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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Come to think of it, it is almost nonsensical to lump West African and Khoisan together. Genetically they're probably further from each other than any Europeans are from each other. There is great genetic diversity in Africa.
    Well, they are both SSA, geographically speaking. Although the Khoisan is definitely not Bantu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimiera View Post
    Well, they are both SSA, geographically speaking. Although the Khoisan is definitely not Bantu.
    The Khoisan - I have heard - are the "oldest" human branch in existence genetically today. Their DNA is ancestral to all three/four major races on earth today - including Mongoloid and European. They even show some Mongoloid traits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Khoisan - I have heard - are the "oldest" human branch in existence genetically today. Their DNA is ancestral to all three/four major races on earth today - including Mongoloid and European. They even show some Mongoloid traits.
    Turn that around. Mongoloids show San traits! Yes, they are the oldest branch, if we are going to go with the Out Of Africa theory.

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    My globe 4

    93.63% European
    3.16% African
    2.75% Asian
    0.46% Amerindian

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    My mom's dodecad v3 oracle results without Ashkenazim and Moroccan Jews:

    [1,] "37.2% Lebanese + 62.8% Tuscan_X" "4.5082"
    [2,] "38.6% Lebanese + 61.4% Tuscan_H" "5.0194"
    [3,] "36.8% Palestinian + 63.2% Tuscan_X" "5.0829"
    [4,] "39.2% Lebanese + 60.8% TSI" "5.1562"
    [5,] "33.9% Jordanians_19 + 66.1% Tuscan_X" "5.5042"
    [6,] "34.9% Samaritians + 65.1% Tuscan_X" "5.5735"
    [7,] "50.7% Lebanese + 49.3% N_Italian_D" "5.589"
    [8,] "38.3% Palestinian + 61.7% Tuscan_H" "5.6279"
    [9,] "57.7% Georgia_Jews + 42.3% Portuguese_D" "5.6555"
    [10,] "38.9% Palestinian + 61.1% TSI" "5.6634"
    [11,] "32.7% Syrians + 67.3% Tuscan_X" "5.7821"
    [12,] "19.1% FIN + 80.9% Sephardic_Jews" "5.8105"
    [13,] "18.3% Finnish_D + 81.7% Sephardic_Jews" "5.8768"
    [14,] "49.5% N_Italian_D + 50.5% Palestinian" "5.9526"
    [15,] "65.1% Cypriots + 34.9% N._European" "5.9934"
    [16,] "65.5% Cypriots + 34.5% German_D" "5.9956"
    [17,] "49.5% Georgia_Jews + 50.5% N_Italian_D" "6.0077"
    [18,] "53.7% N_Italian_D + 46.3% Syrians" "6.0212"
    [19,] "71.5% Cypriots + 28.5% Swedish_D" "6.0329"
    [20,] "35.9% Jordanians_19 + 64.1% TSI" "6.0434"

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    Dodecad v3 Oracle seems to think I'm a Scotsman.

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 CEU (HapMap) 2.63
    2 N._European (Xing) 4.05
    3 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 4.38
    4 Orcadian (HGDP) 4.5
    5 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 4.87
    6 German (Dodecad) 7.5
    7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.2
    8 French (HGDP) 9.34
    9 French (Dodecad) 9.83
    10 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.34
    11 Kent (1000 Genomes) 12.46
    12 British_Isles (Dodecad) 14.3
    13 British (Dodecad) 14.41
    14 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 14.93
    15 Slovenian (Xing) 15.69
    16 Irish (Dodecad) 17.25
    17 Swedish (Dodecad) 17.66
    18 Norwegian (Dodecad) 18.42
    19 Hungarians (Behar) 19.92
    20 French_Basque (HGDP) 21.03

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.4% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 12.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.77
    2 88.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 0.8
    3 92.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 7.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.87
    4 89.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.89
    5 92% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.94
    6 85.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 14.8% TSI (HapMap) @ 0.94
    7 85.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 14.8% Tuscan (Henn) @ 0.97
    8 89% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 0.97
    9 85.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 14.9% Tuscan (Xing) @ 0.98
    10 96.2% CEU (HapMap) + 3.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.99

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    The Oracles for some of the projects (Dodecad and MDLP) are a bit messed up because we were not included in the actual runs. British Isles and Kent also comes around 14th on my Oracle on that, which is clearly wrong. So you can only really compare those results to others who weren't included in the run.

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    ----------Globe13----------
    46.56% West_Asian
    22.57% Mediterranean
    17.97% Southwest_Asian
    4.91% North_European
    4.78% South_Asian
    1.00% Arctic
    0.86% Amerindian
    0.72% Siberian
    0.30% East_Asian
    0.09% West_African
    0.21% Australasian
    0.02% East_African
    0.00% Palaeo_African

    ----------K12b----------
    42.04% Caucasus
    24.33% Gedrosia
    13.46% Southwest_Asian
    9.26% Atlantic_Med
    5.86% North_European
    2.46% South_Asian
    1.17% Siberian
    0.72% East_Asian
    0.41% Southeast_Asian
    0.29% Northwest_African
    0.00% East_African
    0.00% Sub_Saharan

    ----------K7b----------
    49.79% West_Asian
    30.34% Southern
    12.65% Atlantic_Baltic
    5.15% South_Asian
    1.24% Siberian
    0.71% East_Asian
    0.12% African

    ----------weac----------
    60.71% Near-East
    33.55% Atlantic-Baltic
    5.54% Far-East
    0.20% Africa

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    Globe 13
    51.26% North_European
    29.02% Mediterranean
    10.91% West_Asian
    6.71% Southwest_Asian
    0.98% East_Asian
    0.57% Arctic
    0.36% Siberian
    0.16% Australasian
    0.04% Amerindian
    0.00% East_African
    0.00% Palaeo_African
    0.00% South_Asian
    0.00% East_African
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    My Dodecad V3 results:

    Population
    West_European 41.36%
    Mediterranean 28.29%
    West_Asian 13.09%
    East_European 10.87%
    Southwest_Asian 3.30%
    Northwest_African 1.57%
    Northeast_Asian 1.07%
    South_Asian 0.39%
    Palaeo_African 0.05%




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    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Slovenian (Xing) 11.88
    2 CEU (HapMap) 12.83
    3 N._European (Xing) 13.5
    4 French (HGDP) 13.71
    5 French (Dodecad) 14.01
    6 German (Dodecad) 14.24
    7 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 14.54
    8 Orcadian (HGDP) 14.98
    9 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 15.33
    10 Tuscan (Henn) 15.45
    11 Tuscan (Xing) 15.46
    12 TSI (HapMap) 15.55
    13 Hungarians (Behar) 15.61
    14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.29
    15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 18.71
    16 Portuguese (Dodecad) 19.45
    17 Dutch (Dodecad) 20.14
    18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.95
    19 Romanians_14 (Behar) 21.16
    20 Spaniards (Behar) 21.57

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 69.8% N._European (Xing) + 30.2% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.66
    2 52.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.83
    3 52.1% German (Dodecad) + 47.9% Tuscan (Xing) @ 1.85
    4 52.3% German (Dodecad) + 47.7% TSI (HapMap) @ 2.19
    5 53.4% Swedish (Dodecad) + 46.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.43
    6 65.5% CEU (HapMap) + 34.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.48
    7 75.8% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 24.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.5
    8 52.1% German (Dodecad) + 47.9% Tuscan (Henn) @ 2.51
    9 54.7% Swedish (Dodecad) + 45.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.55
    10 71.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.57
    11 78.1% CEU (HapMap) + 21.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.57
    12 68.9% German (Dodecad) + 31.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.59
    13 68.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 31.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.64
    14 71% German (Dodecad) + 29% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.69
    15 62.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 37.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.7
    16 66.9% CEU (HapMap) + 33.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.75
    17 61.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 38.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.76
    18 71.1% N._European (Xing) + 28.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.79
    19 65.1% German (Dodecad) + 34.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.85
    20 74.8% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 25.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.86

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