Are light traits in Southern Europe due to the northern European admixture ?

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan0130

Light traits in southern Europe is from Up types. And those UP types are native to southern Europe also.

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If blue eyes are due to a mutation happened during the Neolithic revolution, I sort of doubt UP types are responsible for them in Southen Europe.

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

Greece today has Slavic influence which lightened them.

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That's one of the things I always laugh in this forum. that its the Slavic influence that lightens Greeks or a light Greek has Slavic influence.
Then, every dark Slav has Greek influence since they are geniounly light and we are geniounly dark? ;)
So, my mother, which is from Zakynthos, why she is light? Why there is a big amount of light Ionians? Or Sfakians?

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Originally Posted by dandelion

That's one of the things I always laugh in this forum. that its the Slavic influence that lightens Greeks or a light Greek has Slavic influence.
Then, every dark Slav has Greek influence since they are geniounly light and we are geniounly dark? ;)
So, my mother, which is from Zakynthos, why she is light? Why there is a big amount of light Ionians? Or Sfakians?

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Sfakians according to Coon resemble closely Gheg Albanians and Montenegrins, he linked them to Dorian invasions.

And your point is ? Dorians were Greeks:

"The Dorians (Greek: Δωριεῖς, Dōrieis, singular Δωριεύς, Dōrieus) were one of the four major Greek ethnē into which the Greeks, or Hellenes, of the ancient period considered themselves divided (along with the Aeolians, Achaeans and Ionians).[1] Ethnos has the sense of ethnic group.[2] Herodotus uses the word with regard to them.[3] They are almost always referenced as just "the Dorians", as they are in the earliest literary mention of them in Odyssey,[4] where they already can be found inhabiting the island of Crete."

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Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli

The Mesolitich hunther gathereres are the main source of Northern Euro admixture in S.Europe .

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then why Sardinia , who had been populated since the paleolithic and it's rather conservative , have only 14% of Northern Euro aDNA ?

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0043759

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Originally Posted by safinator

Sfakians according to Coon resemble closely Gheg Albanians and Montenegrins, he linked them to Dorian invasions.

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more recently K.Kristiansen in "Europe before history "(p. 388) linked the Dorian migration with the Caka group of the Urnfield Culture (roughly western Hungary)

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

Does really make some kind of differences if a region is 30 or 20% light eyed...?!?

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are you kidding? bigs and huge shitstorms have unleashed on The Apricity for much less than that.

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Originally Posted by Lábaru

are you kidding? bigs and huge shitstorms have unleashed on The Apricity for much less than that.

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Corretto amico, ma fortunatamente non tutti siamo feticisti degli occhi azzurri/chiari o del pelo biondo, lol.

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Originally Posted by safinator

Sfakians according to Coon resemble closely Gheg Albanians and Montenegrins, he linked them to Dorian invasions.

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Are you trying to link the Dorians with Gheg Albanians and Montenegrins? http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/upload...nfused-Gif.gif

Also, for everyone here, please note that the Dorian invasion has historicity but did not happen as the ancients described it, as no archaeological evidence exists for such an invasion. It most likely represents population movements within Greece rather than an invasion. In fact, the Dorian invasion was an attempt to explain how the remnants of Mycenaean Greece transitioned into the early Classical era through the Greek Dark Ages. In other words, it was more likely than not an attempt to explain the evolution of Mycenaean Greek traditions into the classical ones.

So don't try to depict "Dorians" as some sort of blond Ubermensch invading from the far-north or something.

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Originally Posted by ABest

Are you trying to link the Dorians with Gheg Albanians and Montenegrins? http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/upload...nfused-Gif.gif

Also, for everyone here, please note that the Dorian invasion has historicity but did not happen as the ancients described it, as no archaeological evidence exists for such an invasion. It most likely represents population movements within Greece rather than an invasion. In fact, the Dorian invasion was an attempt to explain how the remnants of Mycenaean Greece transitioned into the early Classical era through the Greek Dark Ages. In other words, it was more likely than not an attempt to explain the evolution of Mycenaean Greek traditions into the classical ones.

So don't try to depict "Dorians" as some sort of blond Ubermensch invading from the far-north or something.

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I just quoted what he said, there's no personal opinion there.