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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Samarkandi Tajik:

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    Is around 25% East Eurasian. You get ~10% East Eurasian. This is probably mainly cause you're half-Russian, but keeping in mind that Russians (especially Volga Russians) get some EE, your father is probably 15-20% EE which is in the Tajikistani Tajik range.

    Also, your Med seems very high, and your SW Asian is also a bit higher than average. You have almost 10% more Med than the Samarkandi. Your father may or may not be a typical Bukhara Uzbek, but have you have tried asking him if there's any recent non-Uzbek/Turkic ancestry in your family?
    Yes med is unusually high for the region, and sw asian on father side could be around 10% which is similar to persians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakha View Post
    Yes med is unusually high for the region, and sw asian on father side could be around 10% which is similar to persians
    Forgot that these were your results and not your father's for a moment. That'd mean your father would be ~10% SW Asian and ~25% Med. That's crazy for a Central Asian. Now I'm leaning more towards him being a bit of an outlier for a Bukharan Uzbek, though having not seen any Bukharan results before, I don't want to make any conclusions. Not surprising you get so much West Asian on 23andMe. It's still weird you don't get any Uzbek regions though.

    Are you planning on having your father take a DNA test btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Forgot that these were your results and not your father's for a moment. That'd mean your father would be ~10% SW Asian and ~25% Med. That's crazy for a Central Asian. Now I'm leaning more towards him being a bit of an outlier for a Bukharan Uzbek, though having not seen any Bukharan results before, I don't want to make any conclusions. Not surprising you get so much West Asian on 23andMe. It's still weird you don't get any Uzbek regions though.

    Are you planning on having your father take a DNA test btw?
    Sw Asian yeah, but i doubt he d scored 25% med, since russians also score it, along with Caucasian. Maybe around 10% Med and the 15% Med from my mother.

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    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 0.5836% / 0.00583559
    Aggregated
    17.6 Baltic_LVA_BA
    13.6 ARM_Areni_C
    13.2 Azeri
    12.0 Bashkir
    10.2 Baltic_EST_BA
    10.0 Balochi
    6.2 Basque_French
    4.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    2.6 Altaian
    2.0 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    2.0 Amerindian_North
    1.6 Austrian
    1.4 Algerian
    1.4 Ami
    1.0 Azeri_Dagestan
    0.6 Atayal
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    Look at this distance:

    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 0.0242% / 0.00024240
    Aggregated
    11.4 Ukrainian
    6.6 Belarusian
    4.6 Mordovian
    4.2 TKM_Geoksyur_En
    3.6 Tatar_Lipka
    3.4 French
    3.2 Polish
    3.0 Baltic_EST_BA
    2.8 Baltic_LVA_BA
    2.6 German
    2.6 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    2.2 Corded_Ware_DEU
    2.2 HUN_Tisza_LN
    2.0 Mari
    2.0 RUS_Ingria_IA
    1.8 ARM_Areni_C
    1.6 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
    1.6 Brahui
    1.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    1.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
    1.4 Syrian
    1.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
    1.4 Uzbek
    1.2 Azeri
    1.2 HUN_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN
    1.2 Italian_Bergamo
    1.2 Kalash
    1.2 RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven
    1.2 Romaniote_Jew
    1.0 Ami
    1.0 Egyptian
    1.0 Kaitag
    1.0 Scythian_UKR
    1.0 Turkish_Balkans
    1.0 Udmurt
    0.8 Chuvash
    0.8 Eskimo_Chaplin
    0.8 Greenlander_West
    0.6 Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.6 EGY_Hellenistic
    0.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic
    0.6 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    0.6 Nogai
    0.6 Sephardic_Jew
    0.6 Tajik_Rushan
    0.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    0.4 Armenian
    0.4 Cherkes
    0.4 DEU_MA
    0.4 Eskimo_Sireniki
    0.4 Greenlander_East
    0.4 IND_Roopkund_B
    0.4 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
    0.4 Iberia_East_IA
    0.4 Mozabite
    0.4 Portuguese
    0.4 RUS_Magadan_BA
    0.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.2 Azeri_Dagestan
    0.2 BGR_MP_N
    0.2 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    0.2 Berber_Algeria
    0.2 Dinka
    0.2 Dusun
    0.2 Esan_Nigeria
    0.2 Even
    0.2 Finnish
    0.2 GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res
    0.2 Greek_Trabzon
    0.2 Hazara
    0.2 IRN_Belt_Cave_Meso_low_res
    0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
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    0.2 Itelmen
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    0.2 Thai
    0.2 UZB_Bustan_BA
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    Woah:
    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 0.0164% / 0.00016381
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    14.6 Ukrainian
    5.8 Belarusian
    4.8 Mordovian
    4.0 French
    3.6 TKM_Geoksyur_En
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    3.4 Tatar_Lipka
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    2.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    1.8 Azeri
    1.8 Mari
    1.8 HUN_Tisza_LN
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    1.4 RUS_Ingria_IA
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    1.4 Romaniote_Jew
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    1.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
    1.4 Uzbek
    1.0 Chuvash
    1.0 Eskimo_Chaplin
    1.0 German
    1.0 Italian_Bergamo
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    0.8 ARM_Areni_C
    0.8 Egyptian
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    0.8 Mozabite
    0.8 Udmurt
    0.6 Ami
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    0.6 Iberia_East_IA
    0.6 Kaitag
    0.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
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    0.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    0.4 Cherkes
    0.4 DEU_LBK_N
    0.4 EGY_Hellenistic
    0.4 GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res
    0.4 Greek_Trabzon
    0.4 Greenlander_West
    0.4 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
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    0.4 Kalash
    0.4 Portuguese
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    0.4 Turkish_Azer
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    0.2 Eskimo_Sireniki
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    So i decided to run again a model with all population averages:

    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 0.5237% / 0.00523723
    Aggregated
    27.0 RUS_Ingria_IA

    14.8 TKM_Parkhai_MBA

    13.8 Spanish_Asturias

    7.8 Baltic_LTU_BA

    7.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res

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    2.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

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    1.8 Hakkipikki

    1.8 UKR_N_o

    1.4 EGY_Hellenistic

    1.4 HUN_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN

    1.2 Eskimo_Sireniki

    1.2 MYS_LN

    0.8 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res

    0.8 KAZ_Kimak

    0.4 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul

    0.4 Naxi

    0.2 Daur

    0.2 Gupta

    0.2 HUN_BA_o

    0.2 Juang

    0.2 Lebbo

    0.2 Oroqen

    0.2 RUS_Old_Bering_Uelen

    0.2 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res

    0.2 Vizayan

    Then i deleted “Spanish asturias” because it just makes no sense, this time ancient southwest iberian appeared, along with ancient Kazakhstan sample:


    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 0.5901% / 0.00590129
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    24.8 RUS_Ingria_IA

    14.4 TKM_Parkhai_MBA

    9.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res

    9.0 Baltic_LTU_BA

    8.2 Iberia_Southwest_EN

    7.0 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul

    4.2 Mari

    3.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic

    3.0 Eskimo_Sireniki

    2.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

    2.0 Hakkipikki

    1.8 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res

    1.4 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res

    1.2 EGY_Hellenistic

    1.0 MYS_LN

    0.8 HRV_IA

    0.8 UKR_N_o

    0.6 KAZ_Karluk

    0.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian

    0.4 Greenlander_West

    0.4 SWE_IA

    0.2 Daur

    0.2 Greenlander_East

    0.2 Han_NChina

    0.2 IRN_Belt_Cave_Meso_low_res

    0.2 KAZ_Kimak

    0.2 Koinanbe

    0.2 Koryak

    0.2 Lebbo

    0.2 Mlabri

    0.2 Naxi

    0.2 RUS_Magadan_BA

    0.2 She

    0.2 Tujia

    0.2 VUT_2350B

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    Did all modern averages, instead of any central asian it shows Turkish_Azeri, just like Lemgrant’s great analysis - big thanks to him:

    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 1.2349% / 0.01234872
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    30.2 Turkish_Azer
    28.6 Russian_Smolensk
    11.6 Lithuanian
    7.2 Kalash
    6.6 Basque_French
    5.0 Mari
    2.4 Eskimo_Sireniki
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    2.0 Lebbo
    1.2 Balochi
    1.0 Daur
    0.6 Dinka
    0.6 Yoruba
    0.4 Vizayan
    0.2 Eskimo
    0.2 Itelmen


    After that decided to delete Turkish Azer sample to see what other Turkish i would score or Azerbaijani, but instead got none.
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    Using all modern averages from updated spreadsheets as of 4.11 - again Turkish Azer and nothing central asian:

    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 1.1735% / 0.01173513
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    30.8 Turkish_Azer
    27.6 Lithuanian_PZ
    9.6 Spanish_Asturias
    6.2 Russian_Smolensk
    5.2 Mari
    5.0 Tatar_Lipka
    3.8 Balochi
    2.4 Kalash
    2.2 Eskimo_Sireniki
    2.2 Koryak
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    I can subtract 50% Russian from your DNA to get new G25 coordinates. Then we can run those coordinates on oracles to see what it will show.

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