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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Uyghur (the kit is titled so)

    Gedrosia 9.09 Pct
    Siberian 23.70 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 5.32 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 3.65 Pct
    North_European 10.64 Pct

    South_Asian 3.23 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.58 Pct
    East_Asian 33.83 Pct
    Caucasus 8.79 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.15 Pct

    Target: Uyghur
    Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07970545 | ADC: 0.5x
    83.6 Kyrgyz
    8.4 Uygur
    5.4 Karakalpak
    1.4 Burmanese
    1.2 Syria_SW_Christian

    Target: Uyghur
    Distance: 0.7399% / 0.73985970 | ADC: 0.25x
    83.6 Kyrgyz
    6.0 Uygur
    3.6 Burmanese
    3.4 Nusayri_Turkey
    2.8 Karakalpak
    0.6 Hazara

    He is almost 63% Mongoloid.
    I also have a Mongol kit but I'm afraid there are no adequate references for them.
    I don’t think that is an Uyghur, maybe a Kirgiz or Kazak from East Turkestan. I doubt that that a Karluk would show more than 45% east eurasian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    I don’t think that is an Uyghur, maybe a Kirgiz or Kazak from East Turkestan. I doubt that that a Karluk would show more than 45% east eurasian.
    Uyghurs live in China and are very Eastern geographically. Look at the components, he is noticeably more Sinitic than Siberian. The kit was titled Uyghur.
    Uzbeks can range from 20 to 50% theoretically, although both extremes would be rare. Uzbekistan is a mixed country, it has Tajik, Kazakh, Karakalpak minorities and assimilation of Muslims might be an ordinary thing over there.

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    Nepali Kshatriyas (Chhetris)

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 31.88
    2 Gedrosia 25.45
    3 East_Asian 18.52
    4 North_European 9.63
    5 Caucasus 4.83
    6 Siberian 4.02
    7 Southeast_Asian 3.66
    8 Southwest_Asian 2.02

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 32.5
    2 Gedrosia 23.83
    3 East_Asian 19.2
    4 North_European 7.74
    5 Southeast_Asian 6.04
    6 Siberian 4.38
    7 Caucasus 4.21
    8 Southwest_Asian 1.67
    9 East_African 0.36
    10 Sub_Saharan 0.06

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    Bhandari
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 33.23
    2 Gedrosia 25.58
    3 East_Asian 16.45
    4 North_European 7.69
    5 Southeast_Asian 5.36
    6 Siberian 5.09
    7 Caucasus 4.2
    8 Atlantic_Med 1.41
    9 Southwest_Asian 0.52
    10 Northwest_African 0.47

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    Kurd Feyli from Iran

    Gedrosia 25.91
    Siberian 2.06
    Northwest_African 0.91
    Southeast_Asian 0.14
    Atlantic_Med 8.43
    North_European 5.26
    South_Asian 4.63
    East_African 0.47
    Southwest_Asian14.53
    East_Asian 0
    Caucasus 37.66
    Sub_Saharan 0


    Distance to: Feyli
    3.51666035 Kurd_Sorani
    3.65770420 Lur_Iran
    4.05368968 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.12473414 Iranian_Fars
    5.56049458 Iranian
    5.70280633 Turkmen_Iraq
    5.92715783 Zaza
    6.06640750 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.62517924 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.92379231 Kurd_KAZ
    8.09069218 Azerbaijani
    8.80576516 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    9.46899678 Iran_Mazandaran
    9.91218442 Turk_Southeast
    9.97400622 Iraqi_Baghdad
    10.66138359 Iran_Khorasan
    11.03889034 Uzbekistan_Jews
    11.28422350 Udi_Azerbaijan
    12.02277422 Mandean
    12.52318650 Turk_East
    13.38004858 Turk_Central_East
    14.08669585 Turk_South
    14.21354284 Assyrian_North
    14.37799360 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    14.38502346 Assyrian_South
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Uyghurs live in China and are very Eastern geographically. Look at the components, he is noticeably more Sinitic than Siberian. The kit was titled Uyghur.
    Uzbeks can range from 20 to 50% theoretically, although both extremes would be rare. Uzbekistan is a mixed country, it has Tajik, Kazakh, Karakalpak minorities and assimilation of Muslims might be an ordinary thing over there.
    Assimilation of Non-Uzbeks is a modern phenomenon, i think unmixed Uzbeks show between 35-45 % east eurasian. What i know is besides of Tadjiks Uzbeks dont intermix with non uzbeks. Actually we see thank this genetic stuff that the assertion, that Uzbeks are mostly assimilated Tadjiks are simply wrong.
    To this „Uyghur“, i don’t think they are different to Uzbeks regarding east eurasian admixture, maybe a bit more. This result looks like a typical Kirgiz result: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-results/page4. A minority can assimilate into another, bigger minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Assimilation of Non-Uzbeks is a modern phenomenon, i think unmixed Uzbeks show between 35-45 % east eurasian. What i know is besides of Tadjiks Uzbeks dont intermix with non uzbeks. Actually we see thank this genetic stuff that the assertion, that Uzbeks are mostly assimilated Tadjiks are simply wrong.
    To this „Uyghur“, i don’t think they are different to Uzbeks regarding east eurasian admixture, maybe a bit more. This result looks like a typical Kirgiz result: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-results/page4. A minority can assimilate into another, bigger minority.
    You forgot about Karakalpaks in Northwestern UZ, Kyrgyz in Southwestern Kyrgyzstan and also Kazakhs in Southern KZ.
    Anyway, that's a pointless debate. That may or may not be an Uyghur. I think there may be marriages between Hui Chinese and Uyghurs in Ürümqi.

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    Jatt Sheoran from western uttar pradesh - highest euro I've seen so far in a south asian.

    26.69% euro/atlantic med. pretty much same euro as south asian.

    Kit M646186

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 35.51
    2 South_Asian 26.83
    3 North_European 23.77
    4 Caucasus 8.2
    5 Atlantic_Med 2.92
    6 East_Asian 1.51
    7 Siberian 1.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.45
    2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.97
    3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.2
    4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 19.61
    5 Sindhi (HGDP) 22.45
    6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23
    7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 24.77
    8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.74
    9 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 27.83
    10 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 27.91
    11 Indian (Dodecad) 28.3
    12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.59
    13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.89
    14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 32.69
    15 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.48
    16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 33.49
    17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 33.99
    18 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.2
    19 INS30 (SGVP) 34.28
    20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 34.39

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.79
    2 80.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.05
    3 81.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.21
    4 81.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.3
    5 82.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.3
    6 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.35
    7 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.4
    8 83.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.64
    9 81.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.1% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.9
    10 83.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.3% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 5.19
    11 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.22
    12 72.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.38
    13 80.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.4
    14 71.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.66
    15 74.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 5.77
    16 72.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 5.88
    17 74.9% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 5.92
    18 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.96
    19 73.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 6.04
    20 72.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 6.28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    Jatt Sheoran from western uttar pradesh - highest euro I've seen so far in a south asian.

    26.69% euro/atlantic med. pretty much same euro as south asian.

    Kit M646186
    Yeah, that's a huge amount of Steppe ancestry. He HAS to be R1a

    Target: UP_Jatt
    Distance: 1.6372% / 1.63721458
    28.2 Kalash
    26.2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
    19.2 Jatt
    15.4 Latvian
    11.0 Burusho

    Basically the most Caucasoid SA pops + 15% additional Baltic.

    I think many South Asian references from Dodecad are inaccurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    Jatt Sheoran from western uttar pradesh - highest euro I've seen so far in a south asian.

    26.69% euro/atlantic med. pretty much same euro as south asian.

    Kit M646186
    Ror_37 (Haryana) Kit: EG2459463

    Bro, sorry to disturb you. Ror_37 sample seems to have the highest Euro (30.2%) in a native South Asian afaik. Also, the highest one in the Harappaworld calc afaik (21.85% NE-Euro + 5.92% Med).

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 35.32
    2 South_Asian 25.45
    3 North_European 22.81
    4 Atlantic_Med 7.39
    5 Caucasus 5.31
    6 Siberian 2.92
    7 Southwest_Asian 0.57
    8 Northwest_African 0.21
    9 East_African 0.03

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    These are all higher than the above Jatt_Sheoran in this calculator.

    Ror_12 (Haryana) 28.60% Euro
    Kit: GV1140561
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 35.35
    2 South_Asian 25.2
    3 North_European 22.31
    4 Caucasus 6.97
    5 Atlantic_Med 6.29
    6 Siberian 2.85
    7 Southwest_Asian 0.91
    8 East_Asian 0.13

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    Ahlawat Jat (Haryana) 27.79% Euro
    Kit: M397423
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 34.88
    2 South_Asian 25.39
    3 North_European 21.54
    4 Caucasus 8.18
    5 Atlantic_Med 6.25
    6 Siberian 1.59
    7 Southeast_Asian 1.56
    8 Southwest_Asian 0.6

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    Ror_49 (Haryana) 27.75% Euro
    Kit WD1007289
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 34.81
    2 South_Asian 27.01
    3 North_European 21.09
    4 Caucasus 7.95
    5 Atlantic_Med 6.66
    6 Siberian 2.37
    7 Southwest_Asian 0.13

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    Ahlawat Jat (Haryana) 27.70% Euro
    Kit: WQ7700092
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 34.92
    2 South_Asian 25.42
    3 North_European 21.5
    4 Caucasus 8.24
    5 Atlantic_Med 6.2
    6 Siberian 1.58
    7 Southeast_Asian 1.56
    8 Southwest_Asian 0.58

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    Singh Jat (Haryana) 26.82% Euro
    Kit: M611023
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 35.43
    2 South_Asian 26.19
    3 North_European 20.97
    4 Caucasus 9.31
    5 Atlantic_Med 5.85
    6 Siberian 1.64
    7 Southwest_Asian 0.61

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