Mesopotamian samples so I'm only speculating.

[Leto]

That's not Gedmatch though. We don't know if all the samples making up that average are unmixed.

[Leto]

I think only Iraqi Jews seems to have retained most of their ancient Babylonian/Mesopotamian profile but then again, we have yet to excavate any ancient Mesopotamian samples so I'm only speculating.
The purest Middle Eastern Jews.

[FinalFlash]

That's not Gedmatch though. We don't know if all the samples making up that average are unmixed.

That could be true for a lot of these references though.

[FinalFlash]

The purest Middle Eastern Jews.

They are certainly the most Levant-shifted. Almost equidistant to Assyrians and Northern Levantines.

[Mesoman]

Dodecad k12b west&central asian results vol 5. Would be a good addition to the forum.

[Mesoman]

[QUOTE=FinalFlash;7315108. Bukharians seem to be almost like Iranian converts or something along those lines.[/QUOTE]

Target: Uzbekistan_Jews
Distance: 0.1819% / 0.18185483
21.1 Maykop_Novosvobodnaya
14.3 İkiztepe_LC
12.7 Ebla_EMBA
9.0 Levant_BA
8.2 Seh_Gabi_Iran_LN
8.0 Arslantepe_LC
7.2 Ashkelon_LBA
5.2 Ganj_Dareh_Iran_recent_1430-1485_AD
2.9 Ganj_Dareh_Iran_N
2.6 Eastern_Scythian
2.5 Seh_Gabi_Iran_ChL
2.3 Alalakh_MLBA_o
1.1 Beaker_Central_Europe
0.9 Yamnaya
0.8 Armenia_LBA
0.6 Alalakh_MLBA
0.5 I6626
0.1 Udosolovo_Ingria_Russia_IA

They don't seem to be almost Iranian converts. They have additional Iranian admixture, but they are too close to Assyrians, other Mizrahi Jews and Armenians to be mostly Iranian Genetically.

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani (turkish speaking) from Sheki
https://i.imgur.com/fUgMTj0.png

Gedrosian: 19.60
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.80
Atlantic_Med: 8.57
North_European: 10.33
South_Asian 0.86
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.82
East_Asian: 1.11
Caucasian: 48.38
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azeri_Sheki
3.92782382 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.81734367 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
5.39505329 Turk_Ahiska
5.48285510 Turk_East
6.81969941 Armenian_East
9.46105702 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.53186236 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.78147228 Adyghe
9.82007128 Dersim
9.82609281 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.13312390 Abkhazian
10.18609837 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.49902376 Armenian_West
10.55454405 Hemshin
10.64911264 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.65324364 Ossetian_South
10.72858332 Ossetian
10.91939101 Laz
11.10134226 Turk_Central_East
11.31084877 Greek_Pontus
11.32472958 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.43663849 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.85271277 Ingush
12.04706603 Circassian
12.19351057 Turk_Southeast

Target: Azeri_Sheki
Distance: 1.4019% / 1.40187392 | ADC: 0.5x RC
33.7 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
25.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
24.0 Turk_East
16.7 Adyghe

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani (turkish speaking) from Sheki


Gedrosian: 19.60
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.80
Atlantic_Med: 8.57
North_European: 10.33
South_Asian 0.86
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.82
East_Asian: 1.11
Caucasian: 48.38
SSA: 0.00

Fascinating! I think this is record Caucasus for Azerbaijanis and even higher than the Udi average.
It is worth noting that the person is partially from Ağvanlar quarter of Sheki. In some (I think Armenian) sources the Caucasian Albanian state is called Aghvan. Don't know if there is a relationship.

[Sterling Archer]

No they are not. Neither are Iranian and Kurdish jews the same.

Kurdish Jews from Erbil circa 1940s.

https://i.imgur.com/zcEWd3z.jpg

[Kyp]

Three Azerbaijanis from Tabriz (Iran):

Gedrosian: 22.74
Siberian: 3.74
Northwest_African: 1.44
Southeast_Asian: 0.45
Atlantic_Med: 8.42
North_European: 8.01
South_Asian 3.86
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.22
East_Asian: 4.31
Caucasian: 35.62
SSA: 0.15


Gedrosian: 21.83
Siberian: 3.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.76
North_European: 9.02
South_Asian 1.03
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.69
East_Asian: 4.66
Caucasian: 41.92
SSA: 0.09


Gedrosian: 21.95
Siberian: 1.84
Northwest_African: 0.32
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.81
North_European: 9.03
South_Asian 2.65
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.41
East_Asian: 5.77
Caucasian: 37.21
SSA: 0.00

[Mesoman]

Western Armenians.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 49.35
2 Gedrosia 16.59
3 Southwest_Asian 16.07
4 Atlantic_Med 11.68
5 North_European 5.9
6 Southeast_Asian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 5.81
2 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 6.37
3 Assyrian (Dodecad) 6.4
4 Armenian (Dodecad) 6.77
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 6.9
6 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 7.15
7 Turks (Behar) 8.3
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.96
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.7
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.34
11 Druze (HGDP) 11.17
12 Armenians (Behar) 11.18
13 Lebanese (Behar) 12.63
14 Cypriots (Behar) 13.17
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.51
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.97
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 15.83
18 Syrians (Behar) 16.29
19 Jordanians (Behar) 18.7
20 Iranians (Behar) 18.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.98
2 85.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.01
3 86% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.09
4 85.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.2
5 85.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.23
6 86% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.24
7 89.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 10.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.47
8 89.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 10.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.49
9 88.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 11.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.72
10 86.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.76
11 88.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.76
12 90.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% German (Dodecad) @ 1.76
13 90.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 9.6% German (Dodecad) @ 1.79
14 86.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 13.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.79
15 91.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.87
16 91.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 8.7% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.87
17 85.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 14.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.88
18 91.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.89
19 91.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.9
20 91.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.92


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 51.13
2 Gedrosia 18.58
3 Southwest_Asian 14.63
4 Atlantic_Med 9.75
5 North_European 4.38
6 South_Asian 1.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 4.5
2 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 4.69
3 Armenian (Dodecad) 4.95
4 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 5.18
5 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.42
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 6.85
7 Turks (Behar) 9.15
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.33
9 Armenians (Behar) 9.33
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.53
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 11.08
12 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.5
13 Druze (HGDP) 13.07
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.99
15 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.51
16 Lebanese (Behar) 15.18
17 Cypriots (Behar) 15.95
18 Iranians (Behar) 17.7
19 Syrians (Behar) 18.59
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.53

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 42% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.53
2 59% Armenian (Dodecad) + 41% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.88
3 79.4% Armenian (Dodecad) + 20.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 1.9
4 92.7% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7.3% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 1.95
5 91.6% Armenian (Dodecad) + 8.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 1.97
6 61.9% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 38.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.97
7 76.1% Armenian (Dodecad) + 23.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.03
8 93% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 2.14
9 75.6% Armenian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.14
10 73.4% Armenian (Dodecad) + 26.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.14
11 92.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 2.15
12 89.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 10.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.24
13 82.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17.3% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.37
14 93.6% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.4% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 2.37
15 93.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.46
16 92.9% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7.1% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.46
17 80.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 19.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.46
18 86% Armenian (Dodecad) + 14% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.46
19 85.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.5
20 93.9% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.1% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.52


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 50.47
2 Southwest_Asian 17.04
3 Gedrosia 16.63
4 Atlantic_Med 11.03
5 North_European 3.88
6 Southeast_Asian 0.51
7 Northwest_African 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 4.08
2 Assyrian (Dodecad) 4.18
3 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 4.24
4 Armenian (Dodecad) 5.7
5 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 6.17
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 6.75
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 7.85
8 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 8.72
9 Turks (Behar) 9.92
10 Druze (HGDP) 10.02
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.77
12 Armenians (Behar) 10.8
13 Lebanese (Behar) 12.49
14 Cypriots (Behar) 13.45
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.14
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.51
17 Syrians (Behar) 16.05
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.47
19 Jordanians (Behar) 18.26
20 Iranians (Behar) 19.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.95
2 90.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.03
3 87.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.05
4 90.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.08
5 91% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 9% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.08
6 90.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.18
7 91% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.25
8 95.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 4.9% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 1.26
9 94.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 5.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.3
10 87.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 12.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.38
11 93.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 6.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.39
12 95% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 5% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 1.47
13 93.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 6.4% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 1.51
14 94.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 5.9% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.56
15 94% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 6% German (Dodecad) @ 1.57
16 94.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 5.8% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 1.59
17 93.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.59
18 90% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 10% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.6
19 85.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.6
20 94.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 5.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.61



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 48.95
2 Gedrosia 19.53
3 Southwest_Asian 15.2
4 Atlantic_Med 9.72
5 North_European 4.96
6 Northwest_African 0.74
7 Siberian 0.48
8 East_African 0.31
9 Southeast_Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 5.08
2 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.46
3 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 5.67
4 Assyrian (Dodecad) 6.04
5 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 6.59
6 Armenian (Dodecad) 7.01
7 Turks (Behar) 8.57
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 8.8
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.28
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.5
11 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 10.65
12 Armenians (Behar) 11.41
13 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.07
14 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.01
15 Druze (HGDP) 13.3
16 Lebanese (Behar) 14.03
17 Iranians (Behar) 16.04
18 Cypriots (Behar) 16.35
19 Syrians (Behar) 17.48
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 29.3% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.03
2 59.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 40.6% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.29
3 93.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.35
4 93.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.38
5 57.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 42.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.41
6 93.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.42
7 93.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
8 92.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 7.6% German (Dodecad) @ 2.49
9 94.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 5.8% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.5
10 93.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.5
11 94.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 5.7% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.53
12 93.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.54
13 91.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.54
14 94.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 5.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.54
15 93.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.55
16 93.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.56
17 94% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.57
18 93.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.58
19 92.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 7.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.59
20 93.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 6.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.62


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 47.51
2 Gedrosia 17.83
3 Southwest_Asian 16.72
4 Atlantic_Med 11.55
5 North_European 5.07
6 Northwest_African 0.99
7 South_Asian 0.26
8 Sub_Saharan 0.04
9 East_African 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 5.16
2 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.21
3 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 6.27
4 Assyrian (Dodecad) 6.36
5 Armenian (Dodecad) 8.24
6 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 8.4
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 8.68
8 Turks (Behar) 8.77
9 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.27
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.79
11 Druze (HGDP) 11.25
12 Lebanese (Behar) 11.6
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.06
14 Armenians (Behar) 12.93
15 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.34
16 Cypriots (Behar) 14
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.36
18 Syrians (Behar) 15.13
19 Iranians (Behar) 16.89
20 Jordanians (Behar) 17.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 0.94
2 90.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 0.96
3 90.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1
4 91.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.6% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.01
5 90.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.6% German (Dodecad) @ 1.04
6 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.04
7 91.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.04
8 91.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.05
9 91% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.05
10 91% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9% English (Dodecad) @ 1.05
11 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.05
12 91.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.07
13 91% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.08
14 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% British (Dodecad) @ 1.13
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.19
16 91.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 8.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.25
17 90.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.31
18 90.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.33
19 91.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 8.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.33
20 91.2% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 8.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.34

[placebo]

Can someone share the result of Terekeme (Karapapak)? I wonder how many mongoloid they carry. According to what I heard, there was a Karapapak population among the Meskhetian Turks.

[Kyp]

Can someone share the result of Terekeme (Karapapak)? I wonder how many mongoloid they carry. According to what I heard, there was a Karapapak population among the Meskhetian Turks.

Sure. I made an average out of 5 Terekeme results I have:

Gedrosian: 20.55
Siberian: 3.04
Northwest_African: 1.17
Southeast_Asian: 1.45
Atlantic_Med: 9.90
North_European: 8.09
South_Asian 2.09
East_African 0.31
Southwest_Asian: 12.27
East_Asian: 3.70
Caucasian: 37.43
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
2.24737625 Azerbaijani_Northwest
3.09381641 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.28070114 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
3.33778370 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.40022058 Turk_Southeast
3.43224416 Azerbaijani_Republic
3.97317254 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
6.20292673 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.36919147 Turk_Central_East
6.39812473 Dersim
6.47520656 Turk_South
6.83783591 Turkmen_Iraq
7.30376615 Azerbaijani_North
7.45913534 Yazidi_Kurd
7.74561166 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.84500478 Turk_Central_West
8.42797722 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.83330629 Kurd_Sorani
8.87943692 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.23046586 Turk_East
9.31285134 Iranian_Central
9.96389482 Iranian_Zoroastrian
10.02225524 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.08719981 Turk_Southwest
10.26567095 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
Distance: 0.6755% / 0.67545107 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.0 Turk_Southeast
3.0 Sardinian
1.8 Turk_Southwest
1.2 Miaozu
0.4 Algerian

without modelling with Azerbaijanis:

Target: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
Distance: 0.6192% / 0.61922801 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.5 Yazidi_Kurd
28.8 Turk_Southeast
25.7 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.6 Turkmen_TM
0.8 Miaozu
0.6 ZHUANG

Target: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
Distance: 1.5745% / 1.57452209 | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.3 Turk_Southeast
21.0 Yazidi_Kurd
10.7 Turkmen_TM

[placebo]

Sure. I made an average out of 5 Terekeme results I have:

Gedrosian: 20.55
Siberian: 3.04
Northwest_African: 1.17
Southeast_Asian: 1.45
Atlantic_Med: 9.90
North_European: 8.09
South_Asian 2.09
East_African 0.31
Southwest_Asian: 12.27
East_Asian: 3.70
Caucasian: 37.43
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
2.24737625 Azerbaijani_Northwest
3.09381641 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.28070114 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
3.33778370 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.40022058 Turk_Southeast
3.43224416 Azerbaijani_Republic
3.97317254 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
6.20292673 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.36919147 Turk_Central_East
6.39812473 Dersim
6.47520656 Turk_South
6.83783591 Turkmen_Iraq
7.30376615 Azerbaijani_North
7.45913534 Yazidi_Kurd
7.74561166 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.84500478 Turk_Central_West
8.42797722 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.83330629 Kurd_Sorani
8.87943692 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.23046586 Turk_East
9.31285134 Iranian_Central
9.96389482 Iranian_Zoroastrian
10.02225524 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.08719981 Turk_Southwest
10.26567095 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
Distance: 0.6755% / 0.67545107 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.0 Turk_Southeast
3.0 Sardinian
1.8 Turk_Southwest
1.2 Miaozu
0.4 Algerian

without modelling with Azerbaijanis:

Target: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
Distance: 0.6192% / 0.61922801 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.5 Yazidi_Kurd
28.8 Turk_Southeast
25.7 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.6 Turkmen_TM
0.8 Miaozu
0.6 ZHUANG

Target: Azerbaijani_Terekeme
Distance: 1.5745% / 1.57452209 | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.3 Turk_Southeast
21.0 Yazidi_Kurd
10.7 Turkmen_TM
Thanks, they’re 6-7% Mongoloid. The somewhat mongoloid-like appearance in my family is perhaps a becauze of Terekeme origin. But if there was such a thing, I think I would know. Anyway, people sometimes tell me I look like an Azeri. xd

[Kyp]

Thanks, they’re 6-7% Mongoloid. The somewhat mongoloid-like appearance in my family is perhaps a becauze of Terekeme origin. But if there was such a thing, I think I would know. Anyway, people sometimes tell me I look like an Azeri. xd

Yes you can pass as Azeri for sure. But you'll only find out if you do a test.
Their average is more like 7-8% Mongoloid. On Dodecad it's 8%. And I can tell you that the individual samples varied from 5.30 to 11%.

[Leto]

Iranian samples from a 2018 study on Siberia (yeah, sounds ridiculous, I know :D)


Iranian:Iranian004,28.82,1.83,1.65,0.03,6.54,9.26, 6.50,1.02,12.25,0.00,32.08,0.00
Iranian:Iranian007,29.89,2.96,2.20,0.00,4.23,11.67 ,5.47,0.00,13.49,0.00,30.09,0.00
Iranian:Iranian01,23.87,2.12,0.56,1.22,6.69,8.87,3 .64,0.00,12.95,0.00,39.17,0.90
Iranian:Iranian015,23.55,2.90,0.00,0.00,2.64,11.07 ,3.74,0.00,14.71,1.21,38.62,1.57
Iranian:Iranian017,27.61,1.22,3.03,0.00,7.32,11.13 ,7.77,0.00,8.46,0.00,33.29,0.17
Iranian:Iranian018,27.93,1.56,1.75,0.00,3.92,6.63, 5.56,0.00,12.68,0.00,39.89,0.08
Iranian:Iranian045,25.48,0.00,2.41,1.36,5.88,12.00 ,5.43,0.00,15.15,0.00,32.00,0.29
Iranian:Iranian046,28.78,0.93,0.36,1.58,6.66,5.71, 4.90,0.00,14.92,0.64,35.53,0.00
Iranian:Iranian051,32.09,0.24,1.09,0.00,5.81,9.44, 9.10,0.08,8.98,1.36,30.80,1.00
Iranian:Iranian052,25.79,0.00,0.82,0.77,7.17,8.32, 6.48,1.63,12.77,0.62,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian059,28.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.25,10.50 ,5.82,0.00,11.53,0.58,39.00,0.00
Iranian:Iranian061,30.55,2.25,0.00,0.18,8.07,8.85, 5.48,0.01,12.89,0.00,31.72,0.00
Iranian:Iranian062,29.82,0.78,0.35,0.00,8.53,6.33, 3.89,0.00,12.20,2.13,35.97,0.00
Iranian:Iranian07,24.43,2.76,0.39,1.89,8.22,7.74,3 .75,0.00,11.39,0.00,37.87,1.55
Iranian:Iranian070,32.47,0.91,0.65,0.00,2.35,5.12, 5.88,0.12,11.91,2.35,37.95,0.29
Iranian:Iranian071,25.94,2.33,0.00,0.59,3.95,9.37, 5.69,0.00,13.11,0.00,39.02,0.00
Iranian:Iranian08,31.11,1.06,0.00,0.19,3.40,8.34,2 .46,0.00,11.87,0.00,41.57,0.00
Iranian:Iranian080,29.61,1.61,0.00,0.00,5.25,8.80, 4.36,0.00,12.88,0.00,37.49,0.00
Iranian:Iranian082,28.65,1.43,0.84,0.00,7.19,7.46, 3.73,1.37,12.93,2.06,34.19,0.16
Iranian:Iranian12,23.50,0.67,2.33,2.57,7.15,5.47,6 .20,2.29,11.45,0.00,38.27,0.10
Iranian:Iranian14,24.63,2.10,5.11,1.09,9.64,3.56,0 .59,0.24,14.04,1.05,37.95,0.00
Iranian:Iranian24,30.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.80,7.52,3 .38,0.45,11.56,1.40,39.30,0.00
Iranian:Iranian26,23.59,0.97,0.80,0.83,8.89,10.36, 2.27,0.86,10.52,3.07,37.82,0.00
Iranian:Iranian27,31.87,0.00,0.00,0.16,5.64,3.85,3 .32,1.60,10.53,0.00,43.03,0.00
Iranian:Iranian31,24.46,3.65,0.00,0.00,8.11,11.27, 4.42,1.50,10.96,0.00,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian39,27.39,1.04,1.46,0.00,6.56,7.85,5 .31,0.69,10.37,0.00,37.12,2.21
Iranian:Iranian52,26.26,4.36,2.81,2.75,6.26,8.65,3 .52,0.00,9.48,2.47,33.00,0.44


Turkmens from the same source. Very diverse. They are going to replace the "Turkmen_TM" average


Turkmen:Turkmen122,17.55,12.97,0.18,1.88,9.47,13.9 6,4.38,1.99,2.84,16.49,18.01,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen123,21.44,9.41,0.53,3.94,6.76,12.41 ,10.14,0.00,5.03,12.78,17.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen124,16.20,18.11,0.00,0.00,4.10,16.6 5,5.56,0.00,5.11,16.96,17.31,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen125,17.62,18.07,0.00,0.00,6.89,13.8 8,3.40,0.00,1.77,20.90,17.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen126,16.81,16.20,0.15,2.55,5.68,17.1 1,2.03,0.56,3.95,15.52,19.19,0.26
Turkmen:Turkmen127,18.92,11.57,0.66,2.66,5.63,16.6 4,6.82,0.00,3.70,13.57,19.85,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen128,19.58,13.05,1.01,1.90,6.06,13.7 9,6.45,1.41,3.69,14.64,18.42,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen129,18.69,15.55,0.00,1.28,6.64,14.5 7,4.46,0.71,1.75,16.07,20.27,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen130,16.54,15.71,0.92,0.00,3.92,16.7 4,6.13,0.00,4.93,17.11,18.01,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen318,20.05,8.56,0.00,0.89,7.53,12.75 ,11.50,0.49,7.37,8.92,21.65,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen320,12.44,20.72,0.00,0.18,4.80,16.5 9,5.28,0.57,0.00,21.75,17.67,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen321,19.97,8.55,0.00,1.49,6.65,12.18 ,4.63,0.00,9.79,9.03,26.65,1.07
Turkmen:Turkmen324,22.21,10.97,0.95,0.11,5.02,13.7 2,5.20,0.37,7.92,13.05,20.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen325,21.74,11.70,1.93,0.00,4.79,10.3 2,4.91,0.00,4.49,16.55,23.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen328,19.52,10.27,2.11,1.66,5.36,13.2 7,6.40,0.00,6.72,9.82,24.87,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen339,27.31,1.89,0.00,1.80,6.83,8.18, 4.81,0.79,8.81,2.40,37.17,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen340,14.48,19.42,0.00,1.79,4.49,17.9 6,0.56,0.92,2.23,18.25,19.90,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen345,22.20,9.68,0.00,1.14,10.74,6.44 ,3.11,0.77,10.32,7.86,26.82,0.91
Turkmen:Turkmen349,19.77,11.46,0.77,1.37,5.03,12.5 9,4.76,0.56,4.37,12.83,26.49,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen350,20.85,8.94,0.33,0.00,8.66,7.84, 6.20,0.68,10.22,9.50,26.78,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen352,12.82,17.99,0.00,1.96,7.29,18.8 2,4.73,1.12,0.78,17.70,16.80,0.00

[Kyp]

Iranian samples from a 2018 study on Siberia (yeah, sounds ridiculous, I know :D)


Iranian:Iranian004,28.82,1.83,1.65,0.03,6.54,9.26, 6.50,1.02,12.25,0.00,32.08,0.00
Iranian:Iranian007,29.89,2.96,2.20,0.00,4.23,11.67 ,5.47,0.00,13.49,0.00,30.09,0.00
Iranian:Iranian01,23.87,2.12,0.56,1.22,6.69,8.87,3 .64,0.00,12.95,0.00,39.17,0.90
Iranian:Iranian015,23.55,2.90,0.00,0.00,2.64,11.07 ,3.74,0.00,14.71,1.21,38.62,1.57
Iranian:Iranian017,27.61,1.22,3.03,0.00,7.32,11.13 ,7.77,0.00,8.46,0.00,33.29,0.17
Iranian:Iranian018,27.93,1.56,1.75,0.00,3.92,6.63, 5.56,0.00,12.68,0.00,39.89,0.08
Iranian:Iranian045,25.48,0.00,2.41,1.36,5.88,12.00 ,5.43,0.00,15.15,0.00,32.00,0.29
Iranian:Iranian046,28.78,0.93,0.36,1.58,6.66,5.71, 4.90,0.00,14.92,0.64,35.53,0.00
Iranian:Iranian051,32.09,0.24,1.09,0.00,5.81,9.44, 9.10,0.08,8.98,1.36,30.80,1.00
Iranian:Iranian052,25.79,0.00,0.82,0.77,7.17,8.32, 6.48,1.63,12.77,0.62,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian059,28.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.25,10.50 ,5.82,0.00,11.53,0.58,39.00,0.00
Iranian:Iranian061,30.55,2.25,0.00,0.18,8.07,8.85, 5.48,0.01,12.89,0.00,31.72,0.00
Iranian:Iranian062,29.82,0.78,0.35,0.00,8.53,6.33, 3.89,0.00,12.20,2.13,35.97,0.00
Iranian:Iranian07,24.43,2.76,0.39,1.89,8.22,7.74,3 .75,0.00,11.39,0.00,37.87,1.55
Iranian:Iranian070,32.47,0.91,0.65,0.00,2.35,5.12, 5.88,0.12,11.91,2.35,37.95,0.29
Iranian:Iranian071,25.94,2.33,0.00,0.59,3.95,9.37, 5.69,0.00,13.11,0.00,39.02,0.00
Iranian:Iranian08,31.11,1.06,0.00,0.19,3.40,8.34,2 .46,0.00,11.87,0.00,41.57,0.00
Iranian:Iranian080,29.61,1.61,0.00,0.00,5.25,8.80, 4.36,0.00,12.88,0.00,37.49,0.00
Iranian:Iranian082,28.65,1.43,0.84,0.00,7.19,7.46, 3.73,1.37,12.93,2.06,34.19,0.16
Iranian:Iranian12,23.50,0.67,2.33,2.57,7.15,5.47,6 .20,2.29,11.45,0.00,38.27,0.10
Iranian:Iranian14,24.63,2.10,5.11,1.09,9.64,3.56,0 .59,0.24,14.04,1.05,37.95,0.00
Iranian:Iranian24,30.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.80,7.52,3 .38,0.45,11.56,1.40,39.30,0.00
Iranian:Iranian26,23.59,0.97,0.80,0.83,8.89,10.36, 2.27,0.86,10.52,3.07,37.82,0.00
Iranian:Iranian27,31.87,0.00,0.00,0.16,5.64,3.85,3 .32,1.60,10.53,0.00,43.03,0.00
Iranian:Iranian31,24.46,3.65,0.00,0.00,8.11,11.27, 4.42,1.50,10.96,0.00,35.63,0.00
Iranian:Iranian39,27.39,1.04,1.46,0.00,6.56,7.85,5 .31,0.69,10.37,0.00,37.12,2.21
Iranian:Iranian52,26.26,4.36,2.81,2.75,6.26,8.65,3 .52,0.00,9.48,2.47,33.00,0.44


Turkmens from the same source. Very diverse. They are going to replace the "Turkmen_TM" average


Turkmen:Turkmen122,17.55,12.97,0.18,1.88,9.47,13.9 6,4.38,1.99,2.84,16.49,18.01,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen123,21.44,9.41,0.53,3.94,6.76,12.41 ,10.14,0.00,5.03,12.78,17.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen124,16.20,18.11,0.00,0.00,4.10,16.6 5,5.56,0.00,5.11,16.96,17.31,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen125,17.62,18.07,0.00,0.00,6.89,13.8 8,3.40,0.00,1.77,20.90,17.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen126,16.81,16.20,0.15,2.55,5.68,17.1 1,2.03,0.56,3.95,15.52,19.19,0.26
Turkmen:Turkmen127,18.92,11.57,0.66,2.66,5.63,16.6 4,6.82,0.00,3.70,13.57,19.85,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen128,19.58,13.05,1.01,1.90,6.06,13.7 9,6.45,1.41,3.69,14.64,18.42,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen129,18.69,15.55,0.00,1.28,6.64,14.5 7,4.46,0.71,1.75,16.07,20.27,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen130,16.54,15.71,0.92,0.00,3.92,16.7 4,6.13,0.00,4.93,17.11,18.01,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen318,20.05,8.56,0.00,0.89,7.53,12.75 ,11.50,0.49,7.37,8.92,21.65,0.28
Turkmen:Turkmen320,12.44,20.72,0.00,0.18,4.80,16.5 9,5.28,0.57,0.00,21.75,17.67,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen321,19.97,8.55,0.00,1.49,6.65,12.18 ,4.63,0.00,9.79,9.03,26.65,1.07
Turkmen:Turkmen324,22.21,10.97,0.95,0.11,5.02,13.7 2,5.20,0.37,7.92,13.05,20.47,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen325,21.74,11.70,1.93,0.00,4.79,10.3 2,4.91,0.00,4.49,16.55,23.56,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen328,19.52,10.27,2.11,1.66,5.36,13.2 7,6.40,0.00,6.72,9.82,24.87,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen339,27.31,1.89,0.00,1.80,6.83,8.18, 4.81,0.79,8.81,2.40,37.17,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen340,14.48,19.42,0.00,1.79,4.49,17.9 6,0.56,0.92,2.23,18.25,19.90,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen345,22.20,9.68,0.00,1.14,10.74,6.44 ,3.11,0.77,10.32,7.86,26.82,0.91
Turkmen:Turkmen349,19.77,11.46,0.77,1.37,5.03,12.5 9,4.76,0.56,4.37,12.83,26.49,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen350,20.85,8.94,0.33,0.00,8.66,7.84, 6.20,0.68,10.22,9.50,26.78,0.00
Turkmen:Turkmen352,12.82,17.99,0.00,1.96,7.29,18.8 2,4.73,1.12,0.78,17.70,16.80,0.00


Nice!

Here the Iranians ordered (added east eurasian score to see if theres some Azeris among them out of personal interest):
https://i.imgur.com/0QWvFA7.jpg

Iranian_Karafet_et_al_2018,27.67,1.47,1.06,0.56,6. 15,8.34,4.77,0.44,12.07,0.70,36.44,0.32

Gedrosian: 27.67
Siberian: 1.47
Northwest_African: 1.06
Southeast_Asian: 0.56
Atlantic_Med: 6.15
North_European: 8.34
South_Asian 4.77
East_African 0.44
Southwest_Asian: 12.07
East_Asian: 0.70
Caucasian: 36.44
SSA: 0.32

Distance to: Iranian_Karafet_et_al_2018
1.44301767 Iranian_Zoroastrian
2.01159141 Iranian_Central
3.83884097 Iranian_Fars
4.52398055 Kurd_Sorani
4.88544778 Yazidi_Kurd
5.05538327 Iranian_Kerman
5.62586882 Kurd_Feyli
5.81864245 Iranian_Lur
6.11196368 Iranian_Khorasan
6.30641737 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.31176679 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.64900744 Dersim
6.99203833 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.12505385 Iranian_Mazandaran
8.14691353 Azerbaijani_Republic
8.28178121 Turkmen_Iraq
9.46220376 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.69108353 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.70469991 Turk_Southeast
12.83470685 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.67945174 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.40159019 Parsi_India
14.60364338 Turk_East
14.92590701 Turk_Central_East
14.94118469 Turkmen_TM

Target: Iranian_Karafet_et_al_2018
Distance: 0.4103% / 0.41033453 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Iranian_Zoroastrian
16.0 Iranian_Central
12.9 Yazidi_Kurd
7.8 Turkmen_TM
6.9 Iranian_Mazandaran
2.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan

[Mejgusu]

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Indeed, very nice, it would be interesting from which regions the samples are from, I would say all with 3+ east eurasian are from NW-Iran/Tehran but also many seem to be from NE-Iran, I guess the sample with 10% is probably from NE-Iran too.

[Kyp]

Indeed, very nice, it would be interesting from which regions the samples are from, I would say all with 3+ east eurasian are from NW-Iran/Tehran but also many seem to be from NE-Iran, I guess the sample with 10% is probably from NE-Iran too.

We did found out. It seems that 16 of the samples are from Kerman in the southeast. And 11 of them are from Teheran.

[Mejgusu]

We did found out. It seems that 16 of the samples are from Kerman in the southeast. And 11 of them are from Teheran.

Oh that makes sense, I thought around 30% Gedrosia is rather NE-Iranian but it is normal for Kerman, Khorasan average is even less. After spending a lot of time here still learning new things here.

[Sterling Archer]

Can someone share the result of Terekeme (Karapapak)? I wonder how many mongoloid they carry. According to what I heard, there was a Karapapak population among the Meskhetian Turks.

Not a numerical result, but here is the video of Azerbaijani (Terekeme) kids from Tatlyar village in Dagesta. That whole area is Terekeme:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0A-MspFwOf/

Their dialect is very heavy. Sounds like a more extreme version of Azerbaijani spoken in Quba-Qusar region.

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani whose maternal grandmother is half Ahiska Turk. The rest of the ancestry is from Shamkir and other regions of the republic.

Gedrosia 20.12
Siberian 3.08
NW_African 0.51
SE_Asian 0.84
Atlantic_Med 7.83
North_European 12.16
South_Asian 2.22
East_African -
SW_Asian 11.21
East_Asian 4.29
Caucasus 37.72
SSA -

Distance to: Azerb_Shamkir
4.32355178 Azerbaijani_Republic
4.76919280 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.83883250 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.84342365 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.88476847 Turk_Southeast
6.75750694 Turk_South
7.40626762 Turk_Central_East
7.85340690 Dersim
8.09730202 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.32025841 Turk_Central_West
8.50272309 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.44739117 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.67309671 Turkmen_Iraq
9.79676477 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.81064728 Turk_Southwest


Distance to: Az_Shamkir
1.56912672 89.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 10.20% Lipka_Tatar
1.57730556 91.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 8.20% Tatar_Kazan
1.58250430 91.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 8.20% Bashkir_North
1.64731647 92.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.20% Chuvash
1.66270018 91.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 8.20% Bashkir_Central
1.67988115 92.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.80% Tatar_Mishar
1.68689503 5.80% Saami_Sweden + 94.20% Azerbaijani_Republic
1.75509855 93.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.60% Komi
1.76781443 93.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.80% Mari
1.78409089 89.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 11.00% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
1.78776919 94.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.80% Veps
1.80781011 93.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.40% Russian_Ural
1.81118748 94.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina
1.81448030 92.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.40% Besermyan_Udmurtia
1.81778699 94.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.40% Finnish_East
1.88010628 94.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.60% Karelian
1.88664716 93.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.60% Mordovian
1.90567356 93.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.20% Russian_Kostroma
1.92418389 93.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.00% Udmurt
1.92743801 94.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.80% North_Russian
1.98928673 93.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.20% Russian
2.01462377 94.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.00% Russian_Tver
2.01808414 94.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.20% Latvian
2.04068474 94.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.40% Finnish_West
2.04390594 94.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 5.40% Estonian

[Zoro]

Iranian samples from a 2018 study on Siberia (yeah, sounds ridiculous, I know :D)]

Which 2018 paper on Siberia?

[Sterling Archer]

Can someone share the result of Terekeme (Karapapak)? I wonder how many mongoloid they carry. According to what I heard, there was a Karapapak population among the Meskhetian Turks.

This is the result of Azerbaijani from Kars, Turkey. Don't know whether this counts as Terekeme or not.

Gedrosia 18.77 Pct
Siberian 3.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.08 Pct
North_European 9.8 Pct
South_Asian 2.81 Pct
East_African 1.24 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.45 Pct
East_Asian 5.86 Pct
Caucasus 37.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Aze_Kars
4.94787833 Turk_South
5.00503746 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.18622213 Turk_Southeast
5.48419547 Turk_Central_East
5.75552778 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.09436625 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.11700090 Turk_Central_West
6.61598821 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.59216702 Turk_Southwest
7.88246154 Turk_West_BlackSea

Distance to: Aze_Kars
2.64663127 28.40% Iranian_Khorasan + 71.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.70052820 9.40% Burusho + 90.60% Turk_Central_East
2.85445211 88.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 11.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.86491148 13.40% Tajik_Kabul + 86.60% Turk_Central_East
2.92195822 89.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 10.40% Lipka_Tatar
2.96433955 16.80% Tajik_Mountain + 83.20% Turk_Central_East
2.96944799 17.00% Tajik_Herat + 83.00% Turk_Central_East
2.96963310 63.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 36.60% Turk_Southwest
2.97232667 76.40% Turk_Central_East + 23.60% Turkmen_TM
2.98606685 27.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 72.40% Turk_Southwest
3.00854677 46.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 53.20% Turkmen_TM
3.02963434 74.80% Turk_East + 25.20% Uzbek
3.03137834 70.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 29.40% Turk_Northwest
3.04599393 24.40% Iranian_Kerman + 75.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.04666341 13.00% Pashtun_Kandahar + 87.00% Turk_Central_East
3.05601971 15.80% Tajik_Lowland + 84.20% Turk_Central_East
3.06473748 12.00% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa + 88.00% Turk_Central_East
3.06772158 12.40% Pamiri_Wakhan + 87.60% Turk_Central_East
3.08502283 13.80% Pashtun_Kandahar + 86.20% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.09147939 39.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 61.00% Turk_Southwest
3.11481465 10.20% Kalash + 89.80% Turk_Central_East
3.11513834 12.60% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa + 87.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.12012011 10.20% Nuristani + 89.80% Turk_Central_East
3.13496180 12.20% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 87.80% Turk_Central_East
3.14930759 91.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 8.20% Nogai_Astrakhan

[Mejgusu]

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Nice results. I heard by some who are from Kars they are Terekeme, many Azerbaijanis describe themselves as Terekkeme. I think the reason why they have just a little bit more east eurasian is that they lived more „homogeneously“, strictly speaking even this is not very true since some are mixed with Kurds for or other locals. It generally seems most Terrekemes are just regular Azerbaijanis. This Terekeme sample with huge Turkic influence seemed to be not a Terekeme if I am not wrong.

[Sterling Archer]

This Terekeme sample with huge Turkic influence seemed to be not a Terekeme if I am not wrong.
I just read the information about him. His paternal side is from Ganja, Azerbaijan and his maternal side is from Shirak, Armenia which used to have large a Azerbaijani population. Shirak is close to the north west Azerbaijan, where people score the highest mongoloid. Maybe that is the reason this person has high east Eurasian ancestry.
So he is fully Azerbaijani, but maybe not Terekeme (then again I'm not sure what exactly is Terekeme).


many Azerbaijanis describe themselves as Terekkeme
This is not the case in the Republic as far as I am aware, but maybe it is in Turkey. Also, as I previously shared, in Dagestan there is a whole are near Derbent that is populated by Azerbaijanis. They call themselves Terekeme.
Interestingly, they are mostly Sunni Muslim, while the Derbent Azerbaijanis are (hardcore :))Shia/

[Mejgusu]

I just read the information about him. His paternal side is from Ganja, Azerbaijan and his maternal side is from Shirak, Armenia which used to have large a Azerbaijani population. Shirak is close to the north west Azerbaijan, where people score the highest mongoloid. Maybe that is the reason this person has high east Eurasian ancestry.
So he is fully Azerbaijani, but maybe not Terekeme (then again I'm not sure what exactly is Terekeme).

That sounds interesting, that would mean this is the most Turkic Azerbaijani sample.

Terekeme comes from Arabic and means Türkmen, basically a subgruop of Azerbaijani people. Not all of them are only of Oghuz but also of Kipchak origin.


This is not the case in the Republic as far as I am aware, but maybe it is in Turkey. Also, as I previously shared, in Dagestan there is a whole are near Derbent that is populated by Azerbaijanis. They call themselves Terekeme.

Yes I meant Azerbaijanis from Turkey, at least those which I met claimed to be Terekeme. There are also some in Daghestan like you said.

[Sterling Archer]

That sounds interesting, that would mean this is the most Turkic Azerbaijani sample.

This Azerbaijani from Shamkir has the highest east Eurasian ancestry as far as I am aware:

Gedrosia 18.03
Siberian 3.1
NW_African 0.79
SE_Asian 0.88
Atlantic_Med 8.89
North_European 10.23
South_Asian 1.2
East_African -
SW_Asian 12.87
East_Asian 8
Caucasus 36.01
SSA -

[Leto]

This Turkmen from the dataset I posted a few days ago is the least Mongoloid, almost purely Iranian

Turkmen:Turkmen339,27.31,1.89,0.00,1.80,6.83,8.18, 4.81,0.79,8.81,2.40,37.17,0.00

Distance to: Turkmen:Turkmen339
4.97335903 Iranian_Central
5.11813443 Iranian_Zoroastrian
6.35544648 Iranian_Khorasan
6.79070689 Iranian_Fars
6.81217293 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.84426767 Yazidi_Kurd
6.93237333 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.15349565 Iranian_Kerman
7.21812995 Kurd_Sorani
7.61287725 Dersim

Distance to: Turkmen:Turkmen339
2.85606272 69.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 31.00% Turk_Northwest
2.93372688 18.80% Georgian_West + 81.20% Iranian_Khorasan
2.93870386 76.60% Iranian_Khorasan + 23.40% Turk_Ahiska
2.94734553 80.80% Iranian_Khorasan + 19.20% Laz
2.95415867 24.40% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 75.60% Iranian_Khorasan
2.96319809 17.40% Pamiri_Wakhan + 82.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.97081420 23.20% Burusho + 76.80% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.99523167 19.40% Tajik_Kabul + 80.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.06060993 25.80% Tajik_Herat + 74.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.07537350 52.20% Iranian_Khorasan + 47.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan

Target: Turkmen:Turkmen339
Distance: 1.3237% / 1.32367785 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.9 Iranian_Mazandaran
27.9 Iranian_Khorasan
12.9 Ingush
9.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.6 Sardinian
2.1 Lahu

His G25 results (my CA Steppe model)

Target: Turkmen:Turkmen339
Distance: 1.7449% / 0.01744914
43.8 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
27.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
17.0 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
6.2 CHN_Yellow_River_LN
4.4 Levant_Megiddo_MLBA
0.8 MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave

[Kyp]

I just read the information about him. His paternal side is from Ganja, Azerbaijan and his maternal side is from Shirak, Armenia which used to have large a Azerbaijani population. Shirak is close to the north west Azerbaijan, where people score the highest mongoloid. Maybe that is the reason this person has high east Eurasian ancestry.
So he is fully Azerbaijani, but maybe not Terekeme (then again I'm not sure what exactly is Terekeme).


This is not the case in the Republic as far as I am aware, but maybe it is in Turkey. Also, as I previously shared, in Dagestan there is a whole are near Derbent that is populated by Azerbaijanis. They call themselves Terekeme.
Interestingly, they are mostly Sunni Muslim, while the Derbent Azerbaijanis are (hardcore :))Shia/

Terekeme is just an umbrella term to describe Nomadic turkic speakers. As Gecko said its just the arab version of "turkmen". Often this term gets wrongly used as a synonym for the Qarapapaq (which is a militaristic confederation of multiple tribes, similar to the Shahsevan or the Qashqai in Iran"). Maybe it was a regional term thats why it now gets mixed up with the Qarapapaq because many of the "terekeme" are Qarapapaq.

In general they score like regular Azerbaijanis. Maybe their turkic input on average is at the higher end because this whole region (independent of tribe) is more turkic in general because they were surrounded by Christians.

What's interesting is that most of those who call themselves Terekeme are Sunni muslim, while the majority of the Qarapapaqs are Shia.


That sounds interesting, that would mean this is the most Turkic Azerbaijani sample.

Terekeme comes from Arabic and means Türkmen, basically a subgruop of Azerbaijani people. Not all of them are only of Oghuz but also of Kipchak origin.



Yes I meant Azerbaijanis from Turkey, at least those which I met claimed to be Terekeme. There are also some in Daghestan like you said.

Yup


This Turkmen from the dataset I posted a few days ago is the least Mongoloid, almost purely Iranian

Turkmen:Turkmen339,27.31,1.89,0.00,1.80,6.83,8.18, 4.81,0.79,8.81,2.40,37.17,0.00

Distance to: Turkmen:Turkmen339
4.97335903 Iranian_Central
5.11813443 Iranian_Zoroastrian
6.35544648 Iranian_Khorasan
6.79070689 Iranian_Fars
6.81217293 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.84426767 Yazidi_Kurd
6.93237333 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.15349565 Iranian_Kerman
7.21812995 Kurd_Sorani
7.61287725 Dersim

Distance to: Turkmen:Turkmen339
2.85606272 69.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 31.00% Turk_Northwest
2.93372688 18.80% Georgian_West + 81.20% Iranian_Khorasan
2.93870386 76.60% Iranian_Khorasan + 23.40% Turk_Ahiska
2.94734553 80.80% Iranian_Khorasan + 19.20% Laz
2.95415867 24.40% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 75.60% Iranian_Khorasan
2.96319809 17.40% Pamiri_Wakhan + 82.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.97081420 23.20% Burusho + 76.80% Udi_Azerbaijan
2.99523167 19.40% Tajik_Kabul + 80.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.06060993 25.80% Tajik_Herat + 74.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.07537350 52.20% Iranian_Khorasan + 47.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan

Target: Turkmen:Turkmen339
Distance: 1.3237% / 1.32367785 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.9 Iranian_Mazandaran
27.9 Iranian_Khorasan
12.9 Ingush
9.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.6 Sardinian
2.1 Lahu

His G25 results (my CA Steppe model)

Target: Turkmen:Turkmen339
Distance: 1.7449% / 0.01744914
43.8 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
27.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
17.0 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
6.2 CHN_Yellow_River_LN
4.4 Levant_Megiddo_MLBA
0.8 MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave

Yes. Although this result is a clear outlier. The remaining results scored higher East Eurasian than previous Turkmenistan averages made us believe.

[Kyp]

Iranian result 50% from West Azerbaijani province 50% From Eastern Zanjan/Western Qazvin (azeri/persian mix):


Gedrosian: 25.06
Siberian: 4.06
Northwest_African: 0.40
Southeast_Asian: 0.87
Atlantic_Med: 6.00
North_European: 7.38
South_Asian 4.70
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.30
East_Asian: 2.78
Caucasian: 37.36
SSA: 0.32

Distance to: Urmzqazvin
4.45893485 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.86762776 Iranian_Central
5.88944819 Iranian_Zoroastrian
5.94934450 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.97703940 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.04780125 Kurd_Sorani
6.04804927 Yazidi_Kurd
6.22106904 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.23411582 Iranian_Fars
6.48803514 Dersim
6.83493233 Kurd_Feyli
6.87106251 Iranian_Lur
6.97360739 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.34092637 Turkmen_Iraq
7.49323695 Iranian_Khorasan
8.26387318 Iranian_Kerman
8.89460511 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.41289010 Turk_Southeast
10.32628684 Iranian_Mazandaran
11.86213303 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.06177848 Turk_South
12.27876215 Turk_Central_East
12.72581235 Turk_East
13.05498755 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.08502579 Iraqi_Baghdad

Target: Urmzqazvin
Distance: 1.5545% / 1.55446843 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
24.3 Iranian_Mazandaran
16.1 Turkmen_TM
1.4 Iranian_Central


Azerbaijani from Zangilan (Southern Karabakh bordering Iran):

Gedrosian: 20-80
Siberian: 3.02
Northwest_African: 1.49
Southeast_Asian: 0.79
Atlantic_Med: 7.31
North_European: 9.76
South_Asian 0.79
East_African 0.61
Southwest_Asian: 13.77
East_Asian: 3.35
Caucasian: 38.31
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azeri_Zangilan
3.22891623 Azerbaijani_Republic
3.42804609 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.46931762 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.94512892 Turk_Southeast
5.92401891 Dersim
6.05391609 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.72065473 Turkmen_Iraq
7.54321549 Yazidi_Kurd
7.77045687 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.78066835 Turk_Central_East
7.79086645 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.82501757 Turk_South
8.18170520 Kurd_Sorani
9.07049613 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.36565000 Iranian_Central
9.37992004 Turk_East
9.43127245 Turk_Central_West
9.49789450 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.58066804 Iranian_Zoroastrian
9.76691865 Kurd_Feyli
10.26165191 Iranian_Lur
10.35806449 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.48407364 Iranian_Fars
11.63819574 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.65223584 Turk_Southwest

Target: Azeri_Zangilan
Distance: 1.3710% / 1.37103951 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.9 Azerbaijani_Republic
24.5 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.9 Saudi
1.9 Kyrgyz_Pamir
1.3 Nogai
0.5 Lezgin

[Leto]

Yes. Although this result is a clear outlier. The remaining results scored higher East Eurasian than previous Turkmenistan averages made us believe.
Well, the previous TM average has always looked a bit unrealistic to me. I don't think Turkmenistanis are 15-17% East Eurasian on average. 25-30% would look a lot more realistic IMO.

[Kyp]

Well, the previous TM average has always looked a bit unrealistic to me. I don't think Turkmenistanis are 15-17% East Eurasian on average. 25-30% would look a lot more realistic IMO.

Agree

[Babak]

God i love these macho results.

[Sterling Archer]

Terekeme is just an umbrella term to describe Nomadic turkic speakers. As Gecko said its just the arab version of "turkmen". Often this term gets wrongly used as a synonym for the Qarapapaq (which is a militaristic confederation of multiple tribes, similar to the Shahsevan or the Qashqai in Iran"). Maybe it was a regional term thats why it now gets mixed up with the Qarapapaq because many of the "terekeme" are Qarapapaq.

I understand. My question was mostly rhetorical, because I am not a proponent of treating Terekeme as some separate sub-ethnos. It was mostly used for nomadic groups as opposed to settled ones.
If I am not mistaken, Terekeme in Dagestan were moved there by Kaitag Utsmi from present day Shemakha, Azerbaijan. The reason they are Sunni is maybe due to this nomadic way of life, or some other obscure reason.

Here are some photos of them (that are still nomadic) from the republic :
https://www.photoawards.com/winner/zoom.php?eid=8-164136-18

These photos, taken in Gobustan in 1940-1950s , are of the nomadic Elat (don't know anything about them) tribe/people. Very unique looking people. First women looks almost Saami:

https://i.imgur.com/k9Nr9l1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xzrWIBo.jpg

[Leto]

Some Dags look really archaic. This is a Lak from Dagestan. A fucking huge percentage of European admixture!

Gedrosia 28.61 Pct
Siberian 2.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.42 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.81 Pct
North_European 30.75 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.94 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Lakia is the two districts in Dagestan
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%86%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%B0 %D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5.svg/326px-%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%86%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%B0 %D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5.svg.png

[Babak]

Some Dags look really archaic. This is a Lak from Dagestan. A fucking huge percentage of European admixture!

Gedrosia 28.61 Pct
Siberian 2.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.42 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.81 Pct
North_European 30.75 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.94 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Lakia is the two districts in Dagestan
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%86%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%B0 %D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5.svg/326px-%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%86%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%B0 %D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5.svg.png

Damn. Thats the highest ive seen so far that region. Good work leto

[Sterling Archer]

Some Dags look really archaic. This is a Lak from Dagestan. A fucking huge percentage of European admixture!

Gedrosia 28.61 Pct
Siberian 2.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.42 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.81 Pct
North_European 30.75 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.94 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

If you didn't tell me that this person was a Lak, I'd have assumed that he was Avar or Dagin. They usually score this type of extreme results. Do you know which part of Lak are this person is from?
Afaik, they have some territorial overlap with Dargins.

[berkbirkan]

Anatolian Turk Results (Mother : Konya(Zanapa/Halkapınar) - Father: Erzincan(Kemaliye/Eğin) )
Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 44.58
2 Gedrosia 14.44
3 Southwest_Asian 12.79
4 North_European 10.90
5 Atlantic_Med 8.93
6 Siberian 3.48
7 East_Asian 3.43

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks_Behar @ 3.783448
2 Turkish_Dodecad @ 5.590762
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 11.520256
4 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 13.421023
5 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 14.752159
6 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 14.864959
7 Armenian_Dodecad @ 14.937774
8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 14.963937
9 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 15.335756
10 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 15.525150
11 Lebanese_Behar @ 15.695557
12 Kurd_Dodecad @ 16.404482
13 Iranian_Dodecad @ 16.726807
14 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 16.826063
15 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 17.395044
16 Druze_HGDP @ 17.480959
17 Armenians_Behar @ 17.549232
18 Cypriots_Behar @ 18.014870
19 Syrians_Behar @ 19.536455
20 Iranians_Behar @ 20.467676

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kumyks_Yunusbayev +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 3.776161


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_HGDP +25% Lezgins_Behar +25% Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.509100


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++
1 Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 1.859823
2 Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.886703
3 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.906610
4 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.918254
5 Armenians_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.033060
6 Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turks_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.061234
7 Armenian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.069826
8 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.098297
9 Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.115668
10 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Lebanese_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.131093
11 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.153185
12 Druze_HGDP + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.163607
13 Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Lebanese_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.177037
14 Druze_HGDP + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.192333
15 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.199623
16 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Lebanese_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.217946
17 Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Lebanese_Behar + Turks_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.228887
18 Armenian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.231981
19 Druze_HGDP + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.258470
20 Armenian_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.260561

[Leto]

Anatolian Turk Results (Mother : Konya(Zanapa/Halkapınar) - Father: Erzincan(Kemaliye/Eğin) )
Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 44.58
2 Gedrosia 14.44
3 Southwest_Asian 12.79
4 North_European 10.90
5 Atlantic_Med 8.93
6 Siberian 3.48
7 East_Asian 3.43

This result doesn't add up to 100%, something is missing but here's the model:

Target: Berkbirkan
Distance: 1.1138% / 1.11376267 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.9 Circassian
27.1 Turk_East_Black_Sea
25.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.8 Kuwait2

You seem to be heavily Caucasian (Circassians and East Black Sea Turks are Caucasians).

[berkbirkan]

This result doesn't add up to 100%, something is missing but here's the model:

Target: Berkbirkan
Distance: 1.1138% / 1.11376267 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.9 Circassian
27.1 Turk_East_Black_Sea
25.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.8 Kuwait2

You seem to be heavily Caucasian (Circassians and East Black Sea Turks are Caucasians).

sorry, i am new to gedmatch. this is Admixture (heritage)/ Dodecad K12b result , did i something wrong ? i think my mother's ancestors is from Afshar origin from Azerbaijan or iran. some gedmatch calculator results show that i close to Azerbaijan_Azeri or Iran_Azeri.

my kit number is WX5068363. I would be very happy if you could do a detailed review. I think it will be beneficial for me as well as for the community. thank you :)

[Leto]

sorry, i am new to gedmatch. this is Admixture (heritage)/ Dodecad K12b result , did i something wrong ? i think my mother's ancestors is from Afshar origin from Azerbaijan or iran. some gedmatch calculator results show that i close to Azerbaijan_Azeri or Iran_Azeri.

my kit number is WX5068363. I would be very happy if you could do a detailed review. I think it will be beneficial for me as well as for the community. thank you :)
No problem. It's essentially the same when I re-run it.

Gedrosia 14.44 Pct
Siberian 3.48 Pct
Northwest_African 0.3 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.93 Pct
North_European 10.9 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_African 0.31 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.79 Pct
East_Asian 3.43 Pct
Caucasus 44.58 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.24 Pct

Distance to: Berkbirkan
6.10741353 Turk_Central_East
6.13126414 Turk_East
7.06440373 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.14369081 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.22375826 Turk_South
8.26342544 Turk_Southeast
8.60347604 Turk_Central_West
8.65080921 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.12697102 Azerbaijani_Republic
9.16484588 Armenian_East

Target: Berkbirkan
Distance: 0.6553% / 0.65526661 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 Circassian
26.9 Turk_East_Black_Sea
25.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.9 Kuwait2

Target: Berkbirkan
Distance: 1.5185% / 1.51846100 | ADC: 0.5x RC
36.8 Circassian
30.0 Armenian_East
23.9 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.3 Yemenite_Mahra

Don't take these things literally (Circassian, Armenian, Arab). That just means you're more Eastern than the Western Turkish populations. And also more Southern to some extent (see the Kuwait/Yemeni thing). Like I said, you seem to be heavily Caucasian. But I think your East Eurasian/Mongoloid is totally normal for Central-Eastern Turkey if that's where you're from. Iran/Azerbaijan doesn't appear here though.

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani whose grandmother is Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar mix from Kerch.

Gedrosia 18.81 Pct
Siberian 2.37 Pct
Northwest_African 0.47 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.5 Pct
North_European 16.81 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.17 Pct
East_Asian 1.85 Pct
Caucasus 35.01 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Az_ukr
8.11916868 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.72395552 Turk_Central_West
8.97031215 Turk_Northwest
9.05592072 Turk_Southwest
9.55811697 Turk_South
10.07879953 Turk_Southeast
10.16027067 Turk_Central_East
10.19583739 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.59601812 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.16986123 Azerbaijani_Republic
11.25816593 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.26838941 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.77637890 Kumyk
11.88305516 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.33010949 Kabardin


Distance to: Az_ukr
2.49377275 61.00% Dersim + 39.00% Turk_Deliorman
2.56835051 79.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 20.80% Slovenian
2.63536429 78.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 21.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
2.64426960 75.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 24.60% Serb
2.64676642 76.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 23.20% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
2.65401583 60.00% Kurd_Kurmanji + 40.00% Turk_Deliorman
2.65553121 77.60% Azerbaijani_Republic + 22.40% Croat_South
2.66512236 78.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 21.20% Hungarian
2.68121302 78.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 21.60% Croat
2.70255202 79.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 20.80% Hungarian_Alföld
2.71642889 81.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 18.60% German
2.71956670 73.60% Dersim + 26.40% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
2.73382158 73.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 26.20% Montenegrin
2.74058603 57.40% Dersim + 42.60% Turk_Trakya
2.75245583 80.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 19.20% Czech

[Kyp]

Native of Qeshm Island in Iran (lives in UAE now tho):

https://d3i71xaburhd42.cloudfront.net/63e44df8174d2e24f524e8cb280ad9dfc39f65b8/2-Figure1-1.png


Gedrosian: 33.15
Siberian: 1.25
Northwest_African: 0.77
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.24
North_European: 4.56
South_Asian 10.67
East_African 0.20
Southwest_Asian: 13.30
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 26.91
SSA: 3.85

Distance to: Qeshm_Island
5.72942405 Iranian_Bandari
8.16374301 Parsi_India
9.27568865 Iranian_Kerman
11.05090042 Iranian_Khorasan
11.60740281 Iranian_Fars
12.57987679 Balochi
12.58903888 Tajik_Herat
13.27798931 Iranian_Central
13.66537961 Iranian_Zoroastrian
15.40812124 Iranian_Mazandaran
15.63228390 Iranian_Lur
16.11758977 Kurd_Sorani
16.46249374 Kurd_Feyli
16.65354917 Yazidi_Kurd
17.74261537 Pashtun_Kandahar
18.22933350 Turkmen_Iraq
18.57510969 Kurd_Kurmanji
18.82239092 Tajik_Kabul
19.09317417 Azerbaijani_Iran
19.14429419 Talysh_Azerbaijan
19.26126943 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
19.53348919 Dersim
20.66142541 Azerbaijani_Republic
20.93136403 Arab_Iran
21.48918100 Iraqi_Baghdad


Target: Qeshm_Island
Distance: 0.5709% / 0.57085551
56.6 Balochi
28.5 Assyrian_North
5.2 Meena
3.2 Iranian_Mazandaran
2.2 Yoruba
1.3 Nuristani
1.3 Sardinian
1.1 Kuwait2
0.6 Nganasan

[Sterling Archer]

He/she is considered ethnic Persian, right? Do you have any information on Y/mtdna?

[Aren]

BTW Kurdish Jews are Jews from what area? Northern Iraq, eastern Anatolia, NW Iran????

Yep. This was their traditional home before the 1950 expulsion. The purple settlements(Southeast Trans-Zab) are somewhat recent, like from the 1700s.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41325&d=1606035788

I've heard from people knowledgeable within the linguistic community that the vernaculars of Georgian and Azeri/Mountain Jews have a lot of Aramaic loans indicating that they were speakers of Neo-Aramaic just like the so called Kurdish Jews and shifted gradually to Judeo-Tat and Georgian. That they can be modelled better with Kurdish Jews rather than Iranian/Persian Jews is not surprising with that in mind.

I created an Iranian Jewish average last year, why is it not in the updated spreadsheet?

[Dr_Maul]

He/she is considered ethnic Persian, right? Do you have any information on Y/mtdna?

Probably not, although im fairly certain all Bandaris can speak farsi, they do speak Balochi and Arabic as well which are the 2 sources of their mixed origins for the most part

[Dr_Maul]

He/she is considered ethnic Persian, right? Do you have any information on Y/mtdna?

Probably not, although im fairly certain all Bandaris can speak farsi, they do speak Balochi and Arabic as well which are the 2 sources of their mixed origins for the most part

[Babak]

Probably not, although im fairly certain all Bandaris can speak farsi, they do speak Balochi and Arabic as well which are the 2 sources of their mixed origins for the most part

Bandari results make my sperm cells freeze.

[Dr_Maul]

Bandari results make my sperm cells freeze.

haha yeah I felt that

[Sterling Archer]

Bandari results make my sperm cells freeze.

Why?

[Babak]

Why?

Not sure. Could be the low CHG they have lol

[Kyp]

He/she is considered ethnic Persian, right? Do you have any information on Y/mtdna?

Idk what people there are considered. Wikipedia says the language of Qeshm is Persian (Bandari) with Arabic and Southasian influence.

I guess they can be considered Bandari.

The person is R-m269(R1b)

[Leto]

Don't know what kind of Turk this is. She lives in Germany and is married to a Macedonian Gypsy :D

Gedrosia 13.32 Pct
Siberian 1.72 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.45 Pct
North_European 11.92 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.53 Pct
East_Asian 0.42 Pct
Caucasus 48.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Aylin
8.64444909 Turk_East
8.89674098 Greek_Cappadocia
9.00101661 Armenian_East
9.87191977 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.58963644 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.63250676 Turk_Central_East
10.84070108 Turk_Ahiska
10.95891874 Greek_Pontus
11.49951303 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
11.86994103 Armenian_West

Distance to: Aylin
1.44691766 68.00% Laz + 32.00% Turk_Makedonya
1.47243497 19.00% Serb + 81.00% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.49329953 16.20% Slovenian + 83.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.52272043 17.40% Croat_South + 82.60% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.53625529 20.20% Montenegrin + 79.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.56076147 16.80% Croat + 83.20% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.56482523 52.60% Abkhazian + 47.40% Greek_Icaria
1.57970336 21.20% Romanian + 78.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.58004294 16.00% Hungarian_Alföld + 84.00% Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.59386378 15.00% Czech + 85.00% Turk_East_Black_Sea

Target: Aylin
Distance: 1.2521% / 1.25210152 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.9 Abkhazian
24.1 Greek_Cappadocia
22.5 Greek_Icaria
10.2 Ossetian
7.3 Greek_Foca

- - -

A Lebanese or Syrian Muslim

Gedrosia 11.22 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.39 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.51 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.05 Pct
North_European 3.06 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 3.07 Pct
Southwest_Asian 21.45 Pct
East_Asian 0.88 Pct
Caucasus 45.37 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mohamed
5.08958741 Lebanese_Christian
5.81732757 Nusayri_Turkey
6.52020705 Palestinian_Christian
7.19764545 Syrian_SW_Christian
7.41872631 Iraqi_Jew
7.57608078 Jordanian_Christian
7.59401738 Kurdish_Jew
7.61677753 Lebanese_Muslim
7.67922522 Assyrian_West
7.95695922 Assyrian_South

Distance to: Mohamed
2.41889307 21.60% Abkhazian + 78.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
2.49176722 68.80% Armenian_West + 31.20% Coptic
2.52264206 19.60% Abkhazian + 80.40% Palestinian_Christian
2.53865934 22.60% Abkhazian + 77.40% Jordanian_Christian
2.55489887 71.60% Jordanian_Christian + 28.40% Turk_Ahiska
2.57909347 27.40% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 72.60% Jordanian_Christian
2.58391903 22.20% Georgian_West + 77.80% Jordanian_Christian
2.62541752 19.40% Georgian_West + 80.60% Palestinian_Christian
2.62647251 21.20% Georgian_West + 78.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
2.68548529 75.00% Palestinian_Christian + 25.00% Turk_Ahiska

Target: Mohamed
Distance: 1.7276% / 1.72763531 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.2 Palestinian_Christian
18.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.9 Assyrian_West
7.3 Abkhazian
4.4 Ethiopian

[Hektor12]

Distance to: Aylin
8.64444909 Turk_East

Lightly Turkified eastern Anatolid= Standard "Turk" in Germany. I can even see her headscarf and hooked nose..

[Sora]

Lightly Turkified eastern Anatolid= Standard "Turk" in Germany. I can even see her headscarf and hooked nose..

Are you sure a such person you've described would be interested in genealogy? Leave the science itself... :confused:

[Hektor12]

Are you sure a such person you've described would be interested in genealogy? Leave the science itself... :confused:

Would you be surprised by such thing after 20 years of akp rule? (:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhxAX2SW4AExr2k.jpg

[Mejgusu]

Lightly Turkified eastern Anatolid= Standard "Turk" in Germany. I can even see her headscarf and hooked nose..

Were you ever beaten up with a bag full of 1 lira coins(10 € must be enough for over 140 1 lira coins? Or is Turkish economy even worse?). The sad thing is, neither the Greek influence made you European nor the Asian influence made you smart. That explains why the only known Turkish academicians always come from non-Turkish areas.


...

Your parents did a great work, didn’t teach you ahlak. This is a serious thread, I would say don’t post shit but it just shows how dumb you are.

[placebo]

Lol probably my closest distance is Turk_East (because of mix of Turk_Ahiska and Turk_Northwest) but I look like Turkoman.

Phenotype ≠ Genotype

[Hektor12]

neither the Greek influence made you European nor the Asian influence made you smart.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EixtGTXXkAEN-_E.jpg

[Mejgusu]

...

How many Turks won the noble prize? How many Turks are famous in science? I only know Aziz Sancar, Orhan Pamuk is a loser I don’t count him. While look at Armenians, why they are much more successful in science than Turks? This year an Armenian biochemist won, I totally respect it. You look down at Arabs, the same counts for them. Turkey is too obsessed with trying to be something which they aren’t and look down at everyone but don’t know anyone who was revolutionary in science or technology.

[Leto]

How many Turks won the noble prize? How many Turks are famous in science? I only know Aziz Sancar, Orhan Pamuk is a loser I don’t count him. While look at Armenians, why they are much more successful in science than Turks? This year an Armenian biochemist won, I totally respect it. You look down at Arabs, the same counts for them. Turkey is too obsessed with trying to be something which they aren’t and look down at everyone but don’t know anyone who was revolutionary in science or technology.
The Turks might be some of the smartest people in the Middle East (not the Kurds of Turkey). Their neighbors are in complete disarray politically and socially. Except for Israel of course which is not an organic Middle Eastern state.

[Mejgusu]

The Turks might be some of the smartest people in the Middle East (not the Kurds of Turkey). Their neighbors are in complete disarray politically and socially. Except for Israel of course which is not an organic Middle Eastern state.

Syria and Iraq were bombed by foreign powers to their nowadays condition. Iranians are very smart people, Armenians have a lot reputable scientists. But why aren’t Kurds smart? They are less educated than Western Turks but thats rather a sociopolitical dilemma. Turkish education system is a catastrophe, rich families send their children to Germany for studying. That Turkey didn’t end like the neighbors is just luck, not an achievement.

[Sora]

Would you be surprised by such thing after 20 years of akp rule? (:


Indeed not at all :bruh:

[Leto]

A Dagestani with a whopping 30% Gedrosia. Might be partly due to the faulty V5-like Genotek raw data but still remarkable

J1-CTS5368
H15

Gedrosia 30.11 Pct
Siberian 2.77 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.64 Pct
North_European 23.42 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.59 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 32.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.49 Pct

- - -

An Armenian with elevated Steppe ancestry

Gedrosia 18.08 Pct
Siberian 0.83 Pct
Northwest_African 1.96 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.14 Pct
North_European 9.04 Pct
South_Asian 0.47 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.39 Pct
East_Asian 0.11 Pct
Caucasus 46.98 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Elina
1.70464105 68.00% Armenian_West + 32.00% Kumyk
1.74370452 69.60% Armenian_West + 30.40% Chechen
1.82193307 43.20% Adyghe + 56.80% Assyrian_West
1.91571781 76.80% Armenian_West + 23.20% Dargin_Kaitag
1.97004647 85.40% Armenian_East + 14.60% Dargin_Kaitag
1.97062229 73.60% Armenian_East + 26.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.99741711 85.40% Armenian_East + 14.60% Avar
2.00024442 83.40% Armenian_East + 16.60% Tabasaran
2.02380144 79.20% Armenian_East + 20.80% Kumyk
2.04830625 75.40% Armenian_West + 24.60% Lak

Target: Elina
Distance: 1.9793% / 1.97928425 | ADC: 0.5x RC
41.1 Turk_East
34.0 Armenian_East
14.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.5 Adyghe

- - -

Some kind of Egyptian-Palestinian mix, maybe a mongrelized Gazan Palestinian?

Gedrosia 8.02 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 7.22 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.75 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.24 Pct
North_European 0.24 Pct
South_Asian 0.1 Pct
East_African 6.17 Pct
Southwest_Asian 25.36 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 35.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan 4.01 Pct

Distance to: Musa
4.20691098 Jordanian_Muslim
4.83411833 Palestinian
8.12064037 Syrian_Muslim
9.20123361 Lebanese_Muslim
9.55108894 Egyptian
9.59071426 Jordanian_Christian
9.88866523 Syrian_SW_Christian
10.30972842 Palestinian_Christian
10.84578259 Coptic
11.97228048 Iraqi_Arab

Distance to: Musa
2.15511471 56.20% Egyptian + 43.80% Lebanese_Christian
2.16387222 51.00% Egyptian + 49.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
2.23053002 52.00% Egyptian + 48.00% Palestinian_Christian
2.29059052 62.80% Egyptian + 37.20% Iraqi_Jew
2.44051525 63.80% Egyptian + 36.20% Kurdish_Jew
2.44574691 50.20% Egyptian + 49.80% Jordanian_Christian
2.68842751 30.40% Egyptian + 69.60% Palestinian
2.69926009 66.80% Egyptian + 33.20% Assyrian_West
2.76861062 66.60% Egyptian + 33.40% Assyrian_South
2.85537503 67.60% Egyptian + 32.40% Assyrian_North

Target: Musa
Distance: 1.3129% / 1.31294111 | ADC: 0.25x RC
24.0 Jordanian_Muslim
20.9 Egyptian
19.8 Coptic
19.5 Syrian_SW_Christian
8.4 Palestinian
5.5 Hemshin
1.9 Yoruba

Target: Musa
Distance: 2.0059% / 2.00593890 | ADC: 0.5x RC
37.9 Egyptian
31.4 Jordanian_Muslim
30.7 Jordanian_Christian

[Leto]

An Uzbek from Samarkand living in California. Probably posted here in the past, maybe last year. He is quite fair-skinned, even has light eyes. Looks more like a Tatar from Russia rather than Uzbeks who are much more dark-skinned.

N-L708
T1a1

Gedrosia 14.1 Pct
Siberian 19.67 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.7 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.05 Pct
North_European 16.61 Pct
South_Asian 3.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.28 Pct
East_Asian 24.2 Pct
Caucasus 13.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: O.B.
5.83358380 Nogai_Stavropol
6.41715669 Karakalpak
7.18629251 Uzbeki
7.45812309 Turkmen_Afghanistan
9.65393702 Uyghur_Xinjiang
10.27526642 Nogai_Astrakhan
10.45489837 Uzbek
12.73833584 Hazara
13.43369272 Kazakh
15.07149959 Kyrgyz_Pamir

Distance to: O.B.
1.46549612 53.00% Karakalpak + 47.00% Uzbeki
1.47168993 54.00% Karakalpak + 46.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
1.67161360 40.80% Nogai_Astrakhan + 59.20% Uzbeki
1.74597941 68.20% Kazakh + 31.80% Tajik_Lowland
1.82736239 66.20% Kazakh + 33.80% Tajik_Mountain
1.84485299 35.20% Kazakh + 64.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
1.84753543 82.40% Karakalpak + 17.60% Tajik_Lowland
1.86361500 81.00% Karakalpak + 19.00% Tajik_Mountain
1.88334386 71.80% Kazakh + 28.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.94415721 34.20% Kazakh + 65.80% Uzbeki

Target: O.B.
Distance: 1.1624% / 1.16238718 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.5 Karakalpak
24.1 Uzbeki
23.4 Turkmen_Afghanistan

https://downloadwap.com/thumbs2/wallpapers/p2/2019/signs/44/16cc6b9013444277.jpg
:cool:

[Zanzibar]

An Uzbek from Samarkand living in California. Probably posted here in the past, maybe last year. He is quite fair-skinned, even has light eyes. Looks more like a Tatar from Russia rather than Uzbeks who are much more dark-skinned.

N-L708
T1a1

Gedrosia 14.1 Pct
Siberian 19.67 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.7 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.05 Pct
North_European 16.61 Pct
South_Asian 3.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.28 Pct
East_Asian 24.2 Pct
Caucasus 13.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: O.B.
5.83358380 Nogai_Stavropol
6.41715669 Karakalpak
7.18629251 Uzbeki
7.45812309 Turkmen_Afghanistan
9.65393702 Uyghur_Xinjiang
10.27526642 Nogai_Astrakhan
10.45489837 Uzbek
12.73833584 Hazara
13.43369272 Kazakh
15.07149959 Kyrgyz_Pamir

Distance to: O.B.
1.46549612 53.00% Karakalpak + 47.00% Uzbeki
1.47168993 54.00% Karakalpak + 46.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
1.67161360 40.80% Nogai_Astrakhan + 59.20% Uzbeki
1.74597941 68.20% Kazakh + 31.80% Tajik_Lowland
1.82736239 66.20% Kazakh + 33.80% Tajik_Mountain
1.84485299 35.20% Kazakh + 64.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
1.84753543 82.40% Karakalpak + 17.60% Tajik_Lowland
1.86361500 81.00% Karakalpak + 19.00% Tajik_Mountain
1.88334386 71.80% Kazakh + 28.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.94415721 34.20% Kazakh + 65.80% Uzbeki

Target: O.B.
Distance: 1.1624% / 1.16238718 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.5 Karakalpak
24.1 Uzbeki
23.4 Turkmen_Afghanistan

https://downloadwap.com/thumbs2/wallpapers/p2/2019/signs/44/16cc6b9013444277.jpg
:cool:

Does he get mistaken for White in the states or he just look like a hapa with light color eyes? Wondering because it looks like he is 45% Mong

[Leto]

Does he get mistaken for White in the states or he just look like a hapa with light color eyes? Wondering because it looks like he is 45% Mong
Clearly the latter
Photo (https://scontent.fhrk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/136739046_1804190176413258_48304941465526358_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=7aed08&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeFwAMUIwNSy42VVuArYvo4RZGiuwO1IFMVkaK7A7 UgUxfdiSz-G0qFsp6xUmwaeboHwK22E6qqWnCpTrNTruczn&_nc_ohc=bR7APCT-Bx4AX9IAlBM&_nc_oc=AQlO6BBUMHFEDBkFXSdxvj4qoCvJ-TSRqBhl-Wpwh9VPpS9_Jze5-5CJUBzWlsTz6qw&_nc_ht=scontent.fhrk1-1.fna&oh=c14496822dde8fe675626cf4e4f6a829&oe=61CA8783)
With 40+% East Eurasian it's virtually impossible to look white. Hell, many Tatars with 20% look either hapa or Central Asian.

[Mejgusu]

...

This men looks very Nogay/Tatar, definitely atypical for Uzbek. I saw some with blue eyes but they still had similar skin color like most Persians.

[Leto]

This men looks very Nogay/Tatar, definitely atypical for Uzbek. I saw some with blue eyes but they still had similar skin color like most Persians.
Yep, he might be similar to some Early Turkics.

[Leto]

Okay, two more that I've got

Jordanian (photo (https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d8b327_cf370b06dac54c03883fbbe6e5720c79~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_480,fp_0.35_0.48,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/d8b327_cf370b06dac54c03883fbbe6e5720c79~mv2.webp)) . He is pretty much purely Levantine despite him being Muslim

Gedrosia 11.26 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.2 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.08 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian -
East_African 1.71 Pct
Southwest_Asian 25.8 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 41.94 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Wajdi
2.29673682 Syrian_SW_Christian
2.94801628 Palestinian_Christian
3.16507504 Jordanian_Christian
4.50961196 Lebanese_Christian
6.99644195 Palestinian
7.59676247 Lebanese_Muslim
7.76459915 Nusayri_Turkey
7.98785328 Jordanian_Muslim
8.14393639 Syrian_Muslim
8.82803489 Iraqi_Jew

Distance to: Wajdi
1.64675576 3.40% Balochi + 96.60% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.64733660 12.20% Mandean + 87.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.68306506 9.80% Arab_Iran + 90.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.73601385 10.60% Iraqi_Arab + 89.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.73783452 3.80% Iranian_Bandari + 96.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.74523452 14.80% Iraqi_Jew + 85.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.74548016 6.20% Iranian_Lur + 93.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.75804461 4.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 95.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.75906621 6.00% Kurd_Feyli + 94.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.78089972 10.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 89.80% Syrian_SW_Christian

Target: Wajdi
Distance: 1.4908% / 1.49080395 | ADC: 0.5x RC
82.9 Syrian_SW_Christian
9.9 Iraqi_Jew
7.2 Iraqi_Arab


Ingush

Gedrosia 21.61 Pct
Siberian 3.5 Pct
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.74 Pct
North_European 16.12 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.73 Pct
East_Asian 1.64 Pct
Caucasus 44.4 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Hadi
4.95711610 Ingush
5.78268104 Adyghe
6.39901555 Circassian
6.45652383 Karachay
6.59567282 Ossetian
6.63514129 Abazin
6.95816786 Kabardin
7.23333948 Balkar
7.35821989 Kumyk
7.36729258 Chechen

Distance to: Hadi
3.03313403 93.60% Ingush + 6.40% Sardinian
3.58799523 8.00% French_Corsica + 92.00% Ingush
3.66306914 89.40% Ingush + 10.60% Italian_Campania
3.67140862 11.40% Greek_Icaria + 88.60% Ingush
3.71386780 10.40% Italian_Molise + 89.60% Ingush
3.71717958 89.20% Ingush + 10.80% Italian_Calabria
3.73166858 12.20% Greek_Rhodes + 87.80% Ingush
3.74181436 89.60% Ingush + 10.40% Italian_Abruzzo
3.74442399 11.00% Italian_Basilicata + 89.00% Ingush
3.74649272 90.20% Ingush + 9.80% Sephardic_Jews

Target: Hadi
Distance: 2.5580% / 2.55802109 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.8 Ingush
9.2 Georgian_West
7.0 Sardinian

[Zanzibar]

Clearly the latter
Photo (https://scontent.fhrk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/136739046_1804190176413258_48304941465526358_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=7aed08&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeFwAMUIwNSy42VVuArYvo4RZGiuwO1IFMVkaK7A7 UgUxfdiSz-G0qFsp6xUmwaeboHwK22E6qqWnCpTrNTruczn&_nc_ohc=bR7APCT-Bx4AX9IAlBM&_nc_oc=AQlO6BBUMHFEDBkFXSdxvj4qoCvJ-TSRqBhl-Wpwh9VPpS9_Jze5-5CJUBzWlsTz6qw&_nc_ht=scontent.fhrk1-1.fna&oh=c14496822dde8fe675626cf4e4f6a829&oe=61CA8783)
With 40+% East Eurasian it's virtually impossible to look white. Hell, many Tatars with 20% look either hapa or Central Asian.

Interesting. So what's the highest amount of Mong can someone still look white in your opinion? It's fascinating to me because its seems to be the opposite for Kazakhs, many of them still look pure NE Asian/Siberian and don't show any Caucasoid in their phenos despite being 40% West Eurasian.

[Sora]

An Uzbek from Samarkand


I must confess that his results look almost purely ancient Turkic! :shocked::cool: Also not all Uzbeks are dark at all, there can be many light skinned Uzbeks too, I've even seen an Uzbek girl with ghost light skin. So, Uzbeks are too cosmopolitan on phenotypes just like Turks. I even know an Uzbek influencer guy with ancient Kipchak look(weird af)! He has natural blond hair but very Mongoloid face :confused: He calls himself "Zolotoy blogger"

The Moscow-based Uzbek young singer Gafur Isakhanov (Гафур) looks predominantly Arab although he is mostly Uzbek(his grandma is said to be Moroccan). I was even shocked when I've learnt he is Uzbek, also told myself "If he is Uzbek, then I'm Polynesian" :p xD

https://repost.uz/storage/uploads/8-1622409781-nadira-post-material.jpeg
(A.k.a "The Berbero-Mongol kid" :P he can pass as pure Berber in Moroccan highlands & Algero-Moroccan coast + a Bedouin boi in Arabian desert)

BTW, isn't Samarkand at least 70% Tajik? It's too unusual to see a high Mongoloid result from there :confused:

[Sterling Archer]

Some Dags look really archaic. This is a Lak from Dagestan. A fucking huge percentage of European admixture!

Gedrosia 28.61 Pct
Siberian 2.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.42 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.81 Pct
North_European 30.75 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.94 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Another Lak from Dagestan. This one is even more extreme.

Lak_Dagestan,27,2.45,0,0,1.1,31.46,0,0,1.54,0.59,3 5.87,0

Distance to: Lak_Dagestan
6.27324477 Dargin_Kaitag
6.41619046 Dargin
6.92894653 Avar
7.45475687 Dargin_Kubachi
8.16050856 Lak
10.05225348 Tabasaran
11.07859648 Lezgin
13.92956927 Chechen
15.34582354 Kumyk
17.21677380 Ingush
18.20702886 Balkar
18.52495074 Kabardin
18.65090346 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
19.39032233 Karachay
19.73855618 Abazin
19.98582247 Circassian
20.36837500 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.69042532 Adyghe
21.22282733 Ossetian
21.70865726 Tajik_Lowland
22.26165987 Nogai
22.64945253 Pamiri_Rushan
23.40587533 Tajik_Mountain
23.55995968 Ossetian_South
23.62583120 Pamiri_Shughnan

[orhanaa]

Turkish result from Rhodes island

Gedrosia 11.11 Pct
Siberian -3.43 Pct
Northwest_African 2.18 Pct
Southeast_Asian - 2.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.02 Pct
North_European - 13.06 Pct
South_Asian - 1.25 Pct
East_African 0.09 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.08 Pct
East_Asian - 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 34.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Kyp]

Something new:

Average out of two sibling Southern Tat results from Taleqan in Alborz Province Iran
Ydna: R1b

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/IranAlborz-SVG.svg/375px-IranAlborz-SVG.svg.png

Gedrosian: 28.83
Siberian: 1.47
Northwest_African: 0.04
Southeast_Asian: 0.43
Atlantic_Med: 4.74
North_European: 4.73
South_Asian 3.55
East_African 0.01
Southwest_Asian: 12.49
East_Asian: 1.31
Caucasian: 42.13
SSA: 0.24

Distance to: Southern_Tat_Taleqani
3.68844141 Kurd_Feyli
4.25974178 Iranian_Lur
4.51914815 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.46177627 Kurd_Sorani
5.74721672 Iranian_Mazandaran
6.47643420 Yazidi_Kurd
6.99427623 Iranian_Central
7.25691394 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.35140123 Dersim
7.69373121 Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.47153469 Iranian_Fars
9.27203322 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.41725544 Turkmen_Iraq
9.82355333 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.86508629 Iranian_Kerman
10.93369562 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.00791079 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.24714252 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.31346824 Iranian_Khorasan
13.34184395 Turk_East
13.96550751 Turk_Southeast
14.18124466 Mandean
14.50128270 Azeri_Jew
14.68043596 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.90440539 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti

Target: Southern_Tat_Taleqani
Distance: 0.7682% / 0.76824285
72.2 Iranian_Mazandaran
20.0 Assyrian_North
5.9 Laz
1.9 Negidal


One of them scores over 44% Caucasus

[Babak]

Something new:

Average out of two sibling Southern Tat results from Taleqan in Alborz Province Iran
Ydna: R1b

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/IranAlborz-SVG.svg/375px-IranAlborz-SVG.svg.png

Gedrosian: 28.83
Siberian: 1.47
Northwest_African: 0.04
Southeast_Asian: 0.43
Atlantic_Med: 4.74
North_European: 4.73
South_Asian 3.55
East_African 0.01
Southwest_Asian: 12.49
East_Asian: 1.31
Caucasian: 42.13
SSA: 0.24

Distance to: Southern_Tat_Taleqani
3.68844141 Kurd_Feyli
4.25974178 Iranian_Lur
4.51914815 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.46177627 Kurd_Sorani
5.74721672 Iranian_Mazandaran
6.47643420 Yazidi_Kurd
6.99427623 Iranian_Central
7.25691394 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.35140123 Dersim
7.69373121 Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.47153469 Iranian_Fars
9.27203322 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.41725544 Turkmen_Iraq
9.82355333 Azerbaijani_Republic
10.86508629 Iranian_Kerman
10.93369562 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.00791079 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.24714252 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.31346824 Iranian_Khorasan
13.34184395 Turk_East
13.96550751 Turk_Southeast
14.18124466 Mandean
14.50128270 Azeri_Jew
14.68043596 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.90440539 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti

Target: Southern_Tat_Taleqani
Distance: 0.7682% / 0.76824285
72.2 Iranian_Mazandaran
20.0 Assyrian_North
5.9 Laz
1.9 Negidal


One of them scores over 44% Caucasus

Wow hes archaic af lol

[happycow]

Okay, two more that I've got

Jordanian (photo (https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d8b327_cf370b06dac54c03883fbbe6e5720c79~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_480,fp_0.35_0.48,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/d8b327_cf370b06dac54c03883fbbe6e5720c79~mv2.webp)) . He is pretty much purely Levantine despite him being Muslim

Gedrosia 11.26 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.2 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.08 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian -
East_African 1.71 Pct
Southwest_Asian 25.8 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 41.94 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Wajdi
2.29673682 Syrian_SW_Christian
2.94801628 Palestinian_Christian
3.16507504 Jordanian_Christian
4.50961196 Lebanese_Christian
6.99644195 Palestinian
7.59676247 Lebanese_Muslim
7.76459915 Nusayri_Turkey
7.98785328 Jordanian_Muslim
8.14393639 Syrian_Muslim
8.82803489 Iraqi_Jew

Distance to: Wajdi
1.64675576 3.40% Balochi + 96.60% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.64733660 12.20% Mandean + 87.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.68306506 9.80% Arab_Iran + 90.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.73601385 10.60% Iraqi_Arab + 89.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.73783452 3.80% Iranian_Bandari + 96.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.74523452 14.80% Iraqi_Jew + 85.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.74548016 6.20% Iranian_Lur + 93.80% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.75804461 4.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 95.40% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.75906621 6.00% Kurd_Feyli + 94.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
1.78089972 10.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 89.80% Syrian_SW_Christian

Target: Wajdi
Distance: 1.4908% / 1.49080395 | ADC: 0.5x RC
82.9 Syrian_SW_Christian
9.9 Iraqi_Jew
7.2 Iraqi_Arab



Pure levantine unlike me. :cry

[Leto]

Pure levantine unlike me. :cry
At least you have black privilege, dude xD

[happycow]

At least you have black privilege, dude xD

True. My black privilege may make some envious. :P

[Kyp]

Iranian Azeri:

Gedrosian: 20.84
Siberian: 2.70
Northwest_African: 0.17
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.27
North_European: 9.66
South_Asian 1.64
East_African 0.58
Southwest_Asian: 12.48
East_Asian: 3.59
Caucasian: 40.56
SSA: 0.51

Distance to: Iranian_Azeri
2.13220543 Azerbaijani_Republic
2.97593683 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.42232377 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.17406996 Dersim
5.48936244 Turk_Southeast
5.93209069 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.47989197 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.92251399 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.33641602 Turkmen_Iraq
7.39483604 Turk_Central_East
7.40154038 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.60977661 Turk_East
7.82219279 Yazidi_Kurd
8.20294459 Turk_South
8.35585424 Kurd_Sorani
8.69433724 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.47177914 Iranian_Central
9.57746835 Kurd_Feyli
9.75324049 Turk_Central_West
9.90707828 Iranian_Zoroastrian
10.17143549 Iranian_Lur
10.39085656 Southern_Tat_Taleqani
11.19484703 Iranian_Fars
11.54754952 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.94216898 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Iranian_Azeri
Distance: 1.2652% / 1.26519100 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.7 Azerbaijani_Republic
8.7 Abkhazian
4.4 Nogai
3.2 Kuwait2

[placebo]

Turkish result from Rhodes island

Gedrosia 11.11 Pct
Siberian -3.43 Pct
Northwest_African 2.18 Pct
Southeast_Asian - 2.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.02 Pct
North_European - 13.06 Pct
South_Asian - 1.25 Pct
East_African 0.09 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.08 Pct
East_Asian - 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 34.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

I didn't expect distance list like this. I didn't even know there were Turks from Rhodes.

Distance to: Turk_Rodos
6.17220382 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.65584705 Turk_Northwest
7.26993122 Turk_Southwest
7.85857493 Turk_Central_West
8.82443199 Greek_Crete
9.17565801 Greek_Fournoi
9.31481615 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.53040398 Greek_Lemnos
9.95405445 Greek_Izmir
10.12810940 Turk_South
10.40286980 Greek_Kos
10.56648475 Moldovan_Jewish
10.72943149 Turk_Central_East
10.78771987 Italian_Basilicata
10.85899627 Italian_Apulia
11.12398310 Turk_Cyprus
11.21301030 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.23668545 Ashkenazi_Jews
11.26700493 Greek_Rhodes
11.32762552 Italian_Sicily
11.53603485 Greek_Foca
11.60736404 Italian_Calabria
12.43556191 Turk_Southeast
12.69691695 Italian_Campania
12.98549190 Greek_Icaria

[Kaspias]

Turkish result from Rhodes island

Gedrosia 11.11 Pct
Siberian -3.43 Pct
Northwest_African 2.18 Pct
Southeast_Asian - 2.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.02 Pct
North_European - 13.06 Pct
South_Asian - 1.25 Pct
East_African 0.09 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.08 Pct
East_Asian - 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 34.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Are you sure that this is an "organic" result? It makes 99.09% when adding all components, and you have got "-" before Turkic components like East Eurasian ones and South Asian. It's like you manually edited it.

However, for the sake of the context, there are actual ethnic Turks in Rhodes just like there were in Crete, yes.

[orhanaa]

Are you sure that this is an "organic" result? It makes 99.09% when adding all components, and you have got "-" before Turkic components like East Eurasian ones and South Asian. It's like you manually edited it.

However, for the sake of the context, there are actual ethnic Turks in Rhodes just like there were in Crete, yes.

Turkish dna grubundan aldım, elden kendim yazdım nasıl fotoğraf atacağımı bilmiyordum

[Kaspias]

Turkish dna grubundan aldım, elden kendim yazdım nasıl fotoğraf atacağımı bilmiyordum

Haklısın, şimdi gördüm.

For the information of the rest, the kit is validated. According to the family stories his ancestors were the Yoruks who settled in Rhodes from Burdur five centuries ago.


Population
Gedrosia 11.11 Pct
Siberian 3.43 Pct
Northwest_African 2.18 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.2 Pct
North_European 13.6 Pct
South_Asian 1.25 Pct
East_African 0.09 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.08 Pct
East_Asian 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 34.2 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: R
6.23227888 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.70139538 Turk_Northwest
7.45041610 Turk_Southwest
8.05717072 Turk_Central_West
8.62659840 Greek_Crete
8.90825460 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.97072461 Greek_Fournoi
9.17650260 Greek_Lemnos
9.64920722 Greek_Izmir
10.35935326 Turk_South
10.37081000 Greek_Kos
10.41670773 Moldovan_Jewish
10.54071155 Italian_Apulia
10.60123106 Italian_Basilicata
10.92576313 Turk_Central_East
11.10568773 Ashkenazi_Jews
11.12991015 Greek_Foca
11.19142082 Italian_Sicily
11.26380930 Greek_Rhodes
11.29627372 Turk_Cyprus
11.41632165 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.53643359 Italian_Calabria
12.52233604 Italian_Campania
12.69045310 Turk_Southeast
12.84258930 Italian_Abruzzo

Distance to: R
2.59810214 76.00% Greek_Crete + 24.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.69700053 49.60% Italian_Apulia + 50.40% Turk_South
2.70181294 37.80% Moldovan_Jewish + 62.20% Turk_Northwest
2.71364007 40.60% Italian_Apulia + 59.40% Turk_Southwest
2.73622745 34.00% Italian_Sicily + 66.00% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.74524970 35.20% Italian_Calabria + 64.80% Turk_Northwest
2.75495286 35.40% Italian_Basilicata + 64.60% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.80513753 72.60% Greek_Crete + 27.40% Turkmen_Iran
2.81222511 37.00% Italian_Lazio + 63.00% Turk_South
2.81774829 42.80% Greek_Crete + 57.20% Turk_Northwest
2.84136663 41.60% Greek_Fournoi + 58.40% Turk_Northwest
2.86135871 35.40% Italian_Apulia + 64.60% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.86424092 40.80% Moldovan_Jewish + 59.20% Turk_Southwest
2.87403712 34.80% Italian_Umbria + 65.20% Turk_South
2.87787469 40.20% Italian_Basilicata + 59.80% Turk_Southwest
2.88887429 70.20% Greek_Izmir + 29.80% Turkmen_Iran
2.89377875 71.80% Greek_Fournoi + 28.20% Turkmen_Iran
2.91586414 30.60% Italian_Abruzzo + 69.40% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.91881672 36.00% Ashkenazi_Jews + 64.00% Turk_Northwest
2.91956649 44.00% Greek_Lemnos + 56.00% Turk_Southwest
2.92148714 36.20% Italian_Marche + 63.80% Turk_South
2.92826948 30.80% Italian_Lazio + 69.20% Turk_Central_West
2.94730172 23.80% Italian_Marche + 76.20% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.94979056 38.80% Italian_Sicily + 61.20% Turk_Southwest

[orhanaa]

Macedonian Turkish Alevi - Bektashi DNA Result

Population
Gedrosia 3.72 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.31 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.20 Pct
Atlantic_Med 25.43 Pct
North_European 28.20 Pct
South_Asian 0.73 Pct
East_African 1.20 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.96 Pct
East_Asian 1.74 Pct
Caucasus 29.50 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[orhanaa]

Turkish result from Kos island

Gedrosia 10.96 Pct
Siberian 3.92 Pct
Northwest_African 1.68 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.38 Pct
North_European - 9.89 Pct
South_Asian - 0.6 Pct
East_African 0.85 Pct
Southwest_Asian 17.16 Pct
East_Asian - 6.64 Pct
Caucasus 32.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[orhanaa]

Half Turkish Alevi, Half Kurdish Alevi from Sivas Province, Turkey

Gedrosia 17.62 Pct
Siberian 2.2 Pct
Northwest_African 1.97 Pct
Southeast_Asian - 1.11 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.47 Pct
North_European - 10.71 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 1.17 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.34 Pct
East_Asian - 3.46 Pct
Caucasus 40.84 Pct
Sub_Saharan - 0.1 Pct

[harutsafaryan07]

Georgian from Turkey Izmir

Gedrosia 17.36 Pct
Siberian 1.01 Pct
Northwest_African 1.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.77 Pct
North_European 10.50 Pct
South_Asian 1.25 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.05 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 55.62 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Georgian_Izmir
5.19483397 Abkhazian
5.82208725 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
5.92559702 Georgian_West
7.07063646 Turk_Ahiska
8.37612082 Laz
8.56834290 Hemshin
9.69891231 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.71095773 Ossetian_South
11.16085122 Armenian_East
11.72762551 Greek_Pontus
12.15590803 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.38583869 Ossetian
12.53927829 Adyghe
12.91682624 Turk_East
14.54550102 Armenian_West

[Kyp]

From Yazd, Iran

Gedrosian: 29.92
Siberian: 3.26
Northwest_African: 0.39
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.67
North_European: 12.53
South_Asian 10.80
East_African 0.38
Southwest_Asian: 8.67
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 27.44
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Yazd
7.35174129 Tajik_Herat
7.58084428 Iranian_Khorasan
8.76777053 Iranian_Kerman
10.83785495 Parsi_India
11.13843346 Iranian_Bandari
12.48318870 Iranian_Zoroastrian
12.66466739 Iranian_Fars
12.74539132 Pashtun_Kandahar
12.96971472 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
13.01195604 Iranian_Central
13.46255919 Tajik_Lowland
13.65246132 Persian_Isfahan
14.13271736 Persian_Khuzestan
14.16424724 Tajik_Mountain
14.85521457 Tajik_Kabul
15.77187053 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
16.12560386 Gilan
16.62705626 Iranian_Mazandaran
16.63890321 Kurd_Sorani
16.65927069 Turkmen_Iran
16.85399359 Yazidi
17.11238148 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.11392123 Azerbaijani_Iran
17.35131119 Pamiri_Rushan
17.44399897 Iranian_Lur

Target: Yazd
Distance: 1.1353% / 1.13525389 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.0 Iranian_Kerman
28.0 Nuristani_Afghanistan
9.8 Bulgarian_Thrace
2.2 Nganasan

[orhanaa]

Kurdish Alevi from Tunceli Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 25.29
Siberian: 1.67
Northwest_African: 0.30
Southeast_Asian: 0.63
Atlantic_Med: 8.25
North_European: 9.16
South_Asian 3.25
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 12.54
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 38.91
Sub_Saharan: -

[orhanaa]

Kurdish Alevi from Malatya and Kahramanmaraş Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 21.89
Siberian: 2.83
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 5.19
North_European: 9.31
South_Asian 3.54
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 14.40
East_Asian: 0.29
Caucasian: 42.17
Sub_Saharan: 0.36

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Sabirabad who is 75% from Shahsevan tribe:, remaining 25% are Talysh (non-Azeri)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahsevan

Gedrosian: 22.45
Siberian: 7.05
Northwest_African: 0.64
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 4.72
North_European: 10.55
South_Asian 3.18
East_African 0.07
Southwest_Asian: 11.30
East_Asian: 1.53
Caucasian: 37.79
SSA: 0.71

Distance to: Shahsevan_Sabirabad
6.13669292 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.68481862 Azerbaijani_Republic
7.50922766 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.86818276 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.43726852 Dersim_Turkey
8.68834852 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.71222704 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.09448734 Iranian_Central
9.27391503 Iranian_Zoroastrian
9.38995208 Turk_Southeast
9.47890816 Turkmen_Iraq
9.57908138 Kurd_Sorani
9.61731771 Yazidi
10.31697630 Kurd_Feyli
10.49984286 Iranian_Fars
10.55809642 Turk_South
10.76734415 Iranian_Khorasan
11.02103443 Iranian_Lur
11.38213073 Turk_Central_East
11.61415516 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.92542242 Iranian_Kerman
12.17728623 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.67216635 Turk_East
12.70941383 Turk_Central_West
13.05142521 Kumyk

Target: Shahsevan_Sabirabad
Distance: 1.3816% / 1.38160045 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 Kurd_Feyli
22.3 Karachay
9.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.7 Selkup

[orhanaa]

Zaza Alevi from Kayseri Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 24.44
Siberian: 2.29
Northwest_African: 0.18
Southeast_Asian: 1.53
Atlantic_Med: 7.34
North_European: 8.16
South_Asian 0.65
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 13.04
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 42.36
Sub_Saharan: -

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani from Sabirabad who is 75% from Shahsevan tribe:, remaining 25% are Talysh (non-Azeri)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahsevan

Gedrosian: 22.45
Siberian: 7.05
Northwest_African: 0.64
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 4.72
North_European: 10.55
South_Asian 3.18
East_African 0.07
Southwest_Asian: 11.30
East_Asian: 1.53
Caucasian: 37.79
SSA: 0.71

I come back once in a while and find an interesting result ))
This is a strange result. Why is he so north shifted? And what the hell is going on with his Siberia??? This must be a record.
Where did you get this result?

[Babak]

From Yazd, Iran

Gedrosian: 29.92
Siberian: 3.26
Northwest_African: 0.39
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.67
North_European: 12.53
South_Asian 10.80
East_African 0.38
Southwest_Asian: 8.67
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 27.44
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Yazd
7.35174129 Tajik_Herat
7.58084428 Iranian_Khorasan
8.76777053 Iranian_Kerman
10.83785495 Parsi_India
11.13843346 Iranian_Bandari
12.48318870 Iranian_Zoroastrian
12.66466739 Iranian_Fars
12.74539132 Pashtun_Kandahar
12.96971472 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
13.01195604 Iranian_Central
13.46255919 Tajik_Lowland
13.65246132 Persian_Isfahan
14.13271736 Persian_Khuzestan
14.16424724 Tajik_Mountain
14.85521457 Tajik_Kabul
15.77187053 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
16.12560386 Gilan
16.62705626 Iranian_Mazandaran
16.63890321 Kurd_Sorani
16.65927069 Turkmen_Iran
16.85399359 Yazidi
17.11238148 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.11392123 Azerbaijani_Iran
17.35131119 Pamiri_Rushan
17.44399897 Iranian_Lur

Target: Yazd
Distance: 1.1353% / 1.13525389 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.0 Iranian_Kerman
28.0 Nuristani_Afghanistan
9.8 Bulgarian_Thrace
2.2 Nganasan

Whats up with this one? Afghan+persian mix? His NE is high lol

[Kyp]

I come back once in a while and find an interesting result ))
This is a strange result. Why is he so north shifted? And what the hell is going on with his Siberia??? This must be a record.
Where did you get this result?

Azerbaycan DNA Project. I will get his g25 coordinates soon too, so we can better understand his result. It's indeed a Siberia record for all Azerbaijanis. But Siberia and East Asian split in Dodecad is a bit wacky. I dont know why his result is like that. Shahsevan being a bit isolated because of lifestyle maybe plays a part?

He said his Shahsevan side came from Ardabil, Iran to Sabirabad.


Whats up with this one? Afghan+persian mix?

Possible, but the person who sent it to me said all recent ancestry from Yazd.

[orhanaa]

Kurdish Alevi from Tunceli Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 22.31
Siberian: 0.5
Northwest_African: 1.02
Southeast_Asian: 0.5
Atlantic_Med: 5.34
North_European: 6.85
South_Asian 2.03
East_African 0.83
Southwest_Asian: 14.91
East_Asian: 1.48
Caucasian: 44.22
Sub_Saharan: -

[Kyp]

I come back once in a while and find an interesting result ))
This is a strange result. Why is he so north shifted? And what the hell is going on with his Siberia??? This must be a record.
Where did you get this result?

His g25 results:

Target: Shahsevan_scaled
Distance: 1.4453% / 0.01445311
36.6 Iran_CHL
24.8 Anatolia_Chalcolithic
19.4 Steppe(Sintashta)
9.0 Early_Mongolia(Slab_Grave)
5.4 Caucasus
4.8 Semitic


Distance to: Shahsevan_scaled
0.03039921 Azerbaijani_Iran_Tabriz
0.03071508 Azerbaijani_Iran_Tehran
0.03565014 Azerbaijani_Iran_Zanjan
0.03650019 Azerbaijani_Iran_Urumia
0.03680944 Azerbaijani_Republic
0.03774135 Persian_Iran_North
0.03952449 Kurd_East_Kermanshah
0.03979204 Persian_Iran_Tehran
0.04144900 Persian_Iran_South
0.04154004 Azerbaijani_Daghestan
0.04183949 Persian_Iran_Kerman
0.04336554 Persian_Iran_Central
0.04375553 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04412436 Turk_South
0.04578190 Persian_Iran_Khorasan
0.04638989 Kurd_Average
0.04681199 Turk_Central
0.04690398 Kurd_West_Al-Hasaka
0.04772081 Kurd_North_Kurmanji
0.04845609 Turk_North
0.04951218 Lur_Iran
0.04979842 Turkmen_Turkmenistan_B_o
0.04979938 Zoroastrian_Central_Iran
0.04987633 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05046814 Turk_Adana_o1

Target: Shahsevan_scaled
Distance: 2.3135% / 0.02313492 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.2 Persian_Iran_Kerman
28.8 Turk_South
18.0 Turkmen_Turkmenistan_B_o
9.4 Azerbaijani_Iran_Tabriz
3.6 Kumyk


Distance to: Shahsevan_scaled
0.02390360 41.40% Mazanderani + 58.60% Turk_South
0.02404731 19.60% Bashkir_o + 80.40% Lur_Iran
0.02416269 16.80% Bashkir + 83.20% Lur_Iran
0.02424789 80.00% Lur_Iran + 20.00% Uzbek_o
0.02447242 85.00% Lur_Iran + 15.00% Tatar_Siberian
0.02450770 52.00% Persian_Iran_Kerman + 48.00% Turk_South
0.02467537 77.80% Lur_Iran + 22.20% Tatar_Lipka
0.02468486 89.60% Persian_Iran_North + 10.40% Tatar_Siberian
0.02469176 67.80% Kurd_North_Kurmanji + 32.20% Turkmen_Turkmenistan_B
0.02474872 78.20% Lur_Iran + 21.80% Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.02477365 51.40% Kurd_North_Kurmanji + 48.60% Turkmen_Turkmenistan_B_o
0.02481105 11.60% Bashkir + 88.40% Persian_Iran_North
0.02481613 91.80% Persian_Iran_North + 8.20% Tubalar
0.02481972 92.20% Persian_Iran_North + 7.80% Shor
0.02492502 76.60% Kurd_North_Kurmanji + 23.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.02492775 92.00% Persian_Iran_North + 8.00% Shor_Mountain
0.02493242 7.40% Khakass + 92.60% Persian_Iran_North
0.02506114 10.20% Nogai + 89.80% Persian_Iran_North
0.02506587 11.20% Nogai + 88.80% Persian_Iran_Tehran
0.02509694 79.20% Lur_Iran + 20.80% Turkmen_Turkmenistan_A
0.02511798 75.40% Persian_Iran_North + 24.60% Turkmen_Turkmenistan_B
0.02513774 85.20% Persian_Iran_North + 14.80% Turkmen_Turkmenistan_A
0.02517251 82.60% Persian_Iran_North + 17.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.02517665 68.80% Kurd_Average + 31.20% Turkmen_Turkmenistan_B

[Sterling Archer]

His g25 results:

Target: Shahsevan_scaled
Distance: 1.4453% / 0.01445311
36.6 Iran_CHL
24.8 Anatolia_Chalcolithic
19.4 Steppe(Sintashta)
9.0 Early_Mongolia(Slab_Grave)
5.4 Caucasus
4.8 Semitic


Quite an impressive steppe percentage at almost 20%. He also check almost every Azerbaijani average )) Any idea ühy his top pop is the Iranian average instead of the Republic?
Can you give me g25 coordinates for references you used here?

[Kyp]

Quite an impressive steppe percentage at almost 20%. He also check almost every Azerbaijani average )) Any idea ühy his top pop is the Iranian average instead of the Republic?
Can you give me g25 coordinates for references you used here?

Yup he scores high Steppe.

I dont know why he is closer to Iran than to Republic. Him being Shahsevan and Talysh probably plays a part. Shahsevan I mostly associate with Iranian Azerbaijan (although they live around the Moghan border region on both sides. But he said his ancestors moved from Ardabil region to north.
But could just be due to the fact that there are more references for Iranian Azerbaijan than Republic and all of these are low sample sizes. There won't be much of a difference genetically between southern areas of Republic and Iranian Azerbaijan anyway.

Yes I will PM them to you later when i'm home.

[orhanaa]

The Turkish Alevi from the Chepni tribe from Balikesir province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 15.69
Siberian: 8.63
Northwest_African: 0.06
Southeast_Asian: 0.12
Atlantic_Med: 10.68
North_European: 8.81
South_Asian 2.63
East_African 0.92
Southwest_Asian: 11.01
East_Asian: 7.27
Caucasian: 34.02
Sub_Saharan: -

[orhanaa]

Turkish Alevi from Samsun Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 18.17
Siberian: 4.02
Northwest_African: 2.07
Southeast_Asian: 2.08
Atlantic_Med: 13
North_European: 8.02
South_Asian 2.14
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.72
East_Asian: 3.17
Caucasian: 36.62
Sub_Saharan: -

[orhanaa]

Turkish Alevi from Yozgat Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 16.47
Siberian: 3.48
Northwest_African: 1.57
Southeast_Asian: 0.95
Atlantic_Med: 13.46
North_European: 8.38
South_Asian 2.34
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 12.36
East_Asian: 5.33
Caucasian: 35.65
Sub_Saharan: -

[orhanaa]

The Turkish from the Chepni tribe from West Trabzon province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 13.58
Siberian: 3.32
Northwest_African: 1.93
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 13.02
North_European: 3.73
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 11.69
East_Asian: 1.21
Caucasian: 51.48
Sub_Saharan: -

[Arzanene]

Target: Alevi_yozgat
Distance: 1.1993% / 1.19927845 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.3 Turkmen_Iran
33.0 Greek_Cypriot
13.5 Greek_Kos
13.2 Kurd_Sorani

Target: alevi_samsun
Distance: 2.7681% / 2.76808070 | ADC: 0.5x RC
31.9 Turkmen_Iran
23.8 Greek_Rhodes
19.4 Greek_Cappadocia
12.8 Kurd_Sorani
12.1 Iranian_Central

Target: alevi_balikesir
Distance: 4.0333% / 4.03325048 | ADC: 1x RC
61.3 Turkmen_Iran
35.9 Greek_Cappadocia
2.8 Greek_Kos

Target: chepni_trabzon
Distance: 1.7294% / 1.72937432 | ADC: 0.5x RC
87.3 Greek_Pontus
8.2 Greek_Rhodes
4.5 Evenk




chepni_trabzon,13.58,3.32,1.93,0,13.02,3.73,0,0,11 .69,1.21,51.48,0
Alevi_yozgat,16.47,3.48,1.57,0.95,13.46,8.38,2.34, 0,12.36,5.33,35.65,0
alevi_samsun,18.17,4.02,2.07,2.08,13,8.02,2.14,0,1 0.72,3.17,36.62,0
alevi_balikesir,15.69,8.63,0.06,0.12,10.68,8.81,2. 63,0.92,11.01,7.27,34.02,0

[Gallop]

Doing some checking...

Father
Population
Gedrosia 5.36 Pct
Siberian 0.05 Pct
Northwest_African 4.86 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 44.42 Pct
North_European 27.5 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 1.64 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.79 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 11.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.97 Pct

Mine
Population
Gedrosia 4.91 Pct
Siberian 0.74 Pct
Northwest_African 5.1 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 44.8 Pct
North_European 26.52 Pct
South_Asian 0.06 Pct
East_African 0.71 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.16 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 13.46 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.51 Pct

[Arzanene]

Udi Results from Nij

Udi1,20.39,0.8,0,0.32,7.81,10.13,0.68,0.11,13.01,0 ,46.75,0
Udi2,22.76,0,0,0,9.33,8.41,0.6,0,11.7,1.22,45.98,0
Udi3,20.94,0,1.83,0,11.15,7.12,1.85,0,11.41,0,45.7 ,0
Udi4,20.32,0.58,0,0,10.57,8.93,0.74,0.43,11.41,0,4 7.02,0
Udi5,20.55,1.43,0,0,9.28,9.4,0,0,10.79,0.99,47.52, 0

[orhanaa]

Target: Alevi_yozgat
Distance: 1.1993% / 1.19927845 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.3 Turkmen_Iran
33.0 Greek_Cypriot
13.5 Greek_Kos
13.2 Kurd_Sorani

Target: alevi_samsun
Distance: 2.7681% / 2.76808070 | ADC: 0.5x RC
31.9 Turkmen_Iran
23.8 Greek_Rhodes
19.4 Greek_Cappadocia
12.8 Kurd_Sorani
12.1 Iranian_Central

Target: alevi_balikesir
Distance: 4.0333% / 4.03325048 | ADC: 1x RC
61.3 Turkmen_Iran
35.9 Greek_Cappadocia
2.8 Greek_Kos

Target: chepni_trabzon
Distance: 1.7294% / 1.72937432 | ADC: 0.5x RC
87.3 Greek_Pontus
8.2 Greek_Rhodes
4.5 Evenk




chepni_trabzon,13.58,3.32,1.93,0,13.02,3.73,0,0,11 .69,1.21,51.48,0
Alevi_yozgat,16.47,3.48,1.57,0.95,13.46,8.38,2.34, 0,12.36,5.33,35.65,0
alevi_samsun,18.17,4.02,2.07,2.08,13,8.02,2.14,0,1 0.72,3.17,36.62,0
alevi_balikesir,15.69,8.63,0.06,0.12,10.68,8.81,2. 63,0.92,11.01,7.27,34.02,0

You should put a slavic-like group for the Balıkesir example, and a caucasian-like group for the Samsun example, the trabzon chepni sample was probably mixed 3/2 with nearby non-chepni groups,however, the test owner does not have this information.

[orhanaa]

Zaza Alevi from Erzincan Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 23.78
Siberian: 0.38
Northwest_African: 1.33
Southeast_Asian: 0.74
Atlantic_Med: 5.84
North_European: 7.24
South_Asian: 1.77
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 15.18
East_Asian: 0.80
Caucasian: 42.79
Sub_Saharan: 0.16

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Tabriz:

Ydna: J2
mtdna: C7

Gedrosian: 22.62
Siberian: 5.16
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.94
North_European: 8.38
South_Asian 4.88
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.13
East_Asian: 2.50
Caucasian: 37.39
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Tabriz_individual
3.68324585 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.97890550 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.59512288 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.37847160 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.57864728 Dersim_Turkey
6.71793123 Turkmen_Iraq
6.76393377 Iranian_Central
7.18112805 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.20809961 Yazidi
7.26650535 Turk_Southeast
7.45103349 Kurd_Sorani
7.75488233 Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.10330797 Iranian_Fars
8.61763889 Kurd_Feyli
8.69680976 Iranian_Lur
8.75381060 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.00363260 Iranian_Khorasan
9.66784878 Turk_South
10.05850884 Iranian_Kerman
10.08882550 Turk_Central_East
10.84945621 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.37354826 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.52318098 Turk_East
11.57953799 Turk_Central_West
12.00625254 Iraqi_Baghdad

Target: Tabriz_individual
Distance: 1.3239% / 1.32388221 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.5 Azerbaijani_Iran
35.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.0 Nenets_Forest
3.2 Iranian_Central
2.2 North_Kannadi
0.3 Nganasan

[Leto]

I have a few things but cannot do the 2-way mode being on the phone.

An Afghan from Kabul (Ahmadzai), very West Asian-shifted. Over 22 percent Caucasus while the average is like 17 percent.

Gedrosia 36.02 Pct
Siberian 3.39 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.96 Pct
North_European 15.83 Pct
South_Asian 15.06 Pct
East_African 0.15 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.15 Pct
East_Asian 0.84 Pct
Caucasus 22.62 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ahmadzai
3.53564704 Pashtun_Kandahar
5.92142719 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
8.62662159 Tajik_Kabul
9.21485757 Pashtun_Tarkalani
9.48360691 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
9.68079026 Tajik_Herat
10.17553930 Kho
10.34894197 Pamiri_Ishkashim
11.36745354 Nuristani_Afghanistan
11.38841956 Pashtun_Yusafzai

Target: Ahmadzai
Distance: 1.4275% / 1.42753588 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.5 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
22.2 Pashtun_Kandahar
8.0 Lak
7.2 Dargin
2.1 Iranian_Mazandaran

Target: Ahmadzai
Distance: 1.5146% / 1.51461170 | R2P
80.9 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
19.1 Tabasaran

- - -

A Tajik (Tajikistan), partially Pamiri and apparently adopted by Westerners. She has a very close match with another older Pamiri kit.

Gedrosia 29.24 Pct
Siberian 5.13 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.16 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.01 Pct
North_European 18.41 Pct
South_Asian 9.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.02 Pct
East_Asian 8.23 Pct
Caucasus 18.43 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Maria
4.31717500 Tajik_Mountain
5.01402034 Tajik_Lowland
8.49525161 Pamiri_Shughnan
8.55057893 Pamiri_Wakhan
9.13871435 Pamiri_Rushan
9.25936823 Pamiri_Ishkashim
9.52971143 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
9.83745902 Tajik_Herat
12.59168376 Tajik_Kabul
12.99660340 Pashtun_Kandahar

Target: Maria
Distance: 0.9146% / 0.91462661 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.7 Pamiri_Shughnan
26.4 Tajik_Herat
26.3 Tajik_Mountain
3.7 Japanese
2.7 Spanish_Basque
2.2 Burusho

Target: Maria
Distance: 2.5557% / 2.55573378 | ADC: 0.5x RC
78.5 Tajik_Mountain
11.8 Pamiri_Shughnan
9.5 Burusho
0.2 Tajik_Kabul

Target: Maria
Distance: 1.7400% / 1.74004771 | R3P
80.7 Tajik_Mountain
14.7 Burusho
4.6 Irish

I don't know if the Burusho thing is accurate, it's from the original spreadsheet.

[Leto]

I have a few things but cannot do the 2-way mode being on the phone.

These are some Dagestanis living in America. A woman and her parents.

Gedrosia 25.18 Pct
Siberian 3.88 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.69 Pct
North_European 19.74 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.23 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.71 Pct
East_Asian 0.73 Pct
Caucasus 37.32 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.52 Pct

Distance to: Emily
4.37933785 Lezgin
5.25182825 Tabasaran
6.56853104 Kumyk
7.00913689 Lak
7.34166194 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.41838257 Chechen
7.88348908 Avar
8.35128733 Ingush
8.60365620 Dargin_Kubachi
8.62252283 Dargin_Kaitag

Distance to: Emily
1.98647288 80.60% Lezgin + 19.40% Turk_South
2.11077337 81.80% Lezgin + 18.20% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.14405813 81.80% Lezgin + 18.20% Turk_Central_West
2.20957423 82.20% Lezgin + 17.80% Turk_Southwest
2.23208353 81.60% Lezgin + 18.40% Turk_Central_East
2.26219555 81.20% Lezgin + 18.80% Turk_Southeast
2.28155954 82.00% Lezgin + 18.00% Turk_West_Black_Sea
2.37111688 82.60% Lezgin + 17.40% Turk_Northwest
2.39839685 63.80% Avar + 36.20% Azerbaijani_Republic
2.40132812 9.80% Jordanian_Christian + 90.20% Lezgin

Target: Emily
Distance: 1.2123% / 1.21229100 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.0 Lezgin
10.4 Kumyk
8.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.2 Bedouin
1.8 Nganasan


Father

Gedrosia 24.82 Pct
Siberian 2.68 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.23 Pct
North_European 21.36 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.13 Pct
Southwest_Asian 5.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.98 Pct
Caucasus 42.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.19 Pct

Distance to: Emirullah
4.15695802 Chechen
5.87304861 Ingush
6.42853794 Lezgin
6.73760343 Kumyk
6.78116509 Tabasaran
6.95309284 Lak
7.67003259 Dargin_Kubachi
8.63180746 Avar
8.85718353 Balkar
9.09116054 Dargin_Kaitag

Distance to: Emirullah
3.16761767 32.60% Abkhazian + 67.40% Avar
3.18856673 67.80% Lezgin + 32.20% Ossetian_South
3.26227559 73.00% Avar + 27.00% Georgian_West
3.43500041 26.80% Abkhazian + 73.20% Lak
3.44298606 59.60% Avar + 40.40% Ossetian_South
3.44880414 70.00% Chechen + 30.00% Lezgin
3.47817340 24.60% Abkhazian + 75.40% Lezgin
3.49704404 21.80% Georgian_West + 78.20% Lak
3.61075494 64.40% Lezgin + 35.60% Ossetian
3.61475578 72.00% Dargin_Kaitag + 28.00% Georgian_West

Target: Emirullah
Distance: 2.5393% / 2.53925940
65.8 Dargin_Kubachi
25.6 Abkhazian
3.4 Iranian_Mazandaran
3.4 Kuwait2
1.8 Khanty


Mother

Gedrosia 24.41 Pct
Siberian 3.96 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.42 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.39 Pct
North_European 20.77 Pct
South_Asian 1.77 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.6 Pct
East_Asian 0.2 Pct
Caucasus 36.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Rasyat
4.36490550 Tabasaran
4.55129652 Lezgin
6.01113134 Lak
6.39681952 Kumyk
6.84358824 Avar
7.37145847 Dargin_Kaitag
7.50092661 Chechen
7.94188894 Dargin_Kubachi
8.50193507 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.58828854 Dargin

Distance to: Rasyat
1.87273626 32.40% Azerbaijani_Iran + 67.60% Dargin_Kaitag
1.87395633 72.00% Avar + 28.00% Turk_Southeast
2.10569148 71.80% Avar + 28.20% Turk_South
2.12895045 73.20% Dargin_Kaitag + 26.80% Turkmen_Iraq
2.16504059 81.20% Lezgin + 18.80% Turk_Northwest
2.19130920 33.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 67.00% Dargin_Kaitag
2.20001438 31.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 68.20% Dargin_Kaitag
2.21103874 67.00% Dargin + 33.00% Turk_Southeast
2.22902808 72.80% Avar + 27.20% Turk_Central_East
2.25819485 70.00% Avar + 30.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: Rasyat
Distance: 0.9440% / 0.94403934 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.8 Tabasaran
9.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.3 Lezgin
3.8 Balkan_Gypsy
3.2 Saudi
1.9 Nganasan

Target: Rasyat
Distance: 2.1158% / 2.11583486 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.8 Lezgin
18.1 Turk_Northwest
17.1 Tabasaran

[Leto]

Half Pashtun, half Caucasian (likely Circassian/Kabardin)

Gedrosia 27.84 Pct
Siberian 3.32 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.67 Pct
North_European 16.82 Pct
South_Asian 9.57 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.5 Pct
East_Asian 2.84 Pct
Caucasus 30.44 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Marina
0.81035215 42.40% Circassian + 57.60% Pashtun_Kandahar
0.93390721 43.40% Abazin + 56.60% Pashtun_Kandahar
1.19585762 43.00% Balkar + 57.00% Pashtun_Kandahar
1.24847634 43.00% Karachay + 57.00% Pashtun_Kandahar
1.31138851 44.80% Kabardin + 55.20% Pashtun_Kandahar
1.46834867 49.60% Chechen + 50.40% Tajik_Kabul
1.48594189 38.20% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 61.80% Pamiri_Ishkashim
1.48982418 62.80% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 37.20% Turk_Ahiska
1.56334995 49.00% Kumyk + 51.00% Pashtun_Kandahar
1.62303079 33.00% Laz + 67.00% Pamiri_Ishkashim

Target: Marina
Distance: 0.9006% / 0.90057979 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.3 Tajik_Kabul
32.2 Lak
16.0 Iranian_Khorasan
11.8 Karachay
2.7 Balkan_Gypsy


Uzbek

Gedrosia 14.58 Pct
Siberian 18.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.96 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.16 Pct
North_European 16.58 Pct
South_Asian 1.31 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.6 Pct
East_Asian 22.1 Pct
Caucasus 17.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: M.A.
5.32919318 Turkmen_Afghanistan
6.09999180 Uzbeki
8.88619154 Nogai_Stavropol
8.97258045 Uzbek
10.32189905 Karakalpak
12.32705155 Uyghur_Xinjiang
12.96548109 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
13.00846647 Turkmen_Turkmenistan
13.28354621 Nogai_Astrakhan
15.21655020 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe

Distance to: M.A.
2.17061450 68.40% Kazakh + 31.60% Lezgin
2.60329746 68.20% Kazakh + 31.80% Tabasaran
2.89170486 78.80% Karakalpak + 21.20% Lezgin
2.93720687 23.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 77.00% Nogai_Astrakhan
2.94763281 21.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 78.40% Karakalpak
3.04928953 68.80% Kazakh + 31.20% Lak
3.08249262 31.60% Avar + 68.40% Kazakh
3.23464739 78.80% Karakalpak + 21.20% Tabasaran
3.26375817 18.40% Lezgin + 81.60% Nogai_Stavropol
3.29194259 31.40% Dargin_Kaitag + 68.60% Kazakh

Target: M.A.
Distance: 2.6149% / 2.61486357 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.2 Turkmen_Afghanistan
32.9 Karakalpak
9.4 Nogai
8.2 Nogai_Stavropol
2.3 Kuwait2

[Leto]

Another Dagestani

Gedrosia 25.33 Pct
Siberian 2.7 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.53 Pct
North_European 21.62 Pct
South_Asian 1.31 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.35 Pct
East_Asian 0.74 Pct
Caucasus 37.42 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Arsen
2.16464778 Tabasaran
3.03100643 Lezgin
4.25962440 Lak
5.31194879 Avar
5.92952781 Dargin_Kubachi
6.02186848 Dargin_Kaitag
6.37747599 Kumyk
6.55751477 Chechen
6.90883492 Dargin
8.50765538 Ingush

Distance to: Arsen
0.74999200 90.00% Tabasaran + 10.00% Turk_Southeast
0.77770440 29.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 70.40% Dargin
0.83777133 11.00% Azerbaijani_Iran + 89.00% Tabasaran
0.86374393 10.80% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 89.20% Tabasaran
0.86846872 91.40% Tabasaran + 8.60% Turkmen_Iraq
0.89236467 11.20% Azerbaijani_Republic + 88.80% Tabasaran
0.89348096 30.40% Azerbaijani_Republic + 69.60% Dargin
0.90591237 90.20% Tabasaran + 9.80% Turk_South
0.92034453 7.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 92.80% Tabasaran
0.95394568 90.60% Tabasaran + 9.40% Turk_Central_East

Target: Arsen
Distance: 1.0795% / 1.07949364 | ADC: 1x RC
83.1 Tabasaran
16.9 Azerbaijani_Dagestan


A relative of Arsen's

Gedrosia 23.84 Pct
Siberian 3.05 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.06 Pct
North_European 24.84 Pct
South_Asian 2.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.33 Pct
East_Asian 2.19 Pct
Caucasus 35.18 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Soltan
4.77167685 Dargin_Kaitag
4.89978571 Tabasaran
5.10583979 Avar
5.15094166 Lak
5.44321596 Dargin
6.36569713 Dargin_Kubachi
7.17292130 Lezgin
8.79262191 Kumyk
9.45506214 Chechen
11.65892362 Kabardin

Distance to: Soltan
2.35941586 86.60% Lak + 13.40% Tatar_Lipka
2.56074112 13.20% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 86.80% Lak
2.61110766 89.60% Tabasaran + 10.40% Tatar_Kazan
2.62533221 87.80% Tabasaran + 12.20% Tatar_Lipka
2.67942121 10.00% Bashkir_North + 90.00% Tabasaran
2.69380537 80.40% Dargin + 19.60% Turk_Northwest
2.72811336 90.40% Tabasaran + 9.60% Tatar_Mishar
2.76660401 9.80% Bashkir_Central + 90.20% Tabasaran
2.77589238 21.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 78.80% Dargin
2.78037495 16.40% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 83.60% Dargin_Kubachi

Target: Soltan
Distance: 0.7443% / 0.74434912 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.6 Dargin
14.1 Nogai
8.4 Balkan_Gypsy
5.6 Tabasaran
2.3 Italian_Veneto


An unrelated person

Gedrosia 22.35 Pct
Siberian 4.96 Pct
Northwest_African 0.24 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.33 Pct
North_European 21.92 Pct
South_Asian 1.68 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.49 Pct
East_Asian 1.49 Pct
Caucasus 37.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Madina
5.10349880 Tabasaran
5.33951309 Kumyk
6.11874170 Lak
6.59707511 Chechen
6.98820435 Lezgin
7.15726903 Dargin_Kaitag
7.30310893 Avar
7.83117488 Dargin_Kubachi
7.85445733 Kabardin
8.30647940 Dargin

Distance to: Madina
2.49334113 75.00% Lak + 25.00% Turk_Northwest
2.65264823 75.60% Lak + 24.40% Turk_Southwest
2.71433654 69.20% Dargin + 30.80% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.77864098 69.60% Dargin_Kubachi + 30.40% Turk_Northwest
2.87363672 75.60% Lak + 24.40% Turk_West_Black_Sea
2.88685672 85.00% Ingush + 15.00% Udmurt
2.90530605 48.40% Dargin + 51.60% Kabardin
2.92695423 73.00% Dargin_Kaitag + 27.00% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.94154127 16.20% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 83.80% Ingush
2.97611571 70.20% Dargin_Kubachi + 29.80% Turk_Southwest

Target: Madina
Distance: 1.6568% / 1.65681202 | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.6 Tabasaran
25.6 Kabardin
4.6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.2 Nenets_Tundra

[Sterling Archer]

Azerbaijani from Tovuz and Guba. Grandmother from Guba was adopted, and according to the results, she is Russian.

Gedrosia 17.95 Pct
Siberian 2.08 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.42 Pct
Atlantic_Med 10.81 Pct
North_European 16.88 Pct
South_Asian 3.7 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.67 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Caucasus 33.01 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Az_rus
1.81473872 22.20% Russian_Kursk + 77.80% Turkmen_Iraq
1.83476221 22.40% Russian_Oryol + 77.60% Turkmen_Iraq
1.86473822 21.60% Polish_Mazovia + 78.40% Turkmen_Iraq
1.87338782 77.40% Turkmen_Iraq + 22.60% Ukrainian
1.87472039 21.60% Russian_Smolensk + 78.40% Turkmen_Iraq
1.87807993 21.60% Belorussian + 78.40% Turkmen_Iraq
1.89294658 22.20% Russian_Voronezh + 77.80% Turkmen_Iraq
1.91147965 21.20% Belarusian_Minsk + 78.80% Turkmen_Iraq
1.92373979 21.20% Russian_Tver + 78.80% Turkmen_Iraq
1.93726751 22.40% Russian_Ryazan + 77.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.03914964 21.60% Russian + 78.40% Turkmen_Iraq
2.06845698 21.80% Polish + 78.20% Turkmen_Iraq
2.13089328 19.20% Lithuanian + 80.80% Turkmen_Iraq
2.22962809 22.40% Mordovian + 77.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.23090901 19.40% Estonian + 80.60% Turkmen_Iraq

[Kyp]

Some new Iranian results:

Khorasani:

Gedrosian: 24.99
Siberian: 6.66
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.97
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian 6.23
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.90
East_Asian: 4.94
Caucasian: 30.97
SSA: 1.72

From Mahabad, West Azerbaijan
Ancestry: 75% Kurdish 25%Azeri

Gedrosian: 24.11
Siberian: 1.84
Northwest_African: 0.86
Southeast_Asian: 0.01
Atlantic_Med: 6.96
North_European: 8.63
South_Asian 3.70
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.48
East_Asian: 2.50
Caucasian: 37.90
SSA: 0.00

From isfahan:

Gedrosian: 24.43
Siberian: 2.85
Northwest_African: 1.01
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 3.07
North_European: 8.91
South_Asian 7.20
East_African 0.41
Southwest_Asian: 15.92
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 36.20
SSA: 0.00

From Isfahan:

Gedrosian: 22.95
Siberian: 1.23
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.14
North_European: 11.05
South_Asian 6.09
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.80
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 39.06
SSA: 0.69

50% Azeri 50% Persian:

Gedrosian: 23.18
Siberian: 3.24
Northwest_African: 1.46
Southeast_Asian: 1.06
Atlantic_Med: 9.40
North_European: 7.91
South_Asian 1.99
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.47
East_Asian: 1.80
Caucasian: 38.47
SSA: 0.69

[Leto]

Pamiri (new, uploaded last month)

Gedrosia 34.09 Pct
Siberian 6.76 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.31 Pct
North_European 23.5 Pct
South_Asian 11.57 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.95 Pct
East_Asian 2.34 Pct
Caucasus 14.47 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Begim
4.67932687 Pamiri_Ishkashim
4.82494560 Pamiri_Shughnan
5.66528905 Pamiri_Rushan
6.06041253 Pamiri_Wakhan
10.98520824 Tajik_Lowland
11.99931665 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
12.86242201 Pashtun_Kandahar
13.08089446 Tajik_Mountain
13.59506160 Kho
14.92793355 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa

Distance to: Begim
3.77551086 7.00% Meena + 93.00% Pamiri_Shughnan
3.77812963 15.00% Haryana_Ror + 85.00% Pamiri_Shughnan
3.91405804 11.20% Burusho + 88.80% Pamiri_Shughnan
3.91510717 88.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 11.20% Punjabi_Jatt
3.93634694 9.20% Meena + 90.80% Pamiri_Rushan
3.93705335 15.40% Burusho + 84.60% Pamiri_Rushan
3.95365217 93.60% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 6.40% Udmurt
3.97534833 19.20% Haryana_Ror + 80.80% Pamiri_Rushan
3.98689634 6.20% Kshatriya + 93.80% Pamiri_Shughnan
4.00180619 5.40% Iyengar + 94.60% Pamiri_Shughnan

Target: Begim
Distance: 2.2097% / 2.20967899
59.0 Pamiri_Rushan
20.0 Kalash
9.8 Burusho
4.3 Selkup
4.2 Irish
2.2 Udmurt
0.5 Balochi

[Arzanene]

Armenian_Adana_Ayntab,16.43,0,0.76,0,12.29,4.08,0, 0,16.01,0.39,50.03,0
Armenian_Marash,15.48,0,1.31,0,12.2,4.28,0.81,0.22 ,15.85,0,49.85,0
Armenian_Urfa,17.62,0,1.43,0.58,10.92,4.73,0,0,15. 01,0,49.66,0
Armenian_Palu_Sivas,16.83,0,1.38,0,11.41,4.67,0.52 ,0,14.39,0,50.81,0
Armenian_Gaziantep,18.09,0.15,1.32,0.2,12.65,2.11, 0,0,15.89,0.22,49.38,0
Armenian_Kiğı2,17.47,0,1,0,12.52,1.85,1.19,0,15.17 ,0,50.81,0

[orhanaa]

Turkish Alevi from Çorum Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 15.19
Siberian: 4.54
Northwest_African: 1.76
Southeast_Asian: 0.96
Atlantic_Med: 10.78
North_European: 11.07
South_Asian 3.24
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.98
East_Asian: 3.87
Caucasian: 37.62
Sub_Saharan: -

[orhanaa]

Arab Alawite from Adana Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 14.55
Siberian: 0.64
Northwest_African: 4.26
Southeast_Asian: 0.48
Atlantic_Med: 17.3
North_European: 0.51
South_Asian: 0.46
East_African: 1.13
Southwest_Asian: 21.37
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 39.31
Sub_Saharan: -

[Oturan Boğa]

My Turkish(Balıkesir) match.

Gedrosia 10.01 Pct
Siberian 10.54 Pct
Northwest_African 0.19 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.92 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.07 Pct
North_European 21.51 Pct
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.13 Pct
East_Asian 8.01 Pct
Caucasus 28.2 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[placebo]

My Turkish(Balıkesir) match.

Gedrosia 10.01 Pct
Siberian 10.54 Pct
Northwest_African 0.19 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.92 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.07 Pct
North_European 21.51 Pct
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.13 Pct
East_Asian 8.01 Pct
Caucasus 28.2 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

are you fully from balıkesir? or do you have some tatar ancestor? i know there are tatars in balıkesir, some of my relatives are partly tatars from balıkesir.

[Oturan Boğa]

are you fully from balıkesir? or do you have some tatar ancestor?

Eşleşme Balıkesir'den panpa ben 2/3 Ankara 1/3 Boluluyum.

[placebo]

Eşleşme Balıkesir'den panpa ben 2/3 Ankara 1/3 Boluluyum.

match kısmını hiç okumamışım şimdi gördüm :D yüksek ihtimal biraz tatarlık var arkadaşta

[Oturan Boğa]

match kısmını hiç okumamışım şimdi gördüm :D yüksek ihtimal biraz tatarlık var arkadaşta

Olması muhtemel ama yanılmıyorsam Anadolu Türklüğü de var. Bu işi daha iyi bilen biri yardımcı olursa sevinirim. :)

Distance to: Kişi
2.53240659 82.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 17.60% Khakass
2.59670101 81.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 18.60% Shor
2.78821742 35.40% Bashkir_Central + 64.60% Turk_West_Black_Sea
2.94279641 19.40% Altaian_Chelkan + 80.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
2.99845212 75.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.20% Tatar_Siberia
3.04499823 28.20% Bashkir_Central + 71.80% Turk_Northwest
3.07930403 80.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 19.80% Tubalar
3.08602058 85.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 14.40% Tuvan
3.14359868 52.20% Bashkir_Central + 47.80% Greek_Cappadocia
3.15051164 16.60% Altaian_Kizhi + 83.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.22758846 32.20% Bashkir_North + 67.80% Turk_Southwest
3.22840065 27.40% Bashkir_North + 72.60% Turk_Northwest
3.31123600 39.60% Bashkir_North + 60.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.34422479 22.20% Mari + 77.80% Turk_Northwest
3.36227947 86.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 13.20% Itelmen
3.36821791 16.60% Altaian_Telengit + 83.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.38927122 33.20% Bashkir_Central + 66.80% Turk_Southwest
3.39075908 13.00% Chukchi + 87.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.43280416 87.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 13.00% Koryak
3.46080645 22.00% Saami_Sweden + 78.00% Turk_Southwest
3.50040084 38.60% Bashkir_Central + 61.40% Turk_Central_West
3.52294001 28.20% Chuvash + 71.80% Turk_Southwest
3.52907116 23.60% Chuvash + 76.40% Turk_Northwest
3.55546395 26.40% Mari + 73.60% Turk_Southwest
3.55562083 56.80% Bashkir_Central + 43.20% Greek_Pontus

[placebo]

Olması muhtemel ama yanılmıyorsam Anadolu Türklüğü de var. Bu işi daha iyi bilen biri yardımcı olursa sevinirim. :)

Distance to: Kişi
2.53240659 82.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 17.60% Khakass
2.59670101 81.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 18.60% Shor
2.78821742 35.40% Bashkir_Central + 64.60% Turk_West_Black_Sea
2.94279641 19.40% Altaian_Chelkan + 80.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
2.99845212 75.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.20% Tatar_Siberia
3.04499823 28.20% Bashkir_Central + 71.80% Turk_Northwest
3.07930403 80.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 19.80% Tubalar
3.08602058 85.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 14.40% Tuvan
3.14359868 52.20% Bashkir_Central + 47.80% Greek_Cappadocia
3.15051164 16.60% Altaian_Kizhi + 83.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.22758846 32.20% Bashkir_North + 67.80% Turk_Southwest
3.22840065 27.40% Bashkir_North + 72.60% Turk_Northwest
3.31123600 39.60% Bashkir_North + 60.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.34422479 22.20% Mari + 77.80% Turk_Northwest
3.36227947 86.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 13.20% Itelmen
3.36821791 16.60% Altaian_Telengit + 83.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.38927122 33.20% Bashkir_Central + 66.80% Turk_Southwest
3.39075908 13.00% Chukchi + 87.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.43280416 87.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 13.00% Koryak
3.46080645 22.00% Saami_Sweden + 78.00% Turk_Southwest
3.50040084 38.60% Bashkir_Central + 61.40% Turk_Central_West
3.52294001 28.20% Chuvash + 71.80% Turk_Southwest
3.52907116 23.60% Chuvash + 76.40% Turk_Northwest
3.55546395 26.40% Mari + 73.60% Turk_Southwest
3.55562083 56.80% Bashkir_Central + 43.20% Greek_Pontus

yok zaten yarı yarıya anlamında dedim yarı kuzeybatı anadolu yarı kırım tatarı gibi geldi.

ama ben de bilemiyorum tam.

[orhanaa]

Kurdish Alevi from Erzurum Province, Turkey

Gedrosian: 24.07
Siberian: 0.33
Northwest_African: 1.72
Southeast_Asian: 1.52
Atlantic_Med: 9.88
North_European: 6.81
South_Asian: 3.18
East_African: 0.30
Southwest_Asian: 13.41
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 38.77
Sub_Saharan: -

[Dorian]

Off topic but does anyone have crimean tatar kit numbers?

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Mianeh (Iran):

Gedrosian: 21.13
Siberian: 2.86
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.66
Atlantic_Med: 7.66
North_European: 11.02
South_Asian 4.14
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.90
East_Asian: 3.36
Caucasian: 37.05
SSA: 0.21

Distance to: Azeri_Mianeh
3.67845076 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.06829202 Azerbaijani_Republic
4.81259805 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.95099992 Turk_Southeast
6.66179405 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.16763559 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.94504248 Turkmen_Iraq
8.03961442 Turk_South
8.14122227 Iranian_Central
8.17949876 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
8.29142328 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.30853778 Yazidi
8.48917546 Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.51862078 Turk_Central_East
8.77775598 Kurd_Sorani
9.56402635 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.57141578 Turk_Central_West
9.57630931 Iranian_Khorasan
9.61943346 Iranian_Fars
10.51064223 Kurd_Feyli
10.85028110 Iranian_Lur
10.89641684 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.99234279 Turk_East
11.18739022 Turk_Southwest
11.22140366 Iranian_Kerman

Target: Azeri_Mianeh
Distance: 2.0712% / 2.07116188 | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.9 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.0 Turk_Northwest
7.3 Kumyk
6.8 Tajik_Lowland

[Leto]

Before I vanish into obscurity again, here is some random stuff. Sorry for not running the oracles, I'm just too lazy for that shit

These are Turkmens (they match old academic Turkmen kits)

Two close relatives

Gedrosia 15.6 Pct
Siberian 15.97 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.17 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.24 Pct
North_European 18.47 Pct
South_Asian 3.02 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.26 Pct
East_Asian 17.81 Pct
Caucasus 17.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Gedrosia 17.58 Pct
Siberian 15.69 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.47 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.95 Pct
North_European 16.92 Pct
South_Asian 4.42 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.52 Pct
East_Asian 17.13 Pct
Caucasus 16.26 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.06 Pct


Gedrosia 17.85 Pct
Siberian 17 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.95 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.61 Pct
North_European 13.83 Pct
South_Asian 5.39 Pct
East_African 0.96 Pct
Southwest_Asian 5.13 Pct
East_Asian 16.56 Pct
Caucasus 15.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.07 Pct

Gedrosia 12.61 Pct
Siberian 18.16 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.45 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.67 Pct
North_European 13.3 Pct
South_Asian 2.81 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.4 Pct
East_Asian 18.21 Pct
Caucasus 21.39 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

- - -

Lak Dagestani

Gedrosia 27.7 Pct
Siberian 3.51 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.48 Pct
North_European 28.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.45 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 35.32 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.49 Pct

Iranian (unspecified)

Gedrosia 29.16 Pct
Siberian 1.17 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.49 Pct
North_European 8.53 Pct
South_Asian 4.36 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.07 Pct
East_Asian 1.93 Pct
Caucasus 40.14 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.15 Pct

Tajik from Zarafshan

Gedrosia 24.58 Pct
Siberian 6.86 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.29 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.49 Pct
North_European 20.24 Pct
South_Asian 8.15 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.56 Pct
East_Asian 8.48 Pct
Caucasus 20.35 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

50% Afghan Tajik, 50% Pashtun

Gedrosia 34.23 Pct
Siberian 2.85 Pct
Northwest_African 0.1 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.53 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.52 Pct
North_European 16.36 Pct
South_Asian 17.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.93 Pct
East_Asian 4.08 Pct
Caucasus 16.65 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

- - -

Buryat

Gedrosia 4.23 Pct
Siberian 43.86 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.91 Pct
Atlantic_Med -
North_European 5.68 Pct
South_Asian 0.6 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 42.9 Pct
Caucasus 1.83 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Some kind of native Siberian, I don't know the exact ethnicity, the name is just ethnic Russian

Gedrosia 3.09 Pct
Siberian 41.37 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.71 Pct
Atlantic_Med 0.47 Pct
North_European 10.71 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.97 Pct
East_Asian 39.67 Pct
Caucasus -
Sub_Saharan -

Mongolian

Gedrosia 4.33 Pct
Siberian 32.89 Pct
Northwest_African 0.74 Pct
Southeast_Asian 5.14 Pct
Atlantic_Med 0.75 Pct
North_European 4.86 Pct
South_Asian 1.42 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.68 Pct
East_Asian 47.71 Pct
Caucasus 1.46 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Hazara

Gedrosia 17.53 Pct
Siberian 17.19 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.57 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.28 Pct
North_European 9.68 Pct
South_Asian 8.08 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.88 Pct
East_Asian 27.03 Pct
Caucasus 10.77 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Sora]

....

Amazing, Leto! Results look so fine and colorful :)

I also wonder mixed results such as Russian+Kazakh, Tatar+Ukranian, Nogai+Uyghur etc. Do you have any of them?

[Sterling Archer]

Finally a Tat result from Azerbaijan. All ancestors of this person are Tats from Khizi, Azerbaijan.

Gedrosia 22.02 Pct
Siberian 1.07 Pct
Northwest_African 1.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.54 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.49 Pct
North_European 12.52 Pct
South_Asian 2.08 Pct
East_African 0.06 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.03 Pct
East_Asian 1.89 Pct
Caucasus 41.18 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Tat
3.85045452 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.65438503 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.84170352 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.84439903 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.67711015 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.83108337 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
7.17584141 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.37837380 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.62813421 Turk_Southeast
8.69955746 Yazidi
9.02170161 Turk_East
9.02471606 Kurd_Sorani
9.16894760 Iranian_Zoroastrian
9.62963135 Iranian_Central
9.76515233 Turkmen_Iraq
9.83441915 Turk_Central_East
10.11096435 Ingush
10.13237879 Kurd_Feyli
10.30495027 Kumyk
10.76097115 Turk_South
10.86037753 Adyghe
11.25849457 Iranian_Lur
11.31925351 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.62218138 Abazin
11.72480703 Kabardin

Distance to: Tat
1.70986316 83.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 16.60% Kurdish_Jew
1.77401632 81.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 18.60% Azerbaijani_Jew
1.78240875 84.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 15.80% Iraqi_Jew
1.81055135 17.80% Assyrian_South + 82.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.83511766 18.00% Assyrian_North + 82.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.85557861 44.60% Chechen + 55.40% Turkmen_Iraq
1.87291930 17.40% Assyrian_West + 82.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.88168522 82.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 17.40% Mandean
1.90543842 39.40% Kumyk + 60.60% Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
1.97924347 41.80% Balkar + 58.20% Kurd_Sorani
1.98559679 49.00% Ingush + 51.00% Turkmen_Iraq
1.99505199 43.00% Circassian + 57.00% Kurd_Sorani
2.13710144 36.00% Balkar + 64.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.13786327 43.40% Abazin + 56.60% Kurd_Sorani
2.14668675 88.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 11.80% Palestinian_Christian
2.15387716 88.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 11.40% Syrian_Christian
2.16437768 43.20% Kabardin + 56.80% Kurd_Sorani
2.17393603 88.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 11.20% Jordanian_Christian
2.19265649 87.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 12.80% Lebanese_Christian
2.19571683 17.00% Armenian_West + 83.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.21338689 40.40% Kumyk + 59.60% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.22364396 58.60% Ingush + 41.40% Iraqi_Baghdad
2.24724585 40.80% Balkar + 59.20% Yazidi
2.29881786 43.20% Karachay + 56.80% Kurd_Sorani
2.30211754 82.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 18.00% Iraqi_Baghdad

[shuzam87]

Was lookig through the matches of another person (trying to help him figure out his ancestry) and found this individual. Presumably from Turkey (just put Ilkay as his name). Y-DNA is listed as O-M95 but I don't see much Xi Jinping in his results

Gedrosia 23.8 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Northwest_African 0.7 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.36 Pct
North_European 8.41 Pct
South_Asian 1.23 Pct
East_African 0.47 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.78 Pct
East_Asian 0.77 Pct
Caucasus 43.39 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ilkay
2.63058929 Zaza
3.49509657 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.16237913 Kurd_Adygea
4.41013605 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.47466200 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.79033678 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.18558001 Yazidi
6.37370379 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.76334976 Kurd_Sorani
7.08218187 Azerbaijani

Target: Ilkay
Distance: 1.2852% / 1.28522037 | ADC: 0.5x RC
32.9 Zaza
31.3 Udi_Azerbaijan
28.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Ilkay
Distance: 1.4845% / 1.48445981 | ADC: 1x RC
43.3 Talysh_Azerbaijan
36.9 Udi_Azerbaijan
19.8 Zaza

Distance to: Ilkay
1.22315457 13.00% Ossetian_South + 87.00% Zaza
1.35638207 12.40% Abkhazian + 87.60% Zaza
1.37413489 18.40% Georgian_Svan + 81.60% Kurd_Kurmanji
1.41121894 10.60% Georgian_Svan + 89.40% Zaza
1.47577716 12.00% Kumyks + 88.00% Zaza
1.48009287 21.00% Abkhazian + 79.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
1.48609033 19.00% Georgian_Gurian + 81.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
1.53138747 12.40% Ossetian + 87.60% Zaza
1.56191151 13.20% Adyghe + 86.80% Zaza
1.56312722 19.40% Abkhazian + 80.60% Kurd_Adygea

That's interesting and rare. It's my first time seeing O-M95 in Turks btw.

I have also seen Turk who tested O-F8 and O-F706 from the previous 23andme Reddit and forum before. This guy from Turkey who got O-F8 as Ydna and W6 as mtDNA: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/jvhck3/updated_result_from_centralnortheast_turkey/

There are also people from Russia who tested under the O-M95 subclade before on Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y68888/

[shuzam87]

[/B]u;7089812]@Leto as far I know(i once made a y-dna map if Turkey lol) there is one person with haplogroup O in Tunceli. Also it seems this haplogroup is existing, even it is very rare, among Anatolian Turks. On the other hand i never saw haplogroup C in Turkey. We need more samples but I carefully claim that this is not of Mongolian origin, it seems they didn’t left any genetic trace in Anatolia(even not Y-Dna).

Like these two Turkish samples from the journal research article "The genetic structure of the Turkish population":

SRS8752578/TR-N24
Gedmatch Kit Number: KT9843959
Ydna: O-Y14462 https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y14462/ [/B] Mtdna: T1a1 https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1a1/

Gedrosia 15.15 Pct
Siberian 4.62 Pct
Northwest_African 1.17 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.87 Pct
North_European 10.27 Pct
South_Asian 1.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.56 Pct
East_Asian 5.38 Pct
Caucasus 36.6 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.34 Pct

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Dodecad @ 10.538938
2 Turks_Behar @ 10.674367
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 16.447598
4 Lebanese_Behar @ 17.314287
5 Kurd_Dodecad @ 17.827120
6 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 18.000826
7 Iranian_Dodecad @ 18.051088
8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 18.573223
9 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.083956
10 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 19.156813
11 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 19.490728
12 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.605207
13 Iranians_Behar @ 20.129820
14 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.137522
15 Syrians_Behar @ 20.193918
16 Cypriots_Behar @ 20.440783
17 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 20.737528
18 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 20.877165
19 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.922476
20 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 21.280399

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar +50% Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 4.848722


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar +25% O_Italian_Dodecad +25% Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.170918


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.064093
2 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iraq_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.148623
3 Assyrian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.167075
4 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.170918
5 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.219484
6 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.221625
7 Assyrian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.296650
8 Assyrian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.297603
9 C_Italian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.306015
10 Armenian_Dodecad + Iraq_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.306782
11 Armenian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.316679
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.337570
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.356321
14 Assyrian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.376888
15 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.407620
16 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.569040
17 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.613130
18 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.629331
19 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.633304
20 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.680898

SRS8752205/TR-C16
Gedmatch Kit Number: FS1578762
Ydna: O-MF87972 https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-MF87972/ Mtdna: T1b4 https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1b4/

Gedrosia 13.01 Pct
Siberian 1.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.82 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.73 Pct
North_European 9 Pct
South_Asian 1.06 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.7 Pct
East_Asian 3.21 Pct
Caucasus 46.58 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.43 Pct

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Dodecad @ 3.465718
2 Turks_Behar @ 4.046715
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 11.712509
4 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 12.058392
5 Armenian_Dodecad @ 12.435893
6 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 12.757170
7 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 13.235887
8 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 13.502331
9 Cypriots_Behar @ 14.055245
10 Lebanese_Behar @ 14.555731
11 Druze_HGDP @ 14.771879
12 Armenians_Behar @ 15.114288
13 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 16.000877
14 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 16.213833
15 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 17.271379
16 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 17.766714
17 Kurd_Dodecad @ 18.338299
18 Iranian_Dodecad @ 18.730408
19 Syrians_Behar @ 18.964449
20 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 19.443567

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish_Dodecad +50% Turks_Behar @ 3.318744


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenians_15_Yunusbayev +25% Nogais_Yunusbayev +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.683592


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Georgians_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.154946
2 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.163674
3 C_Italian_Dodecad + Georgians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.187079
4 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.198841
5 Armenian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.236904
6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.242605
7 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Samaritians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.267072
8 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.268383
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.287608
10 Georgians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.291774
11 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.306846
12 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.311067
13 Armenian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.323125
14 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.335863
15 Armenian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.348315
16 Iraq_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.351896
17 Armenian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.351982
18 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.378908
19 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.379845
20 Armenian_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.380053

They all seem to be sharing a common ancestor with the other Chinese samples.

[Sora]

That's interesting and rare. It's my first time seeing O-M95 in Turks btw.

I have also seen Turk who tested O-F8 and O-F706 from the previous 23andme Reddit and forum before. This guy from Turkey who got O-F8 as Ydna and W6 as mtDNA: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...theast_turkey/

There are also people from Russia who tested under the O-M95 subclade before on Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y68888/

Seriously interesting! I wonder their actual province they're from in Turkey

Btw, I recognized you from somewhere but couldn't remember

[Mejgusu]

Seriously interesting! I wonder their actual province they're from in Turkey

Btw, I recognized you from somewhere but couldn't remember

First one could be from Central parts, second one is indeed interesting having low Gedrosia, otherwise I would surely say he is from NE-Turkey.

[shuzam87]

Seriously interesting! I wonder their actual province they're from in Turkey

Btw, I recognized you from somewhere but couldn't remember

Prob from Anthrogenica :thumb001: As for the two Turkish DNA samples, the first guy was from Northern Turkey and the second guy was from Central Turkey. Unfortunately, I forgot where is the O-F706 Turkish guy from again but I did save his 23andme result:

113200

113201

113202

[Arzanene]

Target: SRS8752578
Distance: 1.5619% / 1.56187951 | ADC: 0.5x RC
32.3 Turkmen_Turkmenistan
31.3 Greek_Cappadocia
22.3 Greek_Kos
10.1 Kurd_Sorani
4.0 Circassian


Target: SRS8752578
Distance: 1.5891% / 1.58906859 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.7 Turkmen_Iran
32.6 Greek_Cappadocia
23.5 Greek_Kos
0.2 Circassian


Target: Tat_khizi
Distance: 1.9951% / 1.99505199 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.0 Kurd_Sorani
43.0 Circassian

Target: Tat_khizi
Distance: 1.1432% / 1.14324201 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.8 Kurd_Sorani
17.0 Adyghe
15.9 Circassian
13.2 Chechen
11.7 Iranian_Zoroastrian
4.1 Yemenite_Mahra
2.3 Greek_Fournoi



Target: Azeri_mianeh
Distance: 1.1393% / 1.13927886 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.6 Iranian_Central
26.6 Circassian
10.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
7.3 Greek_Crete
4.2 Kuwait2
0.5 Palestinian_Christian

Target: Azeri_mianeh
Distance: 2.1817% / 2.18166318 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.1 Iranian_Central
18.1 Circassian
13.4 Greek_Crete
11.4 Turkmen_Turkmenistan

[Kyp]

That's interesting and rare. It's my first time seeing O-M95 in Turks btw.

I have also seen Turk who tested O-F8 and O-F706 from the previous 23andme Reddit and forum before. This guy from Turkey who got O-F8 as Ydna and W6 as mtDNA: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/jvhck3/updated_result_from_centralnortheast_turkey/

There are also people from Russia who tested under the O-M95 subclade before on Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y68888/

There are quite a few Azerbaijanis with ydna O.

For example this one is paternally from Tabriz and maternally Persian from Teheran, his Y-DNA is O2a1c2:

Gedrosian: 24.33
Siberian: 3.13
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.30
Atlantic_Med: 7.38
North_European: 8.28
South_Asian 1.70
East_African 0.06
Southwest_Asian: 12.49
East_Asian: 0.59
Caucasian: 39.51
SSA: 1.24

[Begtios]

Can you guys interpret this?

Test,21.2,3.21,0.20,0.95,9.09,6.36,1.76,1.04,16.06 ,2.13,38.02,0

Thanks.

[Sterling Archer]

Can you guys interpret this?

Test,21.2,3.21,0.20,0.95,9.09,6.36,1.76,1.04,16.06 ,2.13,38.02,0

Thanks.

Is this your result? The closest population are Turkmens from Iraq, although this result is a bit more northern than usual and has higher mongoloid:

Distance to: Test
3.72252602 Turkmen_Iraq
4.87385884 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.06388191 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.10077445 Turk_Southeast
5.56886883 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.07710457 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.19518361 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
6.31670009 Yazidi
6.98540622 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.12995792 Kurd_Sorani
8.11699452 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.47338775 Iranian_Lur
8.80461811 Kurd_Feyli
8.84341563 Turk_Central_East
8.92802330 Iranian_Central
9.47652362 Turk_South
9.60339523 Iranian_Fars
9.64355225 Turk_East
9.98526915 Iranian_Zoroastrian
10.23688429 Mandean
10.26751187 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.60390966 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.63962875 Turk_Central_West
10.83630011 Iranian_Arab
11.09472397 Azerbaijani_Jew

[Begtios]

Is this your result? The closest population are Turkmens from Iraq, although this result is a bit more northern than usual and has higher mongoloid.
Not mine.

I don't trust the Turkmen_Iraq average in Vahaduo. I think they got the samples from the Iraqi DNA Project. I'm trying to create my own average cuz i don't think Iraqi DNA Project has done a clean job there. For now there are two samples, both from Kirkuk and they are pretty close to each other. They are 8/8 Iraqi Turkmen. When I calculate the distance with using the dual tool in Vahaduo, my samples tend to slightly shift towards Western Anatolia.

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[Arzanene]

Can you guys interpret this?

Test,21.2,3.21,0.20,0.95,9.09,6.36,1.76,1.04,16.06 ,2.13,38.02,0

Thanks.



Target: Test
Distance: 1.6886% / 1.68856665 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.2 Iranian_Lur
31.3 Assyrian_North
15.7 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.9 Greek_Central
4.9 Bedouin


Target: Test
Distance: 1.6376% / 1.63760956 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.3 Kurd_Sorani
30.8 Assyrian_West
16.3 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.7 Greek_Kos
3.9 Bedouin

[Babak]

Finally a Tat result from Azerbaijan. All ancestors of this person are Tats from Khizi, Azerbaijan.

Gedrosia 22.02 Pct
Siberian 1.07 Pct
Northwest_African 1.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.54 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.49 Pct
North_European 12.52 Pct
South_Asian 2.08 Pct
East_African 0.06 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.03 Pct
East_Asian 1.89 Pct
Caucasus 41.18 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Tat
3.85045452 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.65438503 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.84170352 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.84439903 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.67711015 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.83108337 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
7.17584141 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.37837380 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.62813421 Turk_Southeast
8.69955746 Yazidi
9.02170161 Turk_East
9.02471606 Kurd_Sorani
9.16894760 Iranian_Zoroastrian
9.62963135 Iranian_Central
9.76515233 Turkmen_Iraq
9.83441915 Turk_Central_East
10.11096435 Ingush
10.13237879 Kurd_Feyli
10.30495027 Kumyk
10.76097115 Turk_South
10.86037753 Adyghe
11.25849457 Iranian_Lur
11.31925351 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.62218138 Abazin
11.72480703 Kabardin

Distance to: Tat
1.70986316 83.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 16.60% Kurdish_Jew
1.77401632 81.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 18.60% Azerbaijani_Jew
1.78240875 84.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 15.80% Iraqi_Jew
1.81055135 17.80% Assyrian_South + 82.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.83511766 18.00% Assyrian_North + 82.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.85557861 44.60% Chechen + 55.40% Turkmen_Iraq
1.87291930 17.40% Assyrian_West + 82.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.88168522 82.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 17.40% Mandean
1.90543842 39.40% Kumyk + 60.60% Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
1.97924347 41.80% Balkar + 58.20% Kurd_Sorani
1.98559679 49.00% Ingush + 51.00% Turkmen_Iraq
1.99505199 43.00% Circassian + 57.00% Kurd_Sorani
2.13710144 36.00% Balkar + 64.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.13786327 43.40% Abazin + 56.60% Kurd_Sorani
2.14668675 88.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 11.80% Palestinian_Christian
2.15387716 88.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 11.40% Syrian_Christian
2.16437768 43.20% Kabardin + 56.80% Kurd_Sorani
2.17393603 88.80% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 11.20% Jordanian_Christian
2.19265649 87.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 12.80% Lebanese_Christian
2.19571683 17.00% Armenian_West + 83.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.21338689 40.40% Kumyk + 59.60% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.22364396 58.60% Ingush + 41.40% Iraqi_Baghdad
2.24724585 40.80% Balkar + 59.20% Yazidi
2.29881786 43.20% Karachay + 56.80% Kurd_Sorani
2.30211754 82.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 18.00% Iraqi_Baghdad

Sexy wet results. Thanks Sterling. Youre the man!

[Sterling Archer]

Sexy wet results. Thanks Sterling. Youre the man!

Just got my dad's result too. This thread is not very active so I haven't posted it yet.

[Kyp]

Just got my dad's result too. This thread is not very active so I haven't posted it yet.

Feel free to share! Alternatively in PM

[Sterling Archer]

Feel free to share! Alternatively in PM

My dad's result:
https://i.imgur.com/76KML9B.png

Distance to: Dad
4.09718196 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.29347654 Azerbaijani_Republic
7.55176800 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.98419063 Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.61917049 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.70257433 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.82975085 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.15260072 Iranian_Central
9.32728256 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
9.48277386 Yazidi
9.62397007 Kurd_Sorani
9.96522453 Kumyk
10.57444088 Turk_Southeast
10.58677005 Iranian_Khorasan
10.59377647 Lezgin
10.71086831 Ingush
11.03791647 Kurd_Feyli
11.17599660 Iranian_Fars
11.22252645 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.31304999 Turkmen_Iraq
11.42518709 Iranian_Kerman
11.68477214 Chechen
11.88318981 Tabasaran
11.96582634 Iranian_Lur
12.29596682 Turk_South


Distance to: Dad
1.97429796 45.20% Lak + 54.80% Turkmen_Iraq
1.99708395 43.40% Avar + 56.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.02040752 42.20% Dargin_Kaitag + 57.80% Turkmen_Iraq
2.02864570 40.40% Dargin + 59.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.05850992 48.80% Tabasaran + 51.20% Turkmen_Iraq
2.15449355 51.80% Lezgin + 48.20% Turkmen_Iraq
2.25670658 42.40% Dargin_Kubachi + 57.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.30176036 35.60% Dargin_Kaitag + 64.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.53835135 36.60% Avar + 63.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.54296214 39.40% Iraqi_Baghdad + 60.60% Lezgin
2.65636092 61.80% Kurd_Kurmanji + 38.20% Lak
2.69332057 13.20% Komi + 86.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.75961129 10.80% Finnish_East + 89.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.76784973 88.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 11.40% Veps
2.79447585 12.80% Russian_Ural + 87.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.80216327 58.40% Kurd_Kurmanji + 41.60% Tabasaran
2.80445662 12.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina + 88.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.83068223 33.60% Dargin + 66.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.85425089 46.00% Iraqi_Baghdad + 54.00% Lak
2.86962621 11.20% Karelian + 88.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.90590946 55.40% Kurd_Kurmanji + 44.60% Lezgin
2.93621674 56.40% Avar + 43.60% Mandean
2.94063636 42.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 57.80% Tabasaran
2.94715495 12.40% Russian_Kostroma + 87.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.96138745 11.60% Saami_Sweden + 88.40% Talysh_Azerbaijan

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[Sterling Archer]

Just for fun, his Eurogenes K13:

Distance to: Dad
5.47032906 Kumyk
6.64353821 Circassian
8.72518195 Ingush
9.38295796 Kabardian
9.46261063 Balkar
9.60703909 Ossetian_North
10.27229283 Chechen
10.46268608 Ossetian
10.89481528 Lezgin
12.37706750 Georgian
13.20137493 Talysh
13.47118406 Tabasaran
13.58282739 Persian_Eastcentral
13.58845098 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.68569326 Zaza
13.85155948 Kurd
14.08129966 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.55081441 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
14.74103456 Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan
15.02117505 Lur
15.02836318 Abhkaz
15.13370741 Kurd_Sorani
15.34248024 Iranian
15.42690183 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
15.79914555 Kurd_Iran

Distance to: Dad
2.31466592 59.80% Chechen + 40.20% Lur
2.60396767 68.60% Circassian + 31.40% Persian_Eastcentral
2.81552917 60.40% Chechen + 39.60% Iranian
3.03005083 60.20% Chechen + 39.80% Kurd_Sorani
3.07247889 42.80% Lak + 57.20% Zaza
3.13380837 80.20% Circassian + 19.80% Parsi_India
3.17468161 45.20% Lak + 54.80% Lur
3.19831368 72.00% Circassian + 28.00% Iranian
3.21889937 58.00% Chechen + 42.00% Kurd
3.23412727 57.60% Chechen + 42.40% Zaza
3.26640047 60.00% Kabardian + 40.00% Persian_Eastcentral
3.30885116 37.00% Iranian + 63.00% Kabardian
3.38160313 54.60% Kurd_Sorani + 45.40% Lak
3.43431490 62.00% Ingush + 38.00% Persian_Eastcentral
3.46207589 59.40% Chechen + 40.60% Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
3.49072012 55.60% Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 44.40% Lak
3.52167680 61.40% Chechen + 38.60% Kurd_Iran

Target: Dad
Distance: 1.7668% / 1.76681356
50.5 Georgian
42.0 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
7.5 Saudi

Target: Dad
Distance: 1.1964% / 1.19636648
53.5 Circassian
21.7 Lur
13.5 Lak
6.1 Kalash
5.2 Saudi

[Arzanene]

Is he from the Northern provinces like the Tat sample?

[Kyp]

My dad's result:
https://i.imgur.com/76KML9B.png

Distance to: Dad
4.09718196 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.29347654 Azerbaijani_Republic
7.55176800 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.98419063 Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.61917049 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.70257433 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.82975085 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.15260072 Iranian_Central
9.32728256 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
9.48277386 Yazidi
9.62397007 Kurd_Sorani
9.96522453 Kumyk
10.57444088 Turk_Southeast
10.58677005 Iranian_Khorasan
10.59377647 Lezgin
10.71086831 Ingush
11.03791647 Kurd_Feyli
11.17599660 Iranian_Fars
11.22252645 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.31304999 Turkmen_Iraq
11.42518709 Iranian_Kerman
11.68477214 Chechen
11.88318981 Tabasaran
11.96582634 Iranian_Lur
12.29596682 Turk_South


Distance to: Dad
1.97429796 45.20% Lak + 54.80% Turkmen_Iraq
1.99708395 43.40% Avar + 56.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.02040752 42.20% Dargin_Kaitag + 57.80% Turkmen_Iraq
2.02864570 40.40% Dargin + 59.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.05850992 48.80% Tabasaran + 51.20% Turkmen_Iraq
2.15449355 51.80% Lezgin + 48.20% Turkmen_Iraq
2.25670658 42.40% Dargin_Kubachi + 57.60% Turkmen_Iraq
2.30176036 35.60% Dargin_Kaitag + 64.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.53835135 36.60% Avar + 63.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.54296214 39.40% Iraqi_Baghdad + 60.60% Lezgin
2.65636092 61.80% Kurd_Kurmanji + 38.20% Lak
2.69332057 13.20% Komi + 86.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.75961129 10.80% Finnish_East + 89.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.76784973 88.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 11.40% Veps
2.79447585 12.80% Russian_Ural + 87.20% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.80216327 58.40% Kurd_Kurmanji + 41.60% Tabasaran
2.80445662 12.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina + 88.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.83068223 33.60% Dargin + 66.40% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.85425089 46.00% Iraqi_Baghdad + 54.00% Lak
2.86962621 11.20% Karelian + 88.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.90590946 55.40% Kurd_Kurmanji + 44.60% Lezgin
2.93621674 56.40% Avar + 43.60% Mandean
2.94063636 42.20% Iraqi_Baghdad + 57.80% Tabasaran
2.94715495 12.40% Russian_Kostroma + 87.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.96138745 11.60% Saami_Sweden + 88.40% Talysh_Azerbaijan

undefined

from where was he again exactly?

[Sterling Archer]

Is he from the Northern provinces like the Tat sample?

Yes, but a bit further north.

[Sterling Archer]

Is he from the Northern provinces like the Tat sample?

This is his regional breakdown from FTDNA in case you (or anyone else) is interested:
https://i.imgur.com/4eoVokr.jpg

[Leto]

Posting because it's rare and because unregistered people reading the thread may find it interesting
Tajik

Gedrosia 24.5 Pct
Siberian 7.48 Pct
Northwest_African 1.06 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.57 Pct
North_European 14.6 Pct
South_Asian 7.2 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.42 Pct
East_Asian 13.88 Pct
Caucasus 19.27 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.97 Pct

Distance to: Tolib
3.05306707 89.20% Tajik_Mountain + 10.80% Tibetan
3.10311905 10.80% Nepali_Kirant_Rai + 89.20% Tajik_Mountain
3.16560208 11.80% Nepali_Gurung + 88.20% Tajik_Mountain
3.21894278 89.60% Tajik_Mountain + 10.40% Tu
3.25703362 9.60% Naga + 90.40% Tajik_Mountain
3.30182797 9.20% Korean + 90.80% Tajik_Mountain
3.35939989 8.60% Japanese + 91.40% Tajik_Mountain
3.44080411 72.80% Tajik_Mountain + 27.20% Uyghur_Xinjiang
3.54097070 9.60% Han_North + 90.40% Tajik_Mountain
3.57416599 9.60% Manchu_Liaoning + 90.40% Tajik_Mountain

Target: Tolib
Distance: 1.7121% / 1.71210707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.3 Tajik_Mountain
10.2 Hazara
9.1 Turkmen_Iran
8.9 Tajik_Kabul
5.0 Japanese
2.7 Sardinian
0.8 Mandenka
0.5 Algerian
0.5 Uyghur_Xinjiang

Target: Tolib
Distance: 1.7408% / 1.74084168 | R4P
40.6 Hazara
26.7 Tajik_Kabul
24.1 Dargin_Kubachi
8.6 Spanish_Canarias


The Vahaduo site as we've known it has ceased to exist.