Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Results v2

From Neamt (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
23.47	28.61	16.83	11.01	13.76	0.42	2.35	0.55	1.81	0	0.61	0	0.58

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Compared to others from Neamt

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
21.38	27.17	14.71	13.65	16.38	2.64	0.06	1.68	1.96	0	0.39	0	0
26.34	27.91	12.93	10.38	15.58	2.13	0.49	0.77	2.12	0.75	0.60	0	0
24.82	28.86	16.91	7.63	16.16	1.99	0.72	0.41	1.50	0.52	0.48	0	0
23.95	24.80	18.46	11.96	15.86	1.51	0	0	1.28	0.66	1.02	0.50	0
23.04	29.67	14.32	8.00	19.96	3.18	0	0.19	1.18	0	0.29	0	0.17

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Distance to:	Neamt_ind
3.48307336	Moldova_average
3.52584742	Moldova_Centre
3.70094583	Romania_Maramures
3.85635839	Serb
4.10863724	Romania_Moldavia_North
4.29485739	Serb_north
4.37584278	Serb_central
4.51323609	Romania_Moldavia_South
4.87921100	Romania_Crisana
5.03273286	Romania_Transylvania
5.15055337	Romania_average
5.45609751	Bosniak
5.63646166	Romania_Banat
5.75893219	Croat_South
5.79882747	Csángó
5.86815985	Serb_south
6.07503909	Romania_Oltenia
6.08221177	Székely
6.13791496	Montenegrin
6.57931607	Moldova_South
6.71915917	Hungarian_Transylvania
6.73230273	Romania_Dobruja
6.76697126	Romania_Wallachia
6.80831110	Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.85027737	Moldova_North

Distance to:	Neamt_ind
3.48307336	Moldova_average
3.52584742	Moldova_Centru
3.70094583	Romania_Maramures
4.10863724	Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.51323609	Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.87921100	Romania_Crisana
5.03273286	Romania_Transilvania
5.30628872	Romania_average
5.63646166	Romania_Banat
5.79485116	Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.07503909	Romania_Oltenia
6.40060480	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.57931607	Moldova_Sud
6.71915917	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.73230273	Romania_Dobrogea
6.85027737	Moldova_Nord
7.19924302	Romania_Muntenia
8.71229591	Bulgarian
10.49803791	Moldova_Gagauzia
11.08120932	Moldova_Bulgarian
12.21799083	Romania_Ukrainian
12.37738664	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.39671731	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.74828224	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
15.50238369	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.7834% / 2.78341307 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.7 Moldova_average
15.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.8 Romania_Oltenia
4.5 Moldova_Bulgarian
3.6 Crimean_Tatar

-Hungarian, Bulgarian


Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.7394% / 2.73940688 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 Romania_Oltenia
37.5 Moldova_Nord
18.7 Romania_Maramures
5.2 Crimean_Tatar

-Oltenia
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.9016% / 2.90157556 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.5 Romania_Maramures
39.4 Moldova_average
5.3 Crimean_Tatar
4.7 Romania_Transilvania
4.1 Moldova_Centru

Distance to:	Neamt_ind
3.14356486	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
3.21501166	Moldova_Calarasi
3.24709101	Moldova_Ialoveni
3.33766385	Moldova_Straseni
3.47008645	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.01211914	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
4.12809884	Moldova_Cimislia
4.13870753	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
4.31550692	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
4.39886349	Moldova_Ungheni
4.40512202	Moldova_Singerei
4.44975280	Moldova_Chisinau
4.54306064	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
4.63888995	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.76749410	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.87329457	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.91927840	Moldova_Balti
4.93943317	Moldova_Telenesti
5.09392776	Moldova_Orhei
5.19709534	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.35554852	Moldova_Hincesti
5.38826503	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.39537765	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.44362012	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.79011226	Romania_Banat_Timis

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

romanised Ukrainian surname (Botnar from Bodnar)).

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Ukrainian? Botnar is a form of Botnari/Botnaru, very common surname.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Ukrainian? Botnar is a form of Botnari/Botnaru, very common surname.

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It is common, but it likely derives from Ukrainian Bodnar, which means someone who makes barrels. Botnar doesn't mean anything in Romanian or call it whatever you want language. It is very simple. If the surname doesn't mean anything in your language then its initial origin is not local. You can't have surnames without any meaning.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

It is common, but it likely derives from Ukrainian Bodnar, which means someone who makes barrels. Botnar doesn't mean anything in Romanian or call it whatever you want language. You can't have surnames without any meaning.

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This doesn't matter, is similar with Cebotari/Cebotaru who derivative from an Ukrainian word too, and this surname is strictly connected only with Moldova.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

This doesn't matter, is similar with Cebotari/Cebotaru who derivative from an Ukrainian word too, and this surname is strictly connected only with Moldova.

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Cebotari/Cebotaru is a variation of Ciubotaru/Cibotari/Cibotaru, in the same way that the more popular Ceban/Cebanu is for Cioban/Ciobanu. These variations happened due to Imperialist and then Soviet russification in birth/marriage certificates. But they are still obvious. In both cases they derive from Romanian words, cibota/ciubota and cioban, where cibota/ciubota indeed are borrowings from Ukrainian, cioban from Turkish, but they are Romanian and have been in our vocabulary for hundreds of years. And that's different from Botnar/Bodnar/Botnari/Botnaru, because that root is not a word in our language. If it is, then I am listening. The equivalent that I know of is dogar. And if you look at additional variations for this surname, you will see that it unsurprisingly also comes with Ukrainian endings such as Botnariuc, Botnarenco and Botnarciuc.
Bodnar is the 27th most popular surname in Suceava. Keep that also in mind. Botnar doesn't exist in isolation from Bodnar and Bodnar is more popular (27th vs 48th).

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

And if you look at additional variations for this surname, you will see that it unsurprisingly also comes with Ukrainian endings such as Botnariuc, Botnarenco and Botnarciuc.

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These are ukrainized surnames, they are absent from Ukraine almost totally, and people with such surnames are directly or indirectly connected to Moldova, same story with Butnarciuc/Butnariuc/Butnarenco.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

These are ukrainized surnames, they are absent from Ukraine almost totally, and people with such surnames are directly or indirectly connected to Moldova, same story with Butnarciuc/Butnariuc/Butnarenco.

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Those that apply such endings to Bodnar are pretty numerous in Ukraine. To me it looks like the original carriers of this surname to Moldova changed the letter when they got romanised and then it spread like this. Bodnari/Bodnar/Bodnariuc still exist here though. Otherwise, I can't explain why it's not a word and that is not normal for surnames. If you ask anyone what botnar means, I can almost guarantee you that those who will take the guess will suggest that it's something to do with the mouth. Mr. No-mouth :D

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Those that apply such endings to Bodnar are pretty numerous in Ukraine. To me it looks like the original carriers of this surname to Moldova changed the letter when they got romanised and then it spread like this. Otherwise, I can't explain why it's not a word and that is not normal for surnames. If you ask anyone what botnar means, I can almost guarantee you that those who will take the guess will suggest that it's something to do with the mouth. Mr. No-mouth :D

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Bodnar is a different story, I said about Botnar/Butnar. For example a big chunk of people with surname Butnarciuc are located in a region near Bug river, where live Moldavian colonists. But the most simple way to search people with all these surnames is VK, majority of people with these surnames are always connected with Moldova directly or indirectly. Ukrainians have surname Kushnir, who doesn't mean anything for them, and is connected with Jews, but is a popular surname between them.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Bodnar is a different story, I said about Botnar/Butnar. For example a big chunk of people with surname Butnarciuc are located in a region near Bug river, where live Moldavian colonists. But the most simple way to search people with all these surnames is VK, majority of people with these surnames are always connected with Moldova directly or indirectly. Ukrainians have surname Kushnir, who doesn't mean anything for them, and is connected with Jews, but is a popular surname between them.

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Kushnir still has a meaning in Ukrainian.

https://i.ibb.co/qxJpW9g/image.png

https://i.ibb.co/5GLqVBt/image.png

I can't comment on what you said about descendants of colonists being connected to Moldova culturally, because I didn't research this. But I will be pleasantly impressed, because I know people in my life who live in Chisinau with blatantly Moldovan/Romanian surnames but ethnically identify as Russian.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Russian from Chisinau, doesn't know of any non-Russian ancestors, but there must be something if you ask me...East Med is too high for unmixed Russians

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Send me that kit please if you don't mind. Yes, the East Med is high even for most of Ukraine, ~11%.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

I can't comment on what you said about descendants of colonists being connected to Moldova culturally, because I didn't research this. But I will be pleasantly impressed, because I know people in my life who live in Chisinau with blatantly Moldovan/Romanian surnames but ethnically identify as Russian.

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Many people with Butnarciuc surname live in Domanivka district, Mykolaiv oblast.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...skyi-Raion.png

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Many people with Butnarciuc surname live in Domanivka district, Mykolaiv oblast.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...skyi-Raion.png

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Probably in Copani and Frunze, if I were to guess by the origin of the toponyms. However Frunze could also have no relation to them, as he was a Soviet war hero, and such names exist in other places throughout the former union.
We have this documentary from Kirovograd oblast that's just at the top of your image, villages of Martynosha and Grutskoe, which are former Moldovan colonies. Nowadays they are very mixed and the language survives mostly among the elderly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqfS0BM8PA

By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.

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Originally Posted by Leto

By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.

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It's probably a good idea to make some time to go through my records to collect the yDNA and mtDNA data.

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Originally Posted by Leto

By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.

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Interestingly J2b2 has relatively decent concentration in Volga-Ural region, among Mordvins, Chuvashes and Tatars.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Interestingly J2b2 has relatively decent concentration in Volga-Ural region, among Mordvins, Chuvashes and Tatars.

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That guy is unambiguously Russian paternally at least, which Leto knows. So it's a Russian haplo, but could also be from minorities. When Russians settled here, nobody asked them what ethnicity they were originally at home :D

J2b is not unheard of in ethnic Russians, that guy is not a "minority" unless he has some Jewish in him or something like that.
Close to 80% of ethnic Russians are R1a, N1a1 or I2a2. If you add R1b and I1 the percentage will rise to 90% or so. That's why I pointed that out.

From Bacau

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
20.76	27.29	21.65	10.28	16.69	0.23	0	1.47	0.13	0.62	0.86	0	0

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Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
20.27	29.07	15.56	13.35	16.72	2.23	0	0.16	0.76	0.72	1.14	0	0
25.87	26.84	16.97	10.82	15.72	1.10	0.45	0.17	0.89	0	0.85	0	0.32
22.55	24.80	21.31	8.66	17.58	1.89	0	0	0.34	1.46	1.29	0.10	0
20.62	26.86	20.13	11.88	14.52	1.60	0.89	0	0.98	1.42	1.11	0	0
21.74	29.09	17.75	6.85	19.55	3.31	0	0.17	1.17	0.36	0	0	0
22.08	27.48	18.09	4.49	22.76	1.90	0.19	2.09	0.46	0	0.19	0.28	0
27.65	28.32	15.21	12.81	7.97	2.20	2.90	0	0.30	1.48	0	0	1.15
20.68	27.83	15.95	11.59	17.86	2.79	0	0.93	0	1.93	0.45	0	0
24.74	24.26	16.57	10.63	17.44	2.73	1.35	1.46	0	0.60	0.21	0	0
24.37	27.43	14.81	10.05	14.49	3.20	2.96	0.37	0.96	0.79	0.51	0	0.06
24.24	27.89	14.20	9.72	16.82	3.08	0	1.03	1.49	0.28	0.76	0	0.48
23.04	29.67	14.32	8.00	19.96	3.18	0	0.19	1.18	0	0.29	0	0.17

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Distance to:	Bacau_ind
5.17271689	Moldova_South
5.42246254	Romania_Banat
5.56498877	Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.59336214	Bosniak_Sandzak
5.62870323	Romania_Oltenia
5.70084204	Romania_average
5.74476283	Serb_south
5.81003442	Romania_Dobruja
5.87856275	Romania_Wallachia
6.10273709	Romania_Transylvania
6.11008183	Romania_Muntenia
6.14633224	Montenegrin
6.25079995	Romania_Moldavia_South
6.39037558	Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.50371432	Bulgaria_average
6.62336017	Romania_Crisana
6.62403955	Pomak_Bulgaria
6.69992537	Romania_Maramures
6.80847266	Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.91428232	Serb
6.94869772	Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.22991010	Serb_central
7.83882950	Macednia_north
7.91430351	Moldova_average
7.96947301	MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
5.42246254	Romania_Banat
5.62870323	Romania_Oltenia
5.73240787	Romania_average
5.81003442	Romania_Dobrogea
6.10273709	Romania_Transilvania
6.11008183	Romania_Muntenia
6.25079995	Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.62336017	Romania_Crisana
6.63536736	Bulgarian
6.69992537	Romania_Maramures
8.76812979	Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.55636960	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
10.08249473	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.89878434	Romania_Moldova_Csango
11.38024105	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
11.90064284	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.82115769	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.53085297	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.58896923	Romania_Ukrainian
18.29342778	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
22.27132910	Ukrainian_Lviv
27.61235231	Crimean_Tatar
28.91184532	Romania_Jewish
29.83191244	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
33.29525792	Romania_Roma

Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 5.3938% / 5.39381976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.6 Romania_Banat
3.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Banat
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 5.7263% / 5.72630418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
89.0 Romania_average
11.0 Romania_Muntenia

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
4.82480051	Romania_Oltenia_Valcea
5.08446654	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.36802571	Romania_Banat_Timis
5.38358617	Romania_Muntenia_Prahova
5.56273314	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.67018518	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.84666572	Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti
5.86705207	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
5.90930622	Romania_Muntenia_Arges
5.91479501	Romania_Oltenia_Olt
5.91622346	Romania_Muntenia_Bucuresti
5.92239816	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.01630285	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.04901645	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.05735916	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
6.09890154	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
6.10186857	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
6.10596430	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.11997549	Romania_Dobruja_Constanta
6.18092226	Romania_Muntenia_Braila
6.43223911	Romania_Oltenia_Gorj
6.43794998	Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita
6.48798890	Romania_Muntenia_Ilfov
6.51762227	Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
6.60921327	Romania_Muntenia_Buzau

From Suceava

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
29.07	22.81	19.18	5.32	16.58	0.75	3.66	1.13	1.37	0	0.13	0	0

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
28.74	31.61	13.10	9.18	12.47	0.66	0.78	0	0.86	0.19	0.79	1.61	0
26.88	29.15	13.73	8.13	14.66	2.27	2.06	0	2.15	0.88	0.10	0	0
26.90	27.46	17.28	9.68	14.68	0	0	0	2.21	1.16	0.35	0	0.29
30.06	26.76	16.04	8.87	14.56	1.54	0	1.00	0.58	0	0.60	0	0
25.53	34.27	13.61	7.30	10.70	2.19	1.74	0	2.96	1.22	0.47	0	0
23.46	34.89	15.09	7.43	11.82	3.66	0	0	0.39	2.00	0.65	0.60	0
24.18	33.34	12.99	8.44	13.91	1.23	1.31	1.19	1.84	0.89	0.67	0	0
24.99	32.68	13.35	7.67	16.04	1.42	0.95	0	0.78	1.26	0.87	0	0
29.03	34.47	13.15	6.10	12.78	1.79	0.78	1.02	0.87	0	0	0	0
21.99	33.52	14.77	11.31	11.99	2.49	0.5	1.04	2.23	0	0.16	0	0
23.64	28.74	16.52	6.63	20.14	1.10	0	1.05	0.10	0.66	1.42	0	0
23.25	30.39	14.82	11.44	15.45	0	0.23	0.28	2.95	0	0	1.16	0
24.37	39.23	10.88	6.70	13.46	1.45	0	0	2.62	0.51	0.79	0	0
24.60	32.75	14.70	8.38	10.93	2.70	2.02	0	1.75	1.72	0.25	0.20	0
24.50	37.74	11.01	7.68	12.62	2.75	0.39	0.96	1.12	0	0.26	0	0.98

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Distance to:	Suceava_ind
7.33275528	Romania_Crisana
8.26173105	Montenegrin
8.37367303	Romania_Transylvania
8.41621649	Bosniak_Sandzak
8.60460342	IT_Friuli-VG
8.80827452	Romania_Moldavia_South
8.87279550	Romania_Oltenia
8.98248852	Székely
8.98571088	IT_Trentino
9.15736862	Romania_Maramures
9.21126484	Romania_average
9.24235360	Hungarian_Transylvania
9.30904399	Serb_south
9.32281073	Serb_central
9.51351144	Romania_Banat
9.57654426	Csángó
9.78128315	Serb
9.84556245	Bulgaria_Southwestern
10.01029970	Romania_Wallachia
10.11735637	Romania_Dobruja
10.34663713	Bulgaria_Northwestern
10.51547907	Romania_Muntenia
10.53961100	Moldova_South
10.58626884	Macednia_north
10.59210083	IT_Veneto

Distance to:	Suceava_ind
7.33275528	Romania_Crisana
8.37367303	Romania_Transilvania
8.78752858	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.80827452	Romania_Moldova_Sud
8.87279550	Romania_Oltenia
9.15736862	Romania_Maramures
9.24235360	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.38065563	Romania_average
9.51351144	Romania_Banat
9.56241078	Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.10716083	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
10.11735637	Romania_Dobrogea
10.51547907	Romania_Muntenia
11.07982401	Romania_Moldova_Nord
11.33387401	Bulgarian
11.85874361	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.59123902	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
15.11386780	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
17.50269408	Romania_Ukrainian
17.81340226	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
23.60075211	Ukrainian_Lviv
28.40649222	Romania_Jewish
29.81960764	Crimean_Tatar
31.94211014	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.79856094	Romania_Roma

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.4585% / 4.45850032 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
39.0 Romania_Crisana
8.0 Romania_Jewish
6.4 Romania_Roma

-Jewish


Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.8913% / 4.89125804 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.9 Romania_Crisana
43.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.4 Romania_Roma


A certified mess :thumb001:, though it's mostly due to the unbalanced distribution between NA and Baltic that happens with some Romanians. We have at least two users from Romania on this forum with such cases and both are from Moldavia.

Distance to:	Suceava_ind
6.38856791	Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.73361716	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.79449777	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.89926808	Romania_Oltenia_Gorj
7.89389638	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
7.90908339	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
7.93037830	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
8.21245396	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
8.24909692	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
8.35412473	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.49251435	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.64780897	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
8.96373806	Romania_Oltenia_Olt
9.02702609	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
9.07913542	Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti
9.19005441	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.20958197	Romania_Muntenia_Prahova
9.30151063	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
9.37149401	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.39533395	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
9.60793943	Romania_Wallachia_1/4Roma
9.65115019	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.81668478	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
9.82891652	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
9.93835499	Romania_Dobruja_Constanta

From Suceava

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
25.45	31.50	13.01	8.99	11.95	4.09	1.91	0.19	2.63	0	0	0	0.27

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
28.74	31.61	13.10	9.18	12.47	0.66	0.78	0	0.86	0.19	0.79	1.61	0
26.88	29.15	13.73	8.13	14.66	2.27	2.06	0	2.15	0.88	0.10	0	0
26.90	27.46	17.28	9.68	14.68	0	0	0	2.21	1.16	0.35	0	0.29
30.06	26.76	16.04	8.87	14.56	1.54	0	1.00	0.58	0	0.60	0	0
25.53	34.27	13.61	7.30	10.70	2.19	1.74	0	2.96	1.22	0.47	0	0
23.46	34.89	15.09	7.43	11.82	3.66	0	0	0.39	2.00	0.65	0.60	0
24.18	33.34	12.99	8.44	13.91	1.23	1.31	1.19	1.84	0.89	0.67	0	0
24.99	32.68	13.35	7.67	16.04	1.42	0.95	0	0.78	1.26	0.87	0	0
29.03	34.47	13.15	6.10	12.78	1.79	0.78	1.02	0.87	0	0	0	0
21.99	33.52	14.77	11.31	11.99	2.49	0.5	1.04	2.23	0	0.16	0	0
23.64	28.74	16.52	6.63	20.14	1.10	0	1.05	0.10	0.66	1.42	0	0
23.25	30.39	14.82	11.44	15.45	0	0.23	0.28	2.95	0	0	1.16	0
24.37	39.23	10.88	6.70	13.46	1.45	0	0	2.62	0.51	0.79	0	0
24.60	32.75	14.70	8.38	10.93	2.70	2.02	0	1.75	1.72	0.25	0.20	0
24.50	37.74	11.01	7.68	12.62	2.75	0.39	0.96	1.12	0	0.26	0	0.98
29.07	22.81	19.18	5.32	16.58	0.75	3.66	1.13	1.37	0	0.13	0	0

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Distance to:	Suceava_ind
4.69720129	Bosniak
4.86506937	Csángó
4.96114906	Moldova_North
4.97656508	Romania_Moldavia_North
5.10323427	Croat_South
5.13986381	Croat_East
5.14716427	Moldova_Centre
5.40458139	Croat
5.49471564	Moldova_average
5.65075216	Székely
5.72780063	Croat_West
5.73614853	Hungarian_Transylvania
5.81949311	Serb_north
6.07605958	Hungarian_Alföld
6.67555241	Hungarian
6.78930041	Serb
6.89252494	Serb_central
6.96425875	Romania_Maramures
7.28590420	Croat_North
7.38311587	Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.04426504	Hungarian_Northern
8.48090797	Romania_Moldavia_South
8.60778717	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.71424696	Slovenian
8.98732441	Romania_Crisana

Distance to:	Suceava_ind
4.88317520	Romania_Moldova_Csango
4.97656508	Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.73614853	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.97956359	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.96425875	Romania_Maramures
8.12193327	Romania_Ukrainian
8.48090797	Romania_Moldova_Sud
8.60778717	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.98732441	Romania_Crisana
9.37136596	Romania_Transilvania
9.84148363	Romania_average
10.39493146	Romania_Banat
10.89071164	Romania_Oltenia
11.40612993	Romania_Dobrogea
11.89647847	Romania_Muntenia
12.97937595	Ukrainian_Lviv
13.47644612	Bulgarian
15.53116222	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
16.56726894	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
16.71559452	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
22.08401005	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
25.98625983	Crimean_Tatar
26.52756114	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
35.47857241	Romania_Roma
35.68564277	Romania_Jewish

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.8505% / 2.85048538 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
25.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
23.9 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.3 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
4.3 Romania_Roma

-Hungarian, Ukrainian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.2524% / 3.25244188 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.3 Romania_Ukrainian
36.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
5.2 Crimean_Tatar
3.5 Romania_Roma
3.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

Distance to:	Suceava_ind
3.97027707	Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
4.88434233	Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
4.94044532	Romania_Moldavia_Csango
5.16411657	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
5.69661303	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
5.83620596	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.23032904	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.32553555	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
6.50710381	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
7.59391862	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
8.12193327	Romania_Ukrainian
8.35306531	Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
8.42628032	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
8.53843663	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.57187844	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
9.31455313	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
9.50012105	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
9.58621406	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
9.64624798	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
9.66755398	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.95985442	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
10.01536320	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
10.31322937	Romania_Muntenia_Braila
10.46723937	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
10.70942575	Romania_Banat_Timis

I know you don't use any pops from outside of Romania and Moldova but here's what Vahaduo gives for that individual

Target: Suceava
Distance: 1.6554% / 1.65541153 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.3 Swiss_Italian
38.6 Romania_Crisana
15.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
3.9 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Suceava
Distance: 1.3390% / 1.33898740 | R4P
49.4 Swiss_Italian
29.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
4.3 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Suceava
Distance: 2.0292% / 2.02917592 | R3P
52.8 Swiss_Italian
34.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.4 Balkan_Gypsy

From Suceava

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.89	29.70	13.45	10.92	13.81	1.22	2.85	0	1.13	0	0.73	1.31	0

Compared to others

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
28.74	31.61	13.10	9.18	12.47	0.66	0.78	0	0.86	0.19	0.79	1.61	0
26.88	29.15	13.73	8.13	14.66	2.27	2.06	0	2.15	0.88	0.10	0	0
26.90	27.46	17.28	9.68	14.68	0	0	0	2.21	1.16	0.35	0	0.29
30.06	26.76	16.04	8.87	14.56	1.54	0	1.00	0.58	0	0.60	0	0
25.53	34.27	13.61	7.30	10.70	2.19	1.74	0	2.96	1.22	0.47	0	0
23.46	34.89	15.09	7.43	11.82	3.66	0	0	0.39	2.00	0.65	0.60	0
24.18	33.34	12.99	8.44	13.91	1.23	1.31	1.19	1.84	0.89	0.67	0	0
24.99	32.68	13.35	7.67	16.04	1.42	0.95	0	0.78	1.26	0.87	0	0
29.03	34.47	13.15	6.10	12.78	1.79	0.78	1.02	0.87	0	0	0	0
21.99	33.52	14.77	11.31	11.99	2.49	0.5	1.04	2.23	0	0.16	0	0
23.64	28.74	16.52	6.63	20.14	1.10	0	1.05	0.10	0.66	1.42	0	0
23.25	30.39	14.82	11.44	15.45	0	0.23	0.28	2.95	0	0	1.16	0
24.37	39.23	10.88	6.70	13.46	1.45	0	0	2.62	0.51	0.79	0	0
24.60	32.75	14.70	8.38	10.93	2.70	2.02	0	1.75	1.72	0.25	0.20	0
24.50	37.74	11.01	7.68	12.62	2.75	0.39	0.96	1.12	0	0.26	0	0.98
29.07	22.81	19.18	5.32	16.58	0.75	3.66	1.13	1.37	0	0.13	0	0
25.45	31.50	13.01	8.99	11.95	4.09	1.91	0.19	2.63	0	0	0	0.27

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Distance to:	Suceava_ind
3.58501046	Moldova_Centre
3.81947640	Romania_Moldavia_North
4.09422764	Moldova_average
4.76983228	Bosniak
4.77035638	Serb_north
5.14492954	Romania_Maramures
5.17646598	Serb
5.20205729	Croat_South
5.29934902	Csángó
5.40724514	Serb_central
5.48116776	Székely
5.92366441	Hungarian_Transylvania
6.10670124	Moldova_North
6.22100474	Croat_West
6.23255967	Romania_Moldavia_South
6.67147660	Romania_Crisana
6.75032592	Croat
6.84951093	Croat_East
6.95175517	Romania_Transylvania
7.17390410	Romania_average
7.60310463	Serb_south
7.87501111	Romania_Banat
7.92287195	Hungarian_Alföld
8.07883036	Montenegrin
8.21976885	Romania_Oltenia

Distance to:	Suceava_ind
3.81947640	Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.14492954	Romania_Maramures
5.29473323	Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.86039321	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.92366441	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.23255967	Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.67147660	Romania_Crisana
6.95175517	Romania_Transilvania
7.28914261	Romania_average
7.87501111	Romania_Banat
8.21976885	Romania_Oltenia
8.84295200	Romania_Dobrogea
9.19150695	Romania_Muntenia
10.53074546	Romania_Ukrainian
10.63253498	Bulgarian
10.96137765	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.32552268	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
14.50407874	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
15.29965359	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.77134110	Ukrainian_Lviv
19.65971770	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
25.70926098	Crimean_Tatar
27.49941999	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.90552081	Romania_Roma
33.26298092	Romania_Jewish

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.5719% / 2.57193934 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
16.3 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.5 Ukrainian_Lviv
9.2 Romania_Roma

-Hungarian, Ukrainian, Roma
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.6613% / 3.66134787 | ADC: 0.25x RC
95.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.1 Crimean_Tatar

Distance to:	Suceava_ind
4.34985057	Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
4.41837074	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
4.42336976	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.47447204	Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
4.68420751	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
4.85058759	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
5.30751354	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.76232592	Romania_Moldavia_Csango
5.91212314	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.24161838	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.37834618	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
6.64902248	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.04634657	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.05691859	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.06432587	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.18924892	Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
7.24517081	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.34795890	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
7.36485574	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
7.41410143	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
7.91139052	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
8.09349121	Romania_Banat_Timis
8.15574031	Romania_Muntenia_Braila
8.15817994	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.23119675	Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Leto

I know you don't use any pops from outside of Romania and Moldova but here's what Vahaduo gives for that individual

Target: Suceava
Distance: 1.6554% / 1.65541153 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.3 Swiss_Italian
38.6 Romania_Crisana
15.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
3.9 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Suceava
Distance: 1.3390% / 1.33898740 | R4P
49.4 Swiss_Italian
29.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
4.3 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Suceava
Distance: 2.0292% / 2.02917592 | R3P
52.8 Swiss_Italian
34.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.4 Balkan_Gypsy

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Not suprising, that's why it picks Saxon internally. He doesn't have any non-Romanian recent ancestry.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Not suprising, that's why it picks Saxon internally. He doesn't have any non-Romanian recent ancestry.

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Distant Tzigane is not impossible judging by the oracles.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Leto

Distant Tzigane is not impossible judging by the oracles.

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Could be unless the South Asian is partially inflated by K13. But 3.66% is not that distant, but about 1/8 or one grandparent.

From Suceava (Bucovina German)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
29.67	34.95	12.32	6.28	9.59	3.54	0	0	1.22	0.73	0.94	0.77	0

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Compared to 1/2 Bucovina German, 1/2 Romanian from Vaslui

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
30.72	21.91	14.63	10.87	17.11	2.33	1.47	0.95	0	0	0	0	0

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Compared to Transylvanian Saxons

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
28.80	23.90	16.40	11.34	15.81	1.81	0.97	0.44	0	0.32	0.14	0.08	0
30.10	26.02	16.78	7.59	14.70	2.70	0	0.83	0	0.89	0	0	0.37
42.38	19.00	19.51	5.95	10.16	0.78	0.72	0	0	1.08	0.43	0	0
41.95	21.58	18.39	4.69	10.93	1.08	0.66	0	0	0.69	0	0	0
39.60	25.27	16.14	6.41	8.05	1.75	0.84	0.85	0.67	0.09	0	0	0.29
38.88	23.90	18.71	4.80	10.71	0.95	1.02	0.40	0	0.61	0	0	0

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Distance to:	Suceava_German
3.43135542	Hungarian_Northern
3.49779931	Croat_North
4.18818576	Slovak
4.20205902	Slovenian
4.21230341	Hungarian_Alföld
4.28530046	Hungarian
4.43222292	Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.22628931	Croat
5.31512935	Croat_East
6.00516444	Czech
6.19246316	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.58833059	Croat_West
7.74703814	Croat_South
8.08694627	Csángó
8.10266623	Moldova_North
8.16666395	Hungarian_Transylvania
8.33807532	Bosniak
8.69078823	Székely
8.77174441	South_Polish
8.80980136	Ukrainian_Lviv
8.91232293	Sorb_Lusatia
8.92856091	Moldova_Ukrainian
9.15767438	German_East
9.78986721	Serb_north
9.88564616	Austrian

Distance to:	Suceava_German
5.54571907	Romania_Ukrainian
6.19246316	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.09769103	Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.16666395	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.80980136	Ukrainian_Lviv
8.84807214	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.89175414	Romania_Moldova_Nord
11.90146630	Romania_Maramures
13.50459181	Romania_Crisana
13.65776702	Romania_Moldova_Sud
14.47138210	Romania_Transilvania
15.16186004	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.29429959	Romania_average
15.94006901	Romania_Banat
16.14508594	Romania_Oltenia
17.06990334	Romania_Dobrogea
17.56815870	Romania_Muntenia
18.95644481	Bulgarian
21.95442097	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
22.02435243	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
27.28920483	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
30.53819084	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.13022486	Crimean_Tatar
40.88916605	Romania_Jewish
41.50682715	Romania_Roma

Target: Suceava_German
Distance: 3.0380% / 3.03802103 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
29.2 Romania_Ukrainian
21.4 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
11.8 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

-Ukrainian_Lviv


Target: Suceava_German
Distance: 3.9016% / 3.90158602 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.8 Romania_Ukrainian
21.2 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

Distance to:	Suceava_German
5.54571907	Romania_Ukrainian
5.69649892	Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.59709155	Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
7.78053983	Romania_Moldavia_Csango
7.97536206	Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.80864348	Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
9.31438135	Romania_Crisana_Salaj
11.06542362	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
11.20807744	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
11.71909553	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
12.47109057	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
13.04442026	Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea
13.29372784	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
13.52926458	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
13.88063039	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
14.58001029	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
14.61289499	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
14.68428071	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
14.68618058	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
14.78557405	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
14.82520489	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
15.05332854	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
15.16186004	Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
15.47445960	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
15.57949614	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

From Chisinau (1/4 Soldanesti, 1/4 Donduseni, 2/4 Chisinau; match of my family through father's line on MyHeritage)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
22.18	30.33	16.26	10.30	16.92	0.63	0	0	2.35	0	0.87	0.15	0

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Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
3.18909078	Moldova_average
3.47946835	Moldova_Centre
3.98748041	Serb
4.18836484	Romania_Moldavia_North
4.26667318	Romania_Maramures
4.36885569	Serb_central
4.50647312	Serb_north
4.58800610	Serb_south
4.69056500	Romania_Moldavia_South
5.09435963	Romania_average
5.42928172	Romania_Transylvania
5.44866039	Bosniak
5.47275068	Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.50387136	Romania_Banat
5.89864391	Romania_Crisana
5.95979026	Moldova_South
6.26285877	Romania_Oltenia
6.26648227	Croat_South
6.28889497	Romania_Dobruja
6.36864978	Montenegrin
6.42655429	Romania_Wallachia
6.66265713	Romania_Muntenia
6.75431714	Moldova_North
7.17304677	Bosniak_Sandzak
7.26598927	Pomak_Bulgaria

Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
3.18909078	Moldova_average
3.47946835	Moldova_Centre
5.95979026	Moldova_South
6.75431714	Moldova_North
9.92781446	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
12.01179837	Moldova_Bulgarian
12.12948474	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.23532999	Moldova_Ukrainian
18.11270825	Ukrainian_Lviv
19.29153960	Ukrainian
24.87024326	Russian_Smolensk
26.08617067	Crimean_Tatar
27.58120918	Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
29.96136178	Moldova_Jewish
31.51492236	Russian_Pinega
34.27459263	Moldova_Roma

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 2.2187% / 2.21866312 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
44.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Ukrainian, GagauzTarget: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 2.7378% / 2.73780980 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.0 Moldova_average
4.7 Moldova_Jewish
2.3 Moldova_South

Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
2.24211953	Moldova_Cimislia
3.16779103	Moldova_Ungheni
3.69177464	Moldova_Singerei
4.36671501	Moldova_Chisinau
4.67107054	Moldova_Ialoveni
4.79380851	Moldova_Hincesti
4.88485414	Moldova_Soldanesti
5.00111987	Moldova_Balti
5.27403072	Moldova_Causeni
5.38410624	Moldova_Nisporeni
5.39206825	Moldova_Calarasi
5.58432628	Moldova_Straseni
6.34899205	Moldova_Telenesti
6.45872278	Moldova_Leova
6.45922596	Moldova_Orhei
6.59890900	Moldova_Falesti
6.99629902	Moldova_Briceni
7.16611471	Moldova_Ocnita
7.27365795	Moldova_Edinet
7.44417893	Moldova_Cahul
7.66672681	Moldova_StefanVoda
8.39990476	Moldova_AneniiNoi
8.64438546	Moldova_Glodeni
9.85523719	Moldova_Gagauzia
9.87235534	Moldova_Floresti

From Chisinau (1/4 Soldanesti, 1/4 Donduseni, 2/4 Chisinau; sibling of above)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
21.62	28.81	15.83	12.82	15.48	0.17	1.73	0.94	1.82	0	0.12	0.42	0.26

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Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
4.17049158	Moldova_average
4.27284449	Moldova_Centre
5.22851795	Romania_average
5.26765603	Romania_Maramures
5.27157472	Romania_Moldavia_South
5.36301221	Romania_Moldavia_North
5.44957797	Romania_Banat
5.50202690	Serb
5.71144465	Romania_Transylvania
5.95602216	Moldova_South
6.01404190	Serb_south
6.06036303	Serb_central
6.07304701	Romania_Dobruja
6.08050985	Serb_north
6.12281798	Romania_Oltenia
6.15245479	Romania_Wallachia
6.18348607	Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.34595147	Romania_Muntenia
6.35645341	Romania_Crisana
6.78496868	Montenegrin
6.90331804	Bosniak
6.90555573	Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.99516261	Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.06238628	Pomak_Bulgaria
7.17082283	Bulgaria_average

Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
4.17049158	Moldova_average
4.27284449	Moldova_Centre
5.95602216	Moldova_South
7.79540249	Moldova_North
8.85131629	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
10.83810869	Moldova_Bulgarian
13.87739529	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
18.43728017	Moldova_Ukrainian
18.94961477	Ukrainian_Lviv
20.30377797	Ukrainian
24.06261416	Crimean_Tatar
25.85902357	Russian_Smolensk
26.46788620	Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
29.87628658	Moldova_Jewish
31.70641260	Moldova_Roma
32.55001968	Russian_Pinega

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 2.0849% / 2.08489669 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.3 Moldova_North
37.9 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
4.0 Moldova_Roma
2.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Gagauz, Roma



Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.1431% / 3.14312820 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Moldova_average
27.1 Moldova_South
10.9 Moldova_Centre
7.0 Crimean_Tatar

-Tatar
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.5975% / 3.59751817 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.8 Moldova_Centre
32.7 Moldova_South
0.5 Moldova_average

Distance to:	Chisinau_ind
2.84460894	Moldova_Cimislia
2.94859288	Moldova_Ungheni
4.84724664	Moldova_Ialoveni
5.00914164	Moldova_Singerei
5.09883320	Moldova_Chisinau
5.24975238	Moldova_Calarasi
5.60489072	Moldova_Straseni
5.77055457	Moldova_Hincesti
5.95055460	Moldova_Orhei
6.10149162	Moldova_Telenesti
6.21745125	Moldova_Causeni
6.28522872	Moldova_Balti
6.76583328	Moldova_Nisporeni
7.13287460	Moldova_Cahul
7.20629586	Moldova_Soldanesti
7.33471199	Moldova_StefanVoda
7.70385618	Moldova_Leova
7.74812881	Moldova_Briceni
7.97287903	Moldova_Edinet
7.97521787	Moldova_Falesti
8.38520721	Moldova_Ocnita
8.45576135	Moldova_Glodeni
9.15389535	Moldova_Gagauzia
10.55532567	Moldova_AneniiNoi
10.59983962	Moldova_Bulgarian

Distance to: Bucovina_German
3.43135542 Hungarian_Northern
3.49779931 Croat_North
4.18818576 Slovak
4.20205902 Slovenian
4.21230341 Hungarian_Alföld
4.28530046 Hungarian
4.43222292 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.22628931 Croat
5.31512935 Croat_East
6.00516444 Czech
6.19246316 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.58833059 Croat_West
7.74703814 Croat_South
8.08694627 Csángó
8.10266623 Moldova_North
8.16666395 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.33807532 Bosniak
8.69078823 Székely
8.77174441 South_Polish
8.80980136 Ukrainian_Lviv

Target: Bucovina_German
Distance: 1.6729% / 1.67289608 | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.3 Slovak
4.7 Saudi
1.0 Ethiopian_Amhara

Target: Bucovina_German
Distance: 1.3520% / 1.35200568 | R3P
48.5 Swiss_French
42.9 Latvian
8.6 Saudi

From Neamt

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.61	25.21	15.18	11.46	16.78	1.92	0.23	0.34	2.29	0.97	0.88	0.12	0

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Compared to others from Neamt

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
21.38	27.17	14.71	13.65	16.38	2.64	0.06	1.68	1.96	0	0.39	0	0
26.34	27.91	12.93	10.38	15.58	2.13	0.49	0.77	2.12	0.75	0.60	0	0
23.95	24.80	18.46	11.96	15.86	1.51	0	0	1.28	0.66	1.02	0.50	0
23.47	28.61	16.83	11.01	13.76	0.42	2.35	0.55	1.81	0	0.61	0	0.58

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Distance to:	Neamt_ind
3.12443595	Romania_Transylvania
3.25989264	Romania_average
3.27013761	Romania_Moldavia_South
3.76848776	Montenegrin
3.77189607	Romania_Banat
3.77353945	Romania_Oltenia
4.01380119	Romania_Crisana
4.14004831	Romania_Wallachia
4.23447754	Romania_Dobruja
4.27132298	Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.46345158	Romania_Muntenia
4.60013043	Serb_south
4.64698827	Moldova_South
4.73024312	Bosniak_Sandzak
4.83818148	Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.86426767	Romania_Maramures
5.17422458	Bulgaria_average
5.38048325	Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.67120798	Serb
5.74853894	Serb_central
5.90475232	Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.04193678	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.12252399	Moldova_Centre
6.13911231	Moldova_average
6.15328368	Bulgaria_Southcentral

Distance to:	Neamt_ind
3.12443595	Romania_Transilvania
3.27013761	Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.31587093	Romania_average
3.77189607	Romania_Banat
3.77353945	Romania_Oltenia
4.01380119	Romania_Crisana
4.23447754	Romania_Dobrogea
4.46345158	Romania_Muntenia
4.86426767	Romania_Maramures
5.67688295	Bulgarian
6.04193678	Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.14872504	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.67271790	Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.83373474	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.97852995	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.14082600	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
14.09102196	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
14.67238904	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.48388194	Romania_Ukrainian
15.80320853	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.15871452	Ukrainian_Lviv
24.67546352	Crimean_Tatar
27.53738731	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
27.81680607	Romania_Jewish
32.00190151	Romania_Roma

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 1.8928% / 1.89275761 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.4 Bulgarian
41.0 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.6 Crimean_Tatar

-Bulgarian, Szekely
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.4885% / 2.48848827 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.3 Romania_Transilvania
7.1 Crimean_Tatar
2.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord

-Tatar
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.0604% / 3.06036752 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.1 Romania_average
40.3 Romania_Transilvania
9.6 Romania_Moldova_Csango

Distance to:	Neamt_ind
2.23850396	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
2.69887013	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.07174218	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.17154536	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
3.29771133	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.57839349	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.69303398	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.76797028	Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti
3.79860501	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.95158196	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
4.01947758	Romania_Banat_Timis
4.05813997	Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita
4.12282670	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
4.20412892	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
4.20512782	Romania_Muntenia_Braila
4.22440528	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
4.23193809	Romania_Oltenia_Olt
4.30305705	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.37573994	Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.39520193	Romania_Muntenia_Bucuresti
4.45244876	Romania_Muntenia_Ilfov
4.45911426	Romania_Muntenia_Dambovita
4.49266068	Romania_Oltenia_Valcea
4.53602249	Romania_Muntenia_Prahova
4.54636118	Romania_Oltenia_Gorj

From Bacau (lots of East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. admixture, but she isn't Csango/Roman-Catholic. Also confirmed the lack of shared Csango founder effect myself by checking her matches.)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.82	25.71	16.34	11.11	14.35	0.58	0.28	0	4.87	0.86	0.23	0.28	0.57

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Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
20.27	29.07	15.56	13.35	16.72	2.23	0	0.16	0.76	0.72	1.14	0	0
25.87	26.84	16.97	10.82	15.72	1.10	0.45	0.17	0.89	0	0.85	0	0.32
22.55	24.80	21.31	8.66	17.58	1.89	0	0	0.34	1.46	1.29	0.10	0
20.62	26.86	20.13	11.88	14.52	1.60	0.89	0	0.98	1.42	1.11	0	0
21.74	29.09	17.75	6.85	19.55	3.31	0	0.17	1.17	0.36	0	0	0
22.08	27.48	18.09	4.49	22.76	1.90	0.19	2.09	0.46	0	0.19	0.28	0
27.65	28.32	15.21	12.81	7.97	2.20	2.90	0	0.30	1.48	0	0	1.15
20.68	27.83	15.95	11.59	17.86	2.79	0	0.93	0	1.93	0.45	0	0
24.74	24.26	16.57	10.63	17.44	2.73	1.35	1.46	0	0.60	0.21	0	0
24.37	27.43	14.81	10.05	14.49	3.20	2.96	0.37	0.96	0.79	0.51	0	0.06
24.24	27.89	14.20	9.72	16.82	3.08	0	1.03	1.49	0.28	0.76	0	0.48
23.04	29.67	14.32	8.00	19.96	3.18	0	0.19	1.18	0	0.29	0	0.17
20.76	27.29	21.65	10.28	16.69	0.23	0	1.47	0.13	0.62	0.86	0	0

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Distance to:	Bacau_ind
5.14002918	Romania_Moldavia_South
5.14105048	Romania_Transylvania
5.19036608	Romania_Crisana
5.48986339	Romania_average
5.84294446	Montenegrin
5.86160388	Romania_Maramures
5.87369560	Romania_Banat
6.10040163	Romania_Oltenia
6.18854587	Serb
6.23611257	Székely
6.39366874	Serb_central
6.41315055	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.47079593	Moldova_average
6.52682158	Moldova_Centre
6.63006033	Serb_south
6.64151338	Romania_Dobruja
6.68394345	Romania_Wallachia
6.71359069	Bosniak_Sandzak
6.82904093	Moldova_South
6.90323113	Csángó
6.90827764	Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.95460279	Hungarian_Transylvania
7.03730062	Serb_north
7.04720512	Romania_Muntenia
7.32079914	Bulgaria_Northwestern

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
5.14002918	Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.14105048	Romania_Transilvania
5.19036608	Romania_Crisana
5.62722845	Romania_average
5.86160388	Romania_Maramures
5.87369560	Romania_Banat
6.10040163	Romania_Oltenia
6.27865898	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.41315055	Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.64151338	Romania_Dobrogea
6.89117552	Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.95460279	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.04720512	Romania_Muntenia
8.41121275	Bulgarian
11.33912695	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
11.79429099	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
14.29908738	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
14.92043900	Romania_Ukrainian
15.02693914	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.21154527	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
19.98937968	Ukrainian_Lviv
23.47873506	Crimean_Tatar
25.59562463	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.22246515	Romania_Jewish
32.84190920	Romania_Roma

Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 3.0576% / 3.05764821 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.4 Romania_Crisana
22.5 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
15.8 Romania_Transilvania
9.5 Crimean_Tatar
3.8 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
3.96986146	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
4.29016317	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
4.55342728	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.66861864	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.07574625	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.22107269	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.27274122	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.41562554	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.48774999	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.49123848	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
5.54332030	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
5.54699919	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
5.97003350	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.00642156	Romania_Oltenia_Gorj
6.15671991	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.21370260	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.23912654	Romania_Banat_Timis
6.26383269	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.28993641	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
6.36117914	Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.38249168	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
6.39830446	Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti
6.44234429	Romania_Oltenia_Olt
6.51275671	Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita
6.60365808	Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

Can my coordinates for any Romanian or Moldovan ethnicity(Ukrainian etc) other than hungarian? Is there anything similar in the thread?
Universe,28.69,39.52,11.43,3.62,13.02,2.30,0,0,0.4 8,0,0.23,0.72,0

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Universe

Can my coordinates for any Romanian or Moldovan ethnicity(Ukrainian etc) other than hungarian? Is there anything similar in the thread?
Universe,28.69,39.52,11.43,3.62,13.02,2.30,0,0,0.4 8,0,0.23,0.72,0

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If you count 5% as close then there are some.

Distance to:	Universe
5.17768288	Romania_Moldavia_64_Vaslui
5.20973128	Romania_Moldavia_17_Botosani
5.81080029	Moldova_72_Chisinau
5.86913111	Romania_Moldavia_16_Botosani
5.92648294	Romania_Moldavia_32_Suceava
6.11692733	Romania_Moldavia_28_Suceava
6.19428769	Moldova_81_Chisinau
6.38043886	Romania_Moldavia_34_Suceava
6.62499057	Moldova_20_Rezina
7.03076098	Romania_Moldavia_13_Botosani
7.57784930	Moldova_2_Ocnita
7.84355787	Moldova_17_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau
8.18548716	Romania_Moldavia_10_Botosani
8.47708676	Moldova_73_Chisinau
8.51350692	Romania_Moldavia_24_Suceava
8.72057911	Moldova_11_Balti
8.74379208	Moldova_70_Chisinau
8.77522649	Romania_Oltenia_6_Mehedinti
8.80747410	Moldova_10_Floresti_1/4Ukrainian
8.81017593	Moldova_71_Chisinau
8.87636187	Romania_Crisana_5_Salaj
8.92084637	Moldova_48_Balti
9.09645535	Moldova_78_Chisinau
9.13070096	Romania_Maramures_1_Maramures
9.16019105	Moldova_47_Balti

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

If you count 5% as close then there are some.

Distance to:	Universe
5.17768288	Romania_Moldavia_64_Vaslui
5.20973128	Romania_Moldavia_17_Botosani
5.81080029	Moldova_72_Chisinau
5.86913111	Romania_Moldavia_16_Botosani
5.92648294	Romania_Moldavia_32_Suceava
6.11692733	Romania_Moldavia_28_Suceava
6.19428769	Moldova_81_Chisinau
6.38043886	Romania_Moldavia_34_Suceava
6.62499057	Moldova_20_Rezina
7.03076098	Romania_Moldavia_13_Botosani
7.57784930	Moldova_2_Ocnita
7.84355787	Moldova_17_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau
8.18548716	Romania_Moldavia_10_Botosani
8.47708676	Moldova_73_Chisinau
8.51350692	Romania_Moldavia_24_Suceava
8.72057911	Moldova_11_Balti
8.74379208	Moldova_70_Chisinau
8.77522649	Romania_Oltenia_6_Mehedinti
8.80747410	Moldova_10_Floresti_1/4Ukrainian
8.81017593	Moldova_71_Chisinau
8.87636187	Romania_Crisana_5_Salaj
8.92084637	Moldova_48_Balti
9.09645535	Moldova_78_Chisinau
9.13070096	Romania_Maramures_1_Maramures
9.16019105	Moldova_47_Balti

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What is ethnicity of these people? Simply Romanian/Moldovan?

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

From Bacau (lots of East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. admixture, but she isn't Csango/Roman-Catholic. Also confirmed the lack of shared Csango founder effect myself by checking her matches.)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...omania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.82	25.71	16.34	11.11	14.35	0.58	0.28	0	4.87	0.86	0.23	0.28	0.57

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Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
20.27	29.07	15.56	13.35	16.72	2.23	0	0.16	0.76	0.72	1.14	0	0
25.87	26.84	16.97	10.82	15.72	1.10	0.45	0.17	0.89	0	0.85	0	0.32
22.55	24.80	21.31	8.66	17.58	1.89	0	0	0.34	1.46	1.29	0.10	0
20.62	26.86	20.13	11.88	14.52	1.60	0.89	0	0.98	1.42	1.11	0	0
21.74	29.09	17.75	6.85	19.55	3.31	0	0.17	1.17	0.36	0	0	0
22.08	27.48	18.09	4.49	22.76	1.90	0.19	2.09	0.46	0	0.19	0.28	0
27.65	28.32	15.21	12.81	7.97	2.20	2.90	0	0.30	1.48	0	0	1.15
20.68	27.83	15.95	11.59	17.86	2.79	0	0.93	0	1.93	0.45	0	0
24.74	24.26	16.57	10.63	17.44	2.73	1.35	1.46	0	0.60	0.21	0	0
24.37	27.43	14.81	10.05	14.49	3.20	2.96	0.37	0.96	0.79	0.51	0	0.06
24.24	27.89	14.20	9.72	16.82	3.08	0	1.03	1.49	0.28	0.76	0	0.48
23.04	29.67	14.32	8.00	19.96	3.18	0	0.19	1.18	0	0.29	0	0.17
20.76	27.29	21.65	10.28	16.69	0.23	0	1.47	0.13	0.62	0.86	0	0

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Distance to:	Bacau_ind
5.14002918	Romania_Moldavia_South
5.14105048	Romania_Transylvania
5.19036608	Romania_Crisana
5.48986339	Romania_average
5.84294446	Montenegrin
5.86160388	Romania_Maramures
5.87369560	Romania_Banat
6.10040163	Romania_Oltenia
6.18854587	Serb
6.23611257	Székely
6.39366874	Serb_central
6.41315055	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.47079593	Moldova_average
6.52682158	Moldova_Centre
6.63006033	Serb_south
6.64151338	Romania_Dobruja
6.68394345	Romania_Wallachia
6.71359069	Bosniak_Sandzak
6.82904093	Moldova_South
6.90323113	Csángó
6.90827764	Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.95460279	Hungarian_Transylvania
7.03730062	Serb_north
7.04720512	Romania_Muntenia
7.32079914	Bulgaria_Northwestern

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
5.14002918	Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.14105048	Romania_Transilvania
5.19036608	Romania_Crisana
5.62722845	Romania_average
5.86160388	Romania_Maramures
5.87369560	Romania_Banat
6.10040163	Romania_Oltenia
6.27865898	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.41315055	Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.64151338	Romania_Dobrogea
6.89117552	Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.95460279	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.04720512	Romania_Muntenia
8.41121275	Bulgarian
11.33912695	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
11.79429099	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
14.29908738	Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
14.92043900	Romania_Ukrainian
15.02693914	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.21154527	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
19.98937968	Ukrainian_Lviv
23.47873506	Crimean_Tatar
25.59562463	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.22246515	Romania_Jewish
32.84190920	Romania_Roma

Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 3.0576% / 3.05764821 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.4 Romania_Crisana
22.5 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
15.8 Romania_Transilvania
9.5 Crimean_Tatar
3.8 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
3.96986146	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
4.29016317	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
4.55342728	Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.66861864	Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.07574625	Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.22107269	Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.27274122	Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.41562554	Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.48774999	Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.49123848	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
5.54332030	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
5.54699919	Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
5.97003350	Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.00642156	Romania_Oltenia_Gorj
6.15671991	Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.21370260	Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.23912654	Romania_Banat_Timis
6.26383269	Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.28993641	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
6.36117914	Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.38249168	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
6.39830446	Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti
6.44234429	Romania_Oltenia_Olt
6.51275671	Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita
6.60365808	Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

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Maybe just low sNps coverage. Is 23andme raw data?

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Originally Posted by andre

Maybe just low sNps coverage. Is 23andme raw data?

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MyHeritage

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Originally Posted by Universe

What is ethnicity of these people? Simply Romanian/Moldovan?

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Yes, though very outlying/atypical compared to the average. Could easily pass genetically as culturally assimilated minorities.

Why Romanians & Moldovans score so much West Asian?

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Originally Posted by Roy

Why Romanians & Moldovans score so much West Asian?

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From ancient Steppe tribes probs, who are also responsible for East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. Crimean Tatars are probably similar to medieval Cumans, Pechenegs, Bulgars, etc.

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Name	N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
scy009_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG	32.25	38.12	14.64	6.06	4.22	1.86	0	0	0	1.35	0.18	0.02	1.30
scy010_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG_	30.49	32.12	12.24	20.62	2.17	0	0	0	0	1.04	0	1.33	0
scy011_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG	25.46	21.85	5.22	32.87	0	0	1.41	0	5.80	4.73	2.66	0	0
scy192_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	25.17	13.29	18.61	11.78	24.56	1.68	1.91	0	0.60	0	2.40	0	0
scy193_SG_Moldova_Scythian_o1_SG	11.12	33.32	0	15.33	0	17.57	5.75	0	0	1.13	4.29	5.39	6.10
scy197_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	19.25	15.80	28.22	3.76	22.72	7.40	0	0	2.85	0	0	0	0
scy300_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	25.15	5.55	24.79	9.86	24.18	6.31	0	2.61	0	1.53	0	0	0
scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	19.51	23.11	13.22	19.06	14.00	0	2.80	0	7.17	0.74	0.38	0	0
scy303_SG_Moldova_Scythian_o2_SG	48.47	28.96	5.57	0.67	8.90	0	3.75	0	0	1.77	1.37	0	0.55
scy304_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	40.23	7.82	20.61	5.99	11.80	0	1.05	3.13	0	7.45	0.95	0	0.97
scy305_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	34.92	7.94	20.66	19.70	11.46	1.06	2.43	0.64	0	0	0	0	1.19
scy311_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG	32.33	19.41	7.05	13.85	11.68	5.40	0	3.86	0.35	1.81	1.79	2.47	0
scy332_SG_Moldova_Scythian_o3_SG	16.88	0	0	0	0	0	4.56	28.54	34.79	0	15.22	0	0
cim357_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2810_ybp	34.86	30.98	0	12.78	3.11	0.35	5.29	0	6.22	3.80	0.91	0.93	0.77
cim358_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2840_ybp	19.16	23.28	0	25.22	4.64	0	5.93	4.30	11.56	4.23	1.68	0	0
cim359_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2873_ybp	19.80	20.03	0	14.58	0	0	6.16	6.70	26.37	5.64	0	0.70	0.03
MJ12_Moldova-Romania-UkraineThraco_Kimmerian_	17.31	16.47	24.79	14.47	21.96	1.38	0	0	1.28	1.76	0.58	0	0
Crimean_Tatar	13.17	20.04	7.55	16.36	8.88	1.83	3.23	10.25	16.40	1.28	0.47	0.27	0.21

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Originally Posted by Roy

Why Romanians & Moldovans score so much West Asian?

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I score around 10.6% West Asian, genetically I'm very similar to Romanians, at least on my father's side. But I'm not sure how the components are determined on K13 for example. Is the ,,West Asian'' component identical to like Iranians or Armenians for example? Because I doubt that 10-15% of the genetics of Romanians/Bulgarians is identical to West Asians, or...?

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Originally Posted by Chris596

I score around 10.6% West Asian, genetically I'm very similar to Romanians, at least on my father's side. But I'm not sure how the components are determined on K13 for example. Is the ,,West Asian'' component identical to like Iranians or Armenians for example? Because I doubt that 10-15% of the genetics of Romanians/Bulgarians is identical to West Asians, or...?

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Eurogenes West Asian peaks in Abkhasians, Caucasus people. Stears and me also score above 10%.