Serbian Autosomal DNA

[CommonSense]

Here's an interesting find!

Results of Srđan Mazalica, Serbian politician. Ancestry from Bosanska Krajina:

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Kit T637162

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.08
2 North_Atlantic 21.29
3 East_Med 18.07
4 West_Med 17.03
5 West_Asian 9.48
6 Amerindian 1.51
7 South_Asian 1.46
8 Red_Sea 1.13
9 Oceanian 0.86
10 East_Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.49
2 Bulgarian 5.65
3 Serbian 6.34
4 Moldavian 8.5
5 Croatian 11.31
6 Hungarian 12.81
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.88
8 Austrian 16.57
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.41
10 East_German 17.78
11 South_Polish 18.45
12 Ukrainian 18.49
13 North_Italian 19.67
14 Tuscan 19.83
15 Central_Greek 20.96
16 Italian_Abruzzo 20.98
17 Southwest_Russian 21.22
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.51
19 West_German 21.7
20 Polish 21.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.8% Greek_Thessaly + 32.2% Lithuanian @ 2.39
2 60.7% Greek_Thessaly + 39.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.44
3 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.6
4 57.3% Greek_Thessaly + 42.7% Ukrainian @ 2.6
5 61% Greek_Thessaly + 39% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.64
6 82.6% Bulgarian + 17.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.69
7 85.3% Bulgarian + 14.7% Lithuanian @ 2.69
8 63.1% Greek_Thessaly + 36.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.73
9 81% Bulgarian + 19% Southwest_Russian @ 2.76
10 82.6% Bulgarian + 17.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.86
11 78.9% Bulgarian + 21.1% Ukrainian @ 2.86
12 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Belorussian @ 2.87
13 81.5% Bulgarian + 18.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.94
14 64.2% Greek_Thessaly + 35.8% Belorussian @ 2.95
15 83.9% Bulgarian + 16.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.97
16 84.5% Bulgarian + 15.5% Erzya @ 3.01
17 53.2% Ukrainian + 46.8% Central_Greek @ 3.01
18 78.2% Bulgarian + 21.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.02
19 53.3% South_Italian + 46.7% Lithuanian @ 3.03
20 82% Bulgarian + 18% Polish @ 3.08

His wife's result. Also Serbian and from the same region

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.29
2 North_Atlantic 24.96
3 West_Med 17.12
4 East_Med 15.59
5 West_Asian 8.19
6 Red_Sea 1.35
7 Oceanian 0.65
8 East_Asian 0.6
9 Amerindian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.49
2 Moldavian 5.73
3 Romanian 7.08
4 Croatian 7.53
5 Bulgarian 8.67
6 Hungarian 9.03
7 Austrian 12.7
8 East_German 13.73
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.98
10 South_Polish 14.62
11 Ukrainian 15
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.29
13 Polish 18.1
14 Southwest_Russian 18.32
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.67
16 West_German 18.81
17 North_Italian 20.1
18 Russian_Smolensk 20.11
19 South_Dutch 20.27
20 French 20.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Croatian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.3
2 53.6% Ukrainian + 46.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.36
3 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Polish @ 2.37
4 70.6% Croatian + 29.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.4
5 64% Bulgarian + 36% Ukrainian @ 2.4
6 82.5% Croatian + 17.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.41
7 63.4% Bulgarian + 36.6% South_Polish @ 2.46
8 62.6% Ukrainian + 37.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.48
9 54.3% South_Polish + 45.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.48
10 82.5% Croatian + 17.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.5
11 78.9% Croatian + 21.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.51
12 51.2% Greek_Thessaly + 48.8% Polish @ 2.51
13 65.9% Ukrainian + 34.1% South_Italian @ 2.57
14 71.1% Bulgarian + 28.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.65
15 77.5% Croatian + 22.5% Central_Greek @ 2.66
16 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% South_Italian @ 2.67
17 71.7% Bulgarian + 28.3% Belorussian @ 2.67
18 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Estonian @ 2.69
19 75.6% Bulgarian + 24.4% Lithuanian @ 2.75
20 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.75

[MoroLP]

Besides the slight difference on NA and Baltic, what are the other population percent that differ Serbs, Croats etc., Northern from Southern inclination?

[vbnetkhio]

Besides the slight difference on NA and Baltic, what are the other population percent that differ Serbs, Croats etc., Northern from Southern inclination?

if we look at the Mediterranean and Near Eastern admixtures, Serbs and South Croats have roughly a 2:1:2 WestMed/WestAsian/EastMed ratio, while Zagroje Croats have roughly 2:1:1, looking at Feiichy's average.

[vbnetkhio]

based on the results in Vahaduo k13 Updated and k13 ancient, i made this PCA of Serbia and neighbouring countries, and relevant ancient samples




It looks like the average modern Balkanians are mostly Early Slavs + Imperial Romans/Mycenaeans. Very little Illyrian and Thracian influence.
The Hungarians and Northern Croats drift away from this a bit. It could be influence from Croatia/Hungariy IA/BA, or Germanic influence from the medieval times onwards.

[vbnetkhio]

@Leto

i called it like that because excluded Vlachs, Pomaks and Aegean Macedonians. the cluster was quite bigger with them.
The Bulgarian cluster is still huge, that's why i asked Kaspias to make simplified Bulgarian averages

[lilalila1988]

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For reference, here are my results. I am Serbian and as far as I am aware the last 4 generations of my family are from the region around Nis.
I find it interesting that using the 1 population approximation Moldovian comes first.

[JohnnyP]

based on the results in Vahaduo k13 Updated and k13 ancient, i made this PCA of Serbia and neighbouring countries, and relevant ancient samples




It looks like the average modern Balkanians are mostly Early Slavs + Imperial Romans/Mycenaeans. Very little Illyrian and Thracian influence.
The Hungarians and Northern Croats drift away from this a bit. It could be influence from Croatia/Hungariy IA/BA, or Germanic influence from the medieval times onwards.

But Moldova Scythian_IA samples most of them are Illyrian-Thracian.

[vbnetkhio]

Screenshot_20200503_204442.jpg
For reference, here are my results. I am Serbian and as far as I am aware the last 4 generations of my family are from the region around Nis.
I find it interesting that using the 1 population approximation Moldovian comes first.

welcome to the forum!
try Vahaduo k13 updated

[vbnetkhio]

But Moldova Scythian_IA samples most of them are Illyrian-Thracian.

but we aren't pulled towards them, we are exactly like them.

They were transitional between Daco-Thracians and Scythians, so they end up plotting similarly to modern south Slavs. Notice how on the PCA they are like a bridge between Bulgaria BA/IA and Ukraine BA/IA.

[JohnnyP]

but we aren't pulled towards them, we are exactly like them.

They were transitional between Daco-Thracians and Scythians, so they end up plotting similarly to modern south Slavs. Notice how on the PCA they are like a bridge between Bulgaria BA/IA and Ukraine BA/IA.

So whats your point ,example Bulgarians,Macedonians and Albanians (because they clustering close) are not Illyrians-Thracians with slavic admixture but they are just mix from Early slavs and East Medditeraneans?