Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

[Dema]

I dont know. I just think you wouldnt plot where you plot In that map. Neither you, kurt or gashi.

Bro i think ur too much into autosomal conspiracy theories I mean we can try other calcs why not, also its not wonder if other calc will show different results, but we should still as a group plot together.
Also dont ruin my trip for ploting so good! MR. my closest autosomal DNA relative : D

[Lek]

Bro i think ur too much into autosomal conspiracy theories I mean we can try other calcs why not, also its not wonder if other calc will show different results, but we should still as a group plot together.
Also dont ruin my trip for ploting so good! MR. my closest autosomal DNA relative : D

Lol. Whats your problem? Youre stupid as fuck obviously to call it a conspiracy. Stupid as fuck like most Albanians on here getting north west euro, central euro, slavic, jewish, african on DNA test. How does plotting with them mean anything if its accurate?

They cannot plot there. How the fuck can they plot with cretans?

When petalpusher put the gashi on the map he plotted next to me. You really must be blind. Kurt on 23andme plotted West of where leki is. Idont give a shit if i ruin your trip. I guess you have insecurities. Never said we wouldnt plot together dude. Just different. You plot where you plot based on the different mixture you are. Sardinian will pull you south west. Slavic will pull you north /east + south euro Balkan, north west etc etc how can you not fucking understand this. Tell me, where would the least mixed Albanian plot? Cos most of you get more mixed results than me. Except few like ylla and leap who get less east euro but more mena on ftdna. But leap gets much less balkan than both of us.

Kurt gets less mixed results too. If we are both pred. Balkan we should plot very close me and him. And every other north albo who gets 90% + balkan.

If he did ftdna and it goes max 1000 years back, how much east euro would he score if his paternal ancestors were slavs? Surely he should still be more north than that. Hes from north albania. . 1000 years ago his ancestors must of been more northern plotting but was pulled very south from Balkan admix. And this if the east euro is slavic. So they became pred. Balkan. Where this mena came from too?


Hop off my dick a little bit. Anyone who disagrees with me can suck my dick. Youre all mixed as fuck anyway like every other balkanite, so were your ancestors before that, but you have this dream of pure bloodedness. I dont give a shit if im mixed. Nothing bad about it. I was just interested to see how much of a genetic continuity there is when i came to this.

Not my problem i ruined your autosomal dreams. And the fuclkibg pseudoscience.

.go count your i2a relatives and r1a on ftdna now.

Youre all fucking faggots. I despise most of you. Arguing over whos more lighter while calling others gypsies but getting mixed DNA tests.

Shit man i dont phantasize of albos looking like Scandinavians.

[Voskos]

the fuck? where do you see anyone plotting with cretans?

[Dema]

Lol. Whats your problem? Youre stupid as fuck obviously to call it a conspiracy. Stupid as fuck like most Albanians on here getting north west euro, central euro, slavic, jewish, african on DNA test. How does plotting with them mean anything if its accurate?

They cannot plot there. How the fuck can they plot with cretans?

When petalpusher put the gashi on the map he plotted next to me. You really must be blind. Kurt on 23andme plotted West of where leki is. Idont give a shit if i ruin your trip. I guess you have insecurities. Never said we wouldnt plot together dude. Just different. You plot where you plot based on the different mixture you are. Sardinian will pull you south west. Slavic will pull you north /east + south euro Balkan, north west etc etc how can you not fucking understand this. Tell me, where would the least mixed Albanian plot? Cos most of you get more mixed results than me. Except few like ylla and leap who get less east euro but more mena on ftdna. But leap gets much less balkan than both of us.

Kurt gets less mixed results too. If we are both pred. Balkan we should plot very close me and him. And every other north albo who gets 90% + balkan.

If he did ftdna and it goes max 1000 years back, how much east euro would he score if his paternal ancestors were slavs? Surely he should still be more north than that. Hes from north albania. . 1000 years ago his ancestors must of been more northern plotting but was pulled very south from Balkan admix. And this if the east euro is slavic. So they became pred. Balkan. Where this mena came from too?


Hop off my dick a little bit. Anyone who disagrees with me can suck my dick. Youre all mixed as fuck anyway like every other balkanite, so were your ancestors before that, but you have this dream of pure bloodedness. I dont give a shit if im mixed. Nothing bad about it. I was just interested to see how much of a genetic continuity there is when i came to this.

Not my problem i ruined your autosomal dreams. And the fuclkibg pseudoscience.

.go count your i2a relatives and r1a on ftdna now.

Youre all fucking faggots. I despise most of you. Arguing over whos more lighter while calling others gypsies but getting mixed DNA tests.

Shit man i dont phantasize of albos looking like Scandinavians.

lol that part was a joke bro, i mean i dont give a fuck how i plot with others and nor i have some special trip about it except we can have some fantasies and jokes with it.
Its obvious that you take this much more serious and these last few days your brain is just boiling over it, even tho i dont understand why?

As for other part of msg i see that you are in rage again so i wont even comment it, i would just advice you not to ban yourself again, stay calm, breath normally. It will go away

[HellLander87]

Albanians are a FAKE , FAILING and quickly FADING AWAY people. 70% of able bodied albanians live abroad. At best their grandchildren will develop some psychological traumas if they ever learn that they have albanian roots. At the same time in Albania gypsy population increases rapidly and there is HUGE intermarriage between the very different tosks and ghegs.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Why is there I2a1 in South Albania? Well, you see son, when a man loves a woman....

Says a guy whose nation is cucked by all, Slavs, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks.

Some of I2b comes from assimilated Bulgarians, not that they took Albanian bride and turned magically Albanian right after, if anything this may be the case for Albanian men but never have stumble upon any article about opposite.

[Dema]

[The Illyrian Warrior]

UPDATE:

From this study, Bosch, E.; Calafell, F.; González-Neira, A.; Flaiz, C; Mateu, E; Scheil, HG; Huckenbeck, W; Efremovska, L; et al. (2006). "Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns". Annals of Human Genetics, the i2a1 in southern Albania is due to the Vlachs, some groups have over 40% of it. But I still find it strange as to why they have such high levels of it, regarding their proximity to Croatia and Bosnia.

This makes more sense then associating I2b with Slavs (I made a mistake too) given that Vlachs were very well distributed across Southern Albania also intermarried with Albanians.

Herzegovina region where's the I2b hotspot was historically a Vlach settlement hotspot.

[Voskos]

Vlachs=Dacians mixed with Goths,Romans and Slavs. The term vlach is very derogatory.

[Dema]

Vlachs=Dacians mixed with Goths,Romans and Slavs. The term vlach is very derogatory.

Vlach has two meaning one is how Slavs called the population they found when arrived on Balkan, including Albanians.
Others is more proper one, Aromun. They are Roman - Illyrian - Slavic mix and their language comes out of Latin just as Romanian does. Aromanian and Romanian languages have split one from another in 9th century.

This is what wikipedia says about etymology: The word "Vlach" is of Germanic origin, an early loanword into Proto-Slavic from Germanic *Walhaz ("foreigner" or "stranger") and used by ancient Germanic peoples for their Romance-speaking and (Romanized) Celtic neighbours.

Also Bosnjaks use it to offend Serbs:

in Bosnia and Herzegovina ("Vlah", plural "Vlasi") when referring to highlanders and shepherds (often, in earlier times, regardless of religious adherence even) of Dinarides area; later, depending on context, it also became a derogatory term used to label ethnic Serbs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs#Etymology