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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Yes it seems so. Baltic or Baltic Finnic? Ward's Dendrogram for Niem_34 (made by Mlukas):



    Niemcza people also had raher unusual skulls when compared to other Early Medieval Poles:

    https://www.academia.edu/31578238/Bi...raits_analysis

    Since it's 900-1000 AD, maybe Magyars? Poland has 10% N1c from somewhere. Probably more Magyar admixture than Hungary.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Since it's 900-1000 AD, maybe Magyars? Poland has 10% N1c from somewhere. Probably more Magyar admixture than Hungary.
    Not Magyars, that's the stupidest thing I heard hehe

    Niemsza look like some Baltic tribe, Yotvingians or something.

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    Generally those results are of course from smaller number of snps. And in such case minor regional components are usually lacking. But those which stayed show obvious trends in specific genomes. If somebody was mostly NW-Euro he has elevated to enormous level North Sea frequency for example, but I'm sure with bigger number of snps he would be still NW-Euro but more averaged.

    I agree that Niemcza looks Baltic influneces from some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cniva View Post
    He was north-east Bulgarian but his dad was a Ostrogoth.


    1. If father was a Goth, how on earth he wasn't?!
    2. How could he be a Bulgarian, if father was a Goth?
    3. More than that - how could he be a Bulgarian, if Bułgarians didn't yet arrived there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cniva View Post
    (hleb - hleifs - bread)
    And becasue of this, every Pole is buying a Lord or couple of Lords every day...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Well, all Slavs say hleb/chelb/leb for a loaf of bread except for Croats.
    And Russkies, becasue they call by chleb mainly a corn/grain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Since it's 900-1000 AD, maybe Magyars? Poland has 10% N1c from somewhere. Probably more Magyar admixture than Hungary.


    In majority of researches was 0.5-1.5% (usually around 1%).
    Lastly Leftpedia changed on 4%... thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post


    In majority of researches was 0.5-1.5% (usually around 1%).
    Lastly Leftpedia changed on 4%... thats all.
    lol, look closer to their (Polish) phenotypes, wild small eyes etc., Poland has Ugro-Finnic people, 4% is +/- good number

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cniva View Post
    Not Magyars, that's the stupidest thing I heard hehe
    Acually we had some hungarian settlement, especially in southern Poland, but also farther,
    sometimes leaving behind place's names containgng ther ethnonim, but not always, BUT 1.
    impact of general population was very low, becasue the settlement was very few in number
    comparing to general population 2. 99.53% of so called Hungarians is not original, i.e. has
    different than N hg, 3. majority of polish N is living rather on the north than on the south,
    so lofgically, they came rather from people colse to Esthonians and Livs, than Magyars.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gianluigi View Post
    4% is +/- good number
    According to FT DNA it has 4.45, but it is not representative, and containing mostly pre-IIWW population.

    Lebusland has from example 100% of R1 and only 8 specimens

    So, real % of N is probably lower I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gianluigi View Post
    lol, look closer to their (Polish) phenotypes, wild small eyes etc., Poland has Ugro-Finnic people, 4% is +/- good number
    Jak ci?


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    Polish N-hat, called Magierka (i.e. Magyar hat).
    Different types depending on original N subethnic root














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