It's got NOTHING to do with Ukraine....

[Haimerich]

Agree, however despite the unsatisfactory numbers they did improve in some of those demographic areas (particularly from the 2000-2014 period). The 1990-2000 period was basically a large Great Depression.

Now with the chaos and increased tensions, we will see if it will make or break him in the Russian populations eyes.

Also just take a gander at the young Russian conscripts you see in various clips coming out from this conflict, you'll notice like half appear to be outright Asiatic or Turkic - which isn't a good sign for the future demographic composition of Russia. This isn't even considering how many Turkic-looking peoples simply "identify" as Russian because they do not reside in one of the autonomous Republics of the Russian Federation. A good idea about the true situation Russia is in can probably be seen if one looks at Bulgaria, which has likely lost a third of its population since the end of the Cold War if you factor in it also has a large Muslim population fudging its numbers slightly.

[Loki]

Also just take a gander at the young Russian conscripts you see in various clips coming out from this conflict, you'll notice like half appear to be outright Asiatic or Turkic - which isn't a good sign for the future demographic composition of Russia. This isn't even considering how many Turkic-looking peoples simply "identify" as Russian because they do not reside in one of the autonomous Republics of the Russian Federation. A good idea about the true situation Russia is in can probably be seen if one looks at Bulgaria, which has likely lost a third of its population since the end of the Cold War if you factor in it also has a large Muslim population fudging its numbers slightly.

This is fake news, there are no Russian conscripts involved in Ukraine -- only professional soldiers. Beware of lies and propaganda coming from Ukraine. They also post false made up videos, and videos from other past conflicts, and claim to be from this one. Numerous such cases have been debunked, even by the BBC

[Russki]

Also just take a gander at the young Russian conscripts you see in various clips coming out from this conflict, you'll notice like half appear to be outright Asiatic or Turkic - which isn't a good sign for the future demographic composition of Russia. This isn't even considering how many Turkic-looking peoples simply "identify" as Russian because they do not reside in one of the autonomous Republics of the Russian Federation. A good idea about the true situation Russia is in can probably be seen if one looks at Bulgaria, which has likely lost a third of its population since the end of the Cold War if you factor in it also has a large Muslim population fudging its numbers slightly.

And most people you see leaving Ukraine in various clips are black.

This is a bit shocking, how many blacks are in ukraine? Most of the people who appear in this video trying to leave Ukraine are black

WAR in UKRAINE | The EVACUATION of civilians in the HUMANITARIAN CORRIDOR of Sumi

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7450449

Let's not demonstrate blissful ignorance based on the pictures of Russian military.

If we are using Chechens and Mongoloids as a cannon fodder, let us use it.

Mass conversion of Mongoloids into Russian identity has never happened in Russian history and in every corner of Russia where >90% of people identify as Russian, they are Russian.

Open YouTube, search Russian cities in the most vulnerable spots of Russia — Samara, Saratov (along the border with Kazakhstan) or even Khabarovsk and Vladivostok (along the border with China) and see yourself.

[Haimerich]

This is fake news, there are no Russian conscripts involved in Ukraine -- only professional soldiers. Beware of lies and propaganda coming from Ukraine. They also post false made up videos, and videos from other past conflicts, and claim to be from this one. Numerous such cases have been debunked, even by the BBC

Oh okay, let me rephrase:

Take a gander at the young Russian professionals you see in various clips coming out from this conflict, you'll notice like half appear to be outright Asiatic or Turkic - which isn't a good sign for the future demographic composition of Russia. This isn't even considering how many Turkic-looking peoples simply "identify" as Russian because they do not reside in one of the autonomous Republics of the Russian Federation. A good idea about the true situation Russia is in can probably be seen if one looks at Bulgaria, which has likely lost a third of its population since the end of the Cold War if you factor in it also has a large Muslim population fudging its numbers slightly.

[Haimerich]

Mass conversion of Mongoloids into Russian identity has never happened in Russian history and in every corner of Russia where >90% of people identify as Russian, they are Russian.

Very bold statement to make without much evidence, I refer back to here:

„The results of the analysis of statistical data on the population of Russia provide rich food for thought.

The official consultant from the power department of the Russian Federation shared some very interesting statistics.

The total population of Russia, according to the latest information, is, according to various estimates, less than 132,000,000 people. Of these, 74% (97.680.000) live in cities and urban-type settlements, and: in Moscow - 10.969.000, in the Moscow region - 7.900.000, in St. Petersburg - 6.897.000, in the Leningrad region - 3.350.000 .

The national and ethnic composition of Moscow is as follows:

Russians - 31%
Azerbaijanis - 14%
Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs - 10%
Ukrainians - 8%
Armenians - 5%
Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%
Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 5%
Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush - 4%
Belarusians - 3%
Georgians - 3%
Moldovans - 3%
gypsies - 3%
Jews - 2%
Other nations - 4%

More than 11 million people live in Moscow, of which Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, all together - 4.620.000. In the capital of the Russian State, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians are a national minority!

In Russia, more than 20,000,000 people profess Islam and officially consider themselves Muslims, while true Orthodox - no more than 4.5%, which is no more than 6 million people. Over the past 15 years, the number of Muslims in Russia has increased by 40%.

There are more Azerbaijanis living in Russia than in Baku, and there are more Tatars in Moscow than in Kazan.

By the middle of the century, at least every fourth Russian will be a Muslim.

According to representatives of the National Organization of Russian Muslims, at least three Russians convert to Islam every Friday in St. Petersburg. The vast majority of them are students.“

https://asiarussia.ru/news/7667/

These stats are from 2015. RF ���� call «power departament» (Siloviki) those who work at GRU, FSB, SVR, FSO, Drug Control, basically feds, police etc. They collect info on external and internal migration between or in federative republic and actual ethnicity of the people, not only what they call themselves during census. There's no federative republic for «ethnic» russians, only for other nations or ethnicities, so as a result of that there's many asiatic or middle-east looking people calling themselves «russians», unfortunately.
Also on wikipedia page about Moscow you will only find stats from 2010 census and it is noted there „excluding migrant workers and illegal immigrants“.

Rich food for thought, indeed.

I think you are not arguing in good faith (idk, seems like you're trying to insinuate that I'm saying Russians aren't white while Ukrainians are). My point is like the rest of Europe, Russia is facing a demographic crisis that is slightly masked by mass migration from Asia, there were claims here made that they (white, slavic-stock, Russians) were briefly demographically recovering when the opposite is the true case. Someone can say "Hey Germany's population climbed to an all-time high of 80+ million last few years" or "France has one of the highest fertility rates in Europe, isn't this great?" but it's ignoring that these numbers are deceiving because they are the result of migrants, not the native population. Stop having your head in the sand about these facts.

[Russki]

Russians - 31%
Azerbaijanis - 14%
Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs - 10%
Ukrainians - 8%
Armenians - 5%
Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%
Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 5%
Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush - 4%
Belarusians - 3%
Georgians - 3%
Moldovans - 3%
gypsies - 3%
Jews - 2%
Other nations - 4%


https://asiarussia.ru/news/7667/

You know that you are quoting a literal troll website?

And these numbers are pulled out of someone's ass?

31% Russians and 14% Azerbaijanis in Moscow?

2 to 1 ratio of Russians and Azeris? For real?

Why exactly Azerbaijanis though, of all people? Seems oddly specific. We don't have any special history with Azerbaijan of all countries.

Maybe the troll who published this is an Azeri himself.



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Where are you from, brother?

It's clearly your troll account, not the main one.

[Haimerich]

We don't have any special history with Azerbaijan of all countries

Well they were part of your country for like 200 years. So...

Also just calling info you don't like "trolling" isn't really an argument. You'll need to show me up-to-date census figures (that do not exclude migrant workers) and which directly contradict these numbers.

Where are you from, brother?

It's clearly your troll account, not the main one.

Nope, only this account. Because I'm being dead serious.

[Alenka]

Both Ukraine and Russia are extremely Jewish. Putin regularly cozies up with Jews and Jews have become very influential under his rule. Russia certainly doesn't champion traditional values - unless you count rampant brown immigration, the unabated growth of Islam, cracking down on pro-White movements and corruption as traditionally Russian.

The anti-Russian/anti-Putin sentiment is leftover from the Cold War red scare. It doesn't really mean anything, but it means the world to normies who are capable of understanding basic "us vs them" narratives.

For me, the moment someone acts in a selfish manner against their own race, even situationally in the case of him, that makes him anti-white. Supporting Jews "only sometimes" is already too much. Supporting Assad against Israel when it is in Putin's own interests does not come close to making up for it. I like that Putin's actions are screwing with the current World Order, and I don't like Ukraine's Jewish leader either but I don't support white-on-white wars. Both sides are tainted with Jews.

I agree, your most important worldly task is the preservation of your race, your most important unworldly task is to follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, these are the main tenants of Christian Nationalism

^It's giving...

Spoiler!

Cute.

[Russki]

You'll need to show me up-to-date census figures (that do not exclude migrant workers) and which directly contradict these numbers.

You need to come up with a serious source for these numbers to contradict them.

Source for them, as such, doesn't exist.

I've been responding to 4chan trolls who have been spamming this since 2015.

Nope, only this account. Because I'm being dead serious.

I'm very suspicious.

Your account is 1 day old, you already made a donation, and you fully know how to navigate your account in all details - from profile picture to signature.

And your only interest is Ukraine-Russia conflict, you didn't make a single post in Anthropology section, even though TheApricity is mainly Anthropology forum.

Up to Loki, I guess.

[Haimerich]

^It's giving...

Spoiler!

Cute.

Not sock puppets, IRL friends who I told to join this wonderful forum, and the IPs will check out.