Looks normal. Probably has some tork ancestry (very common all over Iran). But certainly not the average for Shiraz, as you can see by the distances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
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Looks normal. Probably has some tork ancestry (very common all over Iran). But certainly not the average for Shiraz, as you can see by the distances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp
Maybe ask the person, idk. There were also Turkish-tribes in South of Iran who are mostly completely assimilated by now (except Qashqai). He has 3% East Eurasian could be 1/4 Azeri too or half. There are also full Azeris who are only around 36% Caucasus. A large percentage of Azerbaijanis doesn't have anything to do with Transcaucasus region. A common misconception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
Kurdish ancestry could be possible too.
Lots of possibilites.
Probably Anatolian ancestry, a substantial port if Azerbaijanis/ tribes in Iran are descending from Anatolian Turks. Probably the reason why the person is clustering with Kurds/Zazas: Big Iranian + visible Anatolian(Turk) influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
It's a lot for Iran but overall doesn't look damaged to me at all.
By the way, it would interesting to find some people from Fereydoonshahr. It's the place where Iranian Georgians live. They are completely Islamicized of course and probably mixed by now but still at least half Georgians half Persians must be common.
Christian Palestinian from Bethlehem
I suppose the Levant has remained nearly untouched by updates.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.88
2 Southwest_Asian 25.56
3 Atlantic_Med 15.27
4 Gedrosia 10.25
5 Northwest_African 2.69
6 East_African 1.66
7 North_European 1.14
8 South_Asian 0.45
9 Sub_Saharan 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.29
2 Syrians (Behar) 6.48
3 Druze (HGDP) 7
4 Jordanians (Behar) 8.16
5 Palestinian (HGDP) 9.58
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.82
7 Samaritians (Behar) 11.25
8 Cypriots (Behar) 11.9
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.04
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.12
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.13
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.54
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.88
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.99
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.9
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 17.93
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.94
18 Turks (Behar) 18.21
19 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.85
20 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Syrians (Behar) + 33.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3
2 52.6% Syrians (Behar) + 47.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.51
3 60.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 39.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.75
4 55.6% Druze (HGDP) + 44.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.26
5 56.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 43.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.34
6 64.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 35.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.4
7 78.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 21.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.49
8 66.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.6
9 81.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 18.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.63
10 61.6% Druze (HGDP) + 38.4% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 4.66
11 96.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 3.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 4.77
12 77.9% Syrians (Behar) + 22.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.83
13 66.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.4% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.94
14 64.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 35.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.95
15 69.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 30.6% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.96
16 81.5% Druze (HGDP) + 18.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.99
17 84.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 15.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.05
18 91% Lebanese (Behar) + 9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.07
19 81.1% Syrians (Behar) + 18.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.09
20 84.7% Syrians (Behar) + 15.3% Armenians (Behar) @ 5.11
Eurogenes K13:
1 Samaritan 2.81
Eurogenes K15:
1 Samaritan 4.15
Turk from Aydin Province:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._in_Turkey.svg
Gedrosian: 13.94
Siberian: 5.07
Northwest_African: 0.08
Southeast_Asian: 1.45
Atlantic_Med: 14.42
North_European: 11.89
South_Asian 1.78
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.46
East_Asian: 6.82
Caucasian: 33.78
South_African: 0.31
Distance to: Turk_Aydin2
2.59903828 Turk_Southwest
3.60469139 Turk_Northwest
4.32060181 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.05034652 Turk_Anatolia
5.12410968 Turk_Central_West
5.86046073 Yoruk
5.93600034 Turk_South
7.39530256 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.27718551 Turk_Central_East
9.39690907 Turk_Southeast
10.79013902 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.23288921 Azerbaijani
11.79612648 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.13571087 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.41991058 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
15.29336457 Greek_Crete
15.46394193 Turk_East
15.79849676 Turkmen_Iraq
16.19704294 Turkmen_Iran
16.30030368 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.76380029 Karachay
16.82151598 MD_Jewish
16.88617209 Italy_Apulia
17.03588859 Zaza
17.22959663 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Turk_Aydin2
Distance: 2.1681% / 2.16813511 | ADC: 0.5x
96.4 Turk_Southwest
2.4 Turk_Northwest
0.8 Burmanese
0.4 CHD30
Good point, i once read that Safevids settled a lot of Caucasians in Persia (Armenians/Georgians/Circissians) but i dont know whether they left genetic traces?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
They don't differ so much from Iranians genetically, in that regard a settlement from 16/17th century won't leave any traces. Settlements from Qajar and Pahlavi periods is a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
A few Georgians in Fereydoonshahr are said to remain to this day. You can even find signs in Georgian in that city.
They don't differ so much from Iranians genetically, in that regard a settlement from 16th century won't leave any traces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
Turk from Kirsehir + Kahranmaras:
Gedrosian: 17.36
Siberian: 5.16
Northwest_African: 1.57
Southeast_Asian: 1.68
Atlantic_Med: 12.38
North_European: 9.61
South_Asian 2.45
East_African 0.26
Southwest_Asian: 12.05
East_Asian: 3.35
Caucasian: 34.13
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: TurkKirsehirKahranmaras
4.75650081 Turk_South
5.30797513 Turk_Anatolia
5.33397600 Turk_Central_West
5.49085604 Turk_Southeast
5.92325924 Turk_Southwest
6.67808356 Turk_Central_East
6.88944120 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.13635761 Azerbaijani
7.16988842 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.81287399 Turk_Northwest
7.96488544 Yoruk
8.08009901 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.54712232 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.88804390 Turkmen_Iraq
11.27197853 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.45101602 Kurd_Sorani
12.46980754 Zaza
12.72876663 Turk_East
13.47755171 Iran_Khorasan
13.91181512 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.20567492 Turkmen_Iran
14.20784994 Iranian_Fars
14.43171507 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.62785357 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
15.00325298 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: TurkKirsehirKahranmaras
Distance: 1.3764% / 1.37637339 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Turk_Southeast
36.6 Turk_Southwest
2.4 Brahui
2.4 Turk_Northwest
1.2 Canarias
1.0 Cambodians
1.0 Parsi_India
Turk from Konya:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Turkey.svg.png
Gedrosian: 15.01
Siberian: 2.85
Northwest_African: 1.84
Southeast_Asian: 1.58
Atlantic_Med: 14.11
North_European: 8.23
South_Asian 2.20
East_African 1.81
Southwest_Asian: 12.31
East_Asian: 2.60
Caucasian: 37.46
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: TurkKonya
4.34470943 Turk_Central_West
4.57029540 Turk_Central_East
4.99919994 Turk_Anatolia
5.19537294 Turk_Southeast
5.46076002 Turk_South
6.43725097 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.45893954 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.18584720 Turk_Southwest
8.20436469 Azerbaijani
8.24502274 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.49881572 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.50241022 Turk_Northwest
9.97792063 Turk_East
10.72457925 Yoruk
10.74279759 Turkmen_Iraq
11.61136082 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.79810578 Nusayri_Turkey
12.08735289 Zaza
12.54521423 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.89141575 Kurd_Sorani
13.05718193 Greek_Cappadocia
13.40820644 Greek_Crete
14.20455913 Armenian_East
14.20765287 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.26227191 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: TurkKonya
Distance: 1.1855% / 1.18545836 | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 Turk_Central_East
34.4 Turk_Southeast
8.2 Morocco_Jews
3.8 Italy_Calabria
1.8 Turk_Central_West
1.4 Balkan_Gypsy
1.0 Cambodians
1.0 Somali
0.6 Sardinian
Trabzon Turk (Relative of mine from maternal side)
Gedrosia 13.54 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.95 Pct
North_European 4.06 Pct
South_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.63 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 59.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to:
4.60002174 Hemshin
4.89707055 Laz
5.02902575 Greek_Pontus
5.56700997 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.66118137 Georgian_Adjara
8.43453615 Georgian_Turkey
10.03840625 Turk_Ahiska
10.21098918 Armenian_East
10.21349597 Georgian_Imereti
10.25349696 Georgia_Jews
10.63910711 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.05616118 Armenian_West
12.00030416 Georgian_Gurian
12.26684148 Georgian_Mingrelian
14.57284804 Assyrian
14.62874567 Abkhazian
14.69902378 Turk_East
14.80086484 Greek_Cappadocia
14.99957333 Georgian_Svan
15.74016201 Druze
15.77645714 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.82803209 Iranian_Jews
16.53095883 Uzbekistan_Jews
17.21900113 Cypriots
17.41460881 Iraq_Jews
If he can be Turkish, you can be too because you guys both have completely assimilated North-West Asian background.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Bunalim's father's results (he is half Trabzonian, half white New Zealander)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunalim
Armenians (from Armenia)
Gedrosia 18.79 Pct
Siberian 0.55 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.38 Pct
North_European 6.83 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Armen
3.18636156 Armenian_East
3.93193337 Turk_East
4.76672844 Armenian_West
4.80170803 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.56143277 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.96421371 Assyrian
8.31822697 Zaza
8.38498658 Georgia_Jews
8.57417051 Azerbaijan_Jews
8.62446520 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Armen
Distance: 1.0407% / 1.04070380 | ADC: 0.25x
58.2 Armenian_East
19.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
2.6 Armenian_West
1.6 Pais_Vasco
Target: Armen
Distance: 1.6721% / 1.67206616 | ADC: 0.5x
40.8 Armenian_East
19.4 Turk_East
17.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.2 Armenian_West
7.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
* * *
Gedrosia 17.34 Pct
Siberian 0.55 Pct
Northwest_African 0.37 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.47 Pct
North_European 5.45 Pct
South_Asian 0.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.52 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.26 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Artur
1.91890594 Armenian_East
3.46992795 Armenian_West
5.49248578 Greek_Pontus
5.54551170 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.95298245 Turk_East
7.44468267 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.54578690 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.58592776 Hemshin
7.65693803 Turk_Ahiska
7.83827149 Georgia_Jews
Target: Artur
Distance: 0.8190% / 0.81898515 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 Armenian_East
15.2 Armenian_West
6.4 Greek_Pontus
4.2 Georgian_Adjara
1.6 Sardinian
Target: Artur
Distance: 1.3388% / 1.33877439 | ADC: 0.5x
75.6 Armenian_East
14.2 Armenian_West
6.2 Greek_Pontus
4.0 Greek_Cappadocia
It is really interesting how trabzon turks got completely assimilated without any turkic admixture. We have a government site which you can check your whole family tree since 1800s and all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village and I dont think it was really different before 1815. So it's really interesting how they have changed their identity, religion, language while marrying with each other and not intermarrying with turks. I really wonder how is that assimilation process happened. I couldn't find good information about that neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
It's interesting, yes. As an Orthodox Christian, I personally consider them ex-Orthodox (apostate). Their Islamization did not take place until after the 1400s or even the 1500s. Prior to that they had been Christian for nearly 1,000 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Genetically they appear to be a mix of Laz, Pontic Greek and Armenian.
Idk about you but we have here a lot of eastern blacksea turks(Giresun/Trabzon/Rize) and all of them describe themselves as Laz. I once spoke with Trabzonlu who told me that he has Pontus Greek ancestry, without reluctance which is absolutely right in my opinion. Turks also know that this area is full of Lazes but they don’t care about. So i dont understand why that is surprising for people that they show different results, they are still a part of Turkish people.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Yes, i have some pontic greek ancestors too that i didnt know till i have checked that government site and my maternal side still identfy as Turkish despite having some pontic greek ancestry and dna results. That things didnt change anything. And people here call eastern blacksea people as laz too but i thing they dont say it seriously, more like a joking way. It's just interesting to me how can a population change their indentity, language, religion without intermarrying back in the old days. Kurds still identify as kurds and laz people still identify as laz and most of them can still talk their language but trabzon turks' case is really interesting to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
What about the Meskhetians? See the first page of the thread. User Fiko0 is a Meskhetian from NE Turkey and he is virtually zero EE too.
No here they are serious about that. The people in Trabzon, regardless of beeing Laz, Turk or Pontic Greek, are very homogeneous genetically. In western parts are some villages with up to 8% mongoloid but generally they are pure Caucasians.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Yes trabzon is very homogenous genetically but if you look at populations there are hemsheni, laz, pontic greeks, turks, meskhetians etc. All of them are genetically native trabzonians but they identify as different groups. That's interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
To be honest, i don’t know much about them just that they were deported to central asia. Maybe during Ottoman/Safevid empire a group of Caucasians became Turkish. The question is why justva specific group and not hole caucasus. At least, there are not Ahiska(turkish for meskhetian) Turks which were mentioned in Ottoman archives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
they are interesting too. I think they are native to georgia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I think because there werent much migration. Look to Turks, that is very opposite, they are heterogenous. I think that is probably the main reason for their homogenous genetics of NE-Turkey. Lets forget the cities with high muhacir population, fir example when i research about the origin of the place names in Turkey, they mention different tribes of different origins. Some migrated from east to west, some intermarried with other ethnicities etc. I think this movements and mobility lacks in Trabzon.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Yes its probably about lack of migrations to that region. Trabzon is the last place that conquered by turkic groups (ottomans, karaman, aq qoyunlu etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
https://istanbultravelblog.com/wp-co...tantinople.jpg
This is the map of anatolia at 1453 and trabzon got conquered at 1461. I think at that time whole turkic migration to anatolia was over and after 1461 they didnt migrate to trabzon. But how trabzon turks got assimilated and learned the language. Like i said all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village, who came to that village and teach them that language, religion etc. I think sardinians are like that too, they dont have indo-european admixture but they speak an indo european language.
Yeah, but their cultural assimilation started over 2,000 years ago. Sardinian, albeit a Romance language, is drastically different from Italian and its dialects.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Turkic migration was not over, until to 19th century Turkmen tribes migrated, just an example: last eastern anatolian turkmens(nomads) migrated from Erzurum(sorry, nit Erzincan)to Kirikkale. At this time, the overwhelming majority of nomads were settled. We know that many eastern anatolian tribes fled between 15-17 th century to Iran, and we know there are tribes who came in 18th century to Turkey from Iran. Still in their folk poetry they say „we are descending from Nader Shah“.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Hey Bender, how common are settlements from Iran (Khorasan, Güney Azerbaycan) in Central Anatolia. I've now came across multiple random villages where it's said they came around 18th century from Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
I also know from some Azerbaijani tribes that got back into Anatolia.
Turk from Manisa:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Turkey.svg.png
Gedrosian: 16.10
Siberian: 7.90
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.81
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North_European: 10.62
South_Asian 1.43
East_African 0.51
Southwest_Asian: 11.47
East_Asian: 5.32
Caucasian: 33.55
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: Turk_Manisa2
4.93621312 Turk_Southwest
5.06771152 Turk_South
5.76314150 Turk_Anatolia
5.92339430 Yoruk
6.34626662 Turk_Central_West
6.40549764 Turk_Northwest
7.01720030 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.02495552 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.03092149 Turk_Southeast
8.24767846 Turk_Central_East
9.40621071 Azerbaijani
10.11135006 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.89760983 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.45080667 Turkmen_Iran
13.75092361 Turkmen_Iraq
13.96832488 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.15050176 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.79165305 Iran_Khorasan
14.80679911 Turk_East
15.15194707 Zaza
15.36876052 Kurd_Sorani
15.92629273 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.94634441 Turkmens
16.23701943 Talysh_Azerbaijan
16.65181071 Karachay
Target: Turk_Manisa2
Distance: 1.7019% / 1.70192369 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Turk_South
36.6 Turk_Southwest
5.6 Turk_Southeast
4.4 Turkmens
4.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Ket
1.0 Saudis
I know there is a Khalaj village in the hometown from my homeparents. And there is a district in Aksaray which was founded by Khalac tribes. The province Aksaray was also well known place for camel dealers from Chorasan. One of them were some Abdals in Kirsehir, the folk singers which i showed were of them. And they came „late“ to Anatolia, at the earliest 17/18th century. Afshars, the most common Central Anatolian tribe, also migrated from there. The migration from Azerbaijan mostly happened at the beginning of Turkic presence in West Asia, so i must look whether there were other movements. I think most of us came from Chorasan, that is most common. Maybe also interesting for you, many here are descendants of Bozulus Turkmens(Akkoyunlu) who lived in Eastern Anatolia/Azerbaijan. Another reason why E-Turkey, apart from Azerbaijani/Turkmen/Qarakalpak settlements are low Turkic influenced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp
Edit: the konya result, the second village is probably from chorasan turkmens founded. You can see, it is very common in Central Anatolia, but i am surprised why the person had low mongoloid. Ankara and the borderlands of Ankara/Konya have many Chorasan Turkmens, it would be cool find someone which is not mixed.
Iranian
photo
H-Z5870
J1b3
Gedrosia 26.46 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.38 Pct
North_European 5.93 Pct
South_Asian 4.62 Pct
East_African 0.98 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.84 Pct
East_Asian 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 38.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Nima
3.62845697 Lur_Iran
3.88942155 Iranian
4.41522366 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.76652914 Kurd_Sorani
4.79510167 Iranian_Fars
4.79767652 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.93040471 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.99615710 Zaza
6.06898674 Kurd_KAZ
6.93491889 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Nima
Distance: 1.2068% / 1.20680425 | ADC: 0.5x
52.0 Lur_Iran
19.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.8 Iran_Khorasan
9.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.2 Iranian_Fars
Target: Nima
Distance: 0.8780% / 0.87798462 | ADC: 0.25x
53.2 Lur_Iran
22.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.4 Iran_Khorasan
5.2 Azerbaijani
0.4 JPT30
More people from Trabzon
They say they are Trabzon Turks but their closest populations are Laz. Probably they are from east side of Trabzon.
Person 1:
Gedrosia 14.40 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.37 Pct
North_European 2.87 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.59 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 61.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
5.96489732 Laz
6.02834140 Hemshin
7.36005435 Georgian_Adjara
7.78183783 Greek_Pontus
7.99574262 Georgian_Turkey
8.16931454 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.81618052 Georgian_Imereti
11.49686479 Turk_Ahiska
11.55009524 Georgia_Jews
11.66467745 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.76304807 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.99750807 Georgian_Gurian
12.66655439 Armenian_East
13.32542682 Armenian_West
14.79494846 Georgian_Svan
15.23934054 Abkhazian
16.04611479 Assyrian
16.68452277 Iranian_Jews
17.14830604 Turk_East
17.66370290 Druze
17.82363880 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.89117939 Greek_Cappadocia
18.24706278 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.67847156 Iraq_Jews
19.99818242 Cypriots
Person 2:
Gedrosia 16.07 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.55 Pct
North_European 4.29 Pct
South_Asian 0.21 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.89 Pct
East_Asian 0.21 Pct
Caucasus 57.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
2.60965515 Laz
2.96030404 Hemshin
4.06354525 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.27388582 Greek_Pontus
5.42839755 Georgian_Adjara
6.57332488 Georgian_Turkey
7.88186526 Turk_Ahiska
8.72161109 Georgian_Imereti
9.03904309 Armenian_East
10.40757897 Armenian_West
10.67928368 Georgian_Gurian
10.94156296 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.03459107 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.39305929 Georgia_Jews
12.92876638 Abkhazian
13.04143780 Turk_East
13.49593272 Georgian_Svan
13.80111590 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.99445605 Greek_Cappadocia
14.60543392 Assyrian
16.16866723 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.79082488 Iranian_Jews
17.76003660 Druze
17.93433021 Cypriots
18.56646708 Zaza
Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?
Also, don't forget to click Single on Vahaduo.
https://i.imgur.com/51p0rvk.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I'd say these two can pass as typical Trabzonians.
They resemble more to Georgians than to Armenians, although ther is not that big difference. Sometimes you can see that someone is frome black sea area, sometimes there is no difference to Turks. You know hoe Erdogan looks, he is from Rize and Georgian descendant, he has a typical east black sea look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
First one has the highest Caucasian that i have seen in Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Erdogan? Really? I had no idea he was one of the assimilated. I thought he looked part Turanic or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
But that type of dress is not found in Turkey. "Cherkeska".Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat