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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post



    Pribislav denies this widely accepted theory because main Serbian marker PH908 is unexistant among Sorbs, he tries to connect it to few lone families in Bohemia known as Nabsky Srbi
    I asked for any peper speaking about this mysterious people but dude failed to show it. It's just a falsification because facts destroy idea DinS is proto-Serb marker.
    It isnt non existant AFAIK . I2a1b does exist among North Slavs , in some more than othets. It's high frequency in South Slavs has been explained to possibly be a bottleneck or founder effect. It's a coincidence that South Slavs aren't majority R1a basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpatz View Post
    You don't have a proper response to this, dunecoon. You're an immigrant telling the native to leave.
    First of all, Aromanians are part of the Greek ethnogenesis and very patriotic. Not my fault her Romanian dad got stuck on the wrong side of the border after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire.

    Secondly, my Anatolian grandad crushed your little Slavic ancestor uprisings a couple of times. So to the victor go the spoils.

    Lastly, I am not offended by my Near East admixture you OWD clown, I am proud of it. Now fuck off, like a good little boy that you are. You can still hope for a pity handjob, white knight loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    No it isn't even remotely similar as Iranic fantasies about Croats (or Serbs). It is widely accepted theory everywhere and your beloved DAI spoke exactly about it.
    White Croats and White Serbs were historical tribes and there are numerous sources about them, toponyms and archeological findings. Only their homeland borders are disputable.

    Their names could have Iranic root but at time of White Serbia/White Croatia they were clear Slavs.

    The Iranian origin of Proto Serbs isn't a fantasy but a very plausible theory IMO. They made their way from the Caucasus as Indo Iranians and into central Europe where they got Slavicized and from there into the Balkans. Very plausible theory and possibly true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Sea View Post
    The Iranian origin of Proto Serbs isn't a fantasy but a very plausible theory IMO. They made their way from the Caucasus as Indo Iranians and into central Europe where they got Slavicized and from there into the Balkans. Very plausible theory and possibly true.
    I2a1 Serbs came from Northern Italy through France->Germany->czech republic->southern poland->Romania->Serbia, that is very much confirmed migration theory of I2 people.

    Your reply is so 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Wrong. R1a M458 exist in Serbs, Tesla had it. It is true however you have not much genetic continuity with them.

    It isn't disputed White Serbs came from East Germany where Dervan's Serbia was located, whoever denies that has agenda. And that Sorbs (Lužički Srbi) are their descendants.

    So look at proto-Serb genetics among them.
    Have you ever heard for Nabsky Srbove (Serbs)? They are Serbian leftovers in Czechia after 7th century assimilatted by Czechs in late middle age.

    Descendant of Nabsky Srbove https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tereza_Srbova


    Serbs arrived to Iran from Europe (Podunavlje) 17:24 - 22:00 (about origin of Serbian name since 20:40) https://youtu.be/gIDzpUm5Q_U?t=1044

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    Exactly what I thought, Germanic and Celtic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    No it isn't even remotely similar as Iranic fantasies about Croats (or Serbs). It is widely accepted theory everywhere and your beloved DAI spoke exactly about it.
    White Croats and White Serbs were historical tribes and there are numerous sources about them, toponyms and archeological findings. Only their homeland borders are disputable.

    Their names could have Iranic root but at time of White Serbia/White Croatia they were clear Slavs.
    If the majority of Sorbs/Serbs moved south in the 5th century, who's to say they didn't bring I-PH908 with them and create a founder effect in the Balkans? I-PH908 is equally non existent in the Belorussian triangle where it supposedly originates, it's something like 1%, with the rest of I2a being clades under Din-North.

    The remaining Sorbs could easily of mixed with the R1a majority Slavs that surrounded them. Issue here is you're assuming the Sorbs of 2019 are identical to the Sorbs over 1500 years ago, and there's no evidence for this. Sorbs started speaking German by the 17th century, and most stopped speaking slavic by the 19th, but they're somehow representative of Proto Serbs 1500 years ago? Not to mention the centuries they spent under Polish rule, Bohemia, the mixing they undertook with Czechs.

    I don't believe I-PH908 is "proto Serb" like Pribislav does, but this is a dishonest argument until we find White Serb samples from 500AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosas View Post
    Lastly, I am not offended by my Near East admixture you OWD clown, I am proud of it. Now fuck off, like a good little boy that you are.
    Excuse my butting in in but you did mix with a North European woman and gladly displayed it on TA (photos and DNA results of the children).

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    So they have only one sample from medieval Russia? Nah, I won't bother uploading my data onto there.

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