Eurogenes K13

Admix Results:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 41.33
2 Baltic 23.88
3 West_Med 14.92
4 West_Asian 8.86
5 East_Med 6.04
6 Red_Sea 1.78
7 South_Asian 1.61
8 East_Asian 0.00
9 Siberian 1.07
10 Amerindian 0.36
11 Oceanian 0.00
12 Northeast_African 0.15
13 Sub-Saharan 0.00


Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.10%
1 German 52.82%
2 Norwegian 26.10%
3 Armenian 7.80%
4 Sardinian 6.92%
5 Selkup 2.10%
6 French_Basque 2.09%
7 Brahui 1.08%
8 Lithuanian 1.00%
9 Moroccan 0.01%
10 Ket 0.00%

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Originally Posted by Jackson

I always thought it would be interesting to know the range of each component for the constituents of each population group. Would be useful to help see how much variation there is around the population average.

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I think that can be extrapolated from individual results like ones we have ITT. Eurogenes calculators get around calculator effect so it shouldn't be problematic.

For example, if you have known Russian matches in Gedmatch, run them through the test and compare those who get Russian as closest population in Oracle with the average Russian result. Since many populations that are separate in the calculator identify as Russians, it may be safest to ignore those who get something like Kargopol Russian or Northwest Ukrainian as closest population if you are just interested in the calculator's "Russian".

1 Baltic 53.11
2 North_Atlantic 32.34
3 Siberian 8.1
4 West_Med 2.71
5 Amerindian 1.63
6 West_Asian 0.96
7 Sub-Saharan 0.77
8 Oceanian 0.13
9 Northeast_African 0.13
10 East_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Finnish 4.44
2 Finnish 5.93
3 Estonian 6.68
4 Lithuanian 9.65
5 Kargopol_Russian 10.13
6 Belorussian 10.76
7 Southwest_Finnish 11.41
8 Erzya 12.38
9 Russian 13.59
10 Ukrainian_Northeast 14.3
11 Ukrainian 15.87
12 Polish 16.28
13 Ukrainian_West 17.04
14 North_Swedish 19.63
15 Chuvash 22.8
16 Hungarian 24.58
17 Austrian 25.91
18 Swedish 26.16
19 Mari 27.56
20 Norwegian 27.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% East_Finnish + 17.5% Estonian @ 4.31
2 89.7% East_Finnish + 10.3% Lithuanian @ 4.33
3 93.1% East_Finnish + 6.9% Finnish @ 4.43
4 100% East_Finnish + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.44
5 100% East_Finnish + 0% Adygei @ 4.44
6 100% East_Finnish + 0% Algerian @ 4.44
7 100% East_Finnish + 0% Altaian @ 4.44
8 100% East_Finnish + 0% Armenian @ 4.44
9 100% East_Finnish + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.44
10 100% East_Finnish + 0% Assyrian @ 4.44
11 100% East_Finnish + 0% Austrian @ 4.44
12 100% East_Finnish + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.44
13 100% East_Finnish + 0% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.44
14 100% East_Finnish + 0% Balkar @ 4.44
15 100% East_Finnish + 0% Balochi @ 4.44
16 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.44
17 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.44
18 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.44
19 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.44
20 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bedouin @ 4.44

Last bit of results:
Oracle-X:
1 Southeast_English 89.96%
2 Hungarian 5.39%
3 Danish 2.19%
4 North_Kannadi 1.12%
5 Yoruban 1.11%
6 Spanish_Murcia 0.11%
7 Iranian 0.11%
8 French 0.00%
9 Serbian 0.00%
10 Austrian 0.00%

Oracle-4:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 2.175
2 Danish @ 4.462
3 Orcadian @ 4.579
4 Southwest_English @ 4.878
5 Dutch @ 4.925
6 German @ 5.901
7 Irish @ 6.006
8 West_Scottish @ 6.069
9 Norwegian @ 8.936
10 Swedish @ 10.262
175 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 2.175
2 50% Danish +50% Southeast_English @ 2.922
3 50% German +50% Southeast_English @ 2.966
4 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 2.972
5 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 3.070
6 50% Orcadian +50% Southeast_English @ 3.144
7 50% Southeast_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.366
8 50% German +50% West_Scottish @ 3.697
9 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 3.756
10 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 3.775
15400 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% German +25% Southeast_English @ 2.005
2 50% Danish +25% French +25% Southeast_English @ 2.088
3 50% Danish +25% Danish +25% French @ 2.095
4 50% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English @ 2.175
5 50% Danish +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 2.220
6 50% Southeast_English +25% German +25% Southwest_English @ 2.257
7 50% Southeast_English +25% Dutch +25% Southeast_English @ 2.317
8 50% Southeast_English +25% Danish +25% German @ 2.338
9 50% Southeast_English +25% Danish +25% Southeast_English @ 2.386
10 50% Danish +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.391
362503 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.005
2 Danish + Danish + French + Southeast_English @ 2.088
3 Danish + Danish + Danish + French @ 2.095
4 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.175
5 Danish + Danish + French + Orcadian @ 2.220
6 German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.257
7 Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.317
8 Danish + French + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.318
9 Danish + German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.338
10 Danish + French + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 2.364
11 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.386
12 Danish + Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.391
13 Danish + Danish + French + West_Scottish @ 2.393
14 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 2.406
15 French + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.414
16 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.427
17 German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.427
18 Danish + Danish + Dutch + French @ 2.432
19 Danish + Danish + French + Irish @ 2.446
20 Danish + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.451

I say this once again people: Option 1 and Option 2 only actually works for the Oracle-X.

My maternal uncle's results:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps06d51de7.jpg

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Originally Posted by FaerieQueene

I say this once again people: Option 1 and Option 2 only actually works for the Oracle-X.

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But that is what they are - Oracle X has 2 options, Option 1 and and Option 2...

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Originally Posted by Jackson

But that is what they are - Oracle X has 2 options, Option 1 and and Option 2...

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But I always see some people posting 'results' for Option 1 and Option 2 of Oracle and Oracle-4, when the Option 1 and Option 2 is only actually for Oracle-X.....

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Originally Posted by Nabatea1

1East_Med 34.53
2 West_Asian 29.92
3 Red_Sea 10.75
4 West_Med 9.51
5 South_Asian 3.89
6 Baltic 2.33
7 Sub-Saharan 2.21
8 North_Atlantic 1.98
9 Northeast_African 1.41
10 Siberian 1.29
11 Oceanian 1.26
12 Amerindian 0.94

Single Population Sharing:



# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri_Jewish 6.1
2 Assyrian 6.97
3 Georgian_Jewish 7.39
4 Lebanese_Muslim 9.16
5 Syrian 9.38
6 Turkish 9.84
7 Armenian 10.54
8 Iranian 11.95
9 Kurdish 12.43
10 Jordanian 13.75
11 Cyprian 14.86
12 Lebanese_Druze 15
13 Lebanese_Christian 15.28
14 Palestinian 15.7
15 Samaritan 15.98
16 Bedouin 18.02
17 Sephardic_Jewish 21.46
18 Kumyk 22.02
19 Turkmen 22.3
20 South_Italian 22.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.6% Syrian + 42.4% Kurdish @ 2.98
2 56.6% Syrian + 43.4% Iranian @ 3.14
3 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% Iranian @ 3.37
4 52.7% Kurdish + 47.3% Jordanian @ 3.56
5 59.7% Kurdish + 40.3% Bedouin @ 3.6
6 74.2% Syrian + 25.8% Abhkasian @ 3.63
7 57.8% Iranian + 42.2% Samaritan @ 3.68
8 56.3% Kurdish + 43.7% Palestinian @ 3.73
9 73.2% Syrian + 26.8% Georgian @ 3.88
10 53.9% Iranian + 46.1% Jordanian @ 3.98
11 79.2% Azeri_Jewish + 20.8% Bedouin @ 3.99
12 73.9% Georgian_Jewish + 26.1% Bedouin @ 4
13 58.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 41.2% Kurdish @ 4.04
14 62.1% Palestinian + 37.9% Abhkasian @ 4.04
15 79.7% Georgian_Jewish + 20.3% Egyptian @ 4.05
16 64.3% Armenian + 35.7% Bedouin @ 4.05
17 57.8% Georgian_Jewish + 42.2% Syrian @ 4.07
18 84.3% Georgian_Jewish + 15.7% Algerian @ 4.14
19 60.6% Palestinian + 39.4% Georgian @ 4.14
20 56.9% Kurdish + 43.1% Samaritan @ 4.16

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +50% Syrian @ 3.483
2 50% Jordanian +50% Kurdish @ 3.513
3 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 3.656
4 50% Iranian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.868
5 50% Kurdish +50% Palestinian @ 4.238
6 50% Iranian +50% Jordanian @ 4.239
7 50% Georgian_Jewish +50% Syrian @ 4.483
8 50% Iranian +50% Samaritan @ 4.531
9 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.600
10 50% Kurdish +50% Samaritan @ 4.703
15400 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Iranian @ 2.587
2 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Egyptian +25% Iranian @ 2.596
3 50% Kurdish +25% Bedouin +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.748
4 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Egyptian +25% Kurdish @ 2.783
5 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Iranian @ 2.792
6 50% Syrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Kurdish @ 2.851
7 50% Palestinian +25% Georgian +25% Iranian @ 2.857
8 50% Palestinian +25% Abhkasian +25% Iranian @ 2.919
9 50% Azeri_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Iranian @ 2.972
10 50% Azeri_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Kurdish @ 2.975
127691 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.581
2 Azeri_Jewish + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.581
3 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.585
4 Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Syrian + Syrian @ 2.587
5 Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.596
6 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.646
7 Abhkasian + Egyptian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.666
8 Armenian + Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.681
9 Egyptian + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.687
10 Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.688
11 Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.690
12 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.690
13 Azeri_Jewish + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish @ 2.710
14 Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.728
15 Assyrian + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.734
16 Bedouin + Kurdish + Kurdish + Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.748
17 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.761
18 Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish @ 2.783
19 Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.792
20 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Palestinian @ 2.821

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You're very Jewish.

Eurogenes K13 Updated ADMIXTURE Proportions

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.83
2 West_Asian 34.23
3 West_Med 11.96
4 Red_Sea 8.31
5 South_Asian 2.25
6 North_Atlantic 1.72
7 Baltic 1.37
8 Oceanian 0.96
9 Northeast_African 0.26
10 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 2.55
2 Georgian_Jewish 3.57
3 Azeri_Jewish 4.01
4 Armenian 6.32
5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.62
6 Turkish 11.72
7 Kurdish 12.49
8 Syrian 12.74
9 Iranian 13.72
10 Lebanese_Druze 14.42
11 Cyprian 14.63
12 Lebanese_Christian 14.66
13 Samaritan 16.42
14 Jordanian 16.97
15 Palestinian 18.29
16 Georgian 22.18
17 Bedouin 22.3
18 Sephardic_Jewish 23.16
19 Abhkasian 23.23
20 Kumyk 23.33

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Assyrian +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
2 50% Assyrian +50% Assyrian @ 2.799
3 50% Assyrian +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 3.050
4 50% Armenian +50% Assyrian @ 3.341
5 50% Azeri_Jewish +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.433
6 50% Georgian_Jewish +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.031
7 50% Azeri_Jewish +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.531
8 50% Armenian +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.657
9 50% Armenian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.768
10 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.895
15400 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Armenian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.793
2 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.845
3 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.043
4 50% Armenian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.090
5 50% Assyrian +25% Armenian +25% Assyrian @ 2.199
6 50% Assyrian +25% Assyrian +25% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.250
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Abhkasian +25% Armenian @ 2.264
8 50% Armenian +25% Azeri_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.307
9 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Abhkasian +25% Georgian_Jewish @
2.345
10 50% Assyrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
61558 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 1.793
2 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 1.845
3 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.043
4 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.090
5 Abhkasian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.122
6 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.125
7 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian @ 2.199
8 Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.250
9 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.264
10 Armenian + Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.307
11 Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.312
12 Abhkasian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.345
13 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
14 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Samaritan @ 2.393
15 Assyrian + Assyrian + Azeri_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.403
16 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.436
17 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan @ 2.460
18 Abhkasian + Azeri_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.471
19 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.493
20 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.494

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

You're very Jewish.

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Off topic; post your own results.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 10.942
2 Romanian @ 12.032
3 Tuscan @ 12.597
4 Serbian @ 13.281
5 Bulgarian @ 13.845
6 French @ 14.893
7 Portuguese @ 15.270
8 Spanish_Extremadura @ 16.183
9 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.429
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.675
175 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% South_Italian @ 2.123
2 50% Dutch +50% South_Italian @ 2.221
3 50% Danish +50% South_Italian @ 3.272
4 50% Orcadian +50% South_Italian @ 3.548
5 50% Norwegian +50% South_Italian @ 3.591
6 50% Norwegian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.593
7 50% Dutch +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.657
8 50% South_Italian +50% Swedish @ 3.725
9 50% South_Italian +50% Southeast_English @ 3.772
10 50% Irish +50% South_Italian @ 3.800
15400 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 1.520
2 50% German +25% Lebanese_Muslim +25% North_Italian @ 1.675
3 50% Irish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 1.700
4 50% Dutch +25% Lebanese_Muslim +25% Tuscan @ 1.827
5 50% South_Italian +25% Dutch +25% German @ 1.888
6 50% Orcadian +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 1.905
7 50% Southwest_English +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 2.065
8 50% Danish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 2.072
9 50% South_Italian +25% German +25% Norwegian @ 2.085
10 50% South_Italian +25% Danish +25% German @ 2.098
511171 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cyprian + Greek + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.520
2 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + West_Scottish @ 1.568
3 Cyprian + Greek + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 1.575
4 Cyprian + Greek + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 1.602
5 Cyprian + Danish + Greek + West_Scottish @ 1.612
6 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + Southwest_English @ 1.614
7 Cyprian + Danish + Greek + Southwest_English @ 1.645
8 German + German + Lebanese_Muslim + North_Italian @ 1.675
9 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + Irish @ 1.700
10 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.708
11 German + Greek + Irish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.715
12 Cyprian + Danish + Greek + Irish @ 1.723
13 German + Lebanese_Muslim + Southwest_English + Tuscan @ 1.739
14 Cyprian + Greek + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 1.757
15 German + Irish + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian @ 1.760
16 German + Lebanese_Muslim + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 1.778
17 Cyprian + German + Irish + Tuscan @ 1.792
18 German + Irish + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan @ 1.808
19 Assyrian + Austrian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.822
20 Dutch + Dutch + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan @ 1.827

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Originally Posted by mrswan

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 17.28
2 West_Med 16.32
3 Baltic 16.28
4 East_Med 15.58
5 West_Asian 15.39
6 South_Asian 13.21
7 Red_Sea 2.72
8 East_Asian 2.08
9 Oceanian 1.15


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 17.072
2 Romanian @ 17.528
3 Greek @ 18.724
4 Serbian @ 20.602
5 Tuscan @ 22.207
6 North_Italian @ 23.820
7 Ashkenazi @ 24.453
8 South_Italian @ 24.867
9 Austrian @ 26.961
10 Hungarian @ 27.163
175 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +50% Tadjik @ 11.252
2 50% Tadjik +50% Tuscan @ 11.795
3 50% North_Italian +50% Pathan @ 12.093
4 50% Bulgarian +50% Tadjik @ 12.703
5 50% Pathan +50% Portuguese @ 12.874
6 50% Burusho +50% North_Italian @ 12.908
7 50% Romanian +50% Tadjik @ 12.920
8 50% Pathan +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 12.986
9 50% Pathan +50% Tuscan @ 13.009
10 50% Spanish_Galicia +50% Turkmen @ 13.037
15400 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Gujarati +25% Tuscan @ 3.303
2 50% Romanian +25% Bangladeshi +25% Greek @ 3.502
3 50% Bulgarian +25% Brahmin_UP +25% Greek @ 3.504
4 50% Bulgarian +25% Kshatriya +25% Tuscan @ 3.560
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Bangladeshi +25% Greek @ 3.668
6 50% Bulgarian +25% Bangladeshi +25% Tuscan @ 3.691
7 50% Greek +25% Bangladeshi +25% Hungarian @ 3.725
8 50% Bulgarian +25% Brahmin_UP +25% Tuscan @ 3.731
9 50% Greek +25% Austrian +25% Bangladeshi @ 3.753
10 50% Romanian +25% Brahmin_UP +25% Greek @ 3.803
797155 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Gujarati + Tuscan @ 3.303
2 Brahmin_UP + Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.374
3 Brahmin_UP + Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian @ 3.417
4 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Greek + Romanian @ 3.471
5 Cyprian + Gujarati + North_Italian + Ukrainian @ 3.479
6 Azeri_Jewish + Brahmin_UP + Estonian + Sardinian @ 3.483
7 Bangladeshi + Greek + Romanian + Romanian @ 3.502
8 Brahmin_UP + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Greek @ 3.504
9 Azeri_Jewish + Brahmin_UP + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.519
10 Brahmin_UP + Bulgarian + Greek + Romanian @ 3.544
11 Brahmin_UP + Estonian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.551
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Kshatriya + Tuscan @ 3.560
13 Brahmin_UP + Finnish + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.571
14 Cyprian + Gujarati + North_Italian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.579
15 Brahmin_UP + Greek + South_Italian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.579
16 Assyrian + Brahmin_UP + Estonian + Sardinian @ 3.608
17 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Greek + Serbian @ 3.616
18 Estonian + Lebanese_Muslim + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 3.625
19 Brahmin_UP + Greek + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 3.631
20 Azeri_Jewish + Belorussian + Brahmin_UP + Sardinian @ 3.644

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can any jewish type ancestry be inferred?

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Originally Posted by mrswan

can any jewish type ancestry be inferred?

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You have Azeri_Jewish but to be honest I don't think this test is very accurate. Look at my results. The K15 (from memory) test seems more accurate.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru

Eurogenes K13 Updated ADMIXTURE Proportions

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.83
2 West_Asian 34.23
3 West_Med 11.96
4 Red_Sea 8.31
5 South_Asian 2.25
6 North_Atlantic 1.72
7 Baltic 1.37
8 Oceanian 0.96
9 Northeast_African 0.26
10 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 2.55
2 Georgian_Jewish 3.57
3 Azeri_Jewish 4.01
4 Armenian 6.32
5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.62
6 Turkish 11.72
7 Kurdish 12.49
8 Syrian 12.74
9 Iranian 13.72
10 Lebanese_Druze 14.42
11 Cyprian 14.63
12 Lebanese_Christian 14.66
13 Samaritan 16.42
14 Jordanian 16.97
15 Palestinian 18.29
16 Georgian 22.18
17 Bedouin 22.3
18 Sephardic_Jewish 23.16
19 Abhkasian 23.23
20 Kumyk 23.33

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Assyrian +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
2 50% Assyrian +50% Assyrian @ 2.799
3 50% Assyrian +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 3.050
4 50% Armenian +50% Assyrian @ 3.341
5 50% Azeri_Jewish +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.433
6 50% Georgian_Jewish +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.031
7 50% Azeri_Jewish +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.531
8 50% Armenian +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.657
9 50% Armenian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.768
10 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.895
15400 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Armenian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.793
2 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.845
3 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.043
4 50% Armenian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.090
5 50% Assyrian +25% Armenian +25% Assyrian @ 2.199
6 50% Assyrian +25% Assyrian +25% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.250
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Abhkasian +25% Armenian @ 2.264
8 50% Armenian +25% Azeri_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.307
9 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Abhkasian +25% Georgian_Jewish @
2.345
10 50% Assyrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
61558 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 1.793
2 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 1.845
3 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.043
4 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.090
5 Abhkasian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.122
6 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.125
7 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian @ 2.199
8 Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.250
9 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.264
10 Armenian + Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.307
11 Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.312
12 Abhkasian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.345
13 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
14 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Samaritan @ 2.393
15 Assyrian + Assyrian + Azeri_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.403
16 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.436
17 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan @ 2.460
18 Abhkasian + Azeri_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.471
19 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.493
20 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.494

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Welcome to the tribe dude.

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You have Azeri_Jewish but to be honest I don't think this test is very accurate. Look at my results. The K15 (from memory) test seems more accurate.

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i also have georgian jewish and lebanese_muslim and greek and italian and spanish like you. i looked at your results yours also says greek and italian and lebanese_muslim

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i also have georgian jewish and lebanese_muslim and greek and italian and spanish like you. i looked at your results yours also says greek and italian and lebanese_muslim

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It's a substitutes for Levantine

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It's a substitutes for Levantine

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ok. but i think from results there could be jewish, ill leave it open. the results doesnt make it impossible that there is jewish i have similar results to anglo-jew except that he is half northern european and im balkan+southasian

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ok. but i think from results there could be jewish, ill leave it open. the results doesnt make it impossible that there is jewish i have similar results to anglo-jew except that he is half northern european and im balkan+southasian

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It's likely a mix that appears to be Jewish but isn't .

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It's likely a mix that appears to be Jewish but isn't .

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ok

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ok. but i think from results there could be jewish, ill leave it open. the results doesnt make it impossible that there is jewish i have similar results to anglo-jew except that he is half northern european and im balkan+southasian

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What about the other Eurogenes tests? Some seem more accurate to me.

ONEEYE:

North_Atlantic 46.78%
Baltic 23.29%
West_Med 13.14%
West_Asian 7.82%
East_Med 5.64%
Red_Sea 0.48%
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.94%
Oceanian 0.87%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle:

1 German 3.57
2 Dutch 4.66
3 Southeast_English 4.8
4 Orcadian 5.84
5 Danish 6.07
6 Irish 6.37
7 Southwest_English 6.51
8 West_Scottish 7.06
9 Norwegian 8.46
10 Swedish 9.21

Oracle 4

1 Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.715
2 Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.751
3 Irish + Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.837
4 Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.873
5 Irish + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.874

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.02%
1 German 45.99%
2 West_Scottish 20.33%
3 Southeast_English 10.60%
4 Swedish 7.13%
5 French_Basque 5.98%
6 Lezgin 4.32%
7 Spanish_Aragon 4.20%
8 Mayan 1.01%
9 Chechen 0.41%
10 Turkish 0.01%

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 German 48.41%
2 West_Scottish 41.28%
3 Tuscan 4.83%
4 Lezgin 2.69%
5 French_Basque 1.53%
6 Mayan 1.26%
7 Bulgarian 0.00%
8 Greek 0.00%
9 Sephardic_Jewish 0.00%
10 South_Italian 0.00%




ONEEYE'S MOTHER:

North_Atlantic 45.09%
Baltic 27.61%
West_Med 11.74%
West_Asian 7.60%
East_Med 4.72%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.43%
Amerindian 1.57%
Oceanian 0.46%
Northeast_African 0.79%
Sub-Saharan -


Oracle:

1 German @ 3.091
2 Dutch @ 4.358
3 Swedish @ 6.706
4 Norwegian @ 6.864
5 Danish @ 7.446
6 Orcadian @ 7.730
7 Southeast_English @ 7.899
8 Irish @ 8.552
9 West_Scottish @ 9.663
10 Southwest_English @ 9.993

1 German + German + German + Swedish @ 2.158
2 Austrian + German + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.246
3 Austrian + German + Irish + Swedish @ 2.250
4 German + Hungarian + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.259
5 Austrian + German + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.341
6 German + Hungarian + Irish + Swedish @ 2.352
7 Austrian + Dutch + Irish + Swedish @ 2.359
8 German + Hungarian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.362
9 German + Hungarian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.391
10 Austrian + German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.398


Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 German 62.93%
2 Swedish 23.97%
3 Irish 5.27%
4 Chuvash 2.57%
5 Finnish 1.80%
6 Spanish_Andalucia 1.27%
7 Balkar 1.10%
8 Karitiana 1.08%
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.00%
10 Mari 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 German 68.55%
2 Swedish 26.87%
3 Chechen 2.01%
4 Finnish 1.67%
5 Karitiana 0.87%
6 Bulgarian 0.01%
7 Romanian 0.01%
8 Serbian 0.01%
9 Chuvash 0.00%
10 Balkar 0.00%

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What about the other Eurogenes tests? Some seem more accurate to me.

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on K15 V2 im 50% Ashkenazi Jewish. Aussie said that is most fair for me on 23andme. I dont know.

I just saw how to get my Oracle results My results:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Greenlander 43.78
2 East_Greenlander 49.17
3 Spanish_Extremadura 50.23
4 North_Italian 50.27
5 Portuguese 50.31
6 Romanian 50.31
7 Tuscan 50.36
8 Bulgarian 50.46
9 Spanish_Galicia 50.65
10 Spanish_Murcia 50.67
11 North_Amerindian 51.17
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 51.2
13 Serbian 51.41
14 Greek 51.51
15 Spanish_Andalucia 51.58
16 Spanish_Valencia 51.59
17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 51.75
18 Spanish_Cataluna 51.76
19 Algerian 51.84
20 French 51.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Spanish_Galicia + 46.2% Mayan @ 10.21
2 53.9% Portuguese + 46.1% Mayan @ 10.23
3 54% Spanish_Extremadura + 46% Mayan @ 10.39
4 53.8% Spanish_Murcia + 46.2% Mayan @ 10.55
5 53.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 46.5% Mayan @ 10.65
6 55.5% Spanish_Galicia + 44.5% Pima @ 10.71
7 55.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 44.3% Pima @ 10.78
8 55.7% Portuguese + 44.3% Pima @ 10.78
9 54% North_Italian + 46% Mayan @ 10.96
10 53.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 46.7% Mayan @ 11
11 53.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 46.8% Mayan @ 11.02
12 55.5% Spanish_Murcia + 44.5% Pima @ 11.04
13 55.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 44.8% Pima @ 11.14
14 53.3% Spanish_Valencia + 46.7% Mayan @ 11.21
15 53.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 46.8% Mayan @ 11.3
16 55.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 44.9% Pima @ 11.31
17 53.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 46.9% Mayan @ 11.57
18 55% Spanish_Cataluna + 45% Pima @ 11.57
19 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Pima @ 11.59
20 59.9% Spanish_Galicia + 40.1% Karitiana @ 11.62

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on K15 V2 im 50% Ashkenazi Jewish. Aussie said that is most fair for me on 23andme. I dont know.

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Excactly. That was the test I personally found most accurate. I think you're probably 1/4 Jewish in reality but who knows.

here is my harappa world it is good for southasians and also my mdlp which is good for eastern euros
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 23.93
2 Caucasian 23.47
3 Mediterranean 21.36
4 Baloch 12.30
5 S-Indian 11.00
6 SW-Asian 5.03
7 Papuan 1.06
8 NE-Asian 0.93
9 American 0.92


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 romanian-b @ 16.790
2 romanian-a @ 17.307
3 tuscan @ 17.879
4 tuscan @ 17.942
5 bulgarian @ 18.122
6 tuscan @ 18.154
7 ashkenazi @ 19.049
8 ashkenazy-jew @ 20.881
9 italian @ 21.192
10 serbian @ 21.943
377 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a +50% romanian-b @ 5.004
2 50% romanian-b +50% serbian @ 6.052
3 50% bulgarian +50% romanian-b @ 6.068
4 50% italian +50% romanian-b @ 6.196
5 50% sephardic-jew +50% singapore-indian-d @ 7.585
6 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% singapore-indian-d @ 7.611
7 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.613
8 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.683
9 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.912
10 50% french +50% romanian-b @ 8.200
71253 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% tuscan +25% bengali-brahmin +25% bulgarian @ 1.890
2 50% tuscan +25% brahmin-uttar-pradesh +25% bulgarian @ 1.918
3 50% bulgarian +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 1.984
4 50% tuscan +25% bengali-brahmin +25% bulgarian @ 1.987
5 50% tuscan +25% bulgarian +25% vaish @ 2.023
6 50% tuscan +25% bihari-muslim +25% bulgarian @ 2.031
7 50% tuscan +25% bihari-muslim +25% bulgarian @ 2.031
8 50% tuscan +25% brahmin-uttar-pradesh +25% bulgarian @ 2.075
9 50% bulgarian +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 2.076
10 50% romanian-a +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 2.121
5266372 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.890
2 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 1.915
3 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.918
4 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.928
5 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 1.961
6 bulgarian + bulgarian + cochin-jew + tuscan @ 1.984
7 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.987
8 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.987
9 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.020
10 bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan + vaish @ 2.023
11 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.031
12 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.031
13 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.057
14 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.075
15 bulgarian + bulgarian + cochin-jew + tuscan @ 2.076
16 bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan + vaish @ 2.077
17 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 2.091
18 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.115
19 cochin-jew + romanian-a + romanian-a + tuscan @ 2.121
20 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.125

could the tuscan be a substitute for jewish? how tuscan, that is italian

mdlp world22
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 27.68
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.72
3 West-Asian 18.82
4 Indian 11.57
5 Near_East 9.72
6 Indo-Iranian 1.51
7 East-South-Asian 1.39
8 Samoedic 0.96
9 North-European-Mesolithic 0.89
10 Austronesian 0.75


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romania @ 13.754
2 Greek_South @ 14.868
3 Gagauz @ 15.423
4 Greek_North @ 15.573
5 Ashkenazim_V @ 15.682
6 Bulgarian @ 17.343
7 Tatar_Crim @ 17.502
8 Jew_Romania @ 18.544
9 Greek_Center @ 18.837
10 Macedonian @ 19.290
276 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Macedonian +50% Roma @ 4.173
2 50% Bulgarian +50% Roma @ 4.462
3 50% Roma +50% Serbian @ 4.727
4 50% Gagauz +50% Roma @ 4.990
5 50% Montenegrin +50% Roma @ 5.110
6 50% Bosnian +50% Roma @ 5.673
7 50% Roma +50% Romania @ 6.591
8 50% Croatian +50% Roma @ 6.781
9 50% Hungarian +50% Roma @ 7.241
10 50% Austrian +50% Roma @ 7.978
38226 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +25% Greek_Center +25% Jew_India @ 1.656
2 50% Serbian +25% Greek_East +25% Jew_India @ 1.695
3 50% Montenegrin +25% Ashkenazim_V +25% Jew_India @ 1.725
4 50% Serbian +25% Greek_South +25% Jew_India @ 1.849
5 50% Serbian +25% Italian-Center +25% Jew_India @ 1.856
6 50% Serbian +25% Jew_India +25% Jew_Romania @ 1.866
7 50% Gagauz +25% Jew_India +25% Swiss @ 1.904
8 50% Montenegrin +25% Greek_South +25% Jew_India @ 1.909
9 50% Italian-Center +25% Jew_India +25% Polish @ 1.963
10 50% Macedonian +25% Ashkenazim_V +25% Jew_India @ 1.986
3264784 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-West @ 1.458
2 Jew_India + Jew_Romania + Kosovar + Ukrainian-West @ 1.469
3 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian_V @ 1.483
4 Greek_Center + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-West @ 1.499
5 Greek_Cretan + Jew_India + Provancestralal + Ukrainian-West @ 1.506
6 Greek_Center + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian_V @ 1.514
7 Hungarian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.517
8 Czech + Gagauz + Italian-South + Jew_India @ 1.534
9 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.535
10 Bosnian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Serbian @ 1.541
11 Hungarian + Italian-Center + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.551
12 Croatian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.559
13 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Italian-Center + Jew_India @ 1.564
14 Italian-South + Jew_India + Latvian_V + Provancestralal @ 1.566
15 Jew_India + Jew_Romania + Kosovar + Ukrainian_V @ 1.566
16 Bulgarian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Slovenian @ 1.570
17 Greek_South + Jew_India + Macedonian + Serbian @ 1.571
18 Croatian + Italian-Center + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.578
19 Greek_South + Jew_India + Montenegrin + Serbian @ 1.579
20 Italian-North + Italian-South + Jew_India + Ukrainian-East @ 1.585

i dont know what the greek and italian substitutes, but there is indian type ancestry and either balkan or jewish, it is hard to tell i guess when you are southeuropean with roma because it could be a mix which is similar to jewish, i guess in northern europeans it is easier to tell

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can any jewish type ancestry be inferred?

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These tests aren't designed for predicting what your ethnicity is, it's for analyzing your genetic affinities to populations in the database.

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These tests aren't designed for predicting what your ethnicity is, it's for analyzing your genetic affinities to populations in the database.

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how can i know if im jewish?

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Welcome to the tribe dude.

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I'm not Jewish, it's just all those populations convey enough genetic similarity to Assyrians, to be used as substitutes for them.

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how can i know if im jewish?

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Self reflection.

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how can i know if im jewish?

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Are most people in your Relative Finder Jewish or partly Jewish? If so, then you probably have Jewish ancestry. If not, then no, all it typifies is similarity.

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Are most people in your Relative Finder Jewish or partly Jewish? If so, then you probably have Jewish ancestry. If not, then no, all it typifies is similarity.

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I dont know what most people in my relatives list are. I have 795 relatives and had maybe contact to 5 people or so

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fun

http://i42.tinypic.com/mtatlx.png

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Interesting. I thought you were Anatolian Turk.

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It's a substitutes for Levantine

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Spanish and Italian is de facto Southern Euro whereas Lebanese_Muslim and Georgian_Jewish is quite Iranid shifted, so no, they can't be substitutes for Levantine.

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These tests aren't designed for predicting what your ethnicity is, it's for analyzing your genetic affinities to populations in the database.

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I think it's a combination of both, actually.

If someone has jewish admixture it don't make you a jewish, sorry. now cry me a river, gua gua

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I think it's a combination of both, actually.

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No they're not, because they measure distant relationships between populations.

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on K15 V2 im 50% Ashkenazi Jewish. Aussie said that is most fair for me on 23andme. I dont know.

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Post the results? for the 50% Ashkenazi Jewish?

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No they're not, because they measure distant relationships between populations.

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If an ethnicity keeps showing up on every test chances are you just might have it.

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If an ethnicity keeps showing up on every test chances are you just might have it.

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No you don't, there are specific tests for that such as IBD tests. Which do measure genetic relatedness, these calculators don't exactly do that. If they did, I'd have people of all those ethnicities in my Relative Finder lists. Which I don't.

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Spanish and Italian is de facto Southern Euro whereas Lebanese_Muslim and Georgian_Jewish is quite Iranid shifted, so no, they can't be substitutes for Levantine.

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So they're Southern proxies ?