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I don't think it's about a SSA admixture. I've been to Morocco 4 times two of which I was alone (when I was abt. 20). To me it comes from the "White" Berbers, from folks with the vibe like Zinedine Zidane. There is some boundaryless explosvie aggressiveness about him and no crazy massacre in the context of such folks would surprise me. Personally, I can not read them, their inner life is alien to me and I sense much the unpredictabily and that something is "wrong" with them. Everything is possible.
And true, original, peninsular Arabs are not like that to my perception. They can be hard and cruel but they don't seem prone to such sicko face-to-face massacres. Also, Osama bin Laden would not have been.
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btw, in your reply to Alenka about nafri conditions it seems little unfair to say to only accuse berbers of eg. Police brutality or berber like conditions where human right don't exist.
what about Gestapo who tortured people all over Europe? What about inquisition whose torture methods are chilling to this day?
Seems Europeans could change. So how can we be sure in Nafris it's genetic and can't be changed?
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European immigration It's a desperate policy and they were accepting any people that showed up.
The European population is aging with an average of 50 years. Pensions can no longer be paid and there will be a large public debt. With an economic recession caused by pensions, the little workforce that exists has no job. Problems with immigrants and a minor problem for a future of serious crisis. European products are overpriced and get ready for future `Detroids`
The greatest wealth in the world is in Asia. China, Indonesia, neighboring countries and India have great growth potential. Many African countries grow their economy by 5% per year. Brazil must continue to be the 2nd world without improving, exporting food to China, I don't think we could be anything else. China built a hospital with 15,000 beds for coronavirus in just 5 days, I don't think we could dream of achieving this.
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only a forced and muscled massive remigration by coercitive measures of all the non european populations could solve the problems ,without all the endless cryers like the human rights league,the endless crying jews, the endless crying communists and all their leftie sidekicks , we don't need to be replaced by low IQs ,we need to have them in their countries developping their countries on some standards of economical,ethics and values, but with the muslim world it's very quite complicated
did you see now the great replacement and the shock of the civilisations, still not yet?
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Oswald Spengler, Arab culture and our decline
Had he seen it all coming?
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"I call historical pseudomorphosis," writes Spengler, "the cases in which an old foreign culture covers the ground with such power that it prevents a young culture from breathing... Instead of the momentum in height, only the sap of hatred feeds gigantic branches against the distant force. Such is the case of Arab culture. »
Spengler ranks the Arab or "magical" culture among the eight high cultures that he reviews, with among others "the Faustian" (Occident since the year 1000) or "the Apollonian" (Greco-Roman antiquity) ... The Arab-magical culture encompasses according to him all the religions of the Aramaic landscape, including Judaism and primitive Christianity, and that is why, he says, only "a pious Muslim would be able to approach a little the mentality of Jesus. "In this "Aramaic landscape", Muhammad appears to liberate the Arab culture chained by pseudomorphosis and "this deliverance of magical humanity is without example in history ... Islam must be considered as the puritanism of the total group of previous magical religions ... It is in this deeper sense, and not only in its warlike fury, that is the enigma of its fabulous success. "The eminent essayist Hichem Djaďt believes, despite reservations, that Spengler's vision "has the merit of explaining many things about the renewal of the Persian-Arab-Aramaic East at the end of the first millennium BC [...] and about a continuity that Islam has vivified. »
The "me" does not exist in Islam
Spengler's lighting reveals the inner kinship of Islam and Anglo-Saxon Protestantism: Milton's "Paradise Lost", many suras of the Koran, – - all this is one and the same thing: the enthusiasm of a down-to-earth spirit, the cold ardor, the withered mysticism, the pedantic ecstasy. The doctrine of Islam with its harsh rationalism, is as sad and fiendish as that of the Westminster catechism in 1643. "We find many illustrations of it in Victorian novelists, such as this tasty dialogue that opens The Mill on George Eliott's Floss during which Bessy apostrophes her husband: "These beautiful sheets from Holland, I would repent of having bought them, if it were not that they must be used to wrap our bodies. If you were to die tomorrow, Mr. Tulliver, they are superbly calendered and ready, with a lavender smell that it would be a pleasure to use them. "This concern for the shroud, maintained by mothers in the most modest or least practicing households, will not surprise anyone who grew up in a Muslim family.
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I did not even mention Berbers in that reply. I now mentioned them by dealing with your SSA admixture question. And I never spoke of "only". Saddams Hussein's son Uday had nothing to do with Berbers. Here are pages of descriptions of voluntary personal killing and mutiliation acts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_H...Iraqi_athletes
The big difference is that neither the Gestapo nor the inquisition tortured for own satisfaction (except for one or another sadist that may have found his way to there) but for achieving an other goal. In both cases it was not about lawless measures with the possibility of arbitrary doings. In earlier times, like in the inquisition but as well in the penal law torture was a foreseen measure because you regularly had no other forensic evidence than a confession. This torture was not performed arbitrarily or for pleasing anyone's sadistic needs but for finding out the truth and then doing justice.
No, I don't see that they changed. Science has made progress so you don't need a confession anymore and the situation is relaxed after all and this is the main reason why European state institutions don't torture anymore. Another reason is that it is not reliable and produces wrong confessions. When it was not relaxed for the Americans (of European descent) after 9-11 they started torturing again with waterboarding etc. But not because they liked such acting.
It's genetic in both compared meta populations and in both it can not be changed and also has not been changed. This is, however, what the facts strongly suggest. Nafri massacres were committed because people wanted to massacre and not to find out something. Carrying out a massacre was what motivated and satisfied those doing it. That's the principal difference.
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