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[RN97]

European neolithic/med ancestry isn't the same to what Arabs have, their neolithic is more Caucasian related, while ours is Sardinian.

It's the same. Sardinians today are ~45% basal and ~55% Euro HG, they have pretty much no ANE. That's what this "early European farmer" is like. It's just getting the admixture from an already admixed source rather than the pure source.

[Jana]

Caucasian is not really that basal (its 50% ANE), Near Eastern / Natufian however is very basal in comparison (Around 80% compared to 45 - 50% in Caucasian). Anatolian_NF can be found at reasonable amounts in the Middle East (haven't seen it peak over 30% tho) while Caucasian is mostly frequent among upper West Asian countries.

Yes, more or less, we agree here.

[JMack]

If you aren't expert, than better stay quiet. No, it isn't the same. In MDLP K16 modern (newest calculator), there is neolithic component (peaks in Basques/Sardinian) and that is what most Europeans have, while it is very low in middle east. Another basal-ralated component is ''Caucasian'' which is very high in Arabs and Levantines (togheder with near eastern), with is basal + ANE.

Neolithic (as European neolithic like Stuttgart individual) is not strong in MENA, while Caucasian is (and in Europe it is strongest only in south-eastern Europe).

Again, I think you're wrong. I'm being humble to admit my lack of knowledge, but it seems you're no expert as well.

Calculators can manipulate the components in a very specific way, discriminating the more common ones in certain populations. But Basal Eurasian is basically derived from the same populations that has been differentiated locally. That's the reason you find certain Euro populations overlaping in certain components with other West Eurasians.

What I'm saying is nothing absurd, just genetic common sense. Western Eurasian populations are all related.

[Jana]

Again, I think you're wrong. I'm being humble to admit my lack of knowledge, but it seems you're no expert as well.
Calculators can manipulate the components in a very specific way, discriminating the more common ones in certain populations. But Basal Eurasian is basically derived from the same populations that has been differentiated locally. That's the reason you find certain Euro populations overlaping in certain components with other West Eurasians.
What I'm saying is nothing absurd, just genetic common sense. Western Eurasian populations are all related.

I'm no expert either, but have decent understanding of components.
You aren't honest and neutral perosn, few day ago you claimed elderly Croats look like middle easteners to other Europeans and that they are darker than east Asians, because I wrote how East Asians obviously swarthy compared to native Europeans.

[JMack]

I'm no expert either, but have decent understanding of components.
You aren't honest and neutral perosn, few day ago you claimed elderly Croats look like middle easteners to other Europeans and that they are darker than east Asians, because I wrote how East Asians obviously swarthy compared to native Europeans.

What? I have never done this.

Prove it. Dishonest accusations are one of the lowest things someone can do.

[Pahli]

It's the same. Sardinians today are ~45% basal and ~55% Euro HG, they have pretty much no ANE. That's what this "early European farmer" is like. It's just getting the admixture from an already admixed source rather than the pure source.

Only 5% less Natufian than me lol. It explains why they are southern shifted.

[Jana]

What? I have never done this.
Prove. Dishonest accusations are one of the lowest things someone can do.

Sorry! I checked it, and it wasn't you, but user Bonpal who wrote that. You have my apologies.

[RN97]

Only 5% less Natufian than me lol. It explains why they are southern shifted.

It's mostly due to (don't know for sure, but I think) the lacking ANE component. They're around as southern as Tuscans while having more European HG admixture. I think ANE and even amerindian shifts you north. At least I remember someone said it, I think it's correct.

BTW sauce:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=289082796

[Puritan Benedict]

#1:
# Population Percent
5 Sub-Saharan 3.78

Wait..... U be sayin'..... We wuznt kangz n' sheit? Sheeeiiittt.

[Jana]

Sardinians aren't really southern, but very western shifted. And their phenotypes look fully Europid, MENA looking people are rarity there.




I gues that is because they don't have any recent extra-European influences.