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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    This is not the case. Both a Bulgarian who have 30 Baltic and have 18 Baltic will be in same cluster, because spreading of other components(med and WA is decisive factor) are in same parallel which makes them Bulgarian at the end of the day. If one would cluster with Serbs s/he should have totally different breakdown. If you ask me, over 90% of ethnic Bulgarians will be in same cluster.

    That's why I stated Eastern Balkans, this is the maximum you can reach in such a small region.
    How exactly? 12% difference means at least two other components would be different. Like in the case of that Bulgarian from Dupnitsa having Serbian as top match. Part of Bulgarian ethnicity, but an outlier. Same for Bulgarian scoring 25% East Med, in the other direction, top match Thessalian Greek. I wouldn't call them belonging to the same cluster, as their results are too different. If we take Bulgarian average as median, these two are like 2SD away from it, 70% of Bulgarians being within 1SD, the exact difference for 1SD I haven't calculated though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    How exactly? 12% difference means at least two other components would be different. Like in the case of that Bulgarian from Dupnitsa having Serbian as top match.
    Because there is a genetic continuum. Clustering algorithm not only works with similarity. It will be really confusing if I try to explain it here, but will post an example in the future, when I have access to my PC.

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    Here is comparison of averages between Macedonians, Bulgarians, Romanians from Muntenia (the most southern genetically part of Romania) and Ghegs.

    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    Here is comparison of averages between Macedonians, Bulgarians, Romanians from Muntenia (the most southern genetically part of Romania) and Ghegs.

    Spoiler!
    Nice work man !
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    49.6 Ancient-Macedonian
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP View Post
    Nice work man !
    I will search for Bulgarian results from Macedonia and Thrace and post the averages, I expect big similarities with Macedonian results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    I will search for Bulgarian results from Macedonia and Thrace and post the averages, I expect big similarities with Macedonian results.
    And post here if you can like last comparasions you made!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP View Post
    And post here if you can like last comparasions you made!
    I think Kaspias may already have such averages, he posted this image in the other thread:



    So Southern Bulgaria is Bulgarian_Southwest, Bulgarian_Serres, Bulgarian_Thrace, Bulgarian_Eastern_Rhodopes, Bulgarian_Pazardzhik, Bulgarian_Burgas, Bulgarian_Plovdiv, Bulgarian_Stara_Zagora, Bulgarian_North_Rhodopes, Pomak_Plovdiv, Pomak_Nevrokopi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    I think Kaspias may already have such averages, he posted this image in the other thread:



    So Southern Bulgaria is Bulgarian_Southwest, Bulgarian_Serres, Bulgarian_Thrace, Bulgarian_Eastern_Rhodopes, Bulgarian_Pazardzhik, Bulgarian_Burgas, Bulgarian_Plovdiv, Bulgarian_Stara_Zagora, Bulgarian_North_Rhodopes, Pomak_Plovdiv, Pomak_Nevrokopi.

    Nice thats look good,i already put them all Bulgarian,Greek and Macedonian samples on K13 Ancient.
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    Some of these macedonians plot closer to me than any bulgarian. And the oldest mention of my family name is from Zagorichani, Kostursko during 1905. The prophecy is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bained View Post
    Some of these macedonians plot closer to me than any bulgarian. And the oldest mention of my family name is from Zagorichani, Kostursko during 1905. The prophecy is true.
    Nice are you partly Macedonian ?
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