Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

**Leto** · 01-02-2020, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Impaler

That's a lot! Thracian has barely 3%. Your father is a Balkan Turk but his Mongoloid is higher than many Turkish from Anatolia. That is very interesting.

I agree. I didn't even think such people existed in Bulgaria. I mean Tatarstan is much more Eastern and even there many Tatars are below 20% Mongoloid. I think 13-15% can in many cases be visible phenotypically.

**Kaspias** · 01-02-2020, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Impaler

That's a lot! Thracian has barely 3%. Your father is a Balkan Turk but his Mongoloid is higher than many Turkish from Anatolia. That is very interesting.

It is a bit more than the regional average, which is 10%. Southern part of Kardzhali and the mountainous area of Komotini, Eastern Rhodopes has the highest East Eurasian scores in the Balkans except for Dobruja Tatars.

The more interesting thing from my perspective is having Q-L330 despite not having a Tatar background. When i checked last time there was no single Q-L330 in Anatolian & Balkan Turks.

**JohnnyP** · 01-02-2020, 11:58 PM

Updated K13 Eurogenes
Target: JohhnyP
Distance: 0.2694% / 0.26939861
28.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
15.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
12.6 Belorussian
10.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.4 Pomak_Xanthi
6.4 Macedonian_Greece
6.0 Latvian
4.6 Greek_Istanbul
4.0 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
1.4 Norwegian
0.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
0.6 South_Polish
0.2 Greek_Chios
0.2 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 Papuan

**JohnnyP** · 01-03-2020, 12:24 AM

Macedonian ,Bulgarian and Greek on K13 Ancient Eurogenes.
Mkdbggr.jpg

**~~Lafaur~~** · 01-03-2020, 03:52 AM

Puerto Rican Amerindian
Taína,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.70,3.95,4.53,84.62,1.77,1. 95,0.48
Anzick-1 Paleo-Indian
Clovis,0.95,0.14,0.07,3.52,0,0,0,0,0,1.63,4.57,88. 51,0.34,0.27,0

**bained** · 01-03-2020, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Bulgarians, Pomaks and Turks.

Code:

Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88,0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0										
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2.69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0										
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1.27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00										
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36										
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24.65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0,0										
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1.12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0										
Bulgarian_Central,23.19,22.39,17.70,8.96,20.02,3.71,0.87,0,1.54,1.62,0,0,0										
Bulgarian_Haskovo,20.45,23.47,21.57,10.51,19.54,0.61,0,0,2.14,0.75,0.88,0.06,0										
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2.86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0										
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0										
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.39,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0										
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0										
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3.15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0										
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36,0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0										
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1.85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0										
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33,0,1.08,0,0.13										
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07,0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27										
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0,0,0,0,0										
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0,0.49,1.13,0,0,0										
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0,0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24										
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76,0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0										
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.80,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0										
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0.25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer,15.65,18.37,15.33,17.42,17.18,3.97,0,3.47,7.75,0.47,0,0.4,0										
Turk_Xanthi,17.64,19.53,13.78,14.43,25.22,2.09,0,1.91,3.70,0.16,0.61,0,0										
Turk_Komotini,14.83,18.25,12.70,15.92,22.85,2.77,1.68,1.92,6.80,0.87,0.46,0,0.95										
Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain,14.6,18.22,12.61,16.66,21.62,4.36,0.63,2.34,8.17,0.34,0,0.42,0.04										
Turk_N-Macedonia,19.62,26.16,14.14,12.18,18.91,2.55,2.33,1.13,2.05,0.67,0.04,0.21,0										
Turk_Thessaloniki,19.29,19.58,17.35,12.55,26.1,1.97,0,0.51,1.38,0.94,0,0,0.32										
Turk_Stara-Zagora,21.7,18.28,14.13,15.26,19.21,4.15,1.27,0.54,4.73,0.58,0,0.14,0										
Turk_Edirne,13.92,14.66,16.81,19.56,20.22,2.35,3.04,3.03,5.28,0.53,0.53,0.07,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi,17.75,17.11,15.37,21.97,16.46,0.9,0.12,4.61,5.19,0,0,0,0.53										
Turk_Kazanlik,20.10,16.93,17.68,11.70,22.85,1.50,2.76,1.72,3.09,0.72,0.59,0.37,0										
Turk_Burgas,19.03,11.49,14.52,19.18,23.94,3.15,1.32,2.12,4.28,0.44,0,0.16,0.37										
Turk_Kavala,22.02,18.10,16.46,14.95,20.83,1.60,0,1.12,2.06,0.27,0.21,0,0.12										
Turk_Sliven-Alevi,20.29,20.76,14.36,19.19,13.55,2.51,2.98,2.70,1.95,1.38,0,0,0.33										
Turk_Crete,15.92,13.82,17.01,15.12,26.39,4.34,0,1.98,2.4,0.21,0.19,1.76,0.87										
Turk_Drama,17.20,22.87,15.61,15.52,19.94,1.52,1.62,2.76,1.90,0.27,0.26,0.19,0.34										
Turk_Dobrich,18.15,22.61,15.49,12.65,18.85,4.32,2.72,2.17,0.35,1.73,0,0.59,0.38										
Turk_Razgrad,21.27,22.84,14.09,12.92,19.33,1.03,2.24,2.57,2.24,0.25,0.12,0,1.10										
Turk_Alexandroupoli,21.94,16.43,16.91,13.31,23.54,4.30,0,0.35,2.08,0.99,0,0.13,0										
Turk_Targovishte,20.17,18.88,12.05,14.29,22.67,2.61,1.15,3.42,3.38,0.61,0.77,0,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-West,16.43,21.01,14.99,15.94,16.79,3.94,3.41,3.15,3.24,0.79,0.31,0,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-East,21.29,16.80,14.74,14.36,18.50,2.29,0.23,1.80,5.40,2.55,1.10,0.66,0.29										
Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20,20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33

LOL man, you have 3 of my samples in your spreadsheet. The Bulgarian_Haskovo is actually from Hisarya, Plovdiv Province. This one and Bulgarian_Central and Eastern_Rhodopes are 0.000000 distance with ones I have. You can also use North_Rhodope,21.90,22.46,18.39,13.49,19.27,2.48,0 ,0.29,0.73,0.62,0.37,0,0 and another from Hisarya,26.41,22.34,18.27,11.04,17.22,1.60,1.04,0, 0,1.50,0.57,0,0 and me from Hisarya BaiNed,25.63,21.24,18.04,8.86,22.32,2.31,0,0,0.27, 0.97,0.32,0,0

**Kaspias** · 01-03-2020, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by bained

LOL man, you have 3 of my samples in your spreadsheet. The Bulgarian_Haskovo is actually from Hisarya, Plovdiv Province. This one and Bulgarian_Central and Eastern_Rhodopes are 0.000000 distance with ones I have. You can also use North_Rhodope,21.90,22.46,18.39,13.49,19.27,2.48,0 ,0.29,0.73,0.62,0.37,0,0 and another from Hisarya,26.41,22.34,18.27,11.04,17.22,1.60,1.04,0, 0,1.50,0.57,0,0 and me from Hisarya BaiNed,25.63,21.24,18.04,8.86,22.32,2.31,0,0,0.27, 0.97,0.32,0,0

Do you have a clue why it is registered as Haskovo in Anthrogenica PCA?

I edited the spreadsheet.

Code:

Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88,0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0										
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2.69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0										
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1.27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00										
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36										
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24.65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0,0										
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1.12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0										
Bulgarian_Central,24.07,22.36,18.89,9.84,19.77,1.91,0.21,0,1.53,0.97,0.44,0.01,0
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2.86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0										
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0										
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.39,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0										
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0										
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3.15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0										
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36,0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0										
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1.85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0										
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33,0,1.08,0,0.13
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope,21.90,22.46,18.39,13.49,19.27,2.48,0 ,0.29,0.73,0.62,0.37,0,0										
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07,0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27										
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0,0,0,0,0										
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0,0.49,1.13,0,0,0										
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0,0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24										
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76,0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0										
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.80,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0										
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0.25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer,15.65,18.37,15.33,17.42,17.18,3.97,0,3.47,7.75,0.47,0,0.4,0										
Turk_Xanthi,17.64,19.53,13.78,14.43,25.22,2.09,0,1.91,3.70,0.16,0.61,0,0										
Turk_Komotini,14.83,18.25,12.70,15.92,22.85,2.77,1.68,1.92,6.80,0.87,0.46,0,0.95										
Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain,14.6,18.22,12.61,16.66,21.62,4.36,0.63,2.34,8.17,0.34,0,0.42,0.04										
Turk_N-Macedonia,19.62,26.16,14.14,12.18,18.91,2.55,2.33,1.13,2.05,0.67,0.04,0.21,0										
Turk_Thessaloniki,19.29,19.58,17.35,12.55,26.1,1.97,0,0.51,1.38,0.94,0,0,0.32										
Turk_Stara-Zagora,21.7,18.28,14.13,15.26,19.21,4.15,1.27,0.54,4.73,0.58,0,0.14,0										
Turk_Edirne,13.92,14.66,16.81,19.56,20.22,2.35,3.04,3.03,5.28,0.53,0.53,0.07,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi,17.75,17.11,15.37,21.97,16.46,0.9,0.12,4.61,5.19,0,0,0,0.53										
Turk_Kazanlik,20.10,16.93,17.68,11.70,22.85,1.50,2.76,1.72,3.09,0.72,0.59,0.37,0										
Turk_Burgas,19.03,11.49,14.52,19.18,23.94,3.15,1.32,2.12,4.28,0.44,0,0.16,0.37										
Turk_Kavala,22.02,18.10,16.46,14.95,20.83,1.60,0,1.12,2.06,0.27,0.21,0,0.12										
Turk_Sliven-Alevi,20.29,20.76,14.36,19.19,13.55,2.51,2.98,2.70,1.95,1.38,0,0,0.33										
Turk_Crete,15.92,13.82,17.01,15.12,26.39,4.34,0,1.98,2.4,0.21,0.19,1.76,0.87										
Turk_Drama,17.20,22.87,15.61,15.52,19.94,1.52,1.62,2.76,1.90,0.27,0.26,0.19,0.34										
Turk_Dobrich,18.15,22.61,15.49,12.65,18.85,4.32,2.72,2.17,0.35,1.73,0,0.59,0.38										
Turk_Razgrad,21.27,22.84,14.09,12.92,19.33,1.03,2.24,2.57,2.24,0.25,0.12,0,1.10										
Turk_Alexandroupoli,21.94,16.43,16.91,13.31,23.54,4.30,0,0.35,2.08,0.99,0,0.13,0										
Turk_Targovishte,20.17,18.88,12.05,14.29,22.67,2.61,1.15,3.42,3.38,0.61,0.77,0,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-West,16.43,21.01,14.99,15.94,16.79,3.94,3.41,3.15,3.24,0.79,0.31,0,0										
Turk_Kardzhali-East,21.29,16.80,14.74,14.36,18.50,2.29,0.23,1.80,5.40,2.55,1.10,0.66,0.29										
Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20,20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33

Bulgarian Central have 8 sample size now. Haskovo deleted. North-Rhodope added

**bained** · 01-03-2020, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Do you have a clue why it is registered as Haskovo in Anthrogenica PCA?

Bulgarian Central have 8 sample size now. Haskovo deleted. North-Rhodope added

He plots closely to it, idk. I have him as Maritza on Anthrogenica plots.

This is pretty much me on 23andme, holy shit.
Distance: 0.9369% / 0.93688943 | ADC: 0.25x
37.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
31.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
10.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
9.8 Swiss_Italian
5.4 Macedonian_East
3.8 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish

**Kayra** · 01-03-2020, 11:47 AM

Target: Kayra
Distance: 1.4203% / 1.42032087 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Bosnian
32.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
19.0 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
4.2 RU_Pinega
0.8 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese
0.8 Uzbeki
0.2 Naxi

Target: Kayra
Distance: 2.8512% / 2.85116653 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
47.4 Bosnian
3.2 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

Target: Kayra
Distance: 3.0958% / 3.09578182 | ADC: 1x
53.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
43.0 Bosnian
3.8 Macedonian

Target: Kayra
Distance: 5.8825% / 5.88249622 | ADC: 2x
57.4 Montenegrin
42.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer

**Kaspias** · 01-03-2020, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by bained

He plots closely to it, idk. I have him as Maritza on Anthrogenica plots.

This is pretty much me on 23andme, holy shit.
Distance: 0.9369% / 0.93688943 | ADC: 0.25x
37.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
31.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
10.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
9.8 Swiss_Italian
5.4 Macedonian_East
3.8 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish

Originally Posted by Kayra

Target: Kayra
Distance: 1.4203% / 1.42032087 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Bosnian
32.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
19.0 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
4.2 RU_Pinega
0.8 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese
0.8 Uzbeki
0.2 Naxi

Target: Kayra
Distance: 2.8512% / 2.85116653 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
47.4 Bosnian
3.2 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

Target: Kayra
Distance: 3.0958% / 3.09578182 | ADC: 1x
53.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
43.0 Bosnian
3.8 Macedonian

Target: Kayra
Distance: 5.8825% / 5.88249622 | ADC: 2x
57.4 Montenegrin
42.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer

Glad to see such accurate results! It is probably more accurate than anything else for Kayra