Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

[Token]

O quão bem vocês são modelados com a nova amostra da Cultura da Ceramica Cordada? É o R1b do tipo europeu mais antigo no momento.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?319843-R1b-L151-found-in-Swiss-Corded-Ware

[Defcon2]

Provavelmente estará relacionado com o facto de testarmos com diferentes companhias, diferentes chips e consequentemente diferenças na sobreposição dos SNPs podendo haver algumas variações. No entanto, na minha percepção e forma de interpretar esta calculadora não acho que faça diferença ter mais ou menos North Sea, Fennoscandian ou North Atlantic. São só nomes diferentes para mesolithic hunter-gatherer components.


23andMe al parecer me detecta más componentes norteños que la lectura del archivo sin procesar por parte de terceros, crees que esto tiene sentido alguno comparado con otros resultados míos? parece algo capado ese archivo o me da esa sensación.

https://i.postimg.cc/hGxmCtKR/23.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Os resultados que se obtém no 23andMe e diversas calculadoras são duas coisas distintas. Como eu já disse, os teus resultados são completamente normais para um Ibérico, 38% Steppe\WHG, a média deverá andar pelos ~40%. Mais dois por cento, menos dois por cento não faz qualquer diferença.

[Defcon2]

Os resultados que se obtém no 23andMe e diversas calculadoras são duas coisas distintas. Como eu já disse, os teus resultados são completamente normais para um Ibérico, 38% Steppe\WHG, a média deverá andar pelos ~40%. Mais dois por cento, menos dois por cento não faz qualquer diferença.

Son cosas distintas pero tratan de lo mismo: no puedo ser un primo lejano de Thor en un resultado y en otro ser un 10% devoto de Alá, debe haber cierta coherencia. A qué hago más caso? y eso que soy 100% español sin influencia foránea que yo sepa desde hace cientos de años.

Me volvería loco de estar algo más mezcladito. La falta de snps vista en Gedmatch me ha dejado tocado.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Son cosas distintas pero tratan de lo mismo: no puedo ser un primo lejano de Thor en un resultado y en otro ser un 10% devoto de Alá, debe haber cierta coherencia. A qué hago más caso? y eso que soy 100% español sin influencia foránea que yo sepa desde hace cientos de años.

Me volvería loco de estar algo más mezcladito. La falta de snps vista en Gedmatch me ha dejado tocado.

https://i.imgur.com/jIgkjwZ.png

O meu 23andMe mal me dá Norte da Europa. Mas isso agora depois de várias actualizações, quando testei em 2017 só tinha 51% Ibérico e 20% do Norte da Europa.

Tu és Espanhol não te preocupes e todos os Espanhóis têm componentes do Norte da Europa.

[gixajo]

tengo curiosidad por saber que me daría a mí 23andme...

[Defcon2]

https://i.imgur.com/jIgkjwZ.png

O meu 23andMe mal me dá Norte da Europa. Mas isso agora depois de várias actualizações, quando testei em 2017 só tinha 51% Ibérico e 20% do Norte da Europa.

Tu és Espanhol não te preocupes e todos os Espanhóis têm componentes do Norte da Europa.

Tu ibérico es muy alto para ser portugués no vasco, estás muy cerca de la referencia usada.

Entonces me lo tomo como algo aleatorio y si me da algún porcentaje en algo no hacerle caso.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Tu ibérico es muy alto para ser portugués no vasco, estás muy cerca de la referencia usada.

Entonces me lo tomo como algo aleatorio y si me da algún porcentaje en algo no hacerle caso.

Eu testei o meu pai também, portanto os meus resultados foram faseados com os dele. Se todos os membros Ibéricos daqui testassem ambos os pais, de certeza que ficariam próximos de 100% Ibérico porque o 23andMe baseia-se nos antepassados dos últimos cinco séculos (e provavelmente 95% dos Portugueses e Espanhóis não têm antepassados estrangeiros nos últimos cinco séculos).

[PT Tagus]

https://i.gyazo.com/9ac55306304a4c6b82e2726ac2f5d86e.png Yo no pertenezco a ninguna parte

No hay más preciso que eso. :lol:

https://i.postimg.cc/c0fKW4TN/k36.png

[Rocinante]

Yo deje de creer en el Gedmatch, pero aportare mis resultados del K15 y K36 por escrito:

Eurogenes K15:

1 North_Sea 22.36
2 West_Med 19.48
3 Atlantic 18.18
4 East_Med 14.94
5 Baltic 6.23
6 West_Asian 6.09
7 Eastern_Euro 5.05
8 Red_Sea 3.94
9 Northeast_African 1.98
10 Sub-Saharan 1.1
11 South_Asian 0.37
12 Siberian 0.28

1 North_Italian 7.38
2 Spanish_Galicia 8.66
3 Portuguese 9.1
4 Tuscan 9.72
5 Spanish_Extremadura 10.44

1 62.1% Spanish_Galicia + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77

1 Libyan_Jewish + Sardinian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.147185

Eurogenes K36:

Italian 22.51 Pct
Iberian 22.50 Pct
North_Sea 8.81 Pct
East_Med 8.69 Pct
East_Balkan 5.97 Pct
Near_Eastern 4.68 Pct
Basque 4.57 Pct
North_African 4.27 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.12 Pct
East_Central_Euro 4.02 Pct
West_Med 2.27 Pct
North_Atlantic 1.95 Pct
Central_Euro 1.36 Pct
West_Caucasian 1.17 Pct
French 0.96 Pct
East_African 0.90 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.83 Pct
Pygmy 0.40 Pct

A ver si cambian algo cuando me den la nueva raw data.

[Defcon2]

Yo deje de creer en el Gedmatch, pero aportare mis resultados del K15 y K36 por escrito:

Eurogenes K15:

1 North_Sea 22.36
2 West_Med 19.48
3 Atlantic 18.18
4 East_Med 14.94
5 Baltic 6.23
6 West_Asian 6.09
7 Eastern_Euro 5.05
8 Red_Sea 3.94
9 Northeast_African 1.98
10 Sub-Saharan 1.1
11 South_Asian 0.37
12 Siberian 0.28

1 North_Italian 7.38
2 Spanish_Galicia 8.66
3 Portuguese 9.1
4 Tuscan 9.72
5 Spanish_Extremadura 10.44

1 62.1% Spanish_Galicia + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77

1 Libyan_Jewish + Sardinian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.147185

Eurogenes K36:

Italian 22.51 Pct
Iberian 22.50 Pct
North_Sea 8.81 Pct
East_Med 8.69 Pct
East_Balkan 5.97 Pct
Near_Eastern 4.68 Pct
Basque 4.57 Pct
North_African 4.27 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.12 Pct
East_Central_Euro 4.02 Pct
West_Med 2.27 Pct
North_Atlantic 1.95 Pct
Central_Euro 1.36 Pct
West_Caucasian 1.17 Pct
French 0.96 Pct
East_African 0.90 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.83 Pct
Pygmy 0.40 Pct

A ver si cambian algo cuando me den la nueva raw data.

Intentando hacer lo aprendido de Bras fumador de pipa.

Componente Mesolitico HG:
North_Sea
Baltic
Eastern_Euro

Componente Neolitico Farmer:
Atlantic
West Med
West_Asian
Red_Sea
East_Med
South_Asian

Indefinido:
Siberian
Northeast_African
Sub-Saharan

A ti de poblaciones mixtas secundarias que te sale? el mío es un desastre, son todo tribus africanas. Aragon/Cantabria + tribu random, está claro que la calculadora no fue pensada para gente con 1/3 africano como yo y es para europeos solamente.


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% Yoruban @ 5.18
2 96.7% Spanish_Aragon + 3.3% Mandenka @ 5.2
3 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 5.23
4 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.25
5 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.29
6 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Luhya @ 5.36
7 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.36
8 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 5.44
9 97.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.4% Yoruban @ 5.44
10 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Mandenka @ 5.47
11 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_S.W. @ 5.51
12 92.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.51
13 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.52
14 90.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 9.4% Sardinian @ 5.55
15 92.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.5% Tunisian @ 5.56
16 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.57
17 92.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.3% Algerian @ 5.6
18 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Luhya @ 5.63
19 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% San @ 5.63
20 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.64

[PT Tagus]

A ti de poblaciones mixtas secundarias que te sale? el mío es un desastre, son todo tribus africanas. Aragon/Cantabria + tribu random, está claro que la calculadora no fue pensada para gente con 1/3 africano como yo y es para europeos solamente.


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% Yoruban @ 5.18
2 96.7% Spanish_Aragon + 3.3% Mandenka @ 5.2
3 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 5.23
4 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.25
5 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.29
6 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Luhya @ 5.36
7 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.36
8 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 5.44
9 97.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.4% Yoruban @ 5.44
10 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Mandenka @ 5.47
11 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_S.W. @ 5.51
12 92.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.51
13 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.52
14 90.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 9.4% Sardinian @ 5.55
15 92.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.5% Tunisian @ 5.56
16 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.57
17 92.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.3% Algerian @ 5.6
18 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Luhya @ 5.63
19 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% San @ 5.63
20 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.64


Claramente, estas calculadoras no son para nosotros. :rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/n09g4LE.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Intentando hacer lo aprendido de Bras fumador de pipa.

Tienes que aprender de tu vecino el Presidente del Girona Pipa Club, un hombre sabio y muy elegante :D

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/iCkrxc1MXmrREAWXzWQMm1DsjnPVBoL_zW2U4tanTx8Wdyoj_R o-o_wgOyCYahaRUMPp3QE3vf53Z2KX_XTsz2tb7LuZatOjS-NwHxtfhFuZ5ptQwQej-DtfFiseW2TGuk7iSKDf8eSGOA

[Defcon2]

Tienes que aprender de tu vecino el Presidente del Girona Pipa Club, un hombre sabio y muy elegante :D

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/iCkrxc1MXmrREAWXzWQMm1DsjnPVBoL_zW2U4tanTx8Wdyoj_R o-o_wgOyCYahaRUMPp3QE3vf53Z2KX_XTsz2tb7LuZatOjS-NwHxtfhFuZ5ptQwQej-DtfFiseW2TGuk7iSKDf8eSGOA

Tengo un suspenso o un aprobado? tengo dudas de donde poner a South Asian, me parece que no tiene nada que ver con el neolitico.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Tengo un suspenso o un aprobado? tengo dudas de donde poner a South Asian, me parece que no tiene nada que ver con el neolitico.

South Asian é ASI (Ancestral South Indian). Proto-Dravidian.

[Defcon2]

Claramente, estas calculadoras no son para nosotros. :rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/n09g4LE.png

Siempre me da reparo mirarlo, son la peste hecha en porcentaje, no acierta una para nosotros.


South Asian é ASI (Ancestral South Indian). Proto-Dravidian.

ADN gitano, Proto-Gitano o Ancient Gitano.

[gixajo]

South Asian é ASI (Ancestral South Indian). Proto-Dravidian.

Qué buen juego de palabras...

El Sur de Asia, es así.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Qué buen juego de palabras...

El Sur de Asia, es así.

Sim, apenas quis dizer que normalmente a sample que costumam usar para South Asian está sob a sigla de ASI.

[gixajo]

Siempre me da reparo mirarlo, son la peste hecha en porcentaje, no acierta una para nosotros.



ADN gitano, Proto-Gitano o Ancient Gitano.

Si haces el Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle ya verás que fantasía de resultados.

[Defcon2]

Si haces el Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle ya verás que fantasía de resultados.

Bueno bueno bueno.

Un 36.18 europeo.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 43.94
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 36.18
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.68
4 Sub_Saharan 1.2

Una especie de bulgaro, rumano, albanés o griego, claramente es otra persona.

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 2.51
2 Romanian 3.54
3 Albanian 3.88
4 Greek 5.47
5 Croatian 7.06
6 Spanish 8.04
7 Sicilian 8.49
8 Italian_South 9.93
9 French 9.99
10 Hungarian 10.23
11 Jew_Ashkenazi 10.72
12 Czech 12.55
13 English 12.57
14 Ukrainian 13.66
15 Scottish 13.78
16 Norwegian 14.39
17 Basque 15.11
18 Jew_Moroccan 15.17
19 Sardinian 15.29
20 Icelandic 16.31

Me da más regiones europeas que el K15 modo mixto, cuidao.


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Italian_South + 12.7% Motala12 @ 0.79
2 87% Italian_South + 13% SHG @ 0.88
3 86.8% Sardinian + 13.2% AG2 @ 0.89
4 86.8% Sardinian + 13.2% AG3 @ 0.89
5 86.8% Sardinian + 13.2% MA1 @ 0.89
6 55.9% Italian_South + 44.1% English @ 0.9
7 82.1% Albanian + 17.9% Europe_LNBA @ 0.92
8 81.2% Albanian + 18.8% Icelandic @ 0.93
9 76.9% Albanian + 23.1% English @ 0.97
10 79.3% Albanian + 20.7% Norwegian @ 0.98
11 84.5% Albanian + 15.5% Lithuanian @ 1.02
12 59.8% Sicilian + 40.2% English @ 1.02
13 77% Albanian + 23% Czech @ 1.03
14 78.7% Albanian + 21.3% Scottish @ 1.08
15 67.7% French + 32.3% Cypriot @ 1.09
16 64.9% Greek + 35.1% French @ 1.11
17 94.7% Albanian + 5.3% SHG @ 1.12
18 94.8% Albanian + 5.2% Motala12 @ 1.14
19 65.3% Albanian + 34.7% Croatian @ 1.15
20 93.7% Greek + 6.3% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.16

[gixajo]

Bueno bueno bueno.

Un 36.18 europeo.

Aer]

Yo según ese soy la reencarnación de Sabino Arana y Goiri, pura fantasía.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 47.11
2 Natufian 39.87
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 12.32
4 Sub_Saharan 0.69
5 East_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Basque 2.24
2 French 5.43
3 Spanish 5.61
4 English 7.45
5 Hungarian 8.03
6 Czech 8.35
7 Croatian 8.55
8 Scottish 8.65
9 Icelandic 9.96
10 Norwegian 10.09
11 Ukrainian 10.32
12 Romanian 11.21
13 Europe_LNBA 11.63
14 Bulgarian 12.98
15 Sardinian 13.17
16 Lithuanian 13.22
17 Estonian 13.47
18 Albanian 16.19
19 Finnish 16.82
20 Russian 17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.5% Basque + 19.5% Croatian @ 0.88
2 72.4% Basque + 27.6% French @ 0.92
3 96.7% Basque + 3.3% CHG @ 0.92
4 94.8% Basque + 5.2% Lezgin @ 0.94
5 96% Basque + 4% Iran_N @ 0.97
6 94.8% Basque + 5.2% Chechen @ 1
7 96.4% Basque + 3.6% Baloch_Iranian @ 1
8 96.2% Basque + 3.8% Iranian_Lori @ 1.01
9 84.8% Basque + 15.2% Romanian @ 1.01
10 86.7% Basque + 13.3% Bulgarian @ 1.03
11 96.5% Basque + 3.5% Makrani @ 1.05
12 94.6% Basque + 5.4% Kumyk @ 1.06
13 96.1% Basque + 3.9% Iran_LN @ 1.08
14 95.9% Basque + 4.1% Iranian_Shirazi @ 1.08
15 96% Basque + 4% Iran_ChL @ 1.08
16 94.7% Basque + 5.3% Adygei @ 1.08
17 96% Basque + 4% Kurd_F @ 1.09
18 96% Basque + 4% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 1.11
19 96.7% Basque + 3.3% Brahui @ 1.12
20 74% Basque + 26% Spanish @ 1.13

:rofl_002:

[gixajo]

Para mí el k15 no me parece tan desacertado.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 32.08
2 West_Med 23.79
3 North_Sea 18.99
4 Baltic 8.49
5 East_Med 5.03
6 Red_Sea 4.7
7 West_Asian 2.59
8 Eastern_Euro 2.27
9 Northeast_African 1.32
10 Oceanian 0.63
11 South_Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cantabria 3.88
2 Southwest_French 4.46
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.49
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.6
5 Spanish_Aragon 5.61
6 Spanish_Valencia 6.64
7 Spanish_Cataluna 6.8
8 Spanish_Andalucia 7.07
9 Spanish_Extremadura 7.2
10 Spanish_Murcia 7.59
11 Portuguese 7.76
12 Spanish_Galicia 8.51
13 North_Italian 12.78
14 French 12.92
15 French_Basque 12.92
16 South_Dutch 16.83
17 Tuscan 18.85
18 Southwest_English 19.45
19 West_German 20.42
20 Austrian 20.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.6% Southwest_French + 38.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.65
2 68.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 31.2% Southwest_French @ 3.72
3 97.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.7% Lithuanian @ 3.74
4 97.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.6% Belorussian @ 3.77
5 97.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.77
6 97.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.78
7 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Estonian_Polish @ 3.78
8 98.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.1% Somali @ 3.79
9 82.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 17.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.79
10 76.5% Southwest_French + 23.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.8
11 98.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.2% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.8
12 97.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.6% South_Polish @ 3.8
13 97.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.4% La_Brana-1 @ 3.8
14 98.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.2% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.8
15 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Polish @ 3.8
16 97.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.81
17 97% Spanish_Cantabria + 3% Croatian @ 3.81
18 98% Spanish_Cantabria + 2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.82
19 97.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.3% Ukrainian @ 3.82
20 99.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.82

[gixajo]

Y el k13, bastante parecido.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 41.06
2 West_Med 30.06
3 Baltic 11.68
4 East_Med 7.08
5 Red_Sea 5.14
6 West_Asian 2.1
7 Northeast_African 1.24
8 South_Asian 0.9
9 Oceanian 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cantabria 4.06
2 Southwest_French 4.64
3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.74
4 Spanish_Galicia 6.14
5 Spanish_Aragon 6.46
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.53
7 Spanish_Extremadura 7.39
8 Spanish_Cataluna 7.48
9 Portuguese 7.84
10 Spanish_Andalucia 7.86
11 Spanish_Valencia 8.04
12 Spanish_Murcia 8.16
13 French 11.84
14 French_Basque 13.75
15 North_Italian 14.82
16 South_Dutch 17.04
17 West_German 17.9
18 Southwest_English 19.85
19 Southeast_English 20.37
20 Tuscan 20.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Spanish_Galicia + 27.3% French_Basque @ 3.58
2 96.5% Southwest_French + 3.5% Somali @ 3.73
3 96.3% Southwest_French + 3.7% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.76
4 96.3% Southwest_French + 3.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.77
5 96.7% Southwest_French + 3.3% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.85
6 96.9% Southwest_French + 3.1% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.89
7 98.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.3% Somali @ 3.94
8 94.1% Southwest_French + 5.9% Moroccan @ 3.96
9 98.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.98
10 98.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.1% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.98
11 99% Spanish_Cantabria + 1% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.99
12 99% Spanish_Cantabria + 1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.99
13 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.99
14 78% Spanish_Cantabria + 22% Southwest_French @ 4.01
15 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Sakilli @ 4.01
16 95.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.7% French_Basque @ 4.01
17 99% Spanish_Cantabria + 1% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.01
18 99.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.9% Gujarati @ 4.01
19 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.01
20 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Dharkar @ 4.01

[PT Tagus]

Gedmatch está muy desactualizado, hace unos meses eliminé mi kit. Algunos resultados que he estado publicando se guardaron en laptop.

[Rocinante]

Intentando hacer lo aprendido de Bras fumador de pipa.

Componente Mesolitico HG:
North_Sea
Baltic
Eastern_Euro

Componente Neolitico Farmer:
Atlantic
West Med
West_Asian
Red_Sea
East_Med
South_Asian

Indefinido:
Siberian
Northeast_African
Sub-Saharan

A ti de poblaciones mixtas secundarias que te sale? el mío es un desastre, son todo tribus africanas. Aragon/Cantabria + tribu random, está claro que la calculadora no fue pensada para gente con 1/3 africano como yo y es para europeos solamente.


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.8% Spanish_Aragon + 3.2% Yoruban @ 5.18
2 96.7% Spanish_Aragon + 3.3% Mandenka @ 5.2
3 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 5.23
4 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.25
5 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.29
6 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Luhya @ 5.36
7 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.36
8 96.5% Spanish_Aragon + 3.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 5.44
9 97.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.4% Yoruban @ 5.44
10 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Mandenka @ 5.47
11 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_S.W. @ 5.51
12 92.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.51
13 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.52
14 90.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 9.4% Sardinian @ 5.55
15 92.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.5% Tunisian @ 5.56
16 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.57
17 92.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.3% Algerian @ 5.6
18 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Luhya @ 5.63
19 96.6% Spanish_Aragon + 3.4% San @ 5.63
20 97.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.64


1 62.1% Spanish_Galicia + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
2 69.4% Spanish_Galicia + 30.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.97
3 83.6% Spanish_Galicia + 16.4% Assyrian @ 4.1
4 84.2% Spanish_Galicia + 15.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.1
5 83.9% Spanish_Galicia + 16.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.16
6 70.7% French + 29.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.21
7 84.3% Spanish_Galicia + 15.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.26
8 69.6% Spanish_Galicia + 30.4% Central_Greek @ 4.33
9 84.1% Spanish_Galicia + 15.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.37
10 83.9% Spanish_Galicia + 16.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.37
11 82% Spanish_Galicia + 18% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.37
12 84% Spanish_Galicia + 16% Armenian @ 4.37
13 61.2% Portuguese + 38.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.41
14 69.4% Spanish_Galicia + 30.6% East_Sicilian @ 4.46
15 82.1% Spanish_Galicia + 17.9% Syrian @ 4.5
16 78.5% Spanish_Galicia + 21.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.52
17 81.1% Spanish_Galicia + 18.9% Cyprian @ 4.55
18 83% Spanish_Galicia + 17% Jordanian @ 4.58
19 67.8% French + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.59
20 83.5% Spanish_Galicia + 16.5% Samaritan @ 4.63

Las que marque en negrita son las que yo creo que se adaptan a mi, dado que en G25 yo saco siempre: ~65% SW Euro + ~25% SE Euro + ~5% NE Euro + ~5% ME/NA

[Defcon2]

He probado el vahaduo del ancient eurasia K6 y me sale esto, pero la distancia es enorme. Lo he probado con los resultados de gixajo y parece ser que es así.

Target: Juan_Bulgarian
Distance: 44.5651% / 0.44565054
33.6 Italian_South
15.8 Icelandic
14.8 English
9.2 Anatolia_N
5.6 Hungarian_KO1
4.6 Natufian
3.0 MA1
2.8 Levant_N
2.6 Sardinian
1.8 Saharawi
1.6 Jew_Moroccan
1.4 AG2
1.2 WHG
1.0 AG3
0.6 Moroccan
0.4 Georgian

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ancient-eurasia-k6-vahaduo.htm

[Gota_type_]

Estaba mirando los varios K13, K15 y K36 que habéis puesto varios e iba a poner que no veía algún otro componente como "Volga-Ural" (tengo un 0.70% en K36), o Siberian (que tengo entre un 0.17 y un 0.65% dependiendo de la calculadora), pero ya veo que tú sí los tienes. En realidad, a saber de qué son o de qué componente real se derivan. Iba a pensar que mi Siberian sería congruente con mi 0.1% de East Asian en 23andme (que no veo otros foreros que tengan East Asian e 23andme), pero veo que tú tienes Siberian pero no East Asian.

La verdad es q al final hacemos elucubraciones con algo que está desfasado y que las conclusiones que tomemos van a ser probablemente equivocadas.

Por cierto, el "Italian" que nos sale a todos en todas las calculadoras (y tb en 23andme), ¿a qué componente lo deberíamos identificar? ¿A ENF? Es decir, sería un componente de los ganaderos que vinieron de Anatolia?


Yo deje de creer en el Gedmatch, pero aportare mis resultados del K15 y K36 por escrito:

Eurogenes K15:

1 North_Sea 22.36
2 West_Med 19.48
3 Atlantic 18.18
4 East_Med 14.94
5 Baltic 6.23
6 West_Asian 6.09
7 Eastern_Euro 5.05
8 Red_Sea 3.94
9 Northeast_African 1.98
10 Sub-Saharan 1.1
11 South_Asian 0.37
12 Siberian 0.28

1 North_Italian 7.38
2 Spanish_Galicia 8.66
3 Portuguese 9.1
4 Tuscan 9.72
5 Spanish_Extremadura 10.44

1 62.1% Spanish_Galicia + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77

1 Libyan_Jewish + Sardinian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.147185

Eurogenes K36:

Italian 22.51 Pct
Iberian 22.50 Pct
North_Sea 8.81 Pct
East_Med 8.69 Pct
East_Balkan 5.97 Pct
Near_Eastern 4.68 Pct
Basque 4.57 Pct
North_African 4.27 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.12 Pct
East_Central_Euro 4.02 Pct
West_Med 2.27 Pct
North_Atlantic 1.95 Pct
Central_Euro 1.36 Pct
West_Caucasian 1.17 Pct
French 0.96 Pct
East_African 0.90 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.83 Pct
Pygmy 0.40 Pct

A ver si cambian algo cuando me den la nueva raw data.

[Rocinante]

Estaba mirando los varios K13, K15 y K36 que habéis puesto varios e iba a poner que no veía algún otro componente como "Volga-Ural" (tengo un 0.70% en K36), o Siberian (que tengo entre un 0.17 y un 0.65% dependiendo de la calculadora), pero ya veo que tú sí los tienes. En realidad, a saber de qué son o de qué componente real se derivan. Iba a pensar que mi Siberian sería congruente con mi 0.1% de East Asian en 23andme (que no veo otros foreros que tengan East Asian e 23andme), pero veo que tú tienes Siberian pero no East Asian.

La verdad es q al final hacemos elucubraciones con algo que está desfasado y que las conclusiones que tomemos van a ser probablemente equivocadas.

Por cierto, el "Italian" que nos sale a todos en todas las calculadoras (y tb en 23andme), ¿a qué componente lo deberíamos identificar? ¿A ENF? Es decir, sería un componente de los ganaderos que vinieron de Anatolia?

Esta interesante el enfoque al Volga-Ural y el Siberian, el cual yo pienso que, en mi caso, se estaria complementando con el Fennoscandian, al igual que mi Paleo-Balkan con mi West-Asian, son como derramamientos de las propias coordenadas que echaran un ~1% en sus componentes vecinos.

El Italian del K36 hace los picos en la Toscana, y a mi me da demasiado porque recuerda que yo soy 1/4 italiano, el otro 3/4 es español, por eso las variaciones conmigo aqui en el gedmatch y el G25 son un poco evidentes. No creo que sea un componente EEF como tal, porque si te pones a ver hasta el propio Fennoscandian seguro que tiene un pedacito de EEF, tu mira nada mas:

Target: Finnish
Distance: 3.9468% / 0.03946775
30.8 Steppe_Pastoralist
29.0 Early_European_Farmer
23.0 Scandinavian_Hunter-Gatherer
14.0 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
3.2 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic

Target: Swedish
Distance: 3.2488% / 0.03248768
41.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
36.0 Early_European_Farmer
14.8 Scandinavian_Hunter-Gatherer
7.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

Eso con el G25, la distancia esta casi en 4%, esta algo alta, pero eso es porque hay un componente que esta ausente, pero de que tienen EEF, tienen, no creo que ese K36 este basado como tal en la formula EEF+STEPPE+WHG, seguro que no, creo que ni sabian de los esteparios para cuando crearon esa calculadora.

[Defcon2]

Un tapón llamado Cataluña, entre esto y el sur de Francia tenemos un muro infranqueable con el resto de Europa.

https://i.imgur.com/Bj2GLKo.png

[gixajo]

Acabo de pedir dos kits de MyHeritage para mis padres.:picard1:

Mi madre no tiene ningún problema en hacérselo, mi padre está reacio, pero espero que cuando tenga enfrente el kit acepte hacérselo.

El de 23 and me, para mí, lo dejo para más adelante, ahora me interesan más ellos.

Leí ayer a un americano que dijo que como estos días la gente no se hace tests, el suyo de 23andme le tardó solo 3 días en llegarle los resultados. Los de MH siguen haciendo kits, ya que la oferta de estos días es rpecisamente "para que te quedes en casa".

Si no quiere mi padre, su hermano sé que no querrá hacérselo, pero igual su hermana si.

A ver como va la cosa...

[Defcon2]

Este es el promedio de las 76 muestras catalanas, un 43.5 en estepa + whg, es decir un 6% por encima de mí. Al menos no llega en porcentaje a los valquirios de Soria que era un 45%.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBK7gLgC/nordicoscatalanes.png


Acabo de pedir dos kits de MyHeritage para mis padres.:picard1:

Mi madre no tiene ningún problema en hacérselo, mi padre está reacio, pero espero que cuando tenga enfrente el kit acepte hacérselo.

El de 23 and me, para mí, lo dejo para más adelante, ahora me interesan más ellos.

Leí ayer a un americano que dijo que como estos días la gente no se hace tests, el suyo de 23andme le tardó solo 3 días en llegarle los resultados. Los de MH siguen haciendo kits, ya que la oferta de estos días es rpecisamente "para que te quedes en casa".

Si no quiere mi padre, su hermano sé que no querrá hacérselo, pero igual su hermana si.

A ver como va la cosa...

Me gustaría testear a mis papás pero no sé ni como enfocar el tema sin sonrojarme :picard1:

[mitalit]

Acabo de pedir dos kits de MyHeritage para mis padres.:picard1:

Mi madre no tiene ningún problema en hacérselo, mi padre está reacio, pero espero que cuando tenga enfrente el kit acepte hacérselo.

El de 23 and me, para mí, lo dejo para más adelante, ahora me interesan más ellos.

Leí ayer a un americano que dijo que como estos días la gente no se hace tests, el suyo de 23andme le tardó solo 3 días en llegarle los resultados. Los de MH siguen haciendo kits, ya que la oferta de estos días es rpecisamente "para que te quedes en casa".

Si no quiere mi padre, su hermano sé que no querrá hacérselo, pero igual su hermana si.

A ver como va la cosa...

Pero para enviarlo tienes que salir no? Esta a 50 euros cada uno no¿

[gixajo]

Este es el promedio de las 76 muestras catalanas, un 43.5 en estepa + whg, es decir un 6% por encima de mí. Al menos no llega en porcentaje a los valquirios de Soria que era un 45%.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBK7gLgC/nordicoscatalanes.png



Me gustaría testear a mis papás pero no sé ni como enfocar el tema sin sonrojarme :picard1:

Se van a pensar que crees que no eres su hijo o qué?

En mi caso, mi padre está tranquilo en ese sentido, porque salieron familiares de su madre, así que ya sabe que soy hijo suyo. :p

[Defcon2]

Se van a pensar que crees que no eres su hijo o qué?

En mi caso, mi padre está tranquilo en ese sentido, porque salieron familiares de su madre, así que ya sabe que soy hijo suyo. :p

Por sus maneras de ser, entre que mi padre que es más anticuado que un tocadiscos y mi madre más agarrada que el estereotipo catalán pues me causa cierta sospecha de cierto rechazo por parte de ellos y prefiero ni intentarlo.
Me lo imagino, "eso es una tontería moderna" mi padre, y "te estás gastando el dinero en tonterías" por parte de madre. Lo veo crudo.

[gixajo]

Pero para enviarlo tienes que salir no? Esta a 50 euros cada uno no¿

Si 49 euros cada uno, pidiendo dos te regalan los gastos de envío. cada sello son 1,50 euros. Tengo la oficina de correos del pueblo a 200 metros, correos funciona bien, mi hermana pidió unos libros la semana pasada y le llegaron a los dos días.

[Rocinante]

Acabo de pedir dos kits de MyHeritage para mis padres.:picard1:

Mi madre no tiene ningún problema en hacérselo, mi padre está reacio, pero espero que cuando tenga enfrente el kit acepte hacérselo.

El de 23 and me, para mí, lo dejo para más adelante, ahora me interesan más ellos.

Leí ayer a un americano que dijo que como estos días la gente no se hace tests, el suyo de 23andme le tardó solo 3 días en llegarle los resultados. Los de MH siguen haciendo kits, ya que la oferta de estos días es rpecisamente "para que te quedes en casa".

Si no quiere mi padre, su hermano sé que no querrá hacérselo, pero igual su hermana si.

A ver como va la cosa...

Hiciste bien, pues al tenerlos tan cerca y comprarles el kit que esta regalado, vamos, yo lo haria. A mi familia se lo quisiera hacer pero la tengo dificil, no solo por la distancia, mi padre no va a querer acceder, mi madre podria ser.


Por sus maneras de ser, entre que mi padre que es más anticuado que un tocadiscos y mi madre más agarrada que el estereotipo catalán pues me causa cierta sospecha de cierto rechazo por parte de ellos y prefiero ni intentarlo.
Me lo imagino, "eso es una tontería moderna" mi padre, y "te estás gastando el dinero en tonterías" por parte de madre. Lo veo crudo.

Jajajajaja, me siento identificado con esto.

Yo cuando le dije a mi papá que habia comprado el kit, le cayo como un baldazo de agua fria, y me pregunto si era tonto xD y cada vez que le cuento algo sobre esto (ya desde hace un tiempo no lo hago) pues se rie, no le gustan estas cosas, el no cree en estas mierdas, por asi decirlo.

A mi novia si quiero hacerle el test, a ver que tal. Si pudiese, le compro el kit de MH que esta regalado, literal.

[gixajo]

Por sus maneras de ser, entre que mi padre que es más anticuado que un tocadiscos y mi madre más agarrada que el estereotipo catalán pues me causa cierta sospecha de cierto rechazo por parte de ellos y prefiero ni intentarlo.
Me lo imagino, "eso es una tontería moderna" mi padre, y "te estás gastando el dinero en tonterías" por parte de madre. Lo veo crudo.

Yo les he ido comentando lo que voy encontrando para que se vayan interesando desde el principio, y se lo he ido presentando bastante bien, así que me extrañó que mi padre por ahora diga que no, pero me da la impresión que aceptará cuando tenga el kit delante.

Si no quiere , lo que dije, me interesaría uno de sus hermanos para tener un resultado similar al suyo, pero mientras estemos confinados no puedo ir donde viven ellos.

[Damião de Góis]

myHeritage a 50€ é uma boa compra, no entanto sempre achei os resultados não muito credíveis. 23andme será sempre superior.

Eu fiz o myHeritage quando era gratis.

[Rocinante]

myHeritage a 50€ é uma boa compra, no entanto sempre achei os resultados não muito credíveis. 23andme será sempre superior.

Eu fiz o myHeritage quando era gratis.

No importa los resultados etnicos, lo que importa es la Raw Data, por eso es un muy buen precio solo 49EUR por el kit.

[Defcon2]

Hiciste bien, pues al tenerlos tan cerca y comprarles el kit que esta regalado, vamos, yo lo haria. A mi familia se lo quisiera hacer pero la tengo dificil, no solo por la distancia, mi padre no va a querer acceder, mi madre podria ser.



Jajajajaja, me siento identificado con esto.

Yo cuando le dije a mi papá que habia comprado el kit, le cayo como un baldazo de agua fria, y me pregunto si era tonto xD y cada vez que le cuento algo sobre esto (ya desde hace un tiempo no lo hago) pues se rie, no le gustan estas cosas, el no cree en estas mierdas, por asi decirlo.

A mi novia si quiero hacerle el test, a ver que tal. Si pudiese, le compro el kit de MH que esta regalado, literal.

Habrá que hacerlo a hurtadillas, frotando mejillas mientras duermen. :rolleyes: (cara de instinto asesino)

[Damião de Góis]

No importa los resultados etnicos, lo que importa es la Raw Data, por eso es un muy buen precio solo 49EUR por el kit.

Nem sabia que havia raw data no myHeritage. Vou investigar.

[Defcon2]

No importa los resultados etnicos, lo que importa es la Raw Data, por eso es un muy buen precio solo 49EUR por el kit.

Es verdad, sabiendo que somos españoles o portugueses que más dará la estimación étnica hecha por la empresa. Lo que importa son los numeritos de G25 y Gedmatch.

[PT Tagus]

fixed :D


Es verdad, sabiendo que somos españoles o portugueses que más dará la estimación étnica hecha por la empresa. Lo que importa son los numeritos de G25.

[gixajo]

Sí, esa es la idea, los raw data, y luego exportarlos a diferentes sitios como hice con los míos.

Teniendo una idea de mis resultados, más o menos me hago una idea de la etimación étnica que les dará MH, especialmente la de mi madre es bastante previsible, la de mi padre tendrá más variedad, salvo sorpresa, aunque teniendo la estimación de MH del hermano de su madre, tampoco hay mucho margen de sorpresa.

Mi madre será practicamente 100 Ibérica y mi padre cerca del 90%, y el resto a ver lo que sale.

[Damião de Góis]

Não encontro o raw data, no entanto é possível que as contas "gratis" não tenham essa opção. Aqui fica um screenshot dos meus resultados lá:


https://i.imgur.com/ARqMVuJ.jpg

[Defcon2]

Não encontro o raw data, no entanto é possível que as contas "gratis" não tenham essa opção. Aqui fica um screenshot dos meus resultados lá:


https://i.imgur.com/ARqMVuJ.jpg


Tiene que pasar tu saliva o hisopo por el laboratorio para generar el Raw data. Siendo una subida gratuita con el raw de otra empresa es normal que no haya.

[gixajo]

Não encontro o raw data, no entanto é possível que as contas "gratis" não tenham essa opção. Aqui fica um screenshot dos meus resultados lá:


https://i.imgur.com/ARqMVuJ.jpg


Si no te hiciste el test de saliva si no que obtuviste la estimación étnica exportando tus raw data de 23AndMe u otros, no tienes los raw data de MH.

[Damião de Góis]

Sim faz sentido.

[PT Tagus]

O Brás (fumador de pipa :D) disse-me que a raw data é mais ou menos idêntica de companhia para companhia.
As estimações étnicas é que variam, e as do MH são uma verdadeira merda.

[Rocinante]

O Brás (fumador de pipa :D) disse-me que a raw data é mais ou menos idêntica de companhia para companhia.
As estimações étnicas é que variam, e as do MH são uma verdadeira merda.

El Popeye portugues tiene razon, son casi identicas, de hecho, yo estoy esperando una actualizacion de mi Raw Data en MH (pague por la actualizacion de salud) para mas covertura en Y-DNA. Las estimaciones etnicas de MH son peor que el corona virus xD


Es verdad, sabiendo que somos españoles o portugueses que más dará la estimación étnica hecha por la empresa. Lo que importa son los numeritos de G25 y Gedmatch.

Exactamente, de hecho, yo a los que se no hayan hecho el test, que paguen los 49 EUR de MH, obtenga el raw data e inviertan unos 10 EUR en el G25, vamos, seria lo mas recomendable. Yo se lo dije por PM a AlfonsoVIII, que hiciera eso, que el solo tiene el test de Y-DNA, el cual dice que es un vikingo.


Nem sabia que havia raw data no myHeritage. Vou investigar.

Tiene raw data, como todas las compañias, y son casi todas iguales, solo cambian la cantidad de Y-DNA SNPs.

[Gota_type_]

¿Sabéis dónde está la relación de las muestras españolas que se utilizan en las distintas calculadoras para hacer el Ancestry Composition (23andme, FamilytreeDNA, Ancestry.com, etc)? Es decir, ¿cuál es la base que utilizan para que luego los demás nos comparemos?

Creí haber leído hace años que en algunos casos utilizaban un listado de 1000 personas que habían estado hospitalizadas (hace décadas) y accedieron a que les tomaran sangre para hacer el análisis de ADN, pero no me acuerdo qué compañía lo utilizan como referencia.

Porque claro en función de qué tomen como muestra, así serán nuestros resultados más congruentes o menos. Y también sería muy importante saber si las muestras las tomaron de ciudades o también de pueblos medianos y pequeños. Me da la impresión de que todas las muestras por las cuales nos comparamos son de ciudades y que muy pocos pueblos han sido analizados genéticamente, y es precisamente en los pueblos donde está más la pureza de las poblaciones. Las ciudades a fin de cuentas han recibido gentes de otros lugares a lo largo de los siglos (y también era donde vivían por ejemplo los judíos y musulmanes) y, por tanto, al tomarlas como referencia luego las personas que somos de lugares pequeños o que no estamos cerca del lugar de la referencia, pues nos terminan saliendo resultados inexplicables.

Incluso podríamos pensar que si todas las compañías utilizan muestras a las que se les hizo el análisis de ADN hace 10 años, entonces los resultados de ADN de hace 10 años (prehistoria de la genética de poblaciones) son los que utilizaban para referenciar a los que 10 años después nos hacemos los análisis de ADN, y obviamente utilizar el criterio de los resultados de hace 10 años para luego tratar de identificar a pruebas de ADN actuales, pues es obviamente un error.

Por tanto, ¿alguna idea de ver qué referencias muestrales utilizan las distintas compañías?

[Gallop]

Ancient Eurasia Sttepe and Gedmatch kits

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rja6ZyjQrz3UK7_HTagkzczoOFjwcXOGdNOm9FC3Rik/edit?fbclid=IwAR16nOqZ6TaL3cEdWwcdltWrZsuWvdt922XY sZAbLNfOIASqQuMttqmjSnU#gid=0

Interesante enlace con haplogrupos antiguos de la Estepa.

Está el mío EV22 DA65 tengo una coincidencia, no está mal, después de tanto tiempo.

[Defcon2]

¿Sabéis dónde está la relación de las muestras españolas que se utilizan en las distintas calculadoras para hacer el Ancestry Composition (23andme, FamilytreeDNA, Ancestry.com, etc)? Es decir, ¿cuál es la base que utilizan para que luego los demás nos comparemos?

Creí haber leído hace años que en algunos casos utilizaban un listado de 1000 personas que habían estado hospitalizadas (hace décadas) y accedieron a que les tomaran sangre para hacer el análisis de ADN, pero no me acuerdo qué compañía lo utilizan como referencia.

Porque claro en función de qué tomen como muestra, así serán nuestros resultados más congruentes o menos. Y también sería muy importante saber si las muestras las tomaron de ciudades o también de pueblos medianos y pequeños. Me da la impresión de que todas las muestras por las cuales nos comparamos son de ciudades y que muy pocos pueblos han sido analizados genéticamente, y es precisamente en los pueblos donde está más la pureza de las poblaciones. Las ciudades a fin de cuentas han recibido gentes de otros lugares a lo largo de los siglos (y también era donde vivían por ejemplo los judíos y musulmanes) y, por tanto, al tomarlas como referencia luego las personas que somos de lugares pequeños o que no estamos cerca del lugar de la referencia, pues nos terminan saliendo resultados inexplicables.

Incluso podríamos pensar que si todas las compañías utilizan muestras a las que se les hizo el análisis de ADN hace 10 años, entonces los resultados de ADN de hace 10 años (prehistoria de la genética de poblaciones) son los que utilizaban para referenciar a los que 10 años después nos hacemos los análisis de ADN, y obviamente utilizar el criterio de los resultados de hace 10 años para luego tratar de identificar a pruebas de ADN actuales, pues es obviamente un error.

Por tanto, ¿alguna idea de ver qué referencias muestrales utilizan las distintas compañías?

Según 23andme:

"Esta tabla muestra el número de individuos de referencia utilizados para definir cada población de ascendencia. La referencia de datos se componen de individuos a partir de conjuntos de datos disponibles públicamente, incluyendo el Proyecto Genoma Humano Diversidad , HapMap , y el proyecto 1.000 Genomas , así como las personas procedentes de colecciones de datos 23andMe privadas y un gran número de clientes de 23andMe que han dado su consentimiento para participar en la investigación . En total, hay 11,774 clientes con consentimiento investigativo y 2,663 no clientes en estos conjuntos de datos de referencia de la población."

Enlaces:

http://www.hagsc.org/hgdp/

https://www.genome.gov/11511175/

http://www.internationalgenome.org/

[Rocinante]

Ancient Eurasia Sttepe and Gedmatch kits

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rja6ZyjQrz3UK7_HTagkzczoOFjwcXOGdNOm9FC3Rik/edit?fbclid=IwAR16nOqZ6TaL3cEdWwcdltWrZsuWvdt922XY sZAbLNfOIASqQuMttqmjSnU#gid=0

Interesante enlace con haplogrupos antiguos de la Estepa.

Está el mío EV22 DA65 tengo una coincidencia, no está mal, después de tanto tiempo.

Pertenece a los Huna, que son una antigua tribu india, interesante la verdad.

[Gallop]

Pertenece a los Huna, que son una antigua tribu india, interesante la verdad.

Pues hijo mío ya veremos, quizá dentro de unos años se pueda certificar más claramente, no sólo del mío sino del resto, es un haplogrupo muy poco investigado.

[Rocinante]

Pues hijo mío ya veremos, quizá dentro de unos años se pueda certificar más claramente, no sólo del mío sino del resto, es un haplogrupo muy poco investigado.

Tu haplogrupo es primo del E-V13, que tiene bastante frecuencia en los balcanes. Por ahí te podrías imaginar por donde van los tiros, aunque si es cierto que es un subclado raro.

[gixajo]

Pertenece a los Huna, que son una antigua tribu india, interesante la verdad.

Los Huna están relacionados los hunos que invadieron Europa.


The Hunas are thought to have included the Xionite and/or Hephthalite, the Kidarites, the Alchon Huns (also known as the Alxon, Alakhana, Walxon etc.) and the Nezak Huns.




The 6th-century Roman historian Procopius of Caesarea (Book I. ch. 3), related the Huns of Europe with the Hephthalites or "White Huns" who subjugated the Sassanids and invaded northwestern India, stating that they were of the same stock, "in fact as well as in name", although he contrasted the Huns with the Hephthalites, in that the Hephthalites were sedentary, white-skinned, and possessed "not ugly" features

Curioso.

[gixajo]

Es una de las 36 razas reales, que se supone que eran clanes o grupos sociales elevados que gobernaban los antiguos estados de la India.

https://i.imgur.com/ycS4wV2.png

[Gallop]

He hecho el kit del antiguo más el mío


Kit Num: Z019511 E-V22
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 18.36
2 North_Sea 18.29
3 Eastern_Euro 15.47
4 West_Asian 10.41
5 Atlantic 8.55
6 Southeast_Asian 7.67
7 South_Asian 7.12
8 Baltic 5.01
9 Amerindian 4.29
10 Sub-Saharan 3.73
11 Oceanian 1.08


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tatar @ 16.749569
2 Afghan_Turkmen @ 19.781092
3 Uzbeki @ 21.795506
4 Afghan_Hazara @ 23.133137
5 Uygur @ 24.722776
6 Chuvash @ 25.551609
7 Hazara @ 25.781931
8 Nogay @ 26.561424
9 East_Finnish @ 28.091858
10 Mari @ 28.463013
11 Tadjik @ 28.751261
12 Shors @ 29.460045
13 Finnish @ 29.620975
14 Moldavian @ 29.961426
15 Afghan_Tadjik @ 30.061131
16 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 30.165829
17 Kargopol_Russian @ 30.642492
18 Serbian @ 30.830549
19 Hungarian @ 30.887791
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 31.314095

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hazara +50% North_Swedish @ 10.821220


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Hazara +25% Mari +25% West_Norwegian @ 7.075709


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
1 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Mongolian + West_Norwegian @ 6.570045
2 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Tuvinian + West_Norwegian @ 6.681843
3 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Orcadian + Tuvinian @ 6.710704
4 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Mongolian + Orcadian @ 6.742867
5 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Mongolian + West_Norwegian @ 6.792439
6 Afghan_Pashtun + Buryat + Chuvash + West_Norwegian @ 6.796032
7 MA-1 + Oroqen + Tabassaran + West_Norwegian @ 6.796608
8 Afghan_Hazara + Shors + Tatar + West_Norwegian @ 6.815202
9 Altaian + Chuvash + Orcadian + Tadjik @ 6.852148
10 Altaian + Chuvash + Tadjik + West_Norwegian @ 6.855803
11 Afghan_Tadjik + Altaian + Chuvash + Orcadian @ 6.871623
12 Afghan_Hazara + Orcadian + Shors + Tatar @ 6.872084
13 Afghan_Pashtun + Shors + Shors + West_Norwegian @ 6.892426
14 Afghan_Pashtun + Altaian + Chuvash + West_Norwegian @ 6.897211
15 Afghan_Pashtun + Altaian + Chuvash + Orcadian @ 6.932172
16 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Mongolian + Orcadian @ 6.943343
17 Afghan_Pashtun + Altaian + Mari + West_Norwegian @ 6.965119
18 Afghan_Tadjik + Altaian + Chuvash + West_Norwegian @ 6.972367
19 Mari + Mongolian + Tadjik + West_Norwegian @ 7.002150
20 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Mongolian + Norwegian @ 7.006588

Done.

Elapsed time 2.2312 seconds.

Mis resultados

North_Sea 20.35 Pct
Atlantic 31.76 Pct
Baltic 4.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.31 Pct
West_Med 23.82 Pct
West_Asian 6.42 Pct
East_Med 3.13 Pct
Red_Sea 3.37 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.99 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Northeast_African 2.55 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.41 Pct



Mine Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 31.76
2 West_Med 23.82
3 North_Sea 20.35
4 West_Asian 6.42
5 Baltic 4.75
6 Red_Sea 3.37
7 East_Med 3.13
8 Northeast_African 2.55
9 Eastern_Euro 2.31
10 Siberian 0.99
11 Sub-Saharan 0.41
12 Oceanian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cantabria 5.5
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.66
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.33
4 Southwest_French 7.5
5 Spanish_Aragon 7.53
6 Spanish_Cataluna 8.07
7 Spanish_Extremadura 8.21
8 Spanish_Andalucia 8.47
9 Spanish_Valencia 8.61
10 Portuguese 8.61
11 Spanish_Murcia 8.71
12 Spanish_Galicia 9.38
13 French 12.88
14 French_Basque 13.53
15 North_Italian 13.74
16 South_Dutch 16.79
17 Southwest_English 19.01
18 Tuscan 19.52
19 West_German 20.2
20 Southeast_English 20.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#
Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1
94.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.2% Ossetian @ 4.78
2
95% Spanish_Cantabria + 5% North_Ossetian @ 4.81
3
94.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.1% Balkar @ 4.87
4
95% Spanish_Cantabria + 5% Chechen @ 4.88
5
95.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.2% Abhkasian @ 4.9
6
95% Spanish_Cantabria + 5% Kabardin @ 4.91
7
95.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.6% Adygei @ 4.95
8
95.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.3% Georgian @ 4.96
9
95.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.9% Nogay @ 5.07
10
95.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.3% Tabassaran @ 5.07
11
95.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.4% Kumyk @ 5.1
12
95.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.1% Lezgin @ 5.1
13
98% Spanish_Cantabria + 2% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 5.19
14
96.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 3.7% Tadjik @ 5.24
15
97.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.1% Somali @ 5.25
16
98% Spanish_Cantabria + 2% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.27
17
96.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 3.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 5.27
18
97.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 2.8% Kalash @ 5.27
19
98.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.7% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 5.28
20
96.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 3.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.3


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%86%D1%8B_01.jpg


Salvando las distancias y los milenios pues veo parecido entre mi hermano y ese hombre Nogayo. Cómo lo véis?

[Rocinante]

Los Huna están relacionados los hunos que invadieron Europa.

Curioso.

Que curioso, si, la verdad. Lo que me pregunto como llego el E1b a esos lados, pues ahi casi no hay ese haplogrupo. Teniendo en cuenta donde estan situados los Hunas, por Afganistan, veamos que tanto de Pastoralistas de la Estepa tienen:

Target: Hazara_Afghanistan
Distance: 1.7419% / 0.01741874
40.8 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic
21.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
18.4 Ancient_Dravidian
10.2 Early_European_Farmer
8.0 Iran_Neolithic
0.8 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Early_Levantine_Farmer

No solo es que tienen mas de 1/5 de estepario, es que ademas tienen toques de EEF e IN, como no van a ser blanco...

[gixajo]

He hecho el kit del antiguo más el mío





Salvando las distancias y los milenios pues veo parecido entre mi hermano y ese hombre Nogayo. Cómo lo véis?

Solo en la forma del cráneo se parecen algo, no creo que los rasgos faciales sean muy parecidos, tu hermano no tiene cara oriental.

[Rocinante]

Edit.

[Defcon2]

Edit.

Seguro que pusiste lo guapo que eres genéticamente hablando, pues yo lo soy más.

[Rocinante]

Seguro que pusiste lo guapo que eres genéticamente hablando, pues yo lo soy más.

Jajajaja, en realidad le respondi a Gallop pero no lo quote, y dije nah voy a borrar esta mierda.

Lo que dije fue que su hermano no se parecia nada al hombre asiatico.

Y si, eres mas guapo que yo, tengo que admitirlo.

[Gallop]

Es clavado pero sin parecer oriental que ese hombre tampoco lo es del todo, es la estructura, muchas cosas, bueno quizá un artista sí lo haya visto.

He quitado la foto porque estáis viendo demasiada belleza estos días, cosas de la genética, a unos se les da y a otros se les quita, que le vamos a hacer.

[Rocinante]

Solo en la forma del cráneo se parecen algo, no creo que los rasgos faciales sean muy parecidos, tu hermano no tiene cara oriental.

Hey Mao, si quieres te hago un analisis de los YDNA SNPs para confirmarte si eres R1a, por si todavia tienes las dudas. Ya le hice a Noff y a Mixd el analisis. Ojo, por si estas interesado.

[Rocinante]

Es clavado pero sin parecer oriental que ese hombre tampoco lo es del todo, es la estructura, muchas cosas, bueno quizá un artista sí lo haya visto.

He quitado la foto porque estáis viendo demasiada belleza estos días, cosas de la genética, a unos se les da y a otros se les quita, que le vamos a hacer.

Jajajajaja, tu te pareces a Jose Coronado, y un parecido vamos... Clavao.

[gixajo]

Hey Mao, si quieres te hago un analisis de los YDNA SNPs para confirmarte si eres R1a, por si todavia tienes las dudas. Ya le hice a Noff y a Mixd el analisis. Ojo, por si estas interesado.

No te preocupes, ya saldré de dudas cuando me haga el test de 23andMe, ví que hay otros predictors a base de ir poniendo ciertos snps en una tablita, pero no me apetecía buscar si los tenía o no entre los de mi raw data. Igual salgo de dudas antes de hacerme ese test si mi padre se hace el de MH y subo los raw data al predictor de Morley.

Estoy empezando una guerrita con franceses por un lado y rusos por el otro. Me encanta meterme en berenjenales.

[Rocinante]

No te preocupes, ya saldré de dudas cuando me haga el test de 23andMe, ví que hay otros predictors a base de ir poniendo ciertos snps en una tablita, pero no me apetecía buscar si los tenía o no entre los de mi raw data. Igual salgo de dudas antes de hacerme ese test si mi padre se hace el de MH y subo los raw data al predictor de Morley.

Estoy empezando una guerrita con franceses por un lado y rusos por el otro. Me encanta meterme en berenjenales.

Vale vale, te lo ofrezco porque le tengo el truquillo, pero vale, si quieres me lo comunicas y yo te hago el favor.

Yo ayer exploté y saque lo peor de mí con un perro hijo de puta que ya lleva semanas tocándome los cojones, y esto sucedió ayer en un thread de la genética canaria.

Exploté feo y tuve que pedir perdón a mas de uno.

[gixajo]

Vale vale, te lo ofrezco porque le tengo el truquillo, pero vale, si quieres me lo comunicas y yo te hago el favor.

Yo ayer exploté y saque lo peor de mí con un perro hijo de puta que ya lleva semanas tocándome los cojones, y esto sucedió ayer en un thread de la genética canaria.

Exploté feo y tuve que pedir perdón a mas de uno.

Yo no he llegado a explotar, hasta el momento todos guardamos las formas, está siendo una discusión bastante contenida en las formas, aunque bajo la superficie de lo visible creo que subyace lo que siempre observo en muchas actitudes en este foro.

Me extrañó ver continuamente movimiento en el thread ese de canarias, pero como tampoco era un título que me llamara mucho la atención no lo abría para ver que pasaba, ahora me paso a cotillear, me imagino por donde irían los tiros.

[gixajo]

Vale vale, te lo ofrezco porque le tengo el truquillo, pero vale, si quieres me lo comunicas y yo te hago el favor.

Yo ayer exploté y saque lo peor de mí con un perro hijo de puta que ya lleva semanas tocándome los cojones, y esto sucedió ayer en un thread de la genética canaria.

Exploté feo y tuve que pedir perdón a mas de uno.

Qué necesitarías exactamente para lo del haplogrupo? Si no es el raw data completo igual me interesa o me explicas el truco si quieres y lo hago yo...:rolleyes:

[Defcon2]

No te preocupes, ya saldré de dudas cuando me haga el test de 23andMe, ví que hay otros predictors a base de ir poniendo ciertos snps en una tablita, pero no me apetecía buscar si los tenía o no entre los de mi raw data. Igual salgo de dudas antes de hacerme ese test si mi padre se hace el de MH y subo los raw data al predictor de Morley.

Estoy empezando una guerrita con franceses por un lado y rusos por el otro. Me encanta meterme en berenjenales.

Guerrita con franceses del frente occidental y rusos del frente oriental, eres un nazi.

[Defcon2]

Pues yo estoy en el hilo ese de Southestern pollas, he sacado una prueba irrefutable sobre la occidentalidad de España y he negado que exista el sur de Europa como raza, a ver por donde me salen.

[mitalit]

No te preocupes, ya saldré de dudas cuando me haga el test de 23andMe, ví que hay otros predictors a base de ir poniendo ciertos snps en una tablita, pero no me apetecía buscar si los tenía o no entre los de mi raw data. Igual salgo de dudas antes de hacerme ese test si mi padre se hace el de MH y subo los raw data al predictor de Morley.

Estoy empezando una guerrita con franceses por un lado y rusos por el otro. Me encanta meterme en berenjenales.

No le puedes pedir la raw data a tu tio para ver su haplogrupo?

[Rocinante]

Qué necesitarías exactamente para lo del haplogrupo? Si no es el raw data completo igual me interesa o me explicas el truco si quieres y lo hago yo...:rolleyes:

Solo necesito que piques tu excel desde donde pone el cromosoma Y, mas nada. Ahora, si desconfias de este usuario solo por un segundo, mejor no. Lo del truquillo me es mas facil hacerlo yo (ademas que me entretiene entre tanto confinamiento) que explicartelo. Evidentemente que te enviaria el excel con los resultados.

[gixajo]

Solo necesito que piques tu excel desde donde pone el cromosoma Y, mas nada. Ahora, si desconfias de este usuario solo por un segundo, mejor no. Lo del truquillo me es mas facil hacerlo yo (ademas que me entretiene entre tanto confinamiento) que explicartelo. Evidentemente que te enviaria el excel con los resultados.

No veo cromosoma Y en mis datos de myheritage...

[Gota_type_]

Según 23andme:

"Esta tabla muestra el número de individuos de referencia utilizados para definir cada población de ascendencia. La referencia de datos se componen de individuos a partir de conjuntos de datos disponibles públicamente, incluyendo el Proyecto Genoma Humano Diversidad , HapMap , y el proyecto 1.000 Genomas , así como las personas procedentes de colecciones de datos 23andMe privadas y un gran número de clientes de 23andMe que han dado su consentimiento para participar en la investigación . En total, hay 11,774 clientes con consentimiento investigativo y 2,663 no clientes en estos conjuntos de datos de referencia de la población."

Enlaces:

http://www.hagsc.org/hgdp/

https://www.genome.gov/11511175/

http://www.internationalgenome.org/

Investigaré los componentes que tomaron de España para esos conjuntos de datos, pero me suena que son antiguos, que son de hospitales, y que si los analizaron hace décadas (con la tecnología de entonces) los resultados serán aberrantes y, por tanto, las interpretaciones actuales lo son más. Y grave es que 23andme incluya miles de individuos que facilitan sus datos para hacer su base de datos de Ancestry. No sé exactamente el criterio que utilizaran pero he visto muchos norteamericanos (chicanos) y sudamericanos (mestizos) que ponen que tienen 1 abuelo o 2 de España, y también he visto gente nacida en España (hijos de inmigrantes seguramente) y que sus padres serán sudamericanos, pero claro pone "Spain" o ponen que sus abuelos nacieron en España "porque lo dijo alguien en su familia". Si toman así las referencias para España, normal que los resultados sean raros.

Si realmente analizan el Ancestry y si ven que tienen un 97-98% de sangre Europea y además dicen que son de Spain, entonces sí sería verosímil. El problema de España es que hubo cientos de miles de españoles que dejaron sus genes hace 400 años en 50 países del mundo, y q si la identificación del origen es personal, sin otro criterio, al final el resultado es ridículo.

Y con las muestras de hospitales lo mismo. Serán de grandes ciudades y las ciudades son las más "contaminadas" generalmente pues han recibido gentes de todas las partes de España o eran la base de la sociedad judía, musulmana o morisca (en el caso de la mitad sur). Si hicieran masivamente pruebas en pueblos concretos (3-5 pueblos medios o pequeños por cada provincia, el resultado sería mucho más coherente con lo que somos los españoles y lo que eran nuestros antepasados hace siglos.

[Defcon2]

No veo cromosoma Y en mis datos de myheritage...

Dale a buscar en el bloc de notas la letra Y, los míos relacionados con ese cromosoma se encuentran al final junto con los de mitocondrial.

También puedes darme tu RAW data pero te aseguro que no haré nada malo con eso, solo traficaré con el archivo revendiendolo en el mercado negro de delincuentes con alta peligrosidad demostrada en infringir los derechos de privacidad ajenos.

[Rocinante]

No veo cromosoma Y en mis datos de myheritage...

Como que no, tienes como 3200. En tu raw data, en el excel, al finaaaaaal deberia poner Y en la columna de cromosomas.

[Rocinante]

Dale a buscar en el bloc de notas la letra Y, los míos relacionados con ese cromosoma se encuentran al final junto con los de mitocondrial.

También puedes darme tu RAW data pero te aseguro que no haré nada malo con eso, solo traficaré con el archivo revendiendolo en el mercado negro de delincuentes con alta peligrosidad demostrada en infringir los derechos de privacidad ajenos.

Hombre... Por que tienes que ser tan copion? Eso era justo lo que iba a hacer!

[gixajo]

Dale a buscar en el bloc de notas la letra Y, los míos relacionados con ese cromosoma se encuentran al final junto con los de mitocondrial.

También puedes darme tu RAW data pero te aseguro que no haré nada malo con eso, solo traficaré con el archivo revendiendolo en el mercado negro de delincuentes con alta peligrosidad demostrada en infringir los derechos de privacidad ajenos.

En caso de traficar con mi archivo, podemos llegar a un acuerdo si acordamos un reparto justo de los beneficios. De esa manera podré comprar más tests y volver a vender mis datos.

Eso busco pero no vienen los pares bases nitrogenadas asociados solo un número. vendrá como XY? pasa del cromosoma 22 al XY, y luego al X. Los del XY y las pocas que vienen con Y solo no tienen asociado ningún par de base nitrogenada.

Ejemplo:


RSID,CHROMOSOME,POSITION,RESULT
2010-08-Y-1221,0,0,--


Como XY:


rs6644972,XY,178624,--


y por ejemplo uno del cromosoma 22:


rs6010063,22,51156933,AA

[Defcon2]

En caso de traficar con mi archivo, podemos llegar a un acuerdo si acordamos un reparto justo de los beneficios. De esa manera podré comprar más tests y volver a vender mis datos.

Eso busco pero no vienen los pares bases nitrogenadas asociados solo un número. vendrá como XY? pasa del cromosoma 22 al XY, y luego al X. Los del XY y las pocas que vienen con Y solo no tienen asociado ningún par de base nitrogenada.

Ejemplo:



Como XY:



y por ejemplo uno del cromosoma 22:

Pues claro, solo hace falta buena mano negociadora para aumentar los beneficios, hasta me dan ganas de vender los míos.

En mi archivo aparecen así los relacionados con Y, que te ayude Celtibero puesto que no será igual.


rs753638201 Y 24420336 A
i705974 Y 24426760 --
rs374024296 Y 24435821 A

[Defcon2]

Investigaré los componentes que tomaron de España para esos conjuntos de datos, pero me suena que son antiguos, que son de hospitales, y que si los analizaron hace décadas (con la tecnología de entonces) los resultados serán aberrantes y, por tanto, las interpretaciones actuales lo son más. Y grave es que 23andme incluya miles de individuos que facilitan sus datos para hacer su base de datos de Ancestry. No sé exactamente el criterio que utilizaran pero he visto muchos norteamericanos (chicanos) y sudamericanos (mestizos) que ponen que tienen 1 abuelo o 2 de España, y también he visto gente nacida en España (hijos de inmigrantes seguramente) y que sus padres serán sudamericanos, pero claro pone "Spain" o ponen que sus abuelos nacieron en España "porque lo dijo alguien en su familia". Si toman así las referencias para España, normal que los resultados sean raros.

Si realmente analizan el Ancestry y si ven que tienen un 97-98% de sangre Europea y además dicen que son de Spain, entonces sí sería verosímil. El problema de España es que hubo cientos de miles de españoles que dejaron sus genes hace 400 años en 50 países del mundo, y q si la identificación del origen es personal, sin otro criterio, al final el resultado es ridículo.

Y con las muestras de hospitales lo mismo. Serán de grandes ciudades y las ciudades son las más "contaminadas" generalmente pues han recibido gentes de todas las partes de España o eran la base de la sociedad judía, musulmana o morisca (en el caso de la mitad sur). Si hicieran masivamente pruebas en pueblos concretos (3-5 pueblos medios o pequeños por cada provincia, el resultado sería mucho más coherente con lo que somos los españoles y lo que eran nuestros antepasados hace siglos.

Cierto es, pero las ciudades no son más que gente de pueblo amontonada en un mismo lugar (duras palabras). He indagado en mis parientes por parte de abuelo y son casi todos de pueblo.

[Rocinante]

En caso de traficar con mi archivo, podemos llegar a un acuerdo si acordamos un reparto justo de los beneficios. De esa manera podré comprar más tests y volver a vender mis datos.

Eso busco pero no vienen los pares bases nitrogenadas asociados solo un número. vendrá como XY? pasa del cromosoma 22 al XY, y luego al X. Los del XY y las pocas que vienen con Y solo no tienen asociado ningún par de base nitrogenada.

Ejemplo:



Como XY:



y por ejemplo uno del cromosoma 22:

rs9786283 Y 18907236 CC

Tienen que venir asi.

[gixajo]

rs9786283 Y 18907236 CC

Tienen que venir asi.

Así no tengo ninguno que este marcado como que sea del cromosoma Y, salvo cosa de una docena sin el par de bases final.

intentaré abrir el archivo con excel en vez de con el Apache, a ver si es que ha cambiado alguna configuración y se puede leer mejor.

[Rocinante]

Así no tengo ninguno que este marcado como que sea del cromosoma Y, salvo cosa de una docena sin el par de bases final.

intentaré abrir el archivo con excel en vez de con el Apache, a ver si es que ha cambiado alguna configuración y se puede leer mejor.

Es que es con el excel que lo tienes que abrir, mira deberia decir esto:

RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT

Esas seria la fila principal

rs13304968 Y 18663485 AA

Y eso lo que la conforme, fijate que en CHROMOSOME dice Y. Ojo, yo tengo una raw data vieja, capaz MH lo cambio y lo puso diferente, pero deberia de ser practicamente lo mismo o muy parecido.

Otra cosa, si quieres no te das dolores de cabeza y lo hago yo, tampoco te creas que voy a quedarme con tu raw data, las de esta gente que me lo mandaron yo apenas les picaba los chromosomas Y, borraba el resto, no me interesa tenerlos tampoco, y los correos tambien los borro. Ojo esto por si estas interesado pero no hayas como hacerlo.

[gixajo]

Es que es con el excel que lo tienes que abrir, mira deberia decir esto:

RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT

Esas seria la fila principal

rs13304968 Y 18663485 AA

Y eso lo que la conforme, fijate que en CHROMOSOME dice Y. Ojo, yo tengo una raw data vieja, capaz MH lo cambio y lo puso diferente, pero deberia de ser practicamente lo mismo o muy parecido.

Otra cosa, si quieres no te das dolores de cabeza y lo hago yo, tampoco te creas que voy a quedarme con tu raw data, las de esta gente que me lo mandaron yo apenas les picaba los chromosomas Y, borraba el resto, no me interesa tenerlos tampoco, y los correos tambien los borro. Ojo esto por si estas interesado pero no hayas como hacerlo.

Los acabo de encontrar, te los paso por mensaje privado.:picard1:

Estoy en varios sitios a la vez y no busqué del todo bien, perdona. Supongo que serán los que te pase.

[Rocinante]

Los acabo de encontrar, te los paso por mensaje privado.:picard1:

Estoy en varios sitios a la vez y no busqué del todo bien, perdona. Supongo que serán los que te pase.

Escribeme por PM pero no me vayas a pasar una barbaridad escrita, me mandas por correo en formato excel xD

[gixajo]

Escribeme por PM pero no me vayas a pasar una barbaridad escrita, me mandas por correo en formato excel xD

No me deja mandar cosas tan gordas por privado. No veo la manera de adjuntar un archivo. Si quieres pásame una dirección de correo normal por Pm y te lo mando.

[Rocinante]

No me deja mandar cosas tan gordas por privado. No veo la manera de adjuntar un archivo. Si quieres pásame una dirección de correo normal por Pm y te lo mando.

Ok, ya tengo a mano los SNP Y de gixa, a ver que nos sale, si es un R1b vulgar como la mayoria, un moro E1b o un visigodo R1a.

Primero comenzare testeandolo con R1b, luego con E1b, para descartar.

Voy avisando.

[Rocinante]

No me deja mandar cosas tan gordas por privado. No veo la manera de adjuntar un archivo. Si quieres pásame una dirección de correo normal por Pm y te lo mando.

Ok, ya tengo a mano los SNP Y de gixa, a ver que nos sale, si es un R1b vulgar como la mayoria, un moro E1b o un visigodo R1a.

Primero comenzare testeandolo con R1b, luego con E1b, para descartar.

Voy avisando.

[gixajo]

Ok, ya tengo a mano los SNP Y de gixa, a ver que nos sale, si es un R1b vulgar como la mayoria, un moro E1b o un visigodo R1a.

Primero comenzare testeandolo con R1b, luego con E1b, para descartar.

Voy avisando.

Perdona, si fuera E1b no sería moro, sería Iberomaurisiense!!!

;)

[Defcon2]

Ok, ya tengo a mano los SNP Y de gixa, a ver que nos sale, si es un R1b vulgar como la mayoria, un moro E1b o un visigodo R1a.

Primero comenzare testeandolo con R1b, luego con E1b, para descartar.

Voy avisando.

También podrías testearlo con haplogrupos chinos, para ir descartando. Su avatar sugiere ascendencia algo asiática.

[Rocinante]

Perdona, si fuera E1b no sería moro, sería Iberomaurisiense!!!

;)

Pues... Lamento decirte que el padre, de tu padre, de tu padre, de tu padre, no era uno de esos iberomaurisienses guays.

Negativo en E, E1, R1b.

Positivo en R, R1, R1a, R1a1, R1a1a, R1a1a1

Tu haplogrupo, hasta el subclado que pude o he podido ver, es R1a-M417, al parecer no has sido testeado en ninguna de sus 2 posibles variantes, que es una la tiene samario (el que es mas comun en Asia) y el que es comun en Europa Oriental y Escandinavia.

Pero 100000% seguro, que eres R1a-M417, que por cierto, deberias ponerlo asi mismo como te lo estoy diciendo en tu Y-DNA.

Te mandare el documento, es practicamente lo mismo que me mandaste pero esta marcado los cromosomas positivos y negativos.

[gixajo]

Pues... Lamento decirte que el padre, de tu padre, de tu padre, de tu padre, no era uno de esos iberomaurisienses guays.

Negativo en E, E1, R1b.

Positivo en R, R1, R1a, R1a1, R1a1a, R1a1a1

Tu haplogrupo, hasta el subclado que pude o he podido ver, es R1a-M417, al parecer no has sido testeado en ninguna de sus 2 posibles variantes, que es una la tiene samario (el que es mas comun en Asia) y el que es comun en Europa Oriental y Escandinavia.

Pero 100000% seguro, que eres R1a-M417, que por cierto, deberias ponerlo asi mismo como te lo estoy diciendo en tu Y-DNA.

Te mandare el documento, es practicamente lo mismo que me mandaste pero esta marcado los cromosomas positivos y negativos.

Pues muchas gracias, no hace falta que me envíes nada, me fío de tí.

[Rocinante]

Pues muchas gracias, no hace falta que me envíes nada, me fío de tí.

De nada tio, igual te lo mande, por si te mata la curiosidad, o sea no hay fallo alguno.

Como llego ese R1a hasta Andalucia, que curioso no?

[gixajo]

También podrías testearlo con haplogrupos chinos, para ir descartando. Su avatar sugiere ascendencia algo asiática.

El día que me hice esa foto, había pasado una mala noche...

[Rocinante]

Quizás él es descendiente de un Eslavo que se unió a los Visigodos o quizás fue un Eslavo que esclavizaron y comercializaron los Omeyas en la península Ibérica..

Podria ser... Es una teoria interesante. En internet lo que se habla es que los godos eran I1 y R1b, con los subclados respectivos claro, supongo que el DF19 de AlfonsoVIII es visigodo o suevo, pero de R1a ni puta idea, no dice nada, por lo tanto podria ser tambien como dices, eslavo como tal.

[Rocinante]

Diversification of R1a1a1 (M417) and ancient migrations

"According to Underhill (2014), the downstream R1a-M417 subclade diversified into Z282 and Z93 circa 5,800 years ago. Even though R1a occurs as the most frequent Y-chromosome haplogroup among populations speaking a wide variety of languages such as Slavic, Indo-Iranian, Dravidian, Turkic and Finno-Ugric, the question of the origins of R1a1a is relevant to the ongoing debate concerning the urheimat of the Proto-Indo-European people, and may also be relevant to the origins of the Indus Valley Civilisation. R1a shows a strong correlation with Indo-European languages of Southern and Western Asia and Central and Eastern Europe, being most prevalent in Eastern Europe, West Asia, South Asia and Central Asia. In Europe, Z282 is prevalent particularly while in Asia Z93 dominates. The connection between Y-DNA R-M17 and the spread of Indo-European languages was first noted by T. Zerjal and colleagues in 1999."

R1a = Corded Ware related
R1b = Bell Beaker related

Asi lo diferencio yo, a pesar que ambos tienen el mismo origen en la estepa.

[gixajo]

Con algo tan poco específico como como M 417, no se puede saber gran cosa.Pero sí es cierto que suelo dar más alto y con más frecuencia resultados de zonas europeas relacionados con r1a que asiáticos. Pero vete a saber...

Yo creo que es más reciente que lo que comentáis, de alrededor del finales del siglo XVIII. Al menos es lo primero que pensé, lo comenté mil veces, las Nuevas Poblaciones de Andalucía y Sierra Morena, los colonos centroeuropeos de Pablo de Olavide y Johann K***** Thürriegel.Había polacos, alemanes de Sajonia, Sorbios, Checos y Húngaros, aparte de Holandeses o Belgas, cualquiera de ellos podría haber traído el r1a.

Otra posible explicación sería que tuviera antepasados pasiegos.

O un soldado polaco de las tropas de Napoleón, cerca de donde es mi familia paterna tuvo lugar la batalla de Bailén.

Vete a saber, igual no es ninguna de estas posibilidades.

[mitalit]

Yo ya estoy bastante aburrido con esto del confinamiento, seria divertido empezar una guerra.

[Rocinante]

Nueva calculadorita, pero no pienso hacer thread de ella, es algo sencilla.

[Rocinante]

Southeastern_European:Greek_Peloponnese,0.118376,0 .1438667,0.0037713,-0.0325153,0.0159003,-0.010412,0.001645,-0.000923,-0.000409,0.018102,0.000108,0.0039467,-0.0058967,0.0037157,-0.016377,0.0023863,0.0134297,0.0003377,0.009176,-0.0007083,-0.0092753,0.003998,0.0013967,-0.0001203,-0.0033927
Baltic:Estonian,0.1329454,0.1141455,0.087756,0.083 3017,0.0427771,0.0297575,0.0113745,0.0144457,0.000 4091,-0.028447,6.5e-05,-0.0123489,0.0194597,0.0213591,-0.0066639,0.0017104,0.0002216,-0.0024832,0.0013451,0.0022137,0.001385,-0.0018672,0.0042644,0.0007471,0.0030535
Scandinavian:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329 ,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682, 0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0. 0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,0.1050967,0.1499597,0. 033061,-0.0011843,0.0409303,-0.0027887,-0.003995,-0.0010003,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993,0.0050453,-0.0106047,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026077,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064107,0.000417,0.0021213,-0.00474,-0.0014787,-0.0027713,0.0014373
Yoruban:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Gambian:Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya,-0.5978967,0.063688,0.0171859,0.007106,-1e-07,0.0058569,-0.0145036,0.0188894,0.0045287,-0.0215819,-0.0050573,0.015993,-0.0328754,0.0011991,-0.0304013,0.0267264,-0.0180303,-0.0024431,-0.009948,0.0047167,0.0016934,0.0001946,0.0034157,0 .0039763,0.0006671
Oceanian:Australian,-0.0421145,-0.235095,-0.213639,0.234499,0.1384875,-0.3402465,-0.0031725,0.0074995,-0.0082835,0.00082,-0.006171,0.001199,0.0008175,-0.002684,-0.0035285,-0.000133,0.0100395,0.002027,-0.0023885,0.0060655,0.003556,-0.000371,-0.0033895,0.0012655,-0.0045505
Arabian:Saudi,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
Central_Asian:Tajik,0.0928895,0.013246,-0.0298254,0.0209107,-0.0438208,0.0167213,0.0048738,-0.000642,-0.0280643,-0.0221773,-0.0075193,0.000417,-0.0007433,-0.0081197,0.0114714,0.0104573,-0.0048413,-8.27e-05,0.0011095,-0.0082376,-0.0067489,-0.0024892,0.0013665,0.0017708,0.003405
Eastern_European:Russian_Orel,0.1312217,0.1186719, 0.0717069,0.0624774,0.0331489,0.0222316,0.0085273, 0.0119994,-0.0049086,-0.0253049,-0.0012991,-0.0071936,0.0147176,0.0233369,-0.0120401,-0.0008146,0.0023841,-0.0019726,0.0030347,0.001483,-0.0045277,-0.0055643,0.0058277,-0.0053536,-0.001112
San:Khomani_San,-0.6220435,0.060424,0.02093,0.030039,-0.0004615,0.000837,0.236773,-0.1823,0.0185095,0.0067425,0.00203,-0.053952,-0.0211845,0.005505,0.018797,-0.0212805,0.029662,0.2623085,-0.0877375,0.001751,-0.0331915,-0.002844,0.0038205,-0.0050005,0.0016765
Levantine:Lebanese_Druze,0.0841153,0.1404478,-0.0496667,-0.070091,-0.0156642,-0.0251838,-0.0024205,-0.0053304,-0.0023112,0.0075992,0.0051477,-0.0030274,0.009083,0.0020232,-0.0068675,0.0061655,-0.0020861,0.0008361,0.0024761,-0.000913,-0.0013225,0.0019414,0.0002465,0.0025182,-0.0005866
Italian:Italian_Lazio,0.1146768,0.1525832,0.006694 ,-0.0350455,0.0213115,-0.0115738,0.0024675,0.000519,0.0068512,0.0234627,0 .001299,0.0028475,-0.007656,-0.0070875,-0.0068538,0.0041432,-0.000228,-0.0005068,0.0018225,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.0033695,-0.0003697,-0.0003613,-0.000479
Northwestern_European:Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312 ,0.0622654,0.0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502, 0.0051756,0.0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246, 0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698
Caucasian:Karachay,0.106018,0.0823546,-0.0264343,-0.0168421,-0.0333394,-0.0014742,0.0076768,-0.0007582,-0.0480826,-0.0241159,-0.0048716,0.0067155,-0.016919,0.0010944,0.0044723,-0.0170724,0.0061218,-0.0039755,-0.0076437,0.0146201,0.0042188,0.001578,5.29e-05,-0.0065755,-0.0020242
Western_European:French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715 ,0.0503172,0.0224324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199 ,0.0048748,0.0068516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
Bantu:Bantu_S.W.,-0.6222873,0.0658643,0.018425,0.0160116,0.0006156,0 .0075699,0.0014437,0.0089336,-0.0274354,0.0172863,0.0028534,-0.0046459,-0.0030369,0.001966,-0.0051573,0.004887,-0.0033901,0.0217903,-0.0106846,0.0037876,-0.0011764,0.0004591,0.0014964,0.0002411,-0.0005471
Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen,-0.0391015,0.1347667,-0.0189668,-0.0779,0.0188088,-0.0355667,-0.0216624,0.005864,0.0576878,0.0205605,0.0056455,-0.0122362,0.0263216,-0.009407,0.0124783,-0.0050072,-0.0056909,-0.0131682,-0.0303375,0.0115203,-0.0085143,-0.0241851,0.0149999,-4.95e-05,0.0005494
Central_European:Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0 553559,0.0364298,0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0 075326,0.0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
North_American:Amerindian_North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805
South_American:Bolivian_Pando,0.0534967,-0.2626833,0.1107477,0.0837647,-0.0965307,-0.013294,-0.2671287,-0.3237557,-0.011658,-0.007411,-0.0049797,-0.0005493,-0.000545,0.0232123,-0.007465,-0.0001327,-4.37e-05,0.0029563,4.2e-05,0.0016673,-0.001414,0.0042453,-0.0006983,0.001245,-0.001357
Central_American:Mayan,0.056749,-0.2949387,0.1107659,0.0902554,-0.1048547,-0.0156974,-0.2758356,-0.3286347,-0.0140829,-0.0160369,-0.0017167,-0.0010061,0.001083,0.0199947,-0.008783,0.0037504,0.0079163,-0.0009773,-0.0013466,-0.0019474,-0.0026024,0.0056176,0.0010037,3.44e-05,0.0003594
South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.064737,-0.0336392,-0.1301538,0.1126068,-0.0731289,0.0650512,0.0003525,0.0089997,0.0287868, 0.0123239,-0.0062315,0.0016672,-0.0046456,-0.0012385,0.008805,-0.0048561,-0.0096485,0.0011716,-0.0023569,-0.010974,-0.00078,0.0001081,0.0026806,0.0032082,-0.0081579
Eastern_Asian:Japanese,0.0229543,-0.445479,0.0130733,-0.059109,0.0362118,0.0093428,0.003525,0.0005768,-0.0065105,0.0106607,-0.0740492,-0.0074685,0.011546,-0.0070647,-0.0110612,-0.004464,0.0003042,0.0035895,0.001676,-0.0092547,0.0270355,-0.01659,0.0049093,0.003374,-0.0419723
Northeastern_Asian:Koryak,0.0434804,-0.3881356,0.1195474,0.0124678,-0.1187914,-0.0543836,-0.0293296,-0.0282912,0.0087944,-0.0018954,0.0401424,-0.0001498,-0.0014568,-0.0191846,-0.0286642,-0.0182442,-0.0027644,0.0166468,0.038338,0.0220604,0.0364858,-0.0595264,0.009515,0.0217138,0.0328354
Han:Han_Sichuan,0.0198376,-0.4481384,-0.0072191,-0.0669994,0.0771573,0.0334269,0.0019807,-0.0053403,-0.0132647,0.0003644,-0.0533564,-0.0100197,0.0100026,-0.0074121,-0.0077361,-0.0008144,0.0011921,-0.0007057,-0.003717,-0.0058243,0.0112301,0.0063063,0.0116909,0.0002239, 0.0024806

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.2716% / 0.02271648
52.4 Iberian
29.2 Southeastern_European
9.6 Scandinavian
6.4 Northwestern_African
2.4 Baltic

Espero que les guste.

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5360% / 0.02536011
66.6 Iberian
24.0 Northwestern_European
8.2 Southeastern_European
0.8 Han
0.4 Northeastern_Asian

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5952% / 0.02595160 | ADC: 0.25x
67.8 Iberian
20.4 Western_European
9.2 Northwestern_European
1.6 Southeastern_European
0.6 Han
0.2 Caucasian
0.2 Northeastern_Asian

[gixajo]

Lo más cercano de tus teorías podrían ser por polacos y sorbios, pero del resto suele tener R1b.. Podrían ser por polacos, por los visigodos o por eslavos esclavizados de Al-Ándalus.. No sabemos, pero si tu autosomal es promedio ibérico (que no lo sé) pues probablemente sería por esos dos últimos, osea por visigodos o por eslavos esclavizados por los Omeyas y al venir aquí pues.. tuvieron descendencia de cualquier forma o consiguiendo la libertad y haciendo su vida aquí o vete tú a saber

En realidad la probabilidad es bastante alta en cuanto te vas alejando de aquí:


Europa
Europa Oriental: Es mayoritario en Europa del Este, especialmente entre los eslavos del norte, pues la frecuencia más alta está entre los sorbios (extremo este de Alemania) con un 63.4 % (Behar et al.2003), siendo también predominante en polacos con 56 % (Semino et al.2000), ucranianos 54 % (Semino et al.2000), rusos étnicos 50 %, (Pericic et al.2005, Balanovsky et al.2008) particularmente en Bélgorod 59 %, Tver 58 % y Kursk 52 %.9​ También es frecuente en bielorrusos en un 51 %, (Pericic et al.2005, Behar et al.2003) en Hungría con 20 al 60 %, Letonia 41 %, Udmurtia 37 %, Pomor 36 %, Macedonia del Norte 35 %, Lituania 34 %, Croacia 29 %, checo/eslovacos 27 % y menores frecuencias en los Balcanes. En el Cáucaso la mayor frecuencia está en Abjasia con 33 %.
Europa Occidental: Se encuentra en Noruega con 25 %, Islandia 24 %, Suecia 18 %, Dinamarca 17 % y menores frecuencias en Gran Bretaña, Alemania y resto de Europa. La presencia más alta en la península ibérica se encuentra entre los pasiegos, comunidad étnica bastante aislada donde alcanza un 65 %, 47 % R-M173 y 18 % R-SRY10831; esto podría ser explicado como resultado de las oleadas de tribus del norte que invadieron desde tiempos prehistóricos la península ibérica a través de los Pirineos.10​

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.3969% / 0.02396852
79.2 Iberian
10.6 Western_European
10.2 Northwestern_European

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.6108% / 0.02610811 | ADC: 1x
93.4 Iberian
6.6 Western_European

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4282% / 0.02428168 | ADC: 0.5x
79.6 Iberian
20.4 Western_European

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4020% / 0.02401996 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Iberian
17.0 Western_European
5.0 Northwestern_European

[Rocinante]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.3969% / 0.02396852
79.2 Iberian
10.6 Western_European
10.2 Northwestern_European

100% europeo occidental, despues que no te digan nada sobre el Occidente.


Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5360% / 0.02536011
66.6 Iberian
24.0 Northwestern_European
8.2 Southeastern_European
0.8 Han
0.4 Northeastern_Asian

Hola Irish :) ahi te saco tu napolitano, y por supuesto, tu raza celtica superor.

[gixajo]

100% europeo occidental, despues que no te digan nada sobre el Occidente.



Hola Irish :) ahi te saco tu napolitano, y por supuesto, tu raza celtica superor.

Acabo de postear mi MENA de MDLP World y era cosa del 13%, así que no se yo...:rolleyes:

[Rocinante]

Acabo de postear mi MENA de MDLP World y era cosa del 13%, así que no se yo...:rolleyes:

Lo que vale es el G25, sobretodo mis modelos, que son los vuestros también.

[Defcon2]

Acabo de postear mi MENA de MDLP World y era cosa del 13%, así que no se yo...:rolleyes:

En esa yo tengo 12.95, es raro que tengas casi lo mismo que yo.

Carece de referencia norteafricana, por eso obtengo un 3.65 en negro.

[gixajo]

En esa yo tengo 12.95, es raro que tengas casi lo mismo que yo.

Carece de referencia norteafricana, por eso obtengo un 3.65 en negro.

Todo depende de como lo lean, cambia mucho en cada calculador de gedmatch, en ningun otro me ha dado tan alto.

[mitalit]

Yo tengo 8.88 pero luego tengo Caucaus_Parsia 10.91 y Sub_Saharian 1.97 Pct. Depende de la calculadora lo pone en un sitio u otro, estoy seguro de que gixajo tiene bastante menos en esos puntos.

[gixajo]

En esa yo tengo 12.95, es raro que tengas casi lo mismo que yo.

Carece de referencia norteafricana, por eso obtengo un 3.65 en negro.

Todo depende de como lo lean, cambia mucho en cada calculador de gedmatch, en ningun otro me ha dado tan alto.

[gixajo]

Yo tengo 8.88 pero luego tengo Caucaus_Parsia 10.91 y Sub_Saharian 1.97 Pct. Depende de la calculadora lo pone en un sitio u otro, estoy seguro de que gixajo tiene bastante menos en esos puntos.

No me he fijado el SSA y el otro, en SSA no suelo dar nada normalmente.

[gixajo]

5.32 Caucaus_Parsia
1.13 SSA
y Paleo_African 0.27

por abrir la boca...

[PT Tagus]

on Monte3 Runner


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"fit": 2.06,

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"Northwestern_European": 5.83,
"Western_European": 4.17,
"Northeastern_African": 2.5,
"Arabian": 1.67,
"Northwestern_African": 1.67,
"San": 0.83,
"Scandinavian": 0.83,
"Yoruban": 0.83



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"Western_European:French_Alsace: 6.355075",
"Southeastern_European:Greek_Peloponnese: 7.527199",
"Central_European:Hungarian: 8.658728",
"Northwestern_European:Scottish: 9.060257",
"Scandinavian:Swedish: 10.489314",
"Levantine:Lebanese_Druze: 12.822130",
"Eastern_European:Russian_Orel: 12.888299",
"Caucasian:Karachay: 14.958009",
"Baltic:Estonian: 14.992451",
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"Central_Asian:Tajik: 19.059721",
"Arabian:Saudi: 19.707036",
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"North_American:Amerindian_North: 60.081155",
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"Central_American:Mayan: 64.865693",
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"Bantu:Bantu_S.W.: 71.806454",
"Yoruban:Yoruba: 73.040790",
"San:Khomani_San: 83.095945"
]

[Rocinante]

on Monte3 Runner


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"fit": 2.06,

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"Northwestern_European": 5.83,
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"Yoruban": 0.83



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"Central_European:Hungarian: 8.658728",
"Northwestern_European:Scottish: 9.060257",
"Scandinavian:Swedish: 10.489314",
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"Eastern_European:Russian_Orel: 12.888299",
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"Baltic:Estonian: 14.992451",
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"Central_Asian:Tajik: 19.059721",
"Arabian:Saudi: 19.707036",
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"Eastern_Asian:Japanese: 60.849832",
"Han:Han_Sichuan: 61.240684",
"South_American:Bolivian_Pando: 61.713703",
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"Central_American:Mayan: 64.865693",
"Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya: 69.620217",
"Gambian:Gambian: 70.397361",
"Bantu:Bantu_S.W.: 71.806454",
"Yoruban:Yoruba: 73.040790",
"San:Khomani_San: 83.095945"
]

Como lo hiciste???

[PT Tagus]

Como lo hiciste???

http://185.144.156.77:3000/freeform_nmonte.html

Reference Data: datasheet
Test Data: sus coordenadas

En la opción Contains Header seleciona No Header

Finalmente, hace clic en Run nMontes


https://i.imgur.com/QhZ38bG.png

[Rocinante]

http://185.144.156.77:3000/freeform_nmonte.html

Reference Data: datasheet
Test Data: sus coordenadas

En la opción Contains Header seleciona No Header

Finalmente, hace clic en Run nMontes


https://i.imgur.com/QhZ38bG.png

Gracias hermano!

[Rocinante]

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"Caucasian": 0,
"Central_American": 0,
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"Eastern_African": 0,
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"Han": 0,
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"Oceanian": 0,
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"Western_European": 0,
"Yoruban": 0,
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}
]

[PT Tagus]

Celtibero Italico

Post your distance results between CODE (#). :D

[Gota_type_]

Con algo tan poco específico como como M 417, no se puede saber gran cosa.Pero sí es cierto que suelo dar más alto y con más frecuencia resultados de zonas europeas relacionados con r1a que asiáticos. Pero vete a saber...

Yo creo que es más reciente que lo que comentáis, de alrededor del finales del siglo XVIII. Al menos es lo primero que pensé, lo comenté mil veces, las Nuevas Poblaciones de Andalucía y Sierra Morena, los colonos centroeuropeos de Pablo de Olavide y Johann K***** Thürriegel.Había polacos, alemanes de Sajonia, Sorbios, Checos y Húngaros, aparte de Holandeses o Belgas, cualquiera de ellos podría haber traído el r1a.

Otra posible explicación sería que tuviera antepasados pasiegos.

O un soldado polaco de las tropas de Napoleón, cerca de donde es mi familia paterna tuvo lugar la batalla de Bailén.

Vete a saber, igual no es ninguna de estas posibilidades.

Hay mucho mito con lo de las repoblaciones de Jaén. Parece ser que la mayoría murieron durante el siguiente siglo: por hambrunas y mala aclimatación a la zona. También tu R1a podría venir de los vándalos. Sí, ya sé que la mayoría se iría al norte de Africa, pero seguramente unos cuantos miles de quedarían y se multiplicarían. Aunque por lo que he leído es cierto que los musulmanes de Al-Andalus tuvieron tanto esclavos de Europa del Este (incluso polacos) como más adelante estos mismos europeos del Este convertidos al islam luchando mano a mano con los moros.


Cierto es, pero las ciudades no son más que gente de pueblo amontonada en un mismo lugar (duras palabras). He indagado en mis parientes por parte de abuelo y son casi todos de pueblo.

Al revés, en los pueblos es donde se mantiene la homogeneidad de los antepasados (la gente se casó durante muchos siglos con la gente del pueblo como mucho con los 3-4 pueblos a menos de 10 kms. En las ciudades se mezclarían ya gentes de lugares diversos (aunque fueran de la misma provincia), y tb dependiendo de las zonas pues tendrían en su momento judíos, moros, fenicios, romanos, gitanos, etc. Es decir, las ciudades son el peor lugar para identificar a la gente de una zona. Es decir, en las ciudades no solo hubo mezcla interna de toda la variabilidad de la provincia sino que es donde se asentaron todas las etnias que acabo de decir.

Por ejemplo, hay algo particular en los invasores germánicos (suevos, visigodos) y es que estos hicieron mucha más vida rural. Salvo los visigodos de 2-3 ciudades importantes (Toledo por ejmplo), la inmensa mayoría habitó en zonas muy rurales y se dedicaron a la ganadería y agricultura. Baste con ver que durante siglos vivieron en Tierra de Campos (antiguamente llamada Campos Góticos). Sería bueno que se hicieran análisis de halogrupos a los pueblos de Tierra de Campos, seguro que sale un 20-30% de halogrupos germánicos.

A los guiris y a los que venden España como un país meramente mediterráneo les jodería bastante tener que poner varios círculos en los mapas de Eupedia con un 20-30% de halogrupos I o R1b germánico. Estoy convencido de que es así. Hasta hay un pueblo que fue fundado por visigodos: Wamba. A saber qué porcentaje saldría ahí. No son pueblos que recibieran emigración de otros lugares, aunque ellos sí emigrarían, pero los que estén darían resultados llamativos.

[Defcon2]

Hay mucho mito con lo de las repoblaciones de Jaén. Parece ser que la mayoría murieron durante el siguiente siglo: por hambrunas y mala aclimatación a la zona. También tu R1a podría venir de los vándalos. Sí, ya sé que la mayoría se iría al norte de Africa, pero seguramente unos cuantos miles de quedarían y se multiplicarían. Aunque por lo que he leído es cierto que los musulmanes de Al-Andalus tuvieron tanto esclavos de Europa del Este (incluso polacos) como más adelante estos mismos europeos del Este convertidos al islam luchando mano a mano con los moros.



Al revés, en los pueblos es donde se mantiene la homogeneidad de los antepasados (la gente se casó durante muchos siglos con la gente del pueblo como mucho con los 3-4 pueblos a menos de 10 kms. En las ciudades se mezclarían ya gentes de lugares diversos (aunque fueran de la misma provincia), y tb dependiendo de las zonas pues tendrían en su momento judíos, moros, fenicios, romanos, gitanos, etc. Es decir, las ciudades son el peor lugar para identificar a la gente de una zona. Es decir, en las ciudades no solo hubo mezcla interna de toda la variabilidad de la provincia sino que es donde se asentaron todas las etnias que acabo de decir.

Por ejemplo, hay algo particular en los invasores germánicos (suevos, visigodos) y es que estos hicieron mucha más vida rural. Salvo los visigodos de 2-3 ciudades importantes (Toledo por ejmplo), la inmensa mayoría habitó en zonas muy rurales y se dedicaron a la ganadería y agricultura. Baste con ver que durante siglos vivieron en Tierra de Campos (antiguamente llamada Campos Góticos). Sería bueno que se hicieran análisis de halogrupos a los pueblos de Tierra de Campos, seguro que sale un 20-30% de halogrupos germánicos.

A los guiris y a los que venden España como un país meramente mediterráneo les jodería bastante tener que poner varios círculos en los mapas de Eupedia con un 20-30% de halogrupos I o R1b germánico. Estoy convencido de que es así. Hasta hay un pueblo que fue fundado por visigodos: Wamba. A saber qué porcentaje saldría ahí. No son pueblos que recibieran emigración de otros lugares, aunque ellos sí emigrarían, pero los que estén darían resultados llamativos.

Solo decía que las ciudades están repletas de descendientes de pueblos, España fue hasta los años 50-60 básicamente rural y que es cuando se hizo la transición a la ciudad. Asentamientos visigodos están por todos lados, tampoco creo que haya duda con esto, volviendo como ejemplo a mis parientes hay un asentamiento de estos en el pueblo de mi abuelete.

Este foro competiría duro en el certamen sobre "lugares más racistas en la web", si inventan o niegan algo para perjudicar a otras personas/naciones no sorprenderse.

[Defcon2]

Calculadora sencilla pero efectiva:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.5671% / 0.03567091
93.6 Blanco
6.4 Moro


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Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0708,0.119514,0.173656,-0.003017,-0.101745,0.042469,-0.046854,-0.00094,-0.012692,0.021066,0.074717,0.009419,0.009142,-0.017691,0.000963,-0.041938,-0.007955,0.024121,0.000633,0.015209,-0.013882,-0.022336,0.008903,-0.012448,-0.012652,-0.007305
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0709,0.119514,0.19092,0. 008674,-0.108206,0.050163,-0.044065,-0.00282,-0.003923,0.038655,0.088202,0.006983,0.012289,-0.023488,0.001789,-0.042345,-0.023999,0.002347,-0.003674,0.011941,-0.019759,-0.006239,0.012242,-0.000616,-0.00723,-0.002994
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0723,0.118376,0.178733,0 .009805,-0.103037,0.057241,-0.05773,0.003525,0.000462,0.041518,0.080548,0.0016 24,0.004946,-0.027056,-0.005643,-0.043702,-0.006762,0.03729,0.00152,0.017975,-0.009254,-0.015473,0.002968,0.006779,-0.00012,-0.006227
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Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1099,0.111547,0.19092,0. 001508,-0.0969,0.055395,-0.04518,0.003525,-0.010615,0.037223,0.077997,0.006171,0.01124,-0.020515,0.00289,-0.039902,-0.016309,0.021644,0.00266,0.013324,-0.007504,-0.003868,0.002844,0.002588,-0.003012,-0.006347
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1100,0.112685,0.17264,-0.001131,-0.084949,0.049855,-0.054384,-0.00705,-0.002308,0.042132,0.088749,-0.003573,0.008692,-0.02557,-0.006881,-0.040173,-0.00769,0.031553,-0.00266,0.007793,-0.01063,-0.023708,-0.00136,0.003574,-0.003253,-0.001557
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101,0.114961,0.179749,0 .006411,-0.100776,0.054779,-0.043786,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.042541,0.078544,0.005684,0.008692,-0.023042,0.007432,-0.034744,-0.010209,0.01682,0.003927,0.018729,-0.006378,-0.020713,0.004575,-0.000616,-0.003133,-0.010179
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1102,0.106994,0.170609,0 .00528,-0.097546,0.059703,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.007846,0.030474,0.08474,0.005196,0.010041,-0.029732,-0.006193,-0.031759,0.001856,0.029597,0.002154,0.013073,-0.008754,-0.009109,0.010634,-0.003821,-0.003856,-0.002634
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1103,0.112685,0.169593,-0.006411,-0.10013,0.044008,-0.046854,-0.00705,-0.005538,0.039269,0.075992,0.011367,0.013638,-0.02215,-0.005505,-0.036644,-0.01127,0.019427,-0.002027,0.010559,-0.008004,-0.016346,0.005564,-0.011216,-0.009278,-0.006945
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1580,0.127482,0.182795,-0.003017,-0.103037,0.052317,-0.04769,-0.008695,-0.012692,0.040496,0.076904,0.007307,0.014987,-0.020961,-0.003716,-0.043159,0.001724,0.035986,-0.001647,0.006788,-0.009254,-0.010357,-0.001731,0.000246,-0.000482,-0.010298
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1581,0.113823,0.175687,0 .001131,-0.110467,0.057241,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.008077,0.040905,0.084558,0.004222,0.013488,-0.02215,-0.000826,-0.04248,0.003978,0.040549,0.004687,0.005405,-0.005628,-0.010731,0.00643,-0.013557,0.003494,-0.000958
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1583,0.119514,0.180764,0 .00264,-0.10756,0.048932,-0.051037,-0.010575,-0.008769,0.035792,0.087656,0.012342,0.012139,-0.023786,0.005092,-0.036644,-0.006497,0.020861,0.002534,0.011816,-0.003877,-0.011729,0.004822,0.001232,-0.006748,-0.00491
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0231,0.122929,0.082258, 0.044877,0.113697,-0.033852,0.046575,0,-0.006,-0.051949,-0.072165,0.007307,0.001049,0.003271,-0.022708,0.029994,0.018297,0.005998,-0.003547,-0.00176,0.011005,-0.003244,0,-0.001725,0.013616,-0.000838
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0357,0.126344,0.092413, 0.038089,0.107883,-0.029852,0.039324,0.00564,-0.008077,-0.043768,-0.065605,-0.001137,-0.00015,-0.003568,-0.024772,0.035287,0.01896,0.00013,0.003167,-0.005279,0.004877,0.003619,0.006925,0.008504,0.012 532,-0.005269
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0370,0.124067,0.08632,0 .049403,0.111759,-0.027697,0.044623,0.00517,-0.000462,-0.066061,-0.066516,-0.002436,-0.00015,0.000297,-0.025735,0.03868,0.013789,0.000782,-0.000127,-0.005154,0.015758,0.001622,-0.0115,0.007025,0.021328,-0.003952
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0429,0.130897,0.088351, 0.044123,0.126617,-0.030467,0.050758,0.005875,0.003,-0.059516,-0.075992,0.000974,-0.008992,0.002081,-0.018717,0.039359,0.020949,0.004955,-0.000887,0.003897,0.022636,-0.005615,0.000495,0.020089,0.018798,-0.013651
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0438,0.126344,0.085304, 0.042615,0.122741,-0.032929,0.048806,-0.002115,0.002077,-0.068925,-0.080548,0.00065,0.002548,-0.00892,-0.029176,0.032437,0.011668,0.002347,-0.005068,-0.006285,0.018009,-0.00025,0.001731,0.021199,0.021328,-0.007185
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0439,0.127482,0.096475, 0.037335,0.117896,-0.017542,0.038487,0.00329,-0.006,-0.052154,-0.057587,0.001949,-0.000599,-0.007582,-0.02257,0.038273,0.016441,-0.002217,-0.004941,-0.00352,0.018634,-0.001996,0.00643,0.015529,0.02663,-0.00934
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0443,0.124067,0.093429, 0.039975,0.108206,-0.027082,0.045459,0.003995,-0.007154,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.001299,-3e-04,0.000595,-0.016515,0.044923,0.003978,-0.014212,-0.001394,-0.003771,0.013006,0.00262,0.000247,0.003944,0.0189 18,0.002036
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0444,0.125205,0.08632,0 .045632,0.119188,-0.024928,0.047969,0.00564,-0.001154,-0.050108,-0.073259,0.002598,0.002847,0,-0.042663,0.029451,0.022938,-0.000522,0.003294,-0.010307,0.013131,-0.015098,0.004204,0.010846,0.016267,0.003952
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I7489,0.122929,0.090382, 0.042238,0.110144,-0.03416,0.043507,0.004935,0.000692,-0.058085,-0.082735,0.005196,0.004046,-0.010406,-0.006881,0.041123,0.01485,-0.008345,-0.006588,-0.002388,0.006878,-0.010232,-0.001731,0.014173,0.018075,-0.006586
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF009,-0.162767,0.07718,-0.024513,-0.079135,0.009848,-0.047969,-0.052877,0.020538,0.13294,0.002005,0.025333,-0.026676,0.057978,-0.052985,0.072882,-0.034076,0.002347,-0.05625,-0.130475,0.04152,-0.026204,-0.120314,0.067909,-0.016508,0.012334
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF010,-0.193499,0.083273,-0.03017,-0.088502,0.034776,-0.055499,-0.076378,0.019384,0.163619,0.008565,0.02111,-0.030573,0.07879,-0.046104,0.077496,-0.046141,-0.00665,-0.069805,-0.144176,0.036518,-0.042924,-0.129217,0.07629,-0.015303,0.018322
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF011,-0.194638,0.085304,-0.021873,-0.088825,0.026774,-0.059961,-0.072148,0.019845,0.161165,0.002551,0.016564,-0.035818,0.080574,-0.051196,0.066367,-0.037523,0.012126,-0.071199,-0.14493,0.035767,-0.041427,-0.12662,0.068279,-0.011447,0.018441
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF013,-0.196914,0.082258,-0.026398,-0.088502,0.032314,-0.057173,-0.074733,0.017768,0.156665,0.002369,0.02111,-0.036717,0.077898,-0.052159,0.072746,-0.038584,0.000913,-0.069552,-0.141285,0.039894,-0.035687,-0.125384,0.075428,-0.011206,0.020477
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF014,-0.201467,0.079211,-0.018479,-0.083011,0.034468,-0.055499,-0.076848,0.014538,0.162596,0.002005,0.020461,-0.029374,0.078344,-0.054223,0.066503,-0.025192,0.017602,-0.063724,-0.151215,0.04127,-0.042176,-0.126126,0.077153,-0.014339,0.012693

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.9496% / 0.02949569
96.6 Blanco
3.4 Moro

[Damião de Góis]

Obrigado pelas calculadoras em tempos de pandemia:

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.9287% / 0.01928716
71.8 Iberian
17.0 Northwestern_European
9.0 Italian
1.6 Yoruban
0.6 Oceanian





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"sample": "Test1:Gil_Vicente",
"fit": 2.0742,
"Iberian": 74.17,
"Northwestern_European": 10,
"Western_European": 10,
"Italian": 2.5,
"Bantu": 0.83,
"Levantine": 0.83,
"Northeastern_African": 0.83,
"Northwestern_African": 0.83,
"Arabian": 0,
"Baltic": 0,
"Caucasian": 0,
"Central_American": 0,
"Central_Asian": 0,
"Central_European": 0,
"Eastern_African": 0,
"Eastern_Asian": 0,
"Eastern_European": 0,
"Gambian": 0,
"Han": 0,
"North_American": 0,
"Northeastern_Asian": 0,
"Oceanian": 0,
"San": 0,
"Scandinavian": 0,
"South_American": 0,
"South_Asian": 0,
"Southeastern_European": 0,
"Yoruban": 0,
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"Western_European:French_Alsace: 5.035048",
"Italian:Italian_Lazio: 6.406324",
"Central_European:Hungarian: 7.491437",
"Northwestern_European:Scottish: 7.623241",
"Southeastern_European:Greek_Peloponnese: 7.816504",
"Scandinavian:Swedish: 9.205138",
"Eastern_European:Russian_Orel: 11.832061",
"Levantine:Lebanese_Druze: 13.787567",
"Baltic:Estonian: 13.885945",
"Caucasian:Karachay: 14.943365",
"Central_Asian:Tajik: 18.743029",
"Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen: 19.200486",
"Arabian:Saudi: 21.404050",
"Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ: 25.432320",
"South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh: 30.114723",
"Northeastern_Asian:Koryak: 58.512909",
"North_American:Amerindian_North: 60.136575",
"Eastern_Asian:Japanese: 61.120313",
"Han:Han_Sichuan: 61.427140",
"South_American:Bolivian_Pando: 61.839590",
"Oceanian:Australian: 63.540805",
"Central_American:Mayan: 64.958398",
"Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya: 70.736592",
"Gambian:Gambian: 71.472708",
"Bantu:Bantu_S.W.: 72.880789",
"Yoruban:Yoruba: 74.111737",
"San:Khomani_San: 83.866524"
]
}
]




Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.8079% / 0.02807883
94.4 Blanco
5.6 Moro

[Rocinante]

Obrigado pelas calculadoras em tempos de pandemia:

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.9287% / 0.01928716
71.8 Iberian
17.0 Northwestern_European
9.0 Italian
1.6 Yoruban
0.6 Oceanian





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"Northwestern_European": 10,
"Western_European": 10,
"Italian": 2.5,
"Bantu": 0.83,
"Levantine": 0.83,
"Northeastern_African": 0.83,
"Northwestern_African": 0.83,
"Arabian": 0,
"Baltic": 0,
"Caucasian": 0,
"Central_American": 0,
"Central_Asian": 0,
"Central_European": 0,
"Eastern_African": 0,
"Eastern_Asian": 0,
"Eastern_European": 0,
"Gambian": 0,
"Han": 0,
"North_American": 0,
"Northeastern_Asian": 0,
"Oceanian": 0,
"San": 0,
"Scandinavian": 0,
"South_American": 0,
"South_Asian": 0,
"Southeastern_European": 0,
"Yoruban": 0,
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"Western_European:French_Alsace: 5.035048",
"Italian:Italian_Lazio: 6.406324",
"Central_European:Hungarian: 7.491437",
"Northwestern_European:Scottish: 7.623241",
"Southeastern_European:Greek_Peloponnese: 7.816504",
"Scandinavian:Swedish: 9.205138",
"Eastern_European:Russian_Orel: 11.832061",
"Levantine:Lebanese_Druze: 13.787567",
"Baltic:Estonian: 13.885945",
"Caucasian:Karachay: 14.943365",
"Central_Asian:Tajik: 18.743029",
"Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen: 19.200486",
"Arabian:Saudi: 21.404050",
"Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ: 25.432320",
"South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh: 30.114723",
"Northeastern_Asian:Koryak: 58.512909",
"North_American:Amerindian_North: 60.136575",
"Eastern_Asian:Japanese: 61.120313",
"Han:Han_Sichuan: 61.427140",
"South_American:Bolivian_Pando: 61.839590",
"Oceanian:Australian: 63.540805",
"Central_American:Mayan: 64.958398",
"Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya: 70.736592",
"Gambian:Gambian: 71.472708",
"Bantu:Bantu_S.W.: 72.880789",
"Yoruban:Yoruba: 74.111737",
"San:Khomani_San: 83.866524"
]
}
]




Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.8079% / 0.02807883
94.4 Blanco
5.6 Moro


De nada compadre!

[Pedro Ruben]

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Baltic:Estonian,0.1329454,0.1141455,0.087756,0.083 3017,0.0427771,0.0297575,0.0113745,0.0144457,0.000 4091,-0.028447,6.5e-05,-0.0123489,0.0194597,0.0213591,-0.0066639,0.0017104,0.0002216,-0.0024832,0.0013451,0.0022137,0.001385,-0.0018672,0.0042644,0.0007471,0.0030535
Scandinavian:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329 ,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682, 0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0. 0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,0.1050967,0.1499597,0. 033061,-0.0011843,0.0409303,-0.0027887,-0.003995,-0.0010003,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993,0.0050453,-0.0106047,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026077,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064107,0.000417,0.0021213,-0.00474,-0.0014787,-0.0027713,0.0014373
Yoruban:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
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Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya,-0.5978967,0.063688,0.0171859,0.007106,-1e-07,0.0058569,-0.0145036,0.0188894,0.0045287,-0.0215819,-0.0050573,0.015993,-0.0328754,0.0011991,-0.0304013,0.0267264,-0.0180303,-0.0024431,-0.009948,0.0047167,0.0016934,0.0001946,0.0034157,0 .0039763,0.0006671
Oceanian:Australian,-0.0421145,-0.235095,-0.213639,0.234499,0.1384875,-0.3402465,-0.0031725,0.0074995,-0.0082835,0.00082,-0.006171,0.001199,0.0008175,-0.002684,-0.0035285,-0.000133,0.0100395,0.002027,-0.0023885,0.0060655,0.003556,-0.000371,-0.0033895,0.0012655,-0.0045505
Arabian:Saudi,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
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Eastern_European:Russian_Orel,0.1312217,0.1186719, 0.0717069,0.0624774,0.0331489,0.0222316,0.0085273, 0.0119994,-0.0049086,-0.0253049,-0.0012991,-0.0071936,0.0147176,0.0233369,-0.0120401,-0.0008146,0.0023841,-0.0019726,0.0030347,0.001483,-0.0045277,-0.0055643,0.0058277,-0.0053536,-0.001112
San:Khomani_San,-0.6220435,0.060424,0.02093,0.030039,-0.0004615,0.000837,0.236773,-0.1823,0.0185095,0.0067425,0.00203,-0.053952,-0.0211845,0.005505,0.018797,-0.0212805,0.029662,0.2623085,-0.0877375,0.001751,-0.0331915,-0.002844,0.0038205,-0.0050005,0.0016765
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Italian:Italian_Lazio,0.1146768,0.1525832,0.006694 ,-0.0350455,0.0213115,-0.0115738,0.0024675,0.000519,0.0068512,0.0234627,0 .001299,0.0028475,-0.007656,-0.0070875,-0.0068538,0.0041432,-0.000228,-0.0005068,0.0018225,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.0033695,-0.0003697,-0.0003613,-0.000479
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Western_European:French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715 ,0.0503172,0.0224324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199 ,0.0048748,0.0068516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
Bantu:Bantu_S.W.,-0.6222873,0.0658643,0.018425,0.0160116,0.0006156,0 .0075699,0.0014437,0.0089336,-0.0274354,0.0172863,0.0028534,-0.0046459,-0.0030369,0.001966,-0.0051573,0.004887,-0.0033901,0.0217903,-0.0106846,0.0037876,-0.0011764,0.0004591,0.0014964,0.0002411,-0.0005471
Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen,-0.0391015,0.1347667,-0.0189668,-0.0779,0.0188088,-0.0355667,-0.0216624,0.005864,0.0576878,0.0205605,0.0056455,-0.0122362,0.0263216,-0.009407,0.0124783,-0.0050072,-0.0056909,-0.0131682,-0.0303375,0.0115203,-0.0085143,-0.0241851,0.0149999,-4.95e-05,0.0005494
Central_European:Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0 553559,0.0364298,0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0 075326,0.0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
North_American:Amerindian_North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805
South_American:Bolivian_Pando,0.0534967,-0.2626833,0.1107477,0.0837647,-0.0965307,-0.013294,-0.2671287,-0.3237557,-0.011658,-0.007411,-0.0049797,-0.0005493,-0.000545,0.0232123,-0.007465,-0.0001327,-4.37e-05,0.0029563,4.2e-05,0.0016673,-0.001414,0.0042453,-0.0006983,0.001245,-0.001357
Central_American:Mayan,0.056749,-0.2949387,0.1107659,0.0902554,-0.1048547,-0.0156974,-0.2758356,-0.3286347,-0.0140829,-0.0160369,-0.0017167,-0.0010061,0.001083,0.0199947,-0.008783,0.0037504,0.0079163,-0.0009773,-0.0013466,-0.0019474,-0.0026024,0.0056176,0.0010037,3.44e-05,0.0003594
South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.064737,-0.0336392,-0.1301538,0.1126068,-0.0731289,0.0650512,0.0003525,0.0089997,0.0287868, 0.0123239,-0.0062315,0.0016672,-0.0046456,-0.0012385,0.008805,-0.0048561,-0.0096485,0.0011716,-0.0023569,-0.010974,-0.00078,0.0001081,0.0026806,0.0032082,-0.0081579
Eastern_Asian:Japanese,0.0229543,-0.445479,0.0130733,-0.059109,0.0362118,0.0093428,0.003525,0.0005768,-0.0065105,0.0106607,-0.0740492,-0.0074685,0.011546,-0.0070647,-0.0110612,-0.004464,0.0003042,0.0035895,0.001676,-0.0092547,0.0270355,-0.01659,0.0049093,0.003374,-0.0419723
Northeastern_Asian:Koryak,0.0434804,-0.3881356,0.1195474,0.0124678,-0.1187914,-0.0543836,-0.0293296,-0.0282912,0.0087944,-0.0018954,0.0401424,-0.0001498,-0.0014568,-0.0191846,-0.0286642,-0.0182442,-0.0027644,0.0166468,0.038338,0.0220604,0.0364858,-0.0595264,0.009515,0.0217138,0.0328354
Han:Han_Sichuan,0.0198376,-0.4481384,-0.0072191,-0.0669994,0.0771573,0.0334269,0.0019807,-0.0053403,-0.0132647,0.0003644,-0.0533564,-0.0100197,0.0100026,-0.0074121,-0.0077361,-0.0008144,0.0011921,-0.0007057,-0.003717,-0.0058243,0.0112301,0.0063063,0.0116909,0.0002239, 0.0024806

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.2716% / 0.02271648
52.4 Iberian
29.2 Southeastern_European
9.6 Scandinavian
6.4 Northwestern_African
2.4 Baltic

Espero que les guste.

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.1578% / 0.02157754
47.6 Iberian
19.6 Northwestern_European
13.0 Western_European
7.8 Italian
7.0 Northwestern_African
3.4 Northeastern_African
1.0 Gambian
0.6 South_American

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.2782% / 0.02278187 | ADC: 0.25x
69.8 Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura
12.2 Western_European:French_Alsace
9.2 Northwestern_European:Scottish
7.2 Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen
1.4 Gambian:Gambian
0.2 South_American:Bolivian_Pando

[PT Tagus]

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Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 2.9090% / 0.02909025
92.6 Blanco
7.4 Moro

[Rocinante]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.1578% / 0.02157754
47.6 Iberian
19.6 Northwestern_European
13.0 Western_European
7.8 Italian
7.0 Northwestern_African
3.4 Northeastern_African
1.0 Gambian
0.6 South_American

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[Pedro Ruben]

Calculadora sencilla pero efectiva:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.5671% / 0.03567091
93.6 Blanco
6.4 Moro


Blanco:WHG:ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.1859 2,0.184 111,0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0 .018041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
Blanco:WHG:BEL_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176 ,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_C:I1584,0.114961,0.147252,-0.037335,-0.062339,-0.005847,-0.01506,-0.00094,-0.010384,-0.011249,0.025878,0.009581,0.013638,-0.014569,-0.006468,-0.009365,-0.012463,0.009909,-0.006841,-0.002765,-0.011255,0.003369,0.008656,-0.005053,-0.002048,-0.011137
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0707,0.122929,0.184826,0 .001886,-0.110144,0.054779,-0.048527,0.00141,-0.011769,0.036201,0.08474,0.011205,0.016335,-0.021704,0.002615,-0.038409,-0.014187,0.022817,0.00114,0.012947,-0.002751,-0.011979,0.009645,-0.008627,0.001566,-0.001676
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0708,0.119514,0.173656,-0.003017,-0.101745,0.042469,-0.046854,-0.00094,-0.012692,0.021066,0.074717,0.009419,0.009142,-0.017691,0.000963,-0.041938,-0.007955,0.024121,0.000633,0.015209,-0.013882,-0.022336,0.008903,-0.012448,-0.012652,-0.007305
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0709,0.119514,0.19092,0. 008674,-0.108206,0.050163,-0.044065,-0.00282,-0.003923,0.038655,0.088202,0.006983,0.012289,-0.023488,0.001789,-0.042345,-0.023999,0.002347,-0.003674,0.011941,-0.019759,-0.006239,0.012242,-0.000616,-0.00723,-0.002994
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0723,0.118376,0.178733,0 .009805,-0.103037,0.057241,-0.05773,0.003525,0.000462,0.041518,0.080548,0.0016 24,0.004946,-0.027056,-0.005643,-0.043702,-0.006762,0.03729,0.00152,0.017975,-0.009254,-0.015473,0.002968,0.006779,-0.00012,-0.006227
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0724,0.117238,0.168578,0 .018856,-0.10013,0.052933,-0.047969,-0.00094,-0.004384,0.031088,0.075446,0.008931,0.01139,-0.017691,-0.003303,-0.045059,0.001989,0.041853,0.012922,0.020363,-0.009755,-0.018717,0.004699,-0.007518,-0.001928,-0.008023
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0726,0.120652,0.180764,0 .00264,-0.104653,0.053548,-0.054663,-0.005875,-0.002308,0.035383,0.088749,0.009743,0.015586,-0.027651,0.006881,-0.040716,-0.037655,-0.001825,0.002914,0.0225,-0.015382,-0.013351,0.007666,-0.004683,0.00253,0.006945
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0727,0.114961,0.185842,0 .004525,-0.103683,0.036314,-0.053547,-0.00141,-0.008077,0.031088,0.077633,0.005846,0.01109,-0.031813,0.00055,-0.056052,-0.010607,0.022817,0.009122,0.032807,-0.015007,-0.017968,0.005441,-0.016022,-0.007953,0.008023
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0736,0.119514,0.183811,0 .006788,-0.091732,0.049855,-0.049921,-0.0047,-0.006,0.04295,0.077815,0.012829,0.013338,-0.020961,-0.011423,-0.04058,0.005701,0.033248,-0.007475,0.007793,-0.007003,-0.016097,0.006306,-0.005916,-0.000964,-0.007544
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0744,0.119514,0.186857,0 .009428,-0.107883,0.058472,-0.052989,-0.00987,-0.01223,0.03027,0.082371,0.010393,0.01139,-0.031813,0.003441,-0.048045,-0.011668,0.022426,0.000633,0.005279,-0.007253,-0.012852,-0.000124,-0.004683,0.002289,0.001796
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0745,0.118376,0.178733,-0.002263,-0.098838,0.049548,-0.046575,-0.010105,-0.002538,0.036814,0.075628,0.010068,0.014237,-0.017542,0.00812,-0.035966,-0.020949,0.005346,0.006334,0.020489,-0.014382,-0.017095,0.008037,0.001356,-0.009278,-0.004191
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I0746,0.120652,0.180764,0 .011691,-0.093024,0.048317,-0.043507,-0.012691,-0.010615,0.034565,0.078726,0.010393,0.009591,-0.023786,0.006606,-0.048316,-0.027844,0.005607,0.004054,0.012947,-0.017383,-0.013102,0.011005,-0.006532,-0.005543,-0.002036
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1096,0.120652,0.184826,0 .008297,-0.101745,0.051702,-0.044344,-0.005405,-0.003692,0.039473,0.0831,0.010718,0.017385,-0.02438,0.006331,-0.043702,-0.0179,0.025946,-0.00076,0.012821,-0.005878,-0.015722,0.00507,-0.005793,0.007832,-0.016406
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1097,0.120652,0.18178,-0.001886,-0.106591,0.054472,-0.048527,-0.00611,-0.007615,0.038246,0.084922,0.008769,0.014687,-0.022894,0.000413,-0.048859,-0.006629,0.021383,0.003421,0.013952,-0.015257,-0.013975,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.009158,-0.002515
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1098,0.114961,0.179749,-0.004148,-0.092701,0.040931,-0.045459,-0.001175,-0.010846,0.030883,0.068703,0.009743,0.007044,-0.019623,0.000688,-0.044381,-0.001326,0.032987,0.003294,0.006788,-0.001501,-0.01148,0.007914,0.007025,-0.002771,-0.00958
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1099,0.111547,0.19092,0. 001508,-0.0969,0.055395,-0.04518,0.003525,-0.010615,0.037223,0.077997,0.006171,0.01124,-0.020515,0.00289,-0.039902,-0.016309,0.021644,0.00266,0.013324,-0.007504,-0.003868,0.002844,0.002588,-0.003012,-0.006347
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1100,0.112685,0.17264,-0.001131,-0.084949,0.049855,-0.054384,-0.00705,-0.002308,0.042132,0.088749,-0.003573,0.008692,-0.02557,-0.006881,-0.040173,-0.00769,0.031553,-0.00266,0.007793,-0.01063,-0.023708,-0.00136,0.003574,-0.003253,-0.001557
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101,0.114961,0.179749,0 .006411,-0.100776,0.054779,-0.043786,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.042541,0.078544,0.005684,0.008692,-0.023042,0.007432,-0.034744,-0.010209,0.01682,0.003927,0.018729,-0.006378,-0.020713,0.004575,-0.000616,-0.003133,-0.010179
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1102,0.106994,0.170609,0 .00528,-0.097546,0.059703,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.007846,0.030474,0.08474,0.005196,0.010041,-0.029732,-0.006193,-0.031759,0.001856,0.029597,0.002154,0.013073,-0.008754,-0.009109,0.010634,-0.003821,-0.003856,-0.002634
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1103,0.112685,0.169593,-0.006411,-0.10013,0.044008,-0.046854,-0.00705,-0.005538,0.039269,0.075992,0.011367,0.013638,-0.02215,-0.005505,-0.036644,-0.01127,0.019427,-0.002027,0.010559,-0.008004,-0.016346,0.005564,-0.011216,-0.009278,-0.006945
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1580,0.127482,0.182795,-0.003017,-0.103037,0.052317,-0.04769,-0.008695,-0.012692,0.040496,0.076904,0.007307,0.014987,-0.020961,-0.003716,-0.043159,0.001724,0.035986,-0.001647,0.006788,-0.009254,-0.010357,-0.001731,0.000246,-0.000482,-0.010298
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1581,0.113823,0.175687,0 .001131,-0.110467,0.057241,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.008077,0.040905,0.084558,0.004222,0.013488,-0.02215,-0.000826,-0.04248,0.003978,0.040549,0.004687,0.005405,-0.005628,-0.010731,0.00643,-0.013557,0.003494,-0.000958
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1583,0.119514,0.180764,0 .00264,-0.10756,0.048932,-0.051037,-0.010575,-0.008769,0.035792,0.087656,0.012342,0.012139,-0.023786,0.005092,-0.036644,-0.006497,0.020861,0.002534,0.011816,-0.003877,-0.011729,0.004822,0.001232,-0.006748,-0.00491
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0231,0.122929,0.082258, 0.044877,0.113697,-0.033852,0.046575,0,-0.006,-0.051949,-0.072165,0.007307,0.001049,0.003271,-0.022708,0.029994,0.018297,0.005998,-0.003547,-0.00176,0.011005,-0.003244,0,-0.001725,0.013616,-0.000838
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0357,0.126344,0.092413, 0.038089,0.107883,-0.029852,0.039324,0.00564,-0.008077,-0.043768,-0.065605,-0.001137,-0.00015,-0.003568,-0.024772,0.035287,0.01896,0.00013,0.003167,-0.005279,0.004877,0.003619,0.006925,0.008504,0.012 532,-0.005269
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0370,0.124067,0.08632,0 .049403,0.111759,-0.027697,0.044623,0.00517,-0.000462,-0.066061,-0.066516,-0.002436,-0.00015,0.000297,-0.025735,0.03868,0.013789,0.000782,-0.000127,-0.005154,0.015758,0.001622,-0.0115,0.007025,0.021328,-0.003952
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0429,0.130897,0.088351, 0.044123,0.126617,-0.030467,0.050758,0.005875,0.003,-0.059516,-0.075992,0.000974,-0.008992,0.002081,-0.018717,0.039359,0.020949,0.004955,-0.000887,0.003897,0.022636,-0.005615,0.000495,0.020089,0.018798,-0.013651
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0438,0.126344,0.085304, 0.042615,0.122741,-0.032929,0.048806,-0.002115,0.002077,-0.068925,-0.080548,0.00065,0.002548,-0.00892,-0.029176,0.032437,0.011668,0.002347,-0.005068,-0.006285,0.018009,-0.00025,0.001731,0.021199,0.021328,-0.007185
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0439,0.127482,0.096475, 0.037335,0.117896,-0.017542,0.038487,0.00329,-0.006,-0.052154,-0.057587,0.001949,-0.000599,-0.007582,-0.02257,0.038273,0.016441,-0.002217,-0.004941,-0.00352,0.018634,-0.001996,0.00643,0.015529,0.02663,-0.00934
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0443,0.124067,0.093429, 0.039975,0.108206,-0.027082,0.045459,0.003995,-0.007154,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.001299,-3e-04,0.000595,-0.016515,0.044923,0.003978,-0.014212,-0.001394,-0.003771,0.013006,0.00262,0.000247,0.003944,0.0189 18,0.002036
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0444,0.125205,0.08632,0 .045632,0.119188,-0.024928,0.047969,0.00564,-0.001154,-0.050108,-0.073259,0.002598,0.002847,0,-0.042663,0.029451,0.022938,-0.000522,0.003294,-0.010307,0.013131,-0.015098,0.004204,0.010846,0.016267,0.003952
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I7489,0.122929,0.090382, 0.042238,0.110144,-0.03416,0.043507,0.004935,0.000692,-0.058085,-0.082735,0.005196,0.004046,-0.010406,-0.006881,0.041123,0.01485,-0.008345,-0.006588,-0.002388,0.006878,-0.010232,-0.001731,0.014173,0.018075,-0.006586
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF009,-0.162767,0.07718,-0.024513,-0.079135,0.009848,-0.047969,-0.052877,0.020538,0.13294,0.002005,0.025333,-0.026676,0.057978,-0.052985,0.072882,-0.034076,0.002347,-0.05625,-0.130475,0.04152,-0.026204,-0.120314,0.067909,-0.016508,0.012334
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF010,-0.193499,0.083273,-0.03017,-0.088502,0.034776,-0.055499,-0.076378,0.019384,0.163619,0.008565,0.02111,-0.030573,0.07879,-0.046104,0.077496,-0.046141,-0.00665,-0.069805,-0.144176,0.036518,-0.042924,-0.129217,0.07629,-0.015303,0.018322
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF011,-0.194638,0.085304,-0.021873,-0.088825,0.026774,-0.059961,-0.072148,0.019845,0.161165,0.002551,0.016564,-0.035818,0.080574,-0.051196,0.066367,-0.037523,0.012126,-0.071199,-0.14493,0.035767,-0.041427,-0.12662,0.068279,-0.011447,0.018441
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF013,-0.196914,0.082258,-0.026398,-0.088502,0.032314,-0.057173,-0.074733,0.017768,0.156665,0.002369,0.02111,-0.036717,0.077898,-0.052159,0.072746,-0.038584,0.000913,-0.069552,-0.141285,0.039894,-0.035687,-0.125384,0.075428,-0.011206,0.020477
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF014,-0.201467,0.079211,-0.018479,-0.083011,0.034468,-0.055499,-0.076848,0.014538,0.162596,0.002005,0.020461,-0.029374,0.078344,-0.054223,0.066503,-0.025192,0.017602,-0.063724,-0.151215,0.04127,-0.042176,-0.126126,0.077153,-0.014339,0.012693


Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.6600% / 0.02659975
91.6 Blanco
8.4 Moro

[Pedro Ruben]

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Ya me gustaria :cool: :cool:

[Gota_type_]

Solo decía que las ciudades están repletas de descendientes de pueblos, España fue hasta los años 50-60 básicamente rural y que es cuando se hizo la transición a la ciudad. Asentamientos visigodos están por todos lados, tampoco creo que haya duda con esto, volviendo como ejemplo a mis parientes hay un asentamiento de estos en el pueblo de mi abuelete.

Este foro competiría duro en el certamen sobre "lugares más racistas en la web", si inventan o niegan algo para perjudicar a otras personas/naciones no sorprenderse.

Si me refería más bien a que al margen de que las ciudades sean la combinación de gentes del entorno rural, también han sido el lugar preferencial para determinados colectivos que hacen que las estadísticas se mezclen mucho más que en los pueblos, ya q ha sido en las ciudades donde ha habido asentamientos de gitanos, judíos, musulmanes, y no tanto en los pueblos. Es decir, el 80-90% de los pueblos se conservan más "puros" mientras que la mayoría de las capitales son mezclas de eso mismo y otras inmigraciones interiores más otras etnias históricas.

Y sí, hay poblamientos visigodos en bastantes zonas, pero hay algunas zonas donde el asentamiento fue más concentrado (zonas a lo largo del río Duero) y sobre todo el que hasta hace solo 1 siglo a Tierra de Campos se le llamaba Campos Góticos, precisamente porque allí hubo una gran concentración. Y decía lo de q sorprenderá a los guiris q hacen los mapas no porque sean "racistas" (no pueden serlo pues pertenecemos a la misma raza aunque haya un % de obtusos q lo quieran negar, cosa q es irrelevante) sino porque tienen tendencia alguno a mal interpretar convenientemente conceptos: como que España es solo "Med", o como que el que haya sangre supuestamente norteafricana es por la invasión musulmana y no lo que la Historia y Arqueología apunta: pobladores de "España" que emigraron en épocas prehistóricas al norte de Africa y q luego asignan a esos genes de "españoles" prehistóricos la categoría de norte-africanos, haciendo la carambola de considerar esos genes como norteafricanos para los españoles actuales.

[gixajo]

Calculadora sencilla pero efectiva:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.5671% / 0.03567091
93.6 Blanco
6.4 Moro


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Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101,0.114961,0.179749,0 .006411,-0.100776,0.054779,-0.043786,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.042541,0.078544,0.005684,0.008692,-0.023042,0.007432,-0.034744,-0.010209,0.01682,0.003927,0.018729,-0.006378,-0.020713,0.004575,-0.000616,-0.003133,-0.010179
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1102,0.106994,0.170609,0 .00528,-0.097546,0.059703,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.007846,0.030474,0.08474,0.005196,0.010041,-0.029732,-0.006193,-0.031759,0.001856,0.029597,0.002154,0.013073,-0.008754,-0.009109,0.010634,-0.003821,-0.003856,-0.002634
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Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.8745% / 0.02874533
97.4 Blanco
2.6 Moro

[mitalit]

Podéis poner test genéticos de personas de Ceuta y Melilla?

[Defcon2]

Podéis poner test genéticos de personas de Ceuta y Melilla?

Si alguien ha visto un test de esas zonas le dono 50€, pero sé de un canario si la razón es encontrar exotismo.

[mitalit]

Si alguien ha visto un test de esas zonas le dono 50€, pero sé de un canario si la razón es encontrar exotismo.

Es para saber si las poblaciones autóctonas son mayoritariamente españolas (como en canarias) o si no son tan españolas. Por lo que leo en el foro se supone que las personas del norte de marruecos son mas claras que los españoles y por eso me sorprende que en Ceuta no pase eso

[Defcon2]

Es para saber si las poblaciones autóctonas son mayoritariamente españolas (como en canarias) o si no son tan españolas. Por lo que leo en el foro se supone que las personas del norte de marruecos son mas claras que los españoles y por eso me sorprende que en Ceuta no pase eso

Eso solo lo supone quién no debe ser nombrado belga, pero el nombre más común tanto en Ceuta como en Melilla es Mohammed, ya te puedes hacer una idea.

[gixajo]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320573-G25-model-Middle-Ages-Renaissance-unscaled

[Defcon2]

Hoja de cálculo con el tamaño de nuestras pollas, quiero decir color de ojos y piel. Tengo pensado compartirlo con el resto del foro, sería buena idea con tanto psicópata obsesivo y con evidentes problemas mentales?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yqIG1PX2Ra_J5uuHMGkKR4Di4fnbud45uiZUZuwrpE/edit?usp=sharing

[mitalit]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320573-G25-model-Middle-Ages-Renaissance-unscaled

Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.6516% / 0.01651597 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier
36.4 HUN_MA_Szolad
8.0 ITA_Sardinia_MA
4.2 SVK_Poprad_MA
0.6 RUS_Yana_MA

Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.6429% / 0.01642917
48.2 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier
28.6 HUN_MA_Szolad
11.2 ITA_Sardinia_MA
10.2 SVK_Poprad_MA
1.6 RUS_Yana_MA
0.2 RUS_Alan_MA

[gixajo]

Hoja de cálculo con el tamaño de nuestras pollas, quiero decir color de ojos y piel. Tengo pensado compartirlo con el resto del foro, sería buena idea con tanto psicópata obsesivo y con evidentes problemas mentales?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yqIG1PX2Ra_J5uuHMGkKR4Di4fnbud45uiZUZuwrpE/edit?usp=sharing

Sería buena idea si los psicópatas podemos usar la hoja como arma asesina.

Me molesta mucho la alusión al tamaño de nuestros penes, ¿Insinúas que tenemos aportes SSA en nuestros genes? Me ofende, voy a darte un punto negativo.

[gixajo]

Mierda, me vas a hacer buscar cosas en mis raw data?

Que pereza...

[mitalit]

Hoja de cálculo con el tamaño de nuestras pollas, quiero decir color de ojos y piel. Tengo pensado compartirlo con el resto del foro, sería buena idea con tanto psicópata obsesivo y con evidentes problemas mentales?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yqIG1PX2Ra_J5uuHMGkKR4Di4fnbud45uiZUZuwrpE/edit?usp=sharing

Podríamos hacer otra con nuestros datos bancarios, aunque prefiero no participar en esa

[Defcon2]

Podríamos hacerlas si queréis tanto el de los datos bancarios como el del tamaño peneal, pero la gente es poco sincera y sosa.

[Rocinante]

Podríamos hacerlas si queréis tanto el de los datos bancarios como el del tamaño peneal, pero la gente es poco sincera y sosa.

No tendre problemas en participar, igualmente el deshonesto que quiera meterse en mi cuenta, pues caera en un vacio profundo que ni el agujero negro en el espacio, vamos.

[gixajo]

Mi cuenta bancaria no tiene mucho interés...

[mitalit]

Podríamos hacerlas si queréis tanto el de los datos bancarios como el del tamaño peneal, pero la gente es poco sincera y sosa.

Bueno dudo que en esa pagina de excel entre el tamaño de mi pene (Todas las semanas hago un chiste sobre lo grande que es mi pene para recalcar mi masculinidad)

[gixajo]

Podríamos hacerlas si queréis tanto el de los datos bancarios como el del tamaño peneal, pero la gente es poco sincera y sosa.

me quieres avergonzar doblemente, no?

[Defcon2]

Tengo un pene algo por encima del promedio con una cuenta bancaria por debajo del promedio.

[mitalit]

Tengo un pene algo por encima del promedio con una cuenta bancaria por debajo del promedio.

Puedes vender tu pene.

[gixajo]

Mi cuenta bancaria en vez de en euros está en pitudodólares, incluye el símbolo internacional de esa moneda en tu tabla.

En cuanto al tamaño de mi pene seré muy preciso, está en un entorno abierto por ambos lados de entre menos infinito e infinito. Tengo constancia de que existe, al menos de una manera intuitiva.

[Defcon2]

Si lo vendo me quedo sin él.


Mi cuenta bancaria en vez de en euros está en pitudodólares, incluye el símbolo internacional de esa moneda en tu tabla.

En cuanto al tamaño de mi pene seré muy preciso, está en un entorno abierto por ambos lados de entre menos infinito e infinito. Tengo constancia de que existe, al menos de una manera intuitiva.

El símbolo internacional debe ser un pitufo.

Con qué ecuaciones se puede llegar a medir tu pene?

[gixajo]

Si lo vendo me quedo sin él.



El símbolo internacional debe ser un pitufo.

Con qué ecuaciones se puede llegar a medir tu pene?

Yo creo que con una regla con centímetros es suficiente...

Luego ya si quieres calcular su volumen exacto tendríamos que usar integrales, y si medimos la prsión y dispersión de puntos en su superficie durante la erección, ya tendríamos que usar cosas como la función Z de Rienman, o yo que sé.

[Defcon2]

No os apuntáis a la hoja de color de ojitos Celtibero y gixajo?


Yo creo que con una regla con centímetros es suficiente...

Luego ya si quieres calcular su volumen exacto tendríamos que usar integrales, y si medimos la prsión y dispersión de puntos en su superficie durante la erección, ya tendríamos que usar cosas como la función Z de Rienman, o yo que sé.

Tengo ganas de hacer mi propia escultura con las dimensiones reales de mi pene, es solo un proyecto a largo plazo pero para antes de que se me caigan los huevos al suelo.

[Rocinante]

No os apuntáis a la hoja de color de ojitos Celtibero y gixajo?



Tengo ganas de hacer mi propia escultura con las dimensiones reales de mi pene, es solo un proyecto a largo plazo pero para antes de que se me caigan los huevos al suelo.

Ed que no tengo algunos de los SNPs de esa hoja, pero creo que los tendré muy pronto, en lo que lo tenga me anoto

[gixajo]

No os apuntáis a la hoja de color de ojitos Celtibero y gixajo?



Tengo ganas de hacer mi propia escultura con las dimensiones reales de mi pene, es solo un proyecto a largo plazo pero para antes de que se me caigan los huevos al suelo.

A Nacho Vidal le hicieron una réplica de su pene, y fabricaron consoladores con ella. igual pueden hacerte algo similar por encargo.

O haces un modelo en 3D de tu badajo, y lo imprimes con una impresora 3D.

¿Porqué estoy dando ideas a alguien en un foro identitario europeo de como modelar una réplica de su pene?

¿En qué me especie de bestia me estoy convirtiendo? Necesito ayuda profesional.

[gixajo]

A ver que busque los snps esos...

[Defcon2]

Ed que no tengo algunos de los SNPs de esa hoja, pero creo que los tendré muy pronto, en lo que lo tenga me anoto

Te falta el de ojos no? pues si que tienes una raw data antigua.

Pretendo hacer frecuencias por país y hacerlo abierto para todos los miembros.

[Defcon2]

A Nacho Vidal le hicieron una réplica de su pene, y fabricaron consoladores con ella. igual pueden hacerte algo similar por encargo.

O haces un modelo en 3D de tu badajo, y lo imprimes con una impresora 3D.

¿Porqué estoy dando ideas a alguien en un foro identitario europeo de como modelar una réplica de su pene?

¿En qué me especie de bestia me estoy convirtiendo? Necesito ayuda profesional.

:lightbul::lightbul::lightbul:

[gixajo]

:lightbul::lightbul::lightbul:

De crío nos enseñaron a hacer réplicas de nuestras caras con escayola, igual es un método más sencillo.pero antes te recomiendo que te depiles tus partes colganderas, si no puedes sufrir bastante, sería cómico que tuvieras que llamar a los bomberos o ir a urgencias a que te quiten la escayola.

mierda, si lo sé no te aviso...

[Defcon2]

De crío nos enseñaron a hacer réplicas de nuestras caras con escayola, igual es un método más sencillo.pero antes te recomiendo que te depiles tus partes colganderas, si no puedes sufrir bastante, sería cómico que tuvieras que llamar a los bomberos o ir a urgencias a que te quiten la escayola.

mierda, si lo sé no te aviso...

Mientras me atienda una modesta y obediente médica no habría problema, si fuese un maromo... mejor ni lo pienso.

[gixajo]

Esto es lo qurs12913832 AA
rs1426654 AA
rs16891982 GG
rs26722 ??

no tengo rs26722, tengo unos cuantos que empiezan por rs2672*** y uno de ellos es rs2672221 pero no solo sr26722 así que supongo que no es ese.

[Defcon2]

Esto es lo qurs12913832 AA
rs1426654 AA
rs16891982 GG
rs26722 ??

no tengo rs26722, tengo unos cuantos que empiezan por rs2672*** y uno de ellos es rs2672221 pero no solo sr26722 así que supongo que no es ese.

Pon los que tengas, en realidad esos son los importantes.

[gixajo]

Eso hice, y qué implica cada uno?

[Defcon2]

Eso hice, y qué implica cada uno?

rs12913832 combinado con GG son ojos azules/verdes/avellana, combinado con AA es castaño y AG puede ser tanto uno como otro, aunque es mucho más probable el castaño o como es mi caso marrón clarito. La G indica "genes" para los ojos claros.

rs1426654 AA
rs16891982 GG

Para esos no lo recuerdo con detalle pero son de la piel.

[gixajo]

No sé como casa eso con el color de mis ojos.

https://i.imgur.com/YnNqTmU.jpg

[gixajo]

Pobre Urzaiz, le está llamando negro un griego ofendido porque hay gente que opina que los griegos son más negroides de piel que los españoles.

En fin, hay gente pa tó.

[Defcon2]

No sé como casa eso con el color de mis ojos.


El rs que te comenté no es el único responsable de la coloración, MH debería decirte los más relevantes en tu caso.

Pero tienen mucha carga de melanina tus ojos.

[PT Tagus]

Hoja de cálculo con el tamaño de nuestras pollas, quiero decir color de ojos y piel. Tengo pensado compartirlo con el resto del foro, sería buena idea con tanto psicópata obsesivo y con evidentes problemas mentales?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yqIG1PX2Ra_J5uuHMGkKR4Di4fnbud45uiZUZuwrpE/edit?usp=sharing

¿Cómo puedo saber esto?

[Defcon2]

¿Cómo puedo saber esto?

En rasgos, selecciona color de piel u ojos y en scientific details aparece. También puedes buscarlo desde el raw data directamente, solo pon en el buscador el snp.

[PT Tagus]

En rasgos, selecciona color de piel u ojos y en scientific details aparece. También puedes buscarlo desde el raw data directamente, solo pon en el buscador el snp.

link?

[Damião de Góis]

Coloquei "verde" na spreadsheet:


https://i.imgur.com/ccADij9.jpg



¿Cómo puedo saber esto?

23andme -> O teu perfil -> Browse Raw Data

[PT Tagus]

Coloquei "verde" na spreadsheet:


https://i.imgur.com/ccADij9.jpg




23andme -> O teu perfil -> Browse Raw Data

Obrigado :thumb001:

São verdes, sim

[Pedro Ruben]

rs16891982, rs26722 no los encuentro en mi raw-data....

[PT Tagus]

Eu coloquei "hazel"... :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/jMcvjv0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ApKyccR.png

[Erronkari]

Hola gente, no sé si es lo más apropiado, pero quería compartirles por acá mi nueva actualización de Ancestry.
Antes no me mostraba regiones ni migraciones, ahora sí me las da, lo curioso es que respecto de mis regiones mayoritarias, ambas me las pone en el espectro vasco... pensé que sería algo más variado, a pesar de que cómo ya comenté la mayoría de mi familia sí viene de ese sector, pero cómo en la Península las migraciones son algo tan típico, creí que me iba a mostrar alguna otra región, pero no... de hecho una es básicamente el espectro vasco hacia el oriente de Bilbao hasta el Pirineo y Prepirineo Aragonés y desde la zona de las Landas en Francia (Burdeos y Mont de Marsan) hasta Navarra y Aragón.
Y el otro está señalando el espectro vasco de Irún/Saint Jean de Luz hacia el Occidente, llegando hasta Castro Urdiales, Cantabria en el límite oriental y al sur hasta La Rioja y parte de Burgos.
Respecto de migraciones antes no mostraba nada, ahora señala a los Estados Unidos, especialmente los Estados de California, Idaho y Utah y un reborde de Oregon.
Creo que ha mejorado bastante, falta, pero ha sido una agradable sorpresa. ;)

https://i.imgur.com/D89ivky.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/z6WcDCW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mXGqItg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/l52cGO9.png
https://i.imgur.com/IXKRd8g.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3eSl3Cx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m1FhOCW.jpg

[gixajo]

Coloquei "verde" na spreadsheet:


https://i.imgur.com/ccADij9.jpg




23andme -> O teu perfil -> Browse Raw Data

Os olhos mais verdes do fórum!

[gixajo]

repetido.

[Raizen]

Try my new Iberian calculator for scaled coordinates:


Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA,0.1242568,0.154699,0.0 555627,0.004522,0.0679613,-0.002417,-0.0025068,0.0038458,0.0341553,0.0550352,-0.0043032,0.0096663,-0.0209117,-0.0154367,0.0064918,0.0047733,0.0091053,0.0049197,-0.0011732,-0.002522,0.0091712,0.0056468,-0.0093462,-0.0190388,0.003752
Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Central_BA,0.1239044,0.1505886, 0.059639,0.0003691,0.0686281,-0.0074901,-0.0052371,-0.0001319,0.0395609,0.0550354,-0.0029926,0.01291,-0.0243167,-0.019621,0.0066116,0.0103233,0.0156089,-0.0004163,-0.0021549,0.0007146,0.0115154,-0.0001766,-0.0088561,-0.020261,0.0028397
Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA,0.1269128,0.157153 2,0.055625,-0.0073482,0.0667815,-0.006763,-0.0067562,0.0053652,0.048063,0.0672453,-0.0018675,0.0116522,-0.0258298,-0.0177187,0.005225,0.0056685,0.0052478,-0.0016785,0.0006285,0.0003122,0.0087348,0.001082,-0.0048685,-0.0211775,-0.0010475
Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian,0.131466, 0.127957,0.069956,0.049742,0.0423155,0.017431,0.00 2115,0.007038,0.0024545,0.003189,0.0011365,0.00277 25,-0.0139,-0.0152075,0.0168975,0.007425,0.0018905,0.006461,0. 0056565,-0.002251,0.0056775,0.00643,0.0094285,0.0101215,-0.0069455
Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian,0.1281142,0 .1294236,0.0681749,0.0618366,0.0366562,0.0195534,0 .0069459,0.0088458,0.0002728,-0.0021463,-0.0048718,0.009608,-0.0101914,-0.0155362,0.0242939,0.0120656,0.0019703,0.0065033, 0.002947,0.0051831,0.0056566,0.004053,0.0024102,0. 0136563,0.0015302
Celtic_&_Germanic:England_IA,0.1317503,0.1307495,0.0601505 ,0.0480462,0.0350832,0.0201498,0.0048175,0.0036922 ,0.0042438,0.0041915,-0.0044248,0.0057322,-0.0105175,-0.018476,0.0180167,0.0100438,0.001206,-6.33e-05,0.0033312,0.003908,0.0038995,0.000247,-0.0012018,0.0114172,0.0004493
Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.04 8773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.00132 95,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.14951 56,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
West_African,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
North_African:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224

Davidski told me Global25 isn't able to distinguish between different kinds of Northwestern European admixture, so i include them in "Celtic_&_Germanic", which will deal with all the Celtic and Germanic ancestry of Iberians.

This is how the Celtiberians score in my calculator:


Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3759
Distance: 1.8508% / 0.01850823
61.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
37.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
1.8 Imperial_Roman

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3758
Distance: 2.8157% / 0.02815746
56.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
42.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
0.8 North_African


This is how some Portuguese and Spanish score:


Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.7727% / 0.00772722
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic
19.8 Imperial_Roman
10.6 North_African

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926387
37.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
36.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.4 Imperial_Roman
9.2 North_African

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 0.9607% / 0.00960694
44.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian
31.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
20.8 Imperial_Roman
3.6 North_African

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.7727% / 0.00772722
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic
19.8 Imperial_Roman
10.6 North_African

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926387
37.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
36.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.4 Imperial_Roman
9.2 North_African

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 0.9607% / 0.00960694
44.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian
31.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
20.8 Imperial_Roman
3.6 North_African

[Raizen]

Visigoths in my new calculator:


Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12163
Distance: 3.2679% / 0.03267931
71.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
23.6 Imperial_Roman
4.6 Iberian_&_Tartessian

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
Distance: 2.7726% / 0.02772581
78.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
13.2 Imperial_Roman
7.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
1.0 West_African

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
Distance: 2.4511% / 0.02451062
57.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
32.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
10.8 Imperial_Roman

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
Distance: 3.3067% / 0.03306732
64.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
21.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
14.8 Imperial_Roman

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
Distance: 2.4583% / 0.02458333
68.4 Celtic_&_Germanic
26.6 Imperial_Roman
5.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian

[Pedro Ruben]

Try my new Iberian calculator for scaled coordinates:


Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA,0.1242568,0.154699,0.0 555627,0.004522,0.0679613,-0.002417,-0.0025068,0.0038458,0.0341553,0.0550352,-0.0043032,0.0096663,-0.0209117,-0.0154367,0.0064918,0.0047733,0.0091053,0.0049197,-0.0011732,-0.002522,0.0091712,0.0056468,-0.0093462,-0.0190388,0.003752
Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Central_BA,0.1239044,0.1505886, 0.059639,0.0003691,0.0686281,-0.0074901,-0.0052371,-0.0001319,0.0395609,0.0550354,-0.0029926,0.01291,-0.0243167,-0.019621,0.0066116,0.0103233,0.0156089,-0.0004163,-0.0021549,0.0007146,0.0115154,-0.0001766,-0.0088561,-0.020261,0.0028397
Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA,0.1269128,0.157153 2,0.055625,-0.0073482,0.0667815,-0.006763,-0.0067562,0.0053652,0.048063,0.0672453,-0.0018675,0.0116522,-0.0258298,-0.0177187,0.005225,0.0056685,0.0052478,-0.0016785,0.0006285,0.0003122,0.0087348,0.001082,-0.0048685,-0.0211775,-0.0010475
Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian,0.131466, 0.127957,0.069956,0.049742,0.0423155,0.017431,0.00 2115,0.007038,0.0024545,0.003189,0.0011365,0.00277 25,-0.0139,-0.0152075,0.0168975,0.007425,0.0018905,0.006461,0. 0056565,-0.002251,0.0056775,0.00643,0.0094285,0.0101215,-0.0069455
Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian,0.1281142,0 .1294236,0.0681749,0.0618366,0.0366562,0.0195534,0 .0069459,0.0088458,0.0002728,-0.0021463,-0.0048718,0.009608,-0.0101914,-0.0155362,0.0242939,0.0120656,0.0019703,0.0065033, 0.002947,0.0051831,0.0056566,0.004053,0.0024102,0. 0136563,0.0015302
Celtic_&_Germanic:England_IA,0.1317503,0.1307495,0.0601505 ,0.0480462,0.0350832,0.0201498,0.0048175,0.0036922 ,0.0042438,0.0041915,-0.0044248,0.0057322,-0.0105175,-0.018476,0.0180167,0.0100438,0.001206,-6.33e-05,0.0033312,0.003908,0.0038995,0.000247,-0.0012018,0.0114172,0.0004493
Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.04 8773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.00132 95,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.14951 56,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
West_African,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
North_African:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224

Davidski told me Global25 isn't able to distinguish between different kinds of Northwestern European admixture, so i include them in "Celtic_&_Germanic", which will deal with all the Celtic and Germanic ancestry of Iberians.

This is how the Celtiberians score in my calculator:


Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3759
Distance: 1.8508% / 0.01850823
61.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
37.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
1.8 Imperial_Roman

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3758
Distance: 2.8157% / 0.02815746
56.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
42.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
0.8 North_African


This is how some Portuguese and Spanish score:


Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.7727% / 0.00772722
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic
19.8 Imperial_Roman
10.6 North_African

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926387
37.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
36.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.4 Imperial_Roman
9.2 North_African

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 0.9607% / 0.00960694
44.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian
31.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
20.8 Imperial_Roman
3.6 North_African

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.7727% / 0.00772722
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic
19.8 Imperial_Roman
10.6 North_African

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926387
37.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
36.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.4 Imperial_Roman
9.2 North_African

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 0.9607% / 0.00960694
44.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian
31.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
20.8 Imperial_Roman
3.6 North_African

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.0731% / 0.02073052
44.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
23.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.2 North_African
15.2 Imperial_Roman
1.2 West_African

[mitalit]

Try my new Iberian calculator for scaled coordinates:


Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA,0.1242568,0.154699,0.0 555627,0.004522,0.0679613,-0.002417,-0.0025068,0.0038458,0.0341553,0.0550352,-0.0043032,0.0096663,-0.0209117,-0.0154367,0.0064918,0.0047733,0.0091053,0.0049197,-0.0011732,-0.002522,0.0091712,0.0056468,-0.0093462,-0.0190388,0.003752
Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Central_BA,0.1239044,0.1505886, 0.059639,0.0003691,0.0686281,-0.0074901,-0.0052371,-0.0001319,0.0395609,0.0550354,-0.0029926,0.01291,-0.0243167,-0.019621,0.0066116,0.0103233,0.0156089,-0.0004163,-0.0021549,0.0007146,0.0115154,-0.0001766,-0.0088561,-0.020261,0.0028397
Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA,0.1269128,0.157153 2,0.055625,-0.0073482,0.0667815,-0.006763,-0.0067562,0.0053652,0.048063,0.0672453,-0.0018675,0.0116522,-0.0258298,-0.0177187,0.005225,0.0056685,0.0052478,-0.0016785,0.0006285,0.0003122,0.0087348,0.001082,-0.0048685,-0.0211775,-0.0010475
Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian,0.131466, 0.127957,0.069956,0.049742,0.0423155,0.017431,0.00 2115,0.007038,0.0024545,0.003189,0.0011365,0.00277 25,-0.0139,-0.0152075,0.0168975,0.007425,0.0018905,0.006461,0. 0056565,-0.002251,0.0056775,0.00643,0.0094285,0.0101215,-0.0069455
Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian,0.1281142,0 .1294236,0.0681749,0.0618366,0.0366562,0.0195534,0 .0069459,0.0088458,0.0002728,-0.0021463,-0.0048718,0.009608,-0.0101914,-0.0155362,0.0242939,0.0120656,0.0019703,0.0065033, 0.002947,0.0051831,0.0056566,0.004053,0.0024102,0. 0136563,0.0015302
Celtic_&_Germanic:England_IA,0.1317503,0.1307495,0.0601505 ,0.0480462,0.0350832,0.0201498,0.0048175,0.0036922 ,0.0042438,0.0041915,-0.0044248,0.0057322,-0.0105175,-0.018476,0.0180167,0.0100438,0.001206,-6.33e-05,0.0033312,0.003908,0.0038995,0.000247,-0.0012018,0.0114172,0.0004493
Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.04 8773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.00132 95,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.14951 56,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
West_African,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
North_African:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224

Davidski told me Global25 isn't able to distinguish between different kinds of Northwestern European admixture, so i include them in "Celtic_&_Germanic", which will deal with all the Celtic and Germanic ancestry of Iberians.

This is how the Celtiberians score in my calculator:


Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3759
Distance: 1.8508% / 0.01850823
61.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
37.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
1.8 Imperial_Roman

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3758
Distance: 2.8157% / 0.02815746
56.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
42.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
0.8 North_African


This is how some Portuguese and Spanish score:


Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.7727% / 0.00772722
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic
19.8 Imperial_Roman
10.6 North_African

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926387
37.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
36.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.4 Imperial_Roman
9.2 North_African

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 0.9607% / 0.00960694
44.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian
31.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
20.8 Imperial_Roman
3.6 North_African

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.7727% / 0.00772722
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic
19.8 Imperial_Roman
10.6 North_African

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926387
37.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
36.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian
16.4 Imperial_Roman
9.2 North_African

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 0.9607% / 0.00960694
44.0 Iberian_&_Tartessian
31.6 Celtic_&_Germanic
20.8 Imperial_Roman
3.6 North_African

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2236% / 0.02223645
49.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
26.6 Iberian_&_Tartessian
17.2 Imperial_Roman
7.2 North_African

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2587% / 0.02258680 | ADC: 0.25x
47.4 Celtic_&_Germanic
29.2 Iberian_&_Tartessian
18.0 Imperial_Roman
5.4 North_African

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Damião_de_Góis
Distance: 2.1276% / 0.02127571
35.4 Celtic_&_Germanic
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
20.6 Imperial_Roman
7.4 North_African
1.2 West_African

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7877% / 0.01787658
47.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
34.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
15.2 Imperial_Roman
2.6 North_African

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7877% / 0.01787685
39.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA
34.2 Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA
15.2 Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
7.8 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA
2.6 North_African:Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.4 Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8579% / 0.01857894 | ADC: 0.25x
53.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
30.0 Celtic_&_Germanic
15.0 Imperial_Roman
1.6 North_African

[SilverKnight]

My Eurogenes K47 Report

Population Percentage
Andean 8.17%
Meso Amerind 6.97%
Amazonian 2.89%
East Asian 6.04%
Proto Austronesian 2.69%
Tibeto Burman 1.98%
Indo Chinese 1.02%
North Iberian 5.45%
Celtic 5.33%
Central Mediterranean 5.25%
Baltic 5.05%
East Mediterranean 4.24%
Paleo Balkan 3.57%
Volgan 3.57%
East Iberian 3.50%
West Mediterranean 2.32%
East European 1.40%
North Sea Germanic 0.15%
North African 1.91%
Arabic 1.07%
North Caucasian 0.12%
South Caucasian 0.10%
West African 20.97%
South African Hunter Gatherer 1.23%
Kushitic 1.19%
East African Hunter Gatherer 1.13%
Central African Hunter Gatherer 1.08%
Sahelian 1.05%
Omotic 0.58%


Race Percentage
Caucasoid 43.03%
SSA 27.23%
Mongoloid 29.76%

Subrace Percentage
Euro 39.83%
MENA 3.20%
Amerindian 18.03%
East Asian 11.73%
SSA 27.23%

Como obtengo esos resultados? donde?

[PT Tagus]

Target: Damião_de_Góis
Distance: 2.1276% / 0.02127571
35.4 Celtic_&_Germanic
35.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
20.6 Imperial_Roman
7.4 North_African
1.2 West_African

Parecido :lol:

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.9901% / 0.01990088
32.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
31.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
24.8 Imperial_Roman
8.6 North_African
2.4 West_African


Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.07260544 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA
0.07882293 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Central_BA
0.08205829 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA
0.09077524 Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09286644 Celtic_&_Germanic:England_IA
0.09407429 Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.09835470 Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
0.10733315 Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.17898657 North_African:Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.72469936 West_African

[Raizen]

Parecido :lol:

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.9901% / 0.01990088
32.8 Celtic_&_Germanic
31.4 Iberian_&_Tartessian
24.8 Imperial_Roman
8.6 North_African
2.4 West_African

Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.07260544 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA
0.07882293 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Central_BA
0.08205829 Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA
0.09077524 Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09286644 Celtic_&_Germanic:England_IA
0.09407429 Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.09835470 Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
0.10733315 Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.17898657 North_African:Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.72469936 West_African

you are slightly south shifted/more roman.

[Rocinante]

Como obtengo esos resultados? donde?

En yourdnaportal.com

[gixajo]

En yourdnaportal.com

No lo cojo, por qué le dices eso?

[gixajo]

Visigoths in my new calculator:

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Which one calculator?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

[1] "distance%=2.9654"

Viriato_scaled

Iberian_&_Tartessian,44.2
Celtic_&_Germanic,29
Imperial_Roman,21.2
North_African,4.4
West_African,1.2


[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"

Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_North_BA 6.496996

Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Central_BA 7.149488

Iberian_&_Tartessian:Iberia_Southeast_BA 7.350097

Celtic_&_Germanic:DEU_MA 8.529823

Celtic_&_Germanic:England_IA 8.608769

Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian 9.137754

Imperial_Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial 9.873539

Celtic_&_Germanic:ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian 10.189020

[Raizen]

Which one calculator?

The calculator i just posted. I was thinking of doing a calculator for Iberians using the visigoths but they give unrealistic results (+25% for majority of iberians), perphaps because of the problem i cited (Global25 can't differentiate Celtic from Germanic), so i abandoned it.

[Raizen]

[1] "distance%=2.9654"

Viriato_scaled

Iberian_&_Tartessian,44.2
Celtic_&_Germanic,29
Imperial_Roman,21.2
North_African,4.4
West_African,1.2

Quite a lot of iberii. Interesting to see the individual variation in Iberia. Some people seems more roman, others more germanic and others more native iberian.

[Rocinante]

No lo cojo, por qué le dices eso?

No te entiendo compadre, dije algo malo? xD

[gixajo]

No te entiendo compadre, dije algo malo? xD

Nada, que no me entero, pensé que preguntaba por los resultados del G25, no ví que preguntaba por el k47. :picard1:

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Quite a lot of iberii. Interesting to see the individual variation in Iberia. Some people seems more roman, others more germanic and others more native iberian.

I did with nMonte. Here is other Portuguese members's results with your calculator on R:


[1] "distance%=2.4184"

Damiao_Scaled

Iberian_&_Tartessian,42.8
Celtic_&_Germanic,32.4
Imperial_Roman,18.8
North_African,3.6
West_African,2.4


[1] "distance%=2.8284"

rxavierflima23_scaled

Iberian_&_Tartessian,38.8
Celtic_&_Germanic,36.6
Imperial_Roman,18.8
North_African,5.8



[1] "distance%=2.2352"

Pai_Lusitano_scaled

Celtic_&_Germanic,38.2
Iberian_&_Tartessian,37.6
Imperial_Roman,17.6
North_African,4.6
West_African,2



[1] "distance%=2.7178"

Trebaruna_scaled

Iberian_&_Tartessian,52.2
Celtic_&_Germanic,29.8
Imperial_Roman,10.2
North_African,5.6
West_African,2.2

As you can see at least among Portuguese members we do not differ that much.

[Luso]

wish I could do this but still waiting for my G25 cord

[gixajo]

wish I could do this but still waiting for my G25 cord

Cuidado, é muito viciante.:picard1:

uma vez que você começa você vai fazer mesmo as calculadoras balcânicas.

[Pedro Ruben]

Cuidado, é muito viciante.:picard1:

uma vez que você começa você vai fazer mesmo as calculadoras balcânicas.

Simmmm.... sem dúvida... mesmo as calculadoras balcânicas :cool: :p

[Luso]

Simmmm.... sem dúvida... mesmo as calculadoras balcânicas :cool: :p

eu vou ficar obcecado Hahaha

[Pedro Ruben]

eu vou ficar obcecado Hahaha

Sim, é viciante :p

[mitalit]

Hoja de cálculo con el tamaño de nuestras pollas, quiero decir color de ojos y piel. Tengo pensado compartirlo con el resto del foro, sería buena idea con tanto psicópata obsesivo y con evidentes problemas mentales?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yqIG1PX2Ra_J5uuHMGkKR4Di4fnbud45uiZUZuwrpE/edit?usp=sharing

Como de comun es para un español no sacar AA, GG, CC? Me da la sensación de que es muy difícil no sacar eso.

[gixajo]

Como de comun es para un español no sacar AA, GG, CC? Me da la sensación de que es muy difícil no sacar eso.

Igual es que los españoles de aquí somos más raros que un perro verde y ninguno representamos el tipo medio.

[mitalit]

Igual es que los españoles de aquí somos más raros que un perro verde y ninguno representamos el tipo medio.

Puede ser, a ver si mas españoles lo ponen.

[gixajo]

Puede ser, a ver si mas españoles lo ponen.
De lo de los ojos y eso no sé quienes faltan.

De resultados genéticos en general no sabemos nada que yo sepa de...Duffman, Gota_type, Autrigón, pericolez, CV...la vieja guardia, el resto creo que vamos todos poniendo resultados.

Y los de la vieja guardia me pica la curiosidad sobre todos y cada uno de ellos.No sé si me olvido de alguno.

[mitalit]

De lo de los ojos y eso no sé quienes faltan.

De resultados genéticos en general no sabemos nada que yo sepa de...Duffman, Gota_type, Autrigón, pericolez, CV...la vieja guardia, el resto creo que vamos todos poniendo resultados.

Y los de la vieja guardia me pica la curiosidad sobre todos y cada uno de ellos.No sé si me olvido de alguno.

Bueno Gota_type ha puesto algun resultado creo, y también ha puesto lo de los ojos. Los demás creo que no tienen pruebas de adn

[gixajo]

Bueno Gota_type ha puesto algun resultado creo, y también ha puesto lo de los ojos. Los demás creo que no tienen pruebas de adn

Viendo los resultados de la gente nueva que ha añadido sus datos, la verdad es que no sé como valorar el tono de mi piel o el color de ojos, queda un poco raro lo de "strange dark hazel", era una broma porque pensé que la tabla era solo para los de casa, y suena muy poco preciso. :picard1:

[mitalit]

Viendo los resultados de la gente nueva que ha añadido sus datos, la verdad es que no sé como valorar el tono de mi piel o el color de ojos, queda un poco raro lo de "strange dark hazel", era una broma porque pensé que la tabla era solo para los de casa, y suena muy poco preciso. :picard1:

Yo creo que tus ojos son marrones, curiosos pero marrones, lo de la piel todos han puesto light así que no se muy bien que significa

[gixajo]

Yo creo que tus ojos son marrones, curiosos pero marrones, lo de la piel todos han puesto light así que no se muy bien que significa

si, si mas era por lo de quitar lo de "strange".

Lo de la piel lo digo porque debe haber alguna escala para medir los tonos, porque digo yo que la chica irlandesa esa y yo por ejemplo, no tenemos el mismo tono de piel, y los dos tenemos puesto light.

[mitalit]

si, si mas era por lo de quitar lo de "strange".

Lo de la piel lo digo porque debe haber alguna escala para medir los tonos, porque digo yo que la chica irlandesa esa y yo por ejemplo, no tenemos el mismo tono de piel, y los dos tenemos puesto light.

Es complicado, igual lo que consideramos light en españa en Suecia no lo es . Al final cada uno se percibe de una manera

[gixajo]

Si quereis ver si estáis más cerca de los franceses o de los escandinavos:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320595-Are-you-closer-to-France-or-Scandinavia

Según eso tengo más cercanía genética con Francia que mi amigo de Quebec, que su padre y que su madre.:picard2:

Bueno, su padre está más cerca de la muestra francófona Belga que yo de la muestra occitana, pero por poquito... 0.0287 y yo 0.0288

Habría que poner esta calculadora en el thread aquel donde me acusaban de pretender "penosamente" relacionar a los españoles con los franceses.

Eso y todos los resultados del padre Francés del occitano ese que es más Ibérico que todos los peninsulares del foro juntos.

Por supuesto, nada de eso demostraría nada de nada para ninguno de los que me llevaban la contraria. Nada demuestra nada nunca, más lo que les interesa y cuando les interesa.

Me sigo acordando de Gaska, al que acusaban de intentar relacionar a los Ibéricos con los Británicos.

[gixajo]

Que bueno lo de tus resultados.Me parto.

[gixajo]

Me voy a sobar, que tengo que descansar de tantas horas de ordenador.

Se supone que mañana tenía que trabajar un poco, tengo montones de cosas acumuladas de este mes, y voy a empezar a quitarme lo que pueda.

[mitalit]

Que bueno lo de tus resultados.Me parto.

Al final vamos a ser mas franceses que el frances que no nos deja opinar de francia jaja. Yo creo que mis resultados son raros porque no vienen de ningún sitio de esos. Tendre que hacerles una prueba de adn a mis padres

[Rocinante]

De lo de los ojos y eso no sé quienes faltan.

De resultados genéticos en general no sabemos nada que yo sepa de...Duffman, Gota_type, Autrigón, pericolez, CV...la vieja guardia, el resto creo que vamos todos poniendo resultados.

Y los de la vieja guardia me pica la curiosidad sobre todos y cada uno de ellos.No sé si me olvido de alguno.

Yo voy a hablar seriamente, yo tambien quiero saber los resultados de algunos de esos que nombraste, pero Gota, al pertenecer a La Vieja Guardia, no va incluido en la lista porque si no te has fijado ya ha montado varios resultados, y haplogrupos tambien, o sea que lo que diga, se justifica de cierta manera, no es un alien.

Para el resto, repito, MyHeritage tiene un descuentazo tremendo en kits, pasense y compren el kit, saludos.

[Rocinante]

Si me refería más bien a que al margen de que las ciudades sean la combinación de gentes del entorno rural, también han sido el lugar preferencial para determinados colectivos que hacen que las estadísticas se mezclen mucho más que en los pueblos, ya q ha sido en las ciudades donde ha habido asentamientos de gitanos, judíos, musulmanes, y no tanto en los pueblos. Es decir, el 80-90% de los pueblos se conservan más "puros" mientras que la mayoría de las capitales son mezclas de eso mismo y otras inmigraciones interiores más otras etnias históricas.

Y sí, hay poblamientos visigodos en bastantes zonas, pero hay algunas zonas donde el asentamiento fue más concentrado (zonas a lo largo del río Duero) y sobre todo el que hasta hace solo 1 siglo a Tierra de Campos se le llamaba Campos Góticos, precisamente porque allí hubo una gran concentración. Y decía lo de q sorprenderá a los guiris q hacen los mapas no porque sean "racistas" (no pueden serlo pues pertenecemos a la misma raza aunque haya un % de obtusos q lo quieran negar, cosa q es irrelevante) sino porque tienen tendencia alguno a mal interpretar convenientemente conceptos: como que España es solo "Med", o como que el que haya sangre supuestamente norteafricana es por la invasión musulmana y no lo que la Historia y Arqueología apunta: pobladores de "España" que emigraron en épocas prehistóricas al norte de Africa y q luego asignan a esos genes de "españoles" prehistóricos la categoría de norte-africanos, haciendo la carambola de considerar esos genes como norteafricanos para los españoles actuales.

Tio, mira este articulo: https://www.elidealgallego.com/articulo/area-metropolitana/carballo-las-mujeres-costa-da-morte-proceden-linaje-autoctono-71-ciento/20140501233139186634.html

Una de las cosas mas interesantes que dice, y me parece curioso porque tu como gallego y yo como gallego-descendiente, sacamos los mismos componentes:


Según su ADN las mujeres de la Costa da Morte son en un 71% “galaicas”, originarias del suroeste de Europa y concretamente del noroeste de España, de la zona que abarca la actual región gallega. Descienden del nicho poblacional que quedó al abrigo de la cordillera cantábrica tras las glaciaciones y por tanto son una de las poblaciones más antiguas de Europa. En un 17% tienen un rastro genético norteafricano (¿ibero?). Un 6% procede del área germánica del este de Europa, en este caso en relación a la importante marca de los suevos, asentados en Galicia desde el 411. En un 6% aparece un rastro de la llamada región “finish Volga-Ural”, o también vieja Europa (Ucrania, Rusia), asiento de poblaciones arias que viajaron hasta los oestes europeos en la Prehistoria.

Tu sacas volga-ural en el k36 y k47 no? Y fennoscandian, como yo tambien, bueno, pues fijate que curioso.

[gixajo]

Yo voy a hablar seriamente, yo tambien quiero saber los resultados de algunos de esos que nombraste, pero Gota, al pertenecer a La Vieja Guardia, no va incluido en la lista porque si no te has fijado ya ha montado varios resultados, y haplogrupos tambien, o sea que lo que diga, se justifica de cierta manera, no es un alien.

Para el resto, repito, MyHeritage tiene un descuentazo tremendo en kits, pasense y compren el kit, saludos.

A mí todavía no me han llegado los kits de mis padres.

Sí, ví que Gota_type había puesto sus resultados, pero no me sonaba ver resultados suyos, supongo que como es un miembro más antiguo postearía todo hace tiempo, antes de que entrara yo.

[SilverKnight]

My Eurogenes K47 Report



Kushitic 0.38%
North Iberian 7.16%
East Iberian 6.62%
Tibeto Burman 0.30%
North African 6.11%
Paleo Balkan 5.40%
Scando Germanic 6.94%
Baltic 0.10%
Nilotic 3.02%
East Mediterranean 4.77%
Omotic 0.04%
Munda 0.07%
Arabic 3.36%
East European 3.49%
Andean 1.47%
North Sea Germanic 0.04%
Celtic 3.19%
Sahelian 0.93%
Amazonian 1.00%
Malay 0.67%
Meso Amerind 3.26%
Papuan 0.68%
West Mediterranean 2.13%
Pamirian 1.51%
Central Mediterranean 1.24%
West African 29.59%
Central African Hunter Gatherer 3.27%
East African Hunter Gatherer 1.90%
South African Hunter Gatherer 1.29%
Amuro Manchurian 0.08%

Caucasoid 50.90%
Euro: 39.84%
SSA: 36.16%
MENA: 12.87%
Amerind/ East Asia: 5.91%


Should I post my other Eurogenes results?
Que opinan ustdes de estos resultados?

[SilverKnight]

K7

https://i.imgur.com/jZuYhfb.png
https://i.imgur.com/q59gkpn.png

K8

https://i.imgur.com/JfibEwO.png
https://i.imgur.com/U8MbTvU.png

[Rocinante]

My Eurogenes K47 Report



Kushitic 0.38%
North Iberian 7.16%
East Iberian 6.62%
Tibeto Burman 0.30%
North African 6.11%
Paleo Balkan 5.40%
Scando Germanic 6.94%
Baltic 0.10%
Nilotic 3.02%
East Mediterranean 4.77%
Omotic 0.04%
Munda 0.07%
Arabic 3.36%
East European 3.49%
Andean 1.47%
North Sea Germanic 0.04%
Celtic 3.19%
Sahelian 0.93%
Amazonian 1.00%
Malay 0.67%
Meso Amerind 3.26%
Papuan 0.68%
West Mediterranean 2.13%
Pamirian 1.51%
Central Mediterranean 1.24%
West African 29.59%
Central African Hunter Gatherer 3.27%
East African Hunter Gatherer 1.90%
South African Hunter Gatherer 1.29%
Amuro Manchurian 0.08%

Caucasoid 50.90%
Euro: 39.84%
SSA: 36.16%
MENA: 12.87%
Amerind/ East Asia: 5.91%


Should I post my other Eurogenes results?
Que opinan ustdes de estos resultados?

Tu parte blanca de casualidad es gallega?

[gixajo]

Es complicado, igual lo que consideramos light en españa en Suecia no lo es . Al final cada uno se percibe de una manera

Liante!!!

La verdad es que me hice el vahaduo ese con un poco de reparo, tenía dudas de que saldría.

:rotfl:

[mitalit]

Liante!!!

La verdad es que me hice el vahaduo ese con un poco de reparo, tenía dudas de que saldría.

:rotfl:

A mi la verdad me sorprende que estemos mas cerca

[gixajo]

A mi la verdad me sorprende que estemos mas cerca

Yo antes de hacerme el primer test y empezar a entrar a este foro, igual que el portugués dijo, pensaba que estaríamos más cerca de los marroquíes, pero desde que estoy aquí voy dejando de pensar así.

Pero bueno, tampoco esto es ninguna prueba concluyente de nada. Aunque ya son unas cuantas cosas las que apuntan hacia eso...

[mitalit]

Yo antes de hacerme el primer test y empezar a entrar a este foro, igual que el portugués dijo, pensaba que estaríamos más cerca de los marroquíes, pero desde que estoy aquí voy dejando de pensar así.

Pero bueno, tampoco esto es ninguna prueba concluyente de nada. Aunque ya son unas cuantas cosas las que apuntan hacia eso...

Se esta creando un debate feo

[gixajo]

Se esta creando un debate feo

No es culpa tuya, pero era de esperar, cualquier cosa aquí puede desencadenar algo así, ya sabemos como es la gente aquí.

Echo en falta la participación de más gente, a ver que les sale...

[mitalit]

No es culpa tuya, pero era de esperar, cualquier cosa aquí puede desencadenar algo así, ya sabemos como es la gente aquí.

Echo en falta la participación de más gente, a ver que les sale...
He puesto este vídeo para caldear el ambiente, se puede ver como un ataque racista a españoles o como a dos ingleses borrachos insultando a gente que le saca dos cabezas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwWa1lS82zY

[gixajo]

He puesto este vídeo para caldear el ambiente, se puede ver como un ataque racista a españoles o como a dos ingleses borrachos insultando a gente que le saca dos cabezas
eo]

No sé hasta que punto eso es un ataque racista porque no sé que originó el asunto, hay un moruno bastante más exótico delante y no se meten con él.

En cuanto a los insultos, no los cojo bien, pero en cualquier pelea uno usa insultos random, incluidos insultos relacionados con el origen del tío insultado.

Los tíos no sé si son españoles o de donde, pero son bastante grandes.

[SilverKnight]

Tu parte blanca de casualidad es gallega?

La mayoria es andalusiana, seguido por gallega, y Cantabria.

[PT Tagus]

No es culpa tuya, pero era de esperar, cualquier cosa aquí puede desencadenar algo así, ya sabemos como es la gente aquí.

Echo en falta la participación de más gente, a ver que les sale...

Quien inició el desagradable debate fue Nassbean con su provocativa publicación.

"The dream thread of all southern europeans"

No es algo que llene el ego de los europeos del sur, el hecho de que están más cerca de los suecos que de los marroquíes. Es perfectamente natural.

[Rocinante]

De parte de mama (su padre) si

Tiene sentido.


Quien inició el desagradable debate fue Nassbean con su provocativa publicación.

"The dream thread of all southern europeans"

Tienes razón.

[SilverKnight]

Tiene sentido.





Porque lo dices??

[Defcon2]

Bixajo aún no te ha llegao el kit?

[Rocinante]

Bixajo aún no te ha llegao el kit?

A mi me tienen desde hace 1 semana en la ultima fase de actualización de salud, a ver si me dan la raw data porfin y me entero que soy superior DF27

[Rocinante]

Porque lo dices??

Por el scando-germanic que lo tienes altico.

[Defcon2]

A mi me tienen desde hace 1 semana en la ultima fase de actualización de salud, a ver si me dan la raw data porfin y me entero que soy superior DF27

No te tienes que volver hacer la prueba otra vez? me parece raro que mágicamente sepan tu haplogrupo especifico cuando no lo testearon en su momento.

[gixajo]

Bixajo aún no te ha llegao el kit?

No, Beefcon2, aún no ha llegado.Esperaba que llegaran ayer.

[Rocinante]

No te tienes que volver hacer la prueba otra vez? me parece raro que mágicamente sepan tu haplogrupo cuando no lo testearon en su momento.

No no, es que a en tu raw data, a ti te testan los SNP del cromosoma Y, lo que pasa es que al menos 23andme se toma la molestia de ponertelo, pero en Myheritage también. Myheritage pide 2 muestras de saliva, estan testeando mi segunda con una actualización de SALUD que pague.

[Defcon2]

No, Beefcon2, aún no ha llegado.Esperaba que llegaran ayer.

;) :D


No no, es que a en tu raw data, a ti te testan los SNP del cromosoma Y, lo que pasa es que al menos 23andme se toma la molestia de ponertelo, pero en Myheritage también. Myheritage pide 2 muestras de saliva, estan testeando mi segunda con una actualización de SALUD que pague.

De ahí que te hagan hacer dos veces la recolección de isótopos son pillos, pero no pensé que fuese para eso sino por si hubiese algún problema. Criogenizan la saliva por si acaso y el cliente decide hacerse alguna otra prueba o qué?

[Rocinante]

;) :D



De ahí que te hagan hacer dos veces la recolección de isótopos son pillos, pero no pensé que fuese para eso sino por si hubiese algún problema. Criogenizan la saliva por si acaso y el cliente decide hacerse alguna otra prueba o qué?

No lo sé, fue curioso cuando hace 2 años me llego el kit y vi 2 frascos, no le di mucha importancia, pero lo cierto es que ellos lo piden así por si quieres actualizar a la Health upgrade. Ellos supongo que la criogenizan, pero ya ambas muestras que les mande, estan usadas, así que eso sería mi despedida con MH. Igualmente lo último que necesito saber es mi subclado, y ya está.

[gixajo]

No no, es que a en tu raw data, a ti te testan los SNP del cromosoma Y, lo que pasa es que al menos 23andme se toma la molestia de ponertelo, pero en Myheritage también. Myheritage pide 2 muestras de saliva, estan testeando mi segunda con una actualización de SALUD que pague.

A ver que no me entero bien, sin tener que volver a mandar nuevas muestras de saliva, con la actualización de salud te dan también el subclado del haplotipo Y en MH?

[Rocinante]

A ver que no me entero bien, sin tener que volver a mandar nuevas muestras de saliva, con la actualización de salud te dan también el subclado del haplotipo Y en MH?

No, a ver, a ti te dieron dos pequeños frascos para poner la saliva no? Ellos usan uno, y guardan el segundo. Yo como cuando me testearon MH todavía usaba un chip super mierda pues me daban solo 480 Y SNP, y solo llegue a R1b, pero buscandolo yo manualmente o con el Morley. Ahora MH usa el chip illumina que es muchiiiisimo mas decente y es el que usan para los reportes de salud, creo que es idéntico al que tienes tú, y para eso, usan la otra muestra que tu les das, junto a la primera.

[gixajo]

Bixajo aún no te ha llegao el kit?

https://i.imgur.com/dWRzH84.png

https://i.imgur.com/mMiWNpq.png

Está tardando bastante la verdad, espero que una vez hecho y enviado sea tan rápido como la vez anterior.

Tenía la esperanza de que fuera más rápido por aquello que leí sobre un americano y su test de 23andme, pero claro, era dentro de EEUU, esto viene y va por varios países.

Bueno ya veremos como va la cosa, en cualquier momento lo traerán a casa.

[gixajo]

No, a ver, a ti te dieron dos pequeños frascos para poner la saliva no? Ellos usan uno, y guardan el segundo. Yo como cuando me testearon MH todavía usaba un chip super mierda pues me daban solo 480 Y SNP, y solo llegue a R1b, pero buscandolo yo manualmente o con el Morley. Ahora MH usa el chip illumina que es muchiiiisimo mas decente y es el que usan para los reportes de salud, creo que es idéntico al que tienes tú, y para eso, usan la otra muestra que tu les das, junto a la primera.

Ah vale, osea que tu has cogido la actualización de salud para que usando una de las muestras que ellos se guardan, vuelvan a hacerte el análisis con el nuevo chip, y tener un raw data mejor, que te permitirá usarlo para que tú mismo busques tu haplogrupo algo más preciso con el método ese que usas.

¿Es eso?

[Rocinante]

Ah vale, osea que tu has cogido la actualización de salud para que usando una de las muestras que ellos se guardan, vuelvan a hacerte el análisis con el nuevo chip, y tener un raw data mejor, que te permitirá usarlo para que tú mismo busques tu haplogrupo algo más preciso con el método ese que usas.

¿Es eso?

Mejor explicado, imposible, querido amigo. Eso es justo lo que quiero, ademas que le sacaré provecho a las pruebas de salud, claro esta.

[Defcon2]

https://i.imgur.com/dWRzH84.png

https://i.imgur.com/mMiWNpq.png

Está tardando bastante la verdad, espero que una vez hecho y enviado sea tan rápido como la vez anterior.

Tenía la esperanza de que fuera más rápido por aquello que leí sobre un americano y su test de 23andme, pero claro, era dentro de EEUU, esto viene y va por varios países.

Bueno ya veremos como va la cosa, en cualquier momento lo traerán a casa.

Lo más seguro es que te llegue mañana por la mañana, está avanzado.

[gixajo]

Lo más seguro es que te llegue mañana por la mañana, está avanzado.

Tampoco descarto que me llegue esta tarde, no sería la primera vez que algo me llega por la tarde.

Iré buscando las tarifas para comprar el sello, no creo que haya cambiado.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Que kit é que mandaste vir gixajo?

[SilverKnight]

Por el scando-germanic que lo tienes altico.

A si el factor visigodo debe de ser,

A cuanto tienes el tuyo?

[mitalit]

de quien estáis mas cerca? creéis que si hago un hilo de esto alguien se cabreara? Mi idea es que sea como el de finlandia y españa, pero seguro que alguien empieza a meter mierda y lo ultimo que quiero es ofender a los griegos
https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/



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