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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    It varies and is in small amounts (under or around 1%).
    With Dienekes by segment I had a couple of NAN_Melanesian, and other Asian segments. I posted all that stuff on dna-forum.org before the forum disappeared.

    To be fair, I have a crush on Polako and I had started non-dna conversations via pm, as well as dna conversations, and I think that is why he announced he doesn't want pms anymore.
    I would not worry about the South Asian components whatsoever, and regard that as Ancient material or just plain noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeistFaust View Post
    New Results:

    North Eurasian: 0%
    West African: .49%
    East Asian: 0%
    South Asian: .79%
    European: 56.22%
    West Asian: 12.52%
    Middle-Eastern: 29.97%
    I think you're missing one of the eight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeistFaust View Post
    I would not worry about the South Asian components whatsoever, and regard that as Ancient material or just plain noise.
    I also had Ethiopian Jews/ Somali segments, half African and half Middle Eastern.

    Found some of my Dienekes by seg

    World9 BYSEG (by segment)
    Averages for each component:
    2.41% Amerindian
    1.43 East_Asian
    1.61% African
    60.74 Atlantic_Baltic
    2.31% Australasian
    1.58% Siberian
    13.79% Caucasus_Gedrosia
    13.56% Southern (Arabia)
    2.54% South_Asian (India)



    BySeg World9
    My top segment match for each of the nine categories:
    Amerindian 58.49%, line 1161, chr 6, "PEL30" (30 samples from Peru (Lima) )
    East_Asian 38.06%, line 1558, chr 8, "Dai"
    African 52.26%, line 964, chr 5, "Somali_D"
    Atlantic_Baltic 100.00%, many lines, chr 2,4,5,10,11,13,16,17, "Swedish_D"
    Australasian 31.86%, line 1557, chr 8, "NAN_Melanesian"
    Siberian 30.04%, line 228, chr 1, "Chuvashs"
    Caucasus_Gedrosia 75.88%, line 1407, chr 7, "Kalash"
    Southern (peaks in Arabia) 70.96%, line 1735, chr 9, "Mozabite"
    South_Asian 42.91%, line 101, chr 1, "MAYLAYAN" [sic] (Malaysia)
    Last edited by ~Elizabeth~; 06-27-2012 at 08:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeistFaust View Post
    New Results:

    North Eurasian: 0%
    West African: .49%
    East Asian: 0%
    South Asian: .79%
    Northeastern African: 0%
    European: 56.22%
    West Asian: 12.52%
    Middle-Eastern: 29.97%
    You have a lot of Middle Eastern, about 30%. Mine is 19%.
    Did Polako tell you where that was coming from? Do you know of any ancestry from there?

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    [QUOTE=~Elizabeth~;982214]I also had Ethiopian Jews/ Somali segments, half African and half Middle Eastern.

    Okay, well the first sequence of information you gave me seems to be too small to make anything of, which will be the case if you have only a very small and distant ancestral connection and affinity to that group.

    The segment sections though are more interesting though, and I interpret that those percentages represent a segment on those chromosomes. If so the African seems to match where you found it on McDonald's, and the Amerindian seems to be as well.

    I would say it seems fairly real to me, because of the percentage and because it consistently aligns with McDonald's analysis. I personally think McDonald's system is one of the most accurate out there, although Dienekes and Polako are very good for verifying and reiterating some of McDonald's analysis results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    You have a lot of Middle Eastern, about 30%. Mine is 19%.
    Did Polako tell you where that was coming from? Do you know of any ancestry from there?

    It has to do with my 1/8th Italian ancestry, and I score substantially lower European relative to other Americans.

    In McDonald's test I scored 5.4% Middle-Eastern, which is probably consistent for someone of my own ancestry, plus I have a lot of Southern German ancestry, which sometimes scored Middle-Eastern.

    I think I score much higher Middle-Eastern and lower European than other Americans due to the fact other Americans in the test probably are more Anglo and Northwestern than me with my Southern Italian/South German ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeistFaust View Post
    It has to do with my 1/8th Italian ancestry, and I score substantially lower European relative to other Americans.
    That makes sense. I didn't know you were part Italian.
    Since I'm 19% and you're 29% you have 10% more ME than me. I have no Italian. Your 1/8 Italian (Southern Italian?) would be 12.5% from a North/Northwest European. So a 10% difference/increase makes sense. It's in the ballpark.


    My results vary a lot from test to test and run to run.

    I found my Eurogenes results from last year:


    Eurogenes

    NEU6g June 09, 2011
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    North + Central European 62% 0.622589
    North + East Eurasian 00% 0.001495
    South + West European 32% 0.323177
    North Atlantic 00% 0.00001
    Sub-Saharan 00% 0.00001
    Baltic 05% 0.052718


    EU7a June 15, 2011
    US87
    00% Red (Sub-Saharan African) 0.00001
    77% Yellow (North Sea) 0.772463
    00% Green (North + East Eurasian) 0.000268
    00% Aqua Green (North Atlantic) 0.00001
    00% Blue (North-Central European) 0.00001
    05% Dark Blue (Eastern European) 0.050016
    17% Pink (Southern European) 0.177224


    The North Atlantic represents Ireland/Western British Isles. I had zero of that. Odd since the largest parcel of my ancestry is from the British Isles. But I had a very high North Sea (77%). North Sea was Eastern British Isles (Scotland) and Norway and Holland etc. This makes sense for me. My 23andme matches with Scottish ancestry are mainly from the Aberdeen/Dundee/Edinburgh area. And I also have ancestry from North Holland.
    Last edited by ~Elizabeth~; 06-28-2012 at 10:16 AM.

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    Pagani k8 (IT40)

    Middle Eastern 46.27%
    West Asian 27.96%
    European 22.39%
    Northeast African 2%
    West African 1.32%
    East Asian .06%
    North Eurasian 0%
    South Asian 0%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilianu101 View Post
    Pagani k8 (IT40)

    Middle Eastern 46.27%
    West Asian 27.96%
    European 22.39%
    Northeast African 2%
    West African 1.32%
    East Asian .06%
    North Eurasian 0%
    South Asian 0%
    How were you able to enumerate your Admixture Proportions? I want to do this myself, but don't know how to. By the way, nice results. You have tremendous Middle Eastern admixture. And a considerable amount of West Asian as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilianu101 View Post
    Pagani k8 (IT40)

    Middle Eastern 46.27%
    West Asian 27.96%
    European 22.39%
    Northeast African 2%
    West African 1.32%
    East Asian .06%
    North Eurasian 0%
    South Asian 0%
    You're 28% Phoenician!


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