Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Ion Basescul]

You gave me an idea to look at the results regionally.


NE + NW Europe = Baltic + North Atlantic (Baltic peaks in Lithuanians at 54%, Atlantic in West Scottish at 53%)

East + West Med (In Europe, East Med peaks in South Italians at 30% and Cypriots at 41%; West Med peaks in Sardinians at 52%)

NW Asia/Caucasus = West Asian (peaks in Abkhasians at 54%)

SW Asia/Arabia = Red Sea (peaks in Saudis at 34%)

East Asia/Siberia = East Asian + Siberian + Amerindian

India (self-explanatory)

5) East Asia/Siberia

https://i.imgur.com/qTTW7cu.png?1

[Ion Basescul]

You gave me an idea to look at the results regionally.


NE + NW Europe = Baltic + North Atlantic (Baltic peaks in Lithuanians at 54%, Atlantic in West Scottish at 53%)

East + West Med (In Europe, East Med peaks in South Italians at 30% and Cypriots at 41%; West Med peaks in Sardinians at 52%)

NW Asia/Caucasus = West Asian (peaks in Abkhasians at 54%)

SW Asia/Arabia = Red Sea (peaks in Saudis at 34%)

East Asia/Siberia = East Asian + Siberian + Amerindian

India (self-explanatory)

6) India

https://i.imgur.com/ppcoaKV.png?1

[Jana]

I think as a general rule, swarthy people live near mountain ranges

Not always, in northern Italy more wog and meddish population lives in Padanian plain, while lighter and more northern shifted groups are in the Alps.

[Coastal Elite]

Not always, in northern Italy more wog and meddish population lives in Padanian plain, while lighter and more northern shifted groups are in the Alps.

True, true. It's an interesting pattern though.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

6) India

https://i.imgur.com/ppcoaKV.png?1

This is actually really cool

[ixulescu]

So no Tara Romaneasca as you insisted, but Tara Rumaneasca. There is a massive difference between ruman and the roman. Roman being a fabricated ethnonym that entered popular use in the second half of the 19 century.
You would be shocked travelling in time and realizing what being ruman meant. Calling yourself ruman meant asking to be whipped and put to work in the fields.

Oh yeah?

The official seal of Petru Rares, a 16th century Moldovan ruler, reads like this "Печать ио Романа воевода Земле Молдавской" meaning "the seal of the Romanian Voivode of the Moldovan Country". Did he time travel to 19th century? And was he calling himself a serf?? you're desperately trying to distort the historical truth just prop your worthless ideology.




It was Tara Rumaneasca or Tara Munteneasca - Muntenia or Tara Basarabeasca - Basarabia or Ungrovlahia or Valahia or Transalpina and several other names. Moldova on the other hand was Moldova and still is despite the efforts of Romanians to erase its name.

No it wasn't. The name "Moldova" also had a mostly internal use. Ottomans, who at that time were the suzerains of Moldova, used to call it Boğdan, or even funnier Kuçuk-Eflak, meaning Little Wallachia. Poles, who were also sometimes suzerains in Moldova would call Moldovan rulers Wallachian princes. Polish medieval chronicler Leonard Goreck refers to Ioan Voda cel Cumplit, a Moldovan ruler, "Palatini Valachiae" meaning Wallachian Prince, and would often call various Moldovan personalities as Wallachian, which they obviously were.

[Aspirin]

The official seal of Petru Rares, a 16th century Moldovan ruler, reads like this "Печать ио Романа воевода Земле Молдавской" meaning "the seal of the Romanian Voivode of the Moldovan Country".

https://media.giphy.com/media/jh2By0RRzHeCs/giphy.gif

[ixulescu]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jh2By0RRzHeCs/giphy.gif

haha painful isn't it? moldovenism is a piece of crap

[Aspirin]

haha painful isn't it? moldovenism is a piece of crap

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/a7/c5/30a7c59586ba505ac5b0b4e975526a94.gif

[ixulescu]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/a7/c5/30a7c59586ba505ac5b0b4e975526a94.gif

Listen, I have nothing against RM being a separate country, as long as it's not a Russian domain and Moldovan history is told without distorting the history of Romania and Romanians.

[Leto]

Listen, I have nothing against RM being a separate country, as long as it's not a Russian domain and Moldovan history is told without distorting the history of Romania and Romanians.
Are you Russophobic?
Why would you even care if you live in America?
I've talked to Aspirin, he's neither pro nor anti-Russian. Believe me, you don't have be either for or against a country in most cases.

[ixulescu]

Are you Russophobic?
Why would you even care if you live in America?
I've talked to Aspirin, he's neither pro nor anti-Russian. Believe me, you don't have be either for or against a country in most cases.

I'm both Russophobic and Russophilic :D

I like Russians but I dislike Russia's external policies.

[Aspirin]

Listen, I have nothing against RM being a separate country, as long as it's not a Russian domain and Moldovan history is told without distorting the history of Romania and Romanians.

Just don't violate Moldavian history with your interpretations.

[ixulescu]

Just don't violate Moldavian history with your interpretations.

Moldovans were Romanians until 1812. Beside Moldovan they used to call themselves Romanian or Wallachian.

If you can't accept this basic fact then fuck off.

[Aspirin]

Moldovans were Romanians until 1812. Beside Moldovan they used to call themselves Romanian or Wallachian.

If you can't accept this basic fact then fuck off.

Nobody called herself Wallachian here, or even Romanian, totally alien words for a local peasant.

[ixulescu]

Nobody called herself Wallachian here, or even Romanian, totally alien words for a local peasant.

Are you dumb? Wallachian is an exonym. Everyone (outside Moldova and Wallachia) called Moldovans Wallachians. Even the founders of Moldova were called Wallachians.

Moldovans used both Moldovan and Romanian to refer to themselves, there are countless accounts for either one.

[Aspirin]

Are you dumb? Wallachian is an exonym. Everyone (outside Moldova and Wallachia) called Moldovans Wallachians. Even the founders of Moldova were called Wallachians.

Moldovans used both Moldovan and Romanian to refer to themselves, there are countless accounts for either one.

Why Moldavians don't call themselves Romanians?

[Ion Basescul]

Why Moldavians don't call themselves Romanians?

A lot do, especially in Chisinau and even more think that Moldovan and Romanian are synonyms. Unfortunately the census doesn't do the latter justice.

https://statistica.gov.md/public/files/Recensamint/Recensamint_pop_2014/Rezultate/Harti/Etnie.jpg

[Mik20]

Oh yeah?

The official seal of Petru Rares, a 16th century Moldovan ruler, reads like this "Печать ио Романа воевода Земле Молдавской" meaning "the seal of the Romanian Voivode of the Moldovan Country". Did he time travel to 19th century? And was he calling himself a serf?? you're desperately trying to distort the historical truth just prop your worthless ideology.


ha ha ha. Seal of Petru Rares? "Peceatî io Romana voevoda Zemle Moldavscoi" Russian for "Seal of io Roman, voivode of the Moldavian Land". Roman was the fourth ruler of Moldavia, the grandson of the great Bogdan, the father of the Moldavian state. Roman was originally a greek name, but later it was used almost exclusively by the ortodox slavs.


No it wasn't. The name "Moldova" also had a mostly internal use. Ottomans, who at that time were the suzerains of Moldova, used to call it Boğdan, or even funnier Kuçuk-Eflak, meaning Little Wallachia. Poles, who were also sometimes suzerains in Moldova would call Moldovan rulers Wallachian princes. Polish medieval chronicler Leonard Goreck refers to Ioan Voda cel Cumplit, a Moldovan ruler, "Palatini Valachiae" meaning Wallachian Prince, and would often call various Moldovan personalities as Wallachian, which they obviously were.

You missed the point, Moldavians called Moldova - Moldova (sometimes with the latinized form Moldavia), while valahians called their supposed country as Ungrovlahia, Tara Munteneasca, Valahia and Tara Rumaneasca. That's four names. Also moldavians used Moldova as the name of the country even when they were writing in other languages while valahians were calling on occasions their country Transalpina when writing in latin, for example.

[Mik20]

Moldovans were Romanians until 1812. Beside Moldovan they used to call themselves Romanian or Wallachian.

If you can't accept this basic fact then fuck off.

Nobody with more than a brain cell will accept blatant lies.

The story of how some of the moldavians became romanians in a nut shell:

Istoria Țării Rumânești dintru început (1716) by Constantin Cantacuzino

Deci, care iaste bine și direaptă, pe ia stă așa nemișcată, iar care greșită și smintită iaste, trebuie cei ce mai bine vor ști, de acel lucru să îndreptéze și să direagă. Însă de către amiazăzi Dachia să hotăraște cu Dunărea, și de cătră apus, zice Filip, cu apa ce să chiamă Patisul, întru care hotară, cuprindu-să astăzi, zice, partea a Țării Ungurești, mai sus zisa și Ardealul și Valahia (adecăte țara aceasta) și Moldova. Însă vlahii, acești gheografi și mai toți istoricii câți scriu de aceste țări, zicea și Moldovei și ceștiia; apoi o împarte în doao, una de sus; alta de jos, îi zic. Le zic și: mai mare și mai mică; cea de sus, adecăte și mai mare, Moldova; cea de jos și mai mică, țara această Muntenească numeind, cum îi zic mai mulți așa; că Rumânească numai lăcuitorii ei o chiamă, și doar unii den ardeleni ăiî rumâni, pentru că și aceia și ceștea numai când să întreabă, ce iaste? Ei răspund: rumâni; iar moldovénii să osebesc de să răspund: moldovani, săvai că și ei sunt de un neam și de un rod cu ceștea, cum mai nainte mai pre larg vom arăta cu mărturiile multora.

Beside the funny fact that a valahian historian called his country with three names in the same paragraph, we find out that moldavians were not calling themselves rumani even in that era (1639-1716). A well known fact. Looking in the moldavian documents, the moldavians were always calling themselves moldovan, with the plural moldoveni, never rumani or even moldovean. Moldovean is a valahian word, never used by the moldavians, as the moldavians were speaking their own moldavian language and not the valahian one. That was till the valahians, with the help of the usual traitors and fools, manage to occupy the principality Moldavia and destroy the brains of the people there.

So when did the moldavians, actually only some fools, became romanians? Not rumani, but the artificial 19 century invention romani.

Well, it is the work of the so called pasoptisti that paved the destruction of the Principality of Moldavia. They did step by step what the unionists bastards are doing since the 1990s in Republic of Moldova with limited success as there is democracy nowadays, and the traitors have a hard time doing their accursed work. In a text published in 1852 we found out exactly what the pasoptisti did.

Este o vorbă țărănească, ce seamănă a fi în Moldova de când Papură-Vodă: "sireacu Ștefan vodă, unde-i să vadă?" Această vorbă mult m-a muncit cu gândul, care n-am vreme să le spui toate, decât unul. Îmi închipuiesc câteodată că a ieșit din mormânt un strămoș de ai noștri, un vornic de Țara de Sus, un boier de Orhei, un hatman, un căpitan de târg, sau măcar cel mai ascuns postelnicel din Adunarea țării, care a iscălit dezrobirea vecinilor la 1772, în biserica Trei-Sfinților. Oare hatmanul acela ar putea să-și cunoască urmașii în oamenii de astăzi?... Hainele, năravurile, pământul au luat prefacere... până și numele. Astăzi nu mai suntem fiii hatmanului Baltag sau ai căpitanului Dragomir, dară domnul de Baltag, domnul de Dragomir, domnul de Lozonschi. Cât despre Ștefan vodă, îi mai ușoară treaba. Lozonscheștii, Dragomireștii s-ar mira, Ștefan vodă s-ar crede în țară străină.

Întâi și-ntâi, de-ar mai putea veni un Ștefan vodă pe calul lui cel voinic de la Valea Albă, de la târgul Băii, din codrii Bârladului, de la Dumbrava Roșie, sunt încredințat că nu l-am înțelege... vorba lui n-ar fi vorba noastră!... Văd parcă în foiletonul Zimbrului imnul următor: "Erou ilustru, trompeta gloriei tale penetră animile bravilor romani de admirăciune grandioasă și indifinisabilă pentru meritul neinninvincinibilităciunei tale!..." Și alte cauze și mai frumoase, la care bietul Ștefan ar holba ochii lui cei înfricoșați... tare mi-i teamă că în ziua de pe urmă, când trâmbița cerească ne va chema la judecata cea mare, nu ne vom putea înțelege cu strămoșii noștri, nici în limbă, nici în idee —Moldova s-a schimbat în 16 ani (1835-1852) din talpă până în vârv: limbă, haine, obiceiuri, până și numele... nu mai suntem moldoveni, ci români.

Moldavians in Basarabia were lucky to escape the destruction. From an 1814 letter addressed to the russian czar, written in moldavian and signed by the great boyars, we find out exactly who was the nation inhabiting the land, what language they spoke and what language was used in the official documents (all the archives of Moldavia). For example, regarding the language.

”… Prin pontul al 19-le a acei în scris vremelniceşti obrazovanii făcute de către D Admiral Ciceagov pentru închipuirea ocîrmuirii oblastului Basarabiei ce cuprinde, ca toate pricinile întru această Eparhie să se caute şi să se puie în lucrare în limba rosienească şi moldovenească a pămîntului. Acest de pe urmă cuprinzătorul de milostivire priveleghiuri de a se căuta toate pricinile în limba moldovenească a pămîntului, fie îndurarea ce înaltă a Măririi voastre a se întări spre a păzi pentru de-a purure, căci toate arhivele Moldaviei nu sînt într-altă limbă decît în dreaptă limba moldovenească. Toate documenturile pentru moşii şi pentru feliuri de giudecăți şi învoiele sînt alcătuite numai în limba moldovenească. Tot norodul acestei oblasti nu are înţelegere altei limbi decît a patriei sale. Aşadar fiind, dacă pricinile se vor căuta într-altă limbă mulţi dintre noi putem pierde drepturile noastre, neputînd bine a le descoperi în limba necunoscută nouă. Mulţi pot cade şi în feliuri de învinovăţiri, iscălind documenturi pe care nu le înţelegem, şi multe din documenturile ce avem vor lua prefacere în puterea cuvintelor, cînd se vor tălmăci într-altă limbă.
Adevărul acesta mai înainte l-au cunoscut pătrunzătoarea înţelepciune a iubirii voastre de oameni şi au dăruit şi megieşilor noştri şi altor noroade, care cu puterea nebiruitelor arme a pravoslaviei s-au supus Monarhicescului vostru scliiptru a se ocîrmiui în limba Patriei lor. Cu asemine nemărginită milă ne rugăm să fim şi noi împărtăşiţi… ”

Ilie Catargiul; spătar Ioan Başotă; Dimitrie Rîşcan; Constantin Şeicovici, maior; Iordachi Bucşenescu; loan Sturdza, spătar; Teodor Başotă, ban; Ştefan Rîşcan, comis; Toma Stamati, paharnic; Neculai Catargiul, paharnic; Petrache Catargiul, paharnic; Matei Rîşcan, stolnic; Vasile lamandi; Nicolai Doni, paharnic; Alexandru Panaiti, comis; Ştefănache Rali, căminar; Coste Jiccea; lancu Vasiliu; Manolache Negruţi; loan Strezescu; Toader Măcărescu, serdar; Simion Glavce, jicnicer; Pavli Măcărescu,serdar; Paveli Măcărescu, postelnic;Toma Paninopolo; Vasile Caţichi; Gheorghe Sala, vtor. vistiernic; gubernskii secretar loan Ganea; Constantin Budescu, armaş; Costache Başotă; Ştefan Teodorii, porucic; Teodosie, pitar; Alecul sîn Neculai Grecul; Dimitrie Sala; Căsian Suruceanu, pitar; Ioniţă Suruceanu; Niculai Dumbravă; Lupu Roset, medelnicer; Dimitrache Melega, vornic de poartă; Grigore Ursu; Enachi Izmană; Vasile Chirica, postelnicel; Pavel Chirica, postelnicel; Iordache Grec, postelnicel; Manolache Rusu; Stati Şendrea, căpitan; lordachi Alexandri, şatrar; Iordache Teodor, sulger; llie Botezatul, pitar; lsaia Lupu; loan lamandi,titulearnîi sovetnic; loan Sechiraş, Constandachi Sterpu; Neculai Rusu.
1814 anul, iunie 5, în Chişinău.”

Checkmate!

[Leto]

I'm both Russophobic and Russophilic :D

I like Russians but I dislike Russia's external policies.
I wonder which ones. Don't wanna start a debate but the Russian Empire is one thing, the USSR (which was dominated by Jews and other minorities and caused tremendous losses and suffering among the Russian population) is another thing. Putin's Russia is also different (total shit in my opinion). Again, I don't wanna assume too much but you are probably an unreflective supporter of globalization, neoliberalism and US/EU imperialism/cultural hegemony. But God forbid some Moldovans are friendly towards Russia. I personally support national languages and cultures which in the case of Moldova means Romanian. I don't think speaking an ugly mixture of languages like IB described is a good thing.

[Nurzat]

These new samples should be part of the Romania_Moldova_North/South/average targets?

that Botosani dude is an acquaintance of mine - his father is from Botosani county countryside, a village where some of the people have Ukrainian last name (-iuc ending mostly) but they don't know of any Ukrainian (Ruthenian/Russian) origin. his mom is from Iasi county, therefore Romanian from Moldova region. he certainly genetically looks like an approx 50-50 mix of southwestern Ukrainian and northeastern Romanian. maybe his village was originally Ruthenian and got Romanianized by the 20th century. in Botosani county there's a whole lot of people with Ukrainian-origin last name.

in spite of his probable Ukrainian origin through paternal side, he is a Vlach-centric Romanian nationalist xD and pan-Balkanist in the idea that all Balkanites are Romanized Dacians/Thracians/Illyrians that then got either Slavicized either continued with Romanian (Vlach) either with their ancestral language (like Albanians). he also places Balkans as up to southern Poland (considers Gorals, Hutsuls, Rusyns to be Vlachs). so basically he considers all Balkanites have an Albanian-like genetic, ethnic and cultural background, which was only slightly displaced genetically/ethnically/culturally, but overall all the Balkanites are rather closely related than not, genetically/ethnically/culturally. so he would consider you as Croat to be an Albanian speaking a Slavo-Dalmat pidgin. he totally desconsiders Carpathian Ukrainians as well, I mean he doesn't consider them Slavic in the slightest, but just Slavic-speaking Romanized Albanians (Vlachs).

[Nurzat]

Listen, I have nothing against RM being a separate country, as long as it's not a Russian domain and Moldovan history is told without distorting the history of Romania and Romanians.

you and in general anybody should respect the right of any other region to do whatever when it comes to how they choose to relate to their past. you are Romanian-centric over Moldova which is quite offensive for Moldovans. if you southerners tomorrow choose to relate to your past in the Bulgarian empire no Moldovan would give a shit. so leave Moldovans at least those in a separate independent country to decide for their identity. Moldova, you like it or not, has always been a separate state from 14th century to 19th century and then the eastern side of it continued to be from the end of the 20th century. so Moldova has a whole lot of history as a separate entity to Wallachia/Transylvania, so they have the right to respect that separation.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

you and in general anybody should respect the right of any other region to do whatever when it comes to how they choose to relate to their past. you are Romanian-centric over Moldova which is quite offensive for Moldovans. if you southerners tomorrow choose to relate to your past in the Bulgarian empire no Moldovan would give a shit. so leave Moldovans at least those in a separate independent country to decide for their identity. Moldova, you like it or not, has always been a separate state from 14th century to 19th century and then the eastern side of it continued to be from the end of the 20th century. so Moldova has a whole lot of history as a separate entity to Wallachia/Transylvania, so they have the right to respect that separation.

He was called out on saying Western Moldova was Russified when you quoted Creanga. He was called out even by this Mik20 person on this thread. He talks like his info is from Sergiu Nicolaescu movies, but refuses "Communist propaganda". The biggest nationalists after the Scoala Ardeleana were the communists.

He should stick to conspiracy fb groups.

[Aspirin]

that Botosani dude is an acquaintance of mine - his father is from Botosani county countryside, a village where some of the people have Ukrainian last name (-iuc ending mostly) but they don't know of any Ukrainian (Ruthenian/Russian) origin. his mom is from Iasi county, therefore Romanian from Moldova region. he certainly genetically looks like an approx 50-50 mix of southwestern Ukrainian and northeastern Romanian. maybe his village was originally Ruthenian and got Romanianized by the 20th century. in Botosani county there's a whole lot of people with Ukrainian-origin last name.


This guy seems to have normal results for the region. People from Botoșani, Iași and Vaslui have very similar results, and are visible northern compared to the rest ones. His surname by the way is from the same category like Ariciuc one, and is the most popular in Ukraine only in Bukovina, plus the areas who gravitate around northern Moldavian historical border.


Найчастіше - на Буковині (https://ridni.org/karta/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8E%D0%BA)

[Nurzat]

He was called out on saying Western Moldova was Russified when you quoted Creanga. He was called out even by this Mik20 person on this thread. He talks like his info is from Sergiu Nicolaescu movies, but refuses "Communist propaganda". The biggest nationalists after the Scoala Ardeleana were the communists.

He should stick to conspiracy fb groups.

I still have nothing against him, don't consider him a troll as he considers me and I am not anti-Romanian in the slightest. it's just this topic that southern Romanians don't seem to understand - it comes from them thinking they are l'ombelico del mondo xD when it comes to regional history. you know what's funny? they now say Moldova is a lie and Moldovans are 100% Romanian/Vlach, the next moment they say they don't want the countries unified because it would bring Romania down economically. to me it looks like the problem is Rep. of Moldova is not named Eastern Romania xD that's what they want

[Nurzat]

This guy seems to have normal results for the region. People from Botoșani, Iași and Vaslui have very similar results, and are visible northern compared to the rest ones. His surname by the way is from the same category like Ariciuc one, and is the most popular in Ukraine only in Bukovina, plus the areas who gravitate around northern Moldavian historical border.

it'd be normal to Ukrainian names in northernmost Romania to be from neighbouring Ukraine, not from Polisia or the steppes. I searched for names in my area and they score Galicia and Bucovina too, and some are not -iuk type and are not Romanian stem plus yuk in any case. the Ruthenians infiltrated into north Romania were from the very next region, which may and should have more Neolithic genes than their conationals in Kievshchina, along the Dnipro or such. very cool site, I will be searching it all day, thanks. I will pm you such purely Ukrainian names from my area (Maramures-Suceava) that score Bukovina as well.

also, the Romanian/Moldovan ethnics I know from north Bukovina all got Romanian last names (Ardelian, Ungurian, Mititelu, Moldovan, Suceveanu, Țaran etc)

[Aspirin]

it'd be normal to Ukrainian names in northernmost Romania to be from neighbouring Ukraine, not from Polisia or the steppes. I searched for names in my area and they score Galicia and Bucovina too, and some are not -iuk type and are not Romanian stem plus yuk in any case. the Ruthenians infiltrated into north Romania were from the very next region, which may and should have more Neolithic genes than their conationals in Kievshchina, along the Dnipro or such. very cool site, I will be searching it all day, thanks. I will pm you such purely Ukrainian names from my area (Maramures-Suceava) that score Bukovina as well

The problem is that in K15 PCA the most northern niggas are from Botoșani, Iași and Vaslui, especially from Vaslui all samples are northern. Will be interesting if you will test your parents (your mother is from Vaslui and looks northern) to see the results like Ion Basescul did with him and his parents. Personally, if I will test myself, later I will test my parents too, and maybe the brother of my mother to see the Y-DNA of my maternal grandfather.

[Aspirin]

He was called out on saying Western Moldova was Russified when you quoted Creanga. He was called out even by this Mik20 person on this thread. He talks like his info is from Sergiu Nicolaescu movies, but refuses "Communist propaganda". The biggest nationalists after the Scoala Ardeleana were the communists.

He should stick to conspiracy fb groups.

I think when such individuals write idiocy like this, more reasonable is to ignore them.



The official seal of Petru Rares, a 16th century Moldovan ruler, reads like this "Печать ио Романа воевода Земле Молдавской" meaning "the seal of the Romanian Voivode of the Moldovan Country".

[Aspirin]

He was called out on saying Western Moldova was Russified when you quoted Creanga. He was called out even by this Mik20 person on this thread. He talks like his info is from Sergiu Nicolaescu movies, but refuses "Communist propaganda". The biggest nationalists after the Scoala Ardeleana were the communists.

He should stick to conspiracy fb groups.

Give me your and your girlfried kits.

[MoroLP]

that Botosani dude is an acquaintance of mine - his father is from Botosani county countryside, a village where some of the people have Ukrainian last name (-iuc ending mostly) but they don't know of any Ukrainian (Ruthenian/Russian) origin. his mom is from Iasi county, therefore Romanian from Moldova region. he certainly genetically looks like an approx 50-50 mix of southwestern Ukrainian and northeastern Romanian. maybe his village was originally Ruthenian and got Romanianized by the 20th century. in Botosani county there's a whole lot of people with Ukrainian-origin last name.

in spite of his probable Ukrainian origin through paternal side, he is a Vlach-centric Romanian nationalist xD and pan-Balkanist in the idea that all Balkanites are Romanized Dacians/Thracians/Illyrians that then got either Slavicized either continued with Romanian (Vlach) either with their ancestral language (like Albanians). he also places Balkans as up to southern Poland (considers Gorals, Hutsuls, Rusyns to be Vlachs). so basically he considers all Balkanites have an Albanian-like genetic, ethnic and cultural background, which was only slightly displaced genetically/ethnically/culturally, but overall all the Balkanites are rather closely related than not, genetically/ethnically/culturally. so he would consider you as Croat to be an Albanian speaking a Slavo-Dalmat pidgin. he totally desconsiders Carpathian Ukrainians as well, I mean he doesn't consider them Slavic in the slightest, but just Slavic-speaking Romanized Albanians (Vlachs).

Thanks for reply and clarification. As for the second part, interesting point of view, but he's certainly not the first nor the last with such an opinion and nobody can deny his individual right to have it. In the Balkans exist two extreme ideological-cultural perspectives, one Pan-Slavic (etc. medieval) and other autohtonist. Both are wrong and true in the same time, we all have ancestry from one or the other, but in different proportions and these proportions are more similar or of the same value, at least 1/3-1/4, than they would like to accept.

[ixulescu]

He was called out on saying Western Moldova was Russified when you quoted Creanga. He was called out even by this Mik20 person on this thread. He talks like his info is from Sergiu Nicolaescu movies, but refuses "Communist propaganda". The biggest nationalists after the Scoala Ardeleana were the communists.

He should stick to conspiracy fb groups.

are you talking to me?
when did I say Western Moldova was Russified?? put the actual quote.

[ixulescu]

in spite of his probable Ukrainian origin through paternal side, he is a Vlach-centric Romanian nationalist xD and pan-Balkanist in the idea that all Balkanites are Romanized Dacians/Thracians/Illyrians that then got either Slavicized either continued with Romanian (Vlach) either with their ancestral language (like Albanians). he also places Balkans as up to southern Poland (considers Gorals, Hutsuls, Rusyns to be Vlachs). so basically he considers all Balkanites have an Albanian-like genetic, ethnic and cultural background, which was only slightly displaced genetically/ethnically/culturally, but overall all the Balkanites are rather closely related than not, genetically/ethnically/culturally. so he would consider you as Croat to be an Albanian speaking a Slavo-Dalmat pidgin. he totally desconsiders Carpathian Ukrainians as well, I mean he doesn't consider them Slavic in the slightest, but just Slavic-speaking Romanized Albanians (Vlachs).

Albanians cluster with Northwestern Greeks, not with Southern Slavs. You've been here for like what, 10 years? you should know this by now.
Romanians cluster with Southern Slavs and yes, the Vlach influence (not Albanian) extends to Western Ukraine, Moravian Wallachia and to some degree Gorals.

[ixulescu]

I wonder which ones. Don't wanna start a debate but the Russian Empire is one thing, the USSR (which was dominated by Jews and other minorities and caused tremendous losses and suffering among the Russian population) is another thing. Putin's Russia is also different (total shit in my opinion).

Russia has been an inimical state to Romania, from the beginning to this very day (including in the Soviet period). Somehow Russia has decided in the 18th century that Romanian principalities are its own turf and tried to acquire them by force. Since that effort failed, Russia used every trick in the book to hinder Romania's progress, much like Russia does today to Ukraine, in this unbelievable shitshow that is going on since 2014.

I have Russian and Ukrainian friends, East Slavic culture is something I find close to my heart, but I cannot have warm feelings towards Russia.

[ixulescu]

you and in general anybody should respect the right of any other region to do whatever when it comes to how they choose to relate to their past. you are Romanian-centric over Moldova which is quite offensive for Moldovans. if you southerners tomorrow choose to relate to your past in the Bulgarian empire no Moldovan would give a shit. so leave Moldovans at least those in a separate independent country to decide for their identity. Moldova, you like it or not, has always been a separate state from 14th century to 19th century and then the eastern side of it continued to be from the end of the 20th century. so Moldova has a whole lot of history as a separate entity to Wallachia/Transylvania, so they have the right to respect that separation.

Moldova has been a separate state from Wallachia but they the same population mix, where the Wallachian component was the dominant one, hence the language spoken was exactly the same in both countries. Not only that, but the ruling dynasties were related, the ruling class was formed from the same families, and of course the laws in both countries were very much the same, because the rich wanted to move themselves and property from one country to another unhindered. Even more so, when both Moldova and Wallachia had the same suzerain (like the Ottomans for instance), one country (either Moldova or Wallachia) would have a more autonomous voivode and the other would have a sort of vice-prince, named by the former. So even though the countries were separate, they were ruled as one for most of the medieval era.

Now, I don't have anything against Rep of Moldova being an independent country, but only if it's not planning to become another Transnistria, and it's not justifying its bid for independence with fake history.

[Leto]

Russia has been an inimical state to Romania, from the beginning to this very day (including in the Soviet period). Somehow Russia has decided in the 18th century that Romanian principalities are its own turf and tried to acquire them by force. Since that effort failed, Russia used every trick in the book to hinder Romania's progress, much like Russia does today to Ukraine, in this unbelievable shitshow that is going on since 2014.

I have Russian and Ukrainian friends, East Slavic culture is something I find close to my heart, but I cannot have warm feelings towards Russia.
This is utter bullshit. Khokhols hate everything Russian while Russians see them as equal. They are a fake nation (just like you consider Moldovans to be fake) and their identity is negative, not positive (anti-Russian).

Dude, I suggest you get out of this thread about Gedmatch results. You are clueless about genetics, first prove that you're not a fucking Slav with Romani admixture xD

[Aspirin]

Moldova has been a separate state from Wallachia but they the same population mix, where the Wallachian component was the dominant one, hence the language spoken was exactly the same in both countries. Not only that, but the ruling dynasties were related, the ruling class was formed from the same families, and of course the laws in both countries were very much the same, because the rich wanted to move themselves and property from one country to another unhindered. Even more so, when both Moldova and Wallachia had the same suzerain (like the Ottomans for instance), one country (either Moldova or Wallachia) would have a more autonomous voivode and the other would have a sort of vice-prince, named by the former. So even though the countries were separate, they were ruled as one for most of the medieval era.

Now, I don't have anything against Rep of Moldova being an independent country, but only if it's not planning to become another Transnistria, and it's not justifying its bid for independence with fake history.

When I want to read some fake history, I just open a book about Romanian history.

[ixulescu]

This is utter bullshit. Khokhols hate everything Russian while Russians see them as equal. They are a fake nation (just like you consider Moldovans to be fake) and their identity is negative, not positive (anti-Russian).

Dude, I suggest you get out of this thread about Gedmatch results. You are clueless about genetics, first prove that you're not a fucking Slav with Romani admixture xD

Calm down now.

I can certainly see the parallels between Romania-Moldova case and Russia-Ukraine, but for one Ukraine has it's own language and culture and it's 100 years older than Bessarabia (RM), as a Russian gubernia (I don't remember the exact years, don't quote me on this).

So, even though I suspect Ukrainians fake a lot of their history as well (for certain Ukraine started as part of Russia), you should support the will of the people to live in a independent state (like I do for Moldova).

[ixulescu]

When I want to read some fake history, I just open a book about Romanian history.

and then you enjoy the true Moldovan history from Dodon's electoral clips. lots of fun.

[Aspirin]

and then you enjoy the true Moldovan history from Dodon's electoral clips. lots of fun.

Romanian history is on this level:



The official seal of Petru Rares, a 16th century Moldovan ruler, reads like this "Печать ио Романа воевода Земле Молдавской" meaning "the seal of the Romanian Voivode of the Moldovan Country".

[ixulescu]

I still have nothing against him, don't consider him a troll as he considers me and I am not anti-Romanian in the slightest. it's just this topic that southern Romanians don't seem to understand - it comes from them thinking they are l'ombelico del mondo xD when it comes to regional history.

I have no such illusions. In medieval times Wallachia was the weakest state of the Romanian principalities. I said this 1000 times, you read it for certain, but like always you're willfully misrepresenting what I say

[Leto]

Calm down now.

I can certainly see the parallels between Romania-Moldova case and Russia-Ukraine, but for one Ukraine has it's own language and culture and it's 100 years older than Bessarabia (RM), as a Russian gubernia (I don't remember the exact years, don't quote me on this).

So, even though I suspect Ukrainians fake a lot of their history as well (for certain Ukraine started as part of Russia), you should support the will of the people to live in a independent state (like I do for Moldova).
I do support it, just without the meaningless hatred against Russia and fake history. In fact as a half Belorussian I am also against the integration of Belarus into Putin's Russia. I'm not in favor of his regime by any means. But that's another topic.

[Leto]

Language is a political issue. You can call many dialects separate languages, it really depends on the perspective. In Italy all Italians are considered part of one nation even though there are vast linguistic (and genetic) differences between various parts of Italy. Maybe not today due to extensive intermixing and homogenization but surely until recently. So the difference between a separate ethnic group and simply a regional culture/identity can be very blurry.

[ixulescu]

Romanian history is on this level:

That seal is actually of Petru I Musat, a Moldovan ruler from 14th century. That's my mistake.

Regardless, it shows exactly the same thing, that a Moldovan ruler was calling himself Romanian, and this was happening not in the 19th century but in the 14 century.

[Mik20]

That seal is actually of Petru I Musat, a Moldovan ruler from 14th century. That's my mistake.

Regardless, it shows exactly the same thing, that a Moldovan ruler was calling himself Romanian, and this was happening not in the 19th century but in the 14 century.

No, that was the seal of Roman I of Moldavia. Anyway, guess who else are calling themselves Romanian? Roman Abramovich, Roman Polanski and many other Romanians like them.

[ixulescu]

No, that was the seal of Roman I of Moldavia. Anyway, guess who else are calling themselves Romanian? Roman Abramovich, Roman Polanski and many other Romanians like them.

On a second look, that is possible. Roman I was the successor of Petru I Musat, and it's not very clear when the switch happened from one ruler to another. So it is possible that the seal belongs to Roman I, in which case I was wrong.

[Mik20]

BTW that seal is from the oldest moldavian document preserved to this day, document of great simbolic, and not only simbolic, value for moldavians and Moldavia. To be found now in Bucharest as that the walachian thieves took it after 1859 to put it in their museums and archives. Fate shared by countless priceless moldavian documents and artefacts.

This is the document:

https://tiparituriromanesti.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/roman-voievod-1392.jpg

With the text, translated from Sclavonic:

„† Marele singur stăpânitor, din mila lui Dumnezeu domn, Io Roman voievod, stăpânind Țara Moldovei de la munte până la mare. Am dat, cu fiii mei, Olecsandro și Bogdan, slugii noastre Ivanăș (Ionaș) Viteazul, pentru credincioasa lui slujbă, 3 sate pe Siret, uric, lui, cu tot venitul, în veac, și copiilor lui, și nepoților lui, și strănepoților lui, și răstrănepoților lui, cu tot dreptul. Numele satelor: Ciorsaceuți și Vladimirăuți și Bucurăuți.

Iar hotarul lor să fie din jos de Marâșeuți, valul care este de-a curmezișul Câmpului, până la Siret, apoi pe cealaltă parte a Siretului, la capătul de jos al poienii, o movilă, și de acolo, drept peste luncă, la fântână, o movilă, și de acolo drept la bucovină, o movilă, și de acolo, pe marginea bucovinei, în sus, până la hotarul lui Șerb(ăn)escu, la tei, o movilă, de acolo către topliță, acolo o movilă, și de acolo către Siret, movila de la mijloc, și de acolo, (peste) Siret, în sus, până la bucovina cea mare, pe unde iese drumul de la Dobrinăuți, la capătul Câmpului, și de acolo, pe marginea bucovinei, pe deal la vale, până la val. Acesta îi este hotarul întregului ocol.

Iar la aceasta este credința mea și credința fiilor mei, credința jupanului Iuga al lui Giurgiu, credința jupanului Stețco și cu frații lui, credința lui Bratul Netedul, credința lui Stanislav, credința panului Drăgoi, credința lui Andriaș și a panului Giurgiu, credința panului Draguș viteazul, credința lui Stravici, credința panului Vlad, a panului Ghidea, a panului Grozea, credința panului Costea, credința lui Oriș, credința tuturor boierilor moldoveni.

Iar pentru tăria acesteia și pentru pomenire, am poruncit să se atârne pecetea noastră cea mare, ca să nu fie clintită aceasta niciodată, în veac.

S-a scris cartea în anul 6900 [1392] deplin, luna martie, în 30 zile, în cetatea noastră, a lui Roman voievod.”

[Ion Basescul]

Language is a political issue. You can call many dialects separate languages, it really depends on the perspective. In Italy all Italians are considered part of one nation even though there are vast linguistic (and genetic) differences between various parts of Italy. Maybe not today due to extensive intermixing and homogenization but surely until recently. So the difference between a separate ethnic group and simply a regional culture/identity can be very blurry.

The name of the language is pretty much a non-issue in 2020. All of our intelligentsia recognise it as Romanian, and so do the plurality of people in the capital.
It's the ethnic identity were more people are yet to wake up (7% identified as Romanian in 2014, as opposed to 2.3% in 2004; that's a 200% increase, which means that we should be at least 21% at the next census in 4 years), but there's no need to rush. That will come with time.

https://statistica.gov.md/public/files/Recensamint/Recensamint_pop_2014/Rezultate/Harti/Limbi_vorbite_A4.jpg

[ixulescu]

The name of the language is pretty much a non-issue in 2020. All of our intelligentsia recognise it as Romanian, and so do the plurality of people in the capital.
It's the ethnic identity were more people are yet to wake up (7% identified as Romanian in 2014, as opposed to 2.3% in 2004; that's a 200% increase, which means that we should be at least 21% at the next census in 4 years), but there's no need to rush. That will come with time.


I would agree with you that there is no need to rush, and in fact rushing it only brings unnecessary conflicts.
The only problem is that the economic situation is pressing, and Moldova lacks the perspective of developing economically independently, unlike Ukraine for instance.

[Ion Basescul]

I would agree with you that there is no need to rush, and in fact rushing it only brings unnecessary conflicts.
The only problem is that the economic situation is pressing, and Moldova lacks the perspective of developing economically independently, unlike Ukraine for instance.

It has perspective in the right sectors, if the focus is appropriate. Traditional sectors like agriculture need innovation, investments and automation.
The most competitive sector and which brings the most added value is IT and most people who activate in this field are satisfied with their work conditions and wages.
Moldova as of late is placing itself as an outsourcing IT hub for businesses in Europe, US and Russia. For example the company that I work for is a subsidiary of the main branch in Lithuania, which in its turn contracts services in the UK.
My best friend works for a subsidiary in Chisinau of a parking company in the US. His job is entry level, but he can work from home 4/5 days and on top of that they are flex hours.
So this will become an ever growing industry, because if you want to make a fair living, then the conditions for the employees are way more attractive than anywhere else in the market.

We even have Crunchyroll here :lol:
https://www.crunchyroll.com/about/work/index.html

https://tv8.md/2020/02/04/foto-chisinaul-a-fost-desemnat-orasul-anului-din-europa-de-sud-est-pentru-sustinerea-si-dezvoltarea-sectorului-it/
https://moldovaitpark.md/

[ixulescu]

BTW that seal is from the oldest moldavian document preserved to this day, document of great simbolic, and not only simbolic, value for moldavians and Moldavia. To be found now in Bucharest as that the walachian thieves took it after 1859 to put it in their museums and archives. Fate shared by countless priceless moldavian documents and artefacts.


The fact that this document survived is almost a miracle.

The Romanian national archives were deliberately destroyed by Austro-Hungarians during the German occupation of Bucharest in ww1. Only a few documents and artifacts were saved and sent to Russia for preservation from where most never returned. Not only that, but Russia targeted Moldova specifically, because they returned many Wallachian documents but almost none Moldovan - in an obvious effort to denationalize Moldovans.

You always seem to forget the shit Russia did to Moldova.

[Nurzat]

Romanian/Vlach/Wallachian stance on this: adviser to the former President of Romania warns the Rep. of Moldova:

"Moldovan identity means territorial claims to Romania and Ukraine." (https://forum.md/ru/925664) (hinting at the fact that historical Moldova was a Romanian state from the point of view of Romanians and that its history and identity belongs to Romania)

https://www.ziuaveche.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Identitate-moldoveneasca-revendicari-teritoriale-de-la-Romania-si-Ucraina.jpg

[ixulescu]

It has perspective in the right sectors, if the focus is appropriate. Traditional sectors like agriculture need innovation, investments and automation.
The most competitive sector and which brings the most added value is IT and most people who activate in this field are satisfied with their work conditions and wages.
Moldova as of late is placing itself as an outsourcing IT hub for businesses in Europe, US and Russia. For example the company that I work for is a subsidiary of the main branch in Lithuania, which in its turn contracts services in the UK.


I wish you good luck, but the problem is that even if Moldova had a good plan and leadership the investment would still not come in.

This is because Moldova has placed itself in a grey area between 2 strategic blocks, where no one wants to invest for fears of exposing themselves to unpredictable political developments.

[ixulescu]

Romanian/Vlach/Wallachian stance on this: adviser to the former President of Romania warns the Rep. of Moldova:

"Moldovan identity means territorial claims to Romania and Ukraine." (https://forum.md/ru/925664) (hinting at the fact that historical Moldova was a Romanian state from the point of view of Romanians and that its history and identity belongs to Romania)


The Federal Republic of Moldova :lol:

The federalization of Rep of Moldova is a Russian plan to gain the political reins in Chisinau through the promise of tighter integration with Tiraspol.

It is such a pointless plan that even Russian tools like Voronin rejected it.

[Mik20]

Well, I guess time will tell, but the moldavians have to truth behind them, so the final result is not difficult to anticipate.


The Romanian national archives were deliberately destroyed by Austro-Hungarians during the German occupation of Bucharest in ww1. Only a few documents and artifacts were saved and sent to Russia for preservation from where most never returned. Not only that, but Russia targeted Moldova specifically, because they returned many Wallachian documents but almost none Moldovan - in an obvious effort to denationalize Moldovans.

You always seem to forget the shit Russia did to Moldova.

So the Russians kept the moldavians documents hidden so nobody could see they were written in russian, filled with russian names, in their obvious effort to denationalize the moldavians? Makes a lot of sense. The rest is again typical romanian nonsense.

[ixulescu]

Well, I guess time will tell, but the moldavians have to truth behind them, so the final result is not difficult to anticipate.

So the Russians kept the moldavians documents hidden so nobody could see they were written in russian, filled with russian names, in their obvious effort to denationalize the moldavians? Makes a lot of sense. The rest is again typical romanian nonsense.


No Moldovan document archived in Bucharest was written in Russian. Older Moldovan documents were written in OCS and later in Romanian.

You have no idea what you're talking about, are you even Moldovan?

[Mik20]

Nurzat, so where do you stand? Will you fight for Moldova?

BTW there can be no united Moldova. We took different paths. The best for the "moldoveans" is to have their own independent country, but it will never happen as they ceased being men generations ago.

[Ion Basescul]

I wish you good luck, but the problem is that even if Moldova had a good plan and leadership the investment would still not come in.

This is because Moldova has placed itself in a grey area between 2 strategic blocks, where no one wants to invest for fears of exposing themselves to unpredictable political developments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova%E2%80%93European_Union_Association_Agreeme nt
https://eu4moldova.md/ro

[Mik20]

No Moldovan document archived in Bucharest was written in Russian. Older Moldovan documents were written in OCS and later in Romanian.

You have no idea what you're talking about, are you even Moldovan?

In the most important works dedicated to the old Russian language, the moldavian documents are extensively quoted for good reason.

[Aspirin]

No Moldovan document archived in Bucharest was written in Russian. Older Moldovan documents were written in OCS and later in Romanian.

You have no idea what you're talking about, are you even Moldovan?

Church Slavonic was used only in religious books, the Medieval Moldavian documents and chronicles are written in an old South-Western Russian dialect with some local changes.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

are you talking to me?
when did I say Western Moldova was Russified?? put the actual quote.

Thread was made by Bosniensis and was purged, you stated Oghial is a russian loanword due to russification - you didn't realize it was used by several Moldavian authors and is a regional word in western Moldova as well. Nurzat can attest, since you replied to his list of Moldavian regional words.

[ixulescu]

Thread was made by Bosniensis and was purged, you stated Oghial is a russian loanword due to russification - you didn't realize it was used by several Moldavian authors and is a regional word in western Moldova as well. Nurzat can attest, since you replied to his list of Moldavian regional words.

No, I didn't.

I said oghial is a regionalism with a small spread, in places with many East Slavic speakers (which in Western part of Moldova are only a few), because it is not known by many Moldovans.

This has nothing to do with Russification. Russification is a deliberate political process. The use of words like oghial has nothing to do with it.

Stop putting words in my mouth. You and Nurzat do this all the time. Read properly what I say, not what you think I say.

[Ion Basescul]

Surname Balan
Could be either from Moldavia or R. Moldova, as I wasn't able to confirm the location. I sent an email, so hopefully they will confirm.


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
28.72


2
North_Atlantic
25.37


3
West_Med
15.23


4
East_Med
13.75


5
West_Asian
10.56


6
Red_Sea
1.85


7
South_Asian
1.45


8
Siberian
1.38


9
Oceanian
0.74


10
Amerindian
0.7


11
Sub-Saharan
0.26

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.27


2
Moldavian
5.29


3
Romanian
5.75


4
Croatian
8.14


5
Bulgarian
8.16


6
Hungarian
8.22


7
Austrian
11.85


8
East_German
13.2


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.43


10
South_Polish
15.19


11
Ukrainian
15.86


12
Greek_Thessaly
16.71


13
West_German
17.34


14
Polish
18.81


15
South_Dutch
18.91


16
Southwest_Russian
19.03


17
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.21


18
French
19.27


19
North_Italian
19.5


20
Tatar
20.73

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

72%
Romanian
+
28%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
1.43


2

61%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
39%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
1.44


3

52.2%
Moldavian
+
47.8%
Romanian
@
1.44


4

81.6%
Moldavian
+
18.4%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
1.56


5

58.8%
Ukrainian
+
41.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
1.66


6

80.5%
Romanian
+
19.5%
Kargopol_Russian
@
1.71


7

82.4%
Romanian
+
17.6%
Estonian
@
1.72


8

59.2%
Romanian
+
40.8%
Croatian
@
1.75


9

77.4%
Romanian
+
22.6%
Polish
@
1.77


10

73.4%
Romanian
+
26.6%
South_Polish
@
1.79


11

74.2%
Romanian
+
25.8%
Ukrainian
@
1.79


12

80.7%
Moldavian
+
19.3%
Tuscan
@
1.81


13

64.6%
Serbian
+
35.4%
Moldavian
@
1.81


14

79.2%
Romanian
+
20.8%
Russian_Smolensk
@
1.81


15

82.9%
Romanian
+
17.1%
East_Finnish
@
1.86


16

73.9%
Croatian
+
26.1%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
1.88


17

82.3%
Romanian
+
17.7%
Finnish
@
1.9


18

83%
Moldavian
+
17%
West_Sicilian
@
1.92


19

83%
Romanian
+
17%
Lithuanian
@
1.92


20

79.8%
Romanian
+
20.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
1.98



</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

From Botosani


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
26.54


2
North_Atlantic
24.93


3
West_Med
16.4


4
East_Med
15.34


5
West_Asian
12.19


6
Red_Sea
1.75


7
Siberian
1.24


8
East_Asian
0.9


9
Oceanian
0.49


10
Amerindian
0.2


11
South_Asian
0.02

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Romanian
3.34


2
Serbian
3.36


3
Bulgarian
5.67


4
Moldavian
8.04


5
Hungarian
10.59


6
Croatian
10.95


7
Austrian
13.51


8
Greek_Thessaly
14.25


9
East_German
15.27


10
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.3


11
North_Italian
17.6


12
West_German
17.97


13
South_Polish
17.98


14
Tuscan
18.46


15
Ukrainian
18.65


16
French
19.16


17
South_Dutch
19.54


18
Italian_Abruzzo
19.8


19
Central_Greek
20.86


20
Portuguese
21.51

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

92.3%
Serbian
+
7.7%
Balkar
@
1.4


2

92.1%
Serbian
+
7.9%
Kabardin
@
1.47


3

92.8%
Serbian
+
7.2%
North_Ossetian
@
1.51


4

93%
Serbian
+
7%
Ossetian
@
1.57


5

92.7%
Serbian
+
7.3%
Adygei
@
1.58


6

94.1%
Serbian
+
5.9%
Abhkasian
@
1.61


7

93.8%
Serbian
+
6.2%
Georgian
@
1.68


8

92.1%
Serbian
+
7.9%
Kumyk
@
1.7


9

92.6%
Serbian
+
7.4%
Chechen
@
1.78


10

73.5%
Romanian
+
26.5%
Moldavian
@
1.79


11

71.6%
Moldavian
+
28.4%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
1.86


12

86.3%
Romanian
+
13.7%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
1.92


13

93%
Serbian
+
7%
Lezgin
@
1.96


14

92%
Serbian
+
8%
Nogay
@
1.98


15

89%
Romanian
+
11%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
1.98


16

86.9%
Romanian
+
13.1%
South_Polish
@
2


17

87.4%
Romanian
+
12.6%
Ukrainian
@
2.01


18

80.2%
Romanian
+
19.8%
Croatian
@
2.02


19

51.5%
Ukrainian
+
48.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.04


20

90.6%
Romanian
+
9.4%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.05



</tbody>

[Aspirin]

From Botosani


Give me his kit number.

[Aspirin]

Surname Balan
Could be either from Moldavia or R. Moldova, as I wasn't able to confirm the location. I sent an email, so hopefully they will confirm.


Kit number please.

[Nurzat]

No, I didn't.

I said oghial is a regionalism with a small spread, in places with many East Slavic speakers (which in Western part of Moldova are only a few), because it is not known by many Moldovans.

This has nothing to do with Russification. Russification is a deliberate political process. The use of words like oghial has nothing to do with it.

most Moldovan-speaking county is Vaslui, this is where all these words are from, Vaslui is far away from any Slavic settlers place like Suceava or Maramures or even Botosani. the hundreds of local words of Old Slavic origin are in no way coming from Russians or Ukrainians, I bet they were inherited from our Early Slavic ancestors that Vlachs found in the region when they arrived. those words have been in use one thousand years ago as well, I bet. while Romanians in Suceava live next to Slavs and they don't use most words one can quote from Vaslui. so your theory has no ground. the Slavic Moldovan regional words are heritage from that side of our ancestry that is Early Slavic

[ixulescu]

most Moldovan-speaking county is Vaslui, this is where all these words are from, Vaslui is far away from any Slavic settlers place like Suceava or Maramures or even Botosani. the hundreds of local words of Old Slavic origin are in no way coming from Russians or Ukrainians, I bet they were inherited from our Early Slavic ancestors that Vlachs found in the region when they arrived. those words have been in use one thousand years ago as well, I bet. while Romanians in Suceava live next to Slavs and they don't use most words one can quote from Vaslui. so your theory has no ground. the Slavic Moldovan regional words are heritage from that side of our ancestry that is Early Slavic

The point was that ogheal is a regionalism of limited spread. My mom is 100% Moldovan and never heard of ogheal. You're extending your own experiences to everyone else. That doesn't work.

[Nurzat]

The point was that ogheal is a regionalism of limited spread. My mom is 100% Moldovan and never heard of ogheal.

well you said you are from an upper middle class family, maybe your folks spoke standard Romanian at home, there are some Moldovans that do that in that social class. anyway by your entire discourse on any topic you seem totally disconnected from the realities in Romania in general and in Moldova region in particular. countryside Vaslui is pure Middle Ages in language, mentality and looks

[Ion Basescul]

Ţîcu, Ungheni, R. Moldova, relative of the Eurogenes kit JR2297171


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.21


2
East_Med
21.13


3
North_Atlantic
18.73


4
West_Med
15.46


5
West_Asian
10.82


6
Oceanian
1.7


7
Red_Sea
0.92


8
Sub-Saharan
0.72


9
Siberian
0.68


10
South_Asian
0.39


11
Amerindian
0.23

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
6.23


2
Romanian
7.52


3
Serbian
9.23


4
Moldavian
11.27


5
Greek_Thessaly
13.37


6
Croatian
14.21


7
Hungarian
15.87


8
Ukrainian_Lviv
19.71


9
Central_Greek
19.82


10
Austrian
19.85


11
Italian_Abruzzo
20.49


12
Tuscan
20.6


13
Ukrainian
20.72


14
South_Polish
20.77


15
East_Sicilian
21.08


16
East_German
21.16


17
Ashkenazi
21.49


18
North_Italian
21.63


19
West_Sicilian
21.77


20
Southwest_Russian
22.68

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

61.7%
Ukrainian
+
38.3%
Cyprian
@
3.64


2

56.6%
Estonian_Polish
+
43.4%
Cyprian
@
4.12


3

59.6%
Southwest_Russian
+
40.4%
Cyprian
@
4.23


4

53.5%
Central_Greek
+
46.5%
Southwest_Russian
@
4.29


5

55.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
44.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.3


6

51.7%
Ashkenazi
+
48.3%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
4.31


7

56%
Belorussian
+
44%
Cyprian
@
4.34


8

52.1%
Lithuanian
+
47.9%
Cyprian
@
4.34


9

58.1%
Polish
+
41.9%
Cyprian
@
4.45


10

56.9%
Russian_Smolensk
+
43.1%
Cyprian
@
4.46


11

61.8%
South_Polish
+
38.2%
Cyprian
@
4.47


12

56.1%
Southwest_Russian
+
43.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.5


13

51.7%
Southwest_Russian
+
48.3%
South_Italian
@
4.51


14

51.4%
Ashkenazi
+
48.6%
Southwest_Russian
@
4.52


15

56%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
44%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.53


16

63.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
36.9%
Cyprian
@
4.55


17

51.9%
Estonian
+
48.1%
Cyprian
@
4.59


18

53.8%
Central_Greek
+
46.2%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
4.6


19

66.1%
Ukrainian
+
33.9%
Lebanese_Christian
@
4.61


20

63.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
36.1%
Southwest_Russian
@
4.63



</tbody>

[ixulescu]

well you said you are from an upper middle class family, maybe your folks spoke standard Romanian at home, there are some Moldovans that do that in that social class. anyway by your entire discourse on any topic you seem totally disconnected from the realities in Romania in general and in Moldova region in particular. countryside Vaslui is pure Middle Ages in language, mentality and looks

You're just spouting stereotypes about Vaslui, you know nothing about it. I have deep family connections to the area and the Southern half of Moldova in general.

My mom comes from a rural family, not a poor one but not a rich one either. I know very well where the average sits in all respects.

[Ion Basescul]

The point was that ogheal is a regionalism of limited spread. My mom is 100% Moldovan and never heard of ogheal. You're extending your own experiences to everyone else. That doesn't work.

It's pretty common here. My grandma in Orhei uses iorgan though, which I haven't heard anywhere else.

[ixulescu]

It's pretty common here. My grandma in Orhei uses iorgan though, which I haven't heard anywhere else.

I heard about iorgan but not ogheal. This is the deal with regionalisms.

[Nurzat]

@ixulescu

Romania is this: when I was a kid I was wiping with leaves and the toilet was either an outhouse either the cornfield - and so it was for most Romanians in the early 1990s. a few guys on a forum try to give people the impression Romanians spend their time on the internet, discussing culture... lol... people are falling on the street of hunger in Romania and we discuss of their "identity" xD we are shit-poor bro, let's make peace and go to better topics. you know why I love the low level of civilization us Romanians are on? because it puts us closer to our ancestors than to today's people, especially arrogant Westerners - their civilization is more alien to us than Papuans. I like to feel connected to our forefathers and to their way of life. when I was a kid Romania was middle ages with electricity. now it is middle ages with electricity and internet - and that's awesome. let's not spoil it. I've seen London and Bruxelles, we are way better off this way

[Leto]

@ixulescu

Romania is this: when I was a kid I was wiping with leaves and the toilet was either an outhouse either the cornfield - and so it was for most Romanians in the early 1990s. a few guys on a forum try to give people the impression Romanians spend their time on the internet, discussing culture... lol... people are falling on the street of hunger in Romania and we discuss of their "identity" xD we are shit-poor bro, let's make peace and go to better topics. you know why I love the low level of civilization us Romanians are on? because it puts us closer to our ancestors than to today's people, especially arrogant Westerners - their civilization is more alien to us than Papuans. I like to feel connected to our forefathers and to their way of life. when I was a kid Romania was middle ages with electricity
I guess Russia is to blame for that. As if Russia was some kind of Switzerland with people bathing in money and gold :lol:

But at least fucking welfare seekers from the Global South have no reason to invade Romania. There is always a positive aspect to something.

[Nurzat]

I guess Russia is to blame for that. As if Russia was some kind of Switzerland with people bathing in money and gold :lol:

But at least fucking welfare seekers from the Global South have no reason to invade Romania. There is always a positive aspect to something.

no immigration but local welfare seekers have 5.2 kids/woman so they will double with each generation. in the end they'll be majority and Romanians will mix in (some already do it). meanwhile most women date and marry foreigners (Italians, Greeks and Arabs especially). except for a few city downtowns and a few suburbs, Romania looks socially and economically apocalyptic

[Aspirin]

Ţîcu, Ungheni, R. Moldova, relative of the Eurogenes kit JR2297171


Kit number please.

[ixulescu]

no immigration but local welfare seekers have 5.2 kids/woman so they will double with each generation. in the end they'll be majority and Romanians will mix in (some already do it). meanwhile most women date and marry foreigners (Italians, Greeks and Arabs especially). except for a few city downtowns and a few suburbs, Romania looks socially and economically apocalyptic

Again you're painting an unrealistic picture. Romania has many faults, but it actually has an economy running, and somewhat working political and justice systems, unlike most of our neighbors.

You need to put this in your head, your experience in a god forsaken village is not what most Romanians go through in life.

And related to this is what I don't understand about you. You finished a college degree - why the fuck didn't you migrate, instead of feeding on sour grapes, like you do here everyday.

[Leto]

And related to this is what I don't understand about you. You finished a college degree - why the fuck didn't you migrate, instead of feeding on sour grapes, like you do here everyday.
I think large-scale emigration is actually a big problem for the Eastern EU. You guys need to bring back as many of your countrymen as possible. Maybe except for stupid liberals who love Western degeneracy. And the Roma of course.

[Ion Basescul]

@ixulescu

Romania is this: when I was a kid I was wiping with leaves and the toilet was either an outhouse either the cornfield - and so it was for most Romanians in the early 1990s. a few guys on a forum try to give people the impression Romanians spend their time on the internet, discussing culture... lol... people are falling on the street of hunger in Romania and we discuss of their "identity" xD we are shit-poor bro, let's make peace and go to better topics. you know why I love the low level of civilization us Romanians are on? because it puts us closer to our ancestors than to today's people, especially arrogant Westerners - their civilization is more alien to us than Papuans. I like to feel connected to our forefathers and to their way of life. when I was a kid Romania was middle ages with electricity. now it is middle ages with electricity and internet - and that's awesome. let's not spoil it. I've seen London and Bruxelles, we are way better off this way

Our country is 5 times poorer than Romania and still pretty livable and visibly in development/construction in the capital and surrounding region. Therefore, I'm sure that not a lot of people share the same experience.

September 2019

https://youtu.be/msprskG-g74

February 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCKif0N44rU

[Ion Basescul]

From Iasi


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
33.35


2
North_Atlantic
21.55


3
East_Med
17.78


4
West_Med
16.78


5
West_Asian
7.05


6
East_Asian
1.07


7
Red_Sea
0.86


8
Amerindian
0.76


9
Sub-Saharan
0.69


10
Siberian
0.11

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
7.62


2
Serbian
8.02


3
Romanian
9.18


4
Croatian
9.37


5
Bulgarian
9.61


6
Hungarian
12.18


7
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.83


8
Ukrainian
15.51


9
South_Polish
15.78


10
Austrian
16.36


11
East_German
17.05


12
Greek_Thessaly
17.72


13
Southwest_Russian
18.11


14
Ukrainian_Belgorod
18.57


15
Polish
18.87


16
Russian_Smolensk
20.31


17
Estonian_Polish
20.47


18
Belorussian
21.17


19
Kargopol_Russian
22.45


20
North_Italian
22.59

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

68.9%
Ukrainian
+
31.1%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.04


2

63.5%
Ukrainian
+
36.5%
Ashkenazi
@
4.08


3

59.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
40.6%
Lithuanian
@
4.16


4

53.8%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
4.18


5

70%
Bulgarian
+
30%
Estonian_Polish
@
4.33


6

50.6%
Greek_Thessaly
+
49.4%
Southwest_Russian
@
4.37


7

69.2%
Ukrainian
+
30.8%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.42


8

74.7%
Bulgarian
+
25.3%
Lithuanian
@
4.42


9

56.9%
Lithuanian
+
43.1%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.42


10

54.7%
Greek_Thessaly
+
45.3%
Belorussian
@
4.44


11

62.4%
Estonian_Polish
+
37.6%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.46


12

70.9%
Bulgarian
+
29.1%
Belorussian
@
4.52


13

59%
Estonian_Polish
+
41%
South_Italian
@
4.57


14

53.6%
Ukrainian
+
46.4%
Greek_Thessaly
@
4.57


15

67.5%
Bulgarian
+
32.5%
Southwest_Russian
@
4.57


16

65.4%
Southwest_Russian
+
34.6%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.58


17

72.2%
Ukrainian
+
27.8%
Cyprian
@
4.61


18

55%
Estonian_Polish
+
45%
Central_Greek
@
4.62


19

53.4%
Lithuanian
+
46.6%
South_Italian
@
4.62


20

53.6%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.4%
Russian_Smolensk
@
4.7



</tbody>

[ixulescu]

I think large-scale emigration is actually a big problem for the Eastern EU. You guys need to bring back as many of your countrymen as possible. Maybe except for stupid liberals who love Western degeneracy. And the Roma of course.

Rest assured, Romania will do fine without me and Nurzat :lol:

Communists killed almost all the Romanian intellectual and professional class in late 40s - early 50s, and still Romania rebounded in a decade.

There's enough resource inside Romania to keep on growing. What's important for it is to stay true to the course.

[Ion Basescul]

Maybe except for stupid liberals who love Western degeneracy. And the Roma of course.

Yo, am I being kicked out now?

[Leto]

Yo, am I being kicked out now?
You aren't even from Romania, that wasn't about you.

[Nurzat]

Again you're painting an unrealistic picture. Romania has many faults, but it actually has an economy running, and somewhat working political and justice systems, unlike most of our neighbors.

You need to put this in your head, your experience in a god forsaken village is not what most Romanians go through in life.

And related to this is what I don't understand about you. You finished a college degree - why the fuck didn't you migrate, instead of feeding on sour grapes, like you do here everyday.

I am Moldovenist so I will never move outside Moldova. I also cannot live in apartment building so I could not stay in the city (I could barely do it in college, I lived on 10th floor). to buy a house in the city is impossible, only doctors can (don't tell me about affordable row houses, those are worse than apartments). so best option was countryside. and I enjoy it a lot, we only have one neighbour, for the rest it's field and forest is about 2 km away while lakes are 1km away. it's dirt or pebble roads but better this way, the area is not looked after, no sewage either, only water

[ixulescu]

I am Moldovenist so I will never move outside Moldova. I also cannot live in apartment building so I could not stay in the city (I could barely do it in college, I lived on 10th floor). to buy a house in the city is impossible, only doctors can (don't tell me about affordable row houses, those are worse than apartments). so best option was countryside. and I enjoy it a lot, we only have one neighbour, for the rest it's field and forest is about 2 km away while lakes are 1km away. it's dirt or pebble roads but better this way, the area is not looked after, no sewage either, only water

your needs are special my man :lol:

[Ion Basescul]

You aren't even from Romania, that wasn't about you.

Well, you were talking about Eastern EU. A lot of people in my generation share those values of equality, fair treatment based on meritocracy, and justice, which form the core of Western identiy.

[Nurzat]

irl I avoid interacting with people that leave their region - and I dislike a lot the Moldovans that go to Cluj Bucharest Timisoara "to study and work" - they will all stay there forever and become useless for Moldova region. why not study and work in Moldova for less money in order to upgrade region? between moving to another region in Romania and moving to another country I choose another country, at least I won't hear the shitty accents of the people in Romania's other regions. also I cut contacts with female relatives that married foreigners. they would be a bad example for my kid.

[Leto]

Well, you were talking about Eastern EU. A lot of people in my generation share those values of equality, fair treatment based on meritocracy, and justice, which form the core of Western identiy.
I meant the Eastern members of the European Union. Whatever.

[Ion Basescul]

I meant the Eastern members of the European Union. Whatever.

I see, but we're an associated state with a trade and political agreement, so we'll join them at some point too.

[Leto]

irl I avoid interacting with people that leave their region - and I dislike a lot the Moldovans that go to Cluj Bucharest Timisoara "to study and work" - they will all stay there forever and become useless for Moldova region. why not study and work in Moldova for less money in order to upgrade region? between moving to another region in Romania and moving to another country I choose another country, at least I won't hear the shitty accents of the people in Romania's other regions. also I cut contacts with female relatives that married foreigners. they would be a bad example for my kid.
I think you'd also be fine in certain parts of Ukraine, SW in particular since you are fluent in Ukrainian. Those guys would prefer a Negro who speaks Ukrainian to someone like me for example xD

[ixulescu]

irl I avoid interacting with people that leave their region - and I dislike a lot the Moldovans that go to Cluj Bucharest Timisoara "to study and work" - they will all stay there forever and become useless for Moldova region. why not study and work in Moldova for less money in order to upgrade region? between moving to another region in Romania and moving to another country I choose another country, at least I won't hear the shitty accents of the people in Romania's other regions. also I cut contacts with female relatives that married foreigners. they would be a bad example for my kid.

you write one sane post followed by a mad one. so now Romanians are foreign in Moldova?

[Nurzat]

you write one sane post followed by a mad one. so now Romanians are foreign in Moldova?

in a way they are, aren't they? as Yankees are foreign in Texas or Georgia. I am not a nationalist. I am a regionalist. I understand nation, but I favour region, which is not ethnically exclusive (unlike nation). so as regionalist I am equally Moldovan to a Csango from Bacau, to a Lipovan from Iasi or to a Hutsul from Suceava. regionalism is way better than nationalism - in nationalism neighbours of different ethnic identity fight each other, in regionalism they cooperate and have same regional identity. so yes to us a Bucharester/Kluzser/Timishoran is more foreign than a Csango or a Hutsul and also than a Moldovan from Chisinau or Chernivtsi

[Jana]

in a way they are, aren't they? as Yankees are foreign in Texas or Georgia. I am not a nationalist. I am a regionalist.

Didn't you move to north Italy?

[ixulescu]

in a way they are, aren't they? as Yankees are foreign in Texas or Georgia. I am not a nationalist. I am a regionalist.

you're hilarious my man. you're not even fully Romanian, but you claim more rights to the land than a native, gtfo

[Leto]

you're hilarious my man. you're not even fully Romanian, but you claim more rights to the land than a native, gtfo
Moldavia is a medieval mix of Vlachs and Rusyns (which we all know means Russian :swl), so Nurzat is 100 percent native to his land.

[Nurzat]

Didn't you move to north Italy?

no, I was sent for one month to coordinate a business transfer

[ixulescu]

Moldavia is a medieval mix of Vlachs and Rusyns (which we all know means Russian :swl), so Nurzat is 100 percent native to his land.

Not necessarily. Romania took in countless Ukrainians and Russians in the past 200 years, far more than what was native. The Russian push to populate Southern Ukraine overflew in Romania.

There's no way for me to assess whether his Rusyn component is native or not. So I go by the Vlach component. In that regard he's 50% native.

[Ion Basescul]

Very specific forename and surname for both Romania's Moldavia and R. Moldova, but the person is full Ashkenazi autosomally.

Lupu

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
East_Med
35.39


2
West_Med
19.37


3
North_Atlantic
16.27


4
West_Asian
10.83


5
Baltic
7.06


6
Red_Sea
5.99


7
South_Asian
1.49


8
East_Asian
1.1


9
Northeast_African
1.08


10
Siberian
0.8


11
Oceanian
0.62

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Ashkenazi
3.26


2
Italian_Jewish
5.28


3
Sephardic_Jewish
6.06


4
South_Italian
6.08


5
East_Sicilian
6.11


6
Algerian_Jewish
6.5


7
Central_Greek
7.75


8
West_Sicilian
7.96


9
Tunisian_Jewish
9.46


10
Italian_Abruzzo
9.64


11
Libyan_Jewish
10.33


12
Greek_Thessaly
12.47


13
Cyprian
14.03


14
Tuscan
14.36


15
Lebanese_Muslim
17.4


16
Syrian
18.46


17
Samaritan
19.42


18
Palestinian
19.96


19
Lebanese_Druze
20.09


20
Jordanian
20.22

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

63.7%
Ashkenazi
+
36.3%
Italian_Jewish
@
1.52


2

90.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.2%
Erzya
@
1.57


3

90.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.3%
Kargopol_Russian
@
1.61


4

90.2%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
1.65


5

90.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.9%
Southwest_Russian
@
1.68


6

67.6%
Ashkenazi
+
32.4%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
1.7


7

91.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
8.6%
East_Finnish
@
1.76


8

90.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.4%
Russian_Smolensk
@
1.79


9

90.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.3%
Estonian_Polish
@
1.81


10

91.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
8.5%
Lithuanian
@
1.82


11

90.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.2%
Belorussian
@
1.82


12

89.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.3%
Ukrainian
@
1.83


13

89.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.5%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
1.87


14

87%
Italian_Jewish
+
13%
Moldavian
@
1.87


15

91.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
8.5%
Estonian
@
1.88


16

89.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.3%
South_Polish
@
1.89


17

91.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
8.6%
Finnish
@
1.9


18

90.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.6%
Polish
@
1.96


19

81%
Italian_Jewish
+
19%
Bulgarian
@
1.98


20

88%
Italian_Jewish
+
12%
Croatian
@
1.99



</tbody>

[Jana]

Moldavia is a medieval mix of Vlachs and Rusyns (which we all know means Russian :swl), so Nurzat is 100 percent native to his land.

Rusyn = white Croat :)

[Ion Basescul]

Rusyn = white Croat :)

Is that the Moldovan Gagauz Xenia Deli on your avatar?

[Nurzat]

Moldavia is a medieval mix of Vlachs and Rusyns (which we all know means Russian :swl), so Nurzat is 100 percent native to his land.

it's possible that the Neolithic Farmer/Mediterranean DNA of Moldovans is not brought by Vlachs but old remnant, because the region was heavily Mediterranean during neolithic - Trypillia/Cucuteni and Globular Amphora peoples in today's northeast Romania Moldova Ukraine and eastern Poland were almost pure Levantine/West Asian. this result below shows that Moldovans could just be a mix of Early Slavs and a local population that already had both Balto-Slavic-like genes (from Indo-Europeans who it's known populated Moldova too) and Mediterranean genes:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.8555% / 0.01855460
53.4 RUS_Sunghir_MA
46.6 Scythian_MDA


this could mean if true that we didn't even get Vlach genes or too much of it - I suspect there is no Vlach widespread DNA East of river Siret, only the mountains are heavily Vlach

[ixulescu]

Rusyn = white Croat :)

white Croat + Vlach: now you have rights to the land too :D gotta love Nurzat's arithmetic.

[Leto]

Very specific forename and surname for both Romania's Moldavia and R. Moldova, but the person is full Ashkenazi autosomally.

Lupu

HarappaWorld is pretty good for Jews. Can you add it please? Interesting to see a Moldavski Yevrey

[ixulescu]

it's possible that the Neolithic Farmer/Mediterranean DNA of Moldovans is not brought by Vlachs but old remnant, because the region was heavily Mediterranean during neolithic - Trypillia/Cucuteni and Globular Amphora peoples in today's northeast Romania Moldova Ukraine and eastern Poland were almost pure Levantine/West Asian. this result below shows that Moldovans could just be a mix of Early Slavs and a local population that already had both Balto-Slavic-like genes (from Indo-Europeans who it's known populated Moldova too) and Mediterranean genes:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.8555% / 0.01855460
53.4 RUS_Sunghir_MA
46.6 Scythian_MDA


this could mean if true that we didn't even get Vlach genes or too much of it - I suspect there is no Vlach widespread DNA East of river Siret, only the mountains are heavily Vlach

That Scythian is a Dacian, and so a Vlach. You do have Vlach genes, don't be a self hating piece of shit too.

[Ion Basescul]

HarappaWorld is pretty good for Jews. Can you add it please? Interesting to see a Moldavski Yevrey


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Caucasian
31.29


2
Mediterranean
24.53


3
SW-Asian
16.46


4
NE-Euro
14.38


5
Baloch
8.9


6
S-Indian
1.56


7
Beringian
0.73


8
Pygmy
0.65


9
E-African
0.61


10
Siberian
0.49


11
SE-Asian
0.28


12
Papuan
0.11

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
4.2


2
ashkenazi (harappa)
6.68


3
sephardic-jew (behar)
7.26


4
morocco-jew (behar)
7.79


5
tuscan (1000genomes)
14.37


6
tuscan (hgdp)
14.94


7
tuscan (hapmap)
15.52


8
turk-aydin (hodoglugil)
15.64


9
cypriot (behar)
18.41


10
lebanese (behar)
19.01


11
turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)
20.64


12
turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)
20.85


13
syrian (behar)
21.22


14
palestinian (harappa)
21.43


15
jordanian (behar)
21.77


16
turkish (harappa)
22.05


17
lebanese-muslim (haber)
22.08


18
turk (behar)
22.27


19
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
22.31


20
italian (hgdp)
22.41

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

51.4%
syrian (behar)
+
48.6%
italian (hgdp)
@
2.41


2

51.1%
palestinian (harappa)
+
48.9%
italian (hgdp)
@
2.71


3

54.2%
lebanese (behar)
+
45.8%
italian (hgdp)
@
2.73


4

57.1%
lebanese-christian (haber)
+
42.9%
spaniard (1000genomes)
@
2.77


5

87.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
12.4%
orcadian (hgdp)
@
2.8


6

59.8%
lebanese-muslim (haber)
+
40.2%
spaniard (1000genomes)
@
2.84


7

87%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
13%
utahn-white (hapmap)
@
2.89


8

86.8%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
13.2%
n-european (xing)
@
2.93


9

63.5%
lebanese (behar)
+
36.5%
spaniard (1000genomes)
@
2.96


10

87.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
12.9%
british (1000genomes)
@
2.96


11

86.8%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
13.2%
utahn-white (1000genomes)
@
2.96


12

88.4%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
11.6%
mordovian (yunusbayev)
@
3


13

60.5%
syrian (behar)
+
39.5%
spaniard (behar)
@
3.03


14

89.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
10.9%
russian (hgdp)
@
3.04


15

58.6%
tuscan (hapmap)
+
41.4%
jordanian (behar)
@
3.05


16

84.9%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
15.1%
hungarian (behar)
@
3.1


17

95.1%
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
brahui (hgdp)
@
3.12


18

90.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
9.9%
lithuanian (behar)
@
3.12


19

56.7%
lebanese-druze (haber)
+
43.3%
spaniard (1000genomes)
@
3.16


20

50.7%
jordanian (behar)
+
49.3%
italian (hgdp)
@
3.17



</tbody>

[Nurzat]

That Scythian is a Dacian, and so a Vlach. You do have Vlach genes, don't be a self hating piece of shit too.

if that is a Dacian he is a local Dacian, not a Vlach. Vlachs came with their Latin dialect after 1200 to the region. it's absurd to impose Vlach name over a sample centuries BC. Vlachs lived the mountain corridor that goes from Thessaly to Macedonia to Timok to Caraș to Apuseni. that's where they spread from. Vlach dialect of Moldova is directly descended from Maramures, it's enough to hear them. anyway future Moldova seems to have had the Indo-European+Mediterranean mix before Vlachs, Moldovan scientists should check this hypothesis - if Vlach DNA is minimal East of Siret. but with ancient and medieval samples first, because now even many Bessarabians have some Transylvanian ancestry (those bejinari named Ungureanu and not only)

[Ion Basescul]

That guy Boicu that we have at the beginning of the list in the undetermined category is from Iasi. Apparently we are relatives on MyHeritage.




<tbody>
1
Baltic
30.57


2
North_Atlantic
20.77


3
West_Med
15.51


4
East_Med
12.12


5
West_Asian
11.77


6
Red_Sea
3.48


7
South_Asian
2.53


8
Oceanian
1.46


9
Siberian
1.45


10
Amerindian
0.35

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
5.34


2
Serbian
7.7


3
Romanian
8.62


4
Croatian
9.01


5
Bulgarian
9.76


6
Hungarian
11.71


7
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.07


8
Austrian
15.52


9
Ukrainian
15.74


10
South_Polish
15.86


11
East_German
16.36


12
Greek_Thessaly
17.78


13
Southwest_Russian
18.31


14
Ukrainian_Belgorod
18.34


15
Polish
18.91


16
Tatar
19.33


17
Russian_Smolensk
20.3


18
Estonian_Polish
20.99


19
West_German
21.6


20
Kargopol_Russian
21.65

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

89.5%
Moldavian
+
10.5%
Syrian
@
2.61


2

90.1%
Moldavian
+
9.9%
Georgian_Jewish
@
2.64


3

90.6%
Moldavian
+
9.4%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
2.65


4

90.5%
Moldavian
+
9.5%
Iranian_Jewish
@
2.69


5

90.3%
Moldavian
+
9.7%
Assyrian
@
2.69


6

88.2%
Moldavian
+
11.8%
Turkish
@
2.75


7

89.7%
Moldavian
+
10.3%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
2.76


8

90.1%
Moldavian
+
9.9%
Iranian
@
2.76


9

90.5%
Moldavian
+
9.5%
Armenian
@
2.79


10

89.1%
Moldavian
+
10.9%
Azeri
@
2.86


11

90.2%
Moldavian
+
9.8%
Kurdish
@
2.89


12

90.5%
Moldavian
+
9.5%
Bedouin
@
2.89


13

90.7%
Moldavian
+
9.3%
Samaritan
@
2.9


14

91%
Moldavian
+
9%
Lebanese_Christian
@
2.94


15

90.4%
Moldavian
+
9.6%
Jordanian
@
2.96


16

89.7%
Moldavian
+
10.3%
Cyprian
@
2.98


17

90.8%
Moldavian
+
9.2%
Palestinian
@
3.08


18

92.4%
Moldavian
+
7.6%
Saudi
@
3.24


19

91.2%
Moldavian
+
8.8%
Lebanese_Druze
@
3.25


20

91.6%
Moldavian
+
8.4%
Georgian
@
3.42


</tbody>

[ixulescu]

if that is a Dacian he is a local Dacian, not a Vlach. Vlachs came with their Latin dialect after 1200 to the region. it's absurd to impose Vlach name over a sample centuries BC. Vlachs lived the mountain corridor that goes from Thessaly to Macedonia to Timok to Caraș to Apuseni. that's where they spread from.

where's the evidence they moved at all? genetically Romanians fit Romania and not Macedonia.

where's the historical evidence than the largest population in the Balkans moved north of Danube in 1200? there is none, because it never happened.

but it's obvious why you like to dream about such nonsense, because you think it legitimizes moldovenism.

[Jana]

Is that the Moldovan Gagauz Xenia Deli on your avatar?

No, Croatian girl from Dalmatia :)
check out this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316569-classify-2-Dalmatian-Croat-girls

[Aspirin]

it's possible that the Neolithic Farmer/Mediterranean DNA of Moldovans is not brought by Vlachs but old remnant, because the region was heavily Mediterranean during neolithic - Trypillia/Cucuteni and Globular Amphora peoples in today's northeast Romania Moldova Ukraine and eastern Poland were almost pure Levantine/West Asian. this result below shows that Moldovans could just be a mix of Early Slavs and a local population that already had both Balto-Slavic-like genes (from Indo-Europeans who it's known populated Moldova too) and Mediterranean genes:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.8555% / 0.01855460
53.4 RUS_Sunghir_MA
46.6 Scythian_MDA


this could mean if true that we didn't even get Vlach genes or too much of it - I suspect there is no Vlach widespread DNA East of river Siret, only the mountains are heavily Vlach

Southern genes here are mostly of Vlach origin, because outside of Moldova people start to have very northern results, I mean in Ukraine. And in the north this southern influence is gowing only via Carpathian mountains reaching Poland. Plus in Carpathians concetration of E-V13 is very high (16%), wich is totally anormal for Eastern Slavs. Plus the toponymy of Carpathians clearly show who brought this southern influence here.

[Ion Basescul]

Southern genes here are mostly of Vlach origin, because outside of Moldova people start to have very northern results, I mean in Ukraine. And in the north this southern influence is gowing only via Carpathian mountains reaching Poland. Plus in Carpathians concetration of E-V13 is very high (16%), wich is totally anormal for Eastern Slavs. Plus the toponymy of Carpathians clearly show who brought this southern influence here.

It is abnormal, because Eastern Slavs migrated from the Pripyat' marshes here.
E-V13 was recorded in these parts in the Iron Age. The sample from R. Moldova, scy197 in Glinoe, was an E-V13 from 600BC. Most likely a Getae.

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Population
Region
Anatolia_N
CHG
WHG
EHG
Levant_N
Iran_N
East Asian
SSA
AASI
SUM


Scythian_Moldova_197_Getae 600BC
Europe_Southeast
65.8%
11.7%
1.7%
20.0%
0.0%
0.0%
0.8%
0.0%
0.0%
100.0%

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[Ion Basescul]

;)


https://youtu.be/EYA6iF0E-kI

[Nurzat]

where's the evidence they moved at all? genetically Romanians fit Romania and not Macedonia.

where's the historical evidence than the largest population in the Balkans moved north of Danube in 1200? there is none, because it never happened.

but it's obvious why you like to dream about such nonsense, because you think it legitimizes moldovenism.

I didn't say they came from south of the Danube only - see I said they lived from Thessaly up to Apuseni the entire mountain region. in Romania therefore they spread from the southwest BUT the language spread politically in the past centuries for the most, so we must separate DNA from language. as I've posted before, half of Moldova's territory 100 years ago (including Bucovina) were Csango, Szekler, Rusyn, Hutsul, Lipovan, Goral and German villages. the linguistic Romanianization is something very recent. and the DNA Vlachization East of Siret did not happen - people in this region had similar DNA even two thousand years ago (see Scythian MDA on Global25). some little Vlach in some may be found, with the bejinari movement out of Transylvania and in southern Moldova from southern Romanians (aka Vlach-speaking Bulgaro-Vlachs).

btw for Wallachia - do you know just how many hundreds of Wallachian villages were Bulgarian ethnic up to WW2, for example? but if we think of 19th century or before?

[ixulescu]

half of Moldova's territory 100 years ago (including Bucovina) were Csango, Szekler, Rusyn, Hutsul, Lipovan, Goral and German villages.

This is pure nonsense.

Here's the minority map 100 years ago. Note that even in the Eastern half of Moldova minorities didn't pass 25% (except in the South, which is not even part of RM these days anyways). In the Western half of Moldova minorities were less than 15% (and mostly Jews by the way). The rest of your post is pure fantasy, Romanians always had the great majority of the population (even if some of it was recently assimilated) in Wallachia and Moldova. Only Transylvania was more multiethnic, but even there Romanians were more than half.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Romania_1930_ethnic_map_EN.png/1920px-Romania_1930_ethnic_map_EN.png

In the past 300 years Romania always had a continuous stream of immigrants from the neighbors (Bulgarian, Serbs, Jews, Ukrainians, and even Russians), but with the exception of Jews, they quickly assimilated (in a couple of generations). They were not native anyways - and so they did the sensible thing and assimilated into the majority.

[Mik20]

The name of the language is pretty much a non-issue in 2020.

It is not an issue, the language of moldovans is moldavian. The issue is in Romania, though, and not in the so called Moldova region, that is undoubtedly speaking moldavian, but in Transylvania as their intelligentsia are saying the language spoken in Transylvania is moldavian. Even Stati on the cover of the moldavian-romanian dictionary showed that in Transylvania it is spoken the moldavian language. In fact only in some parts of Transylvania it is spoken and those parts happened to be those where the last name Moldovan abound, being the most frequent family name in those areas.

Now look what the romanian intelligentsia are saying at about 0:40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utiWRTUwDcg

But is it true or not?

Well well, well, chica, chicior, copchil are moldavian words, so it is true, the language there is modavian with hungarian accent and romanian influences.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNKvStx150k

[ixulescu]

It is not an issue, the language of moldovans is moldavian. The issue is in Romania, though, and not in the so called Moldova region, that is undoubtedly speaking moldavian, but in Transylvania as their intelligentsia are saying the language spoken in Transylvania is moldavian. Even Stati on the cover of the moldavian-romanian dictionary showed that in Transylvania it is spoken the moldavian language. In fact only in some parts of Transylvania it is spoken and those parts happened to be those where the last name Moldovan abound, being the most frequent family name in those areas.


There is not such thing as the Moldovan language. If it was I wouldn't understand it. The language used in Moldovan media is 100% Romanian, but for the accent.


Moldovenism is a just a comical attempt by the former communists in Chisinau to remain in power. Of course the union with Romania would have removed these bandits from power, so they cling to Russia and this nonsensical ideology of moldovenism.

I can only assume that artsi/Mik20 and aspirin are tied somehow to the power system in Chisinau, cause it's hard to find dumber cheerleaders anywhere else.

[Mik20]

There is not such thing as the Moldovan language. If it was I wouldn't understand it. The language used in Moldovan media is 100% Romanian, but for the accent.


You are entitled to call your language as you want. The language used in media, both in Romania and unfortunately in Moldova too it is an artificial one, people don't use it in the everyday life.

Now, even so, Romanian language is a 19th century artificial creation, who took quite a bit of influence from moldavian language as the every day valachian language is extremely limited. According even to their intellectuals and linguists who wrote with pity about their poor language when compared to the moldavian one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf6-ULSmviM

Now, how many languages the meteo girl from Moldova is speaking in the following video? Obviously not two. She is speaking russian. Then a sterile disgusting dead artificial language that in Romania is called romanian and used only in media, but in Moldova can be called moldovan media language unless they use wallachian words. She is also speaking a third language, off camera, the rich moldavian language, the language of Ion Creanga, full of style, flavors, sayings, puns.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZVTPqdhZqc

Now, it is obviously the inferior Romanian language needs to go.

Guys like basescul that tries to promote in Moldova a vastly inferior culture and language are the laughing stock of moldovans. All guys like him have huge personal issues, inferiority complexes, losers or are simply very dumb.

[Ion Basescul]

It is not an issue,

Lol, it was Romanian in kindergarten, school and uni. I did my first 4 classes in primary school in a Russian school, and even there the language and literature class was called Romanian.

[Mik20]

Lol, it was Romanian in kindergarten, school and uni. I did my first 4 classes in primary school in a Russian school, and even there the language and literature class was called Romanian.

Unlike you, the normal people learn to speak from their parents. So, unless you are an idiot, you get both the language and how it is named from your parents. But we all know that you are one.
As I wrote, not an issue. Now, back to the topic!

[Leto]

Unlike you, the normal people learn to speak from their parents. So, unless you are an idiot, you get both the language and how it is named from your parents. But we all know that you are one.
Do you like the mixture of Romanian and Russian?

[Ion Basescul]

Unlike you, the normal people learn to speak from their parents. So, unless you are an idiot, you get both the language and how it is named from your parents. But we all know that you are one.
As I wrote, not an issue. Now, back to the topic!

My parents are literate fortunately, so it was Romanian and Russian, not Moldovan and Pridnestrovian from the very beginning.

[Mik20]

Do you like the mixture of Romanian and Russian?

Moldavian is not a mixture of romanian and russian. romanian is a mixture of moldavian and french.

Now, if you read what the author of the lyrics of anthem of Moldova said in 1917, acording to a romanian nationalist that was a witness, maybe some things will be more clear to you.

..after all of them, father Mateevici spoke a lot, abut thirty-forty minutes about all kind of strange things, his speech was a sort of lesson about history and literature, full of mistakes, though. He was saying that us here will learn our Moldavian language, used by the church, not the Frenchified language, used across the Prut (Romania), or the language used by the Bucharest newspapers, that is impossible to understand "like a kind of Tatar language". Moldavian language is very rich, as all the Russian texts can be translated with ease into Moldavian. As proofs he read till boredom translations made by him from Russian texts. He ended with an original poem of his: "Our Language".

Onisifor Ghibu (Romanian nationalist from Transylvania) "In the Whirlpool of the Russian Revolution. Notes from Basarabia of the year 1917", page 164.


He even wrote a poem about what romanians did to the moldavian language called „Noi nu ne intelegem” ("We do not understand each other"). Yet, the as usual that doesn't stop the bastards to consider his poem obout moldavian language "Our language" the most beautiful anthem dedicated to romanian language. The pages of Wikipedia dedicated to his poem and to Mateevici are an insult.

[Ion Basescul]

Moldavian is not a mixture of romanian and russian. romanian is a mixture of moldavian and french.

Now, if you read what the author of the lyrics of anthem of Moldova said in 1917, acording to a romanian nationalist that was a witness, maybe some things will be more clear to you.

..after all of them, father Mateevici spoke a lot, abut thirty-forty minutes about all kind of strange things, his speech was a sort of lesson about history and literature, full of mistakes, though. He was saying that us here will learn our Moldavian language, used by the church, not the Frenchified language, used across the Prut (Romania), or the language used by the Bucharest newspapers, that is impossible to understand "like a kind of Tatar language". Moldavian language is very rich, as all the Russian texts can be translated with ease into Moldavian. As proofs he read till boredom translations made by him from Russian texts. He ended with an original poem of his: "Our Language".

Onisifor Ghibu (Romanian nationalist from Transylvania) "In the Whirlpool of the Russian Revolution. Notes from Basarabia of the year 1917", page 164.


He even wrote a poem about what Romanians did to the moldavian language called „Noi nu ne intelegem” ("We do not understand each other"). Yet, the as usual that doesn't stop the bastards to consider his poem obout moldavian language "Our language" the most beautiful anthem dedicated to romanian language. The pages of Wikipedia dedicated to his poem and to Mateevici are an insult to humanity as a lot of things touched by romanians.

You do realise that you will get banned again soon?

[Mik20]

My parents are literate fortunately, so it was Romanian and Russian, not Moldovan and Pridnestrovian from the very beginning.

So you have to be literate to have a maternal language? For hundreds of thousands of years till writing was invented, there were no languages and they had no names? Man, don't waste out time with you bullshit.

[Mik20]

You do realise that you will get banned again soon?

You got a report for this.

[Leto]

Transnistria is about 1/3 Moldovan ethnically and they still write in Cyrillic, though I presume they would rather use Russian for writing.

[Ion Basescul]

So you have to be literate to have a maternal language? For hundreds of thousands of years till writing was invented, there were no languages and they had no names? Man, don't waste out time with you bullshit.

You have to be literate to understand that it's a synonym for the same thing. That's why in the 21st century, the plurality of Moldovans call it Romanian in Chisinau, the uncontested cultural centre of the country.
Cavemen can carry on calling it Moldovan and seeing conspiracies and the imaginary destruction of Moldovan identity and nation if they want to. Nothing will change in the real world.

[Mik20]

You have to be literate to understand that it's a synonym for the same thing.

So you saying romanians are speaking moldavian? And if they are synonymous, why there is such a massive propaganda work to remove everything moldavian? That is exactly what cultural genocide is. And you are guilty of it, as I bet this is how you earn you poor payslip.

[Ion Basescul]

So you saying romanians are speaking moldavian? And if they are synonymous, why there is such a massive propaganda work to remove everything moldavian? That is exactly what cultural genocide is. And you are guilty of it, as I bet this is how you earn you poor payslip.

You can spare me the bullshit. All this piss talk is wasteful, because at the end of the day, when you were looking for a job, you 100% wrote Romanian in your CV. Otherwise, nobody would have taken you seriously, even if you might have had all the necessary skills, and you know that.
I'm not arguing any longer on language questions with you. It's been Romanian in mandatory education for 30 years already. It's time to adapt with the times, old man.

[Leto]

Spanish, English, Portuguese, French can be different too but nobody claims those are separate languages instead of dialects/accents/regional varieties. No way in hell the difference between Bucharest and Chisinau is greater than, say, between London and Dublin or Paris and Montreal.

[Nurzat]

You do realise that you will get banned again soon?

why? I see him backing up all he says on history topics with strong citations

[Ion Basescul]

why? I see him backing up all he says on history topics with strong citations

And I also see insults towards a whole nation. This guy was already banned once under the name of artsi.

[Mik20]

Times are changing, alright, but the truth is eternal. All you can do is deceit for a while and gain some temporary ground.
In my CV I write in the same language that is used in the Constitution of Moldova - limba moldovenească.

The realities of romanian present and past, your looks, culture, language are insults to you? That is sad.

As for my age, you wrong as usual.

[Ion Basescul]

Times are changing, alright, but the truth is eternal. All you can do is deceit for a while and gain some temporary ground.
In my CV I write in the same language that is used in the Constitution of Moldova - limba moldovenească.

The realities of romanian present and past, your looks, culture, language are insults to you? That is sad.

As for my age, you wrong as usual.

They are not insults to me, I'm just saying that with each passing day, Moldovan comes closer to being an archaism. Even my great-grandparents, who have only been to Romania with a rifle in hand during WW2, realised that it's the same thing. That's how outdated you are.

[Mik20]

They are not insults to me, I'm just saying that with each passing day, Moldovan comes closer to being an archaism. Even my great-grandparents, who have only been to Romania with a rifle in hand during WW2, realised that it's the same thing. That's how outdated you are.

Ok, so lets be clear, you are a representative of the Romanian minority of Moldova. You are not moldovan and don't represent in any way, shape of form the moldovans, that are constitute the vast majority of the population of Moldova and they speak moldovan language. I am well aware what is happening in schools and media, and the impact that it had on the weaker segments of the youth. But that will have to change and it will change. The Romanian minority will have its own schools where they can learn Marin Preda, Caragiale, about Vlad the Impaler and so on, their own language and history, their own media. The moldavians will have their own schools where they will study Neculce, Creanga, Sadoveanu, Mateevici and learn about Bogdan, Stephen the Great and others moldovans that fought, lived and died for Moldova and their own media.

This is the only proper way to do things right in Moldova.

[Mik20]

why? I see him backing up all he says on history topics with strong citations

That happenes when somebody has no arguments and character. Speaks a lot about this guy.

[Coastal Elite]

Moldova Highly ‘Vulnerable’ to Russian Propaganda, Study Says, starts on page 209:

http://prismua.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/DRI_CEE_2018.pdf
https://balkaninsight.com/2018/07/26/moldova-the-most-vulnerable-country-to-russian-propaganda-07-26-2018/

‘Compared to Ukraine, the Republic of Moldova presents a worse political
situation in the relationship with pro-Kremlin propaganda. The Ukrainians
have banned the pro-Russia Regions Party, and we still have the Socialists
Party. Together with President Igor Dodon and the affiliated media holding they
represent the key threat to our information security’.[ 4 ]

From an economic standpoint, Moldova remains Europe’s most
impoverished economy. In 2014, 1 billion USD was stolen from three
Moldovan banks: Banca de Economii, Unibank, and Banca Sociala.
The theft had a political component with the implication of the former
prime minister, Vlad Filat, who was sentenced in the case, as well as other
high-level officials. As one of our anonymous respondents put it, ‘poverty is an important factor in the sensitivity to propaganda, as a person
striving to feed oneself will not have the time to consume media content,
and if one does, it will not be quality content’.[ 5 ]

[Mik20]

Moldova Highly ‘Vulnerable’ to Russian Propaganda, Study Says, starts on page 209:

http://prismua.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/DRI_CEE_2018.pdf
https://balkaninsight.com/2018/07/26/moldova-the-most-vulnerable-country-to-russian-propaganda-07-26-2018/

I bet is just romanian propaganda about mostly imaginary russian propaganda. The census numbers are a proof about who is destroying the moldavians through propaganda.

[Coastal Elite]

I bet is just romanian propaganda about mostly imaginary russian propaganda. The census numbers are a proof about who is destroying the moldavians through propaganda.

Your country isn't broke and plagued with alcoholism? That is just propaganda? I don't dislike Moldovans but you guys sure talk a lot of shit for being the most impoverished country in Europe. Maybe get your own house in order, then talk shit online later. Btw, Russians are broke as fuck too, shitty role model for you guys.

[Nurzat]

I bet is just romanian propaganda about mostly imaginary russian propaganda. The census numbers are a proof about who is destroying the moldavians through propaganda.

I am lucky to have learnt Moldavian from my maternal side real preserved Moldavian village like in a time bubble. unfortunately it is also true that in 70% of Moldova west of Prut people use an urbanised Vlachised version: ci faci băi Moldavian replaced ши фашь ўэй Moldavian in maybe 3/4 of Moldova region on here

[ixulescu]

You got a report for this.

did you also report your sock account? don't forget to do it.

[Aspirin]

https://sun9-27.userapi.com/c852036/v852036467/b820f/wopKNSEqvbk.jpg

[Mik20]

I am lucky to have learnt Moldavian from my maternal side real preserved Moldavian village like in a time bubble. unfortunately it is also true that in 70% of Moldova west of Prut people use an urbanised Vlachised version: ci faci băi Moldavian replaced ши фашь ўэй Moldavian in maybe 3/4 of Moldova region on here

I will open a thread on Regional where we can gather Youtube videos with Moldavian language from both sides of Prut. Hope you will join.

[Nurzat]

I will open a thread on Regional where we can gather Youtube videos with Moldavian language from both sides of Prut. Hope you will join.

well while East of Prut people speak in front of camera as they normally do in their day to day life, in Romania people switch to standard language from Bucharest in almost any official thing, because Romania promotes Moldovan dialect shaming. so it will be hard to get to see real Moldovans speak real dialect to a camera. but I can help with my Vaslui county language knowledge, I can register myself and compare regional words and also give insights for different other counties (my wive's, my dad's, the Moldova Capital Region Iasi etc)

[ixulescu]

well while East of Prut people speak in front of camera as they normally do in their day to day life, in Romania people switch to standard language from Bucharest in almost any official thing, because Romania promotes Moldovan dialect shaming. so it will be hard to get to see real Moldovans speak real dialect to a camera. but I can help with my Vaslui county language knowledge, I can register myself and compare regional words and also give insights for different other counties (my wive's, my dad's, the Moldova Capital Region Iasi etc)

Romania promotes dialect shaming?? I've never heard of such thing.

If you refer to people teasing each other for their accents, this sometimes happens, but in good fun. I see no ill will in that.

I posted this skit before, with the Hungarian and Transylvanian accents, IMO it's very funny:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IF_fp1eU8M

[Coastal Elite]

well while East of Prut people speak in front of camera as they normally do in their day to day life, in Romania people switch to standard language from Bucharest in almost any official thing, because Romania promotes Moldovan dialect shaming. so it will be hard to get to see real Moldovans speak real dialect to a camera. but I can help with my Vaslui county language knowledge, I can register myself and compare regional words and also give insights for different other counties (my wive's, my dad's, the Moldova Capital Region Iasi etc)

Would Moldovans give up mamaliga to distinguish themselves from Romania? This is the questions. As long as you keep mamaliga in the diet there is too much cultural overlap with swarthy Romanians and this is too confusing for the outside observers.

[Nurzat]

@mods: I cannot thumb up my posts, the button is greyed out

[Aspirin]

I don't want go into another useless discussion about identity, but people here always called themselves Moldavians and their language Moldavian. Is not just a coindicdence what Romanian identity, is more like a trend, not like a real nationalism, and is specific mostly for urban heterogenous societiy, not rural area, were people are more homogenous. I never criticize local individuals who identify herself as Romanians, until they start to attack personally me, since vast majority show aggressivity, and love very much to mock and insult, in general they love to mock their own identity, wich is specefic for Western liberals who hate their White identity, vast majority of pro-Romanians are very pro gay, pro multiculturalism, equality. As Ixulescu wrote many times, to be a Romanian you don't need to care about your origins, in fact is more good to forget about them, this is how a real Romanian need to be, bassically you need to be a mongrel. The incident which happen early in this thread, when Basescul posted a video from Caplani, when in the begining is hear simple local peasant music, wich for him sound alien and "Bulgarian", pretty much show what I said above.

Some good Moldavian peasant music which is totally atypical for Romania.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDC-Umw_1ec

[ixulescu]

I don't want go into another useless discussion about identity, but people here always called themselves Moldavians and their language Moldavian.

Bullshit. Moldova was founded by Vlachs, and every Vlach calls himself roman/arman etc, always did.

Until literacy became more widespread (17th century and later), I bet most inhabitants didn't even know the country they lived in was called Moldova. Even when Moldovan came into use, Ruman was used more frequently, because in medieval times people didn't connect the ethnicity with the state, and state was not tied to ethnicities either. This is a very important point that shows how ridiculous the moldovenists really are: there were no ethnic states in medieval times, but moldovenists say Moldova was one.



Is not just a coindicdence what Romanian identity, is more like a trend, not like a real nationalism, and is specific mostly for urban heterogenous societiy, not rural area, were people are more homogenous. I never criticize local individuals who identify herself as Romanians, until they start to attack personally me, since vast majority show aggressivity, and love very much to mock and insult, in general they love to mock their own identity, wich is specefic for Western liberals who hate their White identity, vast majority of pro-Romanians are very pro gay, pro multiculturalism, equality. As Ixulescu wrote many times, to be a Romanian you don't need to care about your origins, in fact is more good to forget about them, this is how a real Romanian need to be, bassically you need to be a mongrel.


No, you're not quoting me properly. What I said is that Romanians are not tribal and that Romanians easily accept immigrants from the neighboring countries for two reasons: the neighbors are both genetically and culturally similar and have proven in the past that they assimilate very fast.

Romanians are not pro-multiculturalism, but the whole region where Romania stands is very similar culturally - so they are accepting of cultural input from the neighbors. At the same time, Romanians do not accept these stale forms of Romanian-ness, the kind you are exhibiting here: only "certain ways of speech are authentic", only "certain kinds of folk music are not fake" etc. These are airs and graces of small minded rural folk.

[Ion Basescul]

Ok, so lets be clear, you are a representative of the Romanian minority of Moldova. You are not moldovan and don't represent in any way, shape of form the moldovans, that are constitute the vast majority of the population of Moldova and they speak moldovan language. I am well aware what is happening in schools and media, and the impact that it had on the weaker segments of the youth. But that will have to change and it will change. The Romanian minority will have its own schools where they can learn Marin Preda, Caragiale, about Vlad the Impaler and so on, their own language and history, their own media. The moldavians will have their own schools where they will study Neculce, Creanga, Sadoveanu, Mateevici and learn about Bogdan, Stephen the Great and others moldovans that fought, lived and died for Moldova and their own media.

This is the only proper way to do things right in Moldova.

Literally everyone in R. Moldova who choose to identify as Romanian has roots solely from Republic of Moldova, and that includes me and my ancestors. Deal with it.

[Aspirin]

Bullshit. Moldova was founded by Vlachs, and every Vlach calls himself roman/arman etc, always did.

Vlach is not the same as Romanian.

[ixulescu]

Vlach is not the same as Romanian.

Vlachs living on the territory of the present day Romania in the 11th century and later were proper Romanians. By 11th century they had already split from Vlachs living South of Danube.

[Coastal Elite]

Vlach is not the same as Romanian.

Vlach is a vague word and everyone has their own idea of what it means. There is not real consensus on the meaning of the word.

[Aspirin]

Vlachs living on the territory of present day Romania in the 11th century and later were proper Romanians. By 11th century they had already split from Vlachs living South of Danube.

Give me sources from Medieval times where they call themselves Romanians. Plus explain why Romanian identity was promoted by elite (very heterogeneous by origin), but wasn't the identity of simple peasants.

[Ion Basescul]

https://sun9-27.userapi.com/c852036/v852036467/b820f/wopKNSEqvbk.jpg

Exact reactia mea. Pe cand artsi ne-a demonstrat inca o data unde se pozitioneaza pe spectrul autistic, eu am invatat sa lucrez cu PLINK si Eigensoft.

Si am reusit sa culeg raw data mostrelor din Stefan Voda, pe care le-am convertat in format 23andme.

Plus la asta, un user de pe apricity mi-a atras atentia la un studiu de care eu nu stiam.
https://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-017-0578-3/

In studiu se scrie ca au cules 32 de mostre dintr-o locatie din Moldova, pe care am cautat-o dupa coordonate si pare sa fie orasul Straseni.
I-am contactat pe 2 dintre autori si ei mi-au transmis toate datele din studiu, iar eu de acolo am extras ceea ce ne intereseaza, moldovenii.
Tot i-am convertat in format 23andme si acus voi lucra cu ei in Admixture Studio, ca sa vad ce rezultate inregistreaza in K13. Sa-mi scrii in PM, daca vrei sa-i incarci pe toti pe GEDmatch.

[Aspirin]

Exact reactia mea. Pe cand artsi ne-a demonstrat inca o data unde se pozitioneaza pe spectrul autistic, eu am invatat sa lucrez cu PLINK si Eigensoft.

Si am reusit sa culeg raw data mostrelor din Stefan Voda, pe care le-am convertat in format 23andme.

Plus la asta, un user de pe apricity mi-a atras atentia la un studiu de care eu nu stiam.
https://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-017-0578-3/

In studiu se scrie ca au cules 32 de mostre dintr-o locatie din Moldova, pe care am cautat-o dupa coordonate si pare sa fie orasul Straseni.
I-am contactat pe 2 dintre autori si ei mi-au transmis toate datele din studiu, iar eu de acolo am extras ceea ce ne intereseaza, moldovenii.
Tot i-am convertat in format 23andme si acus voi lucra cu ei in Admixture Studio, ca sa vad ce rezultate inregistreaza in K13. Sa-mi scrii in PM, daca vrei sa-i incarci pe toti pe GEDmatch.

Ok.

[Mik20]

I don't want go into another useless discussion about identity, but people here always called themselves Moldavians and their language Moldavian. Is not just a coindicdence what Romanian identity, is more like a trend, not like a real nationalism, and is specific mostly for urban heterogenous societiy, not rural area, were people are more homogenous. I never criticize local individuals who identify herself as Romanians, until they start to attack personally me, since vast majority show aggressivity, and love very much to mock and insult, in general they love to mock their own identity, wich is specefic for Western liberals who hate their White identity, vast majority of pro-Romanians are very pro gay, pro multiculturalism, equality. As Ixulescu wrote many times, to be a Romanian you don't need to care about your origins, in fact is more good to forget about them, this is how a real Romanian need to be, bassically you need to be a mongrel. The incident which happen early in this thread, when Basescul posted a video from Caplani, when in the begining is hear simple local peasant music, wich for him sound alien and "Bulgarian", pretty much show what I said above.

Some good Moldavian peasant music which is totally atypical for Romania.



There is a proper video for that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noz6iU3Wwr8

[Ion Basescul]

There is a proper video for that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noz6iU3Wwr8

Ok, that's enough bumping for today. I'll call on your services tomorrow too.

[Aspirin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5I6yTamsE

[Ion Basescul]

I also extracted those 9 Gagauz on top, so now I'm waiting for 52 tests to run.

That's how I feel while waiting for my potato PC to process them (that also happens to be my default song when cooking plov):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHy_LwaovZ0

[ixulescu]

Give me sources from Medieval times where they call themselves Romanians. Plus explain why Romanian identity was promoted by elite (very heterogeneous by origin), but wasn't the identity of simple peasants.

The elites didn't give a hoot about questions of identity, the only cared about social positions.

Regarding sources, from the earliest Moldovan chronicles the authors refer to inhabitants of Moldova as either Romanian or Moldovan, or they say that Moldovans are Romanians.

There are no prior proofs on how Moldovans referred to themselves. They might as well have called themselves Bulgarian, but we little reason to believe that.

[Aspirin]

The elites didn't give a hoot about questions of identity, the only cared about social positions.

Regarding sources, from the earliest Moldovan chronicles the authors refer to inhabitants of Moldova as either Romanian or Moldovan, or they say that Moldovans are Romanians.

There are no prior proofs on how Moldovans referred to themselves. They might as well have called themselves Bulgarian, but we little reason to believe that.

Explain this:



Însă Vlahia, acești gheografi și mai toț istoricii câț scriu de aceste țări, zicea și Moldovei, și ceștiia. Apoi o împarte în doauă: una de sus, alta de jos îi zic; le zic și mai mare și mai mică: cea de sus, adecăte și mai mare, Moldova, cea de jos și mai mică, Ţara această Muntenească numeind, cum îi zic mai mulți așa, că Rumânească numai lăcuitorii ei o chiamă, și doar unii den erdeleani, rumâni. Pentru că și aceia și ceștea numai când să întreabă ce iaste, ei răspund: rumâni. Iar moldoveanii să osebesc, de să răspund: moldovan, săvai că și ei sânt de un neam și de un rod cu ceștia, cum mai nainte mai pre larg vom arăta cu mărturiile multora.

[Leto]

I don't want go into another useless discussion about identity, but people here always called themselves Moldavians and their language Moldavian. Is not just a coindicdence what Romanian identity, is more like a trend, not like a real nationalism, and is specific mostly for urban heterogenous societiy, not rural area, were people are more homogenous. I never criticize local individuals who identify herself as Romanians, until they start to attack personally me, since vast majority show aggressivity, and love very much to mock and insult, in general they love to mock their own identity, wich is specefic for Western liberals who hate their White identity, vast majority of pro-Romanians are very pro gay, pro multiculturalism, equality. As Ixulescu wrote many times, to be a Romanian you don't need to care about your origins, in fact is more good to forget about them, this is how a real Romanian need to be, bassically you need to be a mongrel. The incident which happen early in this thread, when Basescul posted a video from Caplani, when in the begining is hear simple local peasant music, wich for him sound alien and "Bulgarian", pretty much show what I said above.

I guess many of them associate "Romanianism" with being pro-EU/NATO and you can't be against those things if you're pro-EU. Certainly not today, maybe 20 years ago. It's like the stupid "language nationalism" in Ukraine and to some extent Belarus. "I support liberalism, globalism, don't care about blood or race but God forbid you don't hate the Russian language."

[Ion Basescul]

https://i.imgur.com/xJoJIHM.png

[Aspirin]

I guess many of them associate "Romanianism" with being pro-EU/NATO and you can't be against those things if you're pro-EU.

Yes, but exist and the opposite current, in the face of local Moldovenism, which is mostly of Soviet origin, is not really nationalism. And these type of Moldovenists are pro-Russia people, most of them are not even ethnic Moldavians and don't speak the language, is bassicaly the oposite face of the same coin. Many Romanians try to impose what I support especially this type of Moldovenism, because such thing as ethnic Moldovenism don't exist at all. I put myself in the middle, since I don't suport any of these tendencies. One Romanian here without any reason even insulted me as "filthy Bessarabian" because of my position, without any negative attacks towards Romanians from my side.

This identity problem is one of reasons why is so shitty in RM today, and the only good solution I think is the most democartic way, to make a referendum, about language, about the future extern policy evolution, about name of the main population here, and to put a big end in this useless fight. But many oppose this, especially pro-Romanians. I voted in the last 10 years only for pro-EU/pro-Romanian parties, and I am very disapoined in them.

[Ion Basescul]

I will start posting Admixture Studio Oracles, nMonte and PCA for each one of them, but I won't finish everything today.
Moldavian reference is the one from the original Eurogenes K13 spreadsheet.

I will start with myself to show how the results will be formatted.

1) Ion Basescul_Chisinau


Components %
North_Atlantic 25.42
Baltic 29.37
West_Med 15.04
West_Asian 9.99
East_Med 12.91
Red_Sea 1.53
South_Asian 0.69
East_Asian 1.84
Siberian 2.84
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.37
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00




Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 82.42% Serbian + 17.58% Tatar @ 1.902
2 87.89% Serbian + 12.11% Chuvash @ 2.039
3 89.45% Serbian + 10.55% Mari @ 2.379
4 78.52% Romanian + 21.48% East_Finnish @ 2.436
5 76.17% Romanian + 23.83% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.606
6 55.08% Serbian + 44.92% Moldavian @ 2.631
7 50.39% Moldavian + 49.61% Serbian @ 2.672
8 78.52% Romanian + 21.48% Finnish @ 2.681
9 87.11% Serbian + 12.89% Erzya @ 2.743
10 61.33% Ukrainian + 38.67% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.763


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 4.744
2 100% Moldavian @ 5.484
3 100% Romanian @ 8.023
4 100% Croatian @ 8.636
5 100% Hungarian @ 8.989
6 100% Bulgarian @ 10.676
7 100% Austrian @ 13.395
8 100% East_German @ 14.784
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.519
10 100% South_Polish @ 16.340


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 2.667
2 50% Moldavian + 50% Romanian @ 3.187
3 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 3.255
4 50% Tuscan + 50% Erzya @ 3.277
5 50% Estonian + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.627
6 50% Kargopol_Russian + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.632
7 50% Kargopol_Russian + 50% Tuscan @ 3.719
8 50% Finnish + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.722
9 50% Italian_Abruzzo + 50% Estonian @ 3.873
10 50% Croatian + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.873


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Serbian + 33% Serbian + 33% Moldavian @ 2.825
2 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.854
3 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Romanian @ 2.926
4 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian @ 3.028
5 33% Moldavian + 33% Romanian + 33% Hungarian @ 3.089
6 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% South_Polish @ 3.146
7 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.172
8 33% Serbian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.241
9 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.248
10 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Italian @ 3.280


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% East_German + 25% Tatar @ 2.286
2 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% Tatar @ 2.510
3 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Tatar @ 2.611
4 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.631
5 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian @ 2.667
6 25% Erzya + 25% Erzya + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% South_Italian @ 2.741
7 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% East_Finnish @ 2.793
8 25% Kargopol_Russian + 25% Kargopol_Russian + 25% Tuscan + 25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.854
9 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Tatar @ 2.862
10 25% Erzya + 25% Erzya + 25% Italian_Abruzzo + 25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.890




nMonte
Distance: 2.02


55.80% Serbian
39.00% Moldavian
02.60% Kazakh
01.60% Tatar
00.40% Kirgiz
00.20% Nogay
00.20% Romanian
00.20% Xibo


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/85CGNvE.png

[Ion Basescul]

2) Ion Basescul_dad_Orhei



Components %
North_Atlantic 25.05
Baltic 32.29
West_Med 14.01
West_Asian 11.55
East_Med 12.00
Red_Sea 0.18
South_Asian 1.57
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 1.59
Amerindian 0.92
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.29
Sub-Saharan 0.56



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 87.89% Croatian + 12.11% Azeri @ 2.283
2 87.11% Croatian + 12.89% Turkish @ 2.320
3 89.45% Croatian + 10.55% Kurdish @ 2.323
4 89.45% Croatian + 10.55% Armenian @ 2.344
5 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Tabassaran @ 2.522
6 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Lezgin @ 2.524
7 87.89% Croatian + 12.11% Turkmen @ 2.553
8 89.45% Croatian + 10.55% Iranian @ 2.563
9 95.70% Moldavian + 4.30% Kurdish @ 2.582
10 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Kumyk @ 2.619


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 3.376
2 100% Croatian @ 6.561
3 100% Serbian @ 7.702
4 100% Hungarian @ 8.860
5 100% Romanian @ 10.643
6 100% Bulgarian @ 12.933
7 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.019
8 100% Austrian @ 13.875
9 100% South_Polish @ 13.969
10 100% Ukrainian @ 14.468


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.352
2 50% Moldavian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.376
3 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.458
4 50% Bulgarian + 50% South_Polish @ 3.535
5 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian @ 3.697
6 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian @ 3.873
7 50% Moldavian + 50% Serbian @ 4.022
8 50% Romanian + 50% South_Polish @ 4.116
9 50% Croatian + 50% Romanian @ 4.390
10 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.483


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.933
2 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.966
3 33% Serbian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.160
4 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Serbian @ 3.213
5 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.236
6 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Southwest_Russian @ 3.320
7 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian + 33% Romanian @ 3.322
8 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.376
9 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.392
10 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Erzya @ 3.396


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% Erzya @ 2.719
2 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% East_German + 25% Turkish @ 2.893
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Serbian @ 2.999
4 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Romanian @ 3.004
5 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Romanian @ 3.011
6 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Bulgarian @ 3.182
7 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Erzya @ 3.224
8 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% South_Polish @ 3.296
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.320
10 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.352


nMonte
Distance: 2.48


77.60% Moldavian
11.00% Hungarian
06.60% Romanian
03.40% Lezgin
00.80% Tabassaran
00.20% Bulgarian
00.20% Croatian
00.20% Serbian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/9rjQKUo.png

[Ion Basescul]

3) Ion Basescul_mom 1/2 Romanian/Moldovan Cahul 1/2 Ukrainian Briceni



Components %
North_Atlantic 20.02
Baltic 37.13
West_Med 15.57
West_Asian 9.83
East_Med 12.85
Red_Sea 0.67
South_Asian 0.99
East_Asian 1.49
Siberian 0.36
Amerindian 0.37
Oceanian 0.72
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 79.30% Ukrainian + 20.70% Cypriot @ 4.598
2 57.42% Bulgarian + 42.58% Erzya @ 4.747
3 62.11% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.89% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.913
4 81.64% Ukrainian + 18.36% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.009
5 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.030
6 50.39% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.61% Bulgarian @ 5.039
7 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Southwest_Russian @ 5.118
8 50.39% Southwest_Russian + 49.61% Bulgarian @ 5.124
9 81.64% Ukrainian + 18.36% Samaritan @ 5.127
10 62.11% Southwest_Russian + 37.89% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.165


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 6.419
2 100% Croatian @ 8.451
3 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12.546
4 100% Serbian @ 12.625
5 100% Ukrainian @ 13.461
6 100% Hungarian @ 14.379
7 100% South_Polish @ 14.631
8 100% Romanian @ 14.643
9 100% Bulgarian @ 15.494
10 100% Southwest_Russian @ 15.742


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.033
2 50% Bulgarian + 50% Southwest_Russian @ 5.120
3 50% Bulgarian + 50% Erzya @ 5.430
4 50% Lithuanian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.647
5 50% Bulgarian + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.896
6 50% Erzya + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.906
7 50% Bulgarian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 5.951
8 50% Ukrainian + 50% Bulgarian @ 6.000
9 50% Bulgarian + 50% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.159
10 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.329


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.184
2 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.234
3 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.246
4 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.267
5 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.278
6 33% Erzya + 33% Lithuanian + 33% South_Italian @ 5.352
7 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Russian_Smolensk + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.369
8 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.438
9 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% East_Sicilian @ 5.510
10 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% East_Sicilian @ 5.532


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Erzya @ 4.713
2 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Erzya @ 4.794
3 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.033
4 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.038
5 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian @ 5.120
6 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.253
7 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Cypriot @ 5.293
8 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Algerian_Jew @ 5.297
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 5.309
10 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.359


nMonte
Distance: 5.84


53.80% Moldavian
17.60% Bulgarian
15.80% Erzya
09.60% Ukrainian_Belgorod
03.20% Cypriot


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/0WNy7Nv.png

[Ion Basescul]

4) Moldova_725_R01C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 24.58
Baltic 31.08
West_Med 13.08
West_Asian 6.06
East_Med 16.71
Red_Sea 3.33
South_Asian 1.41
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 2.32
Amerindian 1.43
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 51.95% Estonian + 48.05% Ashkenazi @ 1.406
2 50.39% Ashkenazi + 49.61% Estonian @ 1.931
3 58.20% Estonian + 41.80% Algerian_Jew @ 1.963
4 58.20% Estonian + 41.80% Italian_Jew @ 1.972
5 58.20% Estonian + 41.80% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.438
6 62.89% Estonian_Polish + 37.11% Italian_Jew @ 2.537
7 62.89% Estonian_Polish + 37.11% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.603
8 62.11% Belorussian + 37.89% Italian_Jew @ 2.673
9 58.98% Polish + 41.02% Ashkenazi @ 2.695
10 59.77% Estonian + 40.23% Tunisian_Jew @ 2.771


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 6.853
2 100% Moldavian @ 8.268
3 100% Romanian @ 9.677
4 100% Croatian @ 9.957
5 100% Hungarian @ 10.615
6 100% Bulgarian @ 11.612
7 100% Austrian @ 15.700
8 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.151
9 100% East_German @ 16.834
10 100% South_Polish @ 16.859


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Estonian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 1.783
2 50% Estonian + 50% East_Sicilian @ 3.318
3 50% Finnish + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.618
4 50% Lithuanian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.701
5 50% Lithuanian + 50% West_Sicilian @ 3.733
6 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Belorussian @ 3.753
7 50% East_Finnish + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.900
8 50% Estonian + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.907
9 50% East_Finnish + 50% East_Sicilian @ 4.009
10 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 4.065


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 2.918
2 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.051
3 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% South_Polish + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.131
4 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.176
5 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.213
6 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Polish + 33% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.272
7 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.274
8 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.401
9 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.402
10 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.416


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2.190
2 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2.789
3 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.420
4 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.446
5 25% East_Finnish + 25% East_Finnish + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.457
6 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% North_Italian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.470
7 25% East_Finnish + 25% East_Finnish + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.492
8 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Samaritan @ 3.505
9 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% South_Dutch + 25% Samaritan @ 3.536
10 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Italian_Jew @ 3.546


nMonte

Distance: 4.73


70.20% Serbian
15.80% Estonian_Polish
06.00% Yemenite_Jew
02.80% Saami_Finland
02.80% Southwest_Russian
00.60% Croatian
00.60% Mari
00.60% West_Greenlander
00.40% Ashkenazi
00.20% Belorussian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/XbxB8Nf.png

[Ion Basescul]

5) Moldova_725_R01C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 22.22
Baltic 35.15
West_Med 17.59
West_Asian 12.03
East_Med 7.30
Red_Sea 1.37
South_Asian 1.25
East_Asian 1.49
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.81
Oceanian 0.09
Northeast_African 0.42
Sub-Saharan 0.28



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 97.27% Moldavian + 2.73% Kabardin @ 5.560
2 98.05% Moldavian + 1.95% Kalash @ 5.565
3 98.05% Moldavian + 1.95% Balochi @ 5.580
4 97.27% Moldavian + 2.73% North_Ossetian @ 5.580
5 97.27% Moldavian + 2.73% Balkar @ 5.588
6 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Erzya @ 5.588
7 98.05% Moldavian + 1.95% Brahui @ 5.590
8 97.27% Moldavian + 2.73% Chechen @ 5.595
9 98.05% Moldavian + 1.95% Ossetian @ 5.597
10 98.05% Moldavian + 1.95% Adygei @ 5.605


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 5.703
2 100% Croatian @ 7.623
3 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 11.624
4 100% Serbian @ 13.001
5 100% Hungarian @ 13.154
6 100% Ukrainian @ 13.188
7 100% South_Polish @ 13.997
8 100% Romanian @ 15.424
9 100% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 16.464
10 100% Southwest_Russian @ 16.792


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Moldavian + 50% Moldavian @ 5.703
2 50% Moldavian + 50% Croatian @ 6.349
3 50% Moldavian + 50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.334
4 50% Ukrainian_Lviv + 50% Bulgarian @ 7.468
5 50% Ukrainian_Lviv + 50% Romanian @ 7.555
6 50% Ukrainian + 50% Bulgarian @ 7.595
7 50% Croatian + 50% Croatian @ 7.623
8 50% Ukrainian + 50% Romanian @ 7.721
9 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 50% Bulgarian @ 7.754
10 50% Bulgarian + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.828


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian @ 5.703
2 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian @ 6.050
3 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.326
4 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Ukrainian @ 6.671
5 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian + 33% Croatian @ 6.718
6 33% Moldavian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Bulgarian @ 6.829
7 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Bulgarian @ 6.877
8 33% Moldavian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Romanian @ 6.916
9 33% Croatian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Bulgarian @ 7.048
10 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% South_Polish @ 7.230


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian @ 5.703
2 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian @ 5.930
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.970
4 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian @ 6.181
5 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Croatian @ 6.349
6 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.483
7 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Bulgarian @ 6.525
8 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.585
9 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Romanian @ 6.603
10 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% South_Polish @ 6.640


nMonte
Distance: 5.56


63.80% Moldavian
25.60% Ukrainian_Lviv
05.60% Kabardin
03.00% Sardinian
01.00% Erzya
01.00% Ukrainian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/mkqoE9Z.png

[Ion Basescul]

6) Moldova_725_R02C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 24.52
Baltic 36.71
West_Med 16.02
West_Asian 7.75
East_Med 10.27
Red_Sea 0.89
South_Asian 1.08
East_Asian 0.72
Siberian 2.03
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 73.83% Ukrainian + 26.17% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.450
2 78.52% Ukrainian + 21.48% Central_Greek @ 2.565
3 80.86% Ukrainian + 19.14% South_Italian @ 2.595
4 78.52% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 21.48% Sardinian @ 2.627
5 63.67% Ukrainian + 36.33% Bulgarian @ 2.634
6 79.30% Ukrainian + 20.70% East_Sicilian @ 2.673
7 75.39% Moldavian + 24.61% Ukrainian @ 2.844
8 82.42% Ukrainian + 17.58% Algerian_Jew @ 2.871
9 84.77% Moldavian + 15.23% Estonian_Polish @ 2.947
10 79.30% Ukrainian + 20.70% West_Sicilian @ 2.997


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Croatian @ 3.852
2 100% Moldavian @ 4.175
3 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.875
4 100% Ukrainian @ 9.938
5 100% Hungarian @ 10.028
6 100% South_Polish @ 10.483
7 100% Serbian @ 11.451
8 100% Southwest_Russian @ 13.820
9 100% Polish @ 14.002
10 100% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 14.333


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Croatian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.336
2 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.693
3 50% Croatian + 50% Croatian @ 3.852
4 50% Romanian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 3.897
5 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.904
6 50% Ukrainian + 50% Serbian @ 4.012
7 50% Ukrainian + 50% Romanian @ 4.081
8 50% Romanian + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.111
9 50% Moldavian + 50% Moldavian @ 4.175
10 50% Polish + 50% Bulgarian @ 4.215


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Bulgarian @ 2.745
2 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Bulgarian @ 2.796
3 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Ukrainian @ 3.062
4 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Bulgarian @ 3.123
5 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.343
6 33% Croatian + 33% Croatian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.355
7 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Romanian @ 3.393
8 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Romanian @ 3.395
9 33% Croatian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.481
10 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.511


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.503
2 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.818
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.845
4 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Central_Greek @ 2.982
5 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% South_Polish + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.083
6 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.189
7 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.200
8 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% East_Sicilian @ 3.260
9 25% Croatian + 25% Croatian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian @ 3.336
10 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% South_Polish @ 3.356


nMonte
Distance: 2.96


58.00% Moldavian
20.00% Ukrainian
12.80% Croatian
05.40% Erzya
03.40% Sardinian
00.40% Southwest_Russian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/uot3ceO.png

[Leto]

Moldova_725_R02C01_or.Straseni definitely looks half Ukrainian. More Northern than the already Northern-shifted Eurogenes average

75.39% Moldavian + 24.61% Ukrainian @ 2.844

[Ion Basescul]

7) Moldova_725_R02C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 26.86
Baltic 31.42
West_Med 17.53
West_Asian 9.84
East_Med 10.26
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 0.55
Siberian 1.85
Amerindian 1.00
Oceanian 0.14
Northeast_African 0.11
Sub-Saharan 0.45



Oracles
Mixed Mode:
1 91.02% Moldavian + 8.98% French_Basque @ 2.435
2 87.89% Moldavian + 12.11% Southwest_French @ 2.505
3 87.89% Moldavian + 12.11% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.669
4 89.45% Moldavian + 10.55% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.704
5 87.89% Moldavian + 12.11% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.767
6 88.67% Moldavian + 11.33% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.777
7 88.67% Moldavian + 11.33% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.782
8 88.67% Moldavian + 11.33% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.813
9 88.67% Moldavian + 11.33% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.931
10 88.67% Moldavian + 11.33% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.949


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 4.673
2 100% Croatian @ 6.398
3 100% Serbian @ 7.580
4 100% Hungarian @ 7.923
5 100% Romanian @ 11.106
6 100% Austrian @ 11.675
7 100% East_German @ 12.412
8 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.329
9 100% Bulgarian @ 13.713
10 100% South_Polish @ 14.093


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% North_Italian + 50% Erzya @ 4.103
2 50% Croatian + 50% Serbian @ 4.337
3 50% Moldavian + 50% Serbian @ 4.523
4 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.590
5 50% Moldavian + 50% Moldavian @ 4.673
6 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 50% North_Italian @ 4.719
7 50% Moldavian + 50% Hungarian @ 4.740
8 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian @ 4.783
9 50% Croatian + 50% Romanian @ 4.822
10 50% Romanian + 50% South_Polish @ 4.868


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian + 33% Serbian @ 3.977
2 33% Croatian + 33% Croatian + 33% Romanian @ 4.007
3 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Serbian @ 4.081
4 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian + 33% Romanian @ 4.143
5 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Austrian @ 4.182
6 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Hungarian @ 4.225
7 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Tuscan @ 4.331
8 33% Austrian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Bulgarian @ 4.351
9 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Tuscan @ 4.351
10 33% Croatian + 33% Croatian + 33% Serbian @ 4.408


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Austrian @ 3.819
2 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Serbian + 25% East_German @ 3.844
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Serbian + 25% Austrian @ 3.892
4 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Serbian + 25% Hungarian @ 3.958
5 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Serbian @ 3.978
6 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Romanian @ 4.028
7 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Serbian @ 4.044
8 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% East_German + 25% Ukrainian @ 4.076
9 25% North_Italian + 25% North_Italian + 25% Erzya + 25% Erzya @ 4.103
10 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Bulgarian + 25% North_Italian @ 4.121


nMonte
Distance: 3.13


83.80% Moldavian
05.80% French_Basque
04.60% Croatian
02.20% Romanian
02.00% Southwest_French
00.80% Serbian
00.40% Sardinian
00.20% Balkar
00.20% Hungarian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/tXQeROL.png

[Ion Basescul]

8) Moldova_746_R01C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 21.11
Baltic 32.22
West_Med 15.74
West_Asian 9.12
East_Med 16.60
Red_Sea 2.12
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 0.81
Siberian 1.11
Amerindian 0.03
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.93
Sub-Saharan 0.20



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 70.70% Ukrainian + 29.30% Cypriot @ 2.447
2 51.95% Greek_Thessaly + 48.05% Southwest_Russian @ 2.688
3 50.39% Southwest_Russian + 49.61% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.797
4 53.52% Estonian_Polish + 46.48% Central_Greek @ 2.948
5 58.20% Southwest_Russian + 41.80% East_Sicilian @ 2.966
6 51.95% Central_Greek + 48.05% Lithuanian @ 2.982
7 57.42% Southwest_Russian + 42.58% Central_Greek @ 3.032
8 61.33% Southwest_Russian + 38.67% South_Italian @ 3.045
9 51.95% Greek_Thessaly + 48.05% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.048
10 69.14% Bulgarian + 30.86% Southwest_Russian @ 3.051


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 7.453
2 100% Serbian @ 7.885
3 100% Romanian @ 8.979
4 100% Bulgarian @ 9.676
5 100% Croatian @ 10.476
6 100% Hungarian @ 13.540
7 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.788
8 100% Ukrainian @ 17.929
9 100% South_Polish @ 18.126
10 100% Austrian @ 18.518


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Southwest_Russian @ 2.757
2 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.157
3 50% Central_Greek + 50% Lithuanian @ 3.181
4 50% East_Sicilian + 50% Lithuanian @ 3.238
5 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.452
6 50% Lithuanian + 50% South_Italian @ 3.514
7 50% Belorussian + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.819
8 50% Ukrainian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.885
9 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 3.895
10 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.975


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Southwest_Russian @ 3.119
2 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.254
3 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.338
4 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.352
5 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.379
6 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.508
7 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Cypriot @ 3.570
8 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Polish + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.579
9 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Estonian_Polish @ 3.581
10 33% Polish + 33% Polish + 33% Cypriot @ 3.620


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian @ 2.757
2 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.898
3 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Erzya @ 3.126
4 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 3.176
5 25% East_Sicilian + 25% East_Sicilian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.238
6 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.250
7 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.261
8 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 3.305
9 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Ashkenazi + 25% South_Italian @ 3.384
10 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Erzya @ 3.415


nMonte
Distance: 4.39


59.00% Bulgarian
17.40% Southwest_Russian
16.40% Moldavian
05.60% Erzya
01.40% Yemenite_Jew
00.20% Estonian_Polish


PCA
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9) Moldova_746_R01C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 27.89
Baltic 28.60
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 10.43
East_Med 13.25
Red_Sea 0.43
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 0.20
Siberian 3.51
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.33
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 76.17% Romanian + 23.83% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.955
2 86.33% Serbian + 13.67% Tatar @ 3.267
3 78.52% Romanian + 21.48% Finnish @ 3.296
4 91.80% Serbian + 8.20% Saami_Finland @ 3.369
5 69.14% Bulgarian + 30.86% North_Swedish @ 3.400
6 51.17% Hungarian + 48.83% Romanian @ 3.435
7 50.39% Romanian + 49.61% Hungarian @ 3.440
8 91.02% Serbian + 8.98% Chuvash @ 3.463
9 92.58% Serbian + 7.42% Mari @ 3.469
10 69.92% Bulgarian + 30.08% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.471


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 4.627
2 100% Moldavian @ 7.337
3 100% Hungarian @ 7.939
4 100% Romanian @ 8.169
5 100% Croatian @ 9.543
6 100% Bulgarian @ 11.244
7 100% Austrian @ 11.737
8 100% East_German @ 13.468
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.452
10 100% South_Polish @ 16.686


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Hungarian + 50% Romanian @ 3.437
2 50% Hungarian + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.905
3 50% Italian_Abruzzo + 50% Estonian @ 3.964
4 50% Bulgarian + 50% East_German @ 4.231
5 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 4.293
6 50% Southwest_Finnish + 50% Central_Greek @ 4.308
7 50% Italian_Abruzzo + 50% Finnish @ 4.339
8 50% Serbian + 50% Hungarian @ 4.363
9 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 4.473
10 50% Bulgarian + 50% Austrian @ 4.475


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Moldavian + 33% Hungarian + 33% Romanian @ 3.510
2 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% North_Swedish @ 3.523
3 33% French + 33% Greek_Thessaly + 33% Erzya @ 3.624
4 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.641
5 33% Serbian + 33% Hungarian + 33% Romanian @ 3.672
6 33% Moldavian + 33% Romanian + 33% Austrian @ 3.673
7 33% Hungarian + 33% Hungarian + 33% Bulgarian @ 3.676
8 33% South_Dutch + 33% Greek_Thessaly + 33% Erzya @ 3.718
9 33% Moldavian + 33% Hungarian + 33% Bulgarian @ 3.740
10 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.821


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.992
2 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.083
3 25% Hungarian + 25% Hungarian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian @ 3.437
4 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% North_Swedish @ 3.496
5 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Finnish @ 3.522
6 25% Hungarian + 25% Hungarian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian @ 3.567
7 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% North_Swedish @ 3.606
8 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Croatian + 25% Austrian @ 3.610
9 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Finnish @ 3.702
10 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% South_Polish @ 3.709


nMonte
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10) Moldova_746_R02C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 26.74
Baltic 30.55
West_Med 12.91
West_Asian 10.08
East_Med 14.54
Red_Sea 0.86
South_Asian 1.10
East_Asian 0.20
Siberian 2.93
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.09
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 75.39% Romanian + 24.61% Finnish @ 2.257
2 76.17% Romanian + 23.83% East_Finnish @ 2.345
3 69.92% Bulgarian + 30.08% Finnish @ 2.578
4 68.36% Bulgarian + 31.64% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.712
5 76.17% Romanian + 23.83% Estonian @ 2.821
6 84.77% Serbian + 15.23% Erzya @ 2.851
7 87.89% Serbian + 12.11% Saami_Finland @ 2.871
8 87.11% Serbian + 12.89% Chuvash @ 2.918
9 52.73% Finnish + 47.27% Central_Greek @ 2.929
10 50.39% Estonian + 49.61% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.957


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 5.392
2 100% Moldavian @ 6.316
3 100% Hungarian @ 7.963
4 100% Croatian @ 8.505
5 100% Romanian @ 8.955
6 100% Bulgarian @ 11.640
7 100% Austrian @ 13.005
8 100% East_German @ 14.385
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.097
10 100% South_Polish @ 15.376


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Estonian + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.974
2 50% Finnish + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.263
3 50% Estonian + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.404
4 50% East_Finnish + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.577
5 50% Italian_Abruzzo + 50% Lithuanian @ 3.628
6 50% Finnish + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.897
7 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.912
8 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Finnish @ 4.089
9 50% Bulgarian + 50% South_Polish @ 4.153
10 50% Croatian + 50% Romanian @ 4.168


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.751
2 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Finnish @ 2.824
3 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Finnish @ 3.075
4 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% South_Polish @ 3.201
5 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.222
6 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.325
7 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% Central_Greek @ 3.327
8 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.372
9 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.393
10 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Southwest_Russian @ 3.395


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Finnish @ 2.256
2 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Finnish @ 2.299
3 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% East_Finnish @ 2.374
4 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% East_Finnish @ 2.556
5 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Estonian @ 2.843
6 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Estonian @ 2.977
7 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% West_German + 25% South_Italian @ 3.099
8 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.115
9 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.202
10 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% West_German + 25% Cypriot @ 3.204


nMonte
Distance: 3.20


73.20% Serbian
09.40% Hungarian
08.80% Southwest_Russian
03.80% Mari
02.80% Tatar
01.80% Lezgin
00.20% Romanian


PCA
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11) Moldova_747_R01C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 24.50
Baltic 30.63
West_Med 15.90
West_Asian 8.79
East_Med 15.10
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 0.38
East_Asian 0.09
Siberian 1.22
Amerindian 0.93
Oceanian 1.08
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 1.38



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 74.61% Bulgarian + 25.39% Estonian @ 2.337
2 63.67% Bulgarian + 36.33% Ukrainian @ 2.463
3 63.67% Bulgarian + 36.33% South_Polish @ 2.551
4 66.02% Ukrainian + 33.98% South_Italian @ 2.626
5 68.36% Bulgarian + 31.64% Polish @ 2.673
6 52.73% Croatian + 47.27% Bulgarian @ 2.695
7 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Croatian @ 2.763
8 53.52% Ukrainian + 46.48% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.770
9 69.92% Romanian + 30.08% Ukrainian @ 2.792
10 74.61% Bulgarian + 25.39% Finnish @ 2.846


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 5.296
2 100% Moldavian @ 6.042
3 100% Romanian @ 7.835
4 100% Croatian @ 8.787
5 100% Bulgarian @ 9.822
6 100% Hungarian @ 10.179
7 100% Austrian @ 14.859
8 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.946
9 100% East_German @ 16.042
10 100% South_Polish @ 16.689


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Croatian + 50% Bulgarian @ 2.749
2 50% Ukrainian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.079
3 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 3.227
4 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Polish @ 3.291
5 50% South_Polish + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.305
6 50% Moldavian + 50% Romanian @ 3.446
7 50% Central_Greek + 50% Estonian @ 3.529
8 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.619
9 50% West_Sicilian + 50% Lithuanian @ 3.772
10 50% Moldavian + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.849


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Ukrainian @ 2.452
2 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Ukrainian @ 2.559
3 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% South_Italian @ 2.657
4 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% South_Polish @ 2.681
5 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% South_Italian @ 2.728
6 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Polish @ 2.731
7 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% South_Polish @ 2.834
8 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian @ 2.889
9 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.928
10 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.063


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Estonian @ 2.336
2 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 2.699
3 25% Croatian + 25% Croatian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian @ 2.749
4 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Finnish @ 2.844
5 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Belorussian @ 2.864
6 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 2.910
7 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Hungarian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.912
8 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Southwest_Russian @ 2.961
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% East_Finnish @ 2.970
10 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Lithuanian @ 2.982


nMonte
Distance: 3.42


29.60% Bulgarian
29.60% Moldavian
21.60% Serbian
15.00% Croatian
02.80% Ukrainian
01.00% Southwest_Russian
00.40% Yoruban


PCA
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12) Moldova_747_R01C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 24.09
Baltic 32.64
West_Med 12.57
West_Asian 7.50
East_Med 13.82
Red_Sea 1.08
South_Asian 3.54
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 2.17
Amerindian 0.86
Oceanian 0.88
Northeast_African 0.49
Sub-Saharan 0.36



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 65.23% Southwest_Russian + 34.77% West_Sicilian @ 3.278
2 69.92% Ukrainian + 30.08% Ashkenazi @ 3.436
3 52.73% Greek_Thessaly + 47.27% East_Finnish @ 3.452
4 52.73% Greek_Thessaly + 47.27% Estonian @ 3.459
5 59.77% Kargopol_Russian + 40.23% West_Sicilian @ 3.507
6 72.27% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.73% Ashkenazi @ 3.523
7 74.61% Ukrainian + 25.39% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.601
8 66.02% Bulgarian + 33.98% East_Finnish @ 3.603
9 51.95% Kargopol_Russian + 48.05% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.610
10 76.17% Ukrainian + 23.83% Tunisian_Jew @ 3.627


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 5.459
2 100% Croatian @ 7.450
3 100% Serbian @ 8.404
4 100% Hungarian @ 9.650
5 100% Romanian @ 11.476
6 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.261
7 100% Bulgarian @ 13.530
8 100% South_Polish @ 14.211
9 100% Ukrainian @ 14.499
10 100% Austrian @ 15.117


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian @ 3.676
2 50% Kargopol_Russian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.706
3 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% East_Finnish @ 3.724
4 50% Belorussian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.896
5 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.960
6 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Finnish @ 4.173
7 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Lithuanian @ 4.200
8 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.249
9 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian @ 4.690
10 50% Estonian + 50% Central_Greek @ 4.719


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% West_Sicilian @ 3.381
2 33% Belorussian + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% South_Italian @ 3.468
3 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.531
4 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% South_Italian @ 3.533
5 33% Belorussian + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.593
6 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% East_Finnish @ 3.609
7 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.618
8 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% West_Sicilian @ 3.674
9 33% Belorussian + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.693
10 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.717


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Finnish + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.251
2 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.608
3 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Tunisian_Jew @ 3.682
4 25% Kargopol_Russian + 25% Kargopol_Russian + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.706
5 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Finnish + 25% Estonian @ 3.723
6 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% South_Polish + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.736
7 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Libyan_Jew @ 3.749
8 25% Erzya + 25% Erzya + 25% South_Dutch + 25% Algerian_Jew @ 3.752
9 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Italian_Jew @ 3.760
10 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Finnish + 25% East_Finnish @ 3.780


nMonte
Distance: 4.24


38.00% Moldavian
33.20% Serbian
18.80% Southwest_Russian
04.80% Ashkenazi
02.20% Chamar
01.40% Mari
01.00% Saami_Finland
00.60% Yemenite_Jew


PCA
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13) Moldova_747_R02C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 26.10
Baltic 29.55
West_Med 15.22
West_Asian 10.17
East_Med 15.75
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 1.18
East_Asian 1.62
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.39
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.02
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 73.05% Romanian + 26.95% South_Polish @ 2.555
2 66.02% Bulgarian + 33.98% South_Polish @ 2.601
3 74.61% Romanian + 25.39% Ukrainian @ 2.706
4 65.23% South_Polish + 34.77% South_Italian @ 2.734
5 83.20% Romanian + 16.80% Lithuanian @ 2.810
6 80.08% Romanian + 19.92% Belorussian @ 2.812
7 77.73% Romanian + 22.27% Polish @ 2.812
8 61.33% South_Polish + 38.67% Central_Greek @ 2.857
9 82.42% Romanian + 17.58% Estonian @ 2.897
10 79.30% Romanian + 20.70% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.902


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 3.992
2 100% Romanian @ 6.792
3 100% Moldavian @ 7.302
4 100% Bulgarian @ 9.220
5 100% Hungarian @ 9.647
6 100% Croatian @ 9.688
7 100% Austrian @ 13.939
8 100% East_German @ 15.507
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.019
10 100% South_Polish @ 17.329


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Bulgarian + 50% Hungarian @ 3.090
2 50% South_Polish + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.093
3 50% Bulgarian + 50% Croatian @ 3.187
4 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 3.333
5 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 50% Tuscan @ 3.477
6 50% Romanian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.557
7 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.906
8 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.930
9 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.978
10 50% Belorussian + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.987


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% South_Polish @ 2.526
2 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% South_Polish @ 2.608
3 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Italian @ 2.853
4 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% South_Polish @ 2.971
5 33% Serbian + 33% Romanian + 33% Croatian @ 3.047
6 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Ukrainian @ 3.100
7 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Croatian @ 3.114
8 33% Moldavian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Hungarian @ 3.166
9 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% South_Italian @ 3.177
10 33% Serbian + 33% Romanian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.232


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Hungarian + 25% Croatian @ 2.576
2 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% South_Polish @ 2.591
3 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% South_Polish @ 2.638
4 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.711
5 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Polish @ 2.786
6 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.893
7 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Polish @ 2.902
8 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Hungarian + 25% South_Polish @ 2.928
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.942
10 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% North_Italian + 25% Central_Greek @ 3.017


nMonte
Distance: 3.28


65.00% Serbian
18.40% Bulgarian
09.20% Ukrainian_Belgorod
04.00% Croatian
02.20% Moldavian
00.60% South_Polish
00.40% Malay
00.20% Romanian


PCA
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14) Moldova_747_R02C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 23.29
Baltic 32.20
West_Med 12.93
West_Asian 7.08
East_Med 18.01
Red_Sea 0.79
South_Asian 1.47
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 0.85
Amerindian 2.61
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.77



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 56.64% Estonian_Polish + 43.36% Ashkenazi @ 3.571
2 51.17% Lithuanian + 48.83% Ashkenazi @ 3.571
3 66.02% Southwest_Russian + 33.98% Italian_Jew @ 3.603
4 50.39% Ashkenazi + 49.61% Lithuanian @ 3.680
5 60.55% Southwest_Russian + 39.45% Ashkenazi @ 3.697
6 63.67% Ukrainian + 36.33% Ashkenazi @ 3.736
7 56.64% Belorussian + 43.36% Ashkenazi @ 3.752
8 57.42% Lithuanian + 42.58% Italian_Jew @ 3.767
9 62.89% Estonian_Polish + 37.11% Italian_Jew @ 3.833
10 57.42% Russian_Smolensk + 42.58% Ashkenazi @ 3.873


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 8.340
2 100% Moldavian @ 8.762
3 100% Romanian @ 10.138
4 100% Croatian @ 10.597
5 100% Bulgarian @ 11.385
6 100% Hungarian @ 12.160
7 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.674
8 100% South_Polish @ 17.353
9 100% Austrian @ 17.493
10 100% Ukrainian @ 17.567


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Lithuanian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.632
2 50% Estonian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.992
3 50% Southwest_Russian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.370
4 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Belorussian @ 4.494
5 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 4.617
6 50% Lithuanian + 50% East_Sicilian @ 4.963
7 50% Belorussian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 5.003
8 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Ashkenazi @ 5.062
9 50% Central_Greek + 50% Lithuanian @ 5.083
10 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.114


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.618
2 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.677
3 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.959
4 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 4.029
5 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 4.033
6 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 4.139
7 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 4.142
8 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 4.167
9 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 4.196
10 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Russian_Smolensk + 33% Italian_Jew @ 4.330


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.837
2 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Ashkenazi @ 4.241
3 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.370
4 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Ashkenazi @ 4.448
5 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Belorussian @ 4.525
6 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 4.643
7 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.720
8 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Italian_Jew @ 4.837
9 25% South_Polish + 25% South_Polish + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.860
10 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% East_Sicilian @ 4.906


nMonte
Distance: 5.85


35.80% Southwest_Russian
25.00% Bulgarian
24.20% Serbian
13.40% Ashkenazi
00.80% Belorussian
00.80% Karitiana


PCA
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15) Moldova_748_R01C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 22.65
Baltic 36.26
West_Med 13.43
West_Asian 10.10
East_Med 11.95
Red_Sea 0.03
South_Asian 0.81
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 1.38
Amerindian 1.56
Oceanian 0.72
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 1.12



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 51.95% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.05% Bulgarian @ 2.563
2 52.73% Southwest_Russian + 47.27% Bulgarian @ 2.626
3 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.675
4 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Southwest_Russian @ 2.762
5 64.45% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.55% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.783
6 80.86% Ukrainian + 19.14% Cypriot @ 2.869
7 82.42% Ukrainian + 17.58% Assyrian @ 2.938
8 70.70% Southwest_Russian + 29.30% Central_Greek @ 3.008
9 73.05% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.95% South_Italian @ 3.018
10 54.30% Bulgarian + 45.70% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.041


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 4.362
2 100% Croatian @ 6.156
3 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.668
4 100% Hungarian @ 11.410
5 100% Serbian @ 11.411
6 100% Ukrainian @ 11.812
7 100% South_Polish @ 12.336
8 100% Romanian @ 14.161
9 100% Southwest_Russian @ 14.254
10 100% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 14.434


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 50% Bulgarian @ 2.644
2 50% Southwest_Russian + 50% Bulgarian @ 2.729
3 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.353
4 50% Bulgarian + 50% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.391
5 50% Romanian + 50% Southwest_Russian @ 3.437
6 50% Bulgarian + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.611
7 50% Bulgarian + 50% Erzya @ 3.633
8 50% Bulgarian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 3.818
9 50% Romanian + 50% Erzya @ 4.175
10 50% Lithuanian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.299


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.926
2 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.935
3 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.170
4 33% Erzya + 33% Lithuanian + 33% South_Italian @ 3.352
5 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Central_Greek @ 3.451
6 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Central_Greek @ 3.533
7 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Central_Greek @ 3.564
8 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Central_Greek @ 3.566
9 33% Belorussian + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Central_Greek @ 3.802
10 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Polish + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.827


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Polish + 25% Erzya @ 2.485
2 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian @ 2.644
3 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian @ 2.729
4 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Erzya @ 3.023
5 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% South_Italian @ 3.059
6 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Erzya @ 3.125
7 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% South_Italian @ 3.166
8 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% South_Italian @ 3.193
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Polish + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.274
10 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.338




nMonte
Distance: 3.52


65.60% Moldavian
14.40% Southwest_Russian
09.40% Bulgarian
07.20% Erzya
01.40% Ukrainian_Belgorod
01.00% Lebanese_Druze
00.60% Assyrian
00.40% Georgian_Jew


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/1Qmnk13.png

[Ion Basescul]

Last one for tonight

16) Moldova_748_R01C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 25.83
Baltic 27.54
West_Med 16.04
West_Asian 11.41
East_Med 12.98
Red_Sea 2.80
South_Asian 1.24
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 1.25
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.91
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 58.98% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.02% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.285
2 78.52% Moldavian + 21.48% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.580
3 76.95% Moldavian + 23.05% Tuscan @ 2.643
4 71.48% Croatian + 28.52% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.697
5 95.70% Serbian + 4.30% Kalash @ 2.723
6 95.70% Serbian + 4.30% Burusho @ 2.842
7 96.48% Serbian + 3.52% Balochi @ 2.873
8 96.48% Serbian + 3.52% Brahui @ 2.899
9 53.52% Romanian + 46.48% Moldavian @ 2.900
10 94.92% Serbian + 5.08% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.908


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 3.833
2 100% Romanian @ 6.342
3 100% Moldavian @ 7.151
4 100% Bulgarian @ 9.326
5 100% Hungarian @ 9.988
6 100% Croatian @ 10.292
7 100% Austrian @ 13.443
8 100% East_German @ 15.241
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.416
10 100% South_Polish @ 18.276


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Romanian + 50% Moldavian @ 2.934
2 50% Polish + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.370
3 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.620
4 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.706
5 50% Bulgarian + 50% Hungarian @ 3.726
6 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 3.766
7 50% Tuscan + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.773
8 50% Serbian + 50% Serbian @ 3.833
9 50% Romanian + 50% Hungarian @ 4.114
10 50% Bulgarian + 50% Croatian @ 4.144


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Austrian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Central_Greek @ 2.594
2 33% East_German + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Central_Greek @ 2.674
3 33% Serbian + 33% Romanian + 33% Moldavian @ 2.708
4 33% East_German + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% East_Sicilian @ 3.064
5 33% Austrian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% East_Sicilian @ 3.102
6 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Croatian @ 3.127
7 33% Serbian + 33% Serbian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.129
8 33% Croatian + 33% Croatian + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.144
9 33% East_German + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% South_Italian @ 3.200
10 33% Moldavian + 33% Hungarian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.265


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Hungarian + 25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.330
2 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Spanish_Extremadura + 25% Turkish @ 2.665
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Tuscan @ 2.721
4 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 25% Armenian @ 2.756
5 25% Russian_Smolensk + 25% Russian_Smolensk + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Turkish @ 2.757
6 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Hungarian @ 2.794
7 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Moldavian @ 2.817
8 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.835
9 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Hungarian + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.842
10 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Aragon + 25% Armenian @ 2.852


nMonte
Distance: 2.39


64.80% Serbian
28.60% Moldavian
02.00% Ossetian
01.60% Balochi
01.40% French_Basque
00.40% Romanian
00.40% Southwest_French
00.40% Spanish_Galicia
00.20% Brahui
00.20% Kabardin


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/dkKJMIS.png

[Ion Basescul]

Continuing from yesterday

17) Moldova_748_R02C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 26.21
Baltic 36.67
West_Med 13.51
West_Asian 6.70
East_Med 11.85
Red_Sea 1.81
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 0.12
Siberian 1.81
Amerindian 1.31
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 70.70% Southwest_Russian + 29.30% Tuscan @ 1.632
2 51.17% Romanian + 48.83% Estonian_Polish @ 1.804
3 82.42% Ukrainian + 17.58% Italian_Jew @ 1.834
4 50.39% Estonian_Polish + 49.61% Romanian @ 1.855
5 55.08% Bulgarian + 44.92% Estonian @ 1.882
6 82.42% Ukrainian + 17.58% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.951
7 79.30% Ukrainian + 20.70% Ashkenazi @ 1.981
8 56.64% Estonian + 43.36% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.982
9 69.92% Estonian_Polish + 30.08% West_Sicilian @ 2.045
10 69.14% Estonian_Polish + 30.86% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.095


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Croatian @ 3.686
2 100% Moldavian @ 5.422
3 100% Hungarian @ 8.274
4 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.733
5 100% South_Polish @ 9.582
6 100% Ukrainian @ 9.778
7 100% Serbian @ 10.894
8 100% Southwest_Russian @ 13.170
9 100% Polish @ 13.293
10 100% East_German @ 13.463


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Romanian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 1.830
2 50% Romanian + 50% Belorussian @ 2.201
3 50% Belorussian + 50% Bulgarian @ 2.283
4 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Bulgarian @ 2.340
5 50% Bulgarian + 50% Estonian @ 2.634
6 50% Serbian + 50% Southwest_Russian @ 2.658
7 50% Romanian + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.694
8 50% Ukrainian + 50% Serbian @ 2.880
9 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.045
10 50% Southwest_Russian + 50% Romanian @ 3.085


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Estonian + 33% Lithuanian + 33% South_Italian @ 1.934
2 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.344
3 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Polish + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.402
4 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Tuscan @ 2.421
5 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% West_Sicilian @ 2.552
6 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Belorussian + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.563
7 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Belorussian + 33% West_Sicilian @ 2.588
8 33% Polish + 33% Polish + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.625
9 33% Estonian + 33% Estonian + 33% South_Italian @ 2.629
10 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Tuscan @ 2.652


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 1.830
2 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Belorussian @ 1.954
3 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Polish + 25% West_Sicilian @ 2.157
4 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% West_Sicilian @ 2.216
5 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Russian_Smolensk + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 2.233
6 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian @ 2.283
7 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Tuscan @ 2.314
8 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Russian_Smolensk + 25% Belorussian @ 2.338
9 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian @ 2.340
10 25% Polish + 25% Polish + 25% Polish + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2.381




nMonte
Distance: 3.01


81.00% Croatian
07.60% Southwest_Russian
03.20% Saami_Finland
02.60% Ashkenazi
02.00% Yemenite_Jew
01.60% Serbian
01.20% Belorussian
00.60% Estonian_Polish
00.20% Ukrainian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/qzCYKJ3.png

[Ion Basescul]

18) Moldova_748_R02C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 28.04
Baltic 32.24
West_Med 15.49
West_Asian 6.59
East_Med 13.52
Red_Sea 1.22
South_Asian 0.08
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 2.23
Amerindian 0.42
Oceanian 0.17
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 56.64% Southwest_Russian + 43.36% North_Italian @ 2.081
2 56.64% Estonian_Polish + 43.36% Tuscan @ 2.198
3 65.23% Ukrainian + 34.77% Tuscan @ 2.261
4 50.39% Lithuanian + 49.61% Tuscan @ 2.354
5 50.39% Tuscan + 49.61% Lithuanian @ 2.371
6 55.86% Belorussian + 44.14% Tuscan @ 2.376
7 55.86% Estonian + 44.14% West_Sicilian @ 2.532
8 58.98% Southwest_Russian + 41.02% Tuscan @ 2.566
9 62.11% Bulgarian + 37.89% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.592
10 80.86% Serbian + 19.14% Estonian @ 2.627


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 6.152
2 100% Croatian @ 6.315
3 100% Hungarian @ 6.348
4 100% Serbian @ 6.461
5 100% Romanian @ 11.027
6 100% Austrian @ 11.134
7 100% East_German @ 12.003
8 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.276
9 100% South_Polish @ 13.382
10 100% Bulgarian @ 13.722


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Lithuanian + 50% Tuscan @ 2.354
2 50% Croatian + 50% Serbian @ 3.229
3 50% Estonian + 50% Tuscan @ 3.356
4 50% Southwest_Finnish + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.357
5 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian @ 3.417
6 50% Southwest_Russian + 50% North_Italian @ 3.527
7 50% Romanian + 50% South_Polish @ 3.614
8 50% Belorussian + 50% Tuscan @ 3.666
9 50% North_Italian + 50% Erzya @ 3.747
10 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Tuscan @ 3.747


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Tuscan @ 2.303
2 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Tuscan @ 2.345
3 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% South_Polish + 33% Tuscan @ 2.745
4 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Tuscan @ 2.781
5 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% Tuscan @ 2.833
6 33% Serbian + 33% Serbian + 33% Ukrainian @ 2.921
7 33% Serbian + 33% Serbian + 33% South_Polish @ 3.003
8 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% West_Sicilian @ 3.012
9 33% Ukrainian + 33% Polish + 33% West_Sicilian @ 3.014
10 33% Ukrainian + 33% Polish + 33% Tuscan @ 3.039


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Tuscan + 25% Tuscan @ 2.354
2 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Estonian @ 2.725
3 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 2.905
4 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.932
5 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2.957
6 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% French + 25% Central_Greek @ 2.979
7 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% South_Italian @ 2.995
8 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Polish @ 3.013
9 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Belorussian @ 3.015
10 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Finnish @ 3.060


nMonte
Distance: 3.32


45.60% Serbian
31.00% Croatian
15.40% Hungarian
03.40% Saami_Finland
02.60% Belorussian
02.00% Sardinian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/TeauhNg.png

[Ion Basescul]

Admixture studio has an interesting feature, called Clusters K-Means, where pops are automatically grouped into similar genetic clusters.
I used this feature in Eurogenes K15, as this calculator on Admixture Studio uses my old regional samples for Romania (The average sample for R. Moldova is the same as on Eurogenes K13) and many other updated samples for other ethnicities.

Romania_South = Wallachia (Muntenia + Oltenia + Dobruja)
Romania_Ne = North Moldova (Suceava + Botosani + Neamt + Iasi)
Romania_Se = South Moldova (Bacau + Vaslui + Vrancea + Galati)
Romania_Nw = North Transylvania (Cluj + Mures + Maramures + Bihor)
Romania_Sw = South Transylvania (Timis + Arad + Alba + Hunedoara)

Example with my data:

https://i.imgur.com/NkGRSi6.png

I will probably do a K15 run on academic samples after this.

[Aspirin]

https://i.imgur.com/xJoJIHM.png

Eurogenes K15 map.

https://sun9-55.userapi.com/zhTtaTVXZj1AmnseJfDDS6it-JoWQI_ncI0UYA/KwlX_3eGvxQ.jpg

[Ion Basescul]

Eurogenes K15 map.

https://sun9-55.userapi.com/zhTtaTVXZj1AmnseJfDDS6it-JoWQI_ncI0UYA/KwlX_3eGvxQ.jpg

That's just "Straseni".
By the way, for those who don't know, we are not sure if these samples labeled as "Straseni" come from there necessarily.
The authors of the study are looking into this right now, but the preliminary opinion is that Straseni is either the middle point for all samples collected from all over the country, or just an arbitrary location without any connection to the samples.

[Aspirin]

That's just "Straseni".
By the way, for those who don't know, we are not sure if these samples labeled as "Straseni" come from there necessarily.
The authors of the study are looking into this right now, but the preliminary opinion is that Straseni is either the middle point for all samples collected from all over the country, or just an arbitrary location without any connection to the samples.

On this map is clearly seen who is mixed, and who is not.

[Ion Basescul]

On this map is clearly seen who is mixed, and who is not.

The Moldavian average itself is mixed, so it's hard to tell.
I'd guess those between Serbian and Moldavian are the purest for X region. Is this your conclusion too?
Southern samples from Stefan Voda and Cahul will plot in the Romanian-Bulgarian range.

[Aspirin]

I'd guess those between Serbian and Moldavian are the purest for X region. Is this your conclusion too?


Yes.

[Ion Basescul]

19) Moldova_752_R02C01_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 23.81
Baltic 34.31
West_Med 12.54
West_Asian 6.21
East_Med 16.13
Red_Sea 1.21
South_Asian 2.19
East_Asian 0.86
Siberian 2.42
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.30
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
​Mixed Mode:
1 62.11% Estonian_Polish + 37.89% Ashkenazi @ 2.686
2 62.11% Belorussian + 37.89% Ashkenazi @ 2.868
3 67.58% Estonian_Polish + 32.42% Italian_Jew @ 2.994
4 55.86% Lithuanian + 44.14% Ashkenazi @ 3.051
5 70.70% Southwest_Russian + 29.30% Italian_Jew @ 3.176
6 56.64% Estonian + 43.36% Ashkenazi @ 3.182
7 66.02% Southwest_Russian + 33.98% Ashkenazi @ 3.247
8 62.89% Russian_Smolensk + 37.11% Ashkenazi @ 3.278
9 69.92% Ukrainian + 30.08% Ashkenazi @ 3.296
10 61.33% Lithuanian + 38.67% Italian_Jew @ 3.297


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 7.416
2 100% Croatian @ 8.575
3 100% Serbian @ 9.422
4 100% Hungarian @ 11.048
5 100% Romanian @ 12.390
6 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.842
7 100% Bulgarian @ 13.997
8 100% South_Polish @ 14.542
9 100% Ukrainian @ 14.655
10 100% Austrian @ 16.578


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Belorussian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.870
2 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.233
3 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Lithuanian @ 4.398
4 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% East_Finnish @ 4.581
5 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian @ 4.630
6 50% Lithuanian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 4.680
7 50% Estonian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 4.908
8 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.004
9 50% Bulgarian + 50% Southwest_Russian @ 5.034
10 50% Southwest_Russian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.123


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 2.821
2 33% Belorussian + 33% Kargopol_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 2.829
3 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.058
4 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Belorussian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.108
5 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.257
6 33% Belorussian + 33% Belorussian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.312
7 33% Belorussian + 33% Belorussian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.314
8 33% Russian_Smolensk + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.348
9 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Belorussian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.354
10 33% Russian_Smolensk + 33% Belorussian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.399


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Italian_Jew @ 3.394
2 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Tunisian_Jew @ 3.685
3 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Algerian_Jew @ 3.713
4 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.835
5 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Italian_Jew @ 3.898
6 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Libyan_Jew @ 3.921
7 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Italian_Jew @ 3.989
8 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Tunisian_Jew @ 4.060
9 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Finnish + 25% Lithuanian @ 4.077
10 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 4.162


nMonte
Distance: 5.52


43.40% Southwest_Russian
34.00% Serbian
16.60% Ashkenazi
02.80% Moldavian
02.00% Croatian
00.80% Mari
00.20% Austroasiatic_Ho
00.20% Saami_Finland


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/JPnqtnA.png

[Ion Basescul]

20) Moldova_752_R02C02_or.Straseni



Components %
North_Atlantic 24.72
Baltic 27.82
West_Med 17.45
West_Asian 10.27
East_Med 13.86
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 3.07
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 2.47
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.34
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00



Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 76.95% Moldavian + 23.05% Tuscan @ 3.540
2 79.30% Moldavian + 20.70% West_Sicilian @ 3.741
3 55.08% Romanian + 44.92% Moldavian @ 3.760
4 50.39% Moldavian + 49.61% Romanian @ 3.821
5 78.52% Moldavian + 21.48% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.874
6 75.39% Moldavian + 24.61% North_Italian @ 3.924
7 83.20% Romanian + 16.80% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.949
8 82.42% Moldavian + 17.58% South_Italian @ 4.031
9 73.05% Moldavian + 26.95% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.043
10 78.52% Romanian + 21.48% Ukrainian @ 4.100


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 5.433
2 100% Romanian @ 6.629
3 100% Moldavian @ 7.699
4 100% Bulgarian @ 9.076
5 100% Croatian @ 10.964
6 100% Hungarian @ 11.287
7 100% Austrian @ 14.916
8 100% East_German @ 16.366
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 18.064
10 100% Greek_Thessaly @ 18.236


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Romanian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.812
2 50% Moldavian + 50% Bulgarian @ 4.376
3 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% South_Polish @ 4.591
4 50% Bulgarian + 50% Croatian @ 4.691
5 50% Ukrainian_Lviv + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.757
6 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Ukrainian @ 4.779
7 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 4.815
8 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 5.021
9 50% Tuscan + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.034
10 50% Bulgarian + 50% Hungarian @ 5.040


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Moldavian @ 4.013
2 33% Serbian + 33% Romanian + 33% Moldavian @ 4.028
3 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Croatian @ 4.126
4 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.141
5 33% Serbian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Bulgarian @ 4.205
6 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.334
7 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Croatian @ 4.397
8 33% Croatian + 33% Croatian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.468
9 33% Croatian + 33% Hungarian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.551
10 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Tuscan @ 4.570


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Tuscan @ 3.568
2 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian @ 3.812
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% North_Italian @ 3.926
4 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% West_Sicilian @ 3.952
5 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.968
6 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Tuscan @ 3.977
7 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% West_Sicilian @ 4.043
8 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.053
9 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.070
10 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.179


nMonte
Distance: 3.61


47.20% Moldavian
45.60% Romanian
03.40% Southwest_French
01.20% Dharkar
01.20% Sardinian
00.60% Dolgan
00.40% Chamar
00.20% North_Kannadi
00.20% Serbian


PCA
https://i.imgur.com/pWCoxO3.png

[Leto]

I'd like to see the Dodecad average for that data set (Straseni).

According to Wiki the raion is 97% Moldovan (self-reported).

[Aspirin]

I'd like to see the Dodecad average for that data set (Straseni).

According to Wiki the raion is 97% Moldovan (self-reported).

I think all these people are not from that town.

[Leto]

I think all these people are not from that town.
Why? They should be from there, at least born in the raion.
I see 3% mongoloid in some of them which is interesting.

[Ion Basescul]

Why? They should be from there, at least born in the raion.
I see 3% mongoloid in some of them which is interesting.

They are not from there necessarily. I spoke to the authors regarding this steep contrast within the samples. They replied that as far as they are aware, the coordinates that they provided in the paper, which point to Straseni, are either:
1) The average mid point for all the samples and they were collected from all over the country
2) An arbitrary location without any connection to the origin of the samples
They have forwarded my email to the lab at the university of Ufa, since those guys did the physical work of collecting the samples.

[Aspirin]

Why? They should be from there, at least born in the raion.
I see 3% mongoloid in some of them which is interesting.

It seems what Strășeni is just an average, and all these samples are from every corner of the country. Băsescul contacted the authors of the study, he have more information.

[Leto]

That sucks. Are they even full Moldovans or mixed with minorities?..

[Aspirin]

That sucks. Are they even full Moldovans or mixed with minorities?..

Most of them plot close to each other, only some of thesm looks like outliers. As you can see, majority plot between Serbian and Moldavian dots.

[Ion Basescul]

All the Moldovans from North and Centre, aka "Straseni", will be added to Global 25. I've received the coordinates in advance.

Distance of my family against Moldovan, Romanian, Ukrainian and Tatar references.


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Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA


0.02590632
Moldovan:8492C02


0.02690836
Moldovan:7471C02


0.02748728
Moldovan:7581C02


0.02927681
Moldovan:7522C02


0.02951589
Moldovan:7472C02


0.02988331
Moldovan:7522C01


0.03025910
Moldovan:7462C02


0.03235395
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055


0.03274569
Moldovan:8062C02


0.03412910
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V02612


0.03451606
Moldovan:8061C02


0.03509777
Moldovan:7472C01


0.03514313
Romanian:A362


0.03553492
Moldovan:7252C01


0.03635854
Moldovan:7481C01


0.03668612
Romanian:G408


0.03729770
Moldovan:7471C01


0.03738453
Romanian:A306


0.03787131
Moldovan:7461C01


0.03801964
Moldovan:7252C02


0.03920598
Moldovan:8491C01


0.04096211
Romanian:G434


0.04123263
Moldovan:7482C01


0.04198741
Moldovan:7482C02


0.04318541
Moldovan:7481C02

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Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage


0.02240250
Moldovan:8492C02


0.02443828
Moldovan:7522C01


0.02657683
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055


0.02705273
Moldovan:7481C01


0.02761412
Moldovan:7462C02


0.02816694
Moldovan:7252C01


0.02918523
Romanian:A306


0.02971925
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V02612


0.03050844
Moldovan:7471C02


0.03075821
Moldovan:7482C01


0.03077825
Moldovan:8492C01


0.03153477
Moldovan:8491C01


0.03165598
Moldovan:8062C02


0.03281890
Moldovan:7251C02


0.03385537
Moldovan:7581C02


0.03464962
Moldovan:8061C02


0.03466491
Moldovan:7472C02


0.03468186
Moldovan:7801C01


0.03469636
Moldovan:7482C02


0.03470547
Moldovan:7252C02


0.03518661
Moldovan:7471C01


0.03536164
Ukrainian:ULV293_ukrainian_Lviv


0.03579188
Moldovan:7472C01


0.03618135
Moldovan:7522C02


0.03689277
Romanian:A362

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Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage


0.02102150
Moldovan:7252C02


0.02107704
Moldovan:8492C02


0.02182075
Moldovan:7472C01


0.02406021
Moldovan:7522C01


0.02455067
Moldovan:7481C01


0.02594828
Moldovan:7471C01


0.02707109
Moldovan:8062C02


0.02838602
Moldovan:7252C01


0.02871030
Moldovan:7462C02


0.02886997
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V02612


0.02978703
Moldovan:7471C02


0.02993860
Moldovan:7802C02


0.02999134
Moldovan:7801C01


0.03012599
Moldovan:7461C01


0.03046714
Moldovan:7472C02


0.03069747
Moldovan:8061C02


0.03161848
Moldovan:8492C01


0.03286591
Moldovan:7582C02


0.03287866
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055


0.03326308
Moldovan:7482C02


0.03326413
Moldovan:7801C02


0.03331249
Moldovan:8061C01


0.03340242
Moldovan:7582C01


0.03346061
Moldovan:7251C02


0.03415983
Moldovan:7482C01

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Calculator run against Moldovan, Romanian, Ukrainian and Tatar references.

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 1.3124% / 0.01312427 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Moldovan
24.0 Romanian
22.6 Moldovan_o
3.2 Tatar_Nogai


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.2303% / 0.01230339 | ADC: 0.25x
37.4 Moldovan_o
31.0 Romanian
17.4 Ukrainian
12.6 Moldovan
0.6 Tatar_Lipka
0.6 Tatar_Mishar
0.4 Tatar_Kazan



Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.0362% / 0.01036164 | ADC: 0.25x
87.0 Moldovan
6.6 Ukrainian
6.4 Moldovan_o

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Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 1.6494% / 0.01649434 | ADC: 0.5x
81.4 Moldovan
14.2 Romanian
3.6 Moldovan_o
0.8 Tatar_Nogai


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.3971% / 0.01397094 | ADC: 0.5x
41.8 Moldovan
38.2 Moldovan_o
12.4 Romanian
7.6 Ukrainian


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.1472% / 0.01147200 | ADC: 0.5x
94.0 Moldovan
4.8 Moldovan_o
1.2 Ukrainian


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Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 1.9525% / 0.01952492 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Moldovan


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.7245% / 0.01724516 | ADC: 1x
68.8 Moldovan
31.2 Moldovan_o


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.3216% / 0.01321565 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Moldovan

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Distance of my family against the full spreadsheet + the new Moldovan references.


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Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA


0.02590632
Moldovan:8492C02


0.02690836
Moldovan:7471C02


0.02748728
Moldovan:7581C02


0.02814552
Montenegrin:Montenegro7


0.02838517
Bosnian:Bosnian_14


0.02867435
Hungarian:NA15207


0.02927681
Moldovan:7522C02


0.02951589
Moldovan:7472C02


0.02988331
Moldovan:7522C01


0.03025910
Moldovan:7462C02


0.03235395
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055


0.03274569
Moldovan:8062C02


0.03316797
Bosnian:Bosnian_13


0.03412910
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V02612


0.03444852
Croatian:Croatia_Cro26


0.03451606
Moldovan:8061C02


0.03509777
Moldovan:7472C01


0.03514313
Romanian:A362


0.03518848
Bosnian:Bosnian_10


0.03553492
Moldovan:7252C01


0.03562607
Montenegrin:Montenegro4


0.03567306
Croatian:Croatia_Cro305


0.03578906
Croatian:Croatia_Cro198


0.03635854
Moldovan:7481C01


0.03668612
Romanian:G408

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Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage


0.02240250
Moldovan:8492C02


0.02443828
Moldovan:7522C01


0.02503348
Slovenian:Slovenian172


0.02639596
Bosnian:Bosnian_13


0.02657683
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055


0.02705273
Moldovan:7481C01


0.02761412
Moldovan:7462C02


0.02792649
Bosnian:Bosnian_14


0.02794902
Hungarian:NA15204


0.02816694
Moldovan:7252C01


0.02851662
Bosnian:Bosnian_12


0.02868915
Montenegrin:Montenegro4


0.02918523
Romanian:A306


0.02961313
Croatian:Croatia_Cro133


0.02971925
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V02612


0.02994103
Bosnian:Bosnian_10


0.03050844
Moldovan:7471C02


0.03061535
Croatian:Croatia_Cro26


0.03066830
Croatian:Croatia_Cro141


0.03075821
Moldovan:7482C01


0.03077825
Moldovan:8492C01


0.03088709
Slovakian:Slovakia96


0.03105490
Slovenian:Slovenian137


0.03153477
Moldovan:8491C01


0.03159501
Croatian:Croatia_Cro305

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Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage


0.02102150
Moldovan:7252C02


0.02107704
Moldovan:8492C02


0.02182075
Moldovan:7472C01


0.02406021
Moldovan:7522C01


0.02411296
Bosnian:Bosnian_12


0.02455067
Moldovan:7481C01


0.02567614
Slovenian:Slovenian172


0.02594828
Moldovan:7471C01


0.02707109
Moldovan:8062C02


0.02713544
Bosnian:Bosnian_13


0.02784104
Bosnian:Bosnian_10


0.02838602
Moldovan:7252C01


0.02844757
Slovenian:Slovenian137


0.02871030
Moldovan:7462C02


0.02886997
Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V02612


0.02953939
Montenegrin:Montenegro4


0.02978703
Moldovan:7471C02


0.02979751
Hungarian:NA15207


0.02993860
Moldovan:7802C02


0.02999134
Moldovan:7801C01


0.03006870
Croatian:Croatia_Cro141


0.03012599
Moldovan:7461C01


0.03046714
Moldovan:7472C02


0.03069747
Moldovan:8061C02


0.03135958
Croatian:Croatia_Cro305

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Calculator run against the full spreadsheet

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 0.5273% / 0.00527296
32.2 Montenegrin
11.0 Ukrainian
10.2 Mordovian
9.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.0 Albanian
5.4 Latvian
4.6 Polish
4.4 Bosnian
2.8 Greek_Central_Macedonia
2.4 Greek_Kos
2.2 Hungarian
2.0 Assyrian
2.0 Tibetan_Gangcha
1.8 Moldovan
0.8 Dutch
0.6 Even
0.6 Russian_Kursk
0.6 Selkup


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 0.7508% / 0.00750790
24.0 Ukrainian
21.6 Greek_Central_Macedonia
9.2 Moldovan_o
8.2 German
8.0 Mordovian
7.0 Macedonian
6.6 Lithuanian_VA
5.8 Lithuanian_SZ
5.2 Greek_Trabzon
2.0 Greek_Izmir
1.2 Bosnian
0.8 Greenlander_East
0.4 Indonesian_Bali


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 0.5850% / 0.00585036
24.0 Moldovan
18.4 Ukrainian
12.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
8.4 Latvian
7.4 Lithuanian_PA
7.2 Romanian
6.8 Albanian
5.4 Polish
3.8 Abkhasian
2.6 Chechen
2.0 Lithuanian_PZ
0.6 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
0.6 Mbuti
0.2 Biaka
0.2 Surui

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Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 0.8727% / 0.00872714 | ADC: 0.25x
36.8 Montenegrin
19.2 Moldovan
15.4 Hungarian
10.0 Mordovian
9.2 Bosnian
5.0 Turkish_Balkans
2.4 Italian_Northeast
0.8 Yugur
0.6 Nanai
0.4 Nogai
0.2 Romanian


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.0169% / 0.01016894 | ADC: 0.25x
28.4 Moldovan_o
24.6 Romanian
10.6 Ukrainian
9.2 Gagauz
8.6 Bosnian
7.2 Lithuanian_VA
7.2 Mordovian
2.8 Moldovan
1.4 Turkish_Balkans


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 0.8665% / 0.00866536 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Moldovan
8.4 Ukrainian
8.0 Slovenian
4.0 Moldovan_o
3.2 Chechen
0.4 Kubachinian
0.2 Mbuti


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Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 1.4903% / 0.01490312 | ADC: 0.5x
54.4 Moldovan
15.0 Bosnian
12.4 Turkish_Balkans
10.8 Hungarian
4.6 Montenegrin
2.6 Italian_Northeast
0.2 Mordovian


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.3966% / 0.01396582 | ADC: 0.5x
35.2 Moldovan_o
34.4 Moldovan
9.6 Romanian
8.6 Bosnian
7.6 Ukrainian
3.6 Hungarian
1.0 Slovenian


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.1468% / 0.01146813 | ADC: 0.5x
93.6 Moldovan
4.4 Moldovan_o
1.2 Ukrainian
0.8 Slovenian

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Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 1.8898% / 0.01889845 | ADC: 1x
84.6 Moldovan
11.0 Montenegrin
4.4 Bosnian


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.6856% / 0.01685646 | ADC: 1x
60.2 Moldovan
25.6 Moldovan_o
14.0 Slovenian
0.2 Bosnian


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.3216% / 0.01321565 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Moldovan

[Nurzat]

all Moldovans will be tested and Balkanic subclades (together with other alien ones) will be sent back home.

also Moldovans will return to the language of their forefathers, we will build a local East Slavic language.

end of story and those Vlachogreek Wallachians can ignore this thread, I don't understand why do they read it if they don't like it, only come here to make skandal - go learn Greek, your forefathers' language, and wear the Pindus white skirt.

[Leto]

all Moldovans will be tested and Balkanic subclades (together with other alien ones) will be sent back home.

also Moldovans will return to the language of their forefathers, we will build a local East Slavic language.

end of story and those Vlachogreek Wallachians can ignore this thread, I don't understand why do they read it if they don't like it, only come here to make skandal - go learn Greek, your forefathers' language, and wear the Pindus white skirt.
Actually I've barely seen Romanians in this thread except for one. The rest don't seem to care.

[Coastal Elite]

All the Moldovans from North and Centre, aka "Straseni", will be added to Global 25. I've received the coordinates in advance.

Distance of my family against Moldovan, Romanian, Ukrainian and Tatar references.


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Distance to: Dad
0.03373844 Romanian:G429
0.03515598 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.03698725 Romanian:G428
0.03704844 Moldovan:MOL-058
0.03804869 Romanian:G408
0.03901981 Romanian:G421
0.04060393 Moldovan:MOL-067
0.04074896 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.04117732 Romanian:A343
0.04149223 Moldovan:MOL-015
0.04207603 Moldovan:MOL-069
0.04288334 Moldovan:MOL-064
0.04301417 Romanian:A362
0.04305294 Moldovan:MOL-005
0.04538393 Moldovan:MOL-008
0.04575337 Romanian:G434
0.04618060 Moldovan:7802C01
0.04628220 Romanian:A325
0.04838142 Romanian:A374
0.04989484 Moldovan:7522C02
0.04993544 Moldovan:MOL-066
0.05068803 Moldovan:7481C02
0.05349325 Moldovan:7472C01
0.05364280 Moldovan:8492C02
0.05397795 Moldovan:7461C01

Target: Dad
Distance: 2.7997% / 0.02799698
58.2 Romanian
41.4 Moldovan
0.4 Tatar_Nogai

Target: Dad
Distance: 2.8019% / 0.02801937 | ADC: 0.25x
57.4 Romanian
42.6 Moldovan

[Ion Basescul]

Distance to: Dad
0.03373844 Romanian:G429
0.03515598 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.03698725 Romanian:G428
0.03704844 Moldovan:MOL-058
0.03804869 Romanian:G408
0.03901981 Romanian:G421
0.04060393 Moldovan:MOL-067
0.04074896 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.04117732 Romanian:A343
0.04149223 Moldovan:MOL-015
0.04207603 Moldovan:MOL-069
0.04288334 Moldovan:MOL-064
0.04301417 Romanian:A362
0.04305294 Moldovan:MOL-005
0.04538393 Moldovan:MOL-008
0.04575337 Romanian:G434
0.04618060 Moldovan:7802C01
0.04628220 Romanian:A325
0.04838142 Romanian:A374
0.04989484 Moldovan:7522C02
0.04993544 Moldovan:MOL-066
0.05068803 Moldovan:7481C02
0.05349325 Moldovan:7472C01
0.05364280 Moldovan:8492C02
0.05397795 Moldovan:7461C01

Target: Dad
Distance: 2.7997% / 0.02799698
58.2 Romanian
41.4 Moldovan
0.4 Tatar_Nogai

Target: Dad
Distance: 2.8019% / 0.02801937 | ADC: 0.25x
57.4 Romanian
42.6 Moldovan

Those letter coded as "MOL-3 digits" come from Stefan Voda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%98tefan_Vod%C4%83_District) in the South of the country and represent the Southern profile of people from R. Moldova. That's why your grandpa pulls the closest to them.
My maternal grandpa would probably be similar to them or even more Southern, considering that his ancestry on both sides come from the Southernmost district in the country, Cahul (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahul_District). Those with code "4 digits C 2 digits" come from North and Centre, so they represent the Central and Northern profiles respectively. Those coded as "Moldovan_o", where "_o" stands for outlier are either heavily mixed with East Slavs or unmixed East Slavs.

[Aspirin]

Is possible now with all this Coronavirus shit to buy a kit on 23andme?

[Leto]

Is possible now with all this Coronavirus shit to buy a kit on 23andme?
Buy MyHeritage, it's fucking cheap these days. 59 bucks, I believe.

[Ion Basescul]

Is possible now with all this Coronavirus shit to buy a kit on 23andme?

Should be, I got a notification from MyHeritage that their tests cost EUR49 for some time, so I don't see why 23andme wouldn't also be selling and processing the tests in this period.

[Ion Basescul]

Buy MyHeritage, it's fucking cheap these days. 59 bucks, I believe.

He never tested with anyone. It's better to get 23andme if he's also interested in finding Y and mtDNA. Autosomal DNA is slightly better with MyHeritage, as they test more relevant SNPs for Global 25 and GEDmatch.

[Ion Basescul]

Two persons from R. Moldova:

Saulea, Glodeni (might be a bit Ukrainian-mixed given high distances in mixed mode - 3 to 3.42. For unmixed Moldovans like my dad, the range is from 2.24-2.4, while for half mixed like my mom it's 4.64-5.35)

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
34.4


2
North_Atlantic
21.77


3
West_Med
15.61


4
West_Asian
12.12


5
East_Med
9.73


6
Siberian
2.2


7
Red_Sea
1.4


8
Amerindian
1.11


9
East_Asian
0.83


10
Oceanian
0.82

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
3.65


2
Croatian
6.62


3
Serbian
9.85


4
Ukrainian_Lviv
10.64


5
Hungarian
10.85


6
Romanian
11.78


7
Ukrainian
12.06


8
South_Polish
12.62


9
Bulgarian
13.09


10
Ukrainian_Belgorod
14.72


11
Southwest_Russian
14.76


12
Austrian
14.94


13
East_German
15.16


14
Polish
15.5


15
Russian_Smolensk
16.85


16
Estonian_Polish
17.57


17
Tatar
17.62


18
Kargopol_Russian
18.01


19
Belorussian
18.51


20
Erzya
18.86

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

94.7%
Moldavian
+
5.3%
Kabardin
@
3


2

95.2%
Moldavian
+
4.8%
North_Ossetian
@
3.03


3

95%
Moldavian
+
5%
Balkar
@
3.04


4

95.3%
Moldavian
+
4.7%
Adygei
@
3.1


5

94.5%
Moldavian
+
5.5%
Nogay
@
3.12


6

95.2%
Moldavian
+
4.8%
Chechen
@
3.14


7

95.8%
Moldavian
+
4.2%
Ossetian
@
3.15


8

96.4%
Moldavian
+
3.6%
Abhkasian
@
3.16


9

95.3%
Moldavian
+
4.7%
Kumyk
@
3.19


10

96.4%
Moldavian
+
3.6%
Georgian
@
3.19


11

95.7%
Moldavian
+
4.3%
Lezgin
@
3.23


12

95.9%
Moldavian
+
4.1%
Tabassaran
@
3.29


13

94.4%
Moldavian
+
5.6%
Chuvash
@
3.33


14

92.2%
Moldavian
+
7.8%
Tatar
@
3.34


15

96.3%
Moldavian
+
3.7%
Afghan_Turkmen
@
3.35


16

97.6%
Moldavian
+
2.4%
Hakas
@
3.4


17

97.2%
Moldavian
+
2.8%
Hazara
@
3.4


18

96.9%
Moldavian
+
3.1%
Uzbeki
@
3.41


19

96%
Moldavian
+
4%
Mari
@
3.41


20

98.1%
Moldavian
+
1.9%
Selkup
@
3.42

</tbody>


Budeanu, Chisinau (perhaps originally from Ialoveni?)

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
26.9


2
Baltic
26.3


3
West_Med
15.4


4
East_Med
13.58


5
West_Asian
9.64


6
Red_Sea
4.18


7
East_Asian
1.13


8
Oceanian
1.07


9
Siberian
0.97


10
South_Asian
0.45


11
Amerindian
0.36

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
2.82


2
Romanian
5.66


3
Moldavian
7.82


4
Bulgarian
8.37


5
Hungarian
8.65


6
Croatian
9.99


7
Austrian
11.19


8
East_German
13.02


9
West_German
15.71


10
Greek_Thessaly
15.97


11
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.15


12
South_Polish
16.77


13
French
16.98


14
South_Dutch
17.2


15
North_Italian
17.41


16
Ukrainian
17.73


17
Tuscan
18.9


18
Portuguese
19.97


19
Spanish_Galicia
20.16


20
North_German
20.31

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

98.6%
Serbian
+
1.4%
NAN_Melanesian
@
2.44


2

97%
Serbian
+
3%
Aghan_Hazara
@
2.5


3

97%
Serbian
+
3%
Uygur
@
2.5


4

97.3%
Serbian
+
2.7%
Hazara
@
2.51


5

97.6%
Serbian
+
2.4%
Kazakh
@
2.54


6

99%
Serbian
+
1%
Papuan
@
2.54


7

97.8%
Serbian
+
2.2%
Kirgiz
@
2.55


8

98.4%
Serbian
+
1.6%
Tibeto-Burman_Burmese
@
2.56


9

97.2%
Serbian
+
2.8%
Uzbeki
@
2.56


10

98.5%
Serbian
+
1.5%
Tu
@
2.57


11

98.6%
Serbian
+
1.4%
Hezhen
@
2.58


12

98.6%
Serbian
+
1.4%
Yizu
@
2.58


13

98.6%
Serbian
+
1.4%
Naxi
@
2.58


14

98.6%
Serbian
+
1.4%
Japanese
@
2.58


15

98.7%
Serbian
+
1.3%
Malay
@
2.58


16

97%
Serbian
+
3%
Tadjik
@
2.58


17

98.6%
Serbian
+
1.4%
Xibo
@
2.58


18

98.3%
Serbian
+
1.7%
Mongolian
@
2.59


19

98.7%
Serbian
+
1.3%
Cambodian
@
2.59


20

97.2%
Serbian
+
2.8%
Afghan_Turkmen
@
2.6

</tbody>

[Leto]

Two persons from R. Moldova:
Nice finds! Please share their Dod K12b, just unsorted components.

[Impaler]

Those letter coded as "MOL-3 digits" come from Stefan Voda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%98tefan_Vod%C4%83_District) in the South of the country and represent the Southern profile of people from R. Moldova. That's why your grandpa pulls the closest to them.
My maternal grandpa would probably be similar to them or even more Southern, considering that his ancestry on both sides come from the Southernmost district in the country, Cahul (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahul_District). Those with code "4 digits C 2 digits" come from North and Centre, so they represent the Central and Northern profiles respectively. Those coded as "Moldovan_o", where "_o" stands for outlier are either heavily mixed with East Slavs or unmixed East Slavs.

Just for the fun.

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.5920% / 0.02591988
80.6 Moldovan
9.4 Tatar_Nogai
6.6 Romanian
3.4 Moldovan_o

Distance to: Impaler_scaled
0.04180038 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.04220829 Moldovan:MOL-005
0.04348463 Moldovan:MOL-008
0.04372560 Moldovan:MOL-015
0.04495208 Romanian:A374
0.04535030 Romanian:G434
0.04584644 Romanian:G429
0.04644522 Moldovan:MOL-067
0.04705045 Romanian:G408
0.04776378 Moldovan:7802C01
0.04784176 Moldovan:8062C01
0.04874073 Moldovan:7481C02
0.05079099 Moldovan:MOL-064
0.05117103 Romanian:A362
0.05149838 Romanian:G421
0.05163944 Moldovan:8061C02
0.05177830 Moldovan:7522C02
0.05232451 Moldovan:MOL-069
0.05266931 Moldovan:MOL-058
0.05286083 Romanian:G428
0.05341366 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.05347240 Romanian:A343
0.05351951 Romanian:A325
0.05435035 Moldovan:7461C01
0.05563651 Moldovan:8062C02

[Ion Basescul]

Nice finds! Please share their Dod K12b, just unsorted components.

Here you go:


<tbody>
Gedrosia
7.48 Pct


Siberian
1.49 Pct


Northwest_African
0.23 Pct


Southeast_Asian
-


Atlantic_Med
25.69 Pct


North_European
42.81 Pct


South_Asian
-


East_African
-


Southwest_Asian
3.00 Pct


East_Asian
1.19 Pct


Caucasus
18.12 Pct


Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>


<tbody>
Gedrosia
2.55 Pct


Siberian
-


Northwest_African
0.99 Pct


Southeast_Asian
-


Atlantic_Med
23.64 Pct


North_European
39.72 Pct


South_Asian
2.29 Pct


East_African
-


Southwest_Asian
8.09 Pct


East_Asian
1.44 Pct


Caucasus
21.29 Pct


Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>


There's something a bit wrong with this calculator though; perhaps it's the calculator effect that people were talking about when referring to Dodecad models. The difference between my dad and mom is marginal, whereas anywhere else it's quite noticeable.

Dad

<tbody>
Gedrosia
6.60 Pct


Siberian
0.42 Pct


Northwest_African
1.42 Pct


Southeast_Asian
-


Atlantic_Med
24.47 Pct


North_European
42.36 Pct


South_Asian
0.21 Pct


East_African
-


Southwest_Asian
2.23 Pct


East_Asian
1.51 Pct


Caucasus
20.77 Pct


Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>

Mom

<tbody>
Gedrosia
5.39 Pct


Siberian
0.60 Pct


Northwest_African
-


Southeast_Asian
0.56 Pct


Atlantic_Med
22.80 Pct


North_European
43.78 Pct


South_Asian
0.28 Pct


East_African
-


Southwest_Asian
3.62 Pct


East_Asian
1.44 Pct


Caucasus
21.53 Pct


Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>

I

<tbody>
Gedrosia
5.71 Pct


Siberian
1.53 Pct


Northwest_African
0.24 Pct


Southeast_Asian
-


Atlantic_Med
25.42 Pct


North_European
40.30 Pct


South_Asian
0.11 Pct


East_African
-


Southwest_Asian
4.33 Pct


East_Asian
2.00 Pct


Caucasus
20.36 Pct


Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

Just for the fun.

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.5920% / 0.02591988
80.6 Moldovan
9.4 Tatar_Nogai
6.6 Romanian
3.4 Moldovan_o

Distance to: Impaler_scaled
0.04180038 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.04220829 Moldovan:MOL-005
0.04348463 Moldovan:MOL-008
0.04372560 Moldovan:MOL-015
0.04495208 Romanian:A374
0.04535030 Romanian:G434
0.04584644 Romanian:G429
0.04644522 Moldovan:MOL-067
0.04705045 Romanian:G408
0.04776378 Moldovan:7802C01
0.04784176 Moldovan:8062C01
0.04874073 Moldovan:7481C02
0.05079099 Moldovan:MOL-064
0.05117103 Romanian:A362
0.05149838 Romanian:G421
0.05163944 Moldovan:8061C02
0.05177830 Moldovan:7522C02
0.05232451 Moldovan:MOL-069
0.05266931 Moldovan:MOL-058
0.05286083 Romanian:G428
0.05341366 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.05347240 Romanian:A343
0.05351951 Romanian:A325
0.05435035 Moldovan:7461C01
0.05563651 Moldovan:8062C02

Can you check "Aggregate - No" to run without aggregates? I guess that the chunkiest part of Moldovan in your case should be from "Moldovan:MOL" guys, which represent the Southern profile in the country.

[Impaler]

Can you check "Aggregate - No" to run without aggregates? I guess that the chunkiest part of Moldovan in your case should be from "Moldovan:MOL" guys, which represent the Southern profile in the country.


Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.5920% / 0.02591988
58.8 Moldovan:MOL-005
11.0 Moldovan:MOL-024
9.4 Tatar_Nogai:NOG-357
6.6 Romanian:G429
5.0 Moldovan:MOL-008
3.6 Moldovan:MOL-015
3.4 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V28645
2.2 Moldovan:MOL-064

[Leto]

There's something a bit wrong with this calculator though; perhaps it's the calculator effect that people were talking about when referring to Dodecad models. The difference between my dad and mom is marginal, whereas anywhere else it's quite noticeable.
Well, it's not perfect and also quite basic but I still like it because it's actually less noisy than others and doesn't have some unnecesary components.

[Aspirin]

Budeanu, Chisinau (perhaps originally from Ialoveni?)


Give me his kit number.

[Aspirin]

Saulea is I-CTS5966, his results were posted here, he is close to my area.

[Ion Basescul]

Bacau county, Csango?


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
28.32


2
North_Atlantic
27.65


3
West_Med
15.21


4
West_Asian
12.81


5
East_Med
7.97


6
South_Asian
2.9


7
Red_Sea
2.2


8
Amerindian
1.48


9
Sub-Saharan
1.15


10
Siberian
0.3

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
6.85


2
Serbian
7.96


3
Hungarian
8.02


4
Croatian
8.54


5
Austrian
10.11


6
Romanian
10.27


7
East_German
11.1


8
Bulgarian
12.79


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.72


10
South_Polish
14.48


11
Ukrainian
15.43


12
West_German
15.55


13
South_Dutch
16.92


14
Polish
17.74


15
French
18.18


16
North_German
18.62


17
Ukrainian_Belgorod
18.79


18
Southwest_Russian
19.01


19
Russian_Smolensk
20.18


20
Greek_Thessaly
20.5

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

77.5%
East_German
+
22.5%
Kumyk
@
4.25


2

78.2%
East_German
+
21.8%
Kabardin
@
4.38


3

79.3%
East_German
+
20.7%
Adygei
@
4.4


4

78.9%
East_German
+
21.1%
Balkar
@
4.44


5

89.2%
Hungarian
+
10.8%
Brahui
@
4.48


6

89%
Hungarian
+
11%
Balochi
@
4.48


7

82%
East_German
+
18%
Georgian
@
4.53


8

82.9%
East_German
+
17.1%
Abhkasian
@
4.55


9

88.9%
Hungarian
+
11.1%
Makrani
@
4.57


10

79.9%
East_German
+
20.1%
North_Ossetian
@
4.68


11

86.3%
Hungarian
+
13.7%
Ossetian
@
4.73


12

81.4%
East_German
+
18.6%
Iranian
@
4.76


13

80.3%
East_German
+
19.7%
Ossetian
@
4.77


14

85%
Hungarian
+
15%
Kabardin
@
4.78


15

81.3%
East_German
+
18.7%
Kurdish
@
4.83


16

85.6%
Hungarian
+
14.4%
Balkar
@
4.84


17

86%
Hungarian
+
14%
Adygei
@
4.91


18

88.3%
Hungarian
+
11.7%
Kalash
@
4.92


19

79.8%
East_German
+
20.2%
Azeri
@
4.93


20

88%
Hungarian
+
12%
Georgian
@
4.95


</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

Saulea is I-CTS5966, his results were posted here, he is close to my area.

E x p o s e d
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p
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d

It's good to know the location, because I-CTS5966 aka CTS10228 is upstream from my PH908. He probably falls under Y3120 too, which is the clearest marker of Slavic migrations/expansions out of all haplos and clades.

There aren't many of us surprisingly, out of the limited data that I have from 23andme, about 15 samples. The plurality of the guys are E-V13 and I think there are even more J2b than I-L621.
However, I remember that study from Carahasani I think and Sofia, where there were like 30% I-L621, so perhaps my 23andme guys are unrepresentative of the average.

[Aspirin]

Budeanu

https://sun9-53.userapi.com/c858236/v858236530/1e632b/DdtJHjBA16k.jpg

[Ion Basescul]

Cernisenco, full Moldovan Ukrainian



<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
42.33


2
North_Atlantic
23.24


3
West_Med
14.39


4
West_Asian
7.53


5
East_Med
6.33


6
Siberian
2.7


7
South_Asian
1.22


8
Northeast_African
1.1


9
Amerindian
0.62


10
Sub-Saharan
0.47


11
Oceanian
0.07

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Ukrainian_Lviv
5.08


2
Ukrainian
5.19


3
South_Polish
7.5


4
Southwest_Russian
7.57


5
Croatian
7.64


6
Ukrainian_Belgorod
8.1


7
Polish
8.71


8
Moldavian
9.17


9
Russian_Smolensk
9.41


10
Estonian_Polish
9.7


11
Kargopol_Russian
10.45


12
Belorussian
11.04


13
Erzya
11.89


14
Hungarian
13.06


15
Lithuanian
14.26


16
Estonian
14.77


17
East_German
15.5


18
East_Finnish
15.98


19
Finnish
16


20
Serbian
16.35

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

88.4%
Southwest_Russian
+
11.6%
Sardinian
@
3.35


2

87.5%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
12.5%
Sardinian
@
3.35


3

62.5%
Croatian
+
37.5%
Erzya
@
3.47


4

53.9%
Moldavian
+
46.1%
Kargopol_Russian
@
3.88


5

57.5%
Moldavian
+
42.5%
Erzya
@
3.92


6

59.8%
Croatian
+
40.2%
Kargopol_Russian
@
4.05


7

82.2%
Erzya
+
17.8%
Sardinian
@
4.09


8

62.6%
Moldavian
+
37.4%
Lithuanian
@
4.21


9

94.7%
Ukrainian
+
5.3%
Georgian_Jewish
@
4.22


10

94.8%
Ukrainian
+
5.2%
Armenian
@
4.23


11

94.4%
Ukrainian
+
5.6%
Cyprian
@
4.24


12

93.9%
Ukrainian
+
6.1%
Balkar
@
4.24


13

93.9%
Ukrainian
+
6.1%
Turkish
@
4.25


14

95.1%
Ukrainian
+
4.9%
Abhkasian
@
4.25


15

93.7%
Ukrainian
+
6.3%
Kabardin
@
4.25


16

94.8%
Ukrainian
+
5.2%
Assyrian
@
4.26


17

73.3%
Ukrainian
+
26.7%
Moldavian
@
4.27


18

56.5%
Southwest_Russian
+
43.5%
Moldavian
@
4.28


19

94.9%
Ukrainian
+
5.1%
Georgian
@
4.29


20

94.7%
Ukrainian
+
5.3%
Syrian
@
4.3



</tbody>

[Leto]

Again, the Dod components would be appreciated.

[Ion Basescul]

Again, the Dod components would be appreciated.


<tbody>
Gedrosia
4.83 Pct


Siberian
2.04 Pct


Northwest_African
-


Southeast_Asian
-


Atlantic_Med
23.50 Pct


North_European
52.16 Pct


South_Asian
0.81 Pct


East_African
0.36 Pct


Southwest_Asian
0.81 Pct


East_Asian
-


Caucasus
14.77 Pct


Sub_Saharan
0.73 Pct

</tbody>

[Leto]

That Moldovan Ukrainian would probably be typical of Chernovtsy oblast.

[Ion Basescul]

That Moldovan Ukrainian would probably be typical of Chernovtsy oblast.

Yes, his profile is West Ukrainian-like. Even in Eurogenes he pulls closest to Lviv.

[Ion Basescul]

Slanina, 1/2 Straseni, 1/2 Ungheni (1/8 Ukrainian, so basically unmixed since it's so distant)


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
30.44


2
North_Atlantic
25.67


3
West_Med
14.31


4
East_Med
13.2


5
West_Asian
11.1


6
Red_Sea
1.84


7
East_Asian
1.54


8
Siberian
1.4


9
Oceanian
0.46


10
Northeast_African
0.05

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
4.41


2
Moldavian
4.43


3
Croatian
7.02


4
Romanian
7.44


5
Hungarian
7.62


6
Bulgarian
9.59


7
Austrian
11.58


8
East_German
12.77


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.03


10
South_Polish
13.7


11
Ukrainian
14.39


12
Polish
17.37


13
Southwest_Russian
17.46


14
Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.53


15
West_German
17.73


16
Greek_Thessaly
18.42


17
South_Dutch
19.26


18
Russian_Smolensk
19.33


19
Tatar
19.92


20
Estonian_Polish
20

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

62.8%
Ukrainian
+
37.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.18


2

50.1%
Serbian
+
49.9%
Moldavian
@
2.18


3

71%
Romanian
+
29%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.22


4

85.6%
Serbian
+
14.4%
Erzya
@
2.24


5

64.4%
Romanian
+
35.6%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.24


6

65.2%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
34.8%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.27


7

64.9%
South_Polish
+
35.1%
Central_Greek
@
2.29


8

73.1%
Romanian
+
26.9%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.36


9

65.7%
Romanian
+
34.3%
South_Polish
@
2.37


10

82.4%
Serbian
+
17.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.38


11

66.8%
Romanian
+
33.2%
Ukrainian
@
2.41


12

71.1%
Romanian
+
28.9%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.48


13

65.7%
Moldavian
+
34.3%
Romanian
@
2.5


14

71.1%
Romanian
+
28.9%
Polish
@
2.5


15

59.3%
Bulgarian
+
40.7%
South_Polish
@
2.51


16

78%
Romanian
+
22%
Lithuanian
@
2.52


17

77.5%
Romanian
+
22.5%
Estonian
@
2.55


18

84.6%
Croatian
+
15.4%
Turkish
@
2.55


19

72%
Bulgarian
+
28%
Finnish
@
2.58


20

85.6%
Serbian
+
14.4%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.59



</tbody>

[Aspirin]

That Moldovan Ukrainian would probably be typical of Chernovtsy oblast.

Hard to belive, they need to be visible southern.

[Leto]

Hard to belive, they need to be visible southern.
He is already quite Southern to me. 14% West Med.

[Aspirin]

Slanina, 1/2 Straseni, 1/2 Ungheni (1/8 Ukrainian, so basically unmixed since it's so distant)


Kit number please.

[Aspirin]

He is already quite Southern to me. 14% West Med.

You already posted results of one Ukrainian from that region, and he was very southern.

[Ion Basescul]

Ionashku, Cernauti/Chernivtsi Ukraine


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.9


2
North_Atlantic
27.94


3
West_Med
13.97


4
East_Med
10.84


5
West_Asian
8.17


6
Red_Sea
4.59


7
East_Asian
1.34


8
South_Asian
1.3


9
Siberian
0.76


10
Oceanian
0.75


11
Amerindian
0.27


12
Northeast_African
0.15

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
5.65


2
Moldavian
5.7


3
Hungarian
5.78


4
Croatian
6.56


5
Austrian
9.04


6
Romanian
9.64


7
East_German
10.14


8
Ukrainian_Lviv
12.15


9
Bulgarian
12.23


10
South_Polish
12.75


11
Ukrainian
13.81


12
West_German
15.41


13
Polish
16.15


14
South_Dutch
16.75


15
Southwest_Russian
17.32


16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.53


17
French
17.89


18
North_German
18.47


19
Russian_Smolensk
18.49


20
Estonian_Polish
19.14

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

66.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
33.9%
Tuscan
@
3.23


2

72.1%
Serbian
+
27.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.39


3

61.6%
Polish
+
38.4%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.39


4

79.5%
Moldavian
+
20.5%
French
@
3.44


5

85.1%
Serbian
+
14.9%
La_Brana-1
@
3.46


6

83.3%
Serbian
+
16.7%
Finnish
@
3.47


7

78%
Serbian
+
22%
Polish
@
3.48


8

55.6%
Russian_Smolensk
+
44.4%
Tuscan
@
3.53


9

81.7%
Serbian
+
18.3%
Southwest_Finnish
@
3.53


10

83.7%
Serbian
+
16.3%
Estonian
@
3.54


11

92.1%
Hungarian
+
7.9%
Saudi
@
3.54


12

84.4%
Serbian
+
15.6%
East_Finnish
@
3.55


13

90.9%
Hungarian
+
9.1%
Bedouin
@
3.59


14

80.7%
Serbian
+
19.3%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.61


15

62.9%
Polish
+
37.1%
West_Sicilian
@
3.61


16

68.5%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
31.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.62


17

74%
Serbian
+
26%
South_Polish
@
3.67


18

69.8%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
30.2%
West_Sicilian
@
3.7


19

52.7%
Estonian
+
47.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.71


20

56%
Serbian
+
44%
Croatian
@
3.71



</tbody>

[War Chef]

Wish there was a better algorithm to split North Atlantic and Baltic more clearly, almost every program struggles with it. But nice work.

Interesting a lot of those values for Moldovans are similar to Croatians, who live very far away.

[Ion Basescul]

Andronic, Straseni


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.74


2
North_Atlantic
25.38


3
West_Med
19.64


4
West_Asian
9.19


5
East_Med
8.9


6
Red_Sea
3.29


7
Siberian
2.48


8
South_Asian
0.87


9
Amerindian
0.5

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
6.15


2
Serbian
7.52


3
Croatian
8.08


4
Hungarian
9.47


5
Romanian
9.81


6
Austrian
11.74


7
Bulgarian
11.92


8
East_German
12.45


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.54


10
South_Polish
14.84


11
Ukrainian
15.06


12
West_German
17.7


13
Polish
17.95


14
South_Dutch
18.69


15
French
18.99


16
Southwest_Russian
19.03


17
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.31


18
Greek_Thessaly
19.53


19
North_Italian
20.07


20
Russian_Smolensk
20.26

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

89.1%
Moldavian
+
10.9%
Sardinian
@
3.59


2

82.9%
Moldavian
+
17.1%
Southwest_French
@
3.75


3

83.4%
Moldavian
+
16.6%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
3.86


4

81.7%
Moldavian
+
18.3%
Spanish_Galicia
@
3.91


5

83.9%
Moldavian
+
16.1%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.92


6

83.9%
Moldavian
+
16.1%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
3.92


7

88.4%
Moldavian
+
11.6%
French_Basque
@
3.92


8

82.9%
Moldavian
+
17.1%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
3.97


9

85.4%
Moldavian
+
14.6%
Spanish_Aragon
@
3.98


10

83.6%
Moldavian
+
16.4%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
4.16


11

82.7%
Moldavian
+
17.3%
Portuguese
@
4.18


12

84.3%
Moldavian
+
15.7%
Spanish_Murcia
@
4.22


13

84.3%
Moldavian
+
15.7%
Spanish_Valencia
@
4.24


14

83.7%
Moldavian
+
16.3%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
4.33


15

85.6%
Croatian
+
14.4%
Sardinian
@
4.34


16

81.9%
Moldavian
+
18.1%
North_Italian
@
4.35


17

54.3%
North_Italian
+
45.7%
Erzya
@
4.5


18

76.2%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
23.8%
Sardinian
@
4.86


19

83.1%
Moldavian
+
16.9%
French
@
4.88


20

85.6%
Moldavian
+
14.4%
Tuscan
@
4.91



</tbody>

[Leto]

Ionashku, Cernauti/Chernivtsi Ukraine
<...>
6 Red_Sea 4.59

That's a huge Red Sea percentage. Usually 4+% cannot be found outside of Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal. I mean Europe of course.

[Ion Basescul]

That's a huge Red Sea percentage. Usually 4+% cannot be found outside of Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal. I mean Europe of course.

Now that you mention it, I checked and all of the 4%+ samples are from R. Moldova and none are from Romanian Moldavia, which is genetically more Southern on average. Weird, perhaps it's just another limitation of K13.

[Aspirin]

That's a huge Red Sea percentage. Usually 4+% cannot be found outside of Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal. I mean Europe of course.

What is your explanation of this? Other components like West Med, East Med and West Asian from other side are very low.

[Aspirin]

...

Give me kit numbers of Ionascu and Andronic. Do you know more information about them?

[Leto]

What is your explanation of this? Other components like West Med, East Med and West Asian from other side are very low.
I think either a calculator "glitch" (some people simply get weird results for whatever reason) or some of their East Med got sucked into the Red Sea (two relatively similar "Middle Eastern" components).

[Leto]

By the way, this score looks a bit high-ish to me as well:

3 West_Med 19.64

Almost 20% WM in Moldova is not exactly usual, is it? :icon_ask:

[Ion Basescul]

What is your explanation of this? Other components like West Med, East Med and West Asian from other side are very low.

Explanation is very simple. Calculator is kind of trash and it has trouble splitting West, East Med, West Asian and Red Sea components in people who are not a full mix of one component. I also think that West Med and North Atlantic flow into each other occasionally, as do traces of Baltic and Siberian. And Oceanian is obviously a disaster.

[Ion Basescul]

By the way, this score looks a bit high-ish to me as well:

3 West_Med 19.64

Almost 20% WM in Moldova is not exactly usual, is it? :icon_ask:

You should look at it together with East Med, West Asian and Red Sea. The sum of them is lower than in Zmey Gorynych.
But the record for just West Med is 21.69% in the academic sample from Stefan Voda, MOL-065.

[Leto]

Explanation is very simple. Calculator is kind of trash and it has trouble splitting West, East Med, West Asian and Red Sea components in people who are not a full mix of one component. I also think that West Med and North Atlantic flow into each other occasionally, as do traces of Baltic and Siberian. And Oceanian is obviously a disaster.
Baltic has nothing to do with Siberian. Here you can see the Fst divergencies between the components
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCZldTIfd-EPjDlpQiFNcHwOtZus9Qdll3pB48zdQG0/edit?pli=1#gid=1

Baltic - Siberian - 113

For comparison:
East_Asian - Siberian - 56
Red_Sea - East_Med - 39

[Ion Basescul]

Give me kit numbers of Ionascu and Andronic. Do you know more information about them?

double

[Ion Basescul]

Give me kit numbers of Ionascu and Andronic. Do you know more information about them?

Not much really, as they didn't have a family tree to check their full mix, but I traced them via email.

Ionashku was from the States, but was born in Cernauti; DNA relative of Slanina.
Andronic is from Straseni, but lives in Chisinau; DNA relative of Nanu and Tsurkan Lazareva.

[Ion Basescul]

Baltic has nothing to do with Siberian. Here you can see the Fst divergencies between the components
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCZldTIfd-EPjDlpQiFNcHwOtZus9Qdll3pB48zdQG0/edit?pli=1#gid=1

Baltic - Siberian - 113

For comparison:
East_Asian - Siberian - 56
Red_Sea - East_Med - 39

I can understand that, but it's also hard to believe their authenticity with such examples:

https://i.imgur.com/pzDWlIK.png

The best example is in West_Greenlander because it lacks other West Eurasian components.

It also looks like someone messed up those Fst values, because their range is supposed to be from 0 to 1. If you look at two very distinct components like East and West Asian, who have a Fixation index of only 0.11, it becomes obvious that something is wrong with them. If East and West Asian divergence is 0.11, then East Asian and Siberian for example should be at most 0.011.

[Leto]

I can understand that, but it's also hard to believe their authenticity with such examples:

https://i.imgur.com/pzDWlIK.png

The best example is in West_Greenlander because it lacks other West Eurasian components.

It also looks like someone messed up those Fst values, because their range is supposed to be from 0 to 1. If you look at two very distinct components like East and West Asian, who have a Fixation index of only 0.11, it becomes obvious that something is wrong with them. If East and West Asian divergence is 0.11, then East Asian and Siberian for example should be at most 0.011.
I still believe the Baltic is zero Mongoloid. Most likely the Greenlanders aren't just full Mongs.

I use Dodecad more often than K13 anyway. K13 gave me and my mother 2+ fucking Red_Sea and Amerindian and we both have none of that kind of ancestry.

[Ion Basescul]

I still believe the Baltic is zero Mongoloid. Most likely the Greenlanders aren't just full Mongs.

And whom are they mixed with then, Russian Canadians? If it were Danes or other Scandinavians, then they would have had more North Atlantic than Baltic, but the difference between the two is 6x.
The Fst values are an obvious forgery for every value that's greater than 1 and results such as these are not believable.

[Leto]

And whom are they mixed with then, Russian Canadians? If it were Danes or other Scandinavians, then they would have had more North Atlantic than Baltic, but the difference between the two is 6x.
The Fst values are an obvious forgery for every value that's greater than 1 and results such as these are not believable.
I don't know. Don't really care about that reference. They aren't even Siberians. Khakas and Shors have Caucasoid/Indo-Euro ancestry (they're very high in R1a too).

[Ion Basescul]

I still believe the Baltic is zero Mongoloid. Most likely the Greenlanders aren't just full Mongs.

I use Dodecad more often than K13 anyway. K13 gave me and my mother 2+ fucking Red_Sea and Amerindian and we both have none of that kind of ancestry.

Dodecad is even more simplistic. From GEDmatch, only K36 is objective IMO, but the best for now is Global 25 obviously.