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I still don't understand how these calculators works, how is possible Ionashku to be more Southern than Andronic? He don't even have Greek_Thessaly in top 20 single population sharing. I know he have high Red Sea and low West Med, is possible that these two components to change so much the results? Vaniusha, explain please.
https://sun9-14.userapi.com/c206524/...usbCEYvWyI.jpg
I'll take a look at their K15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Meanwhile, a Russophone from the town of Ribnita, Transnistria, but with a Romanian/Moldovan surname.
Shtyrbul, Ribnita
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 36.87 2 North_Atlantic 26.6 3 West_Med 14.39 4 East_Med 9.35 5 West_Asian 5.74 6 Red_Sea 2.31 7 Siberian 1.58 8 Oceanian 1.22 9 South_Asian 0.72 10 East_Asian 0.6 11 Northeast_African 0.5 12 Sub-Saharan 0.09 13 Amerindian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Croatian 2.95 2 Moldavian 5.25 3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.33 4 South_Polish 7.45 5 Hungarian 7.5 6 Ukrainian 7.57 7 Polish 10.52 8 Serbian 10.68 9 East_German 10.83 10 Southwest_Russian 11.31 11 Austrian 11.44 12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.97 13 Russian_Smolensk 12.6 14 Estonian_Polish 12.94 15 Belorussian 13.61 16 Romanian 14.51 17 Kargopol_Russian 15.13 18 Southwest_Finnish 16.17 19 Bulgarian 16.51 20 Erzya 17.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 82.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 17.2% Tuscan @ 2.17 2 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.24 3 84.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 15.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.24 4 79.8% Ukrainian + 20.2% Tuscan @ 2.27 5 69.2% Estonian_Polish + 30.8% Tuscan @ 2.27 6 87.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.37 7 87.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.39 8 69.8% Russian_Smolensk + 30.2% Tuscan @ 2.42 9 70.4% Southwest_Russian + 29.6% North_Italian @ 2.43 10 61.5% Lithuanian + 38.5% Tuscan @ 2.45 11 64.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35.9% Serbian @ 2.51 12 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.53 13 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.55 14 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% East_Finnish @ 2.55 15 81.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.1% North_Italian @ 2.57 16 59.3% Ukrainian + 40.7% Serbian @ 2.57 17 85.3% Ukrainian + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.58 18 85.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.59 19 95.9% Croatian + 4.1% Mari @ 2.62 20 81.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.62
Demographics of Ribnita town in 2004
Народ кол-во,
чел.<small style="font-size: 11.9px;">%
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всего</small><small style="font-size: 11.9px;">%
от
указав-
ших</small>Украинцы 24898 46,41 % 50,10 % Русские 11738 21,88 % 23,62 % Молдаване 11235 20,94 % 22,61 % Поляки 500 0,93 % 1,01 % Белорусы 328 0,61 % 0,66 % Болгары 220 0,41 % 0,44 % Евреи 166 0,31 % 0,33 % Немцы 106 0,20 % 0,21 % Гагаузы 96 0,18 % 0,19 % другие 571 1,06 % 1,15 % указали 49693 92,63 % 100,00 % не указали 3955 7,37 % всего 53648 100,00 %
If you look at the K15 PCA, you will see that these are the components that pull up (from left to right): Atlantic, North Sea, Baltic, Eastern (Euro), Amerindian, Siberian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
West Med pulls slightly down and to the West. The combination of Atlantic and West Med is the cause for Andronic pulling noticeably West.
East Med and Red Sea pull strongly down and slightly to the East. In this model they seem to be pretty close to one another. West Asian pulls stronger to the East, but not as much down as the former components.
South Asian pulls to the Southeast the strongest of all.
I assume Southeast Asian and Oceanian also pull down, even though they are not drawn on the PCA.
So the sum of components that pull up for Ionashku is 67.65 and 67.02 for Andronic.
For East Med and West Asian they are identical.
It might seem that every percentage in minor components like East Med, Red Sea and South Asian can move the position around significantly. South Asian will have the biggest influence.
Red_Sea 4.83 Pct South_Asian 1.08 Pct Southeast_Asian 1.32 Pct Total: 7.86
Oceanian 0.63 Pc
Red_Sea 3.05 Pct South_Asian 0.27 Pct Southeast_Asian - Total: 3.32
Oceanian -
How much East_Med and Red_Sea does he score on Eu K15?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
North_Sea 20.79 Pct Atlantic 13.37 Pct Baltic 23.51 Pct Eastern_Euro 15.51 Pct West_Med 10.72 Pct West_Asian 5.55 Pct East_Med 5.74 Pct Red_Sea 1.71 Pct South_Asian 0.55 Pct Southeast_Asian 0.30 Pct Siberian 0.63 Pct Amerindian - Oceanian 1.05 Pct Northeast_African 0.57 Pct Sub-Saharan -
Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 1.5073% / 0.01507251
53.0 Ukrainian
38.8 Moldovan
8.2 Tatar_Kazan
Distance to: yo_scaled
0.02821185 Ukrainian:UCH945_ukrainian_Tsherk
0.02962201 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055
0.03197166 Ukrainian:Ukrainian12
0.03335821 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V13693
0.03387962 Moldovan:7481C01
0.03458364 Moldovan:7471C02
0.03497852 Moldovan:7472C02
0.03514737 Ukrainian:Ukrainian1
0.03526526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian22
0.03538178 Moldovan:8492C01
0.03628731 Ukrainian:UKR-2021
0.03694796 Moldovan:7522C01
0.03701894 Ukrainian:ULV293_ukrainian_Lviv
0.03783166 Ukrainian:UKR-1951
0.03812441 Ukrainian:Ukrainian3
0.03848942 Ukrainian:Ukrainian17
0.03872952 Ukrainian:UKR-1903
0.03943326 Ukrainian:UKR-1291
0.03962526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian20
0.03969376 Ukrainian:UKR-1283
0.04047538 Ukrainian:Ukrainian18
0.04162903 Ukrainian:UKR-1377
0.04178886 Moldovan:7581C02
0.04223993 Ukrainian:UKR-1399
0.04292968 Ukrainian:UKR-1292
I am the most northern full Moldovan ever
Those two outliers are pure Ukrainians and 8492C01 is mixed. But the others from this list might be unmixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
Honciuc, Botosani (Ukrainian surname)
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 30.94 2 North_Atlantic 25.88 3 West_Med 16.18 4 East_Med 13.64 5 West_Asian 8.74 6 Red_Sea 1.2 7 Siberian 1.15 8 Oceanian 0.89 9 Amerindian 0.88 10 East_Asian 0.51
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Serbian 4.21 2 Moldavian 4.25 3 Croatian 6.32 4 Hungarian 7.31 5 Romanian 7.48 6 Bulgarian 9.59 7 Austrian 11.23 8 East_German 12.23 9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.8 10 South_Polish 13.48 11 Ukrainian 13.99 12 Polish 17.06 13 Southwest_Russian 17.44 14 West_German 17.49 15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.79 16 Greek_Thessaly 18.31 17 South_Dutch 18.98 18 Russian_Smolensk 19.22 19 French 19.61 20 Estonian_Polish 19.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 65.5% Romanian + 34.5% Ukrainian @ 1.56 2 54.4% Croatian + 45.6% Romanian @ 1.58 3 60.8% Croatian + 39.2% Bulgarian @ 1.68 4 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.72 5 50.3% Serbian + 49.7% Moldavian @ 1.77 6 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.77 7 83% Croatian + 17% South_Italian @ 1.81 8 63.6% Romanian + 36.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.82 9 81% Croatian + 19% West_Sicilian @ 1.83 10 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.84 11 70.1% Romanian + 29.9% Polish @ 1.87 12 80.7% Croatian + 19.3% Central_Greek @ 1.88 13 80.1% Croatian + 19.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.89 14 85.2% Croatian + 14.8% Italian_Jewish @ 1.92 15 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Estonian @ 1.92 16 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% South_Polish @ 1.94 17 64.9% Romanian + 35.1% South_Polish @ 1.98 18 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Estonian @ 2 19 57.7% South_Polish + 42.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.02 20 61.8% Serbian + 38.2% Croatian @ 2.03
I will create a separate thread when the results will be ready, but here is the progress for my brother's MyHeritage results.
As I know the yDNA and mtDNA from me, there was no point in taking 23andme for him, as MyHeritage is stronger in the raw autosomal DNA department.
It took 2 weeks for my mom's kit and 1.5 weeks for my dad's kit to go from "received" to "results are available" back in January this year.
https://i.imgur.com/RKP2uFj.png
We'll see who gets his results first - Chris or your brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Is my heritage actually as good/better than 23 and me in autosomal dna? Because there is a huge sale going on right now and I'm kind of interested in getting my parents tested lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yeah, I hope there aren't any delays in both of our cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Yep, as Davidski told me at some point, when I asked about the best test for Global 25, he advised that it's something like Ancestry>MyHeritage>LivingDNA=23andme v5Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
You can grab a couple of 23andme v5 kits, Ancestry, MyHeritage and LivingDNA from your DNA relatives.
Just plug them in a random GEDmatch calculator, but having worked so much with K13, I remember the number of tested SNPs for genealogical purposes of the top of my head.
It's like 170k for Ancestry, 75k MyHeritage, 58k for both LivingDNA and 23andme v5
If you are on 23andme v3 or v4 like me, which use in the region of 170k SNPs for this calculator, then there's no point to "upgrade" to Ancestry.
Unfortunately Ancestry is not available outside US and some countries in Western Europe, so my options are limited to MyHeritage, LivingDNA and 23andme.
Spoiler!
Wow, thanks. I’m definitely going to be upgrading to ancestry myself, and I will buy this MyHeritage sale to test my parents. Let’s see how southern my Moldovan side is hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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Well, as I already concluded, if your Moldovan side is typical for the Northern region, then your Ukrainian side must be Hutsul/Carpathian highlander-like. I was modeling you with West Ukrainians initially and didn't realise that Hutsuls, who are also West Ukrainians, are quite Southern compared to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
From you paternal side, from who are your Moldavian roots, Grandfather or Grandmother?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
Grandfather. Grandma is south Polish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Well, you need to test him to know how your Moldavian side genetically is, but this, of course, if he is still alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
Can you share some DNA results from 23andme of the people with 4 grandparents from Moldova that match you? Obviously don't share their pictures and full names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1227168f26.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e8b3482e4c.jpg
This is the closest match I have. And it is through that Polish grandma. Their father is full Moldovan.
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Yeah, but those must be on the higher end of the spectrum. For example here is a match of mine who is a halfie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
https://i.imgur.com/9TDc3Us.png
https://i.imgur.com/TbGVgIi.png
My closest DNA relative is a Russian girl who is 2/4 Ukrainian, 1/4 Russian and 1/4 Moldovan. So a similar profile to yours, more or less. But she scores in the mid 60s, like in your halfie example..
https://i.imgur.com/2QswY1y.png
https://i.imgur.com/cf1078N.png
Here's another person with a similar profile to yours. She is 2/4 Ukrainian, 1/4 Russian and 1/4 Moldovan from the North. This one has similar results.
https://i.imgur.com/zqmONg2.png
https://i.imgur.com/AHkd3Aa.png
Next top three matches for me. The first guy is from my Moldovan side, his mom is my grandfathers cousin. I don’t really know his dads side of fam. Looks Moldovan to me though from the results.
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6cc4c31541.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e826b175cf.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...28eedb43e8.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f0a6456f10.jpg
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I thought I'd merge all the ancestral surnames of my DNA relatives from Moldova on 23andme and MyHeritage.
Maybe someone might find it interesting.
Code:popa,puls,calin,raileanu,rotari,lesnic,cojocari,buzila,lambarschi,melnic,stavenski,stavinscaia,ciolpan,stavinschi,stavenscaia,didenco,damascan,lashkul,mihalachi,bordei,parvan,munteanu,condurache,moraru,dragos,casu,roytapel,frishman,Филирчук,Ройтапель,Малюта,barbaros,cojuhari,ciobanu,postovanu,opsovanu,smantana,simion,smantina,Кожокарь,neamtu,ciolac,tatar,mitropolskaya,chukurna,iacob,ionita,albu,bejenaru,olteanu,Doni,Valdman,Botnar,Botnari,Batryncha,Popa,Solomitchi,Prisacaru,Rosca,Rotariu,Ciobanu,Buga,Lazari,Postica,Popa,Lupu,Marandich,Canter,Ghelan,Popa,Esanu,Melnic,Ghilinschi,Ghilenschi,Ghelinschi,Muntean,Dragovtev,Iaz,Tirbu,Secrieru,Oboroc,Novac,Placinta,Platinda,novac,Yakovlev,Yakovleva,Chichek,Perju,Jugeli,Jugheli,Turcanu,Boiko,Berezovskii,Novac,Omelcenco,Soloviev,Untila,Solovieva
A Moldovan-Russian mix
I-CTS5966
L1a1
https://i.redd.it/7gt7m9cwyew41.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...omment/fpatmw6
If someone has a Reddit account, they can ask him for his Gedmatch. I deleted my account.
It is hard to believe in his half Moldovan considering that he doesn't receive any region. Might be a quarter or more, although I receive 8 regions as a quarter. Strange caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Well, that's what he presented himself as. We need Gedmatch to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
My brother's sample is in the penultimate stage. From my experience and what I also saw with Chris596's sample, it takes about 1-2 days to get the results from here.
https://i.imgur.com/9ecoOsN.png
Excitement is through the roof
https://i.imgur.com/NRLaJf0.png
Found some interesting kit. I wonder if she has actual Moldovan ancestry or that's just a false signal
Kit ZV3935167
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.52
2 North_Atlantic 24.04
3 West_Med 16.31
4 West_Asian 10.9
5 East_Med 8.57
6 South_Asian 4.15
7 Siberian 2.01
8 Amerindian 0.39
9 Oceanian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.95
2 Croatian 5.98
3 Hungarian 9.41
4 Serbian 9.73
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.39
6 Ukrainian 11.68
7 South_Polish 11.81
8 Romanian 12.08
9 East_German 12.92
10 Austrian 12.97
11 Bulgarian 13.91
12 Polish 14.96
13 Southwest_Russian 15.09
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.13
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.75
16 Estonian_Polish 17.44
17 Kargopol_Russian 17.95
18 Tatar 18.35
19 Belorussian 18.38
20 Erzya 19.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.2% Moldavian + 3.8% Gujarati @ 3.14
2 96.5% Moldavian + 3.5% Dharkar @ 3.14
3 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Brahmin_UP @ 3.15
4 96.5% Moldavian + 3.5% Kanjar @ 3.15
5 96.2% Moldavian + 3.8% Kshatriya @ 3.16
6 96.7% Moldavian + 3.3% Kol @ 3.16
7 96.8% Moldavian + 3.2% North_Kannadi @ 3.18
8 96.7% Moldavian + 3.3% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.18
9 96.8% Moldavian + 3.2% Kurumba @ 3.19
10 97% Moldavian + 3% Chamar @ 3.19
11 96.8% Moldavian + 3.2% Velamas @ 3.2
12 97% Moldavian + 3% Piramalai @ 3.21
13 96.9% Moldavian + 3.1% Dusadh @ 3.21
14 95.6% Moldavian + 4.4% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.22
15 97.1% Moldavian + 2.9% Sakilli @ 3.23
16 96.9% Moldavian + 3.1% Chenchu @ 3.25
17 96.5% Moldavian + 3.5% Bangladeshi @ 3.27
18 96.3% Moldavian + 3.7% Sindhi @ 3.32
19 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Burusho @ 3.32
20 95.8% Moldavian + 4.2% Kalash @ 3.32
Target: Lyubov
Distance: 3.0032% / 3.00322566 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Moldova_North
21.6 Ukrainian
5.4 Kalash
3.0 Sardinian
2.6 Bulgarian_Ruse
1.2 Gujarati
0.4 Kargopol_Russian
Target: Lyubov
Distance: 1.0814% / 1.08142120
25.8 South_Polish
14.4 Erzya
14.4 Sardinian
14.2 Ukrainian
8.8 Kalash
7.0 Latvian
5.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace
3.8 Lithuanian
3.6 Georgian_imereti
2.0 French_Basque
0.2 Tabassaran
Population
Gedrosia 6.81 Pct
Siberian 2.60 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.82 Pct
North_European 43.96 Pct
South_Asian 1.54 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 16.22 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Lyubov
5.03863077 Croat
5.07113400 Bosnian
5.41928962 R.Moldova_Centre+North
6.17832502 Hungarians
6.52249952 HUN_Szekely
8.31325448 Serb
11.87635045 German
11.92514989 Montenegrin
12.08295494 Sorb_Lusatia
12.55265709 Ukrainian
Target: Lyubov
Distance: 2.1863% / 2.18632487 | ADC: 0.5x
54.0 Bosnian
30.4 Hungarians
8.2 HUN_Szekely
6.6 Udmurt
0.8 Jatt
Target: Lyubov
Distance: 0.9921% / 0.99211964 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 Bosnian
19.0 Hungarians
8.8 Udmurt
8.6 German
1.8 Jatt
0.2 Brahui
Definitely, average Moldavian have 4% South Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Not funny and I wasn't trolling. I'm not blind and can see the South Asian. If it weren't for that part the results would be fairly Moldovan. And for that matter, Tzigane ancestry is more common in Romanian-speaking areas than in Russian-speaking. At least in relative numbers if not absolute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Just because they might score like a Moldovan, doesn't make them one. If you mix a Greek and a Lithuanian, you will more or less get a Moldovan/Eastern Romanian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Do these names look Moldovan to you?
Email: Kit Number: RJ7520263 Name: Kit Number: ZV3935167 Name: Kit Number: LY3203723 Name:
The email points to a Russian from Moscow.
I wasn't saying that person is supposed to be a full Moldovan. Then again, Moldovan ancestry isn't something super rare in Russia, especially in cosmopolitan Moscow. It isn't very common either but can be found nevertheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
She's not Moldovan, as in ethnic, at all. Her native language is Russian and she didn't list Romanian on the CV. If Vitaliy is her husband, then he scores like a West Ukrainian. Alfred Bodrov looks like a half German, so perhaps a descendant of one of the German prisoners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
In Moldova it's the other way around, i.e. more common in Russian-speaking areas as Romas themselves are likelier to be Russian rather than Romanian speakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Okay. I apologize if my post was offensive. Is that because of the South Asian? Tomorrow I'll post a Belorussian claiming he is Moldovan :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Why prisoners, lol. There were almost two million Volga Germans in the Soviet Union. Another baseless claim.
I mean in RELATIVE numbers. Romania has way more than Russia per capita.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Ah, it's not about South Asian at all. It's not like we don't have Moldovans in our spreadsheet with that amount of South Asian. I would have thought that she's Moldovan too, but this is why it's important to verify the kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I was suspicious because of the forename firstly, Lyubov, which to me came as a clue that she is at least half Russophone (be it Russian, Ukrainian, Gagauz, Bulgarian, Gypsy, Jewish, etc.). Then the next clue came when I looked her kit up and saw that the surname is Russian. Then I saw her related kits, which are also all non-Moldovan ethnics. Then the last hint came when I actually found her online as a person from Moscow for whom Russian is listed as Native language and German as beginner. Romanian is nowhere to be seen, even at beginner level.
Therefore, there's no clue to point at her tracing any part of ancestry from Moldova.
We don't have any migration from Romania. Moldova is way poorer and in Moldova there are less than 10k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Ethnic
groupcensus 19591 census 19702 census 19793 census 19894 census 20045 census 20145 Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Moldovans8 1,886,566 65.4 2,303,916 64.6 2,525,687 63.9 2,794,749 64.5 2,742,231 69.6 2,068,058 75.1 Romanians 1,663 0.1 1,581 0.0 1,657 0.0 2,477 0.1 73,529 1.9 192,800 7.0 Ukrainians 420,820 14.6 506,560 14.2 560,679 14.2 600,366 13.8 442,475 11.2 181,035 6.6 Gagauzians 95,856 3.3 124,902 3.5 138,000 3.5 153,548 3.5 151,596 3.8 126,010 4.6 Russians 292,930 10.2 414,444 11.6 505,730 12.8 562,069 13.0 369,896 9.4 111,726 4.1 Bulgarians 61,652 2.1 73,776 2.1 80,665 2.0 88,419 2.0 79,520 2.0 51,867 1.9 Romani 7,265 0.3 9,235 0.3 10,666 0.3 11,571 0.3 12,778 0.3 9,323 0.3
She could be that Belorussian ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I'm looking at her matches and there's a certain Sherbakov (same family) that's her relative at 28cM. He has a family tree and is from Belarus on both sides.
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Alexander Parfirievich Sherbakov, b. 10 MAY 1933, Belarus, d. ABT 1993, Belarus
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| Stanislav Stanislavovich Galkiewicz, b. ABT 1910, Belarus, Belarus
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Sofia Stanislavovna Galkiewicz, b. 20 DEC 1933, Belarus, d. ABT 1993, Belarus
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Lidia Petrovna Butskiewicz, b. ABT 1913, Belarus
Maybe she's an orphan from Moldova, who was adopted by a family from Moscow? But that's a wild guess without any proofs, especially exacerbated by the fact that she doesn't appear to match anyone from Moldova or Romania or Ukraine in her closest matches.