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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleņo View Post
    There is truth in this you quote. But we must also acknowledge that during Greco-Roman periods, Greek and Roman practices were accepted and practiced by a wide portion of the entire population, including indigenous populations. Greco-Roman traditions were often held in high regard and were considered desirable by indigenous populations. Shuenemann et al. notes this in the aforementioned study we've discussed here. It's quotes as such:

    "On the one hand, the interpretation of literary and archaeological sources is often complicated by selective representation and preservation and the fact that markers of foreign identity, such as, for example, Greek or Latin names and ethnics, quickly became ‘status symbols’ and were adopted by natives and foreigners alike"

    In the information you quoted above, we can see that Greco-Roman mummy portraits were popular all over Egypt and not just with particular Greco-Romans found in Fayum:

    "Subsequent excavations at sites such as Fag el-Gamus, el-Hibeh, Antinoopolis, Akhmim, and most recently Marina el-Alamein suggest that mummy portraits actually were known throughout much of Egypt, so that the term "Fayum portraits" is no longer valid."

    So although a Greco-Roman portrait could indeed be indicative of a Greco-Roman grave, it's not exclusive to this and could also be indicative of an indigenous Egyptian grave, possibly an upper class person, but probably not pharaonic royals.
    They only way they adopted Greek or Roman names were if they were related to Greeks or Romans via marriage or if they were partially Greek or Roman.

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    Greek and Roman practices were accepted and practiced by a wide portion of the entire population, including indigenous populations. Greco-Roman traditions were often held in high regard and were considered desirable by indigenous populations. Shuenemann et al. notes this in the aforementioned study we've discussed here. It's quotes as such:
    The Egyptians, Jews and other ethnics were distinguished by their different customs, and by worshipping their Gods by different names, they often despised Greek and Roman customs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Yes. Maybe the early dynasty of Egyptians were Blacks since nobody have genetically sequenced their results.
    You honestly think the early Egyptians were black?

    Look at the old kingdom statues

    Prince Hemiunu



    High priest Ranofer



    Pharoah Khafre



    Prince Rahotep and Princess Nofret



    The seated scribe



    Pharaoh Menkaure and his queen Kha-Merer-Nebu II


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    They only way they adopted Greek or Roman names were if they were related to Greeks or Romans via marriage or if they were partially Greek or Roman.
    Post evidence of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    The Egyptians, Jews and other ethnics were distinguished by their different customs, and by worshipping their Gods by different names, they often despised Greek and Roman customs.
    Some, not all. I posted evidence of this.

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    So although a Greco-Roman portrait could indeed be indicative of a Greco-Roman grave, it's not exclusive to this and could also be indicative of an indigenous Egyptian grave, possibly an upper class person, but probably not pharaonic royals.
    That's unsubstantiated bullshit of course. The Fayum portraits were not the norm as some try to present them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleņo View Post
    Some, not all. I posted evidence of this.
    My evidence is the countless historians what was your evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    That's unsubstantiated bullshit of course. The Fayum portraits were not the norm as some try to present them.
    You can always post evidence to support this claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleņo View Post
    You can always post evidence to support this claim.
    I don't have to prove I am not an elephant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    My evidence is the countless historians what was your evidence?
    Post the quotes that say ONLY they can take on Greco-traditions if they were related by marriage or by blood. Unless you have these quotes that say ONLY, it's speculation.

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