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    Sure

    Target: Cypriot
    Distance: 1.7079% / 0.01707869
    40.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    26.8 Levant_PPNB
    23.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    9.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.4 Han


    Target: Italian_Bergamo
    Distance: 2.6615% / 0.02661484
    60.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    33.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    6.6 WHG

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    Quote Originally Posted by majevica View Post
    Sure

    Target: Cypriot
    Distance: 1.7079% / 0.01707869
    40.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    26.8 Levant_PPNB
    23.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    9.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.4 Han


    Target: Italian_Bergamo
    Distance: 2.6615% / 0.02661484
    60.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    33.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    6.6 WHG

    Same peoplz
    Distance to: Greece_Peloponnese_N_noUDG
    0.12460158 Cypriot
    0.13445174 Italian_Bergamo
    0.13976394 Lebanese_Christian

    Distance to: Greece_Peloponnese_N
    0.10637396 Cypriot
    0.12297976 Lebanese_Christian
    0.12577035 Italian_Bergamo

    Distance to: Greece_NeaNikomedeia_EN.SG
    0.13575194 Cypriot
    0.13982122 Italian_Bergamo
    0.15122967 Lebanese_Christian

    Distance to: Greece_N.SG
    0.14080350 Cypriot
    0.14690658 Italian_Bergamo
    0.15566950 Lebanese_Christian

    Distance to: Greece_N
    0.13670112 Cypriot
    0.14879230 Italian_Bergamo
    0.15086782 Lebanese_Christian

    Distance to: Greece_MiddleMinoan
    0.08224982 Cypriot
    0.09535015 Lebanese_Christian
    0.12758532 Italian_Bergamo

    Distance to: Tiryns_IA:TIR008
    0.08215553 Cypriot
    0.08991372 Italian_Bergamo
    0.10503720 Lebanese_Christian

    Distance to: Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG
    0.06427445 Cypriot
    0.08533066 Lebanese_Christian
    0.10448501 Italian_Bergamo

    Distance to: Greece_Delphi_IA
    0.06727217 Cypriot
    0.08282366 Italian_Bergamo
    0.09023358 Lebanese_Christian

    Distance to: Greece_BA_Mycenaean_Pylos
    0.06844033 Cypriot
    0.07421075 Italian_Bergamo
    0.09331464 Lebanese_Christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    I consider Cypriots to be European.
    Then I demand Euro status for the Ashkenazim, Turks and Roma too

    Distance to: English
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    0.16080718 Turkish_Konya
    0.16741069 Roma_Balkans
    0.16969703 Cypriot

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    Cypriots are genetically considered West Asian population, as well as their phenotype. I remember ten years ago people tried so hard to place Armenians as Europeans or put them anywhere next to Europe. Because of what? Christians and language matters.


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    No. They are not Europeans. American ignorance and constant annoying retardation never cease to amaze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMario View Post
    Don't know. Are Sicilians European genetically?
    Sicilians and European Jews, along with some Greek subgroups, are intermediate between European and Near Eastern populations, though most of them fall closer to the European cluster. Cypriots are a Middle Eastern population with a South European shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Cypriots are genetically considered West Asian population, as well as their phenotype. I remember ten years ago people tried so hard to place Armenians as Europeans or put them anywhere next to Europe. Because of what? Christians and language matters.


    Cypriots.






    No. They are not Europeans. American ignorance and constant annoying retardation never cease to amaze me.
    Do you know where I can do same graphic for my DNA Raw data file / or G25 coordinates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repent View Post
    Do you know where I can do same graphic for my DNA Raw data file / or G25 coordinates?



    Those are based on G25 calculators, GEDmatch and such. Once you score a high component, moderate and low, you turn them into such graphics. I do not remember a member on TA who made these charts and maps based on calculation results. He was a Polish man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Those are based on G25 calculators, GEDmatch and such. Once you score a high component, moderate and low, you turn them into such graphics. I do not remember a member on TA who made these charts and maps based on calculation results. He was a Polish man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Cypriots are genetically considered West Asian population, as well as their phenotype.
    Russian cope

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2119281119

    Revealing the recent demographic history of Europe via haplotype sharing in the UK Biobank

    Southern Europe.
    Leiden clustering yields three broad groups of clusters with southern European membership, as follows: one grouping individuals born around the eastern Mediterranean (i.e., Italy, Greece, Turkey, and Cyrpus), the Iberia Peninsula (Spain and Portugal), and finally two outgroup clusters (“Mixed European” and “Malta”).

    Most sampled Greek individuals form a single cluster that in the nnls analysis is modeled as a mixture of haplotypes from neighboring southern clusters such as “Italy” and “Turkey,” but as well haplotypes from the north from NE Balkans. We observe a smaller cluster grouped with the “Greece” cluster on the dendrogram (Fig. 2) that contains all sampled Albanian individuals and also projects separately to Greece in PCA; this finding is suggestive of an additional structure that we explore in our IBD-based analyses below. Elsewhere in this branch are the majority of Cypriots, Turkish, and Italian samples grouped into their own three respective clusters. In Italy, our clustering approach does not resolve the north–south clustering previously observed (4).

    https://www.pnas.org/cms/10.1073/pna...81119fig02.jpg

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    Question:Are Cypriots Part of the South European or West Asian Cluster?
    Modern Cypriots (especially Greek Cypriots) are genetically intermediate but cluster primarily with the South European (Mediterranean) group in most autosomal analyses. They form a homogeneous domain with Aegean island Greeks (e.g., Crete, Dodecanese), southern Italians (Sicily/Calabria), and Sicilians, as shown in PCA and ADMIXTURE plots from Lazaridis et al. (2017) and Stamatoyannopoulos et al. (2017, Eur J Hum Genet). This reflects dominant Bronze Age Aegean/Anatolian ancestry (~60–70%), pulling them into the "Southern European" cline despite ~20–30% Levantine input.
    However, they exhibit a "bridge" position toward West Asia:

    In global PCA (e.g., 1000 Genomes/HO), Cypriots plot between southern Europeans and West Asians (Lebanese, western Turks), closer to the former but with overlap into the latter due to shared Neolithic farmer and Phoenician components.
    Commercial tests (e.g., 23andMe) often assign them to "West Asian & North African" (WANA) clusters because reference panels emphasize Levantine/West Asian markers, but scientific studies (e.g., Haber et al., 2013) place them in a "Levantine Christian + South European" branch.
    They lack significant Slavic/Northern European admixture (~2–3% vs. 10–20% in mainland Greeks), making them more "southern-shifted" than continental Greeks but still distinct from core West Asians (e.g., higher F_ST to Syrians than to Cretans).

    In summary, Cypriots are best described as a South European population with West Asian affinities, forming the eastern edge of the Mediterranean genetic continuum. This aligns with their history as a crossroads of Aegean, Levantine, and Anatolian migrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by userNa View Post
    Russian cope

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2119281119

    Revealing the recent demographic history of Europe via haplotype sharing in the UK Biobank




    https://www.pnas.org/cms/10.1073/pna...81119fig02.jpg

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    Question:Are Cypriots Part of the South European or West Asian Cluster?



    Cypriots can be considered both, depending on the context: geographically, Cyprus is in West Asia, but politically and culturally, it is considered European, largely due to its membership in the European Union and strong ties to European culture. Genetically, Cypriots have a unique profile that is closer to West Asian populations

    Geographically and genetically: Cyprus is located in the eastern Mediterranean, south of Anatolia and near the coast of the Levant, placing it in West Asia. Genetically, studies show that the population has more in common with West Asian populations than with mainland Greeks, for example.
    Politically and culturally: Cyprus is a member of the European Union, and its citizens are European citizens. Culturally, it has strong ties to European traditions, largely due to its large Greek Cypriot population and long history of European influence



    Cypriots are Western Asians.

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